Syrian installations of the C-200 air defense system remained intact after the strike by the Israeli Air Force

The Syrian C-200VE Vega-E complex, which attacked the latest Israeli fighter-bomber F-35 in the sky over Lebanon, was not destroyed by retaliatory strike, reports Messenger of Mordovia.

This, in particular, is indicated by military experts, who studied in detail the satellite images of the positions of the 16-th air defense brigade located on the Internet near Dumeyr airbase in the Damascus area that appeared on the Internet.

“Apparently, all launchers remained safe and sound. Perhaps the enemy managed to damage the antenna post with radar target illumination. But no more than that. In any case, talk about total destruction is not necessary. The Syrian army can restore full combat effectiveness of this unit in a fairly short time. That, for sure, has already happened at the present time, ”writes the author of the article, Lev Romanov.

Despite its age, these anti-aircraft missile systems are still capable of delivering a lot of trouble to potential aggressors, he concludes.

Comments

[Going]

He just got lost and his number is appropriate.

[Pivot]

Yes, the PUs themselves are nothing without a radar, and if there is an invasion of the ATS these installations will not last long, Libya is a good example of this.

[Maz]

Immortal chtoli? Or nine lives?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: seat9969

Again, children are miraculous fairy tales ..... vib ische half a year after the impact said that everything is fine .....

And what is wrong. The Syrians are doing well. So everything is in order.

[Yujanin.]

again, children are miraculous fairy tales ..... vib ische half a year after the impact said that everything is fine ...

Perhaps there was an Israeli strike on inflatable complexes.

[utyutkin]

it’s someone else’s fairy tale :) I’ll remind you initially someone claimed that f 35 is invisible and that they aren’t visible at all :) but in fact it turned out that for invisibility it was necessary to shoot at s-200 :)

[Egorovich]

From the reading above it follows that the Syrian birds, as the Jewish F-35 pecked, will peck with the same success. Well, very nice birds !!!

[forester]

Quote: Egorovich

From the reading above it follows that the Syrian birds, as the Jewish F-35 pecked, will peck with the same success. Well, very nice birds !!!

That's just a pity they didn’t bring down, but someone’s confidence in the invisibility of this “super” was clearly shaken)))

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Egorovich

From the reading above it follows that the Syrian birds, as the Jewish F-35 pecked, will peck with the same success. Well, very nice birds !!!

Wonderful.

[PalBor]

Yes, yes, remember the reports of the collision of the F-35 with the Syrian sparrow

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: PalBor

Yes, yes, remember the reports of the collision of the F-35 with the Syrian sparrow

Exactly. No other way.

[Eurodav]

And what do universal know-it-alls tell us?
How is it to get the Messenger of Mordovia on an impudent person .....?

[Professor]

In any case, there is no need to talk about total destruction.

And who spoke of total annihilation? Anyway, the news was almost a month late. The fact that the bombed radar was restored within a few days has already been reported. Although, on the other hand, news does not reach Mordovia quickly ...

[PalBor]

From the navel of the world? Yes, you can’t immediately wash the dirt even with the help of a Russian bath

[Nasrat]

Is this an article to improve the ranking of a VO site? ....

[Black5Raven]

This article is to enhance the morale of the patriots of the motherland (for some reason, the patriots of Syria, but not the essence) amid all the failures and setbacks.

[Romario_Argo]

the survivability of the S-200 air defense system is that the 6 PU divisions are spaced apart by a star and covered by shafts
The Dumeir air defense base is the 3 division of the 6 PU + 3 illumination radars and 2 surveillance radars
+ SAM Cube with 6 PU and 2 radar
to completely destroy you need at least 31 rocket (bombs)
or destroy only the radar - and this is 7 missiles (bombs)
BUT (!) S-200 air defense system also works on third-party control centers

[voyaka uh]

What is new here?
Almost immediately after the strike, there was a message that the strike
to the radar and to the control car, and not to the rocket launchers themselves.
"Scared" the guys, as usual.

[complete zero]

Quote: seat9969

Again, children are miraculous fairy tales ..... vib ische half a year after the impact said that everything is fine .....

and we always have "all is well" ... but for the sake of truth, better than yours

[complete zero]

what's the point that they are safe ... after all, they didn’t bring anyone down?

[Muvka]

Is not a fact. The photo of the F-35 damaged by the “bird” was never shown ... Or I missed. If there is a photo, then show in the response comment.

[voyaka uh]

F-35 was damaged by birds almost a week before the incident with
firing from C-200. But the message about his damage hit
to the press about the days when destruction was hotly discussed
C-200 radar. And RuNet immediately tied two unrelated events into one.

[_Jack_]

Are there links to news about F-35 bird damage with dates "almost a week before the S-200 shooting incident"?

[Muvka]

I guess not. Like photos. Here we have recently planted Yaki without a chassis, as the photo was. Tu-22 also rolled out photos were. And then silence. Neither photo nor video. What could be secret there? Never mind.

[voyaka uh]

"Neither photo nor video. What could be secret there? Nothing." ///

Nobody knows what the damage to the stealth coating after the impact looks like.
There have been no such cases so far. Therefore, it is a secret.

The Hebrew link looks like this:
October 16 2017
https://www.20il.co.il/%D7%9E%D7%98%D7%95%D7%A1-%
D7%97%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%9F-%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%A7%
D7%A2-%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%97%D7%A8-%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%A4
%D7%92%D7%A2-%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%94%D7%A7%D7%AA-%D7%9
7%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%93%D7%95/

מטוס חמקן קורקע לאחר שנפגע מלהקת חסידות
transfer:
קורקע לפני כשבועיים לאחר שנפגע במהלך נחיתה משתי חסידות - landed about two weeks ago after it was damaged during landing by two storks.

[Muvka]

Even there, commentary on the news hinted at a shelling version.

[Muvka]

And here is the news for you from exactly the same date.
https://topwar.ru/127358-izrailskaya-aviaciya-uni
chtozhila-siriyskuyu-batareyu-zrk-s-200.html

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: voyaka uh

F-35 was damaged by birds almost a week before the incident with
firing from C-200. But the message about his damage hit
to the press about the days when destruction was hotly discussed
C-200 radar. And RuNet immediately tied two unrelated events into one.

Hugging for the hundredth time that the F-35 is in the process of development and no one can use it, because it is still not a combat machine, it is useless. They so want ...

[Muvka]

Why can no one use it? Give me one reason.

[voyaka uh]

Because in December only Israel will receive from Lockheed
last block of software. Then they’ll “attach” this software
Israeli software for our weapons: missiles and bombs from industrial production.
And after that they will begin combat sorties.
In the meantime, they fly every day - as many as possible fly around them
military pilots. There are only seven aircraft so far.

[Muvka]

Some kind of cheap excuse. Will there be a link to the news with this info? Or is it your notion?

[voyaka uh]

At the end of December, the first half-squadron will be ready for battle
action. Did you like or dislike my explanations:
alas, not to please everyone. Here, even if you put a hundred links, only time
spend it.

[Muvka]

Can you provide a link to the information that you said? That there is not all software and that the aircraft cannot use weapons at the moment. You didn’t make it up? Have you read it somewhere? Give a link.

[Professor]

Quote: Muvka

You can provide a link to the information that you said

https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/80475.html
F-35I will become operational in December 2017

[Muvka]

Who is Oleg Granovsky? Is this your defense secretary? Ok, he refers to the newspaper, but does not provide links. Can you find an article?

[voyaka uh]

"all software and that the aircraft cannot use weapons at the moment" ////

He can use American weapons, which we also have. But we want to use ours too.
And the software has the so-called Blocks ("upgrades"). How would you explain?
And it is always advisable to put your "upgrade" on the last "upgrade" of the Americans, and not on the previous one. Someone help convey to Mouvka
my words ... I despaired

[Muvka]

Well. There is armament, there is software - so what is the problem of using it? And you never need to despair! :)

[XXXIII]

Quote: voyaka uh

F-35 was damaged by birds almost a week before the incident with
firing from the S-200.

All the same, they sold paint samples of the invisible Shoigu ..... the s-500 will now see everything ......

[voyaka uh]

Like an x-ray ... right through ...

[XXXIII]

Now it’s clear why you fly through Lebanon as if you were your own, Lebanon has nothing to shoot down your planes with .....

[ariman1]

yeah .. for cash ... Shoigu right at the meeting he pulled out a purse and settled ... or is it without a purse? Just a rubber band pulled? and instead of him a can of paint. and change with a hundred

[XXXIII]

Quote: ariman1

yeah .. for cash ... shoigu right at the meeting pulled out a purse and settled ... or is it without a purse? Just a rubber band pulled?

Not paid with an American visa ...

and instead of him a can of paint

And not one ..... the bird was big .... The next bird will probably remove something from f-35 .......

[Livonetc]

Quote: professor

In any case, there is no need to talk about total destruction.

And who spoke of total annihilation? Anyway, the news was almost a month late. The fact that the bombed radar was restored within a few days has already been reported. Although, on the other hand, news does not reach Mordovia quickly ...

I'm based in Moscow.
However, only in VO read.
I just use a limited number of resources on certain topics.
There is no time to jump on sites for hot.
Thank you for a comprehensive lunch! :)

[Sergei75]

AND? sense in them in modern warfare in this form.
Interestingly, but nothing can be upgraded there? The means of delivery is to bring to the world level the means of detection, guidance and control (so that the rocket will make tricks on the way to the target).

[Bronevick]

Why didn’t this rocket shoot at an airplane?

[Alex_59]

Quote: Bronevick

Why didn’t this rocket shoot at an airplane?

Because the missiles are not given a gun to shoot at the plane.

[Bronevick]

Well, yes, as there, the rocket does not shoot but hits the target, the ship does not float but walks, the tank does not drive, but carries out measures to move around the surface of this mortal planet. Sorry, I'm not educated.

[Alex_59]

Quote: Bronevick

Sorry, I'm not educated.

Oh, no, I, too, I didn’t even serve in the army, I just could not resist so as not to stumble))))))))))

[seregatara1969]

it’s not clear, however — how the ancient air defense complex saw the newest and most secret aircraft — either a good rocket or a poop plane! it seems to me that the rocket is good

[voyaka uh]

The newest ones were not there. But the F-16 complex did not see.
They shot, as usual, in milk, "towards the enemy."
They were warned of the destruction of the radar. For the future.

[Muvka]

Of course there was no F-35 there. Only the news about the bird appeared at the same time, and the photo of the damaged plane did not appear. Some coincidences ...

[stone]

So what? These coincidences were invented and far-fetched in Runet and in the fucking media, such as this Mordovian leaflet. You are told that the F-35s are still not flying in Israel on combat missions and this is quite logical, since they arrived just a few months ago. And that the huge S-200 rocket only slightly pokotsat STELS coating? I understand I want to believe, but this is a fake.

[Muvka]

Well no. Could and bring down. Have you seen photos of this damaged plane? Me not. But I saw a photo of the rolled out of the Tu-22 strip. This is a puzzle for the development of logic.

[stone]

Could, but could not. Fortune-telling on coffee grounds, but no facts. Logic has nothing to do with it.

[utyutkin]

Well, yes, of course, no one saw anything, and the missiles were fired just like that :)))). These missiles simply fell into pieces :). oh well, it's time to admit that f 35 is clearly visible in the meter and decimeter and therefore it flies low and low. and two hundred hundred has completed its task at 100%. she defended the object group by forcing adversaries to work in the desert and along it.

[ariman1]

ahh, that’s why air defense is needed ... to cause fire on yourself. And there are kamikaze, they drink sake every day and say goodbye to their wives ... I have been reading the local comments periodically for a month now and I don’t even know how to laugh or sympathize ... throw off where to transfer the money for treatment)))

[Shahno]

Yes, somehow. The F-16 in one salvo suppressed the radar of the c-200. So for an example. The people immediately came up with an excuse with f 35. They participate in flights, but do not participate in combat. What the hell is that for. It is interesting to have time to restore radars in half an hour, before the second wave. So this is all a balm .....

[utyutkin]

Yes, like 8 f-16 + 2 f-35 + 2 jammers and 1 drone plane couldn’t break through to the guarded object, they at least managed to leave whole (a little bit), because at the last moment they could crash the S-200 radar, otherwise didn’t leave at all :) we know very well how the valiant Jewish falcons “not noticeably” attack radars :)))))). and the attack scheme with - 200 is as old as the world :). I’m afraid that even without considering damage to the aircraft, the total cost of their departure + the cost of a rocket is several times higher than the cost of a radar with - 200. :)

[Shahno]

8? 16? Aircraft Drill? Why 2? 35? Why 8? 16. Your information is tactically illiterate.

[utyutkin]

you can both laugh and transfer money for treatment for yourself and what you want to do, but remember the air defense task is considered completed if the attack object is saved! what and how the air defense protected him is of no interest to anyone. shot down planes - well done! It didn’t bring down but didn’t let hit the targets - excellent! mission accomplished! By the way, imagine yourself for a moment with this goal and understand everything :)

[Shahno]

8 f16 did not want to destroy the object. For I have already said this so for example. Israelis use smaller groups. 2 + 1. Two are working, one is studying.

[Sergei75]

A good missile hits the target, but this one remained intact, but it was of no use to it, if only the modernized Phantom flew nearby, they would rot out the current in dumps.

[complete zero]

Quote: Sergei75

A good missile hits the target, but this one remained intact, but it was of no use to it, if only the modernized Phantom flew nearby, they would rot out the current in dumps.

in Yugoslavia, the junk (С-75) hit B2..so apparently there is a charge on them?

[faiver]

if my memory serves me right in Yugoslavia they shot down f-117, well, it’s in no way spirit ...

[ariman1]

B2? Wow ... cool ... maybe a reptilian starship?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: full zero

in Yugoslavia, the junk (С-75) hit B2..so apparently there is a charge on them?

Anything can happen. Until now, a bottle with a combustible mixture can set fire to the most modern tank. The chance is not high, but there is.

[Svarog51]

Aron, welcome And if you take on a "weapon" a box of bottles "with a combustible mixture", then you can disable the entire crew of the tank for a while. The tank will not suffer, but the crew will have to "heal" the same mixture in the morning.

[complete zero]

Quote: seregatara1969

it’s not clear, however — how the ancient air defense complex saw the newest and most secret aircraft — either a good rocket or a poop plane! it seems to me that the rocket is good

but not visible at all, in principle ... the only question is: who can see someone for 100 km and someone for 10 (that’s the whole difference)

[complete zero]

Quote: Sergei75

A good missile hits the target, but this one remained intact, but it was of no use to it, if only the modernized Phantom flew nearby, they would rot out the current in dumps.

why is it suddenly "phantoms" in landfills? .. there are countries (I suspect that it’s not a little) that still use them .. like Miami 21-23

[faiver]

the same Americans use phantoms as guided targets ...

[complete zero]

Quote: faiver

if my memory serves me right in Yugoslavia they shot down f-117, well, it’s in no way spirit ...

yes I got confused ... but in any case .. the old man shot down the stealth

[ariman1]

Yes, what the hell is the difference, stealth is the same everywhere. what the second what the fifth generation)) Th, sort of them

[complete zero]

Quote: faiver

the same Americans use phantoms as guided targets ...

of course I’m still the “pilot”))) but for some reason it seems .. that install a modern BRONO ... it’s not a bad machine ... at least a tornado (which is still in service with NATO) .. not much younger F4

[pasechnik]

They shoot at inflatable targets and then boast!

[ADT]

I used to read V.O. with great interest, learned a lot of new from both articles and comments.
The site was worthy of respect.
And now the komenty is filled with morons - pseudo-patriots, and the articles are like from the village of Gadyukino.
Specifically on the topic, as they have already written above more than once, it was immediately after the impact, almost officially announced - the radar and control machine were destroyed.
What is the meaning of this? And the fact that the missile launch racks are the least valuable part of the entire anti-aircraft battery. But the radar, and the control machine, these products are not simple! In addition, there are specialists who need to be taught for a long time, and officers.

[stone]

"Yes, and articles as if from the village of Gadyukino."
Well, so the Messenger of Mordovia is about this.

[ADT]

Should the battery be destroyed after this?
When I served in training, in Stepyanka (now this is just the outskirts of Minsk), in the year 1986, we began exercises. Before this, the companies entering the guards warned, so that they were more attentive, they could even put specialists on our heads.
They warned, but the guards all missed. Almost immediately, as the teachings began, they ended immediately for us. It was announced that the town of Stepyanka was destroyed.
And just: the specialists penetrated unnoticed, and soon the mines were discovered at the intersection of communication cables, power cables, local substations and transformers, in fuel and lubricant warehouses.
As we were told, the town was simply erased from the exercise map. Because at the time of the "fighting" he was incompetent.
So decide for yourself whether the battery is destroyed or not, if the missiles on it were left standing unnecessary and defenseless trash.
And for everything about everything, we spent two ammunition., I wanted to incinerate everything, I spent more.

[ariman1]

it’s better to read what on the warline then ... and here it is, purely gobbling over the patriots

[Black5Raven]

Quote: ADT

The site was worthy of respect.
And now, the comments are crammed with morons - pseudo-patriots

For a long time not the one that was a few years ago, a lot of people left. And most importantly - sensible people, whose comments were nice to read, you could always learn something new, but now ....

[Fanat85]

Quote: stone

So what? These coincidences were invented and far-fetched in Runet and in the fucking media, such as this Mordovian leaflet. You are told that the F-35s are still not flying in Israel on combat missions and this is quite logical, since they arrived just a few months ago. And that the huge S-200 rocket only slightly pokotsat STELS coating? I understand I want to believe, but this is a fake.

Duck everyone was told that there are no real PMCs in Syria either))) they can say about F-35 that they don’t fly like that yet!)) Well, if you think very well what prevents you from using F-35 ??? if I had these aircraft in service, I would certainly have tested them in the case against the potential enemy’s c300 and c400! is logical? logical!

[stone]

Logically within your logic, sitting on the couch. Modern Air Force is a complex, multi-level system and it takes time to combine all the elements of the system with a new combat aircraft. F-35 arrived a few months ago and it was immediately announced that they would be ready for combat by the end of 2017. Most likely, an appropriate plan was developed and approved. Nobody will, being in their right mind, make such risky (for a career) decisions. Moreover, this is not a matter of life and death, and F-15, F-16 doing their job perfectly. This is logical, at least for me.

[Morrow]

Muvka, The plane did not reach combat readiness, that’s the problem

[voyaka uh]

Muvka,
You definitely have a problem understanding printed text.
Sorry, I can no longer comment on your posts.

[Oleg Salov]

But the sense of the fact that the installations remained intact, they did not fulfill their function, they were created in order to shoot down planes, and not to remain intact after a retaliatory strike. The missiles were fired, but they did not shoot down the F-35s, so they did not fulfilled their main function, it’s time to change at least to the S-300.

[MadCat]

The Messenger of Mordovia is, of course, an Argument, but he is not a rival to the Syrian SANA, in especially fruitful mushroom days they immediately shoot down ten aircraft

[complete zero]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: full zero

in Yugoslavia, the junk (С-75) hit B2..so apparently there is a charge on them?

Anything can happen. Until now, a bottle with a combustible mixture can set fire to the most modern tank. The chance is not high, but there is.

more than one war has not been won by aviation (yes, it’s super modern) .. so still without “bottles” ... more precisely, their throwers ...

[complete zero]

Quote: ariman1

Yes, what the hell is the difference, stealth is the same everywhere. what the second what the fifth generation)) Th, sort of them

the respected difference is that one will be found FOR 100 km ... and the second for 10 .... and since you're right there is no difference and both fly))))

[Fanat85]

Quote: stone

Logically within your logic, sitting on the couch. Modern Air Force is a complex, multi-level system and it takes time to combine all the elements of the system with a new combat aircraft. F-35 arrived a few months ago and it was immediately announced that they would be ready for combat by the end of 2017. Most likely, an appropriate plan was developed and approved. Nobody will, being in their right mind, make such risky (for a career) decisions. Moreover, this is not a matter of life and death, and F-15, F-16 doing their job perfectly. This is logical, at least for me.

We are all sofa experts here, including you! The fact that it is officially declared does not mean that it will be so in reality! all countries are trying to test their equipment, airplanes, which are in service with the air defense. What is the difference between all Jews? or bought a cat in a bag to stand in the hangar? most likely these planes were used, as this incident served, another thing is that I still couldn’t bring down 200

[iomoe]

Strange article. This F-35 remained intact after being fired from the S-200. And they even managed to strike back, and damage something there.