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Communists "more dangerous than the Nazis": the withdrawal of a Western specialist

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By the centenary of the Russian revolution, European experts are in a hurry to make regular historical and even alternative futurological discoveries. One such discovery was made by Richard Appelbom. In his opinion, the Communists are "much more dangerous than the Nazis."




If the revolution were not Russian, then the Nazis would not have appeared in Germany! About this in the publication "Vestmanlands Läns Tidning" wrote Richard Appelbom.

For seventy years in power, the Communists in the USSR have done more harm than good, the site cites his opinion. "InoTV". After all, the Communists in power suppress democracy, tolerance, and economic development. That's why true communists "can be much more dangerous than the Nazis": the latter demonstrate their wolfish grin openly.

The journalist calls the Russian revolution a "coup d'état." It was all like this: the Communists took power, and then did not want to let it out of their hands.

Now, a post-Soviet country that has rolled back into the past is ruled again ... by the king. It is not for nothing that The Economist compared Vladimir Putin’s rule with tsarism, not communism. The signs are obvious: the church has gained strength again, and "all power belongs to Tsar Putin."

Richard Appelbom’s conclusion: “... in seventy years communism has not achieved much in Soviet Russia. He rather brought more harm. ”

"Party dictatorship", "violence and hunger", "cleansing", which took place in the USSR, were characteristic of China. We can’t talk about socialism: both states have "rejected" it. Healthy capitalism, too, does not smell: both states adhere to “predatory capitalism” and not a market economy. "Human Rights" are not respected.

And here is the historical forecast in hindsight: “If the communists had not taken power in Russia, it is unlikely that the Nazis would succeed in taking power in Germany. The coup 1917 of the year occurred because Russia continued the war on the side of the Western powers after the abdication of the king. Although no one knows what would happen to Russia if it had made peace earlier, the continuation of the war looks like a big mistake. ”

If, in an open democratic society, the Communists can still make a positive contribution, Appelbom acknowledges, then if they take power, they demonstrate their incompatibility with democracy. The fact is that democracy and market economy recognize human imperfection and can be improved, and the Communists do not tolerate deviations from their teachings. As a result, they turn into oppressors.

Appelbom urges to beware of communism.

So, we note, the journalist seals the Communists with their orthodoxy, at the same time forgetting how the advanced democracies carry their ideas to some “backward countries”. No wonder the very image of liberal democracy has long been associated with bombs and napalm. And in this exclusivity other democrats believe sacredly so far.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 7 November 2017 07: 39 New
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      Comrades !!!
      All on the occasion of the Great October Socialist Revolution !!!
      Hooray Hooray!
      Our cause is right
      We will win!!!
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 7 November 2017 07: 53 New
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        That's just have to start all over again! Our tsar overthrew ... The Bolsheviks took advantage ... If it weren’t for Great Stalin, then Russia wouldn’t exist at all ... This hunchbacked one with Yeltsin ... Now they’ve returned to the masters.
        Now I will wipe away the tears and go to Barin to work!
        Happy holiday, comrades!
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 7 November 2017 08: 28 New
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          Swede Richard Appelbom believes that
          The coup d'etat of 1917 occurred because Russia continued the war on the side of the Western powers after the abdication of the king. Although no one knows what would happen to Russia if it made peace earlier"The continuation of the war looks like a big mistake."
          Why a mistake? And why does "NOBODY know"?
          Stalin knows! And Stalin spoke openly about the roots of counter-revolution in Soviet Russia!
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 7 November 2017 08: 41 New
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            If in an open democratic society the communists can still make a positive contribution, admits Appelbom, then if they take power, they demonstrate their incompatibility with democracy. The fact is that democracy and a market economy recognize human imperfection and can improve, and the Communists do not tolerate deviations from their teachings. As a result, they turn into oppressors. [/ b]
            Appelbom forgets to talk about whose democracy and whose "free" market under capitalism he implies.
            1. Solomon Kane
              Solomon Kane 7 November 2017 09: 52 New
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              Not a thankful job - to analyze the events of days long past .....
              Moreover, it’s not at all “cool”, on the part, to mix the history of the people with excrement .... No.
              Mr. Appelboom for a day, another to Auschwitz (Auschwitz) or Majdanek ... or to one of the 9200 burned Belarusian villages or to besieged Leningrad .....
              And then you can talk about the role of German social-nationalism in world history.
              1. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka 7 November 2017 10: 50 New
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                Quote: Solomon Kane
                Not a thankful job - to analyze the events of days long past .....
                Moreover, it’s not at all “cool”, from the side, to mix the history of the people with excrement ...


                in vain you don’t need to roll a barrel on him - he’s 100% right! For the whole capitalist world, the USSR was an eyesore, forced to take the most unprecedented measures to take care of its workers. Even in World War II, they did not fight so much, but destroyed cities with their carpet bombings on the Eastern Front and did not touch the factories in the West. And about the outcome of the Soviet era - you just need to see how the country twice rose from the ashes ...
                We live in a "democracy" for 26 years. And even did not come close to the achievements of our ancestors. If you take even 20 years after the revolution, how many factories were created and what was the level of education? After the 45th half of the country in ruins, millions of dead. After 20 years - the first in space, a nuclear power, the first to create an atomic icebreaker. But what about the country? Housing was no longer such a problem, in the Khrushchev. Pro repression just did not ... Yes, they were. And by
                1. Solomon Kane
                  Solomon Kane 7 November 2017 11: 26 New
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                  After all, the Communists in power suppress democracy, tolerance, economic development.

                  ... let him tell the Catalans, the Irish or the Indian tribes on the reservations ... are there also communists?
                  The role of the Communist Party in 1917 is undeniable, I’m not sure that after the abdication of Nicholas 2 in February 17th, some of the Menshevik-Esser or social anarchists would not have sold Russia to the Entente ...
                  And you and I would now fly under a star-striped flag or a flag with red and white Crosses of St. Andrew and St. George ......
                  Regardless of the political system, Russia has always been a welcome trophy for everything from the Pechenegs to the current "partners" ....
              2. BMP-2
                BMP-2 7 November 2017 14: 14 New
                +3
                In the article, as I understand it, Mr. Appelbom in the photo is in the center ... lol Well, then that perfectly explains his words. In principle, it is difficult to expect anything more from the animal. yes

                All a Happy October Revolution !!!
              3. Orionvit
                Orionvit 7 November 2017 14: 30 New
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                Quote: Solomon Kane
                It is not a thankful job to analyze the events of days long past.

                I do not agree. It is necessary to analyze events; it is even necessary to learn from the mistakes of history in order to avoid mistakes in the future. But this is only possible if the conclusions are correct.
                Moreover, it’s not at all “cool”, from the side, to mix the history of the people with excrement
                But this is true. With such an “analysis” of someone else’s (and his own, too) history, the West has no chance. Again they will step on the next rake.
          2. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 08: 41 New
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            Tatyana, welcome! hi love
            Quote: Tatiana
            Swede Richard Appelbom

            I have no doubt for a second that the "masterpiece" of this scribbler is paid for from a puddle.
            Z.Y. Happy Great October Day! love
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN 7 November 2017 09: 29 New
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              Hello Pasha! hi
              Happy Holidays!
              There’s nothing special to read here, acre
              After all, the Communists are in power suppress democracy, tolerance, economic development

              LGBT people, how do they know anything other than an ass? And there to talk about communism ... request
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 09: 36 New
                +8
                Hi Kolya ! hi Happy holiday ! drinks Let them reason as much as they want, but you won’t erase words from the song. This is equivalent as if some Papuan began to talk about the dangers of frost and snow. lol
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN 7 November 2017 09: 47 New
                  +4
                  drinks
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  It is equivalent as if some Papuan began to talk about the dangers of frost and snow.

                  Exactly so, and Papuan is gay ... how should he know that with our frosts in nature you will not get much pleasure ... laughing
                2. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 7 November 2017 10: 18 New
                  +5
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  Happy holiday !

                  Happy Holiday Bratko! drinks hi These Apelbloms forgot who extinguished the stoves in Auschwitz and Majdanek and which of the Apelbloms made soap. They have a short memory. negative
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 10: 21 New
                    +4
                    Hello brother, mutually! hi drinks drinks drinks
                    Quote: vovanpain
                    .The short they have a memory.

                    And the Westerners generally have a selective memory - they only remember what is beneficial to them. fool
            2. Tatyana
              Tatyana 7 November 2017 09: 48 New
              +6
              Hi Paul! hi Happy Holidays! love
              bouncyhunter
              I have no doubt for a second that the "masterpiece" of this scribbler is paid for from a puddle.
              But the Swedes themselves would not mind, incited from behind a puddle, as in the time of Frederick II the Great, to grab something from other countries - for example, from Russia! For example, St. Petersburg with its ports and logistics and the entire Leningrad region.
              In general, in a future war with Russia, the Swedes not only want to make money, but also historically rehabilitate themselves militarily - at least in their own eyes.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 09: 53 New
                +4
                From the spindle ears to them, and not Peter and the Leningrad region! They will come to rehabilitate under the patronage of NATO - again they will receive a sniffer! am
          3. To be or not to be
            To be or not to be 7 November 2017 10: 00 New
            +9
            Lenin - "What is Soviet Power?" (1919)


            about the opening of Appelbom
          4. 34 region
            34 region 7 November 2017 10: 20 New
            +1
            08.28. Tatyana! Well, right about the day it’s said the 90s! They overthrew the system, restored capitalism, created a raw materials appendage!
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        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 09: 09 New
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          Quote: Anarchist
          Our king overthrew ...

          who is yours?
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 7 November 2017 09: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            who is yours?

            Gays probably ... request
            1. Anarchist
              Anarchist 7 November 2017 10: 49 New
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              Judging by yourself is not worth it!
              The fact that it is the “gays” the first thing that comes to mind indicates your latency.
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              who is yours?

              Take a look at my nickname, and the question will disappear by itself!
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 11: 08 New
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                Sorry, but what side are they on here ?!
                1. Anarchist
                  Anarchist 7 November 2017 11: 26 New
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                  Who and how overthrew the Emperor Nicholas II
                  allpravda.info/...nikolaya...42458.html
                  The myth that "the Bolsheviks overthrew the tsar" was cut very ineptly. His appearance we owe to post-Soviet regression. ... Looking ahead, let's say that a number of great princes recognize after the overthrow of Nicholas II the Provisional Government
                  1. Irokez
                    Irokez 7 November 2017 13: 09 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Anarchist
                    The myth that "the Bolsheviks overthrew the tsar" was cut very ineptly.

                    That's for sure. The Communists, and even more so the Bolsheviks, did not seize power in any way, but simply accepted it on a platter from the provisional government (Kerensky). It was the Provisional Government that did everything to destroy Russia, and the Bolshevik Communists fully dealt with this (in the next 5-10 years) as they transferred this power to them.
                    And the fact that the official story (From Torah I) tells us so is for people (for the electorate, as they say now).
                    And those couch writers who thoughtlessly advocate and celebrate the revolution will not even bother to delve into the essence of what is happening and reasonably reflect on what more this revolution gave grief with millions of deaths and a 20–30 year rollback in development or that imaginary freedom that everyone received.
                    History already knew revolutions like the French, and this scenario was scrolled in Russia. Both here and there, death and murder, but the fact is that despite this revolution and genocide, our people all the same (albeit with great losses and difficult conditions) survived the world capture and dismemberment of Russia.
                    There is a wise saying: - "The road to hell is lined with good intentions," and so we have experienced this in full measure and in our own skin. In different time periods of the last century, communism was associated and was both a positive and a negative phenomenon for our country.
                    When Russia was brought down, the communist movement was welcomed abroad, but when the communists, led by Stalin, began to really equip the country, then everything turned upside down and began to criticize communism from behind the hill, but in the wake of the movement towards communism, Stalin gathered the country and strengthened she really has independence from external curators, for which he is still being poured mud by everyone.
                    Nevertheless, it was Stalin who covered up the international for he understood in his negativity. Moreover, he removed all the first communist Bolsheviks who participated in the collapse and genocide of Russia.
                    You guys scribblers and commentators, you at least study the question of the revolution, its consequences and benefits, and only then think about comments and write similar articles, because you can’t say in one word about the Great Revolution, that it gave us Great benefits like “Yes, I totally support the revolution” or "No need to figure out which revolution."
                    And some foreign writers or researchers are also right in the fact that there were periods of communist rule that were worse than the same fascists and this is a fact. It’s just that many people don’t want to admit this and are ready to close their eyes to everything under the general patriotism and herd feeling and call "Long Live the Revolution".
                    But the coin has two sides, and if communism is interpreted as a society of all equals and until then self-conscious, where there is no greed, greed, height, jealousy and anger, then it is in this form that the future communist society will be good for everyone, but this future is not built for 20-30 years and separately in one country. For this generation, they must be replaced and throughout the world there must be similar movements towards such transformations.
                    And then, as certain circles ruined Russia under this noise, this is just by saying: - "The road to hell is lined with good intentions." For us - Hell, for them - Paradise, for they have removed a strong and powerful competitor to Russia and have lived quite freely for a century and are still oppressed by their democracy, and we, the orphaned and miserable, still welcome their holiday of our collapse like any Holowins, We send valentines and so on.
                    If something happens, then it is beneficial for someone.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 13: 23 New
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                      Quote: Irokez
                      what more did this revolution bring grief with millions of deaths and a 20-30 year rollback in development or the imaginary freedom that everyone received.

                      about the rollback, you can in more detail, preferably on the examples of the successes of the Republic of Ingushetia, well, there they won the famine, they created industry, people became more educated
                      1. Irokez
                        Irokez 7 November 2017 13: 36 New
                        +1
                        In the 50s and 60s, when Khrushchev was already in power, achievements and breakthroughs in the economy were compared with the years of tsarist Russia (I don’t remember exactly 13, 14 or 15) and still caught up with these years. So if it weren’t for the revolution, what would have happened. Just think about such comparisons. Yes, there was World War II, but it would not have existed if it had not been for the World Revolution.
                        After all sorts of revolutions, as a rule, a civil war, and my friend is not a development, but a decline in the economy. Population decline (war, repression, genocide emigration) is not development, but decline. For example, Ukraine and ours in the 90s do not see a rollback to the past.
                    2. Orionvit
                      Orionvit 7 November 2017 14: 37 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Irokez
                      the Bolsheviks did not seize power, but simply accepted it on a platter from the provisional government (Kerensky)

                      The Bolsheviks did not accept power, but just in time picked up what simply lay and no one wanted (or was afraid) to take it. Thus, taking responsibility for the country and people.
                      1. Irokez
                        Irokez 7 November 2017 15: 50 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Orionvit
                        The Bolsheviks did not take power, but simply picked up on time

                        So you can say about everything like that: it formed itself, organized themselves, just lay, just took it or no one wanted it. But in reality there is a coordinator everywhere. Mavre Kerensky did his job and left at that moment when, by some chance, the Bolsheviks just approached the Winter Palace for power. Also say that there was a hard and bloody assault on the Winter Palace, the reconstruction of which we see in those ancient shots with the sailor climbing onto the gates. A typical production for people and the electorate, by the way, this is what we see in our time according to the productions of personnel from Syria about Assad's atrocities.
                        The power was precisely transferred to them at a very important moment, and none other than Karen contributed to the arming of the Bolsheviks at that time.
                    3. White and fluffy
                      White and fluffy 8 November 2017 10: 53 New
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                      What is needed is not everyone who is equal in height, weight, size, fashion (some shpuntiki), but equal before the law, responsible. Socio-economic justice.
                  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 13: 19 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Anarchist
                    The myth that "the Bolsheviks overthrew the tsar" is cut very ineptly

                    and this is to blame, the Bolsheviks kicked the provisional government and not the king
                    Quote: Anarchist
                    running forward, let's say that a number of great princes recognize after the overthrow of Nicholas II the Provisional Government

                    I’ll tell you more
                    1. Anarchist
                      Anarchist 7 November 2017 13: 45 New
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                      I gave you an example that not the Bolsheviks overthrew the tsar! I hope you do not need to tell Who Count Kropotkin was about his contribution to the overthrow of the tsar, and what about the anarchists?
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 14: 18 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Anarchist
                        I gave you an example that not the Bolsheviks overthrew the tsar!

                        I actually still remember from school that the king was overthrown in February 17, and not in October
                        therefore, I don’t know what and coma you brought there
                    2. Anarchist
                      Anarchist 7 November 2017 15: 01 New
                      +8
                      Then what was the question: where does the anarchists ??
                      More precisely, and what side are they on here?
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 15: 31 New
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                        so the question is, and the anarchists have nothing to do with it
                    3. Anarchist
                      Anarchist 7 November 2017 16: 04 New
                      +8
                      I am writing again: do you even know who Count Kropotkin is? About his contribution to the revolution? And who was he ...?
              2. NIKNN
                NIKNN 7 November 2017 11: 42 New
                +1
                Quote: Anarchist
                Take a look at my nickname, and the question will disappear by itself!

                Impressive ... laughing but not scary ... lol
                1. Anarchist
                  Anarchist 7 November 2017 11: 47 New
                  +9
                  And it should not ...!
                  The first half was for you ... It should scare! I am so terrified ...
        3. SERGUS
          SERGUS 7 November 2017 10: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Anarchist
          That's just have to start all over again!

          Quote: Anarchist
          Now I will wipe away the tears and go to Barin to work!

          Do not despair, comrade, more optimistic, because the fact that every time we have to start all over again makes us only stronger, our enemies cannot defeat us!
          Happy holiday drinks !
        4. MrK
          MrK 7 November 2017 11: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: Anarchist
          Happy holiday, comrades!

          Thank. And you with a holiday.

          There are such words in a military order
          For which only in heavy combat
          (And even then not always) gets the rights
          Commander raising his company.

          I have long understood the military charter
          And under the full calculation
          Do not hunch for a long time.
          But, the pages of the charter are covered with holes,
          I still haven’t found these words anyway.

          Twentieth year, horses feral gallop.
          Perekop. Echelons. Typhoid haze.
          An intervention bullet flying in the forehead -
          And do not stand under fire at the sixth stake.

          The regiment threw his greatcoat to the wire, -
          But the machine gun is knocking on overcoat cloth.
          And then the commissar said barely audibly: -
          Communists, go ahead! Communists, go ahead!

          On a summer morning, a pomegranate fell into the grass,
          Near Lviv, the outpost lay in a ditch.
          Messerschmitts splashed gasoline
          in the blue -
          And do not stand under fire at the sixth stake.

          Burned bridges On the roads from Brest to Moscow.
          There were soldiers, From a refugee look averting.
          And on the towers Buried in the arable land "KB",
          Heavy raindrops were drying.

          And without a casing
          From Stalingrad apartments
          Bill Maxim
          And Rodimtsev felt the ice.
          And then the commander said barely audibly:
          - Communists, go ahead!
          Communists, go ahead!

          We broke the standards
          Fascist Powers
          Kissed silk guard divisions
          And holding the shaft with knotted fingers,
          Near Lenin In May We passed by the pole ...

          Under the February clouds
          Wind and snow
          But the earth smells iron unshaky.
          The day is approaching.
          A century goes on.
          The bayonets on the guard of the Kremlin are turning dark ...

          Everywhere
          Where the lead tracks are crossed
          Where selfless labor is a great deal,
          Through the ages, forever, forever, to the end:
          - Communists, go ahead!
          Communists, go ahead!
          The author is Alexander Mezhirov. He died in the United States in a house of worship.
        5. White and fluffy
          White and fluffy 8 November 2017 10: 20 New
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          So simple. There is a lord, property, a wreath of surplus product, there is his antipode poor, slave, proletarian. Ladies and gentlemen, one field of a berry.
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      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 09: 07 New
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        November XNUMXth Day -
        Red day calendar.
        Look out your window:
        Everything on the street is red!

        Flags at the gates
        Blazing in flames.
        See, the music is coming
        Where the trams went.

        All people - both young and old -
        Celebrates freedom.
        And my red ball flies
        Straight to the sky!
      4. Vend
        Vend 7 November 2017 10: 12 New
        +6
        Of course it’s more dangerous. He was piled up with finals, Japanese, Germans, and even constantly put sticks in the wheels of the USA in the Soviet period. And to buy them was much more difficult than the rest. How much the United States invested in the project for the collapse of the USSR dough.
      5. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 7 November 2017 10: 19 New
        +8
        Not all capitalists have yet finished off ... with a holiday!
      6. antivirus
        antivirus 7 November 2017 11: 05 New
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        ANSWER TO NIPELBOM — see the number of doctors per 1000 people and the number of teachers at technical colleges in 1900 and beyond + every 10 years
      7. Irokez
        Irokez 7 November 2017 18: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Stroporez
        Our cause is right

        Your business is left.
        Do not confuse the right movement and the left. Left who? That is why your movement is left.
    2. Finches
      Finches 7 November 2017 08: 00 New
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      This is elementary from ignorance! A person does not understand, but you need to be smart, the stomach requires yum-yum! And the capitalist in another case will not give him a deny ..
    3. RASKAT
      RASKAT 7 November 2017 08: 13 New
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      Communists "more dangerous than the Nazis": the withdrawal of a Western specialist

      Well, do not buy anything from China, and in general do not have anything to do with it, they are all (Chinese) Communists.
      Oh these double standards bully
    4. Juborg
      Juborg 7 November 2017 08: 38 New
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      There is nothing worse than American fascism. Millions of exterminated Indians testify to this.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 7 November 2017 10: 25 New
        +1
        08.38. Yuborg! More negro slaves forgotten. By historical standards, only yesterday they removed the tablets, only for whites!
        1. dSK
          dSK 8 November 2017 06: 40 New
          +4
          "Divide and rule". Standard Masonic tricks - pit red, white, green. They set Germany and Japan against the USSR, when the USSR defeated them, okulirovany Germany and Japan, and took up the collapse of the USSR.
          In Chile, Pinochet and Corvalan were Masons, but they were in different "lodges", Pinochet "liquidated" Corvalan, Masons in any situation in the black. Christianity was decomposed: Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, Lutherans, sects cannot be counted at all and everyone is constantly at war with each other. ... The Christian people of the United States are ruled by the puppeteers Rockefellers, Soros and others like them. Christian Europe - Rothschilds. Two tens of millions of very smart and cunning, scattered Jews around the world (not all Jews are Jews). The same story in the Islamic world: Sunnis, Shiites, Alawites are biting. Israel realizes its “over the task” - to restore the temple of Solomon in its former place (they are preparing the coming of the Messiah). To do this, "remove" the Muslim mosque. It has long been proposed to carefully "cut" and transfer to another place. Muslims do not agree yet, and the region is blazing ...
  2. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 7 November 2017 07: 35 New
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    The conclusion of Richard Appelbom: "... He did more harm more likely."
    If we add to all this that it did more harm to the imperialist West and American hegemony, then I agree!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 7 November 2017 08: 03 New
      +9
      And it pleases! So it’s not for nothing that the Communists are fighting against such appelbom ..
      Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
      The conclusion of Richard Appelbom: "... He did more harm more likely."
      If we add to all this that it did more harm to the imperialist West and American hegemony, then I agree!
    2. SERGUS
      SERGUS 7 November 2017 10: 39 New
      +2
      Communists "more dangerous than the Nazis": the withdrawal of a Western specialist

      More dangerous than the Nazis is only American democracy, which has brought so much destruction ... Democracy is a priori a flawed system - it's like living with a prostitute, where everything is for money. The goal of the Democrats is money, if a country has natural resources (count money), it must be enslaved and selected what it has. Democracy is a barbaric system where man to man is a wolf, and why is it better than Nazism?
  3. The brightest
    The brightest 7 November 2017 07: 38 New
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    Of course, for the capitalists, the communist is more dangerous than the fascist, the communists take away the opportunity to exploit the working class, and the capitalists are worse than death.
    1. Evgeny Strygin
      Evgeny Strygin 7 November 2017 07: 59 New
      +3
      fascism-Nazism is quite a capitalism and you can exaggerate the expression "national socialism" a hundred times, but the experience of the first half of the twentieth century shows that anyone who makes this a claim or either considers you an idiot.
    2. Berber
      Berber 7 November 2017 08: 31 New
      +4
      A German fascist is better than a Russian communist. That is the whole idea of ​​this article. And the rest is camouflage.
      1. BAI
        BAI 7 November 2017 09: 39 New
        +6
        A German fascist is better than a Russian communist.

        The next article will be on the topic: "Hitler did the right thing by attacking the USSR."
      2. japs
        japs 7 November 2017 10: 25 New
        +9
        Happy holiday, dear forum users!
        From a distance of 25 years, it is more clearly visible that we lost by going about the corrupt nonhumans - Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Shevarnadzad, Yeltsin and others.
        Sad ...
        "The German fascist is better than the Russian communist." ....
        it says Jew Apfelbaum, money is more important to him than the truth ...
    3. jetfors_84
      jetfors_84 7 November 2017 09: 31 New
      +1
      At the very bull's eye.
  4. Moskovit
    Moskovit 7 November 2017 07: 44 New
    +8
    What are you talking about! Richard, your brothers in Israel can ruin your face for this.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 November 2017 07: 44 New
    15
    Richard Appelbom. In his opinion, the Communists are “much more dangerous than the Nazis”

    Eco wrapped up. Probably who forgot "Apelbomov and various ... mattes" destroyed, and who liberated the camps in which they were. Wretched nature of these Westerners - other people's sins and their betrayal to throw on the Communists (read Russia) for them is a pleasure.
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 7 November 2017 07: 47 New
    +6
    and if there were no little men, then there would be neither one nor the other, in general, nor this mess - humanity ...
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 November 2017 07: 50 New
    0
    And we calmly do our job. And we don’t speak out much. Communist ideology (like any other) after the victory begins to "rot" - to fight with the "windmills" and within itself - if the external enemy has disappeared ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 7 November 2017 08: 09 New
      +3
      What is ideology here? Any sales worthwhile are carried out or ruined by specific PEOPLE !!!
      They stop in development \ get stuck in the "swamp of narcissism" and kirdyk any, the best idea.
      We can of course speculate that the idea has not yet "matured" !!! But you can’t try it here, you won’t know ... and one failed experiment / experience is not there, something absolutely proving !!!
      In any case, it was a GREAT event, of a global scale ... nothing has been finished yet, although for the repetition of such world upheavals ... I would not like to repeat myself.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 7 November 2017 09: 31 New
      +3
      Not ideology, but false ideologists. In our case, this is the “thaw” generation, or rather the thawing itself, which Khrushchev released and cherished.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 November 2017 10: 15 New
        +4
        In our case, this is the generation of the labeled god, and the drunk with thieves and K ...
        For a long time this bodyagie will continue, because "the foam rose sticky \ nasty" ... but this will not settle down very soon !!!
  8. evil partisan
    evil partisan 7 November 2017 07: 51 New
    +5
    Communists "more dangerous than the Nazis": the withdrawal of a Western specialist

    And if enough physical effort is made, then one more congenial conclusion can be made: "But the owl is still stretching to the globe!" yes
  9. Landscaping
    Landscaping 7 November 2017 08: 00 New
    10
    Yes ... After the collapse of the USSR, they received a "market economy" in the wild, weak suns, jocks, a generation of Pepsi iPhones without any principles. Yes and all minorities left the article. We do not need their "values", without them we’ll live, but fascism itself was fostered with its tolerance and it’s not necessary to blame it on a healthy one!
  10. faiver
    faiver 7 November 2017 08: 02 New
    15
    Thanks, he laughed - the Communists in less than 70 years turned an agrarian backward country into an industrial power, which all countries in the world looked around for when making this or that decision, of course there were also some drawbacks, well, and who is not without sin on our mother? hi
    1. Burbon
      Burbon 7 November 2017 08: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: faiver
      thank you laughed - the Communists in less than 70 years turned an agrarian backward country into an industrial power

      wassat belay you studied the history of Trotsky ??? .... first - the materiel, then - to think, then - to write! lol
      1. faiver
        faiver 7 November 2017 08: 29 New
        +8
        would not be dishonored ....
        the phrase "think first and then write" probably refers to you ... hi
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              1. faiver
                faiver 7 November 2017 13: 47 New
                0
                in essence, you don’t need to write crap - how can you study history in Trotsky?
                so you yourself fool
                1. Burbon
                  Burbon 7 November 2017 13: 48 New
                  0
                  Quote: faiver
                  How can one study history in Trotsky?

                  so it’s you and others like you to learn from Trotsky .... well, or from Lenin .....
                  1. faiver
                    faiver 7 November 2017 13: 51 New
                    0
                    those. is the story limited to only these two characters? rest dear, you are bored ... hi
                    1. Burbon
                      Burbon 7 November 2017 13: 55 New
                      0
                      Quote: faiver
                      those. is the story limited to only these two characters?

                      for you and people like you - YES !! ...
                      Quote: faiver
                      bored with you.

                      and I’m not having fun with you .. so it’s mutually belay
                      1. faiver
                        faiver 7 November 2017 15: 37 New
                        0
                        you will "poke" your drinking companion ...
          2. E_V_N
            E_V_N 7 November 2017 09: 38 New
            +4
            Quote: Burbon
            Quote: faiver
            would not be dishonored ....

            fool himself ..... himself ... before the revolution, Russia was one of the leaders in terms of growth, thanks to Lenin, Trotsky, Sverdlov, Zinoviev and their comrades (all Jews) - my country was flooded with blood of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians ... hundreds thousand were killed without trial ..... the country began to degrade quickly ... and only contrary to communism-the people could survive in this hell and build their own state

            Well, yes, Lenin made a revolution from scratch. This is how Lenin, Trotsky, Sverdlov and Zinoviev gathered for a cup of tea, and here Lenin says it is boring, but let's stir up the revolution. So what? But didn’t the first revolution take place in 1905 after the Russo-Japanese one, and the second one, because of the First World War, into which Russia the holy anointed one pulled the country into? Tales about the leadership of the Republic of Ingushetia in terms of growth need not be told here, and even if it were true to the common people, what is the use of this? That the people then became rich, did not starve, but simply chiked if it were so, why did the people harness the revolution? Well, still, it was not Lenin who began the revolution, at first in February 1917 the bourgeoisie staged a revolution, and Lenin only in October.
            1. Burbon
              Burbon 7 November 2017 09: 57 New
              +1
              Quote: E_V_N
              That the people then became rich, did not starve, but just chic

              laughing Of course, right now Zyuganov will come to power and will immediately feed all the destitute and provide housing ... probably, for 70 years of rule the people were well-fed and groomed?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 7 November 2017 10: 18 New
                +6
                No - no - no, I have a shoto in my modern company Zyuganov and K in no way associated with the "leaders of the proletariat" of the past.
                NO!
              2. E_V_N
                E_V_N 8 November 2017 07: 52 New
                +1
                Quote: Burbon
                Quote: E_V_N
                That the people then became rich, did not starve, but just chic

                laughing Of course, right now Zyuganov will come to power and will immediately feed all the destitute and provide housing ... probably, for 70 years of rule the people were well-fed and groomed?

                What does Zyuganov have to do with this, are we talking about the Revolution or are we jumping off the topic right away?
                You know, England at the beginning of the 20th century was much cooler than the Russian Empire, in the industrial sense, it was. There was no revolution in England. So what? The first satellite, the first astronaut, the atomic bomb, universal literacy are English possessions. If there were no Soviet Power in Russia, you would plow the land or work at the factory, rather than sit at the computer, and your education would be at the level of a parish school. Unless of course you begin to claim that you are from the Grand Dukes.
            2. Burbon
              Burbon 7 November 2017 15: 39 New
              0
              Quote: faiver
              you will "poke" your companion ...

              so do not be rude .... and you will not be rude ....
              1. faiver
                faiver 9 November 2017 05: 00 New
                0
                show me where I was naughty?
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 7 November 2017 09: 34 New
        +2
        And what does Trotsky have to do with turning Russia into a superpower? Is it only negative.
    2. Irokez
      Irokez 7 November 2017 10: 11 New
      0
      Quote: faiver
      Thanks, he laughed - the Communists in less than 70 years turned an agrarian backward country into an industrial power, which all countries in the world looked around for when making this or that decision, of course there were also some drawbacks, well, and who is not without sin on our mother? hi

      Dear, you either learned the school material well about the light of Lenin and the Communists or wrote one thing, but they understand you differently. Even in ancient China there was a good saying or wish: - "God forbid you to live in an era of change" and the other "The best enemy of the good" and "What we have is not appreciated, but lost, appreciated."
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHPZCWCE8cI&i
      ndex=9&list=PLF37876D72662ACB8

      And then we get the result of the "Great Revolution."
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtMP9ce-sHM&i
      ndex=29&list=PLF37876D72662ACB8
      1. faiver
        faiver 7 November 2017 11: 49 New
        +1
        as soon as I heard about the genocide of the 20-30x, I didn’t look any further ... hi
        tell tales about how good it was with the king-priest to someone else ...
        1. Irokez
          Irokez 7 November 2017 11: 51 New
          0
          Quote: faiver
          tell tales about how good it was with the king-priest to someone else ...

          tell tales about how good it was under revolutionaries to anyone else ...
          1. E_V_N
            E_V_N 8 November 2017 07: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Irokez
            Quote: faiver
            tell tales about how good it was with the king-priest to someone else ...

            tell tales about how good it was under revolutionaries to anyone else ...

            I lived in the USSR, and you?
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 8 November 2017 11: 30 New
              0
              Quote: E_V_N
              I lived in the USSR, and you?

              He lived. He also wrote notes and congresses of the party as a compulsory subject and also thought that they had freed us from slavery. But then he began to study the subject more carefully by the available information and a little received his sight. You are probably confusing the time of people's lives immediately after the revolution, and already under Khrushchev and Brezhnev when it was quite comfortable and wonderful to live under the so-called developed socialism. These are, after all, two different eras, and you measure them with one measure, considering that both here and there were the same. Believe me, no, and if Tsarist Russia provided almost all of Europe with bread, then under the first communists they themselves were starving and, like, even the Holodomor was blamed on us all, and this is under the communist revolutionaries.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 8 November 2017 12: 07 New
                0
                Quote: Irokez
                Believe me, no, and if Tsarist Russia provided almost all of Europe with bread

                let's just leave the liberal myths about crispy french rolls
                In 1913, the Russian Empire exported 530 million pounds of all grain, which amounted to 6,3% of European countries' consumption.
                at the same time, in Russia itself, the peasants simply had nothing to eat. and she couldn’t feed anyone, the extremely low productivity, the almost complete absence of mechanization, the illiteracy of the peasants did not allow the use of equipment that was used for the whole of RI by units and new agricultural technologies
                Quote: Irokez
                then under the first communists they themselves were starving and, like, even the famine was

                re-read the magazine “light”, RI starved ALL of her story, often peasants literally ate grass, the terrifying child mortality would be enough for these tales
                1. Irokez
                  Irokez 8 November 2017 12: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  enough of these tales

                  I’ll tell you this too.


                  In addition, Russia is a huge territory and in different regions different productivity and poverty. If you take the Cossacks, then it never starved, and if you take the northern regions, then everything agricultural was risky and ineffective. It and to this day in Russia are less favorable conditions for farming in comparison with other countries as well as industrial production. All this is due to the colder climate, which brings negatives to the economy. Therefore, the Russian economy is less efficient compared to others, but nevertheless they are compared with other countries without a correction factor, and sometimes they are silent for comparing someone.
                  Propaganda is doing its job.
                  - Tsarism promotes its
                  - its bourgeoisie
                  - The Communists
                  - his liberals
                  - The socialists
                  - your shit
                  And to us ordinary people whom to focus on? This is where there is an interesting thing as common sense, that is, to study everyone and only then with your own brains to figure out what we need in this period of life.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 8 November 2017 13: 08 New
                    0
                    Quote: Irokez
                    In addition, Russia is a huge territory and in different regions different productivity and poverty. If you take the Cossacks, then it never starved, and if you take the northern regions

                    don't change shoes
                    did you declare feeding Europe, did I indicate this in numbers, will you indicate in numbers the amount of grain per capita, or will you find it yourself?
                    Quote: Irokez
                    Therefore, the Russian economy is less efficient compared to others, but nevertheless they are compared with other countries without a correction factor, and sometimes they are silent for comparing someone.

                    do not compare green with round
                    1. Irokez
                      Irokez 8 November 2017 13: 18 New
                      0
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      do not compare green with round

                      Well, well, let everything be gray, we just look at one truth from different sides of the coin.
                      If you look at the cylinder from above, then the projection of what you see will be a circle, and if you look from the side, the projection of the cylinder will be a rectangle. I try to look at the cylinder from all sides (at least in isometry), and some superpatriots (fans) only look at one side and they can not be convinced that it is not a square or a circle, but a cylinder. It all depends on access to information only from above, only from the side or from all sides.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 9 November 2017 11: 11 New
                        0
                        Quote: Irokez
                        we are just looking at one truth from different sides of the coin.

                        you state that everything was wonderful
                        Europe was fed, industry developed by leaps and bounds, people flourished
                        I am using numbers to show you that this is not true
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 8 November 2017 10: 17 New
            0
            Quote: Irokez
            tell tales about how good it was under revolutionaries to anyone else ...

            Well, if you compare with the king the priest, then yes it got better
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 8 November 2017 11: 47 New
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              Well, if you compare with the king the priest, then yes it got better

              In my answer for E_V_N there is an answer to your question. It all depends on the time of the rule of the communist revolutionaries. Let's just say before the Second World War and after the Second World War.
              If the Bolsheviks got the power, they now had to get out and equip the country (you know, the situation obliges you). But it was like in a bank among scorpions and the strongest, cunning and wise remained. Trotsky would have won if today's North Korea had been without human exploitation by man, but there his own theory and idea of ​​Juche, by the way, also advocating equality, order and discipline, and so on. By the way, it is indicative that the DPRK is almost the same distant post-revolutionary years before the Second World War.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 8 November 2017 12: 09 New
                0
                Quote: Irokez
                It all depends on the time of the rule of the communist revolutionaries.

                at ANY time
                the village did not get worse, the standard of living of the Russian peasantry in the Republic of Ingushetia was a terrible famine that reproach the Communists was a common occurrence in the Republic of Ingushetia
                1. Irokez
                  Irokez 8 November 2017 13: 33 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  RI was a terrible famine that reproach the Communists was a common occurrence in RI

                  Wah, wah, wah and this despite the fact that the population grew steadily in the Republic of Ingushetia, and in the first decade after the revolution fell. Somehow does not fit in the head. It seems that you are biased towards RI (the prison of peoples probably associated with RI in your head) seeing everything bad in it, but as always keep silent about the good (like it wasn’t).
                  By the way, the NEP is a sprout taken from capitalism, and how could the Communists allow it (not really werewolves), and then liquidate it again (werewolves squared).
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 9 November 2017 11: 21 New
                    0
                    Quote: Irokez
                    Wah, wah, wah and this despite the fact that the population has grown steadily in the Republic of Ingushetia

                    don't wang
                    According to surveys (1887-1896), the proportion of deceased children under five years of age on average in Russia was 43,2%, and in some provinces more than 50%

                    in 1905, out of every 1000 deaths of both sexes in 50 provinces of European Russia, 5 dead were children

                    and the population grew due to high birth rates
                    According to demographers, the Russian peasant woman of this period (the turn of the 7th – 9th centuries - approx.) Gave birth on average 6,8–17 times. The average number of deliveries by peasants in the Tambov province was 1897 times, and a maximum of 1901. Here are some extracts from the report of the gynecological department of the Tambov province provincial hospital for XNUMX, XNUMX

                    The famine of 1892, exacerbated by the epidemics of cholera, smallpox and typhoid, caused the last acute mortality crisis in the Russian Empire. During the years of such crises, life expectancy dropped to 26-28 years for women and up to 25 years for men

                    The total amount of hunger losses for 50 pre-revolutionary years from 1861 to 1917 amounted to approximately 5,4 million people.
  11. San Sanych
    San Sanych 7 November 2017 08: 06 New
    +9
    For the bourgeois, exploiters and bloodsuckers, the Communists are certainly more dangerous! laughing
  12. Alex66
    Alex66 7 November 2017 08: 16 New
    11
    There would be no communism, there would be no fascism, I agree, fascism was created by the West to destroy communism, the Fuhrer did not appear on his own and came to power. And communism, and this must be remembered, gave a free education, even higher education, free medicine, social equality, not in words how many peasants and workers became bosses, professors, gave housing, solved the problem of hunger. Communism laid the foundation and on its basis it was only necessary to carry out redecorating, replacing part of the systems, and we were convinced that European plywood houses are better and we destroyed our house to the ground and only now realizes that it is a beautiful punk house.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 7 November 2017 09: 35 New
      +1
      Invalid output. There is no longer that communism that, as you say, has generated fascism. But American fascism is flourishing and trying to take over the whole world.
  13. Million
    Million 7 November 2017 08: 17 New
    11
    They are still afraid of the communists!
  14. FID
    FID 7 November 2017 08: 22 New
    14
    Happy holiday to all who ... I am a communist, communists - go ahead !!!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 7 November 2017 10: 21 New
      +5
      Happy holiday to you comrades
      I am not a communist, but I accept the event of the revolution as a great milestone in the history of MY country.
  15. Rey_ka
    Rey_ka 7 November 2017 08: 32 New
    0
    The fact is that democracy and a market economy recognize human imperfection

    The fact that a person is not perfect is understandable without democracy and the market. God created the semi-finished product and made it possible for man himself to improve. But man as a slave to instincts and lust has spoiled everything and deserves only humiliation and oblivion!
  16. Bykov.
    Bykov. 7 November 2017 08: 36 New
    +6
    Communists "more dangerous than the Nazis": the withdrawal of a Western specialist

    Cap is right. After all, it was they who defeated the fascists.
  17. Old military officer
    Old military officer 7 November 2017 08: 39 New
    11
    Congratulations to all on the greatest (for us) holiday on Earth, the 100th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution! As for Mr. Appelbom’s assessment of this event, it is typical and it would be ridiculous to expect something else. Ek their roots from only one word "communism". So everything is right and we will win despite a temporary defeat and retreat, but we will win. They know and feel it, therefore they howl.
  18. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 7 November 2017 08: 43 New
    12
    I don’t know, gentlemen, whether you have a holiday or not, but we have a holiday at the state level, which means today is a day off repeat So who honors the story? wink Lukashenko, sitting on fifteen chairs, or you, lost in your "days of unity" request
    I have a holiday drinks hi And you?.......
    PS Hello oligarchs wink repeat
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 7 November 2017 09: 49 New
      +6
      They, gentlemen, are certainly not a holiday, but we have at least a day for the Comrades to think / comprehend and draw the right conclusions ....
      To argue / persuade the victims of the USE sect, only to lose time ... they are not trained to think .... the lost generation is basically, can we later, when life takes it over / scratches it ???
  19. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 09: 02 New
    +6
    Not a Russian revolution, so the Nazis would not have appeared in Germany!

    yeah ?!
    here's the news
    and why such a "smart" conclusion ?!
    I’m silent about the fact that if it had not been for the October Revolution, there would have been no capitalism with a human face or other social weaknesses in the West
  20. demo
    demo 7 November 2017 09: 07 New
    +2
    Especially for the columnist Dude.
    if you take a look at something, then take the trouble to delve into the history of the communist movement.
    Who is the organizer, which ideas were based on, who is the driving force. Goals and objectives, the program of parties and movements.
    And then it becomes clear - which bunny has such ears!
    Superficiality and superficiality.
    And Western journalists who write such articles are on very shaky ground.
    For revolutionary movements, in their essence, were fueled by a single, but very evil nation.
    They always lacked freedom, equality and fraternity.
    And what these slogans have led us, citizens of the former USSR, to know better than anyone else.
    I don’t remember who said - ....... the diabolical leaven of all revolutions.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 7 November 2017 09: 39 New
      +5
      What did you want to say, my friend?
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 7 November 2017 10: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: NordUral
        What did you want to say, my friend?

        That he was digging. lol
      2. japs
        japs 7 November 2017 10: 43 New
        +5
        He said, but it was painfully foggy, either Jews or Zionists.
        It would be determined whether ideology or one nation ... is to blame.
        Very wrinkles visible ...
    2. BAI
      BAI 7 November 2017 09: 42 New
      +5
      at the expense of one, but very evil nation.

      Finally! And then I began to worry - such a day, but the Jews still have not been remembered.
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 09: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: demo
      And what these slogans have led us, citizens of the former USSR, to know better than anyone else.

      to what?!
      probably to the fact that you can tryndet in nete, and not work for 16 hours at the machine without social guarantees
    4. Irokez
      Irokez 7 November 2017 10: 59 New
      0
      Quote: demo
      Who is the organizer, which ideas were based on, who is the driving force. Goals and objectives, the program of parties and movements.
      And then it becomes clear - which bunny has such ears!

      Think Colonel correctly.
  21. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 7 November 2017 09: 13 New
    +7
    Happy holiday of the Great October Socialist Revolution! Hooray!!! Comrades, what this Amerikosovsky wrote is not surprising to us, the correctness of the theory of the development of socialism and communism is now being demonstrated by CHINA and the Chinese Communist Party, notice how all our economic and political liberals have quieted down after the CCP congress and especially after its decisions, even politics from authorities edr ... something muttering indistinctly, but not something to say. It turns out in 1991 that we had roughly equal economic indicators with China, even with us, where China is a little higher and where we are. I think everything else can be thought out.
  22. Altona
    Altona 7 November 2017 09: 14 New
    +4
    Nazism and fascism arise as a reaction of capitalism to the class identity of the proletariat. In this the Swede is right. And the Communists are more dangerous than the Nazis only for the capitalists and their minions. As for economic development and the suppression of “freedoms”, it’s nonsense, because the USSR was ahead of the capitalists in a number of issues. The Swede in this case works out the master's soup and the task of the editor-in-chief well. But in any other cases, for our country and with our mentality, we need socialism so that the writers of the imperialists do not speak.
  23. Shurale
    Shurale 7 November 2017 09: 21 New
    +8
    He is right, communism is deadly for the ruling elite, he didn’t even lie. But for the general population, the opposite is true.
  24. Altona
    Altona 7 November 2017 09: 24 New
    +7
    Long live the Great October Revolution, which showed us the way to the future! Down with the bourgeois republic and its liberal capitalist ministers! Down with the restorers of the monarchy and estates who want to consolidate their privileges! Happy Holidays, comrades!
  25. NordUral
    NordUral 7 November 2017 09: 26 New
    +9
    How are you, my friend, shaking from communism. Yes, communism is worse than fascism, but only for capitalism and fascism itself, one of the forms of capitalism.
    And about the suppression of economic development, especially in the Stalinist period, you would have been better off silent. It was this "suppressed" development that made the West grow the middle class with its well-being. And it was precisely the suppression of communist ideas and the collapse of the Union deformed by the “thawed” and their children that allowed the West to become a beast again.
    And do not hope that communism has sunk into oblivion, it will return to our country when we all come to our senses and get up from our knees.

    Congratulations to all members of the forum on the October holiday, a real holiday, and not the farce of the false unity of hyenas and rams! We were deceived in the 80s, but the truth will strike its way.
  26. Uncle Vanya Susanin
    Uncle Vanya Susanin 7 November 2017 09: 27 New
    +3
    Nazism is an extract of capitalism, therefore, of course, communism is one hundred times more dangerous for them!
  27. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS 7 November 2017 09: 28 New
    +1
    But the Germans did not forget to mention that the coup was made with their money.
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 7 November 2017 10: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: Eugene RS
      But the Germans did not forget to mention that the coup was made with their money.

      And why are the Russian authorities ashamed to mention on whose money the coup in 1991 took place?)
  28. K-50
    K-50 7 November 2017 09: 41 New
    +2
    Communists "much more dangerous than the Nazis"

    Maybe because it’s not customary to scold your "child"? recourse
  29. Stepan Kudinov
    Stepan Kudinov 7 November 2017 09: 59 New
    +7
    Therefore, they are afraid of the restoration of Soviet power like fire. These Ovsk shit-democrats and geyropeytsy will again have to be leveled at Russia, because only in Russia "a person passes as a master ..."
  30. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 7 November 2017 10: 01 New
    0
    So think not only the western echsperds but also the current Russian government. But they are not afraid of the current Communists of Zyuganov’s bottling, they have long since sold the dream to a golden calf, but such as Udaltsov.
  31. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 7 November 2017 10: 11 New
    +7
    All the holiday!
  32. 1536
    1536 7 November 2017 10: 27 New
    +6
    Yes, if it were not for the revolution in Russia in the 1917 year, in the United States Negroes would still be enslaved, and without Obama. The population of Africa would simply be destroyed by the British, Germans and other Spaniards along with rhinos and elephants. And this is in the scenario that Hitler Germany would not have launched military orbital vehicles into space and would not have begun to destroy the "exceptional" themselves, dropping atomic bombs on them, by right, even more "exceptional" ones.
    Fidel Castro once said in one of his speeches that if it were not for the October Revolution, if not for the Soviet Union, the countries of the West would have long fought among themselves with the possibility of destroying all of humanity.
  33. alfa19638
    alfa19638 7 November 2017 10: 31 New
    +5
    Communism is death for the capitalists and their accomplices! Think liberals and other haters of our Great Socialist Motherland!
    Happy Great October Socialist Revolution!
  34. Eurodav
    Eurodav 7 November 2017 10: 37 New
    0
    Quote: juborg
    There is nothing worse than American fascism. Millions of exterminated Indians testify to this.

    But there is no American fascism in nature, there is Zionist fascism, and wherever you go, even in the era of the Indians you mentioned, the ears of Zionism stick out everywhere ... Therefore, the actions of the same mattresses are senselessly cruel, wherever they appear ... Someone said Muslims are cruel, but they are lambs compared to these ... Here is an example:
    "The order of Caliph to the Arab conquerors in 637 read:" You must not be treacherous, dishonest or unrestrained, you must not mutilate prisoners, kill children and the elderly, chop or burn palm trees or fruit trees, kill sheep, cows or camels, do not touch those who devote himself to prayer in his cell. "
    The order of "Jehovah", according to Deuteronomy XX, 16, says otherwise: "And in the cities of these nations, which the Lord your God gives you into your possession, do not leave a single soul alive."
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 7 November 2017 10: 56 New
      +4
      What difference does it ... Zionism, fascism ... any extreme religious "filling" of ideology is not for all the good !!!
      There is the power of the rich \ owners \ capital, there are problems \ suffering of all the poor! A fundamental contradiction ... further from this and dance.
      The Bolsheviks / Communists tried to destroy this contradiction as such! What \ how it happened, we decide, the descendants.
      And then to the best of their knowledge and beliefs. I believe the matter was GREAT ... execution, the people who led this process turned out to be, to put it mildly. not those !!!
      Nothing is finished yet ... society does not stand still. We’ll wait, maybe someone will see how it all ends / continues.
  35. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 7 November 2017 10: 51 New
    +3
    Congratulations to all on the 100 summer anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution!
    Happy Holidays Comrades!
  36. pvv113
    pvv113 7 November 2017 11: 09 New
    +2
    Vestmanlands Läns Tidning is owned by Swedish liberals. And the Swedes, being considered neutral, did their best to help the Nazis during the war years. By the way, volunteers were also sent - 500 Swedish Nazis fought in the German armed forces. 72 of them were captured.
    This explains why they do not like communism
  37. Altona
    Altona 7 November 2017 11: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: Eugene RS
    But the Germans did not forget to mention that the coup was made with their money.

    --------------------------------------------
    The queen was a German spy as liberal newspapers wrote, Trotsky was an American spy so came from his uncle, an American banker. The White Guards fought with the money of the British and the Americans and the Entente in general. The Tsar dragged Russia into the war, as he owed much to the French. Money and espionage are everywhere, but for some reason only Lenin is considered a German spy. In general, the February coup was arranged by the British intrigues. As regards Germany’s money, Germany apparently gave Lenin “per diem,” since it’s difficult to count miserable 50 marks as money.
    PS By sending Lenin a spy, Germany apparently pursued the goal of making Russia a powerful power. laughing laughing
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 November 2017 12: 21 New
      +1
      You have gathered all the bikes together. This is entertaining. thank drinks
      (Rasputin, for some reason, was forgotten belay )
  38. iouris
    iouris 7 November 2017 12: 08 New
    0
    Richard Appelbaum is not a Swede, but a Jew, a representative of one of those families that rule in this underworld. His conclusion is worth a lot. In Germany, Communists, led by Ernst Thalmann, could come to power, but they decided that the Nazis were less dangerous.
  39. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 November 2017 12: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Irokez
    tell tales about how good it was under revolutionaries to anyone else ...

    And how did you live and experience the "bloody Bolshevik regime" in your own skin? That you are allergic to the Soviet Union can be seen from all your comments, as well as the fact that you are familiar with history by the "historian-philosopher" Chubais (brother), Sytin, Gozman ...
    The Iroquois gathered with Bourbon and decided to teach all the stories.
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 9 November 2017 08: 58 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The Iroquois gathered with Bourbon and decided to teach all the stories.

      There is no respected Rotmistr (nickname why, by the way, from the empire they took to see the genes there). I do not have an allergy to the USSR during developed socialism, but there are complaints by the time all this was wrapped up, tossed and turned and subsequently packed in the form of sauce for posterity, which was bad, but we did well.
      To see the truth, you need to jump out of the aquarium and understand that it is not in the sea-ocean, but in a beautiful bank. Sometimes knowledge needs to be questioned and cross-checked for the final approval of knowledge, and if you take the word to all the media and leadership, then this is self-deception and blind submission to the current ideology.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 9 November 2017 10: 27 New
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        Quote: Irokez
        Sometimes knowledge needs to be questioned and cross-checked for the final approval of knowledge

        that's why you post such nonsense?
        Tsarist Russia provided almost all of Europe with bread
  40. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 7 November 2017 12: 37 New
    +2
    Surely the Jews who write about this yearn for the times when their grandfathers worked as overseers and heads of gas chambers in concentration camps. Their name was KAPO.
  41. Radikal
    Radikal 7 November 2017 12: 53 New
    +2
    By the centenary of the Russian revolution, European experts are in a hurry to make the next historical and even alternative-futurological discoveries. One such discovery was made by Richard Appelbom. In his opinion, the Communists are "much more dangerous than the Nazis."
    So the fascists believed! sad
  42. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 14: 10 New
    +1
    After all, the Communists in power suppress democracy, tolerance, economic development
    then what kind of economic breakthrough in the USSR was not dreamed of by any cap in a country from a country in which there were 10 tractors, we became the first to fly into space
  43. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2017 14: 15 New
    0
    Irokez,
    Quote: Irokez
    In the 50s and 60s, when Khrushchev was already in power, achievements and breakthroughs in the economy were compared with the years of tsarist Russia (I don’t remember exactly 13, 14 or 15) and still caught up with these years.

    first you read about those "successes" and then you will remember 13, 14 or 15 years
    if you had 2 tractors yesterday and today 6 then this is not a success, but a defeat if you consider that the neighbor yesterday was under 1000
    Quote: Irokez
    So if it weren’t for the revolution, what would have happened. Just think about such comparisons. Yes, there was World War II, but it would not have existed if it had not been for the World Revolution.

    if it weren’t for the revolution, then we would have starved to death and infant mortality would have been under 80%
    not to mention the fact that most likely we would be stupidly torn by neighbors
  44. Orionvit
    Orionvit 7 November 2017 14: 23 New
    +1
    After all, the Communists in power suppress democracy, tolerance, economic development.
    I mixed everything upside down. They suppress democracy (in the Western liberal version), tolerance, that’s fine, but why do we need to drag the economy here. This understudied scribbler forgot how the USSR twice completely recovered almost from ruins. In the 30s and 50s, and in terms of economic development, the Stalinist USSR, no one had ever caught up.
  45. Orionvit
    Orionvit 7 November 2017 16: 27 New
    +1
    Irokez,
    So you can say about everything like that: it formed itself, organized themselves, just lay, just took it or no one wanted it.
    They picked it up because, none of the revolutionary parties, despite their many years of struggle with the autocracy, actually turned out to be racketeers and populists, no one had a clear program and no one really knew what to do next with this power. Neither the Cadets, nor the essays, nor all the Octobrists there, nor anyone except the Bolsheviks. If they read correctly, then I have written, not only about taking power, but also about the responsibility that any power bears.
  46. albert
    albert 7 November 2017 17: 36 New
    +1
    It seems that now we don’t have communists, and the West is once again forming fascist countries, and at the same time they say that if it were not for the victory of the October Revolution. there would be no Hitler. Lies.
  47. Evgeny Strygin
    Evgeny Strygin 7 November 2017 20: 00 New
    0
    more dangerous than the enemy.
  48. Radikal
    Radikal 8 November 2017 01: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: albert
    It seems that now we don’t have communists, and the West is once again forming fascist countries, and at the same time they say that if it were not for the victory of the October Revolution. there would be no Hitler. Lies.

    Hitler “appeared” when the West realized that the USSR could not be taken just like that ...! sad
  49. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 8 November 2017 11: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    All on the occasion of the Great October Socialist Revolution !!! Ura-Ura-Uraaaaaaaaaaaa! Our cause is just

    Thank you and all the Russian people for giving the world a revolution!
    But the Communists are not more dangerous, but they only pose a danger to capitalism, and at the same time they beat the Nazis.