Polish Foreign Minister came up with a new ideology for Ukraine

Polish Foreign Minister Vitold Vashchikovsky said that Ukraine should change the state ideology and abandon the glorification of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA, OUN-UPA - banned in Russia). According to him, the national identity of the country should be built on the Heavenly Hundred and the participants of the armed conflict in the Donbass, Polish media reported

We turn to Ukraine and say: "Let's deal with history Together, through dialogue, let's create joint tools, as was the case with the Germans. "Of course, with Germany, things are not so perfect, but this has led to great progress

- noted Vashchikovsky.

He added that Warsaw would like to see Ukraine friendly, democratic, holistic, indivisible.

On the other hand, we would like it to be a country that regulates its history, solves problems that happened many years ago.

- said the head of the foreign ministry.

In early July, the head of the Polish Foreign Ministry said that Warsaw will be against Ukraine’s integration into the EU until the two countries resolve historical disputes and issues of the Polish minority:

Worst of all, the situation [in relations between Ukraine and Poland], of course, in historical matters. Our message is very clear: you will not get to Europe with Bandera

Earlier, the Polish Peasant Party proposed to introduce criminal liability for the promotion of OUN-UPA *. The corresponding item was included in the bill on the establishment of 11 in July as a memorial day for the Polish victims of the genocide committed by the UPA on Poland’s eastern border. In addition, the draft law provides for the amendment of some existing laws

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[bmv04636]

can we immortalize a birch

[Going]

Quote: bmv04636

can we immortalize a birch

She is already one of our symbols, but the idea is interesting.

[BMP-2]

Boleslav Birch is one of the noble Ukrainian Newbanders. As if during immortalization, then you didn’t have to put stars near each birch with comments that this is supposedly not the “Birch” which is forbidden!

[Going]

Our language is rich, we are able to explain.

[Monos]

On the other hand, we would like it to be a country that regulates my history

What a clear, pristine and unprincipled cynicism this pan has !!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: BMP-2

Boleslav Birch

if boleslav, then it’s already a whiteness !!!

[BMP-2]

Well, as for masochists - then in my opinion the very thing! Although your version is 100% true!

[LSA57]

Quote: bmv04636

can we immortalize a birch

and the memorial in Katyn to level the earth

[izya top]

Quote: LSA57

Quote: bmv04636

can we immortalize a birch

and the memorial in Katyn to level the earth

[Barshchik-M]

Poland behaves very strangely, like during the time of all the Maidan it was different ..?
Or are they preparing to redistribute the outskirts ... They always needed slaves!
But Poland, under the Russian debt was, do not want to back? But everything will be different already ... Touch Ukraine, will deal with Russia!
And this is not a threat to Psheki!

[Smog]

Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M

Poland behaves very strangely, like during the time of all the Maidan it was different ..?

А
Vital! First of all with the Holiday !!!!! You're still alive? And then I'm even not so much !!!!
And about the zheks. All the same, the authorities, and Russophobia they mainly suffer, they are simply afraid of the common people. But among ordinary Poles, the attitude towards Russia and Ukraine is oh, it is ambiguous !!!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M

They always needed slaves!

finally, as it were, the times are not the same .... psheks themselves in slavery ... not so much for them to think about their own slaves !!!!

[Observer2014]

bmv04636

can we immortalize a birch

Personally, I have been talking about this for years

[Smog]

And what is better? In bronze or granite ???
Or maybe in the Strategic Missile Forces, how is Poplar ????? And then you understand the middle zone of Russia, it's a shame .....

[Observer2014]

Smog

And what is better? In bronze or granite ??? /////// And then you understand the middle zone of Russia, it's a shame ....

Here the colleague is the broadest choice! : : One thing I can say for sure. Poles, if they behave badly, will not survive

[Smog]

Quote: Observer2014

Here the colleague is the broadest choice! :

It means all the same in the Strategic Missile Forces ........ Toda for sure ......... will not survive .......

[Observer2014]

Smog

It appears all the same in the Strategic Rocket Forces ....

God forbid! I can solve problems without Strategic Rocket Forces. !!!
It’s possible to solve the issue with the Poles in a simple way. I think 15 Iskander with a nuclear warhead will be enough. Or one and a half Tu 160.

[Smog]

Quote: Observer2014

I think 15 Iskander with a nuclear warhead

And not too much ????? 15 then ????? No, we must still consider that from an economic point of view it is cheaper. ? A pair of Poplars or 15 Iskanders ?????

[Observer2014]

Smog

And not too much ????? 15 then ?????

No. I say so with an easy margin. To be sure. Well, somehow with geography at +5 and what is a tactical nuclear weapon. And why you need to be familiar

[Smog]

Quote: Observer2014

I say so with a light margin.

And where did you see Russian, what would be without gaku ??????

[Observer2014]

Smog

And where did you see the Russian, that would be without gaku??

And this is what ??? Or where ???:
Well, we are thrifty. Or for sure. To if that

[Smog]

:

Quote: Observer2014

And this is what ??? Or where ???

Hack Additive (to the bulk).

Not I said .... In the General Explanatory Dictionary of the Russian language is stated .....

[Primoos]

Fuck Svidomo new ideology, and even from the Poles? They don’t know what to do with the old one. Now they lower it on the nose, then they lick, and things are still there.

[Reserve officer]

Yes, what the hell is the new ideology. What, build a bright future? Industry develop? Become a self-sufficient state?
Not. They steal. Begging. And they lie, they lie and they lie again. All in all. And even to myself. And the changes that the Poles propose are to forget some scum and glorify others of the same kind. Nothing more new.

[DenZ]

Yes, here above there was already the idea that Poland needed all these hints more likely in order to shatter and stomp Ukraine. Well, they will not give up the idea of ​​spoiling their own in the chaos growing in Ukraine (and it is obviously only growing). A rotten product is advised by Poland. The heroization of the ATO veterans will not be in Ukraine (well, it certainly won’t reach the level of ideology) already now the atoshniks often coddle in civilian life, what ideology is there. Yes, and the supporters of Bandera are somehow inaudible. Only dissatisfaction with Rada and Poroshenko. In this situation, comrades go to the next change of power (or chaos). This is where Polish neighbors can take advantage of the situation. And what will we do when we will make another big question.

[stolz]

In my opinion, the question of the relationship between Poles and Ukrainians has been fully disclosed by N.V. Gogol in his immortal work "Taras Bulba", not add, not diminish.

[210ox]

After the name of the cruise ship "Prince Vladimir", the Kakals decided to flood the corvette under construction with a similar name ..

Quote: bmv04636

can we immortalize a birch

[dSK]

The Polish authorities are trying to direct the "aggression" to the east, but the "boomerang" law cannot be repealed.

[pvv113]

Polish Foreign Minister Vitold Waszczikowski says Ukraine should change state ideology

I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

[Midshipman]

And do not need to be heard. Bandera is a source, but at the same time a coffin of Ukraine.

[LSA57]

Quote: Midshipman

And do not need to be heard. Bandera is a source, but at the same time a coffin of Ukraine.

yes she is already there. and this is one of the nails

[Going]

Quote: Midshipman

And do not need to be heard. Bandera is a source, but at the same time a coffin of Ukraine.

Hearing do not hear it does not matter, Ukraine has already passed the point of no return.

[Dym71]

Quote: pvv113

I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

They will never hear, follow the proposed path - it is tantamount to accept that since 1991 Ukraine has gone nowhere!
23 years and 40 million citizens!

[LSA57]

Quote: Dym71

They will never hear, follow the proposed path - it is tantamount to accept that since 1991 Ukraine has gone nowhere!

let it not go, they led. and who didn’t want, dragged

[Dym71]

Quote: LSA57

let it not go, they led. and who didn’t want, dragged

Yes, of course, I'm talking about something else, who admits that he was led or dragged?

[LSA57]

Quote: Dym71

Who admits that he was led or dragged?

and there is collective responsibility. not one dragged. there is someone to blame if that

[Dym71]

Quote: LSA57

and there is collective responsibility.

The collective responsibility of Ukrainians is now measured in billions of dolaria from the IMF = 77 and uphill!

[LSA57]

Quote: Dym71

The collective responsibility of Ukrainians is now measured in billions of dolaria from the IMF = 77 and uphill!

Well, not everyone will give it after all. only favorites. 99,9% of the population

[Dym71]

Quote: LSA57

Well, not everyone will give it after all. only favorites. 99,9% of the population

Sharia look? To this topic:

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Dym71

40 million citizens!

too optimistic figure !!!

[Partyzan]

Quote: pvv113

I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

I can send a sniper - after all, I encroached on the "holy"

[alexmach]

Come on, holy thing, say it too. After all, they are also not shy about giving the Central Administration to Germany now, demanding reparations, and this is for the war that was lost, and you are surprised at his words about Ukraine.

[pvv113]

Happy Holiday, Volodya! For the "sacred" can go to extremes, you're right

[Black sniper]

Yes, let it live on the evil Bandera

[Partyzan]

Quote: Black Sniper

lives on evil Bandera

sensible thought

[Cutter]

Volodya, welcome!

Our message is very clear: you won’t get to Europe with Bandera

the country needs to build its national identity on Heavenly Hundred and the participants in the armed conflict in the Donbass

Poor Poles can’t understand in any way that all of these heavenly hundreds and national battalions are preaching the ideology of Bandera ... well, of robbery, looting and murder!

I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

[bouncyhunter]

Sanya, as I understood Vashchikovsky - Poland is unhappy with the way Ukroreich rewrites History.

[poquello]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Sanya, as I understood Vashchikovsky - Poland is unhappy with the way Ukroreich rewrites History.

more precisely rewrites already rewritten by the Poles

[bouncyhunter]

And the author of the “new rewritten” History is extremely displeased with the fact that someone has already undertaken to rewrite it. It seems that after Trump’s famous visit, when he sang praises of Poland, the delusions of grandeur worsened among the Poles.

[Going]

Quote: bouncyhunter

It seems that after Trump’s famous visit, when he sang praises of Poland, the delusions of grandeur worsened among the Poles.

Their roof was undermined by the fact that they want to appoint their beloved wife.

[bouncyhunter]

And to think about the fact that Matrasia "will die and give up" was not enough umishka?

[Going]

For the sake of five minutes of "glory" are ready for anything.

[Cutter]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Sanya, as I understood Vashchikovsky - Poland is unhappy with the way Ukroreich rewrites History.

Pash, they have such a historical-interethnic VINEGRET that you can write a hundred years! The main thing I think is that we do not climb ...

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Cutter

The main thing I think is that we do not climb ...

But this I would not advise them to do - it is fraught ...

[Smog]

Quote: bouncyhunter

didn't advise them to do -

[bouncyhunter]

And some are also bored, Kostya. This Matserevich is just on camera so brave.

[Smog]

Quote: bouncyhunter

This Matserevich is just on camera so brave.

Pasha! If you attach a barrel to the temple, then neither the diaper nor the camera will help. Everyone is crying ...... Oh, and if the trunk is in a hollow .......... it’s scary to imagine .........

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Smog

Oh, and if the trunk is in a duplicate ..........

But not a bit of an eulogy will be - to dirty his weapons with his personal duplicate?

[Smog]

Quote: bouncyhunter

to dirty his private weapon with his dupes?

To hell! Take the oven in the dash .....

[bouncyhunter]

If so, then it is possible. But just do not grind the front sight!

[Partyzan]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Sanya, as I understood Vashchikovsky - Poland is unhappy with the way Ukroreich rewrites History.

and most importantly - without them

[bouncyhunter]

Volodya, there is such a Russian comedy "Vanka the Terrible." So there one hero said a sacramental phrase: "Would you, Vanya, have tied up drinking ... Without me!" .

[Partyzan]

Quote: bouncyhunter

"Would you tie, Vanya, to drink ... Without me!" .

in

[bouncyhunter]

If you didn’t look, look, you won’t regret it!

[Partyzan]

I'll see, thanks

[Anarchist]

Sasha, in my opinion you’re greeting Volodya for the third time today ... Well, since it’s so established - Namesake, Greetings!

Quote: Cutter

preach the ideology of Bandera ... well, robbery, looting and murder!

Sasha, and in my opinion all the statehood of Ukraine is based on this ...

[Cutter]

Quote: Anarchist

Sasha, in my opinion you’re greeting Volodya for the third time today ... Well, since it’s so established - Namesake, Greetings!

Quote: Cutter

preach the ideology of Bandera ... well, robbery, looting and murder!

Sasha, and in my opinion all the statehood of Ukraine is based on this ...

Sanya, I’m saying hello to another Volodya, but anyway hello again!
And on the topic - yes, they have such statehood ...

[Partyzan]

Quote: Anarchist

Sasha, I think you're greeting Volodya for the third time today today ..

enviously - yes?

[LSA57]

Quote: Cutter

Poor Poles cannot understand in any way that all these heavenly hundreds and national battalions are preaching the ideology of Bandera ..

Yes, they all understand perfectly. here you feel like it and it’s pricking. and against Russia to be friends, but Bandera interferes

[pvv113]

Happy Holiday, Alexander! The Poles are in a deep dead end - it seems like you need to be friends with dill, but they don’t even accept the bandar

[LSA57]

Quote: pvv113

I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

hear, but do the opposite. their nature is such, they quarrel with neighbors, and look for “friends” behind a puddle

[pvv113]

Make the “meshes” of their vassals reconcile

[LSA57]

Quote: pvv113

Make the “meshes” of their vassals reconcile

hardly. they spat on the outskirts. Psheks themselves will deal with it

[pvv113]

Spit, but not really. The question of the supply of weapons is in question (I apologize for the tautology), and the American pins are constantly in charge of the 404th

[Solomon Kane]

that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

They will hear, Volodya, if you knock harder, moreover, with the butt of a machine gun ....

[pvv113]

No, Kostya, they will not get to the automatic butt - the owner will not allow

[Solomon Kane]

.... it’s time to knock us already .... The topic is already really sick of it .....

[pvv113]

I can not disagree with you, the topic sits like a lump in the throat

[Smog]

Quote: Solomon Kane

if you knock harder, with the butt of the machine ....

Namesake! Do you think you’ll get butt? Maybe the harder, so to speak, for reliability. ? What would immediately ...... ?????

[Anarchist]

Quote: Solomon Kane

that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

They will hear, Volodya, if you knock harder, moreover, with the butt of a machine gun ....

Then they will not be able to understand what they heard!
'' the law is not written for fools! If it is written, then it is not read ... If it is read, then I do not understand ... If not, then it is not so! ''
Kostya, Greetings!

[Livonetc]

In Psheksky, the new symbol of kraino-identity is a buzzy nat cyborg with a pan on its head.

[BMP-2]

And as I understand it, they want Ukraine with its "heroes" to follow the "heavenly hundred"!

[Vasyan1971]

"... Of course, with Germany everything is not so perfect ..."
Kaneshna! It’s not possible to deny a shake so far, but “great progress” is expected.
And we will see - whether the Ukrainian will once again bend under the gentry, whether his song will go down his throat for the sake of recognizing his "truth as the European knight".

[BMP-2]

And how did Skakshaschavilli react to this toast? After all, it was the Poles who contributed to the "return of the prodigal parrot" ...

[loginovich]

As I understand it, they changed their older brother. This is the revolution of hydidity.

[Antares]

Quote: loginovich

As I understand it, they changed their older brother. This is the revolution of hydidity.

yes, the relationship with the new "big brother" was and remains exactly the same as before. In terms of a showdown on the topic, Poles / Ukrainians who cut more than anyone.
A grater about the "heroes" for a long time.
Here, one should add several topics regarding the property of churches and houses, regarding the desecration of Ukrainian monuments (For three years, 15 Ukrainian monuments were desecrated in Poland. Not a single monument was restored. During the same period, vandals in Ukraine damaged four Polish monuments, all were restored at the expense of the Ukrainian side).
Summarizing in politics and economics, Ukraine-Poland relations are relatively normal. In the field of historical heritage is a conflict.

[Romanenko]

And in my opinion that the owl is about a stump, that we’re kicking an owl, radish horseradish is not sweeter ...
There were people, they became nonhumans, not all of course, but that’s why she had power, so as to get scolded.
Do not listen to the Poles, the Poles have always been enemies of Russia and Ukraine, this is when it was still written with a capital letter.
Come back, accept. Where are you from us and to us from you ???

[anjey]

Our message is very clear: you won’t get to Europe with Bandera

c Soviet soldier-liberator of this Europe, too, and you get with child murderers and destroyers of peaceful houses-ATO bandits ??? Who needs such a Europe of inadequate, bloody-minded thinking ... well-fed, well-fed, rich, but sickly and with inferiority complexes in relation to Russia ... I don’t know where Ukraine will fall into, it’s more like a drain, and the Debeareans with their senile policies can wait for the next the advent of Russia in revenge for the aggression of NATO and the United States on its territory ...

[Egorovich]

That the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Pshekia, that the Minister of Defense of the same state from one clan IDIOTS. No more, no less. Heavenly hundred pan-heads are very cool.

[XXXIII]

Polish President Duda called on the Ukrainian leadership not to appoint persons with anti-Polish views to high posts.

The Poles are starting to merge an independent ...... http://ipress.ua/ru/news/duda_sovetuet_poroshenko
_ne_naznachat_na_visokye_dolzhnosty_lyts_s_antypo
lskymy_vzglyadamy_232843.html

[samarin1969]

The Poles have grown territory, drove the Germans. It’s not enough for them .... They dream of dividing Russia, Belarus ... That’s the whole ideology of the "Young Frontists" .... Ukraine has been following the same path for 25 years ...

[Smog]

bouncyhunter,
bouncyhunter,
A fly? To stoke? Yes God forbid ..... Boil to an indecent size ....... and ...... crank in front of the control ......

[stolz]

Quote: Going

Hearing do not hear it does not matter, Ukraine has already passed the point of no return.

What kind of panic mood? Compared to Hitler Germany, Ukraine is the younger group of kindergarten, and the Germans were re-educated so that they still cannot recover

[faterdom]

Yeah, smarty! He suggested that Bandera-ATO workers consider themselves not Bandera! What's the point ?! What then do they actually fight for? And why in the Donbass they were beaten and will be beaten?
Somehow the Poles did not think of how to recognize the authors of the Volyn massacre as victims ...

[Kondratko]

Vashchikovsky said that Ukraine should change the state ideology and abandon the heroization of the Ukrainian rebel army (UPA, OUN-UPA - banned in Russia). According to him, the national identity of the country should be built on Heavenly Hundred and the participants in the armed conflict in the Donbass

Vashchikovsky dol ... b (not a smart person), he just changes hu to hu, "good" are the same fascists, only seventy years later, the only difference is that they killed Psheks then, and today they kill their own people and Russian, and Dung hundreds - a bunch of young people who gave their lives no news for what, for - cookies and other people's dirty interests. Ideology ...
He thinks that he will thereby divert the threat of interethnic conflict between the Poles and the Kohl? - The wind is blowing in different directions, today it is blowing to the east, and tomorrow it will turn back to the west, therefore, an ideology based on Nazism should be burned out with a hot iron, and not make it a “base”.

[Viktor is the winner]

The ideology of Ukraine does not fit into the norms of morality and ethics and the norms of international law, these erroneous values ​​and heroes are introduced into the consciousness of the Ukrainian people as reinforced concrete piles in the foundation of a multi-storey building. So you will not absorb (especially young people) into your consciousness behavioral attitudes that are destructive in relation to a Russian-speaking person, with all the ensuing consequences, as they say "until the last Ukrainian." But Pshekam will not break off anything from the territory of the ruin, for a long time it will rot, a lot of water will leak during this time. The main thing is that our people do not spoil the necessary moments for appropriate actions, no matter, defensive, defensive, offensive.

[LeonidL]

Bandyuk bandyuk teaches ideology - not even funny.

[demo]

On the other hand, we would like it to be a country that regulates its history, solves problems that happened many years ago.
- said the head of the foreign ministry.

Why is it philosophizing crafty!
It must be said simply.
Take from your rather simple (to put it mildly) history such facts that we (Europeans, pah on you) will not cause any negative associations forward, and forth!
If earlier we had such a slogan - we say the party, we mean Lenin.
That in the Ukrainian interpretation will sound like this - we say Heavenly Hundred, but we mean Bandera.

[Karayakupovo]

And the fact that the “heroes” of the ATO and the “heavenly hundred” are the same Bandera, so the Psheks themselves will not be happy.

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

we would like it to be a country that regulates its history

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M

They always needed slaves!

finally, as it were, the times are not the same .... psheks themselves in slavery ... not so much for them to think about their own slaves !!!!

But the slave does not think about freedom, the slave thinks about his own slaves. (C)