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Triple sabotage in the Crimea and 200 "Gradov" in Donetsk - this is only the beginning! When “an expression of concern” is no longer valid

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It was this autumn that most of the predictions of numerous military experts and political scientists made about the repeated complication of the global military-political situation by the end of 2017, were confirmed. The Middle East is no exception. At the end of October, the southeastern territories of the Syrian theater of war were fully covered by the active phase of the confrontation for reaching the frontier of the most important strategic center in the mainstream of the Euphrates - the city of Abu Kemal, where the coalition of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), The Special Operations Forces and the United States Marine Corps have been very successful offensive thanks to bribing the leaders of ISIL, and the units of the Syrian Arab Army under the command of General Al-Hassan Suheil (supported by e videoconferencing Russian and Iraqi militias "Hashid Al Shaab") are forced to use complex tactical developments and generally operate at full capacity.

Hopefully, the use of high precision weaponslaunched with diesel submarines and tactical aviation The Russian Aerospace Forces will help the Syrian army quickly begin to storm the last remaining bridgehead of the pseudo-caliphate, because on our side the main operational and strategic advantage is the location of Abu Kemal on the west bank of the Euphrates, which makes it possible to deploy heavy weapons, including basic military Tanks, self-propelled artillery and ARVs without the need to overcome the Euphrates. For the States and the Kurds, the situation here is much more complicated: to enter the city you need to storm the Euphrates, which will take additional hours of valuable time. Today we will return to the consideration of an equally important situation that is becoming threatening to the security of our state.


Operational and tactical situation on the outskirts of Abu Kemal


We are talking about several acts of sabotage and terrorism committed against Russian border guards in the area of ​​the Armyansk checkpoint in August 2016, as well as against power supply and gas supply centers of villages located on the southern coast of the Republic of Crimea in the vicinity of Alushta and Grape 31 in October 2017. In the first case, on the night of 7 in August 2016 of the year, during a short-term operation to detain the Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance unit breaking through to the territory of Crimea, as a result of fire contact, the border guard officer of the FSB of Russia Roman Kamenev and the airborne serviceman Semyon Sychev died. Moreover, a little later, on Monday night, another Ukrainian DRG attempted to enter the peninsula on the peninsula. This time her fire support was carried out using automatic cannons (AP) and large-caliber machine guns of armored vehicles of the border formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine located in the Kherson region. Is not this military aggression, which was necessary to stop by force? Even then, there was the possibility of an asymmetric response using self-propelled anti-tank missile systems "Chrysanthemum-S", the transfer of which to the Crimean anti-tank players were so good about our media in 2014. Why were the complexes not located near the border in such an unstable operational-tactical situation? After all, in the end it could lead to other tragic consequences. Nevertheless, we again “lost”, positioning ourselves as heralds of peaceful methods of conflict resolution.

Despite the fact that the attack was not carried out by ordinary nationalist militants from Azov or the Right Sector, who were in a state of drug intoxication, but by motivated militants trained by the Defense Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine, the only thing that was taken in response the increase in units of the Border Guard Service of the Federal Security Service of Russia, as well as a very mild statement by President Vladimir Putin that “at first glance, this is a stupid criminal act that is not capable of polo itelno affect the Crimean, and can also lead to loss of life, and is a very dangerous game. " The statement is very verified and thoughtful, but, first, a sequence of tragic incidents with the death of Russian servicemen at the hands of Ukrainian militants already takes place, and far from all the participants in the criminal action suffered responsibility for the attack.

In particular, only accomplices of the Ukrainian DRG, Yevgeniy Panov and Andrei Zakhtey, were detained, while the militants who caused the fatal wound to Roman Kamenvu were eliminated on the spot, and a group of Ukrainian security forces who deprived the life of our paratrooper Semyon Sychev, with impunity, fled to the territory of Kherson . And all these tragic events did not become a pretext for harsh retaliatory actions: only blind "concern" was expressed. And note that our Ukrainian "friends" broke into the Republic of Crimea far from empty-handed. Magnetic and contact mines, fuses, TNT and grenades were found in their backpacks, the use of which we are observing today. We didn’t even bother to complicate the border crossing procedure: for a trip to Russia, it’s enough just to present an internal document, while our citizens must present a foreign passport without fail. Is not it absurd?

It is also worth noting that the Russian-Ukrainian border in the Republic of Crimea is not equipped with specialized optical-electronic complexes, which allow the FSB border units to promptly notify the penetration of unknown persons from the Ukrainian territory. On the other hand, in November 2016 of the SBU were able to lightly detain two servicemen of the Russian army (Maxim Odintsov and Alexander Baranov) in the Crimea near the Dzhankoy checkpoint. No serious actions followed from the Russian side after that, which is why the Ukrainian Nazis drew even more “on feats”, and not in the border area of ​​the peninsula, but in its depth. Remembering history With the undermining of power lines in the Kherson region at night, November 22 2015, unknown Ukrainian forces quite successfully carried out a similar sabotage operation October October 31, but on the southern coast of the Republic of Crimea. Thus, as a result of a gas pipeline explosion in Zaprudny, a gas distribution station in Vinogradny and power transmission towers in 100 kW, more than 3 thousand people in Vinogradny, Maly Mayak, Utes and Pushkino remained without gas and electricity supply near the monument to the Crimean partisans. Another undermining of power lines was carried out near the Angarsk pass, - the Dobrovskaya valley in the Simferopol region was left without power supply. To date, nothing except the “Ukrainian trace” of the anti-terror unit of the FSB, the border service of the FSB of the Russian Federation and the Rosguard has been identified, despite the fact that the explosions were carried out alternately, in a short period of time, and within a radius of just 15 km from Alushta.

It is obvious that in all cases modern explosive devices were used, equipped with electronic time retarders with lithium-ion batteries. Such devices belong to the most low-intensity radio-emitting sources, and therefore their search is carried out exclusively by means such as: the remote-controlled unmanned system for detecting explosive devices “Dragonfly” (based on an average octacopter) with a non-linear search radio-frequency radio, a detector of explosive devices with electronic “stuffing” The Neva-ML, equipped with a parabolic radar detector S / H / X-bands, as well as a manual set of direction finding time retarders Anker-4Е.


Nonlinear portable radar detection of explosive devices "Neva-ML"


To search for explosive devices with different types of watch retarders by means of the above devices, it is necessary to spend from several hours to several weeks, depending on the complexity of the relief and the area of ​​the scanned territory. The likelihood of using radio-controlled explosive devices in Crimea is insignificant, since the mobile radio electronic intelligence complexes available to our special forces could easily detect a bearing on the command control device of an explosive device in the hands of saboteurs. It is already clear that the era of the assault of headless drug addicts from Ukrainian do-it-yourself workers has passed, and we are dealing with well-trained saboteurs of the “Square” intelligence services, who regularly update the experience of our overseas “colleagues”. As you can see, the overly lenient position of our state in relation to Ukrainian terrorist antics (this applies to both vague foreign policy rhetoric and the direct lack of adequate response at the operational-tactical level) is quite capable of leading to the continuation of subversive actions in the Republic of Crimea. At the same time, Kiev is not going to stop at that.

It is well known that by November 17 of 2017, in the second reading, the revised draft law No. XXUMX “On Donbass Reintegration” will be re-introduced to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, including a decent number of amendments, one of which is the recognition of Russia as “aggressor country”, and the creation and implementation of the mechanisms of the so-called "restoration of state sovereignty over the Crimea." All of us have long been accustomed to the marasmic and provocative actions of the new, illegitimate leadership of the “Square”, heroically and at the same time, in idiotically tolerating quite serious border fire contacts, ending for our citizens tragically, we observe the “Minsk format”, because of which in the hands of Kiev of the regime, Mariupol continued to remain, and Dontsk-Makeevka agglomeration was in the Bussols of the Ukrainian artillerymen, but this time we can be seriously shaken. And believe me, it will be far from “an expression of concern”! "Fighting off" will have all possible methods.

Operational and strategic picture of the Donbass theater of operations and on the Crimean border, Kiev, together with specialists from the Pentagon, "painted" about one and a half years ago. The number of barrel and rocket artillery units (D-20, D-30, 2А65 "Msta-B" howitzers, Gvozdika and Akatsiya SAU, Grad, MLNO 9K51, 9KXNNXX Uragan and 57KKHKHNKX MLRS XKHKHKHNKXKHKHKHNKXKHKHKHNKXKHKHNKXKHKHNKXKHKHNKXHKHNKXHKHNKXHKHNXX Grad, 9KhNXXHU Uragan and 58KHNXX Grad than 250 - 350 units, which is a bit like the situation with North Korea's artillery, and Seoul within its range. Many allegations can be heard that Kiev will not start military aggression against the Republic of Crimea under any pretext, since this will end in the complete defeat of the Ukrainian military formations and natsbat (including all the strongholds inside and the remaining weapons depots in the "Square") and the liberation of all southern and eastern regions from the control of the illegal Ukrainian authorities.

From the operational-tactical and technical point of view, attack and army aviation of the VKS (Su-30CM / M2, Su-34, Su-27CM and Ka-52) deployed at the air bases of the Southern Military District, when targeting aircraft from the strategic optical-electronic and radio intelligence Tu-214R, really just a few days is able to completely destroy most of the active artillery positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The fat point here will put divisions of operational-tactical missile systems "Iskander-M" and "Caliber", successfully used today against the IG in Syria. Also, with the help of operational-tactical ballistic missiles 9М723 and winged 9М728 Iskander-M complexes, as well as X-58 anti-radar missiles, very impressive air defense of “Square” based on more than XNUM will be “hacked”, cracked, more than NNUMX, based on more than XNUM, more than on the NUMNUMX, using more than 90NUM15MANUM. C-300PS, which will enable the use of attack aircraft to fight land forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and nationalist battalions on the approaches to the Crimea and the Donbass.

Despite the fact that the above outcome is recognized as Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Viktor Muzhenko, regularly voicing the alleged losses of the Ukrainian formations, estimated at tens of thousands of people, drugs, so Poroshenko with Turchinov, their “overseas masters” have already finally decided on the last destination of Ukraine in the Eastern European theater of operations as a springboard to maintain a long-term escalation environment on our western borders. We all clearly see that the economic sanctions of the West against our state have proved extremely ineffective. Idris Jazairi, UN Special Rapporteur on the negative impact of unilateral coercive measures on the enjoyment of human rights, noted the successful restructuring of the Russian economic system under all sanctions costs in order to adapt to the current situation. The system of import substitution, which, with a decent scientific and technical potential of the country, already today works well not in favor of Western European companies, works well.

Consequently, the West will try to "advance" the military-political destabilization simultaneously in all disputed regions, from their point of view, near our borders. As is known, Transdniestria, the Crimea with the Donbas, and even South Ossetia and Abkhazia are included here. But if, for example, in Georgia, the operational and strategic ground for re-burning the conflict is only at the preparatory stage, then everything is ready at the borders of the Crimea and at the line of contact on the LDNR for active hostilities. And the activity of the main American “peacemaker-contractor” - the special representative of the US State Department for Ukraine Kurt Walker, who is the author of numerous Russophobic statements, as well as the director of the McCain Institute in Arizona, plays a significant role. Recently, he has often visited Kyiv, and also appeals to the Ukrainian side with extremely unusual appeals.

In particular, October 27 2017, Kurt Volker arrived in Kiev with an unplanned visit. According to the official version, a high-ranking official of the US State Department “painted” in the capital “Square” to assess the internal situation against the background of unrest on ul. Grushevskogo. But is this a real expediency? Really, in Kiev, to the eyeballs filled with US intelligence officers (including the placement of the CIA branch in the main building of the Security Service of Ukraine) there are no verified and savvy informants who are capable of transmitting information to Washington with 100% accuracy. Of course, there are such persons; which means that an unplanned visit by Volcker was purely anti-Russian in nature, especially considering that he was made shortly after the statements on the situation in Donbas made by Vladimir Putin on the margins of the Valdai Forum, where the Russian leader finally expressed a firm position about the inadmissibility of a “breakthrough” »On the territory of the LDNR nationalist military groupings and the implementation of the“ Croatian scenario ”. Diametrically opposed to the statement by McCain's student (during 97 of the year, Volker held the position of lawyer in the team of J. McCain) about “Ukraine’s successes in developing a powerful anti-Russian position” turned this visit into a kind of diplomatic counterweight to Vladimir Putin’s statements.

This is only one of the plans of the United States diversification in loosening the situation on the contact line, the main purpose of which is to demonstrate the support of the Ukrainian side in the confrontation with the LDNR, and possibly the Russian Federation. Against this background, let's not forget that military aid for Kiev has already been put on stream: today it’s the Barret M82A3 large-caliber rifles and the AN / TPQ-36 “Firefinder” counter-battery radar of artillery reconnaissance, tomorrow any type of lethal weapons worth 47 million dollars . It is towards the latest configuration of the military-technical assistance package for Kiev that the US Department of Defense and the State Department are now inclined, as reported by the November 2008 edition of ABC News, citing the circle of US national security adviser Herbert McMaster.

As you have already understood, a very impressive amount of modern high-precision weapons can be purchased for 47 million dollars: from 280 to 320 anti-tank guided missiles FGM-148 "Javelin" (depending on the terms of the contract and cost), several dozen equally dangerous anti-tank missile systems FOGM equipped with MGM-157 rockets with a fiber-optic control system and a television GOS in the amount of several hundred rockets, as well as several thousand mortar and artillery corrected projectiles with 120 caliber mm and PERM) and 155 mm (XM-982 «Excalibur»). For the use of the latter can be purchased several ACS "Paladin" or "Krab". Recall that developed three options for providing military assistance to Kiev, two of which have not been disclosed.

The last word in the implementation of a ready-made “aid package”, naturally, remains signed by Donald Trump, who will not be hard to put pressure on in Russophobic “hawks” using media tools. Everyone knows that the situation of the American president today is extremely precarious, and will become even more precarious if Abu Kemal is taken under control by the forces of the Syrian Arab Army. In this case, the question of the need for a successful military solution to the conflict in the Donbas will arise for the Trump administration even more acutely, otherwise the American leader will experience a grand political failure with the likely loss of a “rudder”.

Immediately before disclosing information about the readiness to provide Kiev with a 45 million-dollar military aid package, the Pentagon, using the main protagonist of the “Ukrainian multi-move” Kurt Walker, is trying to resort to the vigilance tactics of Moscow, Donetsk and Luhansk. Suddenly unbelievable appeals began to burst from the mouth of Volcker. So, November 3 2017, Volker suggested Ukraine not to submit to the UN a competing draft resolution on the configuration of the peacekeeping mission in Donbass, but try to work out an even more “effective” concept of the peacekeeping mission within the Russian resolution, and then try to coordinate it with Moscow. It sounds extremely strange and unexpected, as well as extremely illogical for the Russophobic policy of Washington, especially against the background of the upcoming deliveries of "independent" lethal weapons in anticipation of a large-scale escalation in the Donbass theater. It is obvious that behind all this, in addition to putting down vigilance, lies some very unpleasant trick, which we will learn about in the near future.

In particular, it is very likely that the Donbass is just a step away from a major military provocation, which Washington and Brussels will model to accuse Moscow of aggravating the contact line and unanimously blocking the Russian draft resolution within the UNSC. And, as you have already managed to guess, this provocation must be carried out without delay, since the maximal momentum of the escalating “impeller” at the Donbas military theater should gain 2018 by March, when all internal and external enemies of Russia will raise their heads in order complete exhaustion and further "softening" of power structures and the ideological basis of the "Russian World".

The main result, in the plans of the US and European anti-Russian "hawks", is to bring Moscow to the inability to respond effectively to external operational-strategic threats against the background of general chaos within the state and in its immediate vicinity. Here, both the Crimea and Transnistrian Transnistrian Transnistria “will be pulled along the chain. “Expression of concern” in the absence of immediate countermeasures in this case will not pass. Now let's take a look at the very important details of preparing Kiev for a new stage of the conflict in the Donbas with the previous provocation. These details are chronologically and conceptually perfectly combined with the updated criminal draft law “On the Reintegration of Donbass”, which is being prepared for adoption in the second reading, as well as with the above described transfer of lethal weapons to the junta.

So, recently in the accounts of numerous pro-government Ukrainian politicians you can find information about the armored and artillery units of the Land Forces of Russia, allegedly arriving on the territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics, being prepared from a large-scale offensive operation. Pavel Zhebrivsky, chairman of the occupation sharashka administration of the former Donetsk region, said aloud the same fake information, stating that “the battalion-tactical groups of the SV of Russia are deployed in Donetsk and Snezhny.” Today, this is absolutely not true, but with the current dynamics of aggravation preserved, this is exactly what will happen, because the very tragic and bloody “Croatian scenario” is as close as ever.


This is the tactical map of the Sunday work of artillery of the Ukrainian militants in residential areas of Donetsk. In the strongest artillery strike in the last months of 9, a huge number of artillery and rocket artillery points of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were deployed, both in the Skilled and Avdiivka areas (Grady, Acacia, and D-30), and in the vicinity of Lastochkino (Hyacinths, "Msta-B", etc.). It is noteworthy that the new "introductory" stage of escalation began immediately after the recent appeal to the junta-artillery formations


According to the latest information, coming on Sunday evening 5 November from the Donetsk operational direction of the DPR (North-Western Front of Novorossia in its present territories), Donetsk-Makeevka agglomeration was subjected to a powerful massive artillery strike from the Ukrainian MLRS 9K51 “Grad”, which were armed with a battalion tactical groups (OTGR) 25-th separate Dnepropetrovsk airborne brigade. In total, 120 NURSs were released: 80 unguided missiles (2 launchers) for the Yakovlevka locality and 40 (one BM) - for the WCT. Subsequently, the intensity of the shelling continued to increase, and the Pitmen, citing data from the Ministry of Defense of the DPR, reported on the arrival of the shells of ACS Giatsint in the Putilovka area. Meanwhile, the counter-battery fire from the artillery batteries of the People’s Militia of the DPR was opened almost in 40 minutes due to their diversion from the line of contact. At the time of the end of our work, the following also came under fire: Makeevka, Zhabichevo, Vesele, the territory of the A.A. Zasyadko, as well as JSC "Tochmash".

Whether the purpose of this firing was reconnaissance of the positions of the NM gunners of the DPR before a more prolonged artillery preparation, or whether the fire from the Gradov was made to provoke the militia to "otvetku" - is still unknown. But again the question arises: is it not time to end up with the “Minskami” and give a quiet life to the entire population of the NPT who attended the referendum ?! The situation again moves to a critical point. The decision of the military leadership of the LDNR and Russia should be made as soon as possible, as Poroshenko’s recent appeal to the Missile Forces and Artillery units “to be ready to move to the line of contact and join the battle at any moment” is an unequivocal hint to the final failure of the Russian peace settlement initiative and the transition to a new “hot” and merciless stage of confrontation.

Information sources:
https://nahnews.org/998152-doneck-v-ogne-ukrokarateli-vedut-massirovannyi-obstrel-kievskogo-raion-pogibli-deti
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1947046/
https://newss.mirtesen.ru/blog/43247608403/Rossiyskih-pogranichnikov-atakovali-boeviki-s-territorii-Ukrayin
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1947755/
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 7 November 2017 06: 53
    28
    What can I say .. The Minsk agreement in action. Maybe it’s enough to play "political chess", and take and fuck the "partner" with this board?
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 7 November 2017 10: 34
      +4
      Zakharchenko said that the DPR destroyed two art. batteries and APU and three dugouts. It seems that while Surkov marked the beginning of the era of serfdom in Russia. what
      1. Krasniy_lis
        Krasniy_lis 7 November 2017 12: 45
        +3
        Yes, destroyed. Vidosiki of how it burned at night on the Ukrainian side, walk on the network. That's just the people of one FIG is not satisfied. And very. So, we can say that the dill provocation was a success.
    2. boboss
      boboss 7 November 2017 10: 58
      +3
      No .... I have to wait 10 years ....
    3. maxS
      maxS 10 November 2017 07: 18
      0
      Before the election, you can’t
    4. Dr. FuManchu
      Dr. FuManchu 12 November 2017 20: 59
      +1
      So fucking, pick up your ass from the couch, drive to the boutiques, buy a slide, grinders, knee pads, tomfoot, tactical glasses, get on the bus to Donetsk-Lugansk, and there, renounce the citizenship of the Russian Federation in exchange for an LDN passport and enter the local army and dolby-dolby-dolby at least Ukrainians, at least your fart by black dope. And how can you yell at the internet and call to get it - is it possible for you, but let the Russian fools come to Russia for funerals? Maybe it’s easier to gather you Ukrainians who have left for permanent residence from LDNR in Russia to return to LDNR to defend their homeland? So you’ll beat your land and protect YOURS from Ukrainians, at the same time remember how the Russian world was betrayed at the referendum by Kuchma.
      Regarding shelling, shelling of cities with artillery is a terrorist attack, Ukrainians will continue to terrorize the inhabitants of Donbass until each terrorist act of LDNR begins to respond with a terrorist attack on the territory of Ukraine, and terrorist attacks can be carried out without casualties among the civilian population - they fired at Grad Donetsk? Fill in one night with 2-3 supports through one on ALL power lines leading to Kiev, you don’t even need explosives, just one gas grinder for DRG — cut the bolts from the foundation and cut the carriers and they themselves fall in, they don’t understand and fire again they have coal storages at their thermal power plants and so every time Ukrainians will want war until the war comes to their every house - fill the power lines there will be nothing to raise their Ukrainians for they put them in time helicopters until they find something to let Kiev sit without light, water supply, sewage, Internet, telephone and cellular communications and under night looting, I think by the time the light comes on those who want to return Crimea and Donbass to their composition will greatly decrease
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 November 2017 07: 01
    36
    And all these tragic events did not become a reason for harsh retaliatory actions: only blind “concern” was expressed

    This (inaction) is not only annoying, but begins to enrage. For the lives of our troops, constant "wass, wass" with the Ukrainians and whisperings with the Americans. I don’t know how and what “cunningly” was planned at the top, but so far our people are dying, and from the Ukrainian side slander and insults do not stop pouring.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 7 November 2017 07: 21
      32
      I don’t know how and what “cunningly” was planned at the top, but so far our people are dying, and from the Ukrainian side slander and insults do not stop pouring.


      The tops think in other categories ... the life of an individual person means little to them ... if their children were among the dead soldiers, the reaction would probably be different ...
      and so we endlessly observe the concerns and bewilders of the KREMLIN honestly looking stupid after the sabotage and terrorist attacks of the Kiev regime.

      I believe that now we need to work to neutralize the American henchmen ... the most rabid Russophobes ... and they must be destroyed by the hands of the same Russophobes ... the more they eat each other, the better for us and RUSSIA.
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 7 November 2017 07: 58
        15
        and so we endlessly observe the concerns and bewilders of the KREMLIN honestly looking stupid after the sabotage and terrorist attacks of the Kiev regime.

        Exactly, it feels like he is deeply in the drum. Well, you just have to somehow react, and here they express their preoccupied concerns for the hundredth time.
        1. The black
          The black 7 November 2017 09: 32
          22
          It is clear that ukro-Bandera understand only power! And it's time to stop paying attention to some kind of world community - there isn’t one! There are geyropeyskie zombie earhooks and they are not a decree for us, and Russia will always be to blame for everything, so it’s not a spin, but we must adequately respond to any provocations of the ukrovermaht.
          1. uskrabut
            uskrabut 7 November 2017 11: 19
            +9
            All this ukrobanderovsky scum still have to be destroyed, it’s better before
        2. The comment was deleted.
      2. St Petrov
        St Petrov 7 November 2017 12: 54
        +4
        I believe that now we need to work to neutralize the American proteges ...


        at the same time, mobilize the entire VO forum and the whole country. there are so many appeals - it's time.

        Or do the callers think to confine themselves to the operation of the sun? Well, I do not. Like kaklov will have mobilization, groans on the forum about the war and so on.

        There it is necessary to keep millions of territories under control. Either the Caucasus is exposed, or mobilization
        1. JonnyT
          JonnyT 8 November 2017 16: 21
          0
          Kill kakla - please mom
    2. bandabas
      bandabas 7 November 2017 11: 05
      +4
      Activation will occur only before the election. And then, again, will begin to "worry".
    3. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 7 November 2017 11: 25
      11
      Quote: rotmistr60
      This (inaction) is not only annoying, but begins to enrage.

      It is clear that by "inaction" you mean exactly the position of the leadership of the Russian Federation ...
      For my part, I’ll note that this: “I won’t give it to others (DNI and LC),” in the form of “Minsk” and for the Donbass it costs an excessively high price.

      And this is without taking into account the "image" and, what is most sad, geopolitical losses for the Russian state.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 7 November 2017 12: 58
        +1
        And this is without taking into account the "image" and, what is most sad, geopolitical losses for the Russian state.


        when the losses will be in the form of zinc is another matter. But a victorious war and raking later

        I want Mykola to cook in his juice. I don’t want to tell him with a gun that he’s finished and that it’s time to live differently. I think that let it come to itself. But if it doesn’t, it’s good. Let him live in Galicia. But gun mounts must be remotely destroyed yes.
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 7 November 2017 13: 35
          +8
          And this is without taking into account the "image" and, what is most sad, geopolitical losses for the Russian state.


          Quote: c-Petrov

          I want Mykola to cook in his juice. I don’t want to tell him with a gun that he’s finished and that it’s time to live differently. I think that let it come to itself. But if it doesn’t, it’s good. Let him live in Galicia. But gun mounts must be remotely destroyed yes.

          To cook, you need to at least isolate it by driving it into a pressure cooker.
    4. Sirocco
      Sirocco 7 November 2017 17: 35
      +3
      Are you sure of the inaction of our special services? Do you really think that this coven went unpunished? Do you really think that the latest events in Ukraine happened on their own, these are two RAV depots that exploded themselves?))))) Did Carlson process them? Yes, and the recent extermination of Ukrainian radicals, I think the same is not a random showdown inside Ukraine, then I think the time has directed the course in the right direction.)))))
      1. Jack_jr
        Jack_jr 7 November 2017 19: 10
        +3
        Do you think these are our specialists? It is much more likely that the Ukrainians themselves burned the ammunition depots to hide the waste. What radicals were soaked? Mosya or Osmaev? It looks like our stupidly dirty hands are not hunting about it r ... but.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 8 November 2017 07: 36
          0
          Well, do you believe what they just wrote about?))) Who told you that it was ours? Read carefully, the main thing is to push who you need. Now, about waste, this fable would have passed before the 14th year, but not now, Ukraine does not hide the fact that it spoils both weapons and BP.
    5. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 8 November 2017 07: 25
      +1
      What can these brainless people think of? Only as his skin and loot away from under the blow. They all stayed, starting with the Guarantor!
    6. Bosch
      Bosch 11 November 2017 15: 13
      +2
      You reason like that, because your children are not US citizens, your wife and mother-in-law do not live in Nice, you do not have a castle in Scotland. And they have it all, and the Americans hold their eggs tight, so they express bewilderment and concern, and we are shown Kovtun and Trukhan on TV.
    7. Dr. FuManchu
      Dr. FuManchu 12 November 2017 21: 13
      0
      1-In 1914, crowds of joyful assholes ran around the Russian Empire and rejoiced at the beginning of the 1st MV, the tsar’s rating, urapatriotism and the unity of the people went wild, but after less than 3 years the tsar was thrown off and they began to shoot each other. This is so a history lesson if you forgot it.
      2-Direct War of the Russian Federation - Ukraine is the greatest dream of the State Department,
      a) the Russians will again have to kill the Russians themselves
      b) the Russians will again have to restore what they themselves will break
      c) For several decades, the US Department of State will have an endless resource, through an unfinished whitewash, for ANY anti-Russian activity, from terrorist attacks at nuclear power plants, to banal executions, massacres on peaceful nights.
      3-The world is on the verge of global change, the Colossus of Rhodes is already swinging in full swing, isolationism in the United States is growing stronger every day — the tasks of the Russian Federation to go through the next 10-15 years without getting into global trouble — this is what Putin’s policy is based on and he should strictly
      4-Russia DOES NOT have ANYTHING and NOTHING, including you and the population of Donbass, who didn’t remember the “Russian world” when it joyfully put a daw in the 1991 Kravchuk referendum for an independent Ukraine, so don’t want to-tear Ukrainians here 7 Yes, no question — raise your ass and ride as a volunteer in the Donbass
  3. Sergey-svs
    Sergey-svs 7 November 2017 07: 02
    15
    ... Isn’t it time to end with “Minsk” and give a quiet life to all the people of the DPR who have attended the referendum ?! The situation is again moving to a critical point. It is necessary to make a decision to the military leadership of LDNR and Russia as soon as possible ...

    On the outskirts - there’s no one to negotiate with on “Minsk”, the authorities there are all svidomye ........, as Lavrov said: DB! fool
    1. LeftPers
      LeftPers 7 November 2017 09: 44
      10
      Yes, peering at the "spiritualized faces" of the chiefs of Durkain and their overseas owners, you understand that you can’t talk about ordinary ordinary Svidomites.
  4. EvilLion
    EvilLion 7 November 2017 08: 38
    +5
    After the "actions" you will be responsible for ukroterritory with all its psychopaths? I don’t know how else to provoke Russia to a big won.
    1. Krasnyiy komissar
      Krasnyiy komissar 7 November 2017 08: 58
      15
      It's time to learn from the American experience with the natives. The American soldier did not step on the territory of North Vietnam, but they bombed him so that they still disentangle the consequences of that war. Hanoi was literally wiped off the face of the Earth by carpet bombing, which lasted for days. That's how it is necessary to smash the enemy, and not tear a vest on yourself and beat in the chest. Costs - millions of high-explosive bombs of 2MB times and hundreds of thousands of tons of kerosene, losses - a couple of dozen B-52 crews in almost ten years, the result - hundreds of thousands of people and almost the entire infrastructure of cities were destroyed.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 7 November 2017 10: 10
        +9
        And what? Won the Vietnamese?
        1. Krasnyiy komissar
          Krasnyiy komissar 7 November 2017 10: 49
          +7
          Relate the losses and see. The same applies to our campaign in Afghanistan. If the goal had been set - cleansing the territory, then it would have been fulfilled both there and there.
      2. Antares
        Antares 7 November 2017 11: 29
        +5
        Quote: Krasnyiy komissar
        It's time to learn from the American experience with the natives.

        you need to be the United States. Much is said about them.
        Americans always find the only right solution. After everyone else has tried.
        An attempt to act like them and even in the center of Europe. I do not think that all this will benefit the Russian Federation
        1. Krasnyiy komissar
          Krasnyiy komissar 7 November 2017 11: 38
          +8
          Who cares who to blame and where? Only the end result is important - the destruction of hostile regimes and their supporters by ANY means. No man - no problem! The technique of this thousand years, everyone has resorted to it, including RI and the USSR.
      3. medvedron
        medvedron 7 November 2017 14: 09
        +9
        Although you have the flag of New Russia, you have the feeling that you have never been to Donbass. You even imagine that some people from the DPR still go to the occupied territories to work, and there are many relatives living there. And you offer carpet bombing. Are you out of your mind?
      4. Mairos
        Mairos 7 November 2017 15: 22
        10
        The loss of US aircraft over North Vietnam (1964-1973)

        Douglas A-1 Skyrader

        - Air Force: 191 aircraft in 1964 — 1972
        - Navy: 69 aircraft in 1964 — 1968 years
        - Total: 260 aircraft

        Douglas A-4 Skyhawk

        - Navy: 282 aircraft in 1964 — 1972 years
        - KMP: 91 plane
        - Total: 373 aircraft

        Grumman A-6 "Intruder"

        - Navy: 62 aircraft in 1965 — 1973 years
        - ILC: 25 aircraft
        - Total: 87 aircraft

        LTV A-7 Corsair II

        - Air Force: 6 aircraft in 1972 year
        - Navy: 100 aircraft in 1967 — 1973 years
        - Total: 106 aircraft

        Douglas A-26 Invader

        - Air Force: 22 aircraft in 1962 — 1969 years

        Cessna A-37 Dragonfly

        - Air Force: 22 aircraft in 1967 — 1972 years

        Douglas AC-47 Spooky

        - Air Force: 19 aircraft in 1965 — 1969 years

        Fairchild AC-119 Shadow / Stinger

        - Air Force: 6 aircraft

        Lockheed AC-130 Spectrum

        - Air Force: 6 aircraft

        Boeing B-52 Stratofortress

        - Air Force: 48 aircraft in 1965 — 1973 years

        Martin B-57 Canberra [1]

        - Air Force: 56 aircraft in 1964 — 1970 years

        Douglas B-66 Destroyer

        - Air Force: 14 aircraft in 1965 — 1972 years

        Lockheed C-5 Galaxy

        - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1975 year (non-combat loss)

        De Haviland C-7 Caribou

        - Air Force: 20 aircraft [2]

        Douglas C-47 (C-117) Skytrain

        - Air Force: 21 aircraft in 1961 — 1973
        - Navy: 1 aircraft
        - ILC: 2 aircraft
        - Total: 24 aircraft

        Fairchild C-123 Provider

        - Air Force: 53 aircraft in 1962 — 1971 years

        Lockheed C-130 Hercules

        - Air Force: 55 aircraft in 1965 — 1972 years
        - ILC: 4 aircraft

        Lockheed C-141 "Starlifter"

        - Air Force: 2 aircraft in 1967 year

        Lockheed E-2 Hokai

        - Navy: 2 aircraft in 1970 — 1971 years (non-combat losses)

        Grumman EA-6 Proler

        - Navy:?
        - ILC: 2 aircraft
        - Total: ?

        Lockheed EC-121 Warning Star

        - Air Force: 2 aircraft
        - Navy:?
        - Total: ?

        Douglas EF-10 Skyline

        - ILC: 5 aircraft

        McDonnell-Douglas F-4 Phantom II

        - Air Force: 658 aircraft in 1965 — 1973 years
        - Navy: 138 aircraft in 1964 — 1973 years
        - ILC: 99 aircraft
        - Total: 895

        Northrop F-5A Freedom Fighter

        - Air Force: 9 aircraft in 1965 — 1967 years

        Vout F-8 Cruzader

        - Navy: 147 aircraft in 1964 — 1972 years
        - ILC: 22 aircraft
        - Total: 169 aircraft

        North American F-100 Super Saber

        - Air Force: 243 aircraft in 1964 — 1971 years

        Convair F-102 "Delta Dagger"

        - Air Force: 14 aircraft in 1965 — 1967 years

        Lockheed F-104 Starfighter

        - Air Force: 14 aircraft in 1965 — 1967 years

        Ripablik F-105 Thunderchief

        - Air Force: 382 aircraft in 1964 — 1972 years

        General Dynamics F-111 [3]

        - Air Force: 11 aircraft in 1968 — 1973 years

        Grumman HU-16 Albatross

        - Air Force: 4 aircraft in 1965 — 1966 years

        Boeing KB-50 Superfortress

        - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1964 year

        Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker

        - Air Force: 3 aircraft in 1968 — 1969 years [4]

        Cessna O-1 Bird Dog

        - Air Force: 172 aircraft in 1963 — 1972 years
        - ILC: 7 aircraft
        - Total: 179 aircraft

        Cessna O-2 Skymaster

        - Air Force: 104 aircraft in 1967 — 1972 years

        North American OV-10 Bronco

        - Air Force: 63 aircraft in 1968 — 1973 years
        - Navy: 7 aircraft
        - ILC: 10 aircraft
        - Total: 80 aircraft

        North American RA-5C Vigilent

        - Navy: 27 aircraft in 1965 — 1972 years

        Lockheed RF-101C Voodoo

        - Air Force: 39 aircraft in 1964 — 1968 years

        Lockheed SR-71 [5]

        - Air Force: 2 aircraft in 1970 — 1972 years (both losses are non-combat)

        North American T-28 Trojan

        - Air Force: 23 aircraft in 1962 — 1968 years

        Lockheed U-2 "Dragon Lady"

        - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1966 year (non-combat loss)

        Cessna U-3B

        - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1968 year

        De Haviland U-6 Beaver

        - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1966 year

        Helio U-10 Super Courier

        - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1969 year

        Total: 3374 aircraft.

        In addition, 578 unmanned aircraft were lost.
        1. Mairos
          Mairos 7 November 2017 15: 25
          +6
          As for helicopters, here the Americans lost more than 5 thousand units - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/281086/poteri-ssha-vo-vetnam
          e-po-godam
  5. Lganhi
    Lganhi 7 November 2017 09: 14
    +9
    I don’t understand these nonsense with the Nazis. We must hit them so that the debris only flew away from them, and the Bendera survivors were afraid to even look at the border with the Russian Federation and LDNR.
    1. medvedron
      medvedron 7 November 2017 14: 12
      +4
      It was necessary to beat in September 2014. as a last resort in February 2015. when there was a real opportunity with the least losses among the civilian population to win. And now it will be such a meat grinder that it is scary to imagine.
      1. sgrabik
        sgrabik 7 November 2017 17: 09
        +3
        But letting them get away with it and becoming an ostrich poser is even a worse option than an operation to force peace in the event of a large-scale offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on LDNR.
        1. medvedron
          medvedron 7 November 2017 22: 33
          +1
          And no one suggests letting anyone get away with it, but carpet bombing is not needed either.
    2. maxS
      maxS 10 November 2017 07: 17
      0
      But who cares about the Nazis. If the Nazis spoke on their own, they would have been cleared back in 2015
  6. Nonna
    Nonna 7 November 2017 09: 19
    28
    Our "slave in the galleys" is high time to prepare a successor. Its liberal-oligarchic regime is systematically destroying the Russian people (read the Russian spring). Peskov’s mustache clearly expressed the Kremlin’s attitude towards October, and Putin’s cry against the wall of sorrow clearly indicated that he didn’t give up his (liberal compradors).
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 7 November 2017 10: 20
      +2
      - Name, sister! Name!"
      Usually the answer to this question instantly determines the level of competence of the dissatisfied. Well, along the way, age and level of intellectual development.
      And so is the name! What is the name of the successor!
      1. Nonna
        Nonna 7 November 2017 11: 32
        +8
        Local. Your inferiority lies in the fact that you are trying to troll a person who expresses his thoughts. What about your own? Or do you have only one gyrus and that between the fifth point?
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 7 November 2017 17: 35
          +2
          Local. Your inferiority lies in the fact that you are trying to troll a person who expresses his thoughts. What about your own? Or do you have only one gyrus and that between the fifth point?


          I myself am not Local of course, but I would like to know

          Our "slave in the galleys" is high time to prepare a successor. Its liberal-oligarchic regime is systematically destroying the Russian people (read the Russian spring). Peskov’s mustache clearly expressed the Kremlin’s attitude towards October, and Putin’s cry against the wall of sorrow clearly indicated that he didn’t give up his (liberal compradors).


          where exactly in your mattress is your thought? As for me, this is a reprint of the text of the average Ganapolsky. Well, or what other - such clowns such a complete wa - the Internet, and the ru segment is also enough.

          In general, your nothing is visible. About inferiority so the question is open. Which of the two of you is flawed. The man asked a question - in the end I heard that he was flawed. This is an indicator
      2. Jack_jr
        Jack_jr 7 November 2017 19: 13
        0
        and you seem to have been calling Putin for president for 20 years.
    2. astankard
      astankard 7 November 2017 10: 49
      +2
      If the “slave in the galleys” prepares for himself the “slave in the galleys”, then what will he do, reasoning logically? Naturally row further.
      You have some kind of confusion in your head.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 7 November 2017 11: 48
        0
        Putin has the only successor - Medvedev. This is a historical fact and tradition. And there’s nothing to rack your brains on. bully
        1. Burbon
          Burbon 7 November 2017 14: 55
          +4
          Quote: siberalt
          Putin has the only successor - Medvedev

          if it is a fact belay then I’ll go vote for the horse ..... just not an iPhone
        2. astankard
          astankard 9 November 2017 11: 44
          +1
          Medvedev was "good" at the "middle" stage - they put Fool on the throne, chatting with his legs and tongue - he doesn’t fit anywhere - the caravan goes on.
          Now we need forceful solutions in both foreign and domestic politics - the empty-headed can freely join the candidates from whores, fools, liberal fidgets and half-wits. He has a place there.
      2. Andkor1962
        Andkor1962 7 November 2017 13: 43
        +5
        That's just Dimon is not necessary. God forbid !!!!!!!!
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 7 November 2017 13: 58
          +4
          Quote: Andkor1962
          That's just Dimon is not necessary. God forbid !!!!!!!!

    3. St Petrov
      St Petrov 7 November 2017 13: 15
      +5
      Our "slave in the galleys" is high time to prepare a successor. Its liberal-oligarchic regime is systematically destroying the Russian people (read the Russian spring)


      if there was a regime, you would go to the circus to learn new professions beyond the Urals after these lines

      I often read comments here and I want to call a doctor - so that he makes diagnoses and writes out vouchers to the labor paradise for the desperate

      for a long time the oligarchs cannot destroy you - apparently a tough nut, you keep the defense in the dugout and partisan yes? Are you not afraid to write about “cutting” (wow) - apparently you have steel eggs. You are almost like a revolutionary. Only instead of an armored car - forum
      1. Nonna
        Nonna 7 November 2017 14: 13
        13
        Petrov. Poorly learned biology. In women, there are no eggs, but only ovaries. You may not read the comments at all. Your organization is too thin. And if you are not a doctor, but make diagnoses in absentia for everyone, then you have delusions of grandeur of the patient of ward No. 6.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 7 November 2017 14: 13
          0
          Petrov. Poorly learned biology. In women, there are no eggs, but only ovaries. You may not read the comments at all. Your organization is too thin. And if you are not a doctor, and make diagnoses in absentia for everyone, then you have the delusions of grandeur of patient No. 6.


          Well then everything is clear. go mobilize yourself and bring order to ukroin. female fighter with olegarchs and ukrovermaht

          And read the text carefully

          I want to call a doctor - so that he makes the diagnoses and writes out permits to the labor paradise for the mentally ill


          I didn’t give you a diagnosis. I do not have competence in this matter.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 November 2017 14: 42
      +8
      The Yeltsin Memorial, the weeping wall, and not Russia, but Israel.
    5. Sergey2068
      Sergey2068 8 November 2017 01: 57
      +5
      Our slave does not have a normal successor. But is he “normal”? He cries for the repressed and has nothing to celebrate on the 100th anniversary of the Revolution. He has best friends - Chubais, Gref, Kudrin, Nabiulina and Sobchak. Great company for the leader of the Russian Federation. While these people are in power, Russia has big problems. We need prototypes of Lenin and Stalin. Is there really no such people in Russia?
  7. Valmih70
    Valmih70 7 November 2017 10: 28
    +8
    As the famous character said: "Every crime has a last name, first name and patronymic." All decisions are made by specific people, not the mythical "state." Therefore, the "dog buried", responsible for a specific decision must be sought among specific people. After that, a lot falls into place. The author is well done, he puts forward good thoughts, although in many ways somewhat theorized. "It was smooth on paper." For example, with regards to the placement along the borders and response launches of "Chrysanthemums." Donbass TVD is a rather free interpretation, because officially there is no war and there is no corresponding directive who needs it. Artillery does not deliver massive strikes, but can only participate in a massive fire strike to form a level, at least the “front”. Thanks to the author for attention to my previous comment.
  8. Brave Schweik-2
    Brave Schweik-2 7 November 2017 10: 30
    0
    And where are the Voroshilov Arrows hidden, fixing the coordinates of the points of departure of the mines, missiles for an answer?
    1. Krasniy_lis
      Krasniy_lis 7 November 2017 12: 55
      +1
      Quote: Bravy Schweik-2
      hidden "Voroshilov arrows"

      if we are talking about an answer according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then there are a large part of the population there. Or do you think we do not know about all the movements of dill? Ask the Mage where he gets the information "from the other side." And if we are talking about a "response to the BCH", then you inattentively read the article. They use anti-mine radars. Yes, and are not usually the goal of the position of our art.
  9. Valmih70
    Valmih70 7 November 2017 10: 32
    +8
    A tough answer is needed because the victim of a small number of lives at an early stage saves a large one at a later stage. The question is again about the decision maker
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 7 November 2017 10: 48
      +3
      Quote: Valmih70
      The question is again about the decision maker

      And we know this person, under it the whole hired country is digging, and her - the hired country in the VO tape is already a good half - the information war in action.
    2. uskrabut
      uskrabut 7 November 2017 11: 27
      +5
      I agree that beheading Bandera is the very thing, they will have to be blamed for any reason, this cannot be left without punishment as a warning to posterity. catch and hang!
  10. Santor
    Santor 7 November 2017 10: 50
    +5
    I read the beginning and then did not ...

    Angry panegerics based on couch rumors and what the media printed? You, authors, have the impression that you are a specialist in blowing a putinsil ....

    There was also a group that landed from motorboats in the area of ​​Razdolny, which was destroyed from the Mi-24 helicopter ... At the same time, a special operation was carried out by the territories to detain several sleeping groups. No tanks and armored personnel carriers were fired or supported, let’s leave it to the conscience of the journalism. Those who left on the boat - went on target between Ivanovka and Stroganovka. An APC went ashore there - they hooked a boat and pulled ashore, because there 50 meters to the shore are solid dirt ... Shoot? Take a look at the map - there are several kilometers !!!!! But what cards for journalism - the main thing to emboss terrible and unusual. And no one bothers why, together with an FSB officer, an airborne soldier died? There was a special operation ... Where the Airborne Division provided operational support.

    My Donetsk relatives grunted at the hail of hail - somewhere it rumbled a bit, we got used to it ... On Facebook every day Donetsk is wiped off the face of the earth ... Basurin has such a job ...

    How many wounded and killed Donetsk residents after this massive shelling of residential areas?
    1. Krasniy_lis
      Krasniy_lis 7 November 2017 12: 59
      +2
      Quote: Santor
      Donetsk wounded and killed after this massive shelling

      11 people. And yet, yes, it was the strongest shelling in 8-9 months.
  11. Santor
    Santor 7 November 2017 10: 52
    +4
    Quote: Nonna
    Our "slave in the galleys" is high time to prepare a successor. Its liberal-oligarchic regime is systematically destroying the Russian people (read the Russian spring). Peskov’s mustache clearly expressed the Kremlin’s attitude towards October, and Putin’s cry against the wall of sorrow clearly indicated that he didn’t give up his (liberal compradors).

    For the sake of such posts, such articles are riveted ....
    1. Nonna
      Nonna 7 November 2017 11: 27
      +6
      Santor. "That's for the sake of such posts and such articles are riveted ...."

      And you discuss the article, and not other people's thoughts. Or is there a complete vacuum in my head?
    2. EVIL
      EVIL 7 November 2017 12: 21
      +5
      Hello.
      I note that the site generally began to issue articles to put it mildly - strange. Explicitly ordered and narrow-minded. What a pity.
      1. Romey
        Romey 7 November 2017 15: 05
        +3
        Well, you have to issue a close and non-custom article. It explains to the people the whole lack of alternative partnerships with Kiev, as a necessary condition for partnerships with our Western friends who have money that Minsk brought the Ukrainians of Donbass and New Russia as a whole, peace and hope for some kind of federalization, that you can’t distract forces and funds for "stupid Ukrainians" from a truly sacred-fastened Syria, etc. However, do not bother: Shapiro does it much better and more intelligibly. Yes, and we still have a whole wagon to extend the path of "getting off my knees" - until February. So take your time.
  12. avia12005
    avia12005 7 November 2017 10: 53
    +9
    It seems that the Kremlin decided to wait until the Khokhlopiteki go on the offensive first. And then both the Russian Federation and the Lao PDR will be "victims of aggression." And they will be able to apply the UN Charter, trying to appear in the eyes of the world community as such. But the plan is that it is in Africa as well: how many people in the Donbas and in general in the region of the Russian-Ukrainian border will perish. Does this plan take into account? And in general, everything is very reminiscent of 41 with his "not to give in to provocations" ...
  13. Kurochkin
    Kurochkin 7 November 2017 10: 57
    0
    Russia Super Power No. 1 in the WORLD !!!!
  14. Sverdlov
    Sverdlov 7 November 2017 11: 06
    +5
    Quote: Mestny
    - Name, sister! Name!"
    Usually the answer to this question instantly determines the level of competence of the dissatisfied. Well, along the way, age and level of intellectual development.
    And so is the name! What is the name of the successor!


    Really showing the business qualities of the Lavra and Shoigu. But they will not be allowed to advance as politicians. The governors are completely crushed by Putin. Senators are all representatives of the oligarchy. The existing system is beneficial to them.
    Engels also said - power writes laws for itself, to strengthen its power.
    So, you don’t have to wait for a breakthrough in politics or a change in the vector.
    It remains to wait for the next Great October.
    And, yes, there are no revolutions in prosperous countries.
    This is about howling that the Bolsheviks overthrew "good" tsarism.
    And the oligarchs as a keepsake.
    1. AUL
      AUL 9 November 2017 20: 44
      +1
      Quote: Sverdlov
      Really showing the business qualities of the Lavra and Shoigu. But they will not be allowed to advance as politicians.
      That's why they organized a mare and her kind. So that out of many evils they choose the lesser. But nobody will really let close worthy candidates to the process.
  15. ThomasSmith
    ThomasSmith 7 November 2017 11: 07
    +4
    First of all, we need to decide for ourselves what exactly we want, we will take Ukraine by force, for 30 years we will go into isolation as an aggressor, it doesn’t matter, of course, no one is selling or sharing new technologies with us. Also, constant guerrilla-sabotage actions by patients on their heads (due to the lack of a strong law enforcement system and the lack of semblance of the NKVD (50-60 sample) as an organ, this will go around for years, plus all this herd will move towards us, there will be screams on the streets of our cities SUGS and provocations, crime (weapons rush to the organized crime group), plus the restoration of everything bombed - huge financial losses, plus big losses (if only because the nation in question, harm like it loves, but at the moment it lives on that only. ) People’s unrest, especially state employees (they’ll cut off everything that is possible, zp, bonuses, complete stagnation of the pension system) ... And this is just the tip of the iceberg. I can’t imagine how to deal with this without blood and I can’t answer myself whether all this is necessary.
    1. Krasnyiy komissar
      Krasnyiy komissar 7 November 2017 11: 32
      +5
      There is one surefire method to combat the SUGS - mass INDICATIVE executions. Autosacks with law-abductors, Dudaevites, European mercenaries and other shit go to the central square of the city, people in green uniform drive them through assassins through a crowd of inhabitants, and after that they shoot at the back of the head with AK. And so, day after day, week after week, until all the muck is heard.
      The technique has long been worked out by the Chinese comrades, it just needs to be implemented on a much larger scale. Those shoot just a couple of thousand a year, and we will have to bring down ideological enemies in the hundreds of thousands. If there was a team from above, there would be artists right away.
      1. Egor-dis
        Egor-dis 7 November 2017 12: 11
        +3
        Quote: Krasnyiy komissar
        There is one surefire method to combat the SUGS - mass INDICATIVE executions.
        Not that I was strongly opposed. But, there are two nuances.
        1. Mass indicative executions strongly affect (not for the better) the mental state of society as a whole. Therefore, if executed, then not in large numbers, only the most "outstanding" ones.
        2. Taking into account the first point, it would be much more effective to use them as prisoners (for 2-3 life sentences) to restore the country, material and moral compensation to the victims of the regime (this concept can be used to bring almost the whole country) and boost the economy (in this In particular, the “helmsmen” of the Nazi regime and the whole oligarchy will turn out to be especially valuable “sitters”.
        1. Krasnyiy komissar
          Krasnyiy komissar 7 November 2017 12: 54
          +5
          Planting a bander does not make sense, given past experience. Even the use as a work force is doubtful - everything will be done through one place, and it is very problematic to protect this herd. There is no motivation for work for life-senters, and to release them after 10 years is to step on the rake once again.
          1. Romey
            Romey 7 November 2017 15: 36
            +2
            Lord comrades! No need to complicate the situation, everything is very simple. You just need to know the Ukrainian mentality typical of a peasant. Naive, gullible, superstitious, easily pecking at beautiful slogans. He will just be on the drum if the average Ukrainian sees with his own eyes what hard power is (or at worst its appearance, like ours), that someone cares about his interests (or at least pretends) and finally just skillful propaganda: if If you managed to make a stubborn Ukrainian banderlog from a Russian southerner, then there will be stopudovo ways to crank it in the opposite direction. But this also works for us: with almost complete absence of real successes (with an abundance of imaginary), Putin has an overwhelming rating, even taking into account how these ratings are made ...
          2. Egor-dis
            Egor-dis 9 November 2017 10: 50
            +3
            [quote = Krasnyiy komissar] It makes no sense to plant Bandera, given past experience. [/ quote]
            That is, taking into account past experience, not to resettle in Siberia, from where they really can return, namely to plant.
            [quote = Krasnyiy komissar] Even using it as a workforce is doubtful - everything will be done in one place [/ quote] As they used to say in the USSR: "If you don't know how, we'll teach, if you don't want, we'll force it."
            [quote = Krasnyiy komissar] and it is very problematic to protect this herd. [/ quote]
            And it depends on where to use them. If in the mining industry, or in the mining industry - from a mine working (500 m deep) or quarry (with a wall height of 50 m) you can’t run away great. Well, plus, chipization and tracking bracelets have not been canceled by anyone.
            [quote = Krasnyiy komissar] Life-sentenced people have no motivation to work, / quote] Motivation is not a problem. If the soldering will be issued only after the fact well made norms, then the desire to do work poorly or in part will disappear, possibly together with the "willing".
            [quote = Krasnyiy komissar] and to release them after 10 years is to step on a rake again. [/ quote]
            For this, it will be necessary to give them 2-3 lifelong, so that they would not even dream about parole. And, besides, it is important not only "how much to sit," but also "how to sit." Under certain conditions, for example, on uranium mine workings, they may not last 3-5 years.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 November 2017 15: 37
        +2
        The method is certainly reliable, the East is a delicate matter.
      3. sgrabik
        sgrabik 7 November 2017 16: 24
        +6
        I personally completely agree that in emergency situations it is necessary to act decisively and firmly, not to chew snot with all this liberalism, not to play democracy and tolerance with all sorts of pro-Western rabble, this is when these same democrats bury the country and plunge it into controlled chaos, similar to Ukrainian Maidan, only many times worse and deeper than in Ukraine, everyone remembers the dashing 90s when the country was led by a sales gang of democrats-traitors, we don’t need to think what they say about it in the West, we don’t give a damn about the West, it is much more important to all of us what is and what will be in Russia and we are not indifferent to the future of our country, therefore I am sure that all patriotic citizens of Russia are ready to defend it by destroying traitors and pro-Western Russophobes by all means, without exception, including with arms in hand.
    2. Andkor1962
      Andkor1962 7 November 2017 13: 52
      +2
      All right. But we need to respond somehow, and not just "express concern."
    3. Viktor is the winner
      Viktor is the winner 7 November 2017 13: 53
      +5
      There are many more problems, including the debt of Ukraine. The power for such self-sacrifice is not ready. By radical methods, this question can be solved with the national idea. The same China as an example. But the authorities are not ready to lose “everything that was acquired not by hard labor” abroad, and this is an unambiguous major change in the elites; the elite will not change their minds.
    4. sgrabik
      sgrabik 7 November 2017 16: 59
      0
      Well, already the 90s were that, really, someone once again wants to experience such shocks and return all this chaos, collapse and plunder of the country?
  16. erased
    erased 7 November 2017 11: 08
    +7
    The article sets out in quite some detail the situation and possible actions of banderlogs and their owners. But here is the question
    Isn’t it time to end with “Minsk” and give a quiet life to all the people of the DPR who have attended the referendum ?!
    hanging in the void. Who is he talking to? To the authorities of the Russian Federation? But power at nine-tenths (that would be nice!) Consists of enemies of the people. Are they going to make decisions about the start of the otvetka? Yes, their grandmother instantly block and demolish. And relatives, and real estate, and shares? Why lose your own? For the sake of Donbass? Yes, burn it with a blue flame. Together with Russia, for that matter!
    The Kremlin must be very, very strong to make it scratch at least somehow. And do not recall the Crimea-14 and Syria-15/17. There are other layouts and other motives. And now, when over the hillock they have finally completely retreated from the shock of the sharp maneuvers of the Russian Federation and have completely taken control of the situation, no one will allow the Kremlin to arrange a show anymore.
    So don’t wait. Well, or wait for that baking. True, it can be expressed in hundreds and thousands of lives of Russians / Russians. But these are the details.
  17. turbris
    turbris 7 November 2017 11: 19
    +5
    All the author writes correctly, but the comments of "determined patriots" who live very far from the Donbass are astounding. Everyone is so “decisive” and “bold,” sitting on the couch and knowing that they will not be touched in any case. And among the inhabitants of Donbass, by the way, a lot of relatives live on the other side and there are not only nationalists sitting in dugouts, let's hit with all our might, kill another couple of thousand Slavs, and then what? The regime in Ukraine will change, then you can still count on something, but for now you need to exhaust the regime with the Minsk agreements and respond tough to shelling, when Poroshenko decides on a military adventure, then everyone’s hands will be untied.
  18. Karaul73
    Karaul73 7 November 2017 11: 27
    0
    Nonsense. Ukraine will not have enough resources on two fronts. And she did not fly to the Crimea. At the helm in Ukraine are by no means not masochists. The fire of war can be inflated even without sorties into the Crimea, there will be enough Donbass.
  19. Vladimir Avakimov
    Vladimir Avakimov 7 November 2017 11: 47
    +2
    This can be resolved after the election of a REALLY new president of Russia!
    1. Bosch
      Bosch 7 November 2017 15: 53
      +2
      The new will be the old.
  20. UncleLars
    UncleLars 7 November 2017 11: 47
    0
    But what cards for journalism - the main thing to emboss terrible and unusual. And no one bothers why, together with an FSB officer, an airborne soldier died? There was a special operation ... Where the Airborne Division provided operational support.
    My Donetsk relatives grunted at the hail of hail - somewhere it rumbled a bit, we got used to it ... On Facebook every day Donetsk is wiped off the face of the earth ... Basurin has such a job ...

    Support!
  21. sgrabik
    sgrabik 7 November 2017 12: 22
    +4
    Indeed, it’s time for us to end with these awkward and meaningless attempts to come to an agreement with the Kiev junta, for some reason we’ve been afraid for so long to offend them and act harder with them, first of all we need to clearly understand that the situation has already gone too far and without the most extreme and painful measures it’s practically impossible to solve, it’s necessary to move from just words and methods of soft diplomacy to adequate and decisive retaliatory actions that fully correspond to the challenges that Western parties imposed on us through Ukrainian events nёry ", it is necessary to neutralize the threats that have arisen at our very borders and which are increasingly threatening our national security and the territorial integrity of Russia, because in the West we have calculated this whole scenario very carefully, many steps forward and Ukraine in this case is a bargaining chip in an attempt to ruin and destroy Russia, undermine stability and try to ruin the state system from the inside with the help of all kinds of saboteurs and specially trained on Ukrainian territory American instructors agents finally need to understand that a peaceful and totally bloodless way to resolve this conflict, we can no longer, the West will continue to exacerbate the volatile situation and will not allow Ukraine to act independently and in the western Ukrainian scenario, the question is likely a military solution laid down in advance.
    1. turbris
      turbris 7 November 2017 14: 10
      0
      And according to your logic - do you have to decisively and immediately start a war with Ukraine? Do not wait provocateurs - this is exactly what the West is seeking.
      1. sgrabik
        sgrabik 7 November 2017 16: 45
        0
        You are very poorly versed in the current situation, I do not urge the immediate start of hostilities, but in the event of a large-scale offensive by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, we cannot remain aloof, otherwise we will completely miss the strategic initiative and will not be able to return it, or do you think that we should take an ostrich pose and pretend that something that is happening near our borders does not concern us?
        1. turbris
          turbris 8 November 2017 11: 51
          0
          Just do not have to be clever, because Ukraine does not launch a large-scale offensive, and everyone understands that in this case there will be an answer, groupings of troops have already been created. Why does the United States hesitate to start supplying lethal weapons to Ukraine? Because in this case, we will legally arm the Donbass with modern weapons and no one will even hide. Therefore, this is not an ostrich pose, but a strategic initiative is captured in the course of hostilities, and not before they begin, you should know this very well "versed" in everything.
  22. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 7 November 2017 12: 23
    +8
    Our diplomacy in matters of Donbass is a complete zero. In general, Russia in this matter is not just toothless, but frankly takes the side of Bandera and the State Department. The oligarchs rule!
    1. turbris
      turbris 7 November 2017 14: 06
      0
      Who are you to evaluate the work of our diplomats in the Donbas? Another "sofa" analyst?
      1. myobius59
        myobius59 7 November 2017 18: 44
        +5
        Yes, no .. Of course we are all "nobody" except you. You are one of those who show "concern."
        Only one BUT. YOU EVERYTHING eat what we grow up, live in what we build, and so on and so on ..
        We feed you loafers. Therefore, it is clear that we are "nobody."
  23. Altona
    Altona 7 November 2017 12: 36
    11
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    and so we endlessly observe the concerns and bewilders of the KREMLIN honestly looking stupid after the sabotage and terrorist attacks of the Kiev regime.

    ---------------------------
    The Kremlin and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs have returned to the pre-Crimean period and want to again bend the stick, which they believe has gone too far in relations with the United States. This is understandable from the point of view of the philistine psychology of Putin and his ministers, the family, the children are in the West. But from the point of view of the state’s interests, “express concerns "and" get off with tomatoes, "by golly, not seriously.
    1. turbris
      turbris 7 November 2017 14: 03
      +2
      Not tired of trolling any topic yet? No, I will save the "anti-Putiners" from you? The whole site was littered with their screams. Russia without Putin is Ukraine, and that’s it.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 7 November 2017 14: 36
      0
      But from the point of view of the interests of the state, "expressing concern" and "getting off with tomatoes," by golly, is not serious.


      So from your point of view, the interest of our state should be in the war?

      Or how? Or what to express?

      How many human lives of citizens of the Russian Federation will interest (from your point of view) be geopolitical?

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  25. Bosch
    Bosch 7 November 2017 15: 50
    0
    For a reason, Guliaka came to Hohland. Banderlog made the go-ahead.
  26. Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 7 November 2017 16: 12
    +3
    Quote: c-Petrov
    But from the point of view of the interests of the state, "expressing concern" and "getting off with tomatoes," by golly, is not serious.


    So from your point of view, the interest of our state should be in the war?

    Or how? Or what to express?

    How many human lives of citizens of the Russian Federation will interest (from your point of view) be geopolitical?

    Firstly:
    and yet why immediately war with ukroreih? as they say in Odessa, but sho, it is impossible to take adequate measures? (the article very clearly says how to send to the source?)
    and secondly: to take such measures that the ukronatsik would be very offended! to voice them? again, I’ll send it to the article, there are so many etihimers that the ukrorayk will howl, and the geyropa will begin to frown!
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  28. myobius59
    myobius59 7 November 2017 18: 32
    0
    Quote: Mairos
    The loss of US aircraft over North Vietnam (1964-1973)

    Douglas A-1 Skyrader

    - Air Force: 191 aircraft in 1964 — 1972
    - Navy: 69 aircraft in 1964 — 1968 years
    - Total: 260 aircraft

    Douglas A-4 Skyhawk

    - Navy: 282 aircraft in 1964 — 1972 years
    - KMP: 91 plane
    - Total: 373 aircraft

    Grumman A-6 "Intruder"

    - Navy: 62 aircraft in 1965 — 1973 years
    - ILC: 25 aircraft
    - Total: 87 aircraft

    LTV A-7 Corsair II

    - Air Force: 6 aircraft in 1972 year
    - Navy: 100 aircraft in 1967 — 1973 years
    - Total: 106 aircraft

    Douglas A-26 Invader

    - Air Force: 22 aircraft in 1962 — 1969 years

    Cessna A-37 Dragonfly

    - Air Force: 22 aircraft in 1967 — 1972 years

    Douglas AC-47 Spooky

    - Air Force: 19 aircraft in 1965 — 1969 years

    Fairchild AC-119 Shadow / Stinger

    - Air Force: 6 aircraft

    Lockheed AC-130 Spectrum

    - Air Force: 6 aircraft

    Boeing B-52 Stratofortress

    - Air Force: 48 aircraft in 1965 — 1973 years

    Martin B-57 Canberra [1]

    - Air Force: 56 aircraft in 1964 — 1970 years

    Douglas B-66 Destroyer

    - Air Force: 14 aircraft in 1965 — 1972 years

    Lockheed C-5 Galaxy

    - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1975 year (non-combat loss)

    De Haviland C-7 Caribou

    - Air Force: 20 aircraft [2]

    Douglas C-47 (C-117) Skytrain

    - Air Force: 21 aircraft in 1961 — 1973
    - Navy: 1 aircraft
    - ILC: 2 aircraft
    - Total: 24 aircraft

    Fairchild C-123 Provider

    - Air Force: 53 aircraft in 1962 — 1971 years

    Lockheed C-130 Hercules

    - Air Force: 55 aircraft in 1965 — 1972 years
    - ILC: 4 aircraft

    Lockheed C-141 "Starlifter"

    - Air Force: 2 aircraft in 1967 year

    Lockheed E-2 Hokai

    - Navy: 2 aircraft in 1970 — 1971 years (non-combat losses)

    Grumman EA-6 Proler

    - Navy:?
    - ILC: 2 aircraft
    - Total: ?

    Lockheed EC-121 Warning Star

    - Air Force: 2 aircraft
    - Navy:?
    - Total: ?

    Douglas EF-10 Skyline

    - ILC: 5 aircraft

    McDonnell-Douglas F-4 Phantom II

    - Air Force: 658 aircraft in 1965 — 1973 years
    - Navy: 138 aircraft in 1964 — 1973 years
    - ILC: 99 aircraft
    - Total: 895

    Northrop F-5A Freedom Fighter

    - Air Force: 9 aircraft in 1965 — 1967 years

    Vout F-8 Cruzader

    - Navy: 147 aircraft in 1964 — 1972 years
    - ILC: 22 aircraft
    - Total: 169 aircraft

    North American F-100 Super Saber

    - Air Force: 243 aircraft in 1964 — 1971 years

    Convair F-102 "Delta Dagger"

    - Air Force: 14 aircraft in 1965 — 1967 years

    Lockheed F-104 Starfighter

    - Air Force: 14 aircraft in 1965 — 1967 years

    Ripablik F-105 Thunderchief

    - Air Force: 382 aircraft in 1964 — 1972 years

    General Dynamics F-111 [3]

    - Air Force: 11 aircraft in 1968 — 1973 years

    Grumman HU-16 Albatross

    - Air Force: 4 aircraft in 1965 — 1966 years

    Boeing KB-50 Superfortress

    - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1964 year

    Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker

    - Air Force: 3 aircraft in 1968 — 1969 years [4]

    Cessna O-1 Bird Dog

    - Air Force: 172 aircraft in 1963 — 1972 years
    - ILC: 7 aircraft
    - Total: 179 aircraft

    Cessna O-2 Skymaster

    - Air Force: 104 aircraft in 1967 — 1972 years

    North American OV-10 Bronco

    - Air Force: 63 aircraft in 1968 — 1973 years
    - Navy: 7 aircraft
    - ILC: 10 aircraft
    - Total: 80 aircraft

    North American RA-5C Vigilent

    - Navy: 27 aircraft in 1965 — 1972 years

    Lockheed RF-101C Voodoo

    - Air Force: 39 aircraft in 1964 — 1968 years

    Lockheed SR-71 [5]

    - Air Force: 2 aircraft in 1970 — 1972 years (both losses are non-combat)

    North American T-28 Trojan

    - Air Force: 23 aircraft in 1962 — 1968 years

    Lockheed U-2 "Dragon Lady"

    - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1966 year (non-combat loss)

    Cessna U-3B

    - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1968 year

    De Haviland U-6 Beaver

    - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1966 year

    Helio U-10 Super Courier

    - Air Force: 1 aircraft in 1969 year

    Total: 3374 aircraft.

    In addition, 578 unmanned aircraft were lost.

    The hammer, major. As they say, facts are a stubborn thing.
    I didn’t think that the amers had such a variety of aircraft!. And the USSR Air Force was criticized because they had too many different planes. Yes, we are compared to the main terrorist country, just babies.
    However, it probably started back in World War II. Already there they had the greatest variety, among all the warring.
  29. myobius59
    myobius59 7 November 2017 18: 36
    0
    Quote: Mestny
    - Name, sister! Name!"
    Usually the answer to this question instantly determines the level of competence of the dissatisfied. Well, along the way, age and level of intellectual development.
    And so is the name! What is the name of the successor!

    Medvedev.
    Really it is not clear. As Zadornov said, “Bald-hairy, bald-hairy”. In this case, Putin-Medvedev, Putin-Medvedev.
    Do you feel?
  30. Yuri Gogin
    Yuri Gogin 7 November 2017 18: 48
    +3
    Destroy saboteurs on the spot, do not take alive, then they will end, but if someone was taken alive anyway - a hot interrogation and a noose.
  31. Altona
    Altona 7 November 2017 21: 09
    +1
    Quote: turbris
    Not tired of trolling any topic yet? No, I will save the "anti-Putiners" from you? The whole site was littered with their screams. Russia without Putin is Ukraine, and that’s it.

    -------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    I am not an "anti-Putin", I am generally against the bourgeois republic. Your cries are all the more boring for a long time, or rather "approvals" for any reason.
    1. turbris
      turbris 8 November 2017 12: 02
      0
      I don’t know who Altona you are against, probably “against everyone”, the site is discussing an article that you haven’t even read to the end, but you’re already getting into a discussion about the president, the article is not talking about him, the topic is completely different. And you either received the task, or you just went over the head on Putin and you consider him the only culprit of all your troubles, but not yourself in the first place.
  32. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 7 November 2017 21: 13
    +2
    I think there are specially trained people who, at a given time, are considering the situation that has arisen, as well as possible solutions to it. Something to advise them and especially to indicate, I do not have enough information. Therefore, I recommend to calm down and leave the business to professionals.
  33. Altona
    Altona 7 November 2017 21: 21
    +3
    Quote: s-t Petrov
    So from your point of view, the interest of our state should be in the war?

    Or how? Or what to express?

    How many human lives of citizens of the Russian Federation will interest (from your point of view) be geopolitical?

    -------------------------------------
    The interest of the state in upholding its interests, and not the interests of its elite, including by military methods. Military methods are not only bombing. The United States has long been using military measures against us - expulsion of diplomats, sanctions, seizure of diplomatic property, rabid Russophobic propaganda, war against us by various proxy forces, including terrorists. These are the so-called asymmetric military operations.
    We can answer absolutely the same. In our case, Donbass and Crimea are outside the scope of international law, which means that you can at least open an offshore in Crimea, at least Silicon Valley and use US patents with impunity. We must establish strict order on the western border, first of all, demanding respect for the rights of Russian-speakers. With regard to Ukraine, this is not done, because there is Gazprom’s business interest. We can restrict the movement of American diplomats + -500 meters from the Embassy. We can call the American ambassador to the Duma and demand an explanation from him on any occasion. Many things can be done without raising planes and missile launchers. Only no one does this, because "if only there was no war as in 1941." Because the center of capitalism is in the USA, and Russia is a cutlet that should be obediently cut with a knife and fork in all directions. Let's see what will happen on February 18, 2018 and which ultimatums will be presented to us. In December, our Olympic team may be deprived of the flag, anthem, participation in the opening and anything else. But now we will probably only bend, not reacting in any way.
  34. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 7 November 2017 22: 14
    +3
    The revitalization of the Kiev security forces in the Donbass has a simple goal - to help the Kremlin agree to peacekeepers ... When peacekeepers take control of the Russian-Ukrainian border, it will be easier for the Kremlin to "wash their hands" ... By the way, the volume of Russian financial investments in Ukraine’s economy is 3- We have a place among other countries. Anyone who believes that soon we will flop over Bandera is mistaken ... Finance is not poured in order to break it later.
  35. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 7 November 2017 22: 54
    0
    The Russian armed forces performed well in Syria. The same will be in Ukraine. Just a small victory is needed closer to the presidential election. Military strategists know better than us, couch warriors.
  36. jonht
    jonht 8 November 2017 03: 14
    0
    Somehow it’s not very similar to Damantsev, so take and smell the butter in the fire ....
    Regarding the answer, is it all, and is everything ready for an open confrontation with half the world (Geyropa, FSA and other psheks ...)?
    Or is everyone ready, "... let's get involved in the beginning, then we'll see ...."?
    Perhaps Damantsev has his own people, or his own intelligence has been set up, a network of illegal immigrants is working ....
    Yes, I want to clean my faces, but I need to make sure that after that I wouldn’t have to spit blood myself ....
    Yes, it’s not a question to clean out the outskirts, become world villains, rake the shit out of the outskirts, fight the Bandera underground, and wash off the ears of slops that will be poured on us by all world media ...
    In this case, it can simply close all borders immediately, cut off the Internet, drown out TV and radio, and live in isolation ....
    It is unrealistic, therefore, it is necessary to act thoughtfully, without impulsive shocks, coldly and prudently. Yes, it is difficult, but the only true.
  37. Bat
    Bat 8 November 2017 18: 33
    0
    And if in response to send our saboteurs, to the outskirts
  38. NordOst16
    NordOst16 9 November 2017 10: 11
    0
    They wrote about 15 S300 divisions that would be quickly suppressed by anti-radar missiles. Well, our defense industry engineers beat themselves in the chest and assure us that the anti-aircraft systems of the Almaz-Antey NGOs are extremely difficult to suppress. It seems to me or is someone a star here?
    1. turbris
      turbris 9 November 2017 11: 58
      0
      You can suppress any electronic means, a phased array transmitter (like on the S-300) is much more difficult, but you can also, the main thing is how much effort and money you need to attract. To begin with, it is necessary to approach the air defense system at a distance when the interference becomes effective, which is also difficult, because the air defense system does not fight alone, so that everything depends on the specific conditions of the situation.
      1. NordOst16
        NordOst16 9 November 2017 12: 51
        0
        This is all clear. There, in addition to the radar, there may be problems with the Kolchuga / Kolchuga M radio intelligence reconnaissance station which it will be impossible to suppress with anti-radar missiles. This system drank blood from the Russian Air Force back in Georgia
        1. turbris
          turbris 9 November 2017 16: 53
          0
          Well, RTR stations can also be dealt with by creating radiation simulators, because they do not shoot at target designation from radar and RTR stations, they are needed only to aim the air defense systems, and then the air defense system detects, captures and guides missiles at the target.
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 9 November 2017 18: 22
            0
            Well, in any case, it’s easy not to wake up anyway
  39. NordUral
    NordUral 10 November 2017 23: 07
    +1
    I involuntarily recall the missed opportunities of spring 2014. When the Ukrainian army hardly occurred to fight with Russia. And so much blood of Donetsk and Ukrainians was not shed.