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Norway received the first F-35 fighters

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The Norwegian Air Force received the first F-35 fighter jets. The press service of the Norwegian Air Force published on its official Luftforsvaret Facebook page images of the first F-35 aircraft arriving at Earland Airbase.


Norway is one of the countries participating in the development of the F-35 fighter. To date, the Norwegian Ministry of Defense has ordered the assembly of 52 aircraft, some of which can be equipped with a braking parachute. At the same time, the first fighters arriving in Norway do not have parachute capsules.

Norway received the first F-35 fighters

F-35 fighters at Earland Air Base.


The first three F-35A fighters for the Norwegian Air Force arrived from Fort Worth airfield (Texas) on their own. The planes took off in 6: 35 Norwegian time and arrived at Orland airbase around 15: 30. The three aircraft that received the onboard numbers AM-8, AM-9 and AM-10, will soon become part of the 338 squadron 138-th wing of the Norwegian Air Force, currently equipped with F-16 fighter jets.
On 10 November, the Norwegian Air Force planned an official ceremony to receive new fighters. In this case, the full staffing of the squadron with F-35 aircraft and its entry into combat duty are scheduled for 2019 year.

Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II - a family of fifth-generation fighter-bombers. As part of the F-35 program, it is planned to assemble about 3000 fighter-bombers, of which more than 2000 will be purchased by the US Department of Defense, another thousand units will be sold to countries participating in the development of the aircraft (Australia, Great Britain, Denmark, Italy, Canada, the Netherlands, Norway and Turkey), as well as countries that joined the procurement program later (Israel and Japan), reports "Warspot"
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 6 November 2017 08: 37 New
    +2
    3000 airplanes ... a large batch and profit for the US military-industrial complex ... but still crude aircraft will be cried with it by quite a few buyers.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 6 November 2017 08: 44 New
      +2
      The rich cry too. There is even a serial about this.
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 6 November 2017 09: 29 New
      24
      The F-35 promises to repeat the success of the F-16. and the larger the series, the cheaper. While others are angry with envy, US aircraft manufacturers are methodically doing their job. That's what you need to do. Well done, you can’t say anything!
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 6 November 2017 09: 42 New
        23
        Quote: xetai9977
        Well done, you can’t say anything!

        This is when you can’t say.
        "Success" f-16 is the same as the success of women's panty liners - a high and stable sales revenue and a similar place of application.
        The success of a military aircraft is manifested during the fighting. f-16 did not participate in those. I am talking about real hostilities against a strong, at least equal, enemy.
        We can talk about the successes of technology during the Great Patriotic War - a period of 4 years, rivals are equal.
        After it, the mattresses actually fought with the Papuans, who sometimes called the Russians for help. Naked jo. Where Russian mattresses appeared, they were blown away in place with their own equipment.
        1. Viktor.12.71
          Viktor.12.71 6 November 2017 10: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir16
          We can talk about the successes of technology during the Great Patriotic War - a period of 4 years, rivals are equal.

          The USSR utterly surpassed Fascist Germany.
          Quote: Vladimir16
          After it, the mattresses actually fought with the Papuans, who sometimes called the Russians for help. Naked jo. Where Russian mattresses appeared, they were blown away in place with their own equipment.

          For instance? Vietnam then okay. Yugoslavia? Something that the presence of Russian soldiers did not blow away the Americans who destroyed Yugoslavia. Lebanon? Egypt? Now it is not known what will happen in Syria after the defeat of the igil, one of the parties must cede or the conflict will continue to burn until one of the parties is exhausted.
          1. hrych
            hrych 6 November 2017 13: 28 New
            +5
            Quote: Viktor.12.71
            Something that the presence of Russian soldiers did not blow away the Americans who destroyed Yugoslavia. Lebanon? Egypt?

            Before you start throwing yourself with loud phrases, you need to know a little history. Yugoslavia was not included in the Warsaw Pact even during the Soviet era. If you are talking about an operation whose purpose was to take control of the Slatina airport, then you carried it out with the help of the combined battalion of the Russian Airborne Forces, which was part of the international peacekeeping contingent in Bosnia and Herzegovina (Uglevik city), to the city of Pristina (Kosovo). According to the operation plan, after the capture of the Slatina airport, the military transport aircraft of the Russian Air Force were to land on it soon, with which at least two regiments of the airborne forces and heavy military equipment were to be transferred. However, Hungary (a NATO member) and Bulgaria (a NATO ally) refused to provide Russia with an air corridor, as a result of which 200 paratroopers remained virtually alone for several days with all the NATO forces arriving. Lebanon has never been an ally of the Russian Federation. If only through the Syrians. In Egypt, a separate story, when the USSR refused to fight for Sadat, he lay down under the United States and the Americans were already mopped up from Sinai with a bang by the Americans.
            1. Viktor.12.71
              Viktor.12.71 6 November 2017 14: 32 New
              +4
              Egypt with the strong support of the USSR lost to Israel, Syria with the full support of the USSR lost to Israel, Lebanon was a ring. Dot.
              1. hrych
                hrych 6 November 2017 15: 02 New
                +5
                Quote: Viktor.12.71
                with the close support of the USSR

                Myth-making, apart from the supply of weapons and instructors, was nothing. Partly significant support was given to Vietnam, the result is known. Shameful defeat of the United States. Syria also. Real support was provided only now, when our pilots with the identification marks of the Russian Federation strike at the enemy. Israel assisted Georgia with weapons and instructors. We played Georgians completely. That we defeated the Israelites? If you take your logic, then yes. Also, Syria and Egypt also evicted the USSR, and the Yugoslavs generally hostile to us. And now we are charged with their defeat.
              2. Victor-M
                Victor-M 6 November 2017 16: 09 New
                +2
                Quote: Viktor.12.71
                Egypt with the strong support of the USSR lost to Israel, Syria with the full support of the USSR lost to Israel, Lebanon was a ring. Dot.

                And where was Kazakhstan during the USSR? laughing
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 6 November 2017 15: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: Viktor.12.71
            The USSR utterly surpassed Fascist Germany.

            Quite the opposite, the Third Reich excelled the USSR in everything.
            1. Viktor.12.71
              Viktor.12.71 6 November 2017 16: 39 New
              +3
              Quote: Setrac
              Quite the opposite, the Third Reich excelled the USSR in everything.

              First, compare the armored vehicles of the Wehrmacht and the Red Army at the beginning of the war, superiority without exception was on the side of the Red Army. Aviation was in no way inferior, and in some places even superior. The only superiority of the Wehrmacht over the Red Army was in organization, which gave an advantage to 41 years.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 6 November 2017 20: 02 New
                +4
                Quote: Viktor.12.71
                Compare armored vehicles first

                All have long been compared to us. The Third Reich with satellites was twice as superior to the USSR in population and four times in industrial potential. For tanks with anti-shell armor, the Third Reich surpassed the USSR.
                The only thing in which the USSR was superior to Europeans was the strength of spirit of the Russian people.
                1. Viktor.12.71
                  Viktor.12.71 6 November 2017 20: 22 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Setrac
                  All have long been compared to us. The Third Reich with satellites was twice as superior to the USSR in population and four times in industrial potential. For tanks with anti-shell armor, the Third Reich surpassed the USSR.
                  The only thing in which the USSR was superior to Europeans was the strength of spirit of the Russian people.

                  Take another look at how much military equipment the USSR and Germany produced in 40-45. Only t-34s for 39-48 years were released over 85 thousand. If in Germany industry would be stronger than the USSR, the war would be lost. The spirit is good, but the bullet is all the same.
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 6 November 2017 20: 33 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Viktor.12.71
                    Take another look at how much military equipment the USSR and Germany produced in 40-45.

                    You compare a cool table with the T-26 with the T-IV, I-16 with the M-109E, and some types of weapons of the USSR were produced for a long time after the war, but you proudly included them in the list.
                    Quote: Viktor.12.71
                    If in Germany industry would be stronger than the USSR, the war would be lost.

                    This suggests that the Russians worked better and more with the fourfold advantage of the enemy in industry, they were able to equal him and surpass them in something.
                    Quote: Viktor.12.71
                    Spirit is good, but the bullet is all the same.

                    But it’s not the same for the shooting soldier, whether his hand falters or not - this is where the willpower is manifested.
                    1. Viktor.12.71
                      Viktor.12.71 6 November 2017 21: 09 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Setrac
                      You compare a cool table with the T-26 with the T-IV, I-16 with the M-109E, and some types of weapons of the USSR were produced for a long time after the war, but you proudly included them in the list.

                      These are the most massive types of weapons of the parties on the eve of the war ...
                      Quote: Setrac
                      This suggests that the Russians worked better and more with the fourfold advantage of the enemy in industry, they were able to equal him and surpass them in something.

                      Germany did not have a 4-fold advantage against the USSR. The war lasts until one of the parties exhausts its industry and resources. This is the basics.
                      Quote: Setrac
                      But it’s not the same for the shooting soldier, whether his hand falters or not - this is where the willpower is manifested.

                      They didn’t serve in the army, it means that the soldier has no time to think, he does what the commanders yell at him. With willpower, you need to go to the freestyle wrestling section, you need it there.
                      1. not main
                        not main 6 November 2017 21: 51 New
                        0
                        Quote: Viktor.12.71

                        0
                        Viktor.12.71 Today, 21:09 PM ↑ New
                        Quote: Setrac
                        You compare a cool table with the T-26 with the T-IV, I-16 with the M-109E, and some types of weapons of the USSR were produced for a long time after the war, but you proudly included them in the list.

                        These are the most massive types of weapons of the parties on the eve of the war ...
                        Quote: Setrac
                        This suggests that the Russians worked better and more with the fourfold advantage of the enemy in industry, they were able to equal him and surpass them in something.

                        Germany did not have a 4-fold advantage against the USSR. The war lasts until one of the parties exhausts its industry and resources. This is the basics.
                        Quote: Setrac
                        But it’s not the same for the shooting soldier, whether his hand falters or not - this is where the willpower is manifested.

                        They didn’t serve in the army, it means that the soldier has no time to think, he does what the commanders yell at him.

                        I wonder what army you served in. Certainly not in CA!
                      2. Viktor.12.71
                        Viktor.12.71 6 November 2017 22: 01 New
                        +1
                        Quote: non-primary
                        I wonder what army you served in. Certainly not in CA!

                        Already not in that where by force of will and a shovel they went to tanks.
                      3. Setrac
                        Setrac 6 November 2017 22: 26 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Viktor.12.71
                        These are the most massive types of weapons of the parties on the eve of the war ...

                        And you are not confused by the fact that Soviet models are ten to fifteen years older?
                        Quote: Viktor.12.71
                        Germany did not have a 4-fold advantage against the USSR. The war lasts until one of the parties exhausts its industry and resources. This is the basics.

                        Tell the French, or the Poles, these basics of yours are wrong, the war of attrition is only if you can’t achieve a decisive defeat of the enemy in battle. In addition, the Third Reich with satellites had more resources than the USSR.
                        And it’s necessary to talk about Germany, Germany couldn’t have an advantage, because there wasn’t such a state at that time, there was the Third Reich with a population of 105 million people plus satellites, together they give almost double superiority in people.
                        Quote: Viktor.12.71
                        They didn’t serve in the army, it means that the soldier has no time to think, he does what the commanders yell at him.

                        He served two years of military service in the army, the commanders give orders so that you know.
                        Quote: Viktor.12.71
                        With willpower, you need to go to the freestyle wrestling section, you need it there.

                        In childhood, he was engaged in classical wrestling.
                  2. Prisoner
                    Prisoner 7 November 2017 11: 24 New
                    +1
                    You intentionally do not provide data on Hitler's allies or have you forgotten? winked The Red Army actually fought with the troops of the then EU actually.
                    1. Viktor.12.71
                      Viktor.12.71 7 November 2017 11: 49 New
                      0
                      Quote: Captive
                      You intentionally do not provide data on Hitler's allies or have you forgotten? winked The Red Army actually fought with the troops of the then EU actually.

                      Then I would write the OSI country. I compared exactly Fascist Germany and the USSR.
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac 7 November 2017 18: 27 New
                        0
                        Quote: Viktor.12.71
                        Then I would write the OSI country. I compared exactly Fascist Germany and the USSR.

                        This is not about axis countries, such as Japan, Italy, no one considers them, it is the Third Reich satellites and occupied countries that count: France, Romania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Finland, to a lesser extent Poland, Yugoslavia, Greece.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 6 November 2017 10: 40 New
          +7
          “f-16 did not participate in those. I’m talking about real military operations against the strong,
          at least equal, the enemy "////

          Did MiG-29 or Su-27 take part? Wet each other in Africa: Ethiopia vs. Eritrea.
          We have F-16 shot down a lot of Syrian MiG-23 and MiG-21, but, here you are right, you can’t call them an equal enemy. Past generation.
          1. Arikkhab
            Arikkhab 6 November 2017 12: 14 New
            +3
            Without begging the merits of Hale Avir, the example is a bit unsuccessful, as the one-on-one fights between the F-16 and Mig-23 were not conducted for obvious reasons. On the side of the Israelis was the best organization that included AWACS as well, which led to a well-known result. However, the superiority of the Israeli Air Force (as a system) does not reflect the fighting qualities of the F-16 or Mig-23 itself.
            According to the same Americans who had and tested several Mig-21s and Mig-23s - they did not consider these aircraft to be an "easy" enemy
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 November 2017 13: 38 New
              +6
              "However, the superiority of the Israeli Air Force (as a system) does not reflect the fighting qualities
              actually F-16 or Mig-23 "////

              It's right. But modern Air Force is always a SYSTEM. Like other types of troops.
              Two heroes do not go out to battle before the battle (as on the Kulikovo field),
              do not leave two tanks to arrange a duel one on one.
              Perhaps this lyrical introduction will help you understand why command
              The Israeli Air Force chose the F-35, and not Silent Isil, for example.
              We are interested in a strong and modern air force system.
            2. Mih1974
              Mih1974 7 November 2017 04: 34 New
              +1
              Why are you arguing with this, he’ll offer you to look at the “duel” of Migov and Sushki, but with bibizyanki in the booths laughing You better ask him about "what model and production was little bird knocking them down Hebrew Fu-35? tongue
        3. Professor
          Professor 6 November 2017 12: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir16
          . f-16 did not participate in those. I am talking about real hostilities against a strong, at least equal, enemy.

          Well, what can you do if, at the sight of F-16, all opponents become weak? lol
        4. Kent0001
          Kent0001 6 November 2017 12: 02 New
          +3
          This is primarily a commercial project and not a military one. This plane will never fly normally. But who should arm themselves with them. The States will make money on this. I think that owning countries with such aircraft is a show off worth more than money. No more. Well, if in the end it’s also taught to fly normally, then it’s your last turn.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 6 November 2017 12: 12 New
            +3
            "This is primarily a commercial project and not a military one" ///

            Come up with something more interesting. wink No longer find fault with the plane itself -
            start singing songs about commerce.
          2. tezey
            tezey 7 November 2017 00: 47 New
            0
            I do not agree with you. This project is both. And where did you get the idea that Lightning 2 will not teach you how to fly. And they will earn money and learn to fly. And I do not think that this is a show off. This is a very modern multi-purpose platform. At the same time, the Americans did not set the goal of achieving some outstanding technical characteristics such as high speed or over maneuverability when creating this machine. They focused on stealth, perfect avionics, multifunctionality. These properties will determine the tactics of its application. In addition, the number of copies planned for production is impressive. Can our aircraft industry contrast the same number of fifth-generation cars. Probably not. Therefore, an asymmetric answer is needed.
      2. SPACE
        SPACE 6 November 2017 11: 30 New
        +6
        Quote: xetai9977
        While others are angry with envy

        laughing I wonder what is there to envy? Maybe four 50 / 150 kilogram rockets in the internal compartments, with a range of 20 km? lol Or maybe his "invisibility"? lol How many kilometers will he fly in the area of ​​normal air defense being undetected? wassat So you misunderstood emotions and mixed up or betray your own, FU35, envy, cannot cause, except perhaps only in children, edoteans and owners, in normal ones only cheerful laughter laughing or tears crying sympathy for the pilots of this ash-ace, a non-bomber fighter.
        Z.Y. This aircraft is not only meaningless against a serious enemy, with such characteristics and cost, it is even useless against the Zulus.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 6 November 2017 12: 10 New
          +3
          Quote: SPACE
          How many kilometers will he fly in the area of ​​normal air defense being undetected?

          I'm a patriot, but I love the specifics.
          You see, you have the information - how long will the Fu-35 fly in the air defense zone and from what distance can the Fu35 use charms or weapons with nuclear weapons?
          Quote: SPACE
          Z.Y. This aircraft is not only meaningless against a serious enemy, with such characteristics and cost, it is even useless against the Zulus.

          Justify, or is it verbiage?
          PS.
          I have 3 caps, ready to throw the opponent.
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 6 November 2017 13: 08 New
            +3
            Quote: Scoun
            You see, you have the information - how long will the Fu-35 fly in the air defense zone and from what distance can the Fu35 use charms or weapons with nuclear weapons?

            How well that you understood me and I mean the same thing! laughing On the one hand, they seem to consider it invisible, on the other, they make long-range missiles under it !? They stuck to the external points of the suspension, but with the carrying capacity and range where it will fly and what it will take away, all the more so without invisibility. At the same time, there are only 4 pieces of internal suspension points, with so many weapons it is practically unarmed and defenseless, and you can forget about air supremacy as a fighter, and as a bomber, and you won’t even be able to pull at an interceptor at that speed. They made a helmet to see through the plane, for what? maneuverable close combat? and what place is invisibility here? Why gun? With such maneuverability as an ax, how many chances he has in maneuvering combat. Or maybe he is a ground attack aircraft, will dive and water from a machine gun on the ground?))) But with such a reservation, his magpies will even bite him. In short, you quite rightly noticed Fu-35 this is one continuous contradiction and misunderstanding: Well, how to use it and against whom? But if you imagine it as just a Product, well, like a flying iPhone with Gadgets for making money on fools, then just right!
            Quote: Scoun
            Justify, or is it verbiage?

            Is it enough?
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 6 November 2017 12: 17 New
          +4
          For general development
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 6 November 2017 13: 21 New
            +3
            Quote: voyaka uh
            For general development

            And apparently, has this advertisement already developed or spread you? laughing
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 November 2017 13: 39 New
              0
              This is the performance characteristics of the aircraft. If you are not able to read it ... sad
              1. Filxnumx
                Filxnumx 6 November 2017 18: 51 New
                +3
                only weapons options are visible in the picture, no TTX. Or in the country of the God-fighters, this term is now understood as the number of trinkets that could be attached to this wunderwaffle if it were the size of a B-29. Wei, how low have morals fallen?
              2. Krabik
                Krabik 7 November 2017 01: 14 New
                0
                Although I like the F-35, but your picture is clearly very interesting!

                Do you think that he can really take off with the weapons in the picture that you brought?
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 7 November 2017 11: 50 New
                  +1
                  It is clear that not with all these weapons TOGETHER. smile
                  Lists all types of bombs and missiles that he can place
                  in internal compartments and / or on external pylons.
                  The picture shows that the F-35 is able to work with the KR planning
                  bombs, barrage of ammunition, nuclear weapons, precision bombs (and conventional) and all kinds of modern explosive missiles.
          2. Victor-M
            Victor-M 6 November 2017 16: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            For general development

            They forgot to draw a laser gun. You still lay out the landing of the Americans on the moon, and the inscription on the fence. laughing
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 November 2017 16: 25 New
              +4
              "... and the inscription on the fence" ////

              I somehow didn’t take your level into account ... sorry. hi
          3. Nurtai
            Nurtai 6 November 2017 16: 36 New
            +2
            Sorry, but when suspended from an external suspension, the aircraft will be visible from afar. This happened to the stealth during the Yugoslav conflict: he opened a bomb gate and then he was seen and covered
      3. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 13: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: xetai9977
        The F-35 promises to repeat the success of the F-16. and the larger the series, the cheaper. While others are angry with envy, US aircraft manufacturers are methodically doing their job. That's what you need to do. Well done, you can’t say anything!

        Hetay, well, you get these vaunted fighter on credit (Israel will try)))
        Try to bomb Nagorno-Karabakh with the support of tanks (our supplies of T-72, in the amount of 100 pieces ..)))
        I'm afraid Baku will be Armenian .... Armenia is just waiting for a reason.!
        So it’s better for less praise of the West and Israel xetai9977, No matter what happens ..! soldier
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 7 November 2017 01: 20 New
          +1
          Actually, we won Baku from Iran.

          What does Armenia have to do with it?

          Maybe they also capture Moscow for one?
    3. Chestnut
      Chestnut 6 November 2017 10: 57 New
      +7
      Quote: The same Lech
      3000 airplanes ... a large batch and profit for the US military-industrial complex ... but still crude aircraft will be cried with it by quite a few buyers.

      In vain, gnaw, America is not Russia, their problems are resolved quickly.
      Another question is when Russia will give birth to t5o and how many years it will correct deficiencies, and for how long it will build the first hundred, without exaggeration, at such a pace, in the year 2050 there will be a hundred t50, maybe even later, when the Americans will have the concept of sixth generation fighters, with the ability to wage war in space.

      Well, what to do, we’ll purchase the sixth generation in China.
      1. Arikkhab
        Arikkhab 6 November 2017 12: 18 New
        +1
        only the F-35 isn’t in any way a competitor to the T-50 - different classes all the same
        1. MadCat
          MadCat 6 November 2017 17: 50 New
          0
          Quote: ArikKhab
          only the F-35 isn’t in any way a competitor to the T-50 - different classes all the same

          no one will interfere with the latest modification of the rocket according to the "non-competitor". And if you consider how much the f35 will be built, you still need to see who is not a competitor to anyone.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 6 November 2017 16: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Chestnut
        when the Americans will have the concept of sixth generation fighters, with the ability to wage war in space.

        On Russian engines?
        1. MadCat
          MadCat 6 November 2017 17: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Setrac
          On Russian engines?

          And what is better than Russian engines for the 5th generation of American? So that they are still not in production?
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 6 November 2017 20: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: Chestnut
            with the ability to wage war in space.

            Quote: MadCat
            And what is better than Russian engines

            Then they fly into space on Russian engines.
            1. MadCat
              MadCat 6 November 2017 21: 48 New
              0
              Quote: Setrac
              Then they fly into space on Russian engines.

              Of course, for the fact that the United States bought the engines on the cheap, they should sprinkle ash on their heads and repent.
              Americans can afford it, they are not afraid to buy what they need in other countries. Moreover, not only on these engines are launches ...
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 6 November 2017 22: 29 New
                0
                Quote: MadCat
                Of course, for the fact that the United States bought the engines on the cheap, they should sprinkle ash on their heads and repent.

                But do you suggest that we “sprinkle our heads with ashes” for using things that were not produced in Russia? What strange double standards? Repent!
                Quote: MadCat
                Americans can afford it, they are not afraid to buy what they need in other countries.

                You don’t think that the categories “afraid-not afraid” look like that ... stupid? Why should Russia be “afraid of? And why cannot Russia afford?
                1. MadCat
                  MadCat 7 November 2017 01: 00 New
                  0
                  Quote: Setrac
                  for using things not made in Russia? What strange double standards?

                  they made a successful deal, so I do not see point-blank why seizing the potreots they think they should die of shame from this, and only a person from an alternative reality can think that they do not have their own engines.
                  Quote: Setrac
                  You don’t think that the categories “afraid-not afraid” look like that ... stupid? Why should Russia be “afraid of? And why cannot Russia afford?

                  Because "turn off the gas" laughing
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 7 November 2017 18: 30 New
                    0
                    Quote: MadCat
                    they made a successful deal, so I do not see point-blank why seizing the potreots they think they should die of shame from this, and only a person from an alternative reality can think that they do not have their own engines.

                    But we think you should die of shame that I have an American processor in my computer, and only a person from an alternative reality can think that Russia does not have its own processors.
                    Quote: MadCat
                    Because "turn off the gas"

                    And we give you electricity ...
      3. Victor-M
        Victor-M 6 November 2017 16: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Chestnut
        Well, what to do, we’ll purchase the sixth generation in China.

        Whoever said shame! Shredded Germany.
    4. Maz
      Maz 6 November 2017 11: 21 New
      0
      Let all joints on the plane immediately grease with fat, or else it will rot through
    5. Scoun
      Scoun 6 November 2017 11: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      but still crude aircraft will be cried with it by quite a few buyers.

      But worth noting!

      The planes took off at 6:35 a.m. Norwegian time and arrived at Erland airbase at about 15:30 p.m.

      This is how they are with refueling or 9 hours on their own however.
      By the way, our better able to "see" the cons and pros of our radars, they say about the F-22 a serious opponent in terms of visibility.
  2. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 6 November 2017 08: 37 New
    +3
    Norway - F-35? Yes, what are you? Norwegians like to save money, and suddenly such a purchase. Suspiciously.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 6 November 2017 08: 53 New
      11
      Quote: Knizhnik
      Norway - F-35? Yes, what are you? Norwegians like to save money, and suddenly such a purchase. Suspiciously.

      A market economy is not when they buy what they need, but when losers get any garbage. Bent over the former Vikings.
      1. Going
        Going 6 November 2017 09: 01 New
        12
        They also seem to be participants in this project:

        Norway is one of the countries participating in the development of the F-35 fighter.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 6 November 2017 10: 56 New
          +3
          "Participants" in quotes for infusion of dough.
          1. Going
            Going 6 November 2017 12: 32 New
            +9
            Of course, only money.
      2. Arikkhab
        Arikkhab 6 November 2017 12: 19 New
        0
        There is nothing to choose from. Of the 5th generation on the market, only F-35 is currently available.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 November 2017 10: 42 New
      +4
      "Norwegians love to save money" ////

      This is the saving. When you buy the latest model, you pay
      once. When outdated - you pay once, and once again for its quick replacement.
      1. Knizhnik
        Knizhnik 6 November 2017 13: 49 New
        +1
        And you can not buy at all. Does Norway need such aircraft in such numbers? That’s what it’s all about, not whether it’s a good plane or not.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 6 November 2017 14: 12 New
          +1
          Norway has a painful experience. She did not have a strong army during
          World War II, and she could not prevent the occupation of the Nazi country
          Germany. Hoping for the English fleet, but he went to defend actually
          England did not help. 50 modern aircraft (both fighter and attack aircraft at the same time)
          are a strong defense factor.
          1. Knizhnik
            Knizhnik 6 November 2017 14: 51 New
            +2
            The armies and abruptly then too "could not prevent the occupation," you know, it depends on who is occupying. Now - not "then", now Norway is a member of NATO. Yes, for God's sake, they were able to sell - well done, you know how.
            1. Winnie76
              Winnie76 6 November 2017 15: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: Knizhnik
              Now - not "then", now Norway is a member of NATO.

              Oh yes, now all the members of NATO, all as one, will rise to the defense of rainbow Norway laughing
              1. Mih1974
                Mih1974 7 November 2017 04: 44 New
                +1
                They will rise, take off their hats and bow their heads "over the deceased." laughing Well, Poland, of course, definitely - he will declare war on Russia, but according to the old tradition, he will be from London. laughing
            2. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 6 November 2017 16: 10 New
              +1
              I look, you are a good person, God grant you and your loved ones health!
          2. Cook
            Cook 6 November 2017 20: 05 New
            0
            Why did they endure that for so long?
          3. TOR2
            TOR2 6 November 2017 20: 51 New
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Norway has a painful experience.

            She has a chance to repeat the past "success". Only this time everything will be tougher. A pair of underwater nuclear explosions. And all coastal infrastructure along with oil platforms will be buried in a few minutes with a water hammer. Perhaps somersaulting somersaults. Then there will be crowds of refugees in the direction of Sweden. An underwater nuclear explosion is conditionally clean, so no one will be too shy to press the "start" button. Well, why the F-35 in such a situation?
            1. MadCat
              MadCat 6 November 2017 21: 58 New
              0
              Quote: TOR2
              A pair of underwater nuclear explosions.

              well, fantasize, fantasize, even after the use of tactical nuclear weapons by NATO on clusters of Russian troops, the Russian government caused deep concern and in a harsh form demanded an apology! laughing
              1. TOR2
                TOR2 6 November 2017 22: 48 New
                +1
                Quote: MadCat
                even after the use of NATO on clusters of Russian troops tactical nuclear weapons
                Congestion where? The use of nuclear weapons on the territory of the state and the explosion in neutral waters are two different things.
                Of course, they will express concern, but wartime changes everything, literally everything is cardinal. Let's be realistic. The military, unlike the spokesmen, has no where to run. Yes, and the first has repeatedly threatened The Hague. So at one point, a group of officers will enter the office of the spokesman and in a soft form will plant 9 grams between the horns.
                1. MadCat
                  MadCat 7 November 2017 01: 17 New
                  0
                  My preoccupied war scenario is far more realistic than your bullshit tongue
              2. Mih1974
                Mih1974 7 November 2017 04: 48 New
                +2
                Unlike idiots, smart people know that - Each commander who has the ability to use nuclear weapons does it on his own. That is, the commander of an atomic cancer carrier, is only waiting for an order to use missiles, but he can do this without an order (technically).
                1. MadCat
                  MadCat 7 November 2017 06: 04 New
                  0
                  Quote: Mih1974
                  Unlike idiots, smart people know that - Each commander who has the ability to use nuclear weapons does it on his own. That is, the commander of an atomic cancer carrier, is only waiting for an order to use missiles, but he can do this without an order (technically).

                  practically and theoretically, without an order, "independently" cannot be applied.
      2. Filxnumx
        Filxnumx 6 November 2017 19: 10 New
        0
        to pay for a new thing once, the thing must be reliable as a sledgehammer. And you have already gone corrosion. Well to say about Norway, there is continuous dampness! True, there are few sunny days - this is undoubtedly a plus for the pepelats, who is afraid of sunlight., It's just some kind of zombie.
  3. Barshchik-M
    Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 08: 37 New
    +4
    Let them hang themselves ...! wassat
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 6 November 2017 08: 41 New
      +4
      Hello Vitaly! hi Hope these three letaka are not from a rusty lot? lol
      1. Smog
        Smog 6 November 2017 08: 50 New
        +3
        Well so, we got under our own power ........
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 6 November 2017 09: 03 New
          +4
          Kostya, this is not an indicator. Rusty cars also often get to the scrap collection point on their own. lol
          1. analgin
            analgin 6 November 2017 09: 09 New
            +4
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Kostya, this is not an indicator. Rusty cars also often get to the scrap collection point on their own. lol

            Start boasting now with Belarusian achievements. Only since I personally came across these "achievements" in the form of MAZs and "Belarus" do you boast cautiously. repeat
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 6 November 2017 11: 09 New
              +2
              Quote: analgin
              Start boasting now with Belarusian achievements.

              We sell shrimp.

              Your car industry is also not without a flaw.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 6 November 2017 16: 05 New
                0
                Quote: saturn.mmm
                We sell shrimp.

                Huckster
                1. Mih1974
                  Mih1974 7 November 2017 04: 50 New
                  +1
                  Not no, they are not hucksters, they are poachers. Not only do they sell the most in the world of seafood, they also have their own sea only in the psak fantasies. laughing
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 7 November 2017 18: 32 New
                    0
                    Quote: Mih1974
                    so they have their own sea only in the fantasies of Psakov.

                    This is a rare sea listed in the Red Book
          2. Anarchist
            Anarchist 6 November 2017 09: 13 New
            13
            Greetings, comrade!
            I believe, What to buy junk, it's exclusively a master's business! Maybe they like things with antiques ... Fashion is like that!
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 6 November 2017 09: 15 New
              +4
              And you don’t get sick! hi Here, apparently, as in the saying: "The collective farm is voluntary. If you want, you go, you don’t want to, you go anyway." . lol
              1. Anarchist
                Anarchist 6 November 2017 09: 22 New
                12
                About the collective farm. That's for sure! Some even protect rusty Hawks ... BelAZ probably moved them, since Belarusians do not like it that way ... By the way, a good example of Belarusian equipment ...
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 6 November 2017 09: 30 New
                  +3
                  I ignore such comments. Let them protect what they want, even rusty buckets with bolts. yes
                  1. analgin
                    analgin 6 November 2017 09: 46 New
                    +2
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    I ignore such comments. Let them protect what they want, even rusty buckets with bolts. yes

                    Yes, you write easier: I ignore all comments where I "swim" in a substantive conversation. I can only write uncomplicated posts in two lines like "Everything is g @ obvious, and we will throw all of them with caps" !!!
                    PS: Did I protect something somewhere? bully
          3. NIKNN
            NIKNN 6 November 2017 10: 33 New
            +3
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Rusty cars also often get to the scrap collection point on their own.

            Associations surged. Like a scrap metal collection point Norway .., and probably a recycling point Russia? Closer to Norway, it seems, no. smile
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 6 November 2017 10: 36 New
              +3
              Hi Kolya ! hi
              Quote: NIKNN
              and the recycling point is probably Russia?

              Stopudovo! yes
              1. NIKNN
                NIKNN 6 November 2017 10: 40 New
                +3
                Hello Pasha! hi
                Only now they should submit applications for utilization beforehand, otherwise they will stand in line for a long time ..., there are enough customers ... wink
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 6 November 2017 10: 43 New
                  +2
                  That's it . How is Polygraph Poligrafych said: "In turn, dogs, children!" . lol
                  1. NIKNN
                    NIKNN 6 November 2017 10: 44 New
                    +2
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    "In turn, dogs dogs!"

                    laughing
      2. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 11: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Hello Vitaly! hi Hope these three letaka are not from a rusty lot? lol

        Hello Pasha ! That's how it worked out for me .. (could not stand it ..)))
        The United States is now scattering these “airplanes” trying to recoup their development .. Well, Israel will sell its “firmware” there .. I think everyone will be happy, but this “creature” will not be able to fight .. We’ll be wet for two or three times ..!
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 6 November 2017 12: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          That's how it worked out for me .. (could not stand it ..)))

          You won’t throw words out of a song. wink
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          I think everyone will be happy

          These merchants will not leave themselves unprofitable. But buyers rake up fuel. yes
          1. Barshchik-M
            Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 13: 23 New
            +4
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            But buyers rake up fuel.

            Tortured to serve .. And if you kill? Paul budget immediately "down the drain." he he
  4. Cat
    Cat 6 November 2017 08: 38 New
    +6
    Ironically, for me, Norway has F35, Norway has no F35 - it’s not warm, not cold! Good day!
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 6 November 2017 09: 16 New
      +3
      Cat hi but it’s not indifferent to our Pvoshniks what new aircraft with new features, training will go on continuously soldier
    2. askort154
      askort154 6 November 2017 11: 45 New
      +2
      Kitty ...... Not paradoxically, for me Norway has F35, Norway has no F35 - it’s not warm, not cold! Good day!


      Yeah. There is a saying - "there is no silver lining." I think for our developers of air defense systems, this is a wonderful gift. They will kill two birds with one stone:
      - to test their products on live "invisible" without leaving the country,
      - receive a polar salary supplement.
  5. Going
    Going 6 November 2017 08: 47 New
    11
    To date, the Norwegian Ministry of Defense has ordered the assembly of 52 aircraft,


    Why exactly 52, there was not enough money? , so everything seems to be fine with the money or is it just we like round numbers.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 6 November 2017 09: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Going
      Why exactly 52

      2 is a ZIP. In fact, I suppose 22 zipped.
      1. Going
        Going 6 November 2017 09: 11 New
        10
        Well, if only so laughing , then "file" in their hands.
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 6 November 2017 09: 24 New
      +3
      Going hi -52 boards pl number of weeks per year wassat that is, one plane should fall every week wassat , then they will order another batch of 52 boards - next year! !! good
      1. Going
        Going 6 November 2017 09: 32 New
        +9
        I did not think, but there is something to it.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 6 November 2017 10: 47 New
        +3
        So far, out of 300 that fly (120,000 hours in total in the air)
        not one has fallen yet. This is the world record for reliability for new
        fighter models.
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 6 November 2017 11: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          So far, out of 300 that fly (120,000 hours in total in the air)
          not one has fallen yet. This is the world record for reliability for new
          fighter models.

          The US Air Force completed investigations into the incident a year ago, when the F-35A burned out during take-off. Expected results - the failed turbine blade of the engine is to blame. Fragments pierced the fuel tank (including the tank - and so went to hydraulics and naturally to the engine), which caused a fire.

          Apparently, the plane decided not to restore, but to disassemble for parts.

          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 6 November 2017 11: 33 New
            0
            This is an incident on earth. The plane has not yet begun movement.
            1. askort154
              askort154 6 November 2017 13: 03 New
              +3
              voyaka uh ....This is an incident on earth. The plane has not yet begun movement.

              Naturally, there is a big difference when you have a shot in the ass. Tolley running, roofing felts standing. wink
            2. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 6 November 2017 14: 35 New
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              This is an incident on earth. The plane has not yet begun movement.

              The pilot was lucky.
            3. Victor-M
              Victor-M 6 November 2017 16: 18 New
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              This is an incident on earth. The plane has not yet begun movement.

              Well, of course, as always, it’s good that they haven’t dumped the birds yet. laughing
        2. askort154
          askort154 6 November 2017 11: 55 New
          +2
          voyaka uh .....So far, out of 300 that fly (120,000 hours in total in the air), not one has fallen. This is a world record for reliability for new fighter models.

          Well, you're straight married to fu. Wherever the abbreviation F-35 appears on the internet,
          "voyaka uh" is right there, regardless of the time of day or weather conditions. tongue
        3. Barshchik-M
          Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 12: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          So far, out of 300 that fly (120,000 hours in total in the air)
          not one has fallen yet. This is the world record for reliability for new
          fighter models.

          Let them try to fly over Syria .. Even at supersonic! Let's practice ... hehe
          1. vadsonen
            vadsonen 6 November 2017 12: 57 New
            +3
            Let them try to fly over Syria .. Even at supersonic! Let's practice ... hehe

            Even the F-16 (Israeli), not to mention the F-35, flew over Syria many times, and each time the Syrians bent down as they wanted. Despite the fact that Syria was stuffed with Soviet air defense every time.
            1. askort154
              askort154 6 November 2017 13: 12 New
              +1
              vadsonen ....Even the F-16 (Israeli), not to mention the F-35, flew over Syria many times, and each time the Syrians bent down as they wanted. Despite the fact that Syria was stuffed with Soviet air defense every time.

              Of course, how the MiG-25 flew over Israel, and your air defense, with longing looked at them in the wake, you do not remember. belay
            2. Barshchik-M
              Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 13: 43 New
              +3
              Quote: vadsonen
              Even the F-16 (Israeli), not to mention the F-35, flew over Syria many times, and each time the Syrians bent down as they wanted. Despite the fact that Syria was stuffed with Soviet air defense every time

              Well, I don’t know, Jews take off and launch a missile strike on Syria in their airspace or from Lebanon ..))))
              Afraid of the bastards run into!
              There are a lot of boomers now in Israel! We gouge their "merkavki" immediately if they turn up!
              Russia is no longer the USSR, now we are angry and wet everything and everyone ... You can check! soldier But I do not advise ...
    3. Großer feldherr
      Großer feldherr 6 November 2017 09: 27 New
      +2
      And how many should a country with 5 million people and without enemies around have?
      Only the Euro-media are “believing" in a real conflict with Russia, the military and officials of all Europe themselves cut and reduce their army from year to year.
      To patrol their skies, 52 aircraft will be enough for them.
      1. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 12: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: Großer Feldherr
        And how many should a country with 5 million people and without enemies around have?

        How much the budget will overpower ..! hehe And so with all NATO countries, stand in line mongrel or drying and the twinks will fly with you ..! When selling, as the United States tells them all in an imperative tone ..
  6. assa67
    assa67 6 November 2017 09: 05 New
    +4
    Normans pretend to our north-west ... here they are arming themselves. They don’t want to renew the agreement on Svalbard ... and they present the presentations almost to the Taimyr ..... they covered themselves with a striped blanket and vyzhivatsya
    1. Going
      Going 6 November 2017 09: 14 New
      +9
      Well, wanting is not harmful and the F-35 will not help them.
  7. NEXUS
    NEXUS 6 November 2017 09: 05 New
    +3
    One thing is for sure, that the F-35 will meet with Russian new fighters somewhere, given the fact that purposefully mattresses bring this product of American aircraft to everyone who can.
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 6 November 2017 09: 13 New
    +5
    Let them fly more often and closer to our borders, so that we can effortlessly remove all the characteristics of the aircraft, and at the same time check the bike that their EPR is almost at the level of statistical error! And air defense our training training at the same time hold!
  9. Strashila
    Strashila 6 November 2017 09: 18 New
    +8
    The more aircraft of the same type ... the easier it is for our air defense and airborne forces.
    1. Going
      Going 6 November 2017 12: 35 New
      +9
      Quote: Strashila
      The more aircraft of the same type ... the easier it is for our air defense and airborne forces.


      It’s also true, it’s easier to set up, train and cook.
  10. Egorovich
    Egorovich 6 November 2017 10: 23 New
    +5
    Norway received the first F-35s, well with an initiative, they will begin to crumble soon. Then the birds will peck them, as in Israel. Have a good flight!!!
  11. screw cutter
    screw cutter 6 November 2017 11: 03 New
    0
    It’s very good that Norway received this super-duper plane. In spring, in the summer we will see (the whole world) how these high-tech products will simply fly.
  12. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 6 November 2017 11: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Viktor.12.71
    For instance? Vietnam then okay. Yugoslavia? Something that the presence of Russian soldiers did not blow away the Americans who destroyed Yugoslavia. Lebanon? Egypt? Now it is not known what will happen in Syria after the defeat of the igil, one of the parties must cede or the conflict will continue to burn until one of the parties is exhausted.


    Not a good example of Yugoslavia which the Yeltsin company actually betrayed.
    And where our guys were amers, only diapers remained to be changed.
  13. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 6 November 2017 11: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Chestnut
    Quote: The same Lech
    3000 airplanes ... a large batch and profit for the US military-industrial complex ... but still crude aircraft will be cried with it by quite a few buyers.

    In vain, gnaw, America is not Russia, their problems are resolved quickly.
    Another question is when Russia will give birth to t5o and how many years it will correct deficiencies, and for how long it will build the first hundred, without exaggeration, at such a pace, in the year 2050 there will be a hundred t50, maybe even later, when the Americans will have the concept of sixth generation fighters, with the ability to wage war in space.

    Well, what to do, we’ll purchase the sixth generation in China.

    Himself something not funny? What is the 6th generation in Matrasia? Their F-35 rusts, the pilots are choking and the software is raw. With any series, this plane will not drop cheaper than $ 145 million, plus maintenance costs: rain or hail - change coverage.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 November 2017 11: 44 New
      +2
      "With any series, this aircraft will not fall cheaper than $ 145 million" ///

      The Pentagon bought the last batch of 69 pieces from Lockheed at 85 million apiece.
      (including engine).
      1. iouris
        iouris 6 November 2017 12: 13 New
        +2
        Tram said - Trump did. However, the discussion about the fighting qualities of the F-35 is meaningless: North American multinationals have long had no one to compete with, they are higher than the competition by definition. Whatever the military-industrial complex, “allies” will still be forced to buy (this does not mean that the plane is bad), while the price will be what the US administration will charge. A military pilot is a person who enjoys at public expense. I wonder if China asked for two hundred F-35s, would they sell it? And four?
        1. Going
          Going 6 November 2017 12: 38 New
          +8
          Quote: iouris
          I wonder if China asked for two hundred F-35s, would they sell it? And four?


          China will need a dozen or more to copy.
          1. iouris
            iouris 6 November 2017 12: 56 New
            0
            It doesn’t matter how much China needs to “copy”, I’m not sure that you can clone an object like the F-35. In general, this is not the case.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 6 November 2017 12: 56 New
          +2
          "Whatever the military-industrial complex does," allies "will still be forced to buy" ////

          Why? The choice of NATO. Europe sells Typhoon. France - Rafale. Sweden - Grifen.
          States: F-15 Silent Isil, F-18 Super Hornet.
          Bad planes? - no.
          And why, after all, developed countries do not buy these beautiful military vehicles, but the F-35?
          It's time to understand - the 4th generation is DEPRECATED.
          It is not a matter of commerce, but namely of combat capabilities.
          1. iouris
            iouris 6 November 2017 13: 45 New
            +2
            “Combat capabilities” is, of course, yes. Aging is also yes. The United States and NATO and Israel have no one else to fight on equal terms in the air, so no matter what Israel (from the above) you buy, the Israeli Air Force will be the strongest on theater. But I bought it F-35. There is no commerce here, only politics. The US administration will not understand another decision by Israel and other "allies."
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 November 2017 15: 35 New
              +3
              "exclusively politics. The US administration will not understand Israel’s other decision" ///

              Wrong. Absolutely.

              In 2010, ordering the F-35 was risky.
              Then the plane had really unresolved problems, not
              what now. And Boeing, a longtime friend of Israel, pushed his Silent Eagle with
              high hopes for success, given the great and positive experience of Israel
              with Strike Eagle. The then administration NO pressure
              I didn’t. Anyway, Israel was buying an American plane -
              which one? - they did not care.
              The decision was made (and unanimously) when specialists showed how
              F-35 flies around the radar. Different radars.
              1. iouris
                iouris 6 November 2017 23: 23 New
                0
                And I guess that it is not the consumer who dictates what he needs, but the producer that forms the need in the consumer that he can satisfy only in one way: to buy what the manufacturer did. At the same time, the consumer is confident that the manufacturer revolves around him. After all, it seems to man that he is motionless, and the Sun rotates around him. Well, okay, I will not argue. Stay in the middle. Let Lockheeds and Boeings spin.
            2. Mih1974
              Mih1974 7 November 2017 05: 00 New
              +1
              With what pisyuna the Izrail air forces are there the strongest? Maybe they are the most foul - yes, they can’t take it from them, they strike either from their own space or from the territory of a foreign country that they have already bombed. But let our VKS try to “win” in a fair battle, sho weak? tongue
              And ours there is nothing at all, because "if what," we, too, "will bring light and warmth" to their homes from our MBRK territory. good
              1. Gml
                Gml 7 November 2017 10: 39 New
                0
                "defeat" our VKS in fair battle
                But how? On horseback? On Frets? Well, there must be some sort of minimum selection on the cargo carriers.
                bring light and warmth to their homes
                And if you get it yourself? You’ll whine again, but for what?
              2. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
                Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 16 January 2018 22: 47 New
                0
                and I see it: the su-35, hung with caps, try to understand through obstacles where the missiles are coming from
          2. askort154
            askort154 6 November 2017 14: 07 New
            0
            voyaka uh ...... It is not a matter of commerce, but of combat capabilities.

            As soon as you give an example of the real "combat capabilities" of your favorite, I forgive all your propaganda on the site. God forbid, you will announce that they have long been involved in all the conflicts unleashed by the United States in this century - I will shoot myself! recourse
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 November 2017 15: 12 New
              +1
              You will have to wait until the end of December. In December
              the last Software Block will be put on planes. Farther
              they will add Israeli software for our missiles: Spice, Python ...
              And they will begin to take regular part in hostilities.
          3. Setrac
            Setrac 6 November 2017 16: 08 New
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            And why, after all, developed countries do not buy these beautiful military vehicles, but the F-35?

            lobbying
          4. Victor-M
            Victor-M 6 November 2017 16: 21 New
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            It's time to understand - the 4th generation is DEPRECATED.

            And the fifth has not yet been born. Quantity does not mean that it is a full fifth generation.
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 6 November 2017 20: 07 New
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The Pentagon bought the last batch of 69 pieces from Lockheed at 85 million apiece.
        (including engine).

        As Professor Prufik in the studio says, Lockheed seems to promise 19 million in 85.
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 7 November 2017 05: 03 New
          +1
          There were rumors that Trump "ordered" to issue this party at such a price, "or turn off the gas." There definitely are some “undercover” agreements on transferring the rest of the amount through some sort of “anus”. But what exactly is there, we seem to never know request
  14. Kurosaki Ichigo
    Kurosaki Ichigo 6 November 2017 12: 39 New
    +1
    You can only be happy for the Norwegians!
    When will ours be put on the wing of the Su-57 and then brought to mind? Hope that fast.
    1. iouris
      iouris 6 November 2017 12: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Ichigo Kurosaki
      You can only be happy for the Norwegians!

      And for what purpose can one be "happy for the Norwegians"?
      1. Kurosaki Ichigo
        Kurosaki Ichigo 6 November 2017 13: 10 New
        0
        And for what purpose can one be "happy for the Norwegians"?

        And just like that, you can’t be happy for the Norwegians?
        What kind of witch hunt?
        1. iouris
          iouris 6 November 2017 13: 39 New
          +2
          No "hunting." It is interesting to know for what purpose you rejoice?
          1. Kurosaki Ichigo
            Kurosaki Ichigo 6 November 2017 13: 46 New
            0
            No "hunting." It is interesting to know for what purpose you rejoice?

            Just happy because I can.
            1. iouris
              iouris 6 November 2017 23: 16 New
              0
              It is clear, you think, that other people are disabled and are not able to rejoice.
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 7 November 2017 00: 27 New
                0
                all I took a joyful military pencil. The KGB was busy too. Antonina’s secret agent will send us an ipadress soon and we will press this pad
  15. 501Legion
    501Legion 6 November 2017 13: 01 New
    +4
    Norway ordered more than 35x than Russia Su57 and is likely to make total less. very sorry
  16. John Doe
    John Doe 6 November 2017 14: 32 New
    +1
    Krutetskiy plane, it is not surprising that everyone wants it.
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 6 November 2017 21: 02 New
      0
      In the 90s there was one such. And also krutetsk.
      1. Gml
        Gml 6 November 2017 21: 20 New
        0
        In the 90s there was one such.
        Here is that one. How many visits were made while one knocked out?
        1. TOR2
          TOR2 6 November 2017 21: 58 New
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          But what were they taking out from Slovenia by truck at night? There another "wunderwafel" gave up the spirit.
          1. Gml
            Gml 6 November 2017 22: 00 New
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            what was exported
            And even if two? Although Slovenia is not known to anyone except you. How many have you fallen in Georgia? Do you need to compare?
            1. TOR2
              TOR2 6 November 2017 22: 36 New
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              Quote: gml
              Do you need to compare?

              Of course it is. In Georgia, technology of one generation participated, which cannot be said about the Balkans. When the F-117 was developed, and when the C-125.
  17. Приговор
    Приговор 6 November 2017 14: 40 New
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    Let them be processed immediately by the anticorrosive system and the pilots should not forget to supply scuba gear ..;)))))))))
  18. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 6 November 2017 17: 26 New
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    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Vladimir16
    . f-16 did not participate in those. I am talking about real hostilities against a strong, at least equal, enemy.

    Well, what can you do if, at the sight of F-16, all opponents become weak? lol

    Now there will be no F-16s and F-35s. Stiletto, Governor, Yars and a mustache will arrive! The promised land will end. Again you will be Sodom and Gomorrah! wassat
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 6 November 2017 18: 03 New
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      Quote: Dzafdet
      Now there will be no F-16s and F-35s. Stiletto, Governor, Yars and a mustache will arrive! The promised land will end. Again you will be Sodom and Gomorrah! wassat

      300 warheads arriving in response will not allow you to calmly gibberish after that, since the corpses no longer need it wassat
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 7 November 2017 00: 30 New
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        I put on the table 2x300 and remains in reserve with our Strategic Rocket Forces as much or maybe more. Who knows
  19. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 6 November 2017 17: 30 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    "With any series, this aircraft will not fall cheaper than $ 145 million" ///

    The Pentagon bought the last batch of 69 pieces from Lockheed at 85 million apiece.
    (including engine).

    Spare parts? That? Repair current and emergency counted? 145 is not the final figure. And quickly put them into operation. Our operators in Syria need combat experience in their destruction. drinks
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 6 November 2017 19: 05 New
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      Quote: Dzafdet
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "With any series, this aircraft will not fall cheaper than $ 145 million" ///

      The Pentagon bought the last batch of 69 pieces from Lockheed at 85 million apiece.
      (including engine).

      Spare parts? That? Repair current and emergency counted? 145 is not the final figure. And quickly put them into operation. Our operators in Syria need combat experience in their destruction. drinks

      Your operators in Syria are defending their bases, and the Israelis are not attacking these bases, I think there is such an agreement. If you really look at the possibilities on this theater, then Israel is a cut above all neighbors as well as the Russian air force. if there is an order they will destroy your bases, and you can’t resist it due to geographical and logistical reasons, in the summer your aircraft carrier showed the weakness of your Navy. The threat of nuclear weapons will not work either. Israel also has it.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 7 November 2017 05: 09 New
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        Oh, you still remind me of the “cool” French-naglitsy that “defeated” the Russian Empire on a front hundreds of kilometers wide fool
        Well, Izrail will fool and try to destroy our bases in Syria, the first have not yet proved that he will be able to (although thanks to the jackal of their tactics there is a chance). But then the question immediately becomes - and not to destroy Yzralit for this? And you won’t even have time to pop there - in 15 minutes the desert will be completely and “well-done”.
  20. Eflintuk
    Eflintuk 6 November 2017 18: 07 New
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    Well, at least now, over the Barents Sea, our Air Force will understand that it actually represents the f-35. And not according to these sofa tales about falling apart on the fly with half-fainting pilots in the cockpits.
  21. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 6 November 2017 20: 13 New
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    Quote: Semurg
    Quote: Dzafdet
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "With any series, this aircraft will not fall cheaper than $ 145 million" ///

    The Pentagon bought the last batch of 69 pieces from Lockheed at 85 million apiece.
    (including engine).

    Spare parts? That? Repair current and emergency counted? 145 is not the final figure. And quickly put them into operation. Our operators in Syria need combat experience in their destruction. drinks

    Your operators in Syria are defending their bases, and the Israelis are not attacking these bases, I think there is such an agreement. If you really look at the possibilities on this theater, then Israel is a cut above all neighbors as well as the Russian air force. if there is an order they will destroy your bases, and you can’t resist it due to geographical and logistical reasons, in the summer your aircraft carrier showed the weakness of your Navy. The threat of nuclear weapons will not work either. Israel also has it.

    What do you call an aircraft carrier? Is this the trough of the times of the USSR? We haven’t had them for a long time, they sold everything to China. We can resist while there are White swans and KR X-101 ... wassat
  22. Setrac
    Setrac 6 November 2017 22: 33 New
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    Quote: Viktor.12.71
    Already not in that where by force of will and a shovel they went to tanks.

    You still remember about "with sabers on tanks."
  23. Viktor.12.71
    Viktor.12.71 7 November 2017 09: 11 New
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    Setrac,
    Quote: Setrac
    Quote: Viktor.12.71
    These are the most massive types of weapons of the parties on the eve of the war ...

    And you are not confused by the fact that Soviet models are ten to fifteen years older?
    Quote: Viktor.12.71
    Germany did not have a 4-fold advantage against the USSR. The war lasts until one of the parties exhausts its industry and resources. This is the basics.

    Tell the French, or the Poles, these basics of yours are wrong, the war of attrition is only if you can’t achieve a decisive defeat of the enemy in battle. In addition, the Third Reich with satellites had more resources than the USSR.
    And it’s necessary to talk about Germany, Germany couldn’t have an advantage, because there wasn’t such a state at that time, there was the Third Reich with a population of 105 million people plus satellites, together they give almost double superiority in people.
    Quote: Viktor.12.71
    They didn’t serve in the army, it means that the soldier has no time to think, he does what the commanders yell at him.

    He served two years of military service in the army, the commanders give orders so that you know.
    Quote: Viktor.12.71
    With willpower, you need to go to the freestyle wrestling section, you need it there.

    In childhood, he was engaged in classical wrestling.

    Read, study, and maybe until you realize that the USSR had a tremendous advantage over the Wehrmacht. My opinion is that the USSR had the most powerful military equipment and industrial potential that exceeded everything that existed in the world then. The Poles lost technologically and lost to the Germans in a twofold quantity, the French having a powerful army which in number took 2rd place after the United States and the USSR was crushed to the nines in a month. The French had a three-fold superiority over the Wehrmacht, and lost. Tactical superiority and commanders were better in Germany.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 7 November 2017 18: 36 New
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      Quote: Viktor.12.71
      Read, study, and maybe until you realize that the USSR had a tremendous advantage over the Wehrmacht.

      These are your fantasies, there was no advantage, everything has been studied for a long time. Sound out the numbers by numbers.
      Quote: Viktor.12.71
      My opinion is that the USSR had the most powerful military equipment and industrial potential that exceeded everything that existed in the world then.

      But where did you get this? The USSR was neither the strongest nor the most industrialized.
      Quote: Viktor.12.71
      Tactical superiority and commanders were better in Germany.

      The tactical advantage and the commanders have nothing to do with it, these countries simply gave the Third Reich to strengthen it against the USSR, he himself could not have done it, as history has shown and uniting the lion's part of Europe The Third Reich still lost.