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Ukrainian battalion unveiled plans to create Novorossia and seize Kiev

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The commander of the Donbass battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Vyacheslav Vlasenko, stated that the militias in 2014 did not intend to limit themselves to the proclamation of Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (DNR and LNR), but wanted to create the state of New Russia from eight regions of Ukraine. He said this in an interview with the portal "Apostrof".


According to Vlasenko, the new state should have stretched from Odessa to Kharkiv region, occupying the entire south-east of present-day Ukraine.

Ukrainian battalion unveiled plans to create Novorossia and seize Kiev


The capital of New Russia was supposed to be in Kharkov. But this was not allowed. Although in those areas there was a long preparation, they were imported weapon, "titushki", was conducted psychological and ideological preparation for the seizure of these areas
- noted the battalion commander.

He added that at the second stage, the militia intended to force the Dnieper and seize Kiev.

We, with our weak army - scattered, lightly guided - managed to stop it
- said Vlasenko.

In June, the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said that the project to create Novorossia was buried thanks to the Ukrainian army.

Very well restored, born to the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not give any opportunity, no hope [to the Donbas militia] for any progress on the further territory of Ukraine
- he said, transfers "Lenta.ru"
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  1. Primoos
    Primoos 8 November 2017 18: 15 New
    22
    They wanted to create and will still create on the ruins of an absurd Ukraine. As it will be called, the tenth case, but there will be uncomfortable for banderlogs.
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 8 November 2017 18: 24 New
      18
      In June, the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said that the project to create Novorossia was buried thanks to the Ukrainian army.

      New Russia was buried by the Kremlin. And it is obvious that they are satisfied there that Porosenko took the dumb "laurels" of the undertaker from them ...
      1. 210ox
        210ox 8 November 2017 18: 41 New
        19
        He was right. There was such a plan. It is a pity that did not take place. And it is a pity not for the plan itself, but for those people who received hope, then deceived, and then found themselves in the dungeons of the SBU.
        Quote: Separ DNR
        In June, the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said that the project to create Novorossia was buried thanks to the Ukrainian army.

        New Russia was buried by the Kremlin. And it is obvious that they are satisfied there that Porosenko took the dumb "laurels" of the undertaker from them ...
        1. izya top
          izya top 8 November 2017 18: 48 New
          19
          Quote: 210ox
          And it’s a pity not for the plan itself, but for those people who received hope, then deceived

          do not distort No. Even before the referendum in Donetsk and Lugansk, the GDP said to them-no need, early. But they did not give a damn about the opinion of our Supreme and put him before the fact.
          Quote: Separ DNR
          New Russia was buried by the Kremlin.

          and this, instead of gratitude, that the GDP closed its eyes to Russian volunteers, albeit against the laws of the Russian Federation negative
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 8 November 2017 19: 06 New
            11
            Quote: izya top
            GDP before the referendum in Donetsk and Lugansk told them-no, early

            It's too early, early, wait, take your time, more, more ... Oh late! Did not have time...
            It is NOT NECESSARY, EARLY, it was said about the item in the newsletter on joining Russia.
            So, you distort ...
            1. Ulan
              Ulan 8 November 2017 19: 14 New
              10
              I think he wanted all of Ukraine to become friendly to Russia.
              I hope he understood how wrong he was. Ukraine, which has in its composition Galicia, will never be friendly to Russia.
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 19: 50 New
                +8
                Quote: Ulan
                I think he wanted

                who is he?? Vova ??? if about him, then it’s rather the other way around ... he knew that the overwhelming majority of the Khataskrayniks and therefore did not send troops there !!! note lope rats dristanulo with LDNR in hohland !!! negative negative negative negative glad that they spread rot in Ukraine !!! wassat wassat wassat
                1. Air defense SSH
                  Air defense SSH 9 November 2017 14: 41 New
                  +1
                  Krajin cannot be attached with the help of our army, although technically this can be done quickly, but Ukrainians will always whine that Russia owes them something again and the Bandera infection will be saved .... Only if they are crushed by current citizens of Ukraine, including DLNR, and then they themselves will be asked to Russia, only then can they be accepted.
              2. Nick
                Nick 9 November 2017 06: 34 New
                0
                Quote: Ulan
                Ukraine, which has in its composition Galicia, will never be friendly to Russia.

                Well, Galicia is not the whole of Ukraine.
            2. izya top
              izya top 10 November 2017 21: 07 New
              0
              Quote: Separ DNR
              It is NOT NECESSARY, EARLY, it was said about the item in the newsletter on joining Russia.

              shave yes Are you dill? Do you all have to?
      2. neland
        neland 8 November 2017 18: 42 New
        12
        From the 90s to 2014, Russia lost all matches with a crushing score in the "big" politics. Finally, a draw in Syria and Ukraine. New Russia will not be a project, but a reality when we lead the bill, but for now we are waiting ...
        1. neland
          neland 8 November 2017 18: 45 New
          +4
          We are waiting for when most people from Ukraine will be for friendly relations with Russia, and not with the West.
          1. iouris
            iouris 8 November 2017 19: 18 New
            +8
            Wait. Most decide nowhere and nothing.
          2. zivXP
            zivXP 8 November 2017 20: 18 New
            +2
            Do not sprout with moss.
        2. bistrov.
          bistrov. 8 November 2017 18: 52 New
          +8
          Quote: neland
          From the 90s to 2014, Russia lost all matches with a crushing score

          Well, not all, do not exaggerate. In the Caucasus, the United States failed. They got a good kick there, in 2008 the second, a good kick, in Georgia, then they kicked them out of Kyrgyzstan, in the “Ukraine”, and, in fact, they didn’t succeed. Although they took control of the Ukrainian government, they don’t know how to get out without loss.
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 8 November 2017 19: 14 New
            +7
            Quote: bistrov.
            Now they don’t know how to get out without loss.

            Wow ... We have a similar problem. We also want to BUT ENTRY into Ukraine. With all the power we can collect. And also without losses ...
            1. SPACE
              SPACE 8 November 2017 20: 06 New
              +6
              Quote: Separ DNR
              We also want to BUT ENTER Ukraine. With all the power we can collect. And also without losses ...

              Every day in Ukraine there is more per potential soldier of the DPR army, the more you find yourself there, the more fighters you have and the fewer foes, then you can and without loss.
              1. Weyland
                Weyland 9 November 2017 00: 57 New
                +3
                Quote: SPACE
                Every day in Ukraine, there is one more potential soldier of the DPR army

                Not very happy with this pace. 100 thousandth army will be typed in 274 years!
            2. Glory to Berkut
              Glory to Berkut 9 November 2017 07: 20 New
              0
              Quote: Separ DNR

              With all the power we can collect.

              As competent people say, spies roll in on trifles ... laughing
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 8 November 2017 19: 31 New
            +3
            Quote: bistrov.
            Now they don’t know how to get out without loss.


            And the Yankees did not and do not consider themselves obligated to anyone, they are "exceptional" and their functions include organizing a kipzhge, conducting from afar and putting a winner's laurel wreath on his head. So that with respect to the former Ukraine, they will come out beautiful and happy. What about the natives? - let the loser cry, America has nothing to do with it.
        3. Berkut24
          Berkut24 8 November 2017 19: 05 New
          +6
          From the 90s to 2014, Russia lost all matches with a crushing score in the "big" politics.

          In fact, not a single match has yet ended. Russia has not lost anything yet. The Americans failed to celebrate the victory after the E2-E4 move.
      3. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 19: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: Separ DNR
        In June, the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said that the project to create Novorossia was buried thanks to the Ukrainian army.

        New Russia was buried by the Kremlin. And it is obvious that they are satisfied there that Porosenko took the dumb "laurels" of the undertaker from them ...

        I wonder if hundreds of thousands of people would have died in the implementation of your plan of New Russia, so that you would speak here ???? !!!!
      4. dvina71
        dvina71 8 November 2017 23: 16 New
        +5
        And when at least someone from the Kremlin announced plans to create New Russia? I don’t even believe that you forgot or don’t know how it really was. I remind you .. they talked about New Russia exclusively in Ukraine. As the answer to the Maidan. We’ve even gathered some kind of conference .. Got it? Or screwed up your tags? And how after that serious analysts in the Kremlin could decide on such a project if nobody needed it in Ukraine ..? How many people came out under Russian flags in the eastern regions, in Odessa? In addition to Kharkov ... it was about dozens ... a maximum of two three hundred. And if you do not need New Russia, then the Kremlin is even more so.
        And honestly .. this is so in Ukrainian, look for the guilty around.
        1. Ural resident
          Ural resident 9 November 2017 09: 33 New
          0
          Putin announced at the time that this land was formerly called Novorossia - and said that he would not offend the defenders. From the lips of a leader of this level, this was perceived as a new ideological attitude.
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 9 November 2017 09: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: Resident of the Urals
            Putin announced at the time that this land was formerly called Novorossia - and said that he would not offend the defenders. From the lips of a leader of this level, this was perceived as a new ideological attitude.

            Yeah .. well, I understand .. on a bench in the park .. you can interpret the intentions of the drunken neighbor .. But not an official of this level. Putin just announced the historical name of that territory and all-round assistance was provided to the defenders.
      5. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 8 November 2017 23: 54 New
        0
        Do not give in to panic and stupid propaganda ... Nobody buried anything ...
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 8 November 2017 18: 17 New
    10
    It’s sincerely a pity that the militias were stopped near Mariupol — it could be, and the government would be different in the future!
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 8 November 2017 18: 37 New
      +5
      Quote: Herkulesich
      I sincerely regret that the militia was stopped near Mariupol


      Hey. Not yet evening. It seems that the fate of the former Ukraine will be decided in Vietnam, and not in the way the Kiev junta wishes. Already, many forecasts are being made based on the results of the "bidding" between Putin and Trump. We will wait for the publication of the results.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 8 November 2017 18: 58 New
        +2
        Lev hi - your words, yes, certainly to God’s ears!
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 8 November 2017 19: 19 New
          +4
          Quote: Herkulesich
          Herculesic


          "Want to make God laugh - share your plans with him."
          Well, if on the topic, then here is one more proof that the fate of banderlogs and the former Ukraine will not be decided in Kiev (Americans will simply not do such stuffing out of love for calligraphy).
        2. BMP-2
          BMP-2 8 November 2017 19: 20 New
          +2
          But it seems that God’s ears are already taken ... winked
  3. Going
    Going 8 November 2017 18: 21 New
    15
    According to Vlasenko, the new state should have stretched from Odessa to Kharkiv region, occupying the entire south-east of present-day Ukraine.


    I do not know how the new state and what borders, but there will not be any horses on this territory for sure.
  4. Lelek
    Lelek 8 November 2017 18: 26 New
    +7
    (We, with our weak army - scattered, lightly guided - managed to stop it)

    Nude nude. If it weren’t for a shout from Moscow, you guy would bathe on the plank beds, and your commander-in-chief would write memoirs about his great victories in a villa in Spain and would wait for his Merkader with an ice ax.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 20: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: Lelek
      Nude nude. If not for a shout from Moscow

      is not a fact!! As practice has shown, millions are not friends with the head of VNA Ukraine !!! wassat wassat wassat
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 8 November 2017 23: 55 New
        +3
        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
        As practice has shown, millions are not friends with Ukraine.


        Hey. But fanaberiya fountain. Kiev is already trying on Roman toga.
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 9 November 2017 00: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Lelek
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          As practice has shown, millions are not friends with Ukraine.


          Hey. But fanaberiya fountain. Kiev is already trying on Roman toga.

          yes this is all right ... but the fact that there is a country of millions of dEbiloids is already shitty ... and at the same time they don’t want to admit it to us !!!! negative wassat
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 8 November 2017 18: 36 New
    +8
    Cast-leg-headed Vlasenko wanted to portray himself as a hero, but his interview reveals an id .........
  6. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 8 November 2017 18: 42 New
    +9
    The creation of "New Russia" was real. Without the introduction of the Russian army ... To organize a "hybrid war" following the example of the Donbass, for this only the will of the Kremlin was required. Money, weapons, negotiations with local elites, the selection of the right people on the ground ... This is a job for special services, how to organize and support. And apparently, the Kremlin inmates had such a desire ... But after Bohgalter’s urgent visit to the Kremlin, they got frightened of something and began to sharply slow down and work out the "reverse gear". As Gref said publicly: "Donbass is not needed by Russia ... He (Putin), will Donbass carefully merge."
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 20: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: Fedya2017
      The creation of "New Russia" was real. Without the introduction of the Russian army ... To organize a "hybrid war" following the example of the Donbass, for this only the will of the Kremlin was required. Money, weapons, negotiations with local elites, the selection of the right people on the ground ... This is a job for special services, how to organize and support. And apparently, the Kremlin inmates had such a desire ... But after Bohgalter’s urgent visit to the Kremlin, they got frightened of something and began to sharply slow down and work out the "reverse gear". As Gref said publicly: "Donbass is not needed by Russia ... He (Putin), will Donbass carefully merge."

      come on??? Surely the Kremlin organized all this in LDNR, but did not do this in Kharkov and other areas ???
      1. Fedya2017
        Fedya2017 8 November 2017 22: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
        really the Kremlin organized all this in LDNR

        No ... no ... It's all omega and the State Department agents organized. But Putin did not want to ... he warned ... But they did not listen to him. Enemies everywhere ... It is necessary to rally everyone. You can’t swing the galley .... Urrryaaaa! Vote for Putin ... United Russia-The mind is the honor and conscience of our era !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 23: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: Fedya2017
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          really the Kremlin organized all this in LDNR

          No ... no ... It's all omega and the State Department agents organized. But Putin did not want to ... he warned ... But they did not listen to him. Enemies everywhere ... It is necessary to rally everyone. You can’t swing the galley .... Urrryaaaa! Vote for Putin ... United Russia-The mind is the honor and conscience of our era !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Well, in the end, according to your calculations, what happened there ???? The Kremlin organized Donetsk and Lugansk, and left the rest ??? or LDNR themselves rebelled against Svidmya ???? what is your option ????
          1. Fedya2017
            Fedya2017 9 November 2017 01: 07 New
            +1
            Quote: Nikolai the Greek
            The Kremlin organized Donetsk and Lugansk, and left the rest ??? or LDNR themselves rebelled against Svidmya ???? what is your option ????

            By itself, and the boil does not sit ... Here in Kharkov and other places we tried it ourselves. It’s not so simple - the people themselves took it and rebelled ... And in Donetsk \ Lugansk the people were noisy, but no more. Until decisive people came there. with weapons, money and took matters into their own hands. I wonder where these people came from, and who supplied them with the necessary things for the first time?
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 9 November 2017 01: 38 New
              +2
              Quote: Fedya2017
              but not more. Until decisive people came there. with weapons, money and took matters into their own hands. I wonder where these people came from, and who supplied them with the necessary things for the first time?

              I wonder why you decided that in reality it was exactly like that ??? wassat wassat wassat and why then did the Kremlin implement this plan in LDNR, but abandoned Kharkov and others ??? what's the point ???
              1. Fedya2017
                Fedya2017 9 November 2017 12: 44 New
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                I wonder why you decided that in reality it was exactly like that ???

                This is not what I decided. So the events happened there ... You were absent in this world, if you do not remember how the events unfolded there?
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                and why then did the Kremlin implement this plan in LDNR, but abandoned Kharkov and others ??? what's the point ???

                A bast is hanging on the fence - start over? After Burkhgalter’s visit, even the rhetoric of Russian propaganda in the media has changed dramatically. The term "Novorossia" has ceased to be used at all ... The attack on Mariupol was stopped, etc. and so on. Well, in general, if you did not notice or understand anything, then okay ... This is your business, no one convinces you of something. Think as you like.
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 9 November 2017 15: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Fedya2017
                  This is not what I decided. So the events happened there ... You were absent in this world, if you do not remember how the events unfolded there?


                  I was not absent ... I see that you have your own interpretation of events !!! I remember that LDNR was given to the sdamdamites in the face, and Kharkiv, Odessa, etc., etc. merged !!! negative negative negative but it’s easier for you to come up with some visits of some accountants, propaganda of the Russian media, and put the blame on Russia for this matter !!! while forgetting that tens of millions live in hohland, and it would be worth them to start blaming what is happening !!! wink
                  1. Fedya2017
                    Fedya2017 9 November 2017 17: 10 New
                    0
                    Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                    I see that you have your own interpretation of events !!!

                    I am not convincing you of anything, nothing will change from this ... As you like, understand the events. All the best.
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 9 November 2017 17: 15 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Fedya2017
                      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                      I see that you have your own interpretation of events !!!

                      I am not convincing you of anything, nothing will change from this ... As you like, understand the events. All the best.

                      good luck !! wassat
    2. Sergey Kiryushin
      Sergey Kiryushin 9 November 2017 17: 35 New
      0
      My dear, there is already information that is allegedly supported by the facts that Slavyansk and the events that followed it were initiated and funded by the current leaders of Ukraine. This is already in the media. Perhaps a fake, but the stuffing comes from Ukraine. And how to be here?
  7. trahterist
    trahterist 8 November 2017 18: 58 New
    +3
    It’s not yet evening, in today's Ukraine, like in the classic corpse, changes are irreversible
    1. Fedya2017
      Fedya2017 8 November 2017 20: 50 New
      0
      Quote: trahterist
      The night is young

      It's already evening ... Russia is in third place in terms of the infusion of investments into the Ukrainian economy.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 8 November 2017 21: 01 New
        +8
        Quote: Fedya2017
        It's already evening ... Russia is in third place in terms of infusion of investments into the Ukrainian economy

        Is it so written in the training manual?
        1. Fedya2017
          Fedya2017 8 November 2017 21: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Is it so written in the training manual?

          If AiF dated 3.10-17. And other Russian media are agents of the State Department, then yes, it is written in Russian manuals ... "According to the State Statistics Service of Ukraine, the volume of Russian investments in the country's economy, as of July 1, 2017, amounted to $ 4,4 , 9,9 billion. Russia took third place in terms of the amount of invested funds, losing to Cyprus ($ 6,3 billion) and the Netherlands ($ XNUMX billion). We are talking about the share capital of enterprises - that is, investing in investors in business in Ukraine. "
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 8 November 2017 22: 10 New
            +9
            Quote: Fedya2017
            According to the SSSU ...

            This is already good ... In Ukraine, as you know, the laws of nature do not apply. Which is already there ... Gosstat.
            Quote: Fedya2017
            ... "AIF" from 3.10 17 ...

            AIF, as during perestroika, became a garbage dump, so it still remains. To refer to it as a source of history ... well, a matter of taste, of course.
            What is the result of your bold statement?
            Quote: Fedya2017
            Russia - on the third place by infusion of investments into the economy of Ukraine

            But practically nothing was left: "According to the AIF, according to the State Statistics Service of Ukraine, the Russian Federation took ..."
            About nothing. Phe negative
            1. Fedya2017
              Fedya2017 8 November 2017 22: 13 New
              0
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              And practically nothing was left

              You stayed ...
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 8 November 2017 22: 46 New
                +7
                Quote: Fedya2017
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                And practically nothing was left

                You stayed ...

                But I didn’t disappear.
                Go ahead. When you find reliable information - come in.
                Get out with the bullshit again - well, again, you have to slightly ... curse, in wink
                PS: In general, decent people have made their statements, if possible, accompanied by links to the data source. Now it’s just such a link that I have milked from you ... but could you have brought it yourself, and there would have been no questions.
                1. Fedya2017
                  Fedya2017 9 November 2017 00: 09 New
                  0
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Get out with the bullshit again - well, again, you have to slightly ... curse, in

                  Thank you master. Do not cheat us ... And for your arrogance, read the Kremlin sites. They won’t lie there ... Ha hahahaha !!!!!!
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  and questions would not have arisen.

                  And people like you have no questions ... Why do you need them? Your business under the peak and perform ...
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 9 November 2017 07: 54 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Fedya2017
                    And people like you have no questions ... Why do you need them? Your business under the peak and perform ...

                    Rude is harmful ... Vasya, ugh ... Fedya wink
                    1. Fedya2017
                      Fedya2017 9 November 2017 12: 54 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Rude is harmful ... Vasya, ugh ... Fedya

                      “What measure you measure, that measure will return to you” ... Such things, Jack, so do not twist your tail. Although you have your own way - the tail turns the dog ... Try Bobik ... pah ... jack, serve ... I stop further communication on this. It makes no sense. All the best.
      2. Marconi41
        Marconi41 9 November 2017 04: 58 New
        0
        So what follows from this? Yes, we are buying from Ukraine helicopter engines for MI-8 for export, other equipment of which we have not yet created analogues. So, we need not to buy all this? You yourself begin to talk like Ukrainians. In addition, during the mess in Ukraine, quick money is made there really quickly. Well, it is all the same to private business on patriotism.
  8. kaserog
    kaserog 8 November 2017 19: 52 New
    +3
    if you look really, the Donbass militia could not take control of such a large territory purely physically since it was too small and numerically for such a territory and there were volunteers there to beat the banderlogs two times and miscalculated if you look real and the rest as usual, the hosposniki join the winners or sit and they are silent - there isn’t everyone themselves - there will be a movement, I think we will support but we will not start the liberation instead of local ones
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 20: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Caserogue
      if you look really, the Donbass militia could not take control of such a large territory purely physically since it was too small and numerically for such a territory and there were volunteers there to beat the banderlogs two times and miscalculated if you look real and the rest as usual, the hosposniki join the winners or sit and they are silent - there isn’t everyone themselves - there will be a movement, I think we will support but we will not start the liberation instead of local ones

      some people have a different opinion ... everyone dreams that the vast majority are adequate Ukrainians !!! wassat wassat
    2. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 8 November 2017 22: 44 New
      +1
      And here it’s not for them, here it’s necessary to fight for themselves. On our border, a state hostile to us spits in our direction and crap. Therefore, they must be beaten, regardless of what the locals do. Yes, and the locals fight not bad, they stand tight for three years.
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 23: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Herman 4223
        And the locals fight not bad, they stand tight for three years.

        Are you talking about LDNR ??? if about them, then do not drag out to hohland !!! VNA Ukraine no one fights and does not stand tight !!! negative negative negative
  9. faterdom
    faterdom 8 November 2017 21: 50 New
    +1
    It seems that the guy is able to dimly see the future. He simply does not know what kind of pictures he is blaming.
  10. Eurodav
    Eurodav 9 November 2017 03: 40 New
    0
    Quote: dvina71
    And when at least someone from the Kremlin announced plans to create New Russia? I don’t even believe that you forgot or don’t know how it really was. I remind you .. they talked about New Russia exclusively in Ukraine. As the answer to the Maidan. We’ve even gathered some kind of conference .. Got it? Or screwed up your tags? And how after that serious analysts in the Kremlin could decide on such a project if nobody needed it in Ukraine ..? How many people came out under Russian flags in the eastern regions, in Odessa? In addition to Kharkov ... it was about dozens ... a maximum of two three hundred. And if you do not need New Russia, then the Kremlin is even more so.
    And honestly .. this is so in Ukrainian, look for the guilty around.

    I agree! Again, Putin merged everything with them, to push at least something by themselves is not fate ... although, I’m sorry, they would have moved, but again, GDP does not allow ...
  11. LeonidL
    LeonidL 9 November 2017 05: 28 New
    +1
    very old news, however! They wrote about this quite openly, even at the congress in Kharkov. Then Yanukovych betrayed and Kharkiv watching Doba and Benya fled ... It is a pity that they did not grow together. Betting on traitors is not worth it.
  12. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS 9 November 2017 11: 20 New
    +1
    Not yet evening)))