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Near Kiev experienced "Bars-8MMK". What kind of "beast"?

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The Ukroboronprom press service today published material in which it reports on the Bars-8MMK “super-speed” mortar complex. Reports that the complex was tested at one of the landfills of the Kiev region. Not only representatives of the management of Ukroboronprom, but also the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Oleksandr Turchinov, as well as the head of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Viktor Muzhenko observed the test progress.


On the site "Ukroboronprom"where “Bars” in the release text was called “Bras”, it is reported that the car is equipped with an 120-mm mortar and integrated into a digital information exchange system.

From the release:
The time required for the calculation of the new machine to bring it into a combat state is up to 60 seconds. The coordinates of the target were instantly processed by the fire control system. "Bars-8MMK" first opened fire and hit all the targets. After that, he was the first to leave the position even before other mortars were fired.


The material stated that Bars-8MMK is integrated into the digital information exchange system on the battlefield, when the calculation of the mobile mortar complex receives the exact coordinates of the enemy in real time. Such information can simultaneously come from drones, counter-battery radar, as well as other surveillance systems. This system greatly improves the accuracy and efficiency of the fire.

Near Kiev experienced "Bars-8MMK". What kind of "beast"?


The creators of Barça-8MMK declare that the car, leaving the firing line for the minimum time, opens fire, managing to leave the position before the enemy calculates their coordinates.

Press service of the company:
It should be noted that the Bars-8MMK system can be integrated with any information and control system of the highest level of command and control of troops, including С4, GIS, COM and others. These systems are used in the leading armies of NATO countries and have already proved their high efficiency.
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  1. poquello
    poquello 6 November 2017 18: 08 New
    +6
    from lousy about the bathhouse, quickly jump out to shoot and run away, it’s clear that the qualities are valuable but the tasks
    1. RASKAT
      RASKAT 6 November 2017 18: 13 New
      +8
      Something a bit too much smoke and some kind of pipe on the roof. Does it work on wood?
      1. poquello
        poquello 6 November 2017 18: 16 New
        +8
        Quote: RASKAT
        Something a bit too much smoke and some kind of pipe on the roof. Does it work on wood?

        a trace from a mine, similar muck traveled around Donetsk (it seems) terrorized people, I liked dill
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 6 November 2017 18: 20 New
          25
          Is this equipment equipped with a radio for playing the anthem of Ukraine? smile
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 November 2017 18: 32 New
            +4
            “The time required to calculate a new machine to bring it into combat condition is up to 60 seconds.


            And they manage to do it all in 60 seconds.
            1. poquello
              poquello 6 November 2017 19: 50 New
              +4
              Quote: cniza
              “The time required to calculate a new machine to bring it into combat condition is up to 60 seconds.


              And they manage to do it all in 60 seconds.

              and what is there to keep up? (IMHO) to the paws of the piece of iron from the rig screwed, turned - stands, wrapped - let's go
              1. cniza
                cniza 6 November 2017 20: 10 New
                10
                A hymn to sing. lol otherwise does not work.
              2. Lycan
                Lycan 6 November 2017 23: 05 New
                +1
                Right! And the anthem?
                Swift recitative for 8 times accelerated orchestral melody.
                And then - dancing around Barca.
          2. NIKNN
            NIKNN 6 November 2017 18: 38 New
            12
            She crap this is not accidentally equipped with a "Hammer" ukrovsky ..., It seems he didn’t badly recommend himself to them laughing , losses from him were recorded ...
            1. Non liberoid Russian
              Non liberoid Russian 6 November 2017 18: 58 New
              +2
              unlikely, rather 2B11 from Soviet stocks or something even more ancient ...
              1. NIKNN
                NIKNN 6 November 2017 19: 00 New
                10
                Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
                unlikely, rather 2B11 from Soviet stocks or something even more ancient ...

                It’s a pity, for me it would be better to have equipped it with a “Hammer” ... as it’s already a proven brand ... laughing
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 6 November 2017 19: 18 New
                  +3
                  Quote: NIKNN
                  already a proven brand

                  Do not dismiss even the "Kalash" managed to "modernize."
              2. Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich
                Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich 7 November 2017 01: 07 New
                +4
                Absolutely all the Soviet stocks of Sanya, the Bald Pastor - Kuryache Guzno, has long been sold off cheaply to niggaz in Africa and to barbecue men in ISIS.
                Together with the Urals and Shishigami themselves :-)))
                That’s why they began to sculpt the Wunderwafel of the Walzman’s “Hammer” system from high-pressure gas pipes instead of ... barrels, because there wasn’t any reserves of any Soviet 120-mm mortars inside Mazepia
                GENERALLY :-)))
                So here they definitely stuck the "Hammer" !!!
                And Chocolate Poets will not give up his gesheft on chubby shabegoys to anyone just like that :-)))
            2. LSA57
              LSA57 6 November 2017 19: 30 New
              +4
              Quote: NIKNN
              This crap is not accidentally equipped with the "Hammer" ukrovsky

              and going to the forge of ilich belonging to the supreme supreme all ukraine laughing
              1. NIKNN
                NIKNN 6 November 2017 19: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: LSA57
                and going to the forge of ilich belonging to the supreme supreme all ukraine

                Cool I feel the device ..., now based on everything analyzed, there is a hope that they will not be able to get down from the place of shooting, even without an answer ... laughing
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 6 November 2017 20: 54 New
                  +4
                  Quote: NIKNN
                  there is a hope that they will not be able to get down from the place of shooting, even without an answer ...

                  they can. According to rumors, a company of soldiers is attached to them. push him. therefore, they grab everyone in a row and dragged into the draft board laughing
              2. Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich
                Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich 7 November 2017 01: 12 New
                +1
                Wunderwafle "Hammer" is being molded at the Kiev factory "MANyak", the main shareholder of which is of course the soaked Bendery-Vinnytsia Chocolate Poets :-)))
          3. poquello
            poquello 6 November 2017 19: 45 New
            +3
            Quote: Thrall
            Is this equipment equipped with a radio for playing the anthem of Ukraine? smile

            what is the right mortar, just like their tanks before
          4. Fedalex
            Fedalex 6 November 2017 20: 16 New
            +2
            Reviewed several times, thanks drinks
          5. LeonidL
            LeonidL 7 November 2017 01: 45 New
            0
            Every time I look with pleasure! Is that kind of glory to the dead?
        2. xetai9977
          xetai9977 6 November 2017 20: 10 New
          +8
          More than 40 comments and not a single technical discussion so far .. Taunts and banter. Can change the name of the site?
          1. poquello
            poquello 6 November 2017 22: 08 New
            +6
            Quote: xetai9977
            More than 40 comments and not a single technical discussion so far .. Taunts and banter. Can change the name of the site?

            if you technically discuss all the new products of the Ukrainian defense industry, then you will definitely need to change the name, screw the pipe to the drive and sho?
          2. venik
            venik 7 November 2017 09: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: xetai9977
            More than 40 comments and not a single technical discussion so far .. Taunts and banter. Can change the name of the site?

            =========
            WHAT, actually DISCUSS ??? What such "technical specifications are given ??? Except of course" ur-ur-ur! the best mortar in the world "... So ... NO SAY" to rename "...... Well, but not -" like it - don't eat "(from a joke about Chingachguk) ...
      2. svp67
        svp67 6 November 2017 18: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: RASKAT
        Something a bit too much smoke

        Smoke from a shot ...
        Quote: RASKAT
        and some kind of pipe on the roof

        So I understand the wind sensor, a very necessary thing for processing the initial data for shooting and subsequent adjustment.
      3. LSA57
        LSA57 6 November 2017 18: 35 New
        +8
        Quote: RASKAT
        some kind of pipe on the roof

        jeepies antenna. smokes from stress laughing
      4. 210ox
        210ox 6 November 2017 18: 55 New
        +3
        Smoke is good..And "Hammer" is even better. That would be all at once ..
        Quote: RASKAT
        Something a bit too much smoke and some kind of pipe on the roof. Does it work on wood?
      5. cotevich
        cotevich 7 November 2017 19: 59 New
        0
        Of course, on wood, then there is no coal
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 6 November 2017 18: 24 New
      14
      I’d better you post a video about yesterday’s shelling
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Lycan
        Lycan 6 November 2017 23: 11 New
        +1
        How quickly he turned gray. I remember in 2014 - the hair of a middle-aged man. And here - gray hair - hoarfrost
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 6 November 2017 23: 38 New
          +5
          And you do not look at the corpses of children torn to pieces by shells of the ukrovermacht not on the monitor, but "live", you still do not turn gray. There it is beyond measure, any normal person either gets drunk or turns gray.
          1. Lycan
            Lycan 7 November 2017 09: 16 New
            0
            I agree, a heavy sight.
    3. 210ox
      210ox 6 November 2017 18: 58 New
      +5
      Better “Nona” haven’t come up with anything yet ..
      Quote: poquello
      from lousy about the bathhouse, quickly jump out to shoot and run away, it’s clear that the qualities are valuable but the tasks
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 6 November 2017 19: 11 New
        +3
        As I understand it - their badger is imprisoned under the IMS of the NATO standard (C4, GIS, COM and others)? And in Ukraine, what? Not your own? And how are they going to fight this badger if this cat is just a mortar on a tractor without a BIUS?
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 6 November 2017 19: 32 New
          10
          Quote: Dembel 77
          if without cat this cat is just a mortar on a tractor?

          there is another option. lightweight
          1. poquello
            poquello 6 November 2017 23: 37 New
            +6
            Quote: Dembel 77
            if without cat this cat is just a mortar on a tractor?

            even
      2. Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich
        Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich 7 November 2017 01: 28 New
        0

        Invented!
        Nona + Clove = Hosta :-)))
        Much more spacious inside the BO, much more BK, the barrel of the same gun is longer, and the running Motolyga will still survive all of us!
        Cheap and cheerful :-)))
    4. Herculesic
      Herculesic 6 November 2017 19: 42 New
      +6
      I'm more interested in barrel burst speed lol because, for example, with the "hammer", mortars vna ukroine should be prone to massive self-destruction! !! wassat
    5. iouris
      iouris 6 November 2017 23: 11 New
      0
      This Ukrainian development poses new challenges for the domestic defense industry. What deputy prime minister is responsible for her decision within a month?
      1. poquello
        poquello 6 November 2017 23: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: iouris
        This Ukrainian development poses new challenges for the domestic defense industry. What deputy prime minister is responsible for her decision within a month?

        Rogozin already answered
        1. iouris
          iouris 6 November 2017 23: 33 New
          0
          It is known that the May decrees are not implemented. It turns out that there is an agreement that some respond exactly on time that they have completed, while others pretend that they believed and do not check. I think serious people don’t sit on Twitter.
          1. poquello
            poquello 6 November 2017 23: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: iouris
            It is known that the May decrees are not implemented. It turns out that there is an agreement that some respond exactly on time that they have completed, while others pretend that they believed and do not check. I think serious people don’t sit on Twitter.

    6. igorka357
      igorka357 7 November 2017 07: 37 New
      0
      Of course, they’re kakly .. I don’t like them either, but don’t distort them! Quality .. "went to the position, completed the task and left without falling into the fire zone" .. these are just brilliant qualities !!!
      1. poquello
        poquello 7 November 2017 18: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: igorka357
        Of course, they are kakly .. I also do not like them, but do not distort!

        Quote: poquello
        from lousy about the bathhouse, quickly jump out to shoot and run away, it’s clear that the qualities are valuable but the tasks

        and de?
  2. san4es
    san4es 6 November 2017 18: 19 New
    +5
    Bars-8MMK integrated

    1. Monos
      Monos 6 November 2017 18: 32 New
      11
      An interesting piece ... for working with asphalt. If finalized by outriggers, then probably in the field ... But from the hollows, gullies, gully - it’s hardly ...
      With a tip, the question is also ... The corners (which are horizontal, that of vertical) of the pickup are small.
      1. san4es
        san4es 6 November 2017 18: 38 New
        +5
        Quote: Monos
        An interesting piece ... for working with asphalt.

        ... That's for sure ... or from the bruschatka bully (banged straight at the exhibition belay for 1.37 min)
      2. Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich
        Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich 7 November 2017 01: 45 New
        +3
        You yourself almost answered your own question ...
        This is clearly NOT for war!
        This is a naughty thing on a peace !!!
        100% terrorism like ISIS or the deceased already (thank God) of Free Ichkeria.
        And for this, no accuracy and nah ... NOT needed.
        Plus or minus one and a half bast shoes left and right ...
        Just to shed more blood: - (((
        Indeed, it is only in this one that the whole meaning of the so-called к Ukrainian ’is concluded from the very moment it was invented in the middle of the 19th century in Austria-Hungary ...
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 6 November 2017 18: 33 New
      11
      san4es hi Respect for the video. Vague doubts about reliability are tormented. Yes and the dirt will stick to the bottom of the pallet repeat
      Our answer to Chamberlain soldier

      Well, the good old NONA hi
    3. romandostalo
      romandostalo 6 November 2017 22: 09 New
      0
      Judging by the beginning of the video, they decided to use Dodge RAM as a base. So the car will be just as useful as the M998 Humvee, which the Americans gave them. Spare parts, good fuel, etc.
      1. family
        family tree 6 November 2017 22: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: romandostalo
        Judging by the beginning of the video, they decided to use Dodge RAM as a base. So the car will be just as useful as the M998 Humvee, which the Americans gave them. Spare parts, good fuel, etc.
        machine, Ukrainian Bars, barrel 2b11, guidance system and the mechanism itself with a Spanish base plate
        Everis Aeroespacial y Defensa SLU (EAD).
    4. zzdimk
      zzdimk 7 November 2017 01: 34 New
      +1
      Some masturbation
  3. Going
    Going 6 November 2017 18: 21 New
    10
    The press service of Ukroboronprom today published a material in which it reports on the "super-fast" mortar complex "Bars-8MMK".


    It shoots in its own way. laughing
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 November 2017 18: 21 New
    +6
    Well, a self-propelled mortar. Well, a digital fire control system. What is it then? From testing to mass production - the distance is HUGE, and to overcome it, you need three things: money, money, and again money ... And so that at least half are not “spread out” wassat
    And this, it seems, is the most impossible. VNA.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 6 November 2017 21: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      From testing to mass production - the distance is HUGE,

      they have no distance ... everything ends at the test stage !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol
  5. Simon
    Simon 6 November 2017 18: 22 New
    +1
    Then he was the first to leave the position even before the other mortars finished firing. --- The main thing he was taught to run away quickly, but it will not help him, our weapons will find him everywhere - Syria showed it! soldier
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 6 November 2017 18: 28 New
      +1
      For the fleeing there are drones.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 6 November 2017 18: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: Simon
      our weapons will find him everywhere -

      will need to soak in the toilet laughing
    3. alex vau_2
      alex vau_2 6 November 2017 19: 03 New
      +3
      our weapons will find it everywhere - Syria has shown it!

      and what did Syria show you? Already on the street is not 2014, but 2017 .....
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 6 November 2017 19: 29 New
        +9
        . What do you know about the state of the current Ukrainian army? About its equipment? Already on the street is not 2014, but 2017 .....


        zdobuli still overcome and become the strongest army on the continent? 10 non-combat losses in the statistics simply did not fit. if 000 in 10 years is a normal pace.

        Tell us about the formidable Ukrainian army. There is a spirit on the new boiler?
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 6 November 2017 19: 37 New
        +7
        Quote: alex vau_2
        What do you know about the state of the current Ukrainian army? About its equipment? Already on the street is not 2014, but 2017 .....

        “Nothing has changed in the Ukrainian army since the Soviet Union, except for a trident on caps. This is the opinion of the famous journalist Ruslan Kotsaba on the air of one of the local television channels.

        He noted that the problems that were observed in the Soviet Army still have not left the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In addition, they were added frank sloppiness, disregard for their work and "drunkenness in black."

        Kotsaba noted that the state fed the army, which had never participated in a real war, but, in fact, simply changed its caps.

        “They were red stars on their caps, and then they were suddenly told that you will now have a trident, that's all, the army has changed,” said the Ukrainian journalist.

        He believes that no real changes in the APU are observed. Kotsaba noted that in the ranks of the Ukrainian army there are still "villains ensigns," whom more and more are becoming every day .... "
        Source: https://newinform.com/89573-pyanstvo-po-chernomu-
        na-ukraine-razvenchali-mif-o-novoi-nepobedimoi-ar
        thou
        It's enough?
  6. Simon
    Simon 6 November 2017 18: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: RASKAT
    Something a bit too much smoke and some kind of pipe on the roof. Does it work on wood?

    Most likely, yes, there is no coal in the Donbas, no gas, the same oil is not enough. Soon the forest will be sold for debts and in general everything will stand! laughing
  7. polpot
    polpot 6 November 2017 18: 27 New
    +1
    To think in 2017 to what the Germans thought of in 1942 or even earlier intelligence as they say in person
  8. BMP-2
    BMP-2 6 November 2017 18: 29 New
    +5
    Interestingly, what a terrifying power the new mortar complex has, if it is statistically proven that the effectiveness of the weapons that Mouzhenko is monitoring is increasing by 2 times, and those by Turchinov by 3 orders of magnitude ?! request
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 6 November 2017 18: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: BMP-2
      Interestingly, what a terrifying power the new mortar complex has, if it is statistically proven that the effectiveness of the weapons that Mouzhenko is monitoring is increasing by 2 times, and those by Turchinov by 3 orders of magnitude ?!

      and it depends on where and from what distance to look laughing
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 6 November 2017 18: 55 New
        +4
        It has long been noted that for a sharp improvement in the performance characteristics of Ukrainian weapons, it is quite enough to look at it with any of the senior dodgers. Well, if Poroshenko’s gaze touches the weapon with a black eye, it automatically turns into the best in the world! yes

        Ps: I wonder why Viyu is still not presented to the title "Hero of Ukraine"? request Well, this, in fact, is the main historical character who laid the foundations of Ukrainian power! In addition, he donated the gift to so many heirs! laughing In general, who knows - lift my eyelids! Open your eyes, so to speak ... fellow
  9. izya top
    izya top 6 November 2017 18: 32 New
    +2
    on whom did they test? on the zoryan, on the scruff or on the Amer’s diplomat? to three arrived, so check the information wassat
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 6 November 2017 18: 40 New
      +4
      Quote: iza top
      all three flew, so check the information

      exponential shooting costs laughing
    2. evil partisan
      evil partisan 6 November 2017 18: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: iza top
      on whom did they test? on the zoryan, on the scruff or on the Amer’s diplomat? all three came, so check the information

      stop Dig there, Colleague! I specify:
      WWII shell exploded at a sugar factory near Kiev, there is a dead man
      ON 06/11/2017 NEWS
      On the territory of a sugar factory in Uzin, Kiev region, an explosion occurred on a device that was dug during the harvesting of sugar beets. This was reported by the press service of the police of the Kiev region on their Facebook page.

      It was established that the explosion occurred when a plant employee damaged an explosive device with a shovel. A 49-year-old man with serious injuries was taken to the hospital, but his life could not be saved.

      The explosive device was an artillery shell of the Second World War.
      1. izya top
        izya top 6 November 2017 19: 18 New
        18
        Quote: wicked partisan
        Dig there, Colleague!

        but there is still where to dig?
  10. Sergey53
    Sergey53 6 November 2017 18: 42 New
    0
    Foreign abbreviation is flaunted. THE MACHINE IS VISIBLY INTENDED FOR DIVERSION WORK.
  11. zzdimk
    zzdimk 6 November 2017 18: 43 New
    0
    Wait gentlemen! 60 seconds what is required? To shed? Achievement. Arrived - scared - hid. So this is a psychological attack!
  12. John Doe
    John Doe 6 November 2017 18: 45 New
    0
    For a country that has only begun to build an army in the last 2-3 years, this is very "overwhelming."
  13. Makarov
    Makarov 6 November 2017 19: 02 New
    0
    This, as I understand it, was originally a Polish project, but with improvements ... in general, 60 seconds is cool ...
  14. tracer
    tracer 6 November 2017 19: 18 New
    0
    The mortar stands on the ground. What is right, and the base is as always Ford f350. Pipe on top of the transmitter mast or optical mast.
  15. sabakina
    sabakina 6 November 2017 20: 01 New
    +2
    I still do not understand what is "super speed" ?. In the "fishing rod"? And then:
    Such information can simultaneously come from drones, counter-battery radar, as well as other surveillance systems.

    Do they think that the enemy will sit and wait for it to "arrive"?
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 6 November 2017 23: 59 New
      +1
      And then, it’s them’s "what for us?" laughing
  16. Professor
    Professor 6 November 2017 20: 14 New
    +2
    It is these systems that are used in the leading armies of NATO countries and have already proven their high efficiency.

    Where is NATO, and where are you, dear? sad
  17. garri-lin
    garri-lin 6 November 2017 20: 38 New
    +1
    The work "not going on the ground" is not implemented! Controversial papelats is very controversial.
    By the way, it reminds a detsky constructor. And the barrel fixing system shown in the video looks like a bush on the basis of the same constructor.
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 6 November 2017 20: 49 New
    +1
    Even in the commercial, you can see a city car. In the tests, the snow is quite small, it seems they did not dare to check further, but the car skids. And what will happen if it is launched on chernozem after rain. A machine with a high center of gravity does not swing childishly.
    These are only first impressions, but I think the main problems will be with the return from the caponier or ravine after the shot, there will not be such trampled polygons.
    Although I suspect all these shortcomings are just trifles, compared to its price. Knowing who the owner of the Bogdan company is, we can safely assume that such equipment bought in the US or Israel would cost the Ukrainian budget cheaper .............. ....time will tell!
  19. chenia
    chenia 6 November 2017 21: 24 New
    +5
    Always said, for the formations of constant readiness, there is no better Vienna. Expensive. but this is the best battalion level system.
    As a mobilization option, a good base is correct (MTLB is possible). And a very true decision, shooting from the ground, followed by loading (unloading) onto the carrier.

    But loading into the body is an unnecessary complication. Much simpler is the pendulum lever (albeit on the hydraulics), with a niche for the slab and the groove for the trunk, is an open mount. It turns out an additional place for calculation and B / C.
    No automatic aiming machines are needed, everything can be calmly done manually (leave the biped).
    And if necessary, disconnect the mortar from the lever.

    In general, the mortar itself should be changed as little as possible. An attempt to complicate a simple thing is stupid, technical problems are increasing, and the gain in military use is negligible. This also applies to all kinds of self-propelled mortars with anti-skid and loading mechanisms.

    So. that if you complicate, then VIENNA, with ASUNO, direct fire. protection of the crew and with a range of one and a half dozen kilometers.
  20. assa67
    assa67 6 November 2017 21: 49 New
    +3
    and for this crap every time a hectare of forest will have to be cut down?
    1. Antares
      Antares 6 November 2017 23: 21 New
      0
      Quote: assa67
      and for this crap every time a hectare of forest will have to be cut down?

      hemp here will be worse than the forest.
      And there are not so many forests in this part of the steppe.
      1. assa67
        assa67 7 November 2017 09: 42 New
        +3
        in the photo there is something like a forest belt ...... there, in the background .... think Photoshop?
        1. Antares
          Antares 7 November 2017 10: 51 New
          0
          Quote: assa67
          in the photo there is something like a forest belt ...... there, in the background .... think Photoshop?

          Kiev region is a forest-steppe zone. The northern part of the Kiev region lies within the mixed forest zone (Ukrainian Polesie; Polesie lowland, 183 m), most of it is in the forest-steppe. In high resolution photo, it is rather the northern part of the Kiev region.

          I do not think that the car was created for war exclusively in the Kiev region.
          Most likely it was at the "Girls" training ground

          There they constantly check artillery systems, learn to train in exercises.
          1. assa67
            assa67 7 November 2017 16: 01 New
            +3
            happened in the "girl" to be ..... yes .... and the Urals are "Russian ... how is it that they have not yet been decommunized?
  21. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 6 November 2017 23: 34 New
    0
    And what, Ukrainians have already created an information system? In which should this mortar be included?
  22. Yoshi
    Yoshi 7 November 2017 01: 04 New
    0
    And I like the train of thought. Is the application in demand? Has a place to be? What is working now? How?
    That is, the customer is in demand. The tactics are clear. That which is attached to notebooks is understandable.
    Develop as they can. Well, the flag in their hands! Why not Russian? So who is the question?
  23. 72jora72
    72jora72 7 November 2017 04: 56 New
    0
    Quote: alex vau_2
    our weapons will find it everywhere - Syria has shown it!

    and what did Syria show you? Already on the street is not 2014, but 2017 .....

    And what has changed over these three years ???
  24. Misha Kvakina
    Misha Kvakina 7 November 2017 14: 16 New
    0
    Pro-oh-give-those !! ??
  25. 52057
    52057 8 November 2017 11: 46 New
    0
    Ukro-inventors followed the path of the Chinese? Purchase of samples and - to the conveyor?
    "Spanish Alakran mortars for Ukraine":
    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3673325.html
  26. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 8 November 2017 16: 53 New
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    I wonder what all this information system will cost in terms of electronic warfare?