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Not urgent in the room. You are not, but pay for participation in the Olympics

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I like the guys from the IOC. I just love to read about serious people who are engaged in combining sports and politics. Why? After all, there is a musk ox in nature! Somehow, after all, they are united. Sheep and bull. I have not seen this animal for a long time. Somehow it does not draw me into the world of wildlife. But to hear something about this miracle of nature - heard.




Only here what the IOC representatives in Prague at the plenary session of the Association of National Olympic Committees talked about yesterday reminds me more of the work of other biologists. Those who in Hollywood films cross garbage and cockroaches. So that people live on our planet more fun. Why? Lies on the floor a pile of garbage, do not pass not pass. He pressed the switch ... The garbage through the gaps itself ran away. Clean - the guarantee of health!

Talking about numerous doping scandals is already so annoying that they don’t cause much attention from the public. Someone from the townsfolk still doubts the medical support of professional athletes? Someone really thinks that an ordinary, without “feeding” person can show such serious results in high-performance sports? Or that recovering from all loads is possible as soon as possible?

In general, we live happily, as one Russian humorist said. Russian skiers are still "shaking" on a tip from the commission of Richard McLaren for consumption of doping. Moreover, our skiers Alexander Legkov and Evgeny Belov were found guilty of using this very doping and decided to annul their results at the races at the Olympic Games in Sochi. And this already after it turned out that this very McLaren had craped with his conclusions.

I don’t want to be the victim. Violated - get the full. Especially since such healthy guys like these Legkov and Belov compete practically with people with disabilities from Northern Europe. Look at the teams in Norway, Finland and a few more countries. There is not a single healthy person. Completely asthmatics. We should even be ashamed of simply competing with these disabled people.

We often write that the West is not learning anything about Russia. That Europeans and other Americans continue to bend their line, even when it is obvious to everyone that this line, to put it bluntly, twitches like crap. Alas, upset readers. The West is a great student.

Remember the beautiful gesture with our delegation in the PACE? When "we do not want to listen to parliamentarians from an aggressor country"? Like, let them sit in a corner and learn normal democracy. Well, sat down. They waited for these idiots to understand that without us nothing can be solved in Europe. Not wait. And then remember? "Guys, at this performance, we are not satisfied with the price. We decided not to buy anymore." And what is the result?

And the result is simple. It turned out that one "spectator" paid most of all these "artists". And when he left, there was nothing to eat. It began in the "troupe of the European theater" reel. "Bring the viewer back! Let him not only sit, but clap! We agree!"

About the same thing happened in Prague. All these leaders of national committees have learned well the lesson of PACE. I will not bore you with my own conclusions. the phrase voiced by the head of the ROC Alexander Zhukov is quite enough: "IOC President Thomas Bach and Janez Kocioncic also said this, and said that Russian athletes who are not guilty of anything should not suffer."

For those who do not understand the situation, I will explain. In order to "punish" Russia, it is necessary to punish OCD. And for this you need to find athletes who took doping at the behest of this very OCD. Or to prove that OCD knew about taking illegal drugs, but hid this information. From practice, readers can already conclude how this will be done. there will be someone's statement. Then there will be a solution. And after the Olympics, it turns out that the applicant lied. But "the train is already gone" in history.

In this case, the IOC will remove the national QA from work and impose a ban on the participation of "dirty" athletes in the Olympics. Thus, the country is deprived of the right to participate in the Olympics and, accordingly, to participate in all ceremonies. And this means that there will be no Russian flag at the Games, there will be no Russian anthem, there will not even be athletes in Russian uniform. There will be, as it was once the "sportsmen-olimpioniki" in general. And they will perform under the Olympic flag!

And this is where the "dog is buried"! Athletes have to live on some money. For some money to train. Pay contributions to the federation to be able to speak. And who should pay? Who has such funds? That's right, the country must pay, which is not!

I did not for nothing remind readers of the PACE. Today, "play" in the same game. Only in the role of "spectators" of this "new theater" are not the parliamentarians, but athletes. Now they must endure humiliation for the sake of the coveted Olympic medal. Now they should be spat upon.

I really liked the instant reaction of our hockey players to such an offer. Still, hockey is really a game of men. In every sense of the word. ROC Vice President Gennady Timchenko: “The hockey team cannot perform in Pkhenchkhan under a neutral flag, and it’s just that, it would be strange. In general, the head of state has clearly said how we feel about a possible decision on admitting Russia to participate in Olympics under some incomprehensible flag. "

Honestly, the money for the participation of our athletes in the Olympics is absolutely not a pity. They deserved such an honor. They deserve their victories. Labor, then, blood, health deserved. But these are Russian sportsmen! They represent Russia, not some kind of structure. Let even such a respected, as the IOC. And they must compete, including for their country. Under the banner of his country and the anthem of his country.

Now you just need to return you, dear readers, a few days ago. Moreover, Gennady Timchenko reminded about this. I hope there are no readers who doubt the competence of the Russian president in matters of international politics. Including, in the competence in those "undercover games", which is not customary to talk openly.

Remember the speech of Vladimir Putin on the Valdai forum? But it was precisely there that Putin openly declared that serious pressure was being put on the IOC in order to force Russia to perform under a neutral flag or not to speak at all at the Olympics! Putin never says anything unless the information is verified and re-checked many times. The Russian president has such information!

"We have no complaints about the International Olympic Committee, there are very decent people, business people. But they also depend on advertisers, on television channels, on sponsors, and so on. And these sponsors, in turn, receive unambiguous signals from certain American instances, and we don't just guess about it, but we know about it. "

If a little closer look at the open press and analyze the statements, then even the list of countries-opponents of Russian athletes is known. Who cares, see the materials of the meeting of representatives of the National Anti-Doping Organizations (NADO) in Denver. It is there that you will see all the "guardians for the purity of the sport" in full. All 17! And what do you think, who in the "Glavnuki"? Naturally, USA, UK, Canada ...

I do not envy the IOC now. The position of "snake in the pan" is really not enviable. On the one hand, there are millions from companies that are controlled by "guardians." On the other hand, there are millions from Russia and Russian companies. Yes, and spectator interest in the Games. Agree, Games without the Russian national team will be short. This, too, was already in the past.

But our position, no matter how pitiful those who prepared to play at the Games, should be simple. Or full participation. Or full-fledged, including the possible withdrawal of OCD from the IOC in general, non-participation. Politics and sport are incompatible in principle. And the Olympic slogan that we see at every Games (“O sport, you are the world!”) Must always be implemented.

Otherwise, why do we need the Olympic Games? Another World Cup format? Maybe my point of view is radical. But honestly, I respect our athletes. I respect our country. I respect our people. And I will not give the opportunity to spit on this my personal respect. Want to humiliate? Try it.
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  1. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 7 November 2017 15: 45
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    This began during the USSR. Today, Russians are not allowed at the Olympics, tomorrow the Chinese will follow. It’s time to organize a real IOC and all that wants to compete on the sports field - please. And all who will be engaged in a political show will remain empty in today's IOC.
    1. d ^ Amir
      d ^ Amir 7 November 2017 15: 53
      14
      was already .... "Goodwill Games" was called ....
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 7 November 2017 19: 36
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        Quote: d ^ Amir
        Kostadinov Today, 15:45 New
        This began during the USSR. Today, Russians are not allowed at the Olympics, tomorrow the Chinese will follow. It’s time to organize a real IOC and all that wants to compete on the sports field - please. And all who will be engaged in a political show will remain empty in today's IOC.
        Kostadinov

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        d ^ Amir Today, 15:53 ↑ New
        was already .... "Goodwill Games" was called ....

        Here and revive the "Goodwill Games", only under new slogans.
        IOC allows athletes of selected countries (USA, UK and others) to use illegal drugs? Fine! Then let it be an Olympiad for "patients" who cannot live without doping. And the IOC will be the IOC for the "dirty" and "sick."
        For healthy athletes, it is necessary to establish the appropriate IOC and an anti-doping agency for "clean" and "healthy" athletes. And start the "pure Olympics". And it’s nothing that the first will be athletes from 5-6 countries (and if the selection is not from sports federations, but directly, according to the results of the competition, then a dozen of two or three countries will be represented at a minimum). In the end, the "dirty" IOC will lose.
        1. yehat
          yehat 8 November 2017 15: 07
          0
          all these bikotas, alternative games are an extreme case, as are appearances under a neutral flag. There are also lawyers - the spirit of the law must be respected, not its letter
          and in spirit there should not be any bans on a national basis.
          So let them defend, there are at least a few professionals.
          Bans under far-fetched pretexts are nonsense
    2. 210ox
      210ox 7 November 2017 15: 57
      18
      But this will not work with the Chinese, the caliber is not the same .. We have it vigorously and do their tricks, then the athletes and we mop up and go further spat on. For politics has become impotent in many matters. And maybe the fact is that the sanctions are all do they act ..? On our top.?
      Quote: Kostadinov
      This began during the USSR. Today, Russians are not allowed at the Olympics, tomorrow the Chinese will follow. It’s time to organize a real IOC and all that wants to compete on the sports field - please. And all who will be engaged in a political show will remain empty in today's IOC.
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 7 November 2017 17: 37
        +3
        Not everything is simple, first the chairs then the money. And no talk.
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 03: 26
        +5
        Quote: 210ox
        But with the Chinese it will not work, the caliber is not the same ..

        Well, just right now we'll see if it doesn’t work, take it off or it will pass !!! wink laughing laughing laughing German Mudazon just released a film about them !!! laughing laughing China was quietly silent when Russia was pressed, and now they have taken up !!!! hi hi hi
      3. yehat
        yehat 8 November 2017 13: 11
        +6
        China was not easy either. Their athletes at the Olympic Games were constantly monitored by the CIA. I don’t know how they manage, but in fact only the growth of the economy and the army stops the especially zealous trolls of China. Now a scandal erupts on the statement of the emigrating doctor that all Chinese Olympic training is based on doping.
        But I will say so - look at swimming with any style, but better crawl. All athletes who do not choke after the finish line need to be removed without analysis. An organism cannot function normally without oxygen. And look who these people are. You will be surprised, but these are Americans, Japanese, Australians, British, and some (rarely) other Europeans, and alas, Chinese in general, the color of the world of democracy. And eastern Europe, after swimming, almost all die. Here you can see where the formatsovtika is driving, and not the sport.
        We had loud swimming champions - Popov, Korotyshkin, Salnikov. look how they look after a swim.
        Well, the clowning with Norwegian asthmatics skiing is just sheer insanity. And these moral ones still manage to run into someone in bouts of righteous anger!
        Moreover, among them there are relatively normal ones, which reach more due to the transfusion of blood collected in the highlands, but this is also not a sport.
      4. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 8 November 2017 16: 25
        +5
        ... I respect our athletes. I respect our country. I respect our people. And I will not give the opportunity to spit on this my personal respect. Want to humiliate? Give it a try.
        It is a pity that in the same way and sincerely our Russian authority cannot say, because it respects only loot! The authorities categorically do not care about the respect of citizens, therefore, even with all the desire, there is nothing to cling to.
    3. Vend
      Vend 7 November 2017 15: 59
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      It's time to repeat the story of the refusal to pay. We are not, there is no money.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 7 November 2017 16: 39
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        Vend
        It's time to repeat the story of the refusal to pay. We are not, there is no money.

        Correctly! This is the most appropriate device - all the more so, given the dominance of liberal market ideology and pragmatism.
        No need to pay corrupt IOC officials! Unfortunately, we have to sacrifice Russian athletes now to either win now or stop this disgrace for the future.
        Also, you need to impose sanctions against those provocateurs - not even necessarily in relation to the leaders of the IOC, but also in relation to specific foreign persons - provocateurs and those who press on the "advertisers" of the media in the media. Etc. Create against them, a kind of "Anti-Magnitsky Lists"! After all, our Russian services are well aware of who can be talked about and who is putting pressure on the "advertisers" of the media in the media! Open personally informatively revealing war against them! If you beat according to their authority, it means to beat by their wallet and by their personal income.
        Of course, Russia should not pay for the IOC sports and political war against itself - the Russian Federation! Russia must act with the IOC, as with PACE! War is war! Aggression of the West against the Russian Federation in sport must be stopped!
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 8 November 2017 00: 55
          +3
          Quote: Tatiana
          No need to pay corrupt IOC officials! Unfortunately, we have to sacrifice Russian athletes now to either win now or stop this disgrace for the future.

          Why sacrifice? Conduct Games really like Goodwill Games! And there are participating countries!
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 7 November 2017 19: 23
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        It's time to repeat the story of the refusal to pay. We are not, there is no money.

        and they will repeat the story with mclaren.
        1. Cat Marquis
          Cat Marquis 8 November 2017 07: 09
          10
          It has long been necessary to tie up with these “olympiads”, “championships” and all the bullshit under the name “big sport” - turned into a hotbed of corrupt officials, a lever of political pressure, a place to apply and practice forbidden methods and technologies that mutilate the body and soul of athletes and, in general, the real adder. Sport should be "amateur" and nothing else.
          1. Yeah
            Yeah 8 November 2017 07: 53
            +2
            .
            Quote: Marquis Cat
            It has long been necessary to tie up with these “olympiads”, “championships” and all the bullshit under the name “big sport” - turned into a hotbed of corrupt officials, a lever of political pressure, a place to apply and practice forbidden methods and technologies that mutilate the body and soul of athletes and, in general, the real adder. Sport should be "amateur" and nothing else.
            well, you’ll tie it up at your place, otherwise the “invalids” are playing with you ..
            1. Cat Marquis
              Cat Marquis 8 November 2017 07: 58
              +4
              It is strange that people still do not understand the simple thing “flag” - this does not mean at all that a person is in the country of the “flag” - he just uses the server in this country for communication. And he can be found anywhere in Russia too.
              1. Mikhail m
                Mikhail m 10 November 2017 19: 21
                +2
                One “Russian” tennis player immediately remembered.
        2. Vend
          Vend 8 November 2017 10: 17
          +2
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Quote: Wend
          It's time to repeat the story of the refusal to pay. We are not, there is no money.

          and they will repeat the story with mclaren.

          Let's see if they have enough ideological power to do this, but with finance there was already a case in point.
  2. seacap
    seacap 7 November 2017 16: 08
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    One thing is not clear why these issues with the IOC, WADA, as well as violations of diplomatic property and deep workers are not considered at the UN, why there is still no strict directive on these issues? Why the IOC does not incur enormous legal costs and does not spend all its time on court hearings, and Maclaren is still with his laboratory assistants not on the porch with outstretched hands? It did not start yesterday, but at least from Canada. But Mutko continues to eat sweetly and sleep softly, and even receive awards for the successful collapse and the destruction of sports in our country, I’m already beginning to doubt something whether our government (with the exception of a few people) and what country they work for. I generally am silent about the Duma, 600 parasites each with their own pack, depicting ebullient activity and mouse I’m going to fuss. The problem in the country is no more than a month to solve the issues of roundabout and the fight against smoking, the most urgent, but nothing that the country is robbed at an accelerated pace, that presidential decrees are sabotaged, the taiga is being cut down, the range of employers and the sale of the defense complex, etc., no, the most dangerous thing for the country is smoking at the entrance. Yes, and our oligarchs, most likely not ours, could, instead of buying another villa or yacht, take part in the IOC and WADA, because it’s rotten organizations.
    1. Krabik
      Krabik 7 November 2017 22: 57
      +4
      Because the UN is in the USA.

      IOC is located in Switzerland.

      And the European courts will judge their own in the same way as Serdyukov and Vasiliev were judged in our country.

      Therefore, I propose the Olympics to make our own or with neutral countries allies without our partners overseas.

      IMHO there is no point in playing their game according to their rules!
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 03: 29
        +5
        Quote: Krabik
        And the European courts will judge their own in the same way as Serdyukov and Vasiliev were judged in our country.

        here you’ll whip the unnecessary everywhere !!! laughing laughing laughing if they will judge their own, like our Serdyukov and Vasiliev, then they will have to admit their guilt !!! wink wink and now voice what will mean if the Euros recognize, for example, the blame of the maclachs with his brigade ??? yes yes laughing laughing
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 8 November 2017 04: 24
          +2
          No one pleaded guilty to Serdyukov, he was a witness, and then not for long.

          And so it will be in enlightened Europe.

          If they judge, they will find a secretary or a cleaner, pay her money and judge her in full, and then they will be sentenced to 100 years probation, and in a week they will be cleared for lack of evidence%)

          I think their showmen there are no worse than ours ...
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 8 November 2017 14: 16
            +4
            Quote: Krabik
            No one pleaded guilty to Serdyukov, he was a witness, and then not for long.

            you dragged Serdyukov, I answered you on it .... and you should have a better understanding of the issue .. they opened a case of negligence on him and closed it under an amnesty !!!
            Quote: Krabik
            And so it will be in enlightened Europe.
            If they judge, they will find a secretary or a cleaner,

            I repeat ... if they in Europe plead guilty to someone for fabricating in WADA and MokE, then they plead guilty to fraud against Russia !!!
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 8 November 2017 17: 13
        0
        Quote: Krabik
        And the European courts will judge their own in the same way as Serdyukov and Vasiliev were judged in our country.

        actually it was a brilliant operation of the FSB to misinform the West about theft in our army
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 8 November 2017 21: 35
          0
          The theory of the brilliant operation of the FSB is ambiguous and requires proof.

          But it reminds me of other operations, such as the "drunk boy" who was crushed by a car on a playground and other less publicized cases that the president did not reach, therefore, as if unknown to anyone.

          They, too, with a certain dexterity of mind, can be called brilliant because ATS, which covered the child’s little battered ...
  3. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 7 November 2017 16: 15
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    I am not interested in your "sport", your Olympiads and sports and athletics are indifferent. I do not feel any patriotism from the fact that the next woman-horse raises the bar weighing half a kilo more than it was before. I don’t give a damn about these millionaire footballers walking around the field and their stadiums built for money laundering. All this is one big scam, and it is completely incomprehensible for what purpose the state should spend time, resources, health of its citizens for all this bacchanal? Does it need anyone other than sports officials?
    1. Yeah
      Yeah 7 November 2017 18: 59
      +9
      Vasya I need, my sons need, that would not hang out anywhere, did not smoke and did not drink poison, etc. !!! Believe me, REALLY the money went into children's sports, including, and if YOU do not want to get a “VEGETABLE”, I think you will not put SUCH silly slogans to drink and drink any poison!
      1. Vasya Vassin
        Vasya Vassin 7 November 2017 19: 33
        +3
        I do not see any connection between alcoholism, drug addiction and sports. You have not seen how these "athletes" of a regional scale celebrate "victories" at local "Olympiads", what drunken things it all grows into!
        1. Yeah
          Yeah 7 November 2017 21: 02
          +3
          Yes, because they do not have TIME for such NON-FUNCTIONS, the children themselves run to training, the natural desire to play sports overcomes all these nonsense, which concerns the "athletes" of the scale and so on - excuse this CULTURE of being, not sport. We have 40-50 year old men chasing the puck, but they don’t take prizes and the kids are joking and you don’t? - they answered simply, “WE ASSES from the SOFA have been torn off and this is already +, and as regards alcohol, it happens that they drink beer after training, yes they cook kebabs, sometimes pilaf is REST of body and soul, so don’t dump everything in one heap. I’ll add even more, DO YOU SEE modern children? They don’t get out of the phone, they don’t have normal communication, and they’re dead, so sports to some extent, it ALL gives and do not confuse physical education with great sport, although physical education feeds and feeds a big SPORT!
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 8 November 2017 06: 04
          +2
          Quote: Vasya Vassin
          You have not seen how these "athletes" of a regional scale celebrate "victories" at local "Olympiads", what drunken things it all grows into!

          Physical Culture - like any Culture, there is a system of internal restrictions, and not drinking after competitions.
      2. the most important
        the most important 7 November 2017 21: 13
        +2
        Quote: yeah
        Vasya I need, my sons need, that would not hang out anywhere, did not smoke and did not drink poison, etc. !!! Believe me, REALLY the money went into children's sports, including, and if YOU do not want to get a “VEGETABLE”, I think you will not put SUCH silly slogans to drink and drink any poison!

        You are crucifying in vain ... Vasya and the children will have Vasya ... without a goal ... without a homeland ... without a flag ... without a conscience ... With one skill - to pour manure to the right and left.
        Quote: seacap
        One thing is not clear why these issues with the IOC, WADA, as well as violations of diplomatic property and deep workers are not considered at the UN, why there is still no strict directive on these issues? Why the IOC does not incur enormous legal costs and does not spend all its time on court hearings, and Maclaren is still with his laboratory assistants not on the porch with outstretched hands? It did not start yesterday, but at least from Canada. But Mutko continues to eat sweetly and sleep softly, and even receive awards for the successful collapse and the destruction of sports in our country, I’m already beginning to doubt something whether our government (with the exception of a few people) and what country they work for. I generally am silent about the Duma, 600 parasites each with their own pack, depicting ebullient activity and mouse I’m going to fuss. The problem in the country is no more than a month to solve the issues of roundabout and the fight against smoking, the most urgent, but nothing that the country is robbed at an accelerated pace, that presidential decrees are sabotaged, the taiga is being cut down, the range of employers and the sale of the defense complex, etc., no, the most dangerous thing for the country is smoking at the entrance. Yes, and our oligarchs, most likely not ours, could, instead of buying another villa or yacht, take part in the IOC and WADA, because it’s rotten organizations.

        But I fully support you !!!!
      3. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM 8 November 2017 17: 58
        +2
        My son is a master of sports in swimming. Our sports authorities did not allocate a dime for trips to competitions, etc., all at their own expense. When he became a KMS, only then did the sports school stop taking money for attending training sessions. Eraser guys went to the 2015 World Youth Championships. They were told that if you are in prizes, then we will compensate for the cost of the trip. Our guy took 1st place. A couple of months waiting for compensation. The year before last, one of the Siberian guys took 2nd place in the Russian championship. He entered the university in St. Petersburg. Do you think he needs someone there as an athlete? Now just a student ...
      4. Cossack 471
        Cossack 471 8 November 2017 22: 13
        +2
        From the so-called "big sport" the majority of the population is neither cold nor hot. A seat in the stadium or in front of the TV does not add health. To those who say what are your suggestions? I’ll say right away but none! Those who believe holy above. that they know us better. what we need and do not perceive advice from us. Here we have now introduced in the SDA the concept of "who is on the circle - the one on the main." Do you think this will help the movement? Not at all. Where is the circle. there will be a traffic jam. There is a solution. I saw him abroad. Put a traffic light. working in a circle. You drive into a circle into the green light and move out at any exit. If at the intersection to establish the traffic light in a circle then turn left is not a problem. since there are no oncoming ones and don’t have to let anyone pass in. Whoever I wrote for this .. didn’t even answer
        1. Yeah
          Yeah 9 November 2017 06: 13
          0
          You can immediately see the PETRIOT of the native country, “It's all crap, but I don’t know and I won’t get out.” With regards to “big sport”, it’s not only “sitting” - these are infrastructure objects (stadiums, tracks, etc.), this is Idea - an image life, maintaining health, in the end, YOUR desire to join this. Well, in order to prepare one master of international affairs, you need to familiarize yourself, improve your health (build muscles), and finally give knowledge to THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN !!! You have the nickname KAZAK- well, and how he will hold a saber-computer genius, and sit on a horse (because there are not enough village people) and this is AGAIN SPORTS -fighted, martial arts, not to mention the parents of the children (take away, bring, clean the box, paint the box) - this is also a HEALTHY LIFESTYLE - and there are VERY MUCH such ones, but the BEGINNING of ALL of this comes from a beautiful picture in a TV or STADIUM !! And finally, with regards to circular motion - UNCLE you are a STUPID person !! 1) None of the traffic lights will be able to adjust the ride, as self-regulation on the ring, 2) There will be no traffic jams on the ring (they will be at the entrance to the ring, and there will be a window — especially the right row — enter there) 3) what the thought took is not the idea of ​​FIX is just an ordering of the LAW! We have 3 circles in our city, you won’t believe the traffic is normal, 2 BASIC HIGHWAYs converge - of course a multi-level denouement would be better, but in case of space deficit this is an ACCEPTABLE solution, and NO ONE DOES BETT put traffic lights ON THE CIRCLE, but there are such cities- NOVOSIBIRSK - one another is not a hindrance
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 7 November 2017 19: 31
      +8
      Quote: Vasya Vassin
      I'm not interested in your "sport",

      I agree with you in many respects, albeit a sambo wrestler. I think that there are more important things than the venal Olympics, namely the cult of physical education and sports. In the Caucasus, the cult of struggle and any Caucasian traditionally fights well, regardless of whether his brother won the Olympics or not. The more attention will be paid to mass physical culture, the corresponding holidays and competitions are organized with a good prize pool, the more resources will be in the future
      1. max702
        max702 7 November 2017 21: 48
        +1
        Quote: aybolyt678
        The more attention will be paid to mass physical culture, the corresponding holidays and competitions are organized with a good prize pool, the more resources will be in the future

        there is one problem, the current bureaucrat will roll back very little for it will be noticeable and very .. But in sports, great achievements are all easier .. Well, I couldn’t get it ... And there are no questions ..
  4. Berber
    Berber 7 November 2017 16: 18
    13
    The Olympic Games are discredited. If Russia and its athletes will unanimously demonstrate integrity, then the status of these games will not be the same.
  5. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 7 November 2017 17: 21
    +8
    If one of the 100-200-300 athletes feared that the next cycle would be wasted for him, then let him speak for Barbados. The IOC has no complaints about them. 140 million Russian people will then have claims to them.
    Nikolai Nikolaevich Ozerov somehow about hockey "one smart thing" said, but now he would say about the so-called OI: "We don’t need such toys!"
    Hold 2018 World Cup and cut funding all federations under tonsils. What is more important for us - the interests of the country that they are trying to spit, defame and corner into the corner, or several medals that will always (just in case) be in doubt?
  6. Korsar4
    Korsar4 7 November 2017 17: 28
    +4
    The case may end with the collapse of the Olympic movement. However, to fulfill all the requirements is like paying a blackmailer. You’ll stay on the hook and you won’t get off it.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 7 November 2017 18: 49
      12
      Quote: Korsar4
      The case may end with the collapse of the Olympic movement.

      The Olympic movement has long died, now its corpse is decomposing.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 7 November 2017 19: 34
      +3
      Quote: Korsar4
      The case may end with the collapse of the Olympic movement.

      Exactly! business will end with the collapse of such an Olympic movement
  7. Selin Andrey
    Selin Andrey 7 November 2017 17: 38
    +7
    Honestly, I have a double attitude to what is now called sports. I mean that by sport I mean amateur sport, which is now systematically ignored. Everything else is no longer a sport. This is jumping. So here. Modern OI - this is, basically, an attraction of exteriors.
  8. GAF
    GAF 7 November 2017 18: 09
    +8
    "We have no complaints about the International Olympic Committee, there are very decent people, business people. But they depend on advertisers, on television channels, on sponsors and so on ..."
    That phrase says it all. If there are decent people, then why plant them on the loot received from dubious sources. Is the world so poor that it is not able to free the IOC from this vile dependence. Otherwise, as is observed, sport becomes a means of resolving unseemly matters in the dirty hands of men (in general, of a well-known variety) who own media and advertising. So it turns out like in a cheap restaurant - who pays the money, he orders the music. High ideals of the OI - do not make these citizens laugh.
  9. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 7 November 2017 18: 16
    +8
    It is a pity that Putin and the authorities can act only on Valdai! It would be great if words followed the deed. And then, as always, they’ll talk, the cabal will arrange and the happy will disperse.
  10. Severok
    Severok 7 November 2017 18: 27
    +6
    Vova on Valdai spoke a lot of smart things. But why did all the executive and legislative powers put part and parcel on these clever thoughts? Why hasn’t even a single big official confiscated everything that has been stolen from the people and why is the official who does not defend the interests of the people of Russia still sitting in his office, and not freezing the unspeakable in the tundra?
    1. your1970
      your1970 9 November 2017 13: 36
      +2
      a list of the governors / deputies of ministers / ministers planted or under investigation look yourself in the internet or the main thing is to shout about "Stolen !!" and "Bad power !!" ???!
  11. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 7 November 2017 20: 37
    +6
    We must have a long time to score on this IOC! And to persecute the Wadovites in Russia as terrorists! Appeared without an invitation - get a term of 10 years! Look at the mattress Phelps shouted the most about taking our dope, and he dies of skin cancer! What did you eat for records? And I take meldonium regularly to improve brain cell function! Maclaren, can you hear me? wassat tongue drinks
    1. Vasya Vassin
      Vasya Vassin 7 November 2017 21: 11
      +5
      I take with three stars a little bit and with coffee.
  12. LAWNER
    LAWNER 7 November 2017 20: 56
    +6
    What are you panicking ahead of time ???? Maybe by the beginning of the Winter Olympics in 2018, South Korea will no longer be ..... So you need to prepare right away for the Summer Olympics in Brazil!
  13. Dedall
    Dedall 8 November 2017 01: 11
    +8
    The article is absolutely correct, but I would like to know something constructive. Like how much firewood to collect to burn Medvedev. Or, for example, how many people are needed in the firing squad for Putin. But this is all a joke, but tell me why these articles should be printed at all. People are already evil to impossibility, and you add even more fire.
    And if in essence this opus, then if we had a normal state, and not the squalor that it is now, then sport would be supported in much the same way as it was during the Soviet Union. Putin must have forgotten that the uniform was then given to judokas for free. And in stores, it cost 8 rubles 50 kopecks, because it was subsidized. And dumbbells then cost mere pennies. For example, I had two kilograms of 3 kopecks each. Or pound weights for 2 rubles 40 kopecks. This is now perceived as a fairy tale. We also went to competitions at the expense of the department of physical education at the executive committee of our city, and even received food stamps. And for the first time to jump with a parachute, I only paid contributions to DOSSAF and here it is, please, heaven.
    1. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 8 November 2017 06: 01
      +5
      Quote: Dedall
      And if in essence this opus, then if we had a normal state, and not the squalor that it is now, then sport would be supported in much the same way as it was during the Soviet Union.

      If we had a normal state, the so-called professional sport would exist at the expense of sponsors, and not for the budget. And budget money would be allocated for the development of mass physical education and sports for amateurs, to improve society! Here we have dumbbells and parachute jumps! Millionaires “footballers and hockey players” and other “ists” who don’t show a result and receive from the state simply crazy money; we don’t need to talk about the content of the isters by the sponsors. The result is-get and sign, no-free. But to whom is it necessary? bulk or something? and these real ones don’t really want to change what ...
  14. Music
    Music 8 November 2017 01: 43
    +2
    OI-80 and OI-84 come to mind. History goes in circles ..
  15. Myxomop
    Myxomop 8 November 2017 04: 07
    +3
    The IOC immediately said that this is a lie to the New York Times, which would inspire such an article and provoke just such your reaction.
    It’s another matter that they knew what to lie about and our sports bureaucracy really completely lost trust among people. (At least for the sake of decency in the court of vada stated)
  16. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 8 November 2017 08: 49
    +2
    Here we need integrity: "in the morning - money, chairs for lunch ...".
    The principle of our diplomacy (including sports) should be. Otherwise, officials spending money taken from pensioners and people with disabilities just for the sake of their personal participation in a comfortable life inside the IOC are criminals!
  17. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 8 November 2017 09: 27
    +5
    No matter how athletes are offended, but to go out under a neutral flag for me compare betrayal. After all, the soldier fought for his homeland, not looking, at times, at the best equipment of the enemy. I did not go over to his side.
  18. vladikod
    vladikod 8 November 2017 10: 28
    +4
    I fully understand and support the author ... Or everything ... or nothing and no contributions to this same "catastrophe" ..
  19. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 8 November 2017 10: 52
    +1
    The author is right! Russia should not participate in politicized OI.
  20. zibo1668
    zibo1668 8 November 2017 17: 03
    +1
    - The next Winter Olympics will be held in the South Korean city of Pyeongchang. - Be healthy! So where, you say, will be the next Olympics?
  21. Sige
    Sige 8 November 2017 19: 03
    +3
    Russia as an old officer widow: cries and pays for being whipped.
  22. Altona
    Altona 8 November 2017 20: 31
    0
    Quote: Kostadinov
    This began during the USSR. Today, Russians are not allowed at the Olympics, tomorrow the Chinese will follow. It’s time to organize a real IOC and wants to compete on the sports field - please. And everyone who will be engaged in a political show is empty will remain in today's IOC

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    You are right, in Russia, the dirty technology of spitting and discrimination so far is running in. Next in line will be Chinese sportsmen, then some more. This is a direct violation of the Olympic Charter and the collapse of Olympic sports. If the Anglo-Saxons want to act alone, then let them directly declare this.
  23. sgapich
    sgapich 9 November 2017 01: 06
    +1
    Hmm .... and I saw a musk ox in wildlife .... In Buryatia ... And even Przhevalsky’s horse, but it’s true in Mongolia ... In the desert, there was a thing - I walked, now I would not go ... There was a real chance to die there ... Although the young one was - bad ...
  24. Brigadier
    Brigadier 9 November 2017 09: 43
    +2
    Oh, and you are naive ... Everyone thinks that our proudly will rise and leave if there is no our anthem and flag?
    Do not make people laugh! Again, our bureaucrats will find some loophole to explain to the country why it is necessary to appear under someone else’s flag and without a hymn, again helpfully stand in front of the “world community” and spread the bread wider!
    Swam, we know ...
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 9 November 2017 10: 26
      +7
      Quote: Brigadier
      Do you all think that ours will proudly stand up and leave if there is no our anthem and flag?

      It’s not the athletes who decide, but the politicians ...
      Quote: Brigadier
      Again, our bureaucrats will find some loophole to explain to the country why it is necessary to appear under the flag of others and without a hymn.

      IMHO is unlikely. Again, because it will be solved at the very top.
      Quote: Brigadier
      ... helpfully stand up for cancer ... and spread wider buns

      Ahem .. well, and you have fantasies repeat
      Quote: Brigadier
      Swam, we know ...

      A flower is floating in the hole ... continue yes
  25. intuzazist
    intuzazist 9 November 2017 13: 41
    0
    Quote: Marquis Cat
    It is strange that people still do not understand the simple thing “flag” - this does not mean at all that a person is in the country of the “flag” - he just uses the server in this country for communication. And he can be found anywhere in Russia too.

    Well yes, of course, maybe !!! Spoons were found! And the sediment remained ..........................................
    ......
  26. Brigadier
    Brigadier 10 November 2017 05: 00
    0
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack Yesterday, 10:26 ↑

    Why are you, my friend, so much excited?
    It seems that you yourself are one of those who are going to get cancer and push your breads wider in the near future? lol
    Abydna, huh? tongue
  27. y-yz
    y-yz 10 November 2017 12: 07
    +2
    Professional athletes perform at the Olympics, why should they spend budget money on them? When professional miners or metallurgists work hard in production, do they really get paid at the expense of the budget of lawyers or travel abroad for professional parties? Athletes have chosen such a profession with all the risks. And money instead of the Olympic show is better spent on sports school. Child activities in any sports section are more expensive than maintaining a prestigious car
  28. koshmarik
    koshmarik 10 November 2017 12: 09
    +1
    Quote: Vasya Vassin
    I am not interested in your "sport", your Olympiads and sports and athletics are indifferent.

    I would like to know what are you interested in? Or are you like a vegetable without interests? Enlighten us in a word.
  29. koshmarik
    koshmarik 10 November 2017 12: 23
    0
    Somewhere an idea passed, after holding the politicized, incorrect Olympics in Korea, which we most likely would not be allowed to, to hold competitions of the Olympic rank in Russia with fixing achievements, medals, fees, wide coverage in Russian and world media. Athletes will not suffer in any way, training will not be in vain, and competition with athletes from other countries will be simply in absentia. Naturally, the IOC will receive a donut hole from us. What is not an option?
  30. DPN
    DPN 10 November 2017 18: 30
    +1
    If there is no HYMNA of a country, then there is no RUSSIA in the nature of this country, so it is necessary to work for the IOC to move to another country, not to make contributions to the IOC, let them play themselves. Athletes, of course, feel sorry for their efforts and my tax deductions for their training.
    And to speak for some kind of miracle - Yudo without a hymn please at your own expense!
  31. seacap
    seacap 11 November 2017 11: 39
    0
    Quote: Krabik
    And the European courts will judge their own in the same way as Serdyukov and Vasiliev were judged in our country.

    It doesn’t matter, even without the necessary and proper effect, but the fact itself is important, you can simply disorganize all the work, make nervousness and draw public attention to this lawlessness by constantly trolling (spamming) this rotten office. You take an example from our neighbors of bone-fracturing, as they pull us constantly by courts in all organizations without exception.
  32. seacap
    seacap 11 November 2017 11: 45
    0
    Quote: DPN
    If there is no anthem of the country, then there is no in the nature of this country

    Our bureaucrats do not care about the country, the people and the rest, the main warm chair, eat sweetly and sleep softly, and for this it is only necessary to lick the boss’s ass and try to make a smart face, and if something else blurted out in the subject, then generally a scientific degree You’ll get it. And the oligarchs and nouveau riche are no longer ours, the main thing there is not to let their masters down.