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More than a million ammunition after repairs returned to Russian arsenals

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More than one million pieces of ammunition returned to stock after repair, transfers RIA News Post Deputy Defense Minister Dmitry Bulgakov.


More than a million ammunition after repairs returned to Russian arsenals


Ammunition repair has been resumed at the arsenals, thanks to which over one million pieces of ammunition have been returned to stockpiles,
said Bulgakov in an interview with the newspaper "Red Star".

According to him, “currently an innovative project is being successfully implemented for the introduction of modern capping of ammunition from composite materials with increased resistance to the effects of a flame.”

Also, “while creating a modern and safe storage system for missiles and ammunition, along with the construction of new storage facilities, we will get rid of old warehouses and weapons and ammunition, ”said the general.

Back in 2013, we completely switched from the destruction of ammunition using a blasting method to industrial disposal at specialized enterprises; more than 2,5 million tons of ammunition was recycled industrially
added on.
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  1. Dezinto
    Dezinto 8 November 2017 17: 02 New
    +6
    Feels they will be needed.
    1. maxim947
      maxim947 8 November 2017 17: 07 New
      0
      To carry out "tests"
    2. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 8 November 2017 17: 14 New
      22
      “An innovative project is currently being successfully implemented to introduce modern closure of ammunition made of composite materials with increased flame resistance.”

      I really want to hope ... And then you take a box with shells, and his rotten bottom: Cartilage! ! !
      And well, if you're lucky and not on your feet ...
      In general, the ammunition we receive, in some cases, is "SOMETHING."
      For cartridges 7,62X54, the liner breaks in the chamber of the PCM, the VOG “sags” to the under-barrel, and so on.
      Storage is a responsible matter yes
      1. Evgeny RS
        Evgeny RS 9 November 2017 11: 25 New
        0
        Old plastic is also gritty, especially in the cold.
    3. Dembel77
      Dembel77 8 November 2017 17: 30 New
      0
      I am joining. Just not felt, but understood. Do not get me wrong, the war is not far off.
    4. In100gram
      In100gram 8 November 2017 17: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Feels they will be needed.

      Not necessary. Everything has an expiration date. Previously, they simply blew up at landfills, now what can be repaired with less money than to buy a new one.
      1. MOSKVITYANIN
        MOSKVITYANIN 8 November 2017 23: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: In100gram
        Quote: DEZINTO
        Feels they will be needed.

        Not necessary. Everything has an expiration date. Previously, they simply blew up at landfills, now what can be repaired with less money than to buy a new one.

        Previously, only the Penza Artillery School in the entire Union trained specialists in the maintenance and disposal of ammunition ....
      2. 73bor
        73bor 9 November 2017 01: 10 New
        +3
        If so, then this is a great thing who embodied this, just a Hero, about my respect, I don’t even bother!
  2. mad
    mad 8 November 2017 17: 08 New
    +3
    Hmm .. why dispose of? It seems to me that in LDNR they would have been more useful. Or is it "disposed of over 2,5 of a million tons of ammunition" and it should be read "as transferred as humanitarian aid")
    1. Going
      Going 8 November 2017 17: 15 New
      13
      And in Syria they will not be superfluous.
    2. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 8 November 2017 17: 20 New
      14
      Quote: mad
      Hmm .. why dispose of? It seems to me that in LDNR they would have been more useful. Or is it "disposed of over 2,5 of a million tons of ammunition" and it should be read "as transferred as humanitarian aid")


      Quote: Going
      And in Syria they will not be superfluous.


      Read my comment above.
      Are we (well, and the Syrians for one) enemies for you, so as to substitute us?
      Can you imagine how, for example, an ATGM is risking a missile? And if this missile is expired, and is not controllable?
      Is the risk in vain? We will not put our lives for the snuff of tobacco?

      You highly appreciate us ...
      1. mad
        mad 8 November 2017 17: 31 New
        +2
        No offense, I meant high-quality ammunition, after control shots, etc. So that the deadlines are not extended, but taken to where they are needed drinks
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 8 November 2017 17: 42 New
          +7
          Quote: mad
          No offense, I meant high-quality ammunition, after control shots, etc. So that the deadlines are not extended, but taken to where they are needed

          I’m not offended. But there is a hunch that someone in charge at YOU will manipulate the papers for this matter, check out a couple of combinations and as a result: The funds allocated for this in his pocket are not in our condition ...
          This has already happened ...
          They did not defeat corruption, but nobody canceled it.
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 8 November 2017 23: 22 New
            +1
            I agree, it’s much more likely and I hope for this that everything “needed” by the north wind has already “puffed” and is quietly waiting in the wings. repeat Anyway - it’s cheaper to buy from the same ukrovermaht. And then, while here you will issue, while you will bring, then still the Americans will gladly present photos and videos. negative And you have a “diplomat” not even bucks, but also candy wrappers and even a tank, even a train with ammunition. Fak request the train no longer overtake, ukrodebily rails dismantled, you have to "pay a little" and the banderlogs on their hands drag everything lol
      2. Herculesic
        Herculesic 8 November 2017 17: 34 New
        +2
        Comrade Separ of the DPR, most likely, “hotels” are delivered to you not only from Russia, but ukroin ammunition also reaches you, and the quality of the goods says only one thing, you need to use it as soon as possible! The main thing is that you always have ammunition stocks for a long time, while the Ukrainian authorities do not want you to worlds, they will spoil your life for a long time!
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 8 November 2017 17: 45 New
          +4
          Quote: Herkulesich
          ukroinskie ammunition also reach you

          If only as an exotic.
          But we see what, and where we have to unload.
      3. Primoos
        Primoos 8 November 2017 17: 49 New
        +3
        Verbs of truth, not enemies. Expired ammunition is not dangerous for the enemy.
    3. Mih1974
      Mih1974 8 November 2017 23: 17 New
      +1
      Are you a stupid person? Or ukrofashistskoe scum? Look at the video of the ukrovermaht's video on rotten mortars - you offer this for the fighters of LDNR am ?
  3. Kerensky
    Kerensky 8 November 2017 17: 09 New
    +2
    It is high time to properly dispose of, and not plow, the national treasure!
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 8 November 2017 17: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Kerensky
      It is high time to properly dispose of, and not plow, the national treasure!

      All right. Only everything depends on the cost and availability of technology.
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 8 November 2017 17: 49 New
        +2
        Only everything depends on the cost and availability of technology.

        Delay transportation is also a delicate matter. But if the mountain does not go to Mohammed ....
        I wish the Moscow Region took care of creating a mobile recycling complex that could arrive at storage sites. As a rule, the railway branch approaches them ...
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 8 November 2017 18: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: Kerensky
          Delay transportation is also a delicate matter. But if the mountain does not go to Mohammed ....
          I wish the Moscow Region took care of creating a mobile recycling complex that could arrive at storage sites. As a rule, the railway branch approaches them ...

          Right Mohammed can not be allowed to approach the disposal of a mountain of ammunition.
          1. Kerensky
            Kerensky 8 November 2017 18: 51 New
            +1
            Appreciated! I completely agree. good
    2. just exp
      just exp 8 November 2017 20: 51 New
      0
      and not just disposed of, but recycled to raw materials.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 8 November 2017 23: 25 New
        +1
        So this is recycling: metal - goes to re-melting, gunpowder - is likely to be burned, plastic and "firewood" - to trash.
  4. steelmaker
    steelmaker 8 November 2017 17: 13 New
    +2
    I wonder why they don’t say how much ammunition is produced. All are fighting the Soviet legacy?
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 8 November 2017 17: 25 New
      +9
      Quote: steel maker
      I wonder why they don’t say how much ammunition is produced.

      Obviously, because this information is of no interest to anyone. Neither the United States, nor China, nor the European war. For the same reason, satellite maps with the exact coordinates of their storage locations are not published. And technical documentation for manufacturing is not freely available because of a complete lack of interest.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 8 November 2017 23: 31 New
        +1
        OH I beg you. sad Remember the scum of Bakatik - did you hand over the complete wiretap scheme at the Amer embassy? Do you think this was the most moronic, but nifiga, according to the scruff of the contract, our AU satellite beacons are on our Tu-160 !! fool And they always know where they are. And here you are about "no one wants to know," they know EVERYTHING and for a long time. Actually, the difference between the "50 million rounds" and 60 million rounds was produced, for the war between us - none. And everything is important - the commissioning of surface rocket carriers and submarines, aviation, and even the number of armored vehicles, we ourselves do not hide. Do you think the big secret for us is where the ammunition is stored at the Americans? Yes, fullness. lol Of course, we don’t have enough information, but all the same, such information is very variable in time, but we know everything about something. bully
    2. In100gram
      In100gram 8 November 2017 17: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: steel maker
      why don't they say how much ammunition is produced?

      Do you know the concept of "secret information"? You still ask how much what and where is stored request
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 8 November 2017 17: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: In100gram
        Do you know the concept of "secret information"? You still ask how much what and where is stored

        The amount of bread (!!!) entering the V / H - SECRET INFORMATION.
    3. AUL
      AUL 9 November 2017 08: 57 New
      0
      Quote: steel maker
      I wonder why they don’t say how much ammunition is produced. All are fighting the Soviet legacy?
      Recently, there was an article on the state of affairs in the production of all kinds of gunpowder and raw materials for them. A complete nightmare and outright wrecking. What ammunition to do?
  5. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 8 November 2017 17: 16 New
    +1
    Good news, is there really a master's approach in the sun? Hopefully, a repetition of shell hunger does not threaten us.
    1. In100gram
      In100gram 8 November 2017 17: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Vasya Vassin
      Hopefully, a repetition of shell hunger does not threaten us.

      And when did he threaten us? Enlighten ...
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 8 November 2017 17: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: Vasya Vassin
        Hopefully, a repetition of shell hunger does not threaten us.


        Quote: In100gram
        And when did he threaten us? Enlighten ...

        In the First World War.
        And after such an artificially created "famine", with the devastation, on the tsar’s reserves, the entire Civil War was fought.
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 8 November 2017 23: 35 New
          +2
          Well, there was a very bad premise there, just in time as it is now: just before the war, the critters in the Constituent Assembly sold the decision to “sell the reserves” of copper, tin, cotton, and many, many, many. Yes, these geeks then did not think about the harm of the Russian Empire, but only that they could buy up cheaply and sell out at an expensive price, but the result was huge damage to the Country.
          And now Russia has lost a lot of state reserves, so there was a protracted war, only the Stalin shootings of the "owners" of some plants "who did not want to serve the Motherland" (transition to military rails ") would descend on us.
      2. Vasya Vassin
        Vasya Vassin 8 November 2017 18: 03 New
        0
        in pmv. at the holy ring
    2. Mikhail Zubkov
      Mikhail Zubkov 9 November 2017 01: 50 New
      +2
      In 1941, they also thought so, but lost half of the pre-war stock by November - and it came to the point that they still fired with imperial ammunition and shells in the early 1900s. And even hit! It’s good that they didn’t think of “disposing of” them in 1935 under Tukhachevsky. This is a delicate matter - writing off ammunition "by expiration date". That which is unsuitable is intolerable - only DANGEROUS need to be written off after control shootings. According to pieces of paper, the suitability is not determined, except for hand grenades. May God grant the mind to the inspectors! Very good the right thing.
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 8 November 2017 17: 32 New
    0
    Yeralal: Back in 2013, we completely switched from the destruction of ammunition using a blasting method to industrial disposal at specialized enterprises; more than 2,5 million tons of ammunition was recycled industrially
    Not in a businesslike way.
  7. Settlement Oparyshev
    Settlement Oparyshev 8 November 2017 17: 32 New
    0
    What is a lemon of ammunition? Two mochilov day? Well, a lemon of cartridges, this is to kill 10 militants.
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 November 2017 17: 35 New
    +2
    Oppankees all comment on something! What is ammunition repair?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 8 November 2017 17: 45 New
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      What is ammunition repair?

      Bringing into a combat ready state. Well, plus a defect.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 8 November 2017 18: 06 New
        +1
        And detail? The sleeves rusted, they were sealed and forward. I just never seriously thought about repair of shells. How to repair fighters I saw, I know.
        1. TiRex
          TiRex 8 November 2017 21: 38 New
          0
          ammunition is rockets and large-caliber shells and bombs and even grenades ...
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 8 November 2017 23: 39 New
          +2
          Can you imagine the tank charge? There is not something that "flew away", namely that which "in the trunk" ceased to exist.

          This cylinder on the right, here it is possible to "shake out" the gunpowder and "push" a new one. repeat Well and the like.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 9 November 2017 08: 29 New
            0
            Well and the like.
            you have the most complete answer. I do not mock at all, really did not know and did not think. Thank you
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 8 November 2017 18: 05 New
      0
      Maintenance work on bp
  9. DMB84
    DMB84 8 November 2017 17: 48 New
    +2
    Quote: Gardamir
    Oppankees all comment on something! What is ammunition repair?

    Well, like .... the current repair is to tint, where it has peeled off, put the capsule back out, but if the overhaul is better, putty it and putty on it and paint it again. and it’s possible to replace the capsule, and to trim the bullet .... Many Uzbeks are required ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 8 November 2017 18: 32 New
      +1
      "and paint again. and the capsule can be replaced, and the bullet to line up" ////

      And dry the gunpowder in the sun, if the weather is good. And to add, if necessary. smile
  10. steelmaker
    steelmaker 8 November 2017 18: 03 New
    0
    Ammunition production is secret information? Or maybe we just do not have the capacity for production?
    And in general, what in our time and with our government can be secret? They picked up the military contracts, and they will perform 10 years.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 18: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: steel maker
      Ammunition production is secret information?

      no ... every day they write about it in the press and talk on TV, covering the entire production cycle !!! laughing laughing laughing
  11. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 8 November 2017 18: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: mad
    Hmm .. why dispose of? It seems to me that in LDNR they would have been more useful. Or is it "disposed of over 2,5 of a million tons of ammunition" and it should be read "as transferred as humanitarian aid")

    Is the shelf life expired? means for recycling! Otherwise, undermining is possible when using. For example, a shutter will fly when shot in the face. VOG can jerk off not sourly. And if the gun explodes in a tank or self-propelled gun, then the polar fox will immediately come ..
  12. Olegi1
    Olegi1 8 November 2017 18: 26 New
    0
    2.5 million tons disposed of? Do we have them at all? Somehow, at a dacha in the market, I saved up stew from the state reserve. Well, like, they got a salary working in this way. And the shelf life expired after six months. Well, what can I say about this stew? Just a class! I hardly found this, the company called Scoop, not advertising, it really looks like.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 November 2017 19: 51 New
      +1
      In Russia, it is time to make new ammunition, starting from 5,45, ending with 240 mm mines for Tulips.
  13. Sergei75
    Sergei75 8 November 2017 20: 11 New
    0
    2,5 million tons disposed of, but I hope 5 million tons taken to the warehouse?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2017 22: 41 New
      +1
      God forbid at least they took 500 thousand tons.
  14. volan
    volan 9 November 2017 07: 49 New
    0
    And on the other hand, it’s a pity that they cancel the wooden cork. Winter helps in the trenches. Yes, and as building material there ..
  15. Savignon
    Savignon 9 November 2017 21: 31 New
    0
    Rostec news, as well as news of its divisions, is always good news.