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Polish Foreign Minister came up with a new ideology for Ukraine

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Polish Foreign Minister Vitold Vashchikovsky said that Ukraine should change the state ideology and abandon the glorification of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA, OUN-UPA - banned in Russia). According to him, the national identity of the country should be built on the Heavenly Hundred and the participants of the armed conflict in the Donbass, Polish media reported


We turn to Ukraine and say: "Let's deal with history Together, through dialogue, let's create joint tools, as was the case with the Germans. "Of course, with Germany, things are not so perfect, but this has led to great progress
- noted Vashchikovsky.

Polish Foreign Minister came up with a new ideology for Ukraine


He added that Warsaw would like to see Ukraine friendly, democratic, holistic, indivisible.

On the other hand, we would like it to be a country that regulates its history, solves problems that happened many years ago.
- said the head of the foreign ministry.

In early July, the head of the Polish Foreign Ministry said that Warsaw will be against Ukraine’s integration into the EU until the two countries resolve historical disputes and issues of the Polish minority:

Worst of all, the situation [in relations between Ukraine and Poland], of course, in historical matters. Our message is very clear: you will not get to Europe with Bandera


Earlier, the Polish Peasant Party proposed to introduce criminal liability for the promotion of OUN-UPA *. The corresponding item was included in the bill on the establishment of 11 in July as a memorial day for the Polish victims of the genocide committed by the UPA on Poland’s eastern border. In addition, the draft law provides for the amendment of some existing laws
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  1. bmv04636
    bmv04636 7 November 2017 19: 28 New
    +5
    can we immortalize a birch
    1. Going
      Going 7 November 2017 19: 30 New
      14
      Quote: bmv04636
      can we immortalize a birch


      She is already one of our symbols, but the idea is interesting.
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 7 November 2017 19: 55 New
        10
        Boleslav Birch is one of the noble Ukrainian Newbanders. As if during immortalization, then you didn’t have to put stars near each birch with comments that this is supposedly not the “Birch” which is forbidden! lol
        1. Going
          Going 7 November 2017 20: 05 New
          11
          Our language is rich, we are able to explain.
          1. Monos
            Monos 7 November 2017 21: 18 New
            +6
            On the other hand, we would like it to be a country that regulates my history

            What a clear, pristine and unprincipled cynicism this pan has !!!
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 02: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: BMP-2
          Boleslav Birch

          if boleslav, then it’s already a whiteness !!! laughing laughing laughing
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 8 November 2017 02: 49 New
            +3
            Well, as for masochists - then in my opinion the very thing! laughing Although your version is 100% true! yes
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    3. LSA57
      LSA57 7 November 2017 19: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: bmv04636
      can we immortalize a birch

      and the memorial in Katyn to level the earth
      1. izya top
        izya top 8 November 2017 03: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: bmv04636
        can we immortalize a birch

        and the memorial in Katyn to level the earth

    4. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 7 November 2017 19: 50 New
      +5
      Poland behaves very strangely, like during the time of all the Maidan it was different ..?
      Or are they preparing to redistribute the outskirts ... They always needed slaves!
      But Poland, under the Russian debt was, do not want to back? But everything will be different already ... Touch Ukraine, will deal with Russia! soldier
      And this is not a threat to Psheki!
      1. Smog
        Smog 7 November 2017 20: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
        Poland behaves very strangely, like during the time of all the Maidan it was different ..?

        А
        Vital! First of all with the Holiday !!!!! You're still alive? And then I'm even not so much !!!!
        And about the zheks. All the same, the authorities, and Russophobia they mainly suffer, they are simply afraid of the common people. But among ordinary Poles, the attitude towards Russia and Ukraine is oh, it is ambiguous !!!! drinks soldier
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 02: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
        They always needed slaves!

        what what what finally, as it were, the times are not the same .... psheks themselves in slavery ... not so much for them to think about their own slaves !!!! tongue wassat laughing laughing laughing
    5. Observer2014
      Observer2014 7 November 2017 20: 05 New
      +7
      bmv04636
      can we immortalize a birch
      Personally, I have been talking about this for years repeat
      1. Smog
        Smog 7 November 2017 20: 24 New
        +3
        And what is better? In bronze or granite ???
        Or maybe in the Strategic Missile Forces, how is Poplar ????? And then you understand the middle zone of Russia, it's a shame ..... laughing
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 7 November 2017 20: 49 New
          +4
          Smog
          And what is better? In bronze or granite ??? /////// And then you understand the middle zone of Russia, it's a shame ....
          Here the colleague is the broadest choice! : repeat : One thing I can say for sure. Poles, if they behave badly, will not survive crying
          1. Smog
            Smog 7 November 2017 21: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: Observer2014
            Here the colleague is the broadest choice! :

            It means all the same in the Strategic Missile Forces ........ Toda for sure ......... will not survive .......
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 7 November 2017 21: 14 New
              +3
              Smog
              It appears all the same in the Strategic Rocket Forces ....
              God forbid! I can solve problems without Strategic Rocket Forces. !!!
              It’s possible to solve the issue with the Poles in a simple way. I think 15 Iskander with a nuclear warhead will be enough. yes Or one and a half Tu 160. repeat
              1. Smog
                Smog 7 November 2017 21: 20 New
                +2
                Quote: Observer2014
                I think 15 Iskander with a nuclear warhead

                And not too much ????? 15 then ????? No, we must still consider that from an economic point of view it is cheaper. ? A pair of Poplars or 15 Iskanders ?????
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 7 November 2017 21: 25 New
                  +3
                  Smog hi
                  And not too much ????? 15 then ?????
                  No. I say so with an easy margin. To be sure. Well, somehow with geography at +5 and what is a tactical nuclear weapon. And why you need to be familiar bully
                  1. Smog
                    Smog 7 November 2017 21: 27 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    I say so with a light margin.

                    And where did you see Russian, what would be without gaku ??????
                    1. Observer2014
                      Observer2014 7 November 2017 21: 30 New
                      +3
                      Smog
                      And where did you see the Russian, that would be without gaku??
                      And this is what ??? Or where ???: wassat
                      Well, we are thrifty. Or for sure. To if that laughing
                      1. Smog
                        Smog 7 November 2017 21: 34 New
                        0
                        :
                        Quote: Observer2014
                        And this is what ??? Or where ???

                        Hack Additive (to the bulk).

                        Not I said .... In the General Explanatory Dictionary of the Russian language is stated ..... request
    6. Primoos
      Primoos 7 November 2017 20: 29 New
      +5
      Fuck Svidomo new ideology, and even from the Poles? They don’t know what to do with the old one. Now they lower it on the nose, then they lick, and things are still there.
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 7 November 2017 21: 30 New
        +3
        Yes, what the hell is the new ideology. What, build a bright future? Industry develop? Become a self-sufficient state?
        Not. They steal. Begging. And they lie, they lie and they lie again. All in all. And even to myself. And the changes that the Poles propose are to forget some scum and glorify others of the same kind. Nothing more new.
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 7 November 2017 22: 51 New
          0
          Yes, here above there was already the idea that Poland needed all these hints more likely in order to shatter and stomp Ukraine. Well, they will not give up the idea of ​​spoiling their own in the chaos growing in Ukraine (and it is obviously only growing). A rotten product is advised by Poland. The heroization of the ATO veterans will not be in Ukraine (well, it certainly won’t reach the level of ideology) already now the atoshniks often coddle in civilian life, what ideology is there. Yes, and the supporters of Bandera are somehow inaudible. Only dissatisfaction with Rada and Poroshenko. In this situation, comrades go to the next change of power (or chaos). This is where Polish neighbors can take advantage of the situation. And what will we do when we will make another big question.
    7. stolz
      stolz 7 November 2017 21: 28 New
      +3
      In my opinion, the question of the relationship between Poles and Ukrainians has been fully disclosed by N.V. Gogol in his immortal work "Taras Bulba", not add, not diminish.
    8. 210ox
      210ox 7 November 2017 21: 31 New
      +1
      After the name of the cruise ship "Prince Vladimir", the Kakals decided to flood the corvette under construction with a similar name .. wassat
      Quote: bmv04636
      can we immortalize a birch
    9. dSK
      dSK 8 November 2017 04: 41 New
      +3
      The Polish authorities are trying to direct the "aggression" to the east, but the "boomerang" law cannot be repealed.
  2. pvv113
    pvv113 7 November 2017 19: 29 New
    +5
    Polish Foreign Minister Vitold Waszczikowski says Ukraine should change state ideology

    I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman 7 November 2017 19: 36 New
      +4
      And do not need to be heard. Bandera is a source, but at the same time a coffin of Ukraine.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 7 November 2017 19: 49 New
        +6
        Quote: Midshipman
        And do not need to be heard. Bandera is a source, but at the same time a coffin of Ukraine.

        yes she is already there. and this is one of the nails
        1. Going
          Going 7 November 2017 19: 57 New
          11
          Quote: Midshipman
          And do not need to be heard. Bandera is a source, but at the same time a coffin of Ukraine.


          Hearing do not hear it does not matter, Ukraine has already passed the point of no return.
    2. Dym71
      Dym71 7 November 2017 19: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: pvv113
      I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

      They will never hear, follow the proposed path - it is tantamount to accept that since 1991 Ukraine has gone nowhere! hi
      23 years and 40 million citizens! wink
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 7 November 2017 19: 50 New
        +5
        Quote: Dym71
        They will never hear, follow the proposed path - it is tantamount to accept that since 1991 Ukraine has gone nowhere!

        let it not go, they led. and who didn’t want, dragged
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 7 November 2017 20: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: LSA57
          let it not go, they led. and who didn’t want, dragged

          Yes, of course, I'm talking about something else, who admits that he was led or dragged?
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 7 November 2017 20: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: Dym71
            Who admits that he was led or dragged?

            and there is collective responsibility. not one dragged. there is someone to blame if that
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 7 November 2017 21: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: LSA57
              and there is collective responsibility.

              The collective responsibility of Ukrainians is now measured in billions of dolaria from the IMF = 77 and uphill! yes
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 7 November 2017 21: 18 New
                +2
                Quote: Dym71
                The collective responsibility of Ukrainians is now measured in billions of dolaria from the IMF = 77 and uphill!

                Well, not everyone will give it after all. only favorites. 99,9% of the population laughing
                1. Dym71
                  Dym71 7 November 2017 21: 21 New
                  0
                  Quote: LSA57
                  Well, not everyone will give it after all. only favorites. 99,9% of the population

                  Sharia look? To this topic:
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 02: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Dym71
        40 million citizens!

        what what too optimistic figure !!! wink laughing laughing laughing laughing
    3. Partyzan
      Partyzan 7 November 2017 19: 37 New
      +8
      Quote: pvv113
      I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

      I can send a sniper - after all, I encroached on the "holy" laughing
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 7 November 2017 20: 12 New
        +4
        Come on, holy thing, say it too. After all, they are also not shy about giving the Central Administration to Germany now, demanding reparations, and this is for the war that was lost, and you are surprised at his words about Ukraine.
      2. pvv113
        pvv113 7 November 2017 20: 16 New
        +2
        Happy Holiday, Volodya! For the "sacred" can go to extremes, you're right
      3. Black sniper
        Black sniper 7 November 2017 20: 23 New
        +1
        Yes, let it live on the evil Bandera hi
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 7 November 2017 21: 19 New
          +5
          Quote: Black Sniper
          lives on evil Bandera

          sensible thought good
    4. Cutter
      Cutter 7 November 2017 19: 38 New
      11
      Volodya, welcome! hi
      Our message is very clear: you won’t get to Europe with Bandera

      the country needs to build its national identity on Heavenly Hundred and the participants in the armed conflict in the Donbass

      Poor Poles can’t understand in any way that all of these heavenly hundreds and national battalions are preaching the ideology of Bandera ... well, of robbery, looting and murder! yes
      I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 19: 44 New
        +7
        Sanya, as I understood Vashchikovsky - Poland is unhappy with the way Ukroreich rewrites History. yes
        1. poquello
          poquello 7 November 2017 19: 54 New
          +2
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Sanya, as I understood Vashchikovsky - Poland is unhappy with the way Ukroreich rewrites History. yes

          more precisely rewrites already rewritten by the Poles
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 20: 13 New
            +7
            hi And the author of the “new rewritten” History is extremely displeased with the fact that someone has already undertaken to rewrite it. It seems that after Trump’s famous visit, when he sang praises of Poland, the delusions of grandeur worsened among the Poles.
            1. Going
              Going 7 November 2017 20: 22 New
              +9
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              It seems that after Trump’s famous visit, when he sang praises of Poland, the delusions of grandeur worsened among the Poles.


              Their roof was undermined by the fact that they want to appoint their beloved wife.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 20: 25 New
                +4
                And to think about the fact that Matrasia "will die and give up" was not enough umishka? fool
                1. Going
                  Going 7 November 2017 20: 26 New
                  10
                  For the sake of five minutes of "glory" are ready for anything.
        2. Cutter
          Cutter 7 November 2017 19: 55 New
          +9
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Sanya, as I understood Vashchikovsky - Poland is unhappy with the way Ukroreich rewrites History. yes

          Pash, they have such a historical-interethnic VINEGRET belay that you can write a hundred years! The main thing I think is that we do not climb ... stop
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 20: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: Cutter
            The main thing I think is that we do not climb ...

            But this I would not advise them to do - it is fraught ... negative
            1. Smog
              Smog 7 November 2017 20: 29 New
              +2
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              didn't advise them to do -



              good soldier
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 20: 31 New
                +3
                And some are also bored, Kostya. This Matserevich is just on camera so brave. lol
                1. Smog
                  Smog 7 November 2017 20: 34 New
                  +2
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  This Matserevich is just on camera so brave.

                  Pasha! If you attach a barrel to the temple, then neither the diaper nor the camera will help. Everyone is crying ...... Oh, and if the trunk is in a hollow .......... it’s scary to imagine ......... laughing
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 20: 45 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Smog
                    Oh, and if the trunk is in a duplicate ..........

                    But not a bit of an eulogy will be - to dirty his weapons with his personal duplicate? negative
                    1. Smog
                      Smog 7 November 2017 21: 12 New
                      +1
                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      to dirty his private weapon with his dupes?

                      To hell! Take the oven in the dash .....
                      1. bouncyhunter
                        bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 21: 16 New
                        +2
                        If so, then it is possible. But just do not grind the front sight! bully
        3. Partyzan
          Partyzan 7 November 2017 21: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Sanya, as I understood Vashchikovsky - Poland is unhappy with the way Ukroreich rewrites History. yes

          and most importantly - without them laughing
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 21: 10 New
            +2
            Volodya, there is such a Russian comedy "Vanka the Terrible." So there one hero said a sacramental phrase: "Would you, Vanya, have tied up drinking ... Without me!" . lol
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 7 November 2017 21: 12 New
              +4
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              "Would you tie, Vanya, to drink ... Without me!" .

              in good drinks
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 21: 17 New
                +2
                If you didn’t look, look, you won’t regret it! yes drinks
                1. Partyzan
                  Partyzan 7 November 2017 21: 20 New
                  +4
                  I'll see, thanks good
      2. Anarchist
        Anarchist 7 November 2017 19: 47 New
        11
        Sasha, in my opinion you’re greeting Volodya for the third time today ... Well, since it’s so established - Namesake, Greetings!
        Quote: Cutter
        preach the ideology of Bandera ... well, robbery, looting and murder!

        Sasha, and in my opinion all the statehood of Ukraine is based on this ...
        1. Cutter
          Cutter 7 November 2017 20: 00 New
          +8
          Quote: Anarchist
          Sasha, in my opinion you’re greeting Volodya for the third time today ... Well, since it’s so established - Namesake, Greetings!
          Quote: Cutter
          preach the ideology of Bandera ... well, robbery, looting and murder!

          Sasha, and in my opinion all the statehood of Ukraine is based on this ...

          Sanya, I’m saying hello to another Volodya, but anyway hello again! hi
          And on the topic - yes, they have such statehood ... am
        2. Partyzan
          Partyzan 7 November 2017 21: 21 New
          +4
          Quote: Anarchist
          Sasha, I think you're greeting Volodya for the third time today today ..

          enviously - yes? laughing drinks
      3. LSA57
        LSA57 7 November 2017 19: 53 New
        +7
        Quote: Cutter
        Poor Poles cannot understand in any way that all these heavenly hundreds and national battalions are preaching the ideology of Bandera ..

        Yes, they all understand perfectly. here you feel like it and it’s pricking. and against Russia to be friends, but Bandera interferes
      4. pvv113
        pvv113 7 November 2017 20: 25 New
        +3
        Happy Holiday, Alexander! The Poles are in a deep dead end - it seems like you need to be friends with dill, but they don’t even accept the bandar
    5. LSA57
      LSA57 7 November 2017 19: 48 New
      +5
      Quote: pvv113
      I doubt that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

      hear, but do the opposite. their nature is such, they quarrel with neighbors, and look for “friends” behind a puddle
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 7 November 2017 20: 28 New
        +4
        Make the “meshes” of their vassals reconcile
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 7 November 2017 20: 53 New
          +4
          Quote: pvv113
          Make the “meshes” of their vassals reconcile

          hardly. they spat on the outskirts. Psheks themselves will deal with it
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 7 November 2017 20: 57 New
            +3
            Spit, but not really. The question of the supply of weapons is in question (I apologize for the tautology), and the American pins are constantly in charge of the 404th
    6. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 7 November 2017 20: 10 New
      10
      that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

      They will hear, Volodya, if you knock harder, moreover, with the butt of a machine gun ....
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 7 November 2017 20: 30 New
        +4
        No, Kostya, they will not get to the automatic butt - the owner will not allow
        1. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 7 November 2017 20: 32 New
          +9
          .... it’s time to knock us already .... The topic is already really sick of it .....
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 7 November 2017 20: 33 New
            +4
            I can not disagree with you, the topic sits like a lump in the throat
      2. Smog
        Smog 7 November 2017 20: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: Solomon Kane
        if you knock harder, with the butt of the machine ....

        Namesake! Do you think you’ll get butt? Maybe the harder, so to speak, for reliability. ? What would immediately ...... ?????
      3. Anarchist
        Anarchist 7 November 2017 20: 39 New
        12
        Quote: Solomon Kane
        that under the current government in Ukraine, someone will hear him

        They will hear, Volodya, if you knock harder, moreover, with the butt of a machine gun ....

        Then they will not be able to understand what they heard!
        '' the law is not written for fools! If it is written, then it is not read ... If it is read, then I do not understand ... If not, then it is not so! ''
        Kostya, Greetings!
  3. Livonetc
    Livonetc 7 November 2017 19: 47 New
    +3
    In Psheksky, the new symbol of kraino-identity is a buzzy nat cyborg with a pan on its head.
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 7 November 2017 19: 59 New
      +5
      And as I understand it, they want Ukraine with its "heroes" to follow the "heavenly hundred"! laughing
  4. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 7 November 2017 19: 56 New
    +1
    "... Of course, with Germany everything is not so perfect ..."
    Kaneshna! It’s not possible to deny a shake so far, but “great progress” is expected.
    And we will see - whether the Ukrainian will once again bend under the gentry, whether his song will go down his throat for the sake of recognizing his "truth as the European knight".
  5. BMP-2
    BMP-2 7 November 2017 20: 01 New
    +3
    And how did Skakshaschavilli react to this toast? repeat lol After all, it was the Poles who contributed to the "return of the prodigal parrot" ... winked
  6. loginovich
    loginovich 7 November 2017 20: 04 New
    0
    As I understand it, they changed their older brother. This is the revolution of hydidity.
    1. Antares
      Antares 7 November 2017 20: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: loginovich
      As I understand it, they changed their older brother. This is the revolution of hydidity.

      yes, the relationship with the new "big brother" was and remains exactly the same as before. In terms of a showdown on the topic, Poles / Ukrainians who cut more than anyone.
      A grater about the "heroes" for a long time.
      Here, one should add several topics regarding the property of churches and houses, regarding the desecration of Ukrainian monuments (For three years, 15 Ukrainian monuments were desecrated in Poland. Not a single monument was restored. During the same period, vandals in Ukraine damaged four Polish monuments, all were restored at the expense of the Ukrainian side).
      Summarizing in politics and economics, Ukraine-Poland relations are relatively normal. In the field of historical heritage is a conflict.
  7. Romanenko
    Romanenko 7 November 2017 20: 06 New
    0
    And in my opinion that the owl is about a stump, that we’re kicking an owl, radish horseradish is not sweeter ...
    There were people, they became nonhumans, not all of course, but that’s why she had power, so as to get scolded.
    Do not listen to the Poles, the Poles have always been enemies of Russia and Ukraine, this is when it was still written with a capital letter.
    Come back, accept. Where are you from us and to us from you ???
  8. anjey
    anjey 7 November 2017 20: 09 New
    +2
    Our message is very clear: you won’t get to Europe with Bandera
    c Soviet soldier-liberator of this Europe, too, and you get with child murderers and destroyers of peaceful houses-ATO bandits ??? Who needs such a Europe of inadequate, bloody-minded thinking ... well-fed, well-fed, rich, but sickly and with inferiority complexes in relation to Russia ... I don’t know where Ukraine will fall into, it’s more like a drain, and the Debeareans with their senile policies can wait for the next the advent of Russia in revenge for the aggression of NATO and the United States on its territory ...
  9. Egorovich
    Egorovich 7 November 2017 20: 19 New
    +5
    That the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Pshekia, that the Minister of Defense of the same state from one clan IDIOTS. No more, no less. Heavenly hundred pan-heads are very cool.
  10. XXXIII
    XXXIII 7 November 2017 20: 26 New
    +1
    Polish President Duda called on the Ukrainian leadership not to appoint persons with anti-Polish views to high posts.
    The Poles are starting to merge an independent ...... laughing http://ipress.ua/ru/news/duda_sovetuet_poroshenko
    _ne_naznachat_na_visokye_dolzhnosty_lyts_s_antypo
    lskymy_vzglyadamy_232843.html
  11. samarin1969
    samarin1969 7 November 2017 20: 50 New
    +1
    The Poles have grown territory, drove the Germans. It’s not enough for them .... They dream of dividing Russia, Belarus ... That’s the whole ideology of the "Young Frontists" .... Ukraine has been following the same path for 25 years ...
  12. Smog
    Smog 7 November 2017 21: 22 New
    0
    bouncyhunter,
    bouncyhunter,
    A fly? To stoke? Yes God forbid ..... Boil to an indecent size ....... and ...... crank in front of the control ...... lol
  13. stolz
    stolz 7 November 2017 21: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Going
    Hearing do not hear it does not matter, Ukraine has already passed the point of no return.

    What kind of panic mood? Compared to Hitler Germany, Ukraine is the younger group of kindergarten, and the Germans were re-educated so that they still cannot recover
  14. faterdom
    faterdom 8 November 2017 01: 17 New
    +2
    Yeah, smarty! He suggested that Bandera-ATO workers consider themselves not Bandera! What's the point ?! What then do they actually fight for? And why in the Donbass they were beaten and will be beaten?
    Somehow the Poles did not think of how to recognize the authors of the Volyn massacre as victims ...
  15. Kondratko
    Kondratko 8 November 2017 01: 56 New
    +1
    Vashchikovsky said that Ukraine should change the state ideology and abandon the heroization of the Ukrainian rebel army (UPA, OUN-UPA - banned in Russia). According to him, the national identity of the country should be built on Heavenly Hundred and the participants in the armed conflict in the Donbass

    Vashchikovsky dol ... b (not a smart person), he just changes hu to hu, "good" are the same fascists, only seventy years later, the only difference is that they killed Psheks then, and today they kill their own people and Russian, and Dung hundreds - a bunch of young people who gave their lives no news for what, for - cookies and other people's dirty interests. Ideology ...
    He thinks that he will thereby divert the threat of interethnic conflict between the Poles and the Kohl? - The wind is blowing in different directions, today it is blowing to the east, and tomorrow it will turn back to the west, therefore, an ideology based on Nazism should be burned out with a hot iron, and not make it a “base”.
  16. Viktor is the winner
    Viktor is the winner 8 November 2017 03: 08 New
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    The ideology of Ukraine does not fit into the norms of morality and ethics and the norms of international law, these erroneous values ​​and heroes are introduced into the consciousness of the Ukrainian people as reinforced concrete piles in the foundation of a multi-storey building. So you will not absorb (especially young people) into your consciousness behavioral attitudes that are destructive in relation to a Russian-speaking person, with all the ensuing consequences, as they say "until the last Ukrainian." But Pshekam will not break off anything from the territory of the ruin, for a long time it will rot, a lot of water will leak during this time. The main thing is that our people do not spoil the necessary moments for appropriate actions, no matter, defensive, defensive, offensive.
  17. LeonidL
    LeonidL 8 November 2017 03: 24 New
    +1
    Bandyuk bandyuk teaches ideology - not even funny.
  18. demo
    demo 8 November 2017 06: 43 New
    +1
    On the other hand, we would like it to be a country that regulates its history, solves problems that happened many years ago.
    - said the head of the foreign ministry.

    Why is it philosophizing crafty!
    It must be said simply.
    Take from your rather simple (to put it mildly) history such facts that we (Europeans, pah on you) will not cause any negative associations forward, and forth!
    If earlier we had such a slogan - we say the party, we mean Lenin.
    That in the Ukrainian interpretation will sound like this - we say Heavenly Hundred, but we mean Bandera.
  19. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 8 November 2017 07: 40 New
    +1
    And the fact that the “heroes” of the ATO and the “heavenly hundred” are the same Bandera, so the Psheks themselves will not be happy.
  20. Fkjydjckfrgh
    Fkjydjckfrgh 8 November 2017 08: 22 New
    +1
    we would like it to be a country that regulates its history
    laughing laughing good laughing
  21. Fkjydjckfrgh
    Fkjydjckfrgh 8 November 2017 08: 30 New
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    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
    They always needed slaves!

    what what what finally, as it were, the times are not the same .... psheks themselves in slavery ... not so much for them to think about their own slaves !!!! tongue wassat laughing laughing laughing

    But the slave does not think about freedom, the slave thinks about his own slaves. (C)