The tale of the 500-x "Calibrah", they destroyed the US energy and "Stryker MSL"

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When you see with your own eyes a beautiful fairy tale like from Disney, sometimes it is even pleasant. But in modern realities for some reason, this phenomenon causes nothing but regret. If in the US some figures prefer to live according to Mikhail Zadornov (not to the financier), then this should probably be taken as a normal approach.





Full sadness looks fantastic on the heat and content of the story "Caliber" will bury the energy of America. The US Air Defense has nothing to protect its power plants from Russian cruise missiles. ” Although the publication of “Task and Purpose” (“Purpose and Task”) seems to be writing about the revival of the SHORAD system in the USA.

The idea itself is quite reasonable. The “goal and objective” concludes that the US Army, despite its complete superiority in the sky with any adversary, needs a short-range air defense system.

There is a certain reason for this, especially in the light of the development of the UAV and modern engineering. Syria has shown that if desired, not even the most advanced terrorist is capable of mowing up something flying, capable of transferring a certain amount of explosives to a given point.

We have already written about the presentation of the new air defense system based on the Stryker, a completely successful combat vehicle filled with Boeing.

It is difficult to say how it will be with combat lasers, but what is in the original version (30-mm cannon and rockets) is quite enough to look like Pantsir-1С.

How quickly Stryker will be able to stand up for the defense of the US Army’s near-boundary lines is a separate question. As well as the number, since Trump has already declared his readiness to finance the creation of 9 mobile divisions SHORAD for the United States. Military experts talk about the need to have at least 10 more times. 95 divisions in the US and 50 in Europe.

The mobile division is the Stryker 6. With the cost of one complex about 50 million dollars, the figure is breathtaking, even in the long-term program. 43,5 billion dollars is yes, delicious.

However, the appetites of the American military for the development of allocated funds - this is not our headache. They want to have - let them tense up.

But then fiction begins.

In order for the stingy uncle Scrooge (in the sense of Trump) to allocate such money to the military, you need what? That's right, the rationale. And then the Syrian and Afghan terrorists somehow do not look like a real threat on 43,5 billion, is it?

And then, oh happiness, turned up Russian "Caliber". Weapon, let's say, and accurate, and quite modern. And not bad already shown.

“The thing is that America doesn’t have enough air defense systems in the ground. If, in a hypothetical conflict, “Calibres” strike the territory of the United States, more precisely, power plants, then the infrastructure of the United States will be put out of action for a long time. So, for the destruction of the entire nuclear power industry of the United States will require 103 precise non-nuclear strike. And in order to plunge the entire territory of America into the darkness for many years, 500 − 700 cruise missiles will be needed ”.

Horror terrible, is not it? Speed ​​and inconspicuous, and most importantly - accurate "Calibers" are spread into dust (possibly radioactive) all US power plants. And He comes, His Majesty the Apocalypse.

For the sake of justice, I would like to remind the Americans a few things.

First, there are ground defense facilities in the USA. The 21 anti-aircraft missile division is part of the National Guard and the regular army. It's about 700 Avenger and the Patriot 480.

It’s a lot or a little - it’s not up to me to decide;

The destruction of atomic energy by caliber is something. But the idea itself is good. As a reason to cling to the budget.

I would like, however, to clarify what we will deliver these 500-700 "Caliber" in the United States?

No, I am not against the fact that “in the case of a hypothetical conflict,” we de-energize the United States. Without the use of ICBMs with nuclear warheads. And it is useful for ecology, and we will not violate contracts. Although, by and large, he is still nonsense.

The only question is: who and how will deliver these missiles at least 1000 km to the US borders? Themselves "Caliber", since we are talking about them, do not reach in any way. Well, 1500 km.

Fleet? Well, how would we still have 17 ships capable of carrying "Caliber". By the way, if we talk about "Tomahawks", the US Navy has 87 ships capable of carrying and launching them. This is so, for comparison.

Small rocket boats we delete. Atlantic after all. Diesel-electric submarines are also somewhat doubtful in such a raid.

There remain a number of ships of the 11356 frigate type, which we have three whole (24 missiles), the 22350 frigates, two of the first children of which are being tested (32 missiles), three Boreas can carry "Calibers" as non-main weapons (48 missiles ), the only "Ash" from the project 885 (32 rocket).

True, the use of submarines of both classes is more than doubtful. Not to build.

Anyway, does anyone see the 500 Calibers here? I see 136. And this is all that our fleet is capable of. Alas.

Well, someone will say that there is still a hypothetical "Caliber-A" of aviation use. Well, there are also his hypothetical carriers such as Su-35 and MiG-35, which, of course, just spit fly to America.

About aviation just do not say, because there are also hypothetical US Air Force, 1700 of which fighters will come out of their way just to not let anyone in if something happens. In addition to them, more than 700 F / A-18 of all modifications in the US Navy aviation. Plus aviation of the Marine Corps, but these are trifles.

Yes, the US also has a navy. Which is also unlikely to stand in the harbors in anticipation of the Russian squadron with the "Gauges", going to destroy US power plants.

Of course, if two and a half thousand aircraft remain at their aerodromes and aircraft carriers, the ships will not leave the harbors, and the calculations of the ground complexes will go together in a bout, then a really hypothetical threat is taking place.

But you want money ...

And another question: there is no exact data on how much the Armed Forces of Russia have “Calibrov”, but more than three thousand “tomahawks”, which the USA and allies have, are capable of doing much more work. Despite the fact that the "Caliber" is better than the "Ax". This is exactly the case when the quantity decides. And rockets, and their carriers.

Plus accommodation. Plus the number of mobile carriers, in other words, ships. Immediately it becomes clear and clear what is the weapon of attack, and what is deterrence and defense.

Of course, there is a direct meaning to talk about the superiority of Russian technology over a potential adversary. Compare. This inspires optimism and confidence in the future.

If a potential adversary bears frank nonsense like the one above, that’s his right. Especially if the real money behind the nonsense is worth the real “Strykers”.

"Caliber" - a great deterrent at our borders. As in the near and not so. But - on our lines. This has already been demonstrated more than once.

Yes, you can talk about a non-nuclear shield. But - later, when we have the number of "Caliber" will be at least comparable to the number of "Toporov." When it becomes not a single-piece tool, but really a system that can calm down any problem a thousand kilometers from the border.

But no one in Russia, being in his right mind, would seriously talk about striking "Gauges" in the United States. In contrast, as practice has shown, from the United States.

If only because we do not want war historically. Perhaps this truth should be repeated as often as possible. Suddenly comes.

But who in the USA needs all these calculations when it comes to sharing hypothetical billions into a reflection of a hypothetical threat?

Obviously, Mr. Trump is in control of the situation, once he decided to finance 9 from the Strykers 135 divisions ...
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  1. +20
    10 November 2017 07: 08
    in my opinion, it’s generally foolish to talk about a war with the United States (and even in the United States) using conventional (non-nuclear) weapons.
    1. +14
      10 November 2017 07: 28
      A p
      Quote: Dead Day
      in my opinion, it’s generally foolish to talk about a war with the United States (and even in the United States) using conventional (non-nuclear) weapons.

      In my opinion, it should be borne in mind that throughout its history, the United States fought on its territory only with the British, French and Indians, among themselves and that long ago. Therefore, even their ability to effectively resist even the professionals from the DRG can only guess and watch Hollywood action films. At least, they cannot even neutralize one arrow-loony before he kills a couple or two or three dozen of his fellow citizens.
      1. +5
        10 November 2017 07: 44
        Horror terrible, is not it? Speed ​​and inconspicuous, and most importantly - accurate "Calibers" are spread into dust (possibly radioactive) all US power plants. And He comes, His Majesty the Apocalypse.

        - until Hollywood makes a film about "something terrible and not visible above the Capitol" they will not give money for this haen. We will monitor (including SVR) directors and producers. They give the go-ahead for the procurement of weapons and military equipment
        1. +4
          10 November 2017 10: 56
          Quote: antivirus
          - until Hollywood makes a film about "something terrible and not visible above the Capitol" they will not give money for this haen. We will monitor (including SVR) directors and producers. They give the go-ahead for the procurement of weapons and military equipment


          So, first, interested companies will give money to Hollywood so that they make a film about "Caliber"

          Quote: kvs207
          If in the USA some figures prefer to live according to Mikhail Zadornov (not the financier),

          But Zadornov is right laughing


          Unfortunately, this is a story:


          Izvestia: satirist Mikhail Zadornov died

          The writer and satirist Mikhail Zadornov died in his 70th year of life. Actor Mikhail Zadornov for a long time suffered from cancer. An exacerbation of the disease of a well-known satirist occurred in the summer of 2016, as a result of which Zadornov canceled all his performances and tours.
          News
          10:48
      2. +18
        10 November 2017 16: 36
        In my opinion, it should be borne in mind that in its entire history the United States fought on its territory only with the British, French and Indians, among themselves and even a long time ago.
        One clarification, at the time of the war of independence, the USA itself did not exist yet, but there were the very British, French, Dutch and other European rabble who decided to move the western elite from the feeder.
        But the fact that they never knew how to fight is a fact. They even could not overcome Vietnam and Korea.
        But the question is different, how to transfer DRG across the ocean? Unless through Alaska.
        In general, the message of the article is not entirely clear. If there is still a war with the United States, then none of the generals of the Russian Federation will likely have the thought of delivering a precision strike with “calibers,” what is the point? They will cover the whole territory of the USA with the “Kuzkin’s mother” and remember as they knew. True, there is every chance of burying the planet, but the principle of "dying like that with music" will already work here. It’s the idea of ​​the Americans to fix it, to deliver a “global disarming strike”, our concept clearly spells out the use of nuclear weapons in the event of direct aggression against the Russian Federation.
        So it’s necessary to discuss not the “caliber” blow, but the theory of who will survive and what will happen after. As one famous character said, “tomorrow, those of you who remain alive will envy the dead” ...
        1. +1
          11 November 2017 19: 58
          DRG abandon, as Pasha Kolokolnikov said - from space, lingering ...
          )))))))))))))))))
      3. mvg
        +3
        12 November 2017 13: 18
        but nothing that they, adversaries, are constantly fighting .. honing their skills. improving communication, technology, interaction. that they have the whole world in allies ... etc.
        and we’ll cap them, kaaak throw it ...
        PS: And about the maniac. Let’s remember Beslan, when the bandit group left the “triple” circle of encirclement ... or Budenovsk .. or another hundred and fifty acts of terrorist acts .. Or Grozny, both Chechen wars, or Afghanistan, all 15 years. We’re cool, we’re fighting both on our own territory and on someone else’s, practically without loss or error.
        PPS: And you can add on the Arab-Israeli wars.
      4. 0
        27 January 2018 09: 46
        Well, there were attacks in our schools without small arms, in January only 3 happened. And a bunch of victims. And what, excuse me, are we better?
    2. +1
      10 November 2017 09: 07
      That you are in vain. This is capitalism. You need to own the means of production (General Danamiks or Kalashnikov) and create demand (Russian calibers or American missile defense), plus informational noise in the controlled media - and Money flows like a wide river into the right pockets. Moreover, with the support of the population, what we see here at VO.
      1. 0
        10 November 2017 21: 50
        here, rather, supply creates demand.
    3. +2
      10 November 2017 21: 48
      Well, only the USSR was hypothetically capable of this.
    4. 0
      15 November 2017 00: 08
      Quote: Dead Day
      in my opinion, it’s generally foolish to talk about a war with the United States (and even in the United States) using conventional (non-nuclear) weapons.

      You are very mistaken. Firstly, the whole of Alaska is shot through from Chukotka, from its coast, in fact with calibers. Secondly, the range of the X-101 / X-102 is up to 5500 km. And from Anadyr to Los Angeles (almost to the border with Mexico) - 5500 km. Thus, in the area of ​​shelling by our Kyrgyz Republic from Anadyr there is a large territory of the USA .... I don’t even know what they are going to do if we also leave the INF Treaty. In my opinion, they are just .... Moreover, Russia rivets in the region of 1/4 thousand of the Kyrgyz Republic a year now, in recent years ....
  2. +2
    10 November 2017 07: 30
    If in the USA some figures prefer to live according to Mikhail Zadornov (not the financier),

    But Zadornov is right laughing
    1. +5
      10 November 2017 08: 01
      No need to relax. And we, unfortunately, have all sorts of things. Any state, if it exists, must be treated with due attention. Stupid people cannot manage competitively capable states with powerful economies. Moreover, America. Which, while we were successfully trying to deal with our misunderstandings, brought up a generation in Ukraine that does not accept our values. Moreover, people of mature age who moved there in our troubled times accuse Russia of all mortal sins, I know from my own experience! And in order to turn our neighboring countries towards us, it’s not enough to water everyone and everything with dirt. And we are doing this for now. Especially under Zadorny on sofas.
      1. +2
        11 November 2017 10: 59
        ... urkyain from the time of Christ lives in robbery and theft - a wild field, well, everything according to Gogol is one unclean power ...
    2. 0
      10 November 2017 22: 04
      CLASSSS! I support.
  3. +5
    10 November 2017 07: 50
    Well, in my opinion, our government has never talked about some notorious war in foreign territories. In foreign territories, unlike the United States, Russia is only by invitation. And “calibers” is only a deterrent, not an aggression.
  4. +1
    10 November 2017 08: 24
    I don’t know what is good in the “striker”, but in this case, its mediocrity as a combat vehicle is not so critical, the “shell” in the air defense system and in the KAMAZ of a non-army type lives.

    And yes, divisions of short-range object anti-aircraft guns mean less weapons that are really dangerous for us.
  5. +2
    10 November 2017 08: 47
    The main plot of the article can be applied to all talk about armaments against the Russian threat.
    Ps. In the photo Tatarstan with uranium
    1. 0
      10 November 2017 10: 18
      At first I did not understand what kind of uranium in Tatarstan we are talking about)))
    2. 0
      10 November 2017 15: 59
      Quote: Tlauicol

      Ps. In the photo Tatarstan with uranium

      Who told you such nonsense ?!
      1. +2
        10 November 2017 16: 50
        Would be stupid, would not change the photo
        1. 0
          14 November 2017 14: 10
          Quote: Tlauicol
          Would be stupid, would not change the photo

          Apparently I read after that
          Sorry!
  6. +3
    10 November 2017 08: 59
    How to fly? Sell ​​Mexico 500 gauges to guard the wall on the northern border.
  7. 0
    10 November 2017 09: 32
    The main excuse! And what kind of person will it be, no one is interested in it, except for the Russians! Money for the states is “trash”, and there is always an excuse.
  8. +2
    10 November 2017 09: 38
    "Gauges" are intended primarily for solving tactical tasks. Fuck at old friends-allies and an old geyrop. An Asian tiger with a Mikado scare. To cut out the US energy, with all this, you just need to undermine the Yankees evenly over the territory in the ionosphere there are 12-18 charges of 1 megaton. Or 4 of 50 mg. And that's it. In theory, so to speak. In practice, we will only butt in third countries, by the little things.
    1. 0
      10 November 2017 10: 27
      Well, I think that even with 50 charges of 50 MT each one cannot escape if it is necessary to bring out all unprotected electronics in the USA, and it is problematic to deliver them (powerful carriers are needed). YES and the warheads themselves will be large = more vulnerable. I think it’s much better to use 50 warheads of a small power class (300-100ct) instead of 150 powerful warheads and detonate them just below them)))
      1. +1
        10 November 2017 14: 18
        Mmm, some "good military" already said that - in the past, in the USSR they had read the tectonics of the continent of North America and came to an "interesting conclusion", namely, "when nuclear strikes at critical points, it is highly likely to provoke tectonic changes leading to 100% destruction of everything living in the area. " feel The mainland plates themselves and, in general, all mmm are “somewhat tense”, and if the explosions provoke “slamming” and “crawling” of the mainland plates, even cockroaches will not remain from America. Just the movie "2012" is a terrible horror (scenes of the creep of California in Okiyan.) good
        1. +3
          10 November 2017 14: 33
          I have not heard of this, but something tells me that it is necessary to use the indecent megatonnage, and to conduct underground explosions. So I am very skeptical about this. I am much more seduced by ground-based explosions of warheads.
          Although the idea with the construction of 10-12 submarines of Project 955 converted for cr, is still interesting. Each of them will fit in a hundred, and if such pieces 6-7 will be in the sea. then it is possible to implement a non-nuclear strike on a thread of the presumptuous country.
  9. 0
    10 November 2017 10: 15
    The story “Caliber” will bury the energy of America, which is fantastic in its intensity and content, looks completely sad. US air defense has nothing to protect its power plants from Russian cruise missiles. " Although the publication “Task and Purpose” seems to be writing about the revival of the SHORAD system in the USA


    The most interesting thing is that 10 years ago this topic was already voiced at hearings in the US Congress. Cruise missiles, UAVs, though there were more threats to Russia, China and terrorists, delivery of installations for launching the Kyrgyz Republic and UAVs with chemical, bacteriological and nuclear weapons should have been carried out on ships of the merchant fleet. But then they did not give money, referring to the opinion of intelligence. The intelligence community confirmed that they did not believe such an attack was likely, and the hearing was postponed. Now, apparently, it's time to try again to get this money.
  10. +7
    10 November 2017 10: 36
    Well, if so:

    Yes, about 50, but under the Panamanian flag, somehow.
    1. +1
      10 November 2017 14: 34
      Well, it will be difficult to look after everyone and not accidentally send a container to the EU or the USA.
  11. +4
    10 November 2017 10: 48
    Quote: shinobi
    To cut out the energy of the United States, and with it completely, it will only be necessary to detonate the Yankees over the territory of the ionosphere evenly in the ionosphere 12-18 charges of 1 megaton. Or 4 of 50 mg. And that's it.

    What for? The very first launches of our ICBMs in the direction of the United States will cause a "return". Why "cut" the US energy when this attempt will lead to sawing out of Russia. Maybe it’s better to use YaBZ for purposes, rather than “wet” the US energy?
    1. 0
      11 November 2017 11: 06
      * ... they only beat a fool in the forehead, and then with a fright .. * - Marshal Rybalko ..
  12. +7
    10 November 2017 10: 52
    No special comments, but nonetheless:
    1. Regarding carriers, the author was very skeptical about the use of diesel-electric submarines, but it is worth recalling the campaign in the 60s during the Caribbean crisis of our diesels, and one eventually broke through and was on combat duty.
    2. The author is right, not knowing the exact number of missiles, he will not be able to reason correctly.
    3. Regarding the Patriots and other things ... in fact, they did not intercept even the outdated Skuds with a 100% guarantee, a very recent example of the Yemeni strike on the Saudis.
    4.Power plants themselves do not even need to be beaten, a couple of three power plants, a couple of three major hub distribution centers and a couple of three dams ...
    1. +2
      10 November 2017 14: 23
      I support, American exercises are recalled when the “crammed“ Admiral “playing” for the bad ones - he put all the tricked Aegis and AUG on his ears, and in the end he either drowned the fleet of “good” ones or broke through and “destroyed” the protected targets! good Apparently this was the reason why the movie “raise the re-microscope” was later conceived, only in reality when the Admiral tried to make the “bad” “replay, but to sit on a leash” so that he would be guaranteed to lose - he sent Command to the rectal and conceived “good” victory points "(for proper reporting).
      1. 0
        10 November 2017 23: 25
        It was the case, the maneuvers of the "Millenium Challenge - 2002", but not "stubborn", but the retired general lieutenant of the Marine Corps Paul Van Riper. Destroyed 2/3 of the US squadron with a "mosquito fleet" of small missile ships, patrol boats and civilian trawlers, using deliberately archaic tricks like refusing radio communications.

        But it must be borne in mind that

        one boat breaking through required 10 boats serving as cannon fodder


        и

        During the Millennium Challenge exercises, the US Navy gave General Van Riper an unforgivable head start - time to deploy his forces.


        while

        It is impossible to imagine anything like this in reality, all the events in Iraq and Libya speak exactly the opposite.


        https://topwar.ru/15137-posledniy-boy-generala-ra
        ypera.html
    2. 0
      11 November 2017 11: 09
      .. Hurricane * Katrina * what a racket he did in his time in mattress .., and looting including ..
    3. 0
      12 November 2017 09: 10
      Imagine running through the corridors in the analytical department of the US Department of Defense after reading only 4 points, and in fact they are 10 times more.
  13. +1
    10 November 2017 11: 16
    US Army, despite complete superiority in the sky with any enemy. with the Papuans yes
  14. +3
    10 November 2017 11: 25
    They threw everything on knocking out budget money. You always hear from them that their army is the most. But as soon as you need to knock money into the budget, the army instantly becomes the most shabby in the world. They know how to instantly mimic.
  15. +5
    10 November 2017 11: 36
    Zadornov died today: (It seems to me that "living according to Zadornov" in an article is somehow not appropriate.
    1. +1
      10 November 2017 15: 05
      A man dies, but his ideas remain. If they are tenacious, Macsism for example, then they will remain for centuries.
      1. 0
        14 November 2017 16: 25
        “If there are 38 snipers, then each sniper has a target, the target moves, and he moves his eyes, constantly ...” - there were more abruptly Zadornova!
  16. +2
    10 November 2017 12: 08
    "The only question is: who and how will deliver these missiles at least 1000 km to the US borders?"
    No problem. Club-K is not news. Of course, at the time of its announcement, it was a 300 km range, but now we understand that the “Caliber” is 2500 km. This is if Caliber (which in one 40-foot container will include 2 pieces). But Onyx and X-101/102 will enter there. I strongly doubt that there are no options for launching them from TPK.
    Why build missile cruisers when you can (remembering our and German experience of raiders of the 19th and 20th centuries) buy an average container ship, install the necessary equipment and containers with the necessary contents and put them along both coasts of the United States. They do not have geography, but a fairy tale (from the point of view of Shoigu). Open both from the west and from the east. Warships are in sight, and hundreds of container ships are dangling back and forth. Well, some float under the flags of Panama or Liberia, and so what? You can hide a lot even in standby mode. And in the threatened period there will be a little more. Understand try how many of them roam there. Even now.
    1. +1
      10 November 2017 14: 26
      Yes, to hell with the hell out of the sea - and they can track it down (well, you won’t sail anywhere), it’s much easier to bring these “containers” to the ports of Cuba, Venezuyuly, Nicaragua (where we’ll sort of stop the construction of the canal. " good laughing
      And go to the Americans to find out where we have the rockets, and where is the toilet paper. lol
    2. 0
      11 November 2017 11: 15
      ... you would think that Canada has good air defense .., there is not measured Svidomo - go and have used it upstroke ..- will fly over it ..
  17. +3
    10 November 2017 12: 39
    Why bring calibers overseas? (To America 8000 km in a straight line) when around us there are a lot of American bases.
  18. +1
    10 November 2017 12: 41
    Quote: Andrey VOV
    even the obsolete Scuds,

    no need to mix. Scud is a ballistic missile, winged caliber.
    1. +1
      1 March 2018 20: 54
      So he wrote about that, that Patriot couldn’t even beat all the Skuds, let alone speak about the Kyrgyz Republic, and even supersonic ones like Caliber.
  19. +5
    10 November 2017 13: 09
    Why all grabbed onto these calibers is incomprehensible. This is not a first strike weapon. In any case, for a nuclear power. To launch them first is to give the enemy a good head start in an hour or two. In response, the ICBMs will fly immediately. So launching them without ICBMs is pointless.
    They will have to finish what remains, in conditions of a completely different technical support.
    I mean, they no longer work after exposure to EMR nuclear weapons on gps and glonass systems. Under such conditions and in conditions of heavy dusting and distortion of the relief pattern, the accuracy of cruise missiles will drop. Consequently, the use of Raman weapons in a non-nuclear version can be forgotten.
    As well as the estimated estimated number of missiles to destroy enemy targets.
    1. 0
      11 November 2017 11: 17
      ... the funny thing is - our submarines surfaced at the Statue of Liberty ...
    2. 0
      11 November 2017 17: 44
      "Axes" as well as "Caliber" is exactly the weapon of the first strike, point.
      Why?
      - Yes, because it is unlike ICBMs, it is a conventional weapon.
      - In contrast to the ICBM launch, it is not detected (detected) in any way by modern reconnaissance means designed to fix the torch of an intercontinental missile.
      - Handicap will begin when devices with the function of following the terrain begin to break at positions not covered by the local [and already brought to combat readiness] missile defense, but it will be too late. That’s what the Tomahawk was for.

      And now the “partners” have been shown that we have the same.
      Hence the panic and nervousness)))
      1. 0
        13 November 2017 00: 59
        Well, torches there also give decent boosters. Not like the ICBM of course, but satellite intelligence will definitely notice, especially the mass launch. Satellites launches of the Grad are easily fixed, but here a rocket weighing a ton ...
        And to overcome hundreds of kilometers after the border and really did not light up on radars only a few missiles, and not hundreds of pieces. Well, they are just clearly visible in flight visually.
  20. +1
    10 November 2017 13: 29
    The only question is: who and how will deliver these missiles at least 1000 km to the US borders? Themselves "Caliber", since we are talking about them, do not reach in any way. Well, 1500 km.

    Especially for the author:
    "Club-K is a Russian container missile system, placed in a standard 20- and 40-foot sea container. Designed to destroy surface and ground targets. The complex can be equipped with coastlines, ships of various classes, railway and automobile platforms. It is a modification of the missile system "Caliber".
    For the first time, a valid prototype (in 20- and 40-foot versions) was demonstrated as part of the IMDS-2011. Tests of the complex were held on August 22, 2012.
    The complex can be applied from ground launch positions, sea, railway and automotive platforms. Anti-ship missiles (3М-54КЭ, 3М-54КЭ1, X-35UE) and missiles for ground targets (3М-14КЭ, X-35ЕЭ) can be used.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doiDQ1VxIdM И киношку посмотреть можно.

    And why run for 1000 km, if you can shoot right in the port of San Francisco.
    And you can in New York.
  21. +14
    10 November 2017 13: 39
    after reading most of the comments, it becomes a pity for the author - for whom he tried, wrote an article? right there you have to start with educational program in general, from the ABC
  22. +1
    10 November 2017 13: 41
    In addition to the Caliber, we also have the X-101 rocket and its carriers: 16-Tu-160 and 6-8-Tu-95MSM, and this is another 256 missiles in one salvo.
  23. +4
    10 November 2017 13: 48
    Stop raving about calibers - no one will give such a command. Why beat calibers "on their own"?
  24. +1
    10 November 2017 14: 09
    Caliber is a purely tactical weapon, according to bearded men it is popular for amusement, and even then if they are static and do not expect a surprise. And the effectiveness of the use of calibers against the "normal" enemy with modern air defense systems is in great doubt.
    1. +3
      10 November 2017 15: 34
      Yes, that's just the “Americans” slammed the first strike “Caliber” and scared even more barmaley. And I would also like to know about the "normal" modern Western air defense capable of effectively combating them (in the sense of price-quality), something I have not read about such yet.
      1. 0
        10 November 2017 16: 29
        Huh. there, in Syria, they covered an air base with axes and even C400 could not do anything.
        1. +1
          10 November 2017 18: 39
          To be precise, no one was going to do anything there, the C 400 was deliberately not involved, because this did not concern our base, but after this blow, priorities were set and this did not happen again.
      2. 0
        10 November 2017 21: 14
        It seems that the caliber is not endowed with any unique properties of overcoming air defense, but it’s better to keep silent about the price of the caliber.
        1. +1
          11 November 2017 14: 32
          Well, there is the only unique property (like axes) to fly low and far. I think this is enough, especially when you don’t know where they are shooting from.
  25. +2
    10 November 2017 14: 18
    comrade writer, go get something stronger than motherwort.
    yes there probably wrote the same amateur as you for the sake of the public.
    let's discuss the arrival of foreign tourists with alpha centaurs.
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  27. 0
    10 November 2017 16: 04
    Quote: antivirus
    Horror terrible, is not it? Speed ​​and inconspicuous, and most importantly - accurate "Calibers" are spread into dust (possibly radioactive) all US power plants. And He comes, His Majesty the Apocalypse.

    - until Hollywood makes a film about "something terrible and not visible above the Capitol" they will not give money for this haen. We will monitor (including SVR) directors and producers. They give the go-ahead for the procurement of weapons and military equipment

    I don’t understand why there is still no film about Russian hackers and hybrid journalists? Which affect the presidential election in the United States. Nobody gives money for such nonsense?
  28. +5
    10 November 2017 16: 47
    Quote: NordOst16
    Huh. there, in Syria, they covered an air base with axes and even C400 could not do anything.

    The S400 is a complex of object cover and protects the bases of the Russian Federation, and not the entire territory of Syria. Nobody attacked the bases of the Russian Federation (Tartus and Khmeimim), because no one shot down axes (probably). Americans even kindly warned the Russian Federation about the blow.
  29. 0
    10 November 2017 19: 41
    There are a lot of beeches, it makes little sense. What is the article about? Where are the findings?
  30. +1
    10 November 2017 20: 51
    An experiment conducted in Moscow about 6 years ago showed the possibility of incapacitating a city’s power system by destroying one single transformer substation. And then there were power system outages in half of Canada and the western United States. Maybe the Americans themselves conducted checks, or maybe it happened so. And there is also a way to create the Apocalypse by undermining by sabotage forces the pumps of the water supply system, or of the sewage system. ! And that’s all! "- as they say. Americans simply do not know how to live in the conditions in which half of Russians live.
  31. +9
    10 November 2017 22: 02
    [quote = Mih1974] Mmm, some "good military" have already said that - at one time in the USSR they had read the tectonics of the continent of North America and came to the "interesting conclusion", namely, "when delivering nuclear strikes to critical points, it is highly likely to provoke tectonic changes leading to to 100% destruction of all life in this territory. " feel The mainland plates themselves and, in general, all mmm are “somewhat tense”, and if the explosions provoke “slamming” and “crawling” of the mainland plates, even cockroaches will not remain from America. Just the movie "2012" is a terrible horror (scenes of the creep of California in Okiyan.) good[/ Quote]
    And the "good military" once told me that they counted the count and wept. Not only will gigatons be needed to initiate tectonic changes, but megatons, but the most “pleasant” thing about this is that no one knows what will happen in other regions of the planet. They’ll shandarahte on tectonics in America, catastrophic earthquakes will begin at them, and at the same time part of the territory of the USSR, Leningrad or Pskov region will go under water, or the same will start somewhere else, Kamchatka will go under water or something else.

    Disasters can end this action in the Caucasus, and even where HZ. Because the process NOT ADJUSTABLE and interconnected on a planetary scale. This cannot happen only in America. After that, in principle, all work on tectonic weapons was curtailed (in the mid-70s)

    [quote = NordOst16] Well, I think that even with 50 charges of 50Mt can not get off if you need to remove all unprotected electronics in the USA, and it is problematic to deliver them (powerful carriers are needed). YES and the warheads themselves will be large = more vulnerable. I think it’s much better to use 50 warheads of a small power class (300-100ct) instead of 150 powerful warheads and detonate them just below them))) [/ quote]
    First you need to create them. And then see if they can somehow convey to the goal

    [quote = NordOst16] Although the idea of ​​building 10-12 submarines of Project 955 converted for cr, is still interesting. Each of them will fit in a hundred and if 6-7 of these will be in the sea. then you can implement a non-nuclear strike on a thread of the presumptuous country. [/ quote]
    We would have completed five mortgages with ballistic missiles, and you are already dreaming about a dozen cruise missiles

    [quote = Andrey VOV] 1. Regarding the carriers, the author was very skeptical about the use of diesel-electric submarines, but it is worth remembering the campaign in the 60s during the Caribbean crisis of our diesel engines, and one eventually broke through and was on alert.

    And rightly so, that is skeptical. Modern boats have a TTX lower than those who then went to Cuba. In addition, the number of "Caliber" from 4 to 6. That is, in order to deliver there 500 missiles will need from 80 to 125 boats? Do we have that amount? As far as I remember from the memoirs of the participants - NEVER BROKEN

    [quote = Andrey VOV] 3. Regarding the Patriots and other things ... in general, they did not intercept even the outdated Skuds with a 100% guarantee, a very recent example of the Yemenis strike on the Saudis. [/ quote]
    And you know the air defense system, which intercepts from 100%. And what, the last shelling - the Saudis did not intercept? And God, stop trumping events of 75 years ago. Those "Patriots" have long been gone

    [quote = Andrey VOV] 4.Power plants themselves do not need to be beaten, a couple of three power plants, a couple of large hub distribution centers and a couple of three dams ... [/ quote]
    I think that this is absolutely utter stupidity. A blow to US infrastructure will entail a similar blow to us.

    [quote = boriz] "The only question is: who and how will deliver these missiles at least 1000 km to the US borders?"
    No problem. "Club-K" is not news .. [/ quote]
    For interest, go to the manufacturer’s website and see how many such container systems have been made. You will be pleasantly surprised. ZERO WHOLE AND MUCH TEN. No one wants to buy them for one trivial reason. A civilian vessel, sailing not under the flag of her navy, but under a civilian and all the more armed, will always be considered PIRATE. What do pirate ships do, I think, is not worth reminding? In addition, everyone understands that it’s enough to fire at least once, and others will sink such ships

    [quote = boriz] Of course, at the time of its announcement, it was a 300 km range, but now we understand that the “Caliber” is 2500 km. [/ quote]
    What caliber? The one who was shot by land? And are you going to shoot them from a distance of 1000 km from the coast? Two immodest questions:
    1. Where do they go
    2. And the Americans have no fleet as a fact? And there is no air radar control? Or do you think that a rocket that will “saw” to the shore for more than an hour and will remain invisible?

    [quote = boriz] But Onyx and X-101/102 will enter there. I strongly doubt that there are no options for starting them from TPK .. [/ quote]
    And what, “Onyx” is also already a range of 2500 km? Or is it four to five times less? And I want to upset you TPK X-101 and X-102 do not. As there is no launch accelerator, like rockets that are launched from ships or land. So alas

    [quote = boriz] Why build missile cruisers when you can (remembering our and German experience of raiders of the 19th and 20th centuries) buy an average container ship, install the necessary equipment and containers with the necessary contents and put them along both coasts of the USA. They do not have geography, but a fairy tale (from the point of view of Shoigu). Open both from the west and from the east. Warships are in sight, and hundreds of container ships are dangling back and forth. Well, some float under the flags of Panama or Liberia, and so what? You can hide a lot even in standby mode. And in the threatened period there will be a little more. Understand try how many of them roam there. Even now. [/ Quote]
    It must be understood that such a device in this complex, as a radar, you will not use and will shoot so by eye? In no case will you pick up the radar from the container. Well, “Dumb Americans”, they will never distinguish the spectrum of military radar from civilian. Yes?

    [quote = Mih1974] Yes, to hell with the hell out of the sea - and they can track it down (well, you won’t sail anywhere), it’s much easier to bring these “containers” to the ports of Cuba, Venezuyuly, Nicaragua (where we’ll sort of stop the construction of the channel "[/ quote ]
    Just ask the Cubans and the rest first if they want our missiles. And for a change, check out some of the mapping resources. From Nicaragua to the coast of the southern United States (Texas) about 1900 km. Only one god knows where the rocket will go. And from Venezuela to the same point about 3000 km. If it hits the target, it is exclusively at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico. The only place is Cuba. But even then, to the south of Florida - 2 hundred kilometers. But to the south of Texas - about 1200 km. How many hours they will go to the goal I hope you will calculate.
    1. 0
      10 November 2017 23: 33
      Solely for the sake of such comments, I read a discussion of articles! It is a pity that I can not put more than one plus!
    2. +2
      11 November 2017 01: 19
      Damn, well you can’t do that! People tried, how many ways were suggested, to drive our beloved partners to where Makar did not chase the calves, or maybe even further, for the very Mozhai.! So much was high strategy and cunning tactics!
      But then you appeared. and they spoiled everything with their stupid irrefutable calculations and facts. They put everything on the shelves, and proved that 2x2 will still be 4, not 5. And all the brilliant plans of the Macedonian. Napoleons. and other Kutuzov. go down the drain.
      Well, you can’t do that! Next time, be careful with your facts. and do not completely destroy the legitimate right of Internet strategic geniuses to even get even with our sworn "friends" in the end.
      And then, after all, many people come here to read comments and express their thoughts! Even some people read this article in passing. Comments are much more interesting!
      And it will be like in "Tape Ru", when immediately after the appearance of the most topical comments, a couple of hours after the article appears, the inscription appears on the site- "Comments are closed, after the expiration of the relevance period" They often have it so that it’s not for them, then they immediately-to the fingernail.
      Do not bring the Military Review under such villainy, and do not stop people from communicating to us their just methods of destroying the most democratic and most terrorist country in the world.
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  33. +2
    10 November 2017 23: 55
    it’s interesting, but if they (mattresses) wrote that we don’t have that many calibers and there’s simply nothing to deliver them to us, and we also don’t have much to shoot them with three thousand axes (by the way, not s-300, 400, 500 shoot them down, and not with a missile defense system that closes the great state of Moscow and everything, in fact), what would it be?
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  37. +1
    11 November 2017 09: 16
    And so I think our nuclear weapons have long been in the United States.
  38. 0
    11 November 2017 10: 47
    Quote: Dead Day
    in my opinion, it’s generally foolish to talk about a war with the United States (and even in the United States) using conventional (non-nuclear) weapons.

    ... stupidity is not this .. Stupidity when the same Satanovsky imposingly discusses events in 1917 and later .. when everything is chewed and studied .. Then there was no connection with the telegraph and communication ... This is in war, where the battle territory is limited you can get by the signal and light signals .. Hindsight is all much better ..
  39. 0
    11 November 2017 10: 56
    Money is everything! The whole history of the US military-industrial complex convincingly shows this, and Roman Skomorokhov unobtrusively reminds of this. But the US Congress and all their “true” mass media don’t give a damn about it, since we are talking about such denyushki.
  40. 0
    11 November 2017 11: 20
    Quote: tecnik
    Stop raving about calibers - no one will give such a command. Why beat calibers "on their own"?

    ... do you know a proverb? .. * beat your own, so that others are afraid * *
  41. +4
    11 November 2017 12: 22
    Quote: myobius59
    But then you appeared. and they spoiled everything with their stupid irrefutable calculations, and the facts

    Dear comrade! Well, what if posts like
    Quote: Vitaly Andreevich Rezvan
    And so I think our nuclear weapons have long been in the United States.
    ???? Confirm this nonsense? Well, the author does not know (but apparently does not know) that nuclear munitions undergo regular scheduled maintenance. And what "long" can mean that they are no longer operational?

    Or read about how the calibers will hit the United States from a distance of 1000-1500 km? These are those calibers in which the guidance system is based on comparing an electronic map of the terrain with the terrain over which the rocket flies. And the first correction zone is at a not very large distance from the launch point, so that the accumulated ANN error does not lead the missile beyond this correction zone. And we don’t care. The main thing is to write what will be launched from such a great distance. And what are these writers doing with permission here, on VO. They urgently need to go to Stockholm to receive the Nobel Prize for creating an electronic map of the water surface. No, they don’t go, but write that it would be nice to shoot at America from Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba. Without thinking, where at the same time rockets will hit and whether at all. The fact that in a couple of hours of flight they can be shot down several tens of times I don’t mention.

    I understand, I want us to seem like the coolest. But everything needs to know the measure and distinguish between reality and fiction. Especially on a resource called MILITARY REVIEW. It is VO, not OBS (ONE BABA SAID)
    1. 0
      11 November 2017 22: 29
      This is understandable, but after all, NOT ALL specialists like you. After all, many people don’t even imagine what it takes for a cruise missile to hit the target. I, too, only in general terms. Therefore, there are comments about which you write. It's just that people really feel insulted over our last decades. For all the bullying. to which the country has been subjected. And now the matter has not moved much. We basically justify ourselves and express our "concern" by not responding to spitting and slapping. It’s just that our strength is still not enough, we are only at the beginning of the path to technological and weapons parity with our “partners”. .Let not even parity, but to the necessary minimum. Strong, really. painfully, we lagged behind in many areas. And we are certainly not a trace of bullying. And tear the vest on the chest too early. Now is not the 41st. when more than one bomb fell on the Urals. Now, after the start of the conflict, we WILL ALREADY NOT have time to produce anything else, not planes. not rockets, not ammunition. I even doubt that our "servants" will be able to arm the population. They will not dare. And the appearance of "calibers", and especially their use, greatly raised the ego of many. People believed in his omnipotence and all-destructiveness, without even delving into his performance characteristics. You can understand them, right?
    2. -1
      12 November 2017 02: 41
      Em. Caliber can fly quietly on the GLONAS coordinates.
      Why would she compare a map for navigation?
  42. 0
    11 November 2017 13: 12
    Are we so pathetic that only in a nuclear war we see a way out of this state? (((
  43. 0
    12 November 2017 02: 39
    Fleet? Well, how would we still have 17 ships capable of carrying "Caliber". By the way, if we talk about "Tomahawks", the US Navy has 87 ships capable of carrying and launching them. This is so, for comparison.

    Tomahawk will not fight against Caliber. Comparing them is beyond stupidity.
    Other forces will fight against Tomahawk.
    Other forces will fight against Caliber.
  44. 0
    12 November 2017 09: 53
    Quote: Dead Day
    in my opinion, it’s generally foolish to talk about a war with the United States (and even in the United States) using conventional (non-nuclear) weapons.

    Even with special warheads in a big trouble, no one will wait for several hours until a subsonic missile reaches its targets. I think the key objects of the power system will be destroyed in 30-40 minutes - their coordinates are already in the warhead of ICBMs. hi
  45. 0
    12 November 2017 10: 26
    Maybe this caliber plan will be realized sometime, but at the moment only Russian missiles with nuclear warheads are capable of causing complete damage to the United States - but there will be a catastrophe on both sides.
  46. +1
    12 November 2017 13: 14
    Quote: ihappy
    Fleet? Well, how would we still have 17 ships capable of carrying "Caliber". By the way, if we talk about "Tomahawks", the US Navy has 87 ships capable of carrying and launching them. This is so, for comparison.

    Tomahawk will not fight against Caliber. Comparing them is beyond stupidity.
    Other forces will fight against Tomahawk.
    Other forces will fight against Caliber.

    It is a question, comrade is not that the “Caliber” will fight against the “Ax” or vice versa. We are talking about the carriers of this weapon. 17 for us versus 87 for them. Not to mention the fact that almost every of our carriers loses in the number of launched cruise missiles

    Quote: fa2998
    Quote: Dead Day
    in my opinion, it’s generally foolish to talk about a war with the United States (and even in the United States) using conventional (non-nuclear) weapons.

    Even with special warheads in a big trouble, no one will wait for several hours until a subsonic missile reaches its targets. I think the key objects of the power system will be destroyed in 30-40 minutes - their coordinates are already in the warhead of ICBMs. hi

    You are absolutely right. Unfortunately, I downloaded it, but on external drives I can’t find material from the network where this option is being considered. The author very well, based on completely open sources, described the objectives on the territory of each of the parties. The material contained a large number of illustrative material related to the use of nuclear weapons. As illustrations were scans from the "Simulator of the Third World War" or a similar resource.
    In particular with regard to the United States, the following goals were announced
    • 9 million-plus cities using from 6 to 12 BB depending on capacity (for example 100 ct - 12 units, and 300 ct - 6 units)
    • 28 large cities and industrial centers of 3-6 BB
    25 power plants 1BB each
    • 22 large transport nodes of 1-2 BB
    • 60 military facilities with 1 BB each
    • 6 BMBs at 1 BB
    • 15 VVB on 1 BB

    Total 165 goals and from 266 to 426 warheads. After such a blow, you can forget about a country that can then continue the war. As you can see, power plants are among the priority goals

    Quote: ihappy
    Em. Caliber can fly quietly on the GLONAS coordinates.
    Why would she compare a map for navigation?

    Yeah. And will you compare GLONASS coordinates with something? Or do you think that an autonomous guidance system leads a rocket from a flashlight? And not on the reference points?
  47. +1
    12 November 2017 15: 31
    Quote: myobius59
    You can understand them, right?

    Of course. And therefore, as much as possible, those who are at least a little bit of a topic and try to convey, tell, sometimes add a fly in the ointment in a barrel of honey of euphoria, so that people have at least an understanding of the real, and not capricious mood. Worst of all, sometimes those who have been on the resource for a long time have repeated the fuss, have already read, and more than once the comments, but they continue to fool with the stubborn ones. This is the worst of it. I somehow wrote in one of the topics that there are two categories that cause the greatest harm. The first - those who write that everything is lost with us, "they remove the gypsum, the client leaves that we are cured polymers", and the second category - those who, when necessary and no, shout that we have everything or almost everything "does not has analogues in the world, "that the adversary is completely ... that everything’s destroyed and that he’s not capable of anything. What is worse at the same time - I don’t know, but the last one will say so, gives a deceptive feeling of our omnipotence and the emergence of hat-moods
    1. 0
      16 November 2017 09: 20
      I completely agree with you. Fools and all-scooters - really tired. I want real objectivity.
      More precisely - real objectivity is now simply necessary for us.
  48. 0
    13 November 2017 00: 41
    So, to destroy the entire nuclear power industry of the United States will require 103 accurate non-nuclear strikes. And for many years to plunge the entire territory of America into darkness, it will take 500-700 cruise missiles. "
    We’ll throw ourselves together on the missing missiles with the whole world and plunge them into darkness.
  49. 0
    13 November 2017 18: 54
    The author is a clear amateur.
    The United States flew into space 9 years later than Gagarin, but lied and they still say that they even went to the moon ... They still, after more than half a century, fly into space on Russian rockets, still not having reliable and efficient means of delivering man into space, and suddenly their nonsense about their unsinkable aircraft carriers suddenly became the absolute truth.
    For whom did this become absolute truth? For ordinary comrades who have neither kind nor honor, and who can only bark like dogs, whom Uncle Sam will show ...
  50. +2
    14 November 2017 09: 33
    I think that if the author, i.e., Roman Skomorokhov, mentioned who the author of the article about 500’s “calibers” that would bury America, there wasn’t such a lively polemic in the discussions. As they say, “the chest just opened”, the author of the article, Konstantin Dushenov and she was posted on the Military Industrial Courier. I don’t know who how, but personally I relate to the “works” of K. Dushenov about the invincibility and magnificence of Russian weapons, well, about how the second-grader’s tales about the power of his ten-class brother, like “he’ll come and show you all”. I’m not that we have bad weapons, but he painfully enthusiastically describes all those who read Dushenov’s articles, he knows that this is not his first article about the omnipotence and omnipotent capabilities of our weapons. Well, what to take from a man who, at the time and in prison, sat behind the front against the authorities, and then he let go of his beard and hit such terry patriotism that sometimes it takes the creep that we are strong and dexterous, from his words. And if you look at the situation on the other hand, our sworn “friend” McCain comes to Congress, brings an article by Dushenov, where he convincingly writes how America’s 500 KR is dusted and says, “gentlemen of Congress, you see that did these damned Russians come up with? We need to give more money to the Pentagon’s budget, otherwise we will get kirdyk! ” By the way, the Pentagon recently approved a new budget and it is equal to 700 billion dollars. Is it because of such articles, such, so to say, “observers,” that the Pentagon’s budget was increased, eh?
  51. 0
    14 November 2017 11: 04
    Quote: Captain45
    And if you look at the situation from the other side, our sworn “friend” McCain comes to Congress, brings Dushenov’s article, where he convincingly describes how only 500 Russian Federation Kyrgyz Republic are smashing America into dust and says, “Gentlemen Congressmen, you see that came up with these damned Russians? We need to give more money to the Pentagon budget, otherwise we'll be screwed!" By the way, the new Pentagon budget was recently approved and it is equal to 700 billion dollars. Isn’t it because of such articles, such, so to speak, “observers”, that the Pentagon’s budget was increased, huh?

    It is quite possible that this, or approximately this, is what is happening. Where do you think all this talk in the same American media about Russia’s violation of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty comes from? Yes, from about the same publications. When, already choking with delight, they begin to draw the radius of destruction of the missiles that are on the Iskander launchers. Choking with joy they write about 2,5 thousand km. And then someone like McCain comes with these materials and says: “LOOK - YOU CAN’T TRUST THE RUSSIANS, THEY VIOLATE...”
  52. 0
    14 November 2017 13: 22
    As many wars have shown, victory is achieved by the infantry. No amount of missiles will be enough to dig the infantry out of the ground. A soldier with a weapon and at least some support is capable of defeating any equipment.
  53. 0
    14 November 2017 20: 52
    The article is, of course, a good, correct article, about the fact that Russia has a shortage of ships to deliver Calibers, but for some reason Roman forgot about containerized CALIBERS, which any dry cargo ship can deliver to the shores of America, well, a lot of them, if we don’t consider those containers that are already in warehouses in various parts of America. Fiction you say?? maybe, maybe not. But we were already talking about Arsenal Ships. so as the proverb says - Not all containers are safe for sex)))
  54. 0
    14 November 2017 21: 53
    Quote: Forever so
    The article is, of course, a good, correct article, about the fact that Russia has a shortage of ships to deliver Calibers, but for some reason Roman forgot about containerized CALIBERS, which any dry cargo ship can deliver to the shores of America, well, a lot of them, if we don’t consider those containers that are already in warehouses in various parts of America. Fiction you say?? maybe, maybe not. But we were already talking about Arsenal Ships. so as the proverb says - Not all containers are safe for sex)))

    Why write about something that doesn’t exist? Look on the manufacturers' website to see how many of these systems were produced and who bought them. For both positions - ZERO. Since everyone understands perfectly well that a ship sailing under the flag of a civilian flag, not its own, is essentially a pirate ship. Not to mention the fact that for some reason everyone forgets that in addition to missiles there should also be a military-grade radar that can be detected. So, what is next? In fact, the container system should be used only as a carrier of anti-ship versions, and not at all 3M14 class missiles, which need to be launched at a fairly short distance from the coast (due to their guidance system)
  55. 0
    15 November 2017 00: 35
    Quote: Andrey123
    Maybe this caliber plan will be realized sometime, but at the moment only Russian missiles with nuclear warheads are capable of causing complete damage to the United States - but there will be a catastrophe on both sides.

    ////////////////////////////////////////////////
    There are publicly available ideas for contactless neutralization of any explosive. This is due to the use of a spin-oriented field, which can change the strength of gravity.
  56. 0
    16 November 2017 09: 04
    Stryker MSL is a system designed to provide air defense, mechanized formations of the US Armed Forces (heavy mechanized brigades equipped with Abrams MBTs and Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and medium mechanized brigades with Stryker armored personnel carriers), when conducting combat operations in theaters located outside the territory USA.
    This is clearly visible from its design and preliminary performance characteristics. There is nothing more to rant about here.

    Our closest analogues of this mobile air defense system are the Strela-10 air defense system, created on the basis of the MT-LB multi-purpose tracked transporter or on the basis of the BRDM-2.
    Let me remind you that the latest modification of the Strela-10 air defense system has a radar.
    You can also add our Osa and Tor air defense systems as analogues.
  57. 0
    16 November 2017 17: 10
    Here are some bazaars about calibers, tamahawks, and other deadly crap. .but no one has denied that thermonuclear land mines were not laid by Khrushchev on the advice of SAKHAROV. So the Yankees should scratch their turnips before moving from babble to action.
  58. +1
    16 November 2017 21: 01
    Quote: NicolasFrench
    Here are some bazaars about calibers, tamahawks, and other deadly crap. .but no one has denied that thermonuclear land mines were not laid by Khrushchev on the advice of SAKHAROV. So the Yankees should scratch their turnips before moving from babble to action.

    Talk about thermonuclear landmines planted by Khrushchev is pure babble. In the past, only someone who believed that they had made a thermonuclear charge and that was all could write this. It will be good in 10 years, and in 30. And the fact that regulations are regularly carried out on these ammunition to replace certain components, the author of this idea apparently did not know and did not guess
  59. 0
    16 November 2017 21: 28
    The author of this article, apparently a great professional in missile weapons, is as narrow-minded as the opponents whom he looked for, looked for, looked for, but couldn’t find...
  60. 0
    18 November 2017 21: 52
    I would like, however, to clarify what we will deliver these 500-700 "Caliber" in the United States?


    Hypothetically?
    Well, we have three 941 Akula submarines. If you cut out all 20 R-39 launchers from them and replace them with VPU for the "Caliber", then, I think, about two hundred missiles will fit in there :)
  61. 0
    18 November 2017 22: 07
    Quote: abc_alex
    I would like, however, to clarify what we will deliver these 500-700 "Caliber" in the United States?


    Hypothetically?
    Well, we have three 941 Akula submarines. If you cut out all 20 R-39 launchers from them and replace them with VPU for the "Caliber", then, I think, about two hundred missiles will fit in there :)

    A little less, I think a hundred and a half. But the condition of two of the three boats is unknown. They've been in shambles for a long time now. The third, although a chassis, is used as an experimental one. Then we will have to make a new experimental boat. Of what? From the old 667BDR?
  62. 0
    31 August 2018 06: 55
    A non-nuclear war with the United States, on its territory? A sedative in the studio. Border clashes, or there in third world countries. Maximum in Europe, and even that is doubtful.