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Syrian installations of the C-200 air defense system remained intact after the strike by the Israeli Air Force

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The Syrian C-200VE Vega-E complex, which attacked the latest Israeli fighter-bomber F-35 in the sky over Lebanon, was not destroyed by retaliatory strike, reports Messenger of Mordovia.


Syrian installations of the C-200 air defense system remained intact after the strike by the Israeli Air Force


This, in particular, is indicated by military experts, who studied in detail the satellite images of the positions of the 16-th air defense brigade located on the Internet near Dumeyr airbase in the Damascus area that appeared on the Internet.



“Apparently, all launchers remained safe and sound. Perhaps the enemy managed to damage the antenna post with radar target illumination. But no more than that. In any case, talk about total destruction is not necessary. The Syrian army can restore full combat effectiveness of this unit in a fairly short time. That, for sure, has already happened at the present time, ”writes the author of the article, Lev Romanov.



Despite its age, these anti-aircraft missile systems are still capable of delivering a lot of trouble to potential aggressors, he concludes.
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      1. Going
        Going 7 November 2017 13: 29 New
        13
        He just got lost and his number is appropriate.
      2. Pivot
        Pivot 7 November 2017 15: 26 New
        0
        Yes, the PUs themselves are nothing without a radar, and if there is an invasion of the ATS these installations will not last long, Libya is a good example of this.
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    3. Maz
      Maz 7 November 2017 13: 44 New
      +1
      Immortal chtoli? Or nine lives?
    4. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 7 November 2017 14: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: seat9969
      Again, children are miraculous fairy tales ..... vib ische half a year after the impact said that everything is fine .....

      And what is wrong. The Syrians are doing well. So everything is in order.
    5. Yujanin.
      Yujanin. 7 November 2017 15: 34 New
      0
      again, children are miraculous fairy tales ..... vib ische half a year after the impact said that everything is fine ...

      Perhaps there was an Israeli strike on inflatable complexes.
    6. utyutkin
      utyutkin 7 November 2017 16: 30 New
      +3
      it’s someone else’s fairy tale :) I’ll remind you initially someone claimed that f 35 is invisible and that they aren’t visible at all :) but in fact it turned out that for invisibility it was necessary to shoot at s-200 :)
  2. Egorovich
    Egorovich 7 November 2017 13: 13 New
    12
    From the reading above it follows that the Syrian birds, as the Jewish F-35 pecked, will peck with the same success. Well, very nice birds !!!
    1. forester
      forester 7 November 2017 13: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: Egorovich
      From the reading above it follows that the Syrian birds, as the Jewish F-35 pecked, will peck with the same success. Well, very nice birds !!!

      That's just a pity they didn’t bring down, but someone’s confidence in the invisibility of this “super” was clearly shaken)))
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 7 November 2017 14: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Egorovich
      From the reading above it follows that the Syrian birds, as the Jewish F-35 pecked, will peck with the same success. Well, very nice birds !!!

      Wonderful.
    3. PalBor
      PalBor 7 November 2017 14: 14 New
      +9
      Yes, yes, remember the reports of the collision of the F-35 with the Syrian sparrow laughing
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 7 November 2017 14: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: PalBor
        Yes, yes, remember the reports of the collision of the F-35 with the Syrian sparrow laughing

        Exactly. No other way.
  3. Eurodav
    Eurodav 7 November 2017 13: 16 New
    +1
    And what do universal know-it-alls tell us?
    How is it to get the Messenger of Mordovia on an impudent person .....?
  4. Professor
    Professor 7 November 2017 13: 20 New
    16
    In any case, there is no need to talk about total destruction.

    And who spoke of total annihilation? Anyway, the news was almost a month late. The fact that the bombed radar was restored within a few days has already been reported. Although, on the other hand, news does not reach Mordovia quickly ... laughing
    1. PalBor
      PalBor 7 November 2017 14: 18 New
      +6
      From the navel of the world? Yes, you can’t immediately wash the dirt even with the help of a Russian bath winked
  5. Nasrat
    Nasrat 7 November 2017 13: 22 New
    +3
    Is this an article to improve the ranking of a VO site? ....
    1. Black5Raven
      Black5Raven 7 November 2017 22: 21 New
      +3
      This article is to enhance the morale of the patriots of the motherland (for some reason, the patriots of Syria, but not the essence) amid all the failures and setbacks.
  6. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 7 November 2017 13: 26 New
    +4
    the survivability of the S-200 air defense system is that the 6 PU divisions are spaced apart by a star and covered by shafts
    The Dumeir air defense base is the 3 division of the 6 PU + 3 illumination radars and 2 surveillance radars
    + SAM Cube with 6 PU and 2 radar
    to completely destroy you need at least 31 rocket (bombs)
    or destroy only the radar - and this is 7 missiles (bombs)
    BUT (!) S-200 air defense system also works on third-party control centers
  7. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 7 November 2017 13: 29 New
    +8
    What is new here?
    Almost immediately after the strike, there was a message that the strike
    to the radar and to the control car, and not to the rocket launchers themselves.
    "Scared" the guys, as usual.
  8. complete zero
    complete zero 7 November 2017 13: 32 New
    0
    Quote: seat9969
    Again, children are miraculous fairy tales ..... vib ische half a year after the impact said that everything is fine .....

    and we always have "all is well" ... but for the sake of truth, better than yours
  9. complete zero
    complete zero 7 November 2017 13: 33 New
    +2
    what's the point that they are safe ... after all, they didn’t bring anyone down?
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 7 November 2017 13: 39 New
      +5
      Is not a fact. The photo of the F-35 damaged by the “bird” was never shown ... Or I missed. If there is a photo, then show in the response comment.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 November 2017 15: 39 New
        +5
        F-35 was damaged by birds almost a week before the incident with
        firing from C-200. But the message about his damage hit
        to the press about the days when destruction was hotly discussed
        C-200 radar. And RuNet immediately tied two unrelated events into one.
        1. _Jack_
          _Jack_ 7 November 2017 15: 52 New
          +3
          Are there links to news about F-35 bird damage with dates "almost a week before the S-200 shooting incident"?
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 7 November 2017 16: 09 New
            +8
            I guess not. Like photos. Here we have recently planted Yaki without a chassis, as the photo was. Tu-22 also rolled out photos were. And then silence. Neither photo nor video. What could be secret there? Never mind.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 7 November 2017 17: 17 New
              +3
              "Neither photo nor video. What could be secret there? Nothing." ///

              Nobody knows what the damage to the stealth coating after the impact looks like.
              There have been no such cases so far. Therefore, it is a secret.

              The Hebrew link looks like this:
              October 16 2017
              https://www.20il.co.il/%D7%9E%D7%98%D7%95%D7%A1-%
              D7%97%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%9F-%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%A7%
              D7%A2-%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%97%D7%A8-%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%A4
              %D7%92%D7%A2-%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%94%D7%A7%D7%AA-%D7%9
              7%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%93%D7%95/

              מטוס חמקן קורקע לאחר שנפגע מלהקת חסידות
              transfer:
              קורקע לפני כשבועיים לאחר שנפגע במהלך נחיתה משתי חסידות - landed about two weeks ago after it was damaged during landing by two storks.
              1. Muvka
                Muvka 7 November 2017 17: 29 New
                +3
                Even there, commentary on the news hinted at a shelling version.
              2. Muvka
                Muvka 7 November 2017 17: 31 New
                +3
                And here is the news for you from exactly the same date.
                https://topwar.ru/127358-izrailskaya-aviaciya-uni
                chtozhila-siriyskuyu-batareyu-zrk-s-200.html
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 7 November 2017 17: 10 New
          +7
          Quote: voyaka uh
          F-35 was damaged by birds almost a week before the incident with
          firing from C-200. But the message about his damage hit
          to the press about the days when destruction was hotly discussed
          C-200 radar. And RuNet immediately tied two unrelated events into one.

          Hugging for the hundredth time that the F-35 is in the process of development and no one can use it, because it is still not a combat machine, it is useless. They so want ...
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 7 November 2017 17: 25 New
            +4
            Why can no one use it? Give me one reason.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 7 November 2017 17: 40 New
              +6
              Because in December only Israel will receive from Lockheed
              last block of software. Then they’ll “attach” this software
              Israeli software for our weapons: missiles and bombs from industrial production.
              And after that they will begin combat sorties.
              In the meantime, they fly every day - as many as possible fly around them
              military pilots. There are only seven aircraft so far.
              1. Muvka
                Muvka 7 November 2017 18: 06 New
                +6
                Some kind of cheap excuse. Will there be a link to the news with this info? Or is it your notion?
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 7 November 2017 18: 11 New
                  +5
                  At the end of December, the first half-squadron will be ready for battle
                  action. Did you like or dislike my explanations:
                  alas, not to please everyone. Here, even if you put a hundred links, only time
                  spend it.
                  1. Muvka
                    Muvka 7 November 2017 19: 12 New
                    +4
                    Can you provide a link to the information that you said? That there is not all software and that the aircraft cannot use weapons at the moment. You didn’t make it up? Have you read it somewhere? Give a link.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 7 November 2017 19: 15 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Muvka
                      You can provide a link to the information that you said

                      https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/80475.html
                      F-35I will become operational in December 2017
                      1. Muvka
                        Muvka 7 November 2017 19: 19 New
                        +3
                        Who is Oleg Granovsky? Is this your defense secretary? Ok, he refers to the newspaper, but does not provide links. Can you find an article?
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                    2. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 7 November 2017 21: 01 New
                      +4
                      "all software and that the aircraft cannot use weapons at the moment" ////

                      He can use American weapons, which we also have. But we want to use ours too.
                      And the software has the so-called Blocks ("upgrades"). How would you explain? recourse
                      And it is always advisable to put your "upgrade" on the last "upgrade" of the Americans, and not on the previous one. Someone help convey to Mouvka
                      my words ... I despaired crying
                      1. Muvka
                        Muvka 7 November 2017 21: 26 New
                        +3
                        Well. There is armament, there is software - so what is the problem of using it? And you never need to despair! :)
        3. XXXIII
          XXXIII 7 November 2017 18: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: voyaka uh
          F-35 was damaged by birds almost a week before the incident with
          firing from the S-200.
          All the same, they sold paint samples of the invisible Shoigu ..... the s-500 will now see everything ...... tongue
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 7 November 2017 21: 03 New
            +6
            Like an x-ray ... right through ...
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 7 November 2017 21: 15 New
              +2
              Now it’s clear why you fly through Lebanon as if you were your own, Lebanon has nothing to shoot down your planes with ..... laughing
          2. ariman1
            ariman1 7 November 2017 21: 57 New
            +1
            yeah .. for cash ... Shoigu right at the meeting he pulled out a purse and settled ... or is it without a purse? Just a rubber band pulled? and instead of him a can of paint. and change with a hundred
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 7 November 2017 22: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: ariman1
              yeah .. for cash ... shoigu right at the meeting pulled out a purse and settled ... or is it without a purse? Just a rubber band pulled?
              Not paid with an American visa ... wassat
              and instead of him a can of paint
              And not one ..... the bird was big .... laughing The next bird will probably remove something from f-35 ....... wassat
  10. Livonetc
    Livonetc 7 November 2017 13: 43 New
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    In any case, there is no need to talk about total destruction.

    And who spoke of total annihilation? Anyway, the news was almost a month late. The fact that the bombed radar was restored within a few days has already been reported. Although, on the other hand, news does not reach Mordovia quickly ... laughing

    I'm based in Moscow.
    However, only in VO read.
    I just use a limited number of resources on certain topics.
    There is no time to jump on sites for hot.
    Thank you for a comprehensive lunch! :)
  11. Sergei75
    Sergei75 7 November 2017 14: 15 New
    0
    AND? sense in them in modern warfare in this form.
    Interestingly, but nothing can be upgraded there? The means of delivery is to bring to the world level the means of detection, guidance and control (so that the rocket will make tricks on the way to the target).
  12. Bronevick
    Bronevick 7 November 2017 14: 22 New
    +1
    Why didn’t this rocket shoot at an airplane?
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 7 November 2017 14: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: Bronevick
      Why didn’t this rocket shoot at an airplane?

      Because the missiles are not given a gun to shoot at the plane.
      1. Bronevick
        Bronevick 7 November 2017 15: 14 New
        +2
        Well, yes, as there, the rocket does not shoot but hits the target, the ship does not float but walks, the tank does not drive, but carries out measures to move around the surface of this mortal planet. Sorry, I'm not educated.
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 7 November 2017 15: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: Bronevick
          Sorry, I'm not educated.

          Oh, no, I, too, I didn’t even serve in the army, I just could not resist so as not to stumble))))))))))
  13. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 7 November 2017 14: 48 New
    +2
    it’s not clear, however — how the ancient air defense complex saw the newest and most secret aircraft — either a good rocket or a poop plane! it seems to me that the rocket is good
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 November 2017 15: 35 New
      +5
      The newest ones were not there. But the F-16 complex did not see.
      They shot, as usual, in milk, "towards the enemy."
      They were warned of the destruction of the radar. For the future.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 7 November 2017 16: 12 New
        +3
        Of course there was no F-35 there. Only the news about the bird appeared at the same time, and the photo of the damaged plane did not appear. Some coincidences ...
        1. stone
          stone 7 November 2017 18: 54 New
          +5
          So what? These coincidences were invented and far-fetched in Runet and in the fucking media, such as this Mordovian leaflet. You are told that the F-35s are still not flying in Israel on combat missions and this is quite logical, since they arrived just a few months ago. And that the huge S-200 rocket only slightly pokotsat STELS coating? laughing I understand I want to believe, but this is a fake.
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 7 November 2017 19: 15 New
            +3
            Well no. Could and bring down. Have you seen photos of this damaged plane? Me not. But I saw a photo of the rolled out of the Tu-22 strip. This is a puzzle for the development of logic.
            1. stone
              stone 8 November 2017 06: 19 New
              +3
              Could, but could not. Fortune-telling on coffee grounds, but no facts. Logic has nothing to do with it.
      2. utyutkin
        utyutkin 7 November 2017 16: 40 New
        +2
        Well, yes, of course, no one saw anything, and the missiles were fired just like that :)))). These missiles simply fell into pieces :). oh well, it's time to admit that f 35 is clearly visible in the meter and decimeter and therefore it flies low and low. and two hundred hundred has completed its task at 100%. she defended the object group by forcing adversaries to work in the desert and along it.
        1. ariman1
          ariman1 7 November 2017 22: 00 New
          +3
          ahh, that’s why air defense is needed ... to cause fire on yourself. And there are kamikaze, they drink sake every day and say goodbye to their wives ... I have been reading the local comments periodically for a month now and I don’t even know how to laugh or sympathize ... throw off where to transfer the money for treatment)))
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 7 November 2017 22: 31 New
            +3
            Yes, somehow. The F-16 in one salvo suppressed the radar of the c-200. So for an example. The people immediately came up with an excuse with f 35. They participate in flights, but do not participate in combat. What the hell is that for. It is interesting to have time to restore radars in half an hour, before the second wave. So this is all a balm .....
            1. utyutkin
              utyutkin 8 November 2017 22: 12 New
              0
              Yes, like 8 f-16 + 2 f-35 + 2 jammers and 1 drone plane couldn’t break through to the guarded object, they at least managed to leave whole (a little bit), because at the last moment they could crash the S-200 radar, otherwise didn’t leave at all :) we know very well how the valiant Jewish falcons “not noticeably” attack radars :)))))). and the attack scheme with - 200 is as old as the world :). I’m afraid that even without considering damage to the aircraft, the total cost of their departure + the cost of a rocket is several times higher than the cost of a radar with - 200. :)
              1. Shahno
                Shahno 8 November 2017 22: 18 New
                +1
                8? 16? Aircraft Drill? Why 2? 35? Why 8? 16. Your information is tactically illiterate.
          2. utyutkin
            utyutkin 8 November 2017 22: 04 New
            0
            you can both laugh and transfer money for treatment for yourself and what you want to do, but remember the air defense task is considered completed if the attack object is saved! what and how the air defense protected him is of no interest to anyone. shot down planes - well done! It didn’t bring down but didn’t let hit the targets - excellent! mission accomplished! By the way, imagine yourself for a moment with this goal and understand everything :)
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 8 November 2017 22: 24 New
              +1
              8 f16 did not want to destroy the object. For I have already said this so for example. Israelis use smaller groups. 2 + 1. Two are working, one is studying.
    2. Sergei75
      Sergei75 7 November 2017 16: 16 New
      +2
      A good missile hits the target, but this one remained intact, but it was of no use to it, if only the modernized Phantom flew nearby, they would rot out the current in dumps.
  14. complete zero
    complete zero 7 November 2017 16: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Sergei75
    A good missile hits the target, but this one remained intact, but it was of no use to it, if only the modernized Phantom flew nearby, they would rot out the current in dumps.

    in Yugoslavia, the junk (С-75) hit B2..so apparently there is a charge on them?
    1. faiver
      faiver 7 November 2017 16: 46 New
      +8
      if my memory serves me right in Yugoslavia they shot down f-117, well, it’s in no way spirit ...
    2. ariman1
      ariman1 7 November 2017 22: 00 New
      +2
      B2? Wow ... cool ... maybe a reptilian starship?
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 7 November 2017 22: 55 New
      +6
      Quote: full zero

      in Yugoslavia, the junk (С-75) hit B2..so apparently there is a charge on them?

      Anything can happen. Until now, a bottle with a combustible mixture can set fire to the most modern tank. The chance is not high, but there is.
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 8 November 2017 01: 32 New
        +8
        Aron, welcome hi And if you take on a "weapon" a box of bottles "with a combustible mixture", then you can disable the entire crew of the tank for a while. The tank will not suffer, but the crew will have to "heal" the same mixture in the morning. wink drinks
  15. complete zero
    complete zero 7 November 2017 16: 37 New
    0
    Quote: seregatara1969
    it’s not clear, however — how the ancient air defense complex saw the newest and most secret aircraft — either a good rocket or a poop plane! it seems to me that the rocket is good

    but not visible at all, in principle ... the only question is: who can see someone for 100 km and someone for 10 (that’s the whole difference)
  16. complete zero
    complete zero 7 November 2017 16: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: Sergei75
    A good missile hits the target, but this one remained intact, but it was of no use to it, if only the modernized Phantom flew nearby, they would rot out the current in dumps.

    why is it suddenly "phantoms" in landfills? .. there are countries (I suspect that it’s not a little) that still use them .. like Miami 21-23
    1. faiver
      faiver 7 November 2017 16: 48 New
      +1
      the same Americans use phantoms as guided targets ...
  17. complete zero
    complete zero 7 November 2017 16: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: faiver
    if my memory serves me right in Yugoslavia they shot down f-117, well, it’s in no way spirit ...

    yes I got confused ... but in any case .. the old man shot down the stealth
    1. ariman1
      ariman1 7 November 2017 22: 01 New
      0
      Yes, what the hell is the difference, stealth is the same everywhere. what the second what the fifth generation)) Th, sort of them
  18. complete zero
    complete zero 7 November 2017 17: 14 New
    0
    Quote: faiver
    the same Americans use phantoms as guided targets ...

    of course I’m still the “pilot”))) but for some reason it seems .. that install a modern BRONO ... it’s not a bad machine ... at least a tornado (which is still in service with NATO) .. not much younger F4
  19. pasechnik
    pasechnik 7 November 2017 17: 20 New
    0
    They shoot at inflatable targets and then boast! wassat
  20. ADT
    ADT 7 November 2017 18: 20 New
    12
    I used to read V.O. with great interest, learned a lot of new from both articles and comments.
    The site was worthy of respect.
    And now the komenty is filled with morons - pseudo-patriots, and the articles are like from the village of Gadyukino.
    Specifically on the topic, as they have already written above more than once, it was immediately after the impact, almost officially announced - the radar and control machine were destroyed.
    What is the meaning of this? And the fact that the missile launch racks are the least valuable part of the entire anti-aircraft battery. But the radar, and the control machine, these products are not simple! In addition, there are specialists who need to be taught for a long time, and officers.
    1. stone
      stone 7 November 2017 18: 28 New
      +5
      "Yes, and articles as if from the village of Gadyukino."
      Well, so the Messenger of Mordovia is about this. laughing
    2. ADT
      ADT 7 November 2017 18: 33 New
      11
      Should the battery be destroyed after this?
      When I served in training, in Stepyanka (now this is just the outskirts of Minsk), in the year 1986, we began exercises. Before this, the companies entering the guards warned, so that they were more attentive, they could even put specialists on our heads.
      They warned, but the guards all missed. Almost immediately, as the teachings began, they ended immediately for us. It was announced that the town of Stepyanka was destroyed.
      And just: the specialists penetrated unnoticed, and soon the mines were discovered at the intersection of communication cables, power cables, local substations and transformers, in fuel and lubricant warehouses.
      As we were told, the town was simply erased from the exercise map. Because at the time of the "fighting" he was incompetent.
      So decide for yourself whether the battery is destroyed or not, if the missiles on it were left standing unnecessary and defenseless trash.
      And for everything about everything, we spent two ammunition., I wanted to incinerate everything, I spent more.
    3. ariman1
      ariman1 7 November 2017 22: 02 New
      +5
      it’s better to read what on the warline then ... and here it is, purely gobbling over the patriots
    4. Black5Raven
      Black5Raven 7 November 2017 22: 30 New
      +5
      Quote: ADT
      The site was worthy of respect.
      And now, the comments are crammed with morons - pseudo-patriots

      For a long time not the one that was a few years ago, a lot of people left. And most importantly - sensible people, whose comments were nice to read, you could always learn something new, but now ....
  21. Fanat85
    Fanat85 7 November 2017 20: 50 New
    0
    Quote: stone
    So what? These coincidences were invented and far-fetched in Runet and in the fucking media, such as this Mordovian leaflet. You are told that the F-35s are still not flying in Israel on combat missions and this is quite logical, since they arrived just a few months ago. And that the huge S-200 rocket only slightly pokotsat STELS coating? laughing I understand I want to believe, but this is a fake.

    Duck everyone was told that there are no real PMCs in Syria either))) they can say about F-35 that they don’t fly like that yet!)) Well, if you think very well what prevents you from using F-35 ??? if I had these aircraft in service, I would certainly have tested them in the case against the potential enemy’s c300 and c400! is logical? logical!
    1. stone
      stone 8 November 2017 06: 35 New
      +5
      Logically within your logic, sitting on the couch. Modern Air Force is a complex, multi-level system and it takes time to combine all the elements of the system with a new combat aircraft. F-35 arrived a few months ago and it was immediately announced that they would be ready for combat by the end of 2017. Most likely, an appropriate plan was developed and approved. Nobody will, being in their right mind, make such risky (for a career) decisions. Moreover, this is not a matter of life and death, and F-15, F-16 doing their job perfectly. This is logical, at least for me.
  22. Morrrow
    Morrrow 7 November 2017 21: 41 New
    +5
    Muvka, The plane did not reach combat readiness, that’s the problem
  23. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 7 November 2017 22: 58 New
    +6
    Muvka,
    You definitely have a problem understanding printed text.
    Sorry, I can no longer comment on your posts. hi
  24. Oleg Salov
    Oleg Salov 8 November 2017 00: 26 New
    +2
    But the sense of the fact that the installations remained intact, they did not fulfill their function, they were created in order to shoot down planes, and not to remain intact after a retaliatory strike. The missiles were fired, but they did not shoot down the F-35s, so they did not fulfilled their main function, it’s time to change at least to the S-300.
  25. MadCat
    MadCat 8 November 2017 04: 13 New
    +5
    The Messenger of Mordovia is, of course, an Argument, but he is not a rival to the Syrian SANA, in especially fruitful mushroom days they immediately shoot down ten aircraft laughing
  26. complete zero
    complete zero 8 November 2017 07: 33 New
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: full zero

    in Yugoslavia, the junk (С-75) hit B2..so apparently there is a charge on them?

    Anything can happen. Until now, a bottle with a combustible mixture can set fire to the most modern tank. The chance is not high, but there is.

    more than one war has not been won by aviation (yes, it’s super modern) .. so still without “bottles” ... more precisely, their throwers ...
  27. complete zero
    complete zero 8 November 2017 07: 37 New
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    Quote: ariman1
    Yes, what the hell is the difference, stealth is the same everywhere. what the second what the fifth generation)) Th, sort of them

    the respected difference is that one will be found FOR 100 km ... and the second for 10 .... and since you're right there is no difference and both fly))))
  28. Fanat85
    Fanat85 8 November 2017 19: 59 New
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    Quote: stone
    Logically within your logic, sitting on the couch. Modern Air Force is a complex, multi-level system and it takes time to combine all the elements of the system with a new combat aircraft. F-35 arrived a few months ago and it was immediately announced that they would be ready for combat by the end of 2017. Most likely, an appropriate plan was developed and approved. Nobody will, being in their right mind, make such risky (for a career) decisions. Moreover, this is not a matter of life and death, and F-15, F-16 doing their job perfectly. This is logical, at least for me.

    We are all sofa experts here, including you! The fact that it is officially declared does not mean that it will be so in reality! all countries are trying to test their equipment, airplanes, which are in service with the air defense. What is the difference between all Jews? or bought a cat in a bag to stand in the hangar? most likely these planes were used, as this incident served, another thing is that I still couldn’t bring down 200
  29. iomoe
    iomoe 9 November 2017 15: 24 New
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    Strange article. This F-35 remained intact after being fired from the S-200. And they even managed to strike back, and damage something there.