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V.Safronkov - OPCW: You have not even been to Khan-Sheikhun, where are the "objective conclusions" from?

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Vladimir Safronkov, Deputy Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN Security Council, commented on the report of the joint UN-OPCW Commission on the use of chemical weapons in Syria. The head of the joint investigation team, Edmond Mulet, stated that “the investigation was conducted impartially,” after which the Russian diplomat asked: “Why didn’t the commission even visit the place where the chemical incident occurred?”


From the statement of Mr. Mule:
Our commission did not attend the Khan-Sheikhun and Umm-Khosh because of the high danger from terrorists. At the same time, we guarantee that our methods led to objective conclusions based on a thorough analysis of the events in these cities of Syria. We have collected information from a wide range of sources.


According to Vladimir Safronkov, this approach does not hold water.

V.Safronkov - OPCW: You have not even been to Khan-Sheikhun, where are the "objective conclusions" from?


Deputy Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN Security Council:
As you can, working remotely and refusing to visit the place of the incident, talk about some "objective conclusions." The section on the use of chemical weapons in Khan-Sheikhun draws attention to the apparent abundance of turnovers using the subjunctive mood. The mechanism, on which great hope and great responsibility were placed, simply cannot continue to work in this vein. Without a radical restructuring, he will remain a blind instrument for settling accounts with the Syrian authorities. Now such a reputation is taking shape.


Then Vladimir Safronkov added:

We do not undermine the authority of the mission, but simply operate with facts and arguments.


Recall that in the report of the special commission of the UN-OPCW, ATS troops were accused of himatak on Khan-Sheikhun. At the same time, the main “evidence” was the reports of representatives of the White Helmets group, known for its links with the Dzhebhat an-Nusra terrorist group (banned in Russia).
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 8 November 2017 06: 45 New
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    Burn these creatures, Safronkov! .. Do not let out of the hall ..
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 8 November 2017 06: 55 New
      +2
      Burn it to Eun, according to the South Korean press wassat !!!
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 8 November 2017 06: 59 New
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        Quote: Herkulesich
        Burn it to Eun, according to the South Korean press wassat !!!

        Eun already stands for Assad’s interests? Why drag it in every time?
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 8 November 2017 14: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Anarchist
          Eun already stands for Assad’s interests? Why drag it in every time?

          He and Assad are in the same cage. They have a common enemy. As well as in Russia.
      2. andrewkor
        andrewkor 8 November 2017 08: 02 New
        +9
        Eh, there is no his famous: “I look into the eyes!” Maybe behind the scenes left?
        1. Dashout
          Dashout 8 November 2017 11: 09 New
          +8
          Quote: andrewkor
          Eh, there is no his famous: “I look into the eyes!” Maybe behind the scenes left?

          Yes, great then! He should be appointed permanent representative to the UN (he is now deputy), otherwise this policy of concern and condemnation is already tired ...
      3. The brightest
        The brightest 8 November 2017 08: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Burn it to Eun, according to the South Korean press !!!

        In this part, they cannot be trusted at all, because it is forbidden by law to tell something good.
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 8 November 2017 07: 20 New
      10
      210ox
      Burn these creatures, Safronkov! .. Do not let out of the hall ..
      Yeah, come to the ozk. Hand out the cotton gauze dressings. And get the flask with sarin. laughing wassat Let's see how the discussion of this report goes further.
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 9 November 2017 00: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Observer2014
        210ox
        Burn these creatures, Safronkov! .. Do not let out of the hall ..
        Yeah, come to the ozk. Hand out the cotton gauze dressings. And get the flask with sarin. laughing wassat Let's see how the discussion of this report goes further.

        and cheoyeёёёёёёёёёёё !!! what what what it is strange that the Americans did not drag the flask with sarin to the Security Council !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing
    3. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 8 November 2017 07: 29 New
      10
      Safronkov seems to be a straightforward man and not prone to mumble. It’s a pity that only deputy, not a permanent representative.
      1. Just a man
        Just a man 8 November 2017 08: 46 New
        +4
        Yes you are right. Nebenzya, who was appointed permanent representative, is not fish, not meat. I got used to rustling papers at third-level posts in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. In the army they say about such people, do not ..., do not guard. And Safronkov is a fighter.
        1. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 8 November 2017 09: 10 New
          10
          Quote: Just a man
          Yes you are right. Nebenzya, who was appointed permanent representative, is not fish, not meat. I got used to rustling papers at third-level posts in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. In the army they say about such people, do not ..., do not guard. And Safronkov is a fighter.

          It seems that at the appointment the line for "smoothing corners" prevailed. Correctly or not, hell knows him. But now, when a tough response was required, they put up Safronkov. It may be such a tandem successful, but I’ll see Safronkov as a permanent representative with great pleasure.
        2. Grumant
          Grumant 8 November 2017 13: 46 New
          0
          That a fighter is good, he lacks oratory - this is bad. request Here such as Lavrov would ...
        3. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 9 November 2017 00: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: Just a man
          Yes you are right. Nebenzya, who was appointed permanent representative, is not fish, not meat. I got used to rustling papers at third-level posts in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. In the army they say about such people, do not ..., do not guard. And Safronkov is a fighter.

          what what what how many years have you worked with Nebenzey ??? winked winked laughing laughing laughing
      2. Vanek
        Vanek 8 November 2017 11: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Hagalaz
        Safronkov seems to be a straightforward man and not prone to mumble. It’s a pity that only deputy, not a permanent representative.


        Last time? Do you remember? All comes with experience.

        Caste, Jealousy *
      3. Stas Snezhin
        Stas Snezhin 8 November 2017 12: 49 New
        0
        Safronkov is a stern and concrete man.
        More would be, such representatives of Russia ..
        1. Slovak
          Slovak 8 November 2017 14: 58 New
          0
          and do not limit it to the right to use the Russian language to the fullest! And let the translators think for themselves what synonyms to choose!
    4. Petr1
      Petr1 8 November 2017 07: 32 New
      +8
      Such a representative and according to .. can give, Safronkov is a gladiator-diplomat !!! His colleagues there are all afraid laughing
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 November 2017 07: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: Petr1
        Such a representative and according to .. can give, Safronkov is a gladiator-diplomat !!! His colleagues there are all afraid laughing

        90s kid, got a job at the Foreign Ministry
        Krasava! Not like everyone - OBEP, administration ...
        1. Just a man
          Just a man 8 November 2017 08: 51 New
          +5
          Well, of course, he is not like a registered incognito on the krasnodary website, which has been stinking since October of this year, from the moment of registration.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 8 November 2017 11: 28 New
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            Quote: Just a man
            Well, of course, he is not like a registered incognito on the krasnodary website, which has been stinking since October of this year, from the moment of registration.

            You my name, snls, TIN? :)
            You can find me in Krasnodar, Orange Fitness on Kubanonaberezhnaya, at 20:00 you will come - you will not be mistaken :)
            I’m either in the rocking chair or in the ring in the martial arts, it will be relevant - I will throw off the phone in PM :) Except Saturday and Sunday
            1. Just a man
              Just a man 8 November 2017 11: 30 New
              +1
              Throw off the name, this is enough
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 8 November 2017 11: 39 New
                +1
                In your personal
                1. Just a man
                  Just a man 8 November 2017 11: 44 New
                  0
                  Yes, I have seen.
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 9 November 2017 00: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: Petr1
        His colleagues there are all afraid laughing

        not colleagues to him these nits !!! laughing laughing
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 8 November 2017 06: 54 New
    0
    What kind of methods are there — a thicket of coffee, on which they guessed, or were identified by spots on the Sun? ??? fool
    1. AVGUST
      AVGUST 8 November 2017 07: 04 New
      +2
      Not, like in Japan, there are minibuses on the streets, so diviners at the anus guess in them .....
      1. novel66
        novel66 8 November 2017 07: 37 New
        +3
        really trust? because anyone can be there request
  3. Ushly_bashkort
    Ushly_bashkort 8 November 2017 06: 57 New
    0
    Nothing, all of Powell's test tube was swallowed and it is swallowed. You can even show a million evidence to the contrary - zero sense. It's like playing with a sharpie, when both you and he know about it, he will win one FIG
    1. demo
      demo 8 November 2017 07: 05 New
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      The sharpie does not always win.
      Even if he is super, extra class.
      There is also a candelabrum.
      1. Ushly_bashkort
        Ushly_bashkort 8 November 2017 09: 30 New
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        And the determination of those who command our candelabrum is enough to use it?
    2. gaura
      gaura 8 November 2017 08: 15 New
      +1
      They no longer swallow it, they missed time, they needed to push their resolutions on emotions. Like Ivanka. And now they only wave their fists after the fight. A useful exhaust for them is zero. Also, they will lose their last trust
      1. Ushly_bashkort
        Ushly_bashkort 8 November 2017 09: 00 New
        0
        Whose trust will they lose? Everyone already knows everything perfectly. Those who could condemn and chastise have already been soiled up by the way I can’t do it, they put everything on us with the appliance, China does not blow and must wait, it makes no sense to rock it. Zugzwang comes out. No, Assad and I are still floundering of course, and no one will climb by force now, but the peak will shine in the future is quite concrete.
        1. gaura
          gaura 8 November 2017 09: 50 New
          +2
          For all their arrogance, they try to save face for their citizens. And in Syria, Americans seem to be fighting terrorists. And the OPCW seems to be investigating something. But they certainly didn’t burn out this topic anymore, it was forgotten, their emotions calmed down. In order to push something through the necessary new setting, then again it will be possible to bomb with axes. The main thing is to do it right away in the wake of emotions
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 9 November 2017 00: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Ushly_bashkort
          Whose trust will they lose? Everyone already knows everything perfectly. Those who could condemn and chastise have already been soiled up by the way I can’t do it, they put everything on us with the appliance, China does not blow and must wait, it makes no sense to rock it. Zugzwang comes out. No, Assad and I are still floundering of course, and no one will climb by force now, but the peak will shine in the future is quite concrete.

          it is strange that you were so distracted .... also on behalf of Russia !!! wassat wassat wassat judging by the speeches, you are from a gang of Americans and their henchmen !!! laughing laughing laughing I guess when Russia entered Syria, they screamed that everything was gone !!! wink yes lol lol lol
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 November 2017 06: 57 New
    +1
    ... talk about some kind of "objective conclusions."

    Objectivity has not even smelled since the beginning of the work of this commission in Syria. Initially, the task was to compromise Assad as much as possible, and subsequently Russia, as an assistant to the "bloody" president. The main thing, based on the "data" of the London Observatory and the White Helmets that have repeatedly compromised themselves, draw conclusions that satisfy the commission and its customers.
  5. AVGUST
    AVGUST 8 November 2017 07: 03 New
    +1
    Cool, the author of the article declined Edmond Mule in the middle kind, a subtle mistake, distorting the idea, but probably hit the nail on the head.
  6. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 8 November 2017 07: 08 New
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    I conducted an objective investigation, collected information from many sources (rummaged through facebook, twitter and even looked at instagram) and responsibly declare, Mr. Moulet is a pedophile, cannibal, rapist and hides fifty million euros from the French tax. The investigation was completely impartial.
    1. SOF
      SOF 8 November 2017 07: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Mikhail3
      I conducted an objective investigation

      ... now it would be published in the UN. It would be interesting to see the reaction.
  7. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
    Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 8 November 2017 07: 09 New
    0
    We do not undermine the authority of the mission, but simply operate on facts and arguments.


    That is, the credibility of the mission is beyond doubt?
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 9 November 2017 11: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
      That is, the credibility of the mission is beyond doubt?

      It is difficult to undermine what is not. And the authority of this talking room is at the level of the plinth.
  8. MARGADON
    MARGADON 8 November 2017 07: 16 New
    +3
    Oh, and the angry man Safronkov, burns the truth of the uterus into the eyes of the adversary.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 8 November 2017 07: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: MARGADON
      Oh, and the angry man Safronkov, burns the truth of the uterus into the eyes of the adversary.

      He really can burn the uterus ...
  9. tchoni
    tchoni 8 November 2017 07: 23 New
    +1
    Guys, I really do not understand these cries. According to the Hague Convention, there are two types of warriors: a combatant is a dude with open arms, insignia and state affiliation - the rules of war apply to them - they cannot be poisoned by gas, tortured, etc.
    there are non-combatants - this is a peaceful man, taking weapons from caches at night, these are gangs, even if they openly carry weapons, and other partisans - these conventions do not apply ... You can torture, poison gas, etc. It’s, without a trace, not humane, but this is a topic for another conversation. Purely speculative, if there was a single jihadist bomber in the aul, then, for the sake of its capture and destruction, it is possible, according to the same convention, to poison the entire aul ...
    1. insular
      insular 8 November 2017 08: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: tchoni
      there are noncombatants - this is a peaceful man taking weapons from caches at night, these are gangs, even if they openly carry weapons, and other partisans - these conventions do not apply

      Reread again what you are writing about, you are more than completely mistaken ...
      Non-combatants cannot be the direct target of an armed attack by an adversary AT ALL, as long as they are non-combatants. Not to mention the fact that the Necombatants are not a "peacekeeper"
      Quote: tchoni
      then, for the sake of his capture and destruction, it is possible, according to the same convention, to poison the entire village ...
      Hitler in hell smiled at such words ... Do not give him such joy.
  10. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 8 November 2017 07: 53 New
    +9
    This woodpecker has not yet been fired from the Foreign Ministry?

    Your work is wonderful, Lord ...
  11. VadimSt
    VadimSt 8 November 2017 08: 02 New
    0
    Everything is as always - who is to blame, daughter-in-law!
  12. evil partisan
    evil partisan 8 November 2017 08: 10 New
    +5
    Sofronkov is beautiful. good
  13. private person
    private person 8 November 2017 08: 22 New
    +3
    But it’s really a shame for a man to say good things, only no one wants to hear him. Russia is a great country, it seems to be written and said so, but in reality it turns out that nobody emphasizes us, we need to do something about this. We must increase the world rating on all information platforms of the world.
  14. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 8 November 2017 08: 35 New
    +4
    Vladimir Safronkov is an excellent exception to Russian diplomacy.
    In principle, the opportunity arises to work at the UN as a pair: "evil-kind." One representative attacks and fights back, another - seeks allies and continues the argument in the form of "soft power".
    In general, Western demagogues need to whip on the cheeks more often ...
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 8 November 2017 14: 37 New
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      Quote: pafegosoff
      Vladimir Safronkov is an excellent exception to Russian diplomacy.
      In principle, the opportunity arises to work at the UN as a pair: "evil-kind." One representative attacks and fights back, another - seeks allies and continues the argument in the form of "soft power".
      In general, Western demagogues need to whip on the cheeks more often ...

      Yes, there are such people in any country, but no one pushes them at the UN :)
  15. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 8 November 2017 08: 37 New
    +2
    Well done man! It’s necessary for these wise men to poke into their own shit more often! angry
  16. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 8 November 2017 08: 51 New
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    Safronkov’s methods of delivering information and the nature of the question may remind someone of the rhetoric of the “business showdowns” of the 90s, but tell me: how can you talk to most drones in this room?
    These slugs understand only power, since they are corrupt in essence.
    Safronkov openly and aggressively expresses the point of view of Russia. That's fine. There is nothing to stand on ceremony with them.
  17. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 8 November 2017 10: 27 New
    0
    And again, our diplomats have not two or one and a half, or both yours and ours. It seems to have worked poorly, but respected people. Well, if they worked poorly, so why respect them. This is the main reason why our diplomats are not taken seriously.
  18. Egorovich
    Egorovich 8 November 2017 10: 56 New
    +5
    The OPCW Commission in Khan Sheikhun was not, but carefully examined the goat that died from sarin. This animal was brought to them, allegedly from the place of the explosion.
  19. pvv113
    pvv113 8 November 2017 10: 56 New
    0
    Our commission did not visit Khan Sheikhun and Umm Hosh for the reason that there is a high danger from terrorists.

    Since when did they become afraid of their own?
  20. astepanov
    astepanov 8 November 2017 11: 49 New
    0
    Well said. Well, tough. AND? Is there a result or, as always?
  21. Des10
    Des10 8 November 2017 11: 51 New
    +1
    “We do not undermine the authority of the mission, but simply operate on facts and arguments”
    but it would be necessary.
  22. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 8 November 2017 12: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Mikhail3
    and I declare responsibly, Mr. Moulet is a pedophile, cannibal, rapist and hides from the French tax of fifty million euros. The investigation was completely impartial.


    A Th, similar. He is true from Guatemala (a former French colony?) And he has been sitting at the UN for a long time, if not from the 90s, then from the beginning of the 2000s for sure. It is necessary to change these snickering "international officials."
  23. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 8 November 2017 13: 56 New
    0
    How many multi-way provocations and performances were aimed at accusing the Syrian authorities of using chemical weapons? How many have been prosecuted? That's how the OPCW loses credibility. Is it dangerous there ... is it not dangerous for journalists, doctors, humanitarian workers?
  24. Sergey53
    Sergey53 8 November 2017 14: 49 New
    0
    White helmets are associated not only with the Jebhat an Nusra but also with the Anglo-Saxons.
  25. Djahongir
    Djahongir 8 November 2017 17: 47 New
    0
    Safronkov - the successor of Vitaly Ivanovich Churkin.
    Specifically, clearly, in fact and in the PERSON reptiles ...
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 8 November 2017 17: 56 New
      +7
      Quote: Djahongir
      Safronkov - continuer of the case of Vitaly Ivanovich Churkin

      If this is trolling, then it is extremely thick.
      If you really think so, then ... sorry for the bird crying
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 9 November 2017 12: 00 New
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        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: Djahongir
        Safronkov - continuer of the case of Vitaly Ivanovich Churkin

        If this is trolling, then it is extremely thick.
        If you really think so, then ... sorry for the bird crying

        Let's hope - "will be finalized with a file" in the process of being a deputy. Good diplomats will never hurt, and experienced diplomats will be even less so.
  26. Rostislav
    Rostislav 9 November 2017 11: 38 New
    0
    We do not undermine the authority of the mission ..

    And why? What, "diplomatic language" prohibits calling a liar a liar?