Israel has shown how it intends to bypass the Russian air defense system

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The Israeli military corporation Rafael showed the latest AIR EW Systems, capable of suppressing the air defense of the alleged enemy. As an example, Russian C-400 and Pantsir-S were used.



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  1. +22
    3 November 2017 21: 22
    Well, well ... They showed a good cartoon!
    1. +13
      3 November 2017 21: 28
      Quote: Gawker
      They showed a good cartoon!

      And how "accessible" everyone told ........ laughing
      1. +25
        3 November 2017 21: 54
        Quote: Smog
        Quote: Gawker
        They showed a good cartoon!

        And how "accessible" everyone told ........ laughing

        And there they didn’t really say anything ... everything that is said, a la "turn on the magic shield ... and the radar does not see us."
        Advertising balcony request
        1. +5
          3 November 2017 21: 58
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Advertising balcony

          And you did not understand the irony ????
          1. +8
            3 November 2017 21: 59
            Quote: Smog
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Advertising balcony

            And you did not understand the irony ????

            Yes, I understood everything ... and in general - I did not attack you, just, ahem ... joined the opinion feel
            1. +6
              3 November 2017 22: 05
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              I didn’t attack you,

              Yes, I have no complaints! drinks soldier I'm talking about the language, English, which I do not know!
      2. +36
        3 November 2017 21: 57
        Well done! completed the mission - blew up the CHP?
        Israel's mission - should everyone around live in the desert?
        Jewish mission - should everyone around?
        No.
      3. SMP
        +2
        3 November 2017 23: 25
        And how "accessible" everyone told .....


        Shhhhhhh !!!! be quiet the same Israeli military secret laughing
    2. +14
      3 November 2017 23: 17
      Is it that the Jews were going to fight against Russia, against those who essentially saved them from complete extermination in Europe? Ungrateful Pharisees!
      1. +1
        5 November 2017 13: 41
        and who created their state?) Neither Joseph Vissarionovich helped))
    3. 0
      4 November 2017 10: 35
      And most importantly, a calming sleep dream.
    4. +4
      4 November 2017 13: 25
      Why cartoon?
      This is a modern interpretation of the very real Israeli Air Force operation "Opera" to destroy the French-made Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq in June 1981.

      Theoretically, something similar can be done against the modern S-400 and Shell. Unfortunately, in spite of all the protective measures, the physics of classical radar does not allow us to effectively deal with directors of active or combined (active-passive) interference. In practice, there are special modes of combat work in the conditions of interference, which allow with 90% probability to destroy the jammer even if he tows the generator on a cable.
      1. 0
        8 November 2017 20: 10
        But nothing that today is "a second" in 2017. And domestic gunsmiths have gone far ahead, plus we are equipped with electronic warfare systems much better. Israel can show as much as desired, let it try.
  2. +4
    3 November 2017 21: 37
    If this is true, then all of these expensive Stealth technologies, which are used to produce fifth-generation fighters, become extremely useless ...
    1. +8
      3 November 2017 22: 07
      why do you think the hype with the su-34 and the hut rose? the fact that the Jews only just painted our already created, experienced and began to make the next version.
  3. +9
    3 November 2017 21: 52
    A commercial ... about nothing.
    1. +5
      3 November 2017 22: 01
      This is what you think, if you did it, it has no analogues in the world
      1. +19
        3 November 2017 22: 06
        Quote: Lex.
        This is what you think ...

        Yes, that's exactly what I think.
        A video is a typical advertisement, real information is zero integers, zero ones torn. I’m talking about this, but what about you, I'm sorry?
        I didn’t know anything about the “miracle weapon” itself, and I don’t know. Maybe there is, maybe not.
        Here, by the way, the article was on Khibiny:
        https://topwar.ru/128491-kompleks-reb-hibiny.html
        ... check out at your leisure. This is not advertising, but quite a solid material ... unlike the video.
      2. +19
        3 November 2017 22: 16
        Lex.
        This is what you think, if you did it, it has no analogues in the world
        Leave the hell under the air conditioner. Overheated?. It was possible to get your air force in front of the air defense of the Arabs. Well, certainly not in front of our air defense. And the airborne forces. You are so powerful that it’s terrible. Who told you that our air defense was without EW cover? And the guidance channels "Shell" are only radar? So get out of the heat. Dodge. Drink cold tea with ice, green. And let you go. hi .
      3. +10
        4 November 2017 14: 37
        Quote: Lex.
        This is what you think, if you did it, it has no analogues in the world

        That is, do you think that our air defense systems will stupidly sit in a cartoon like this and wait for the brave Israeli pilots to pass over them, frantically flapping their wings? And do you not take into account our jammers, electronic warfare systems? At the same time, it is not so simple to suppress or deceive the radars of air defense systems, since they are created to work in conditions of anti-radar countermeasures; otherwise, they stupidly make no sense.
        1. +2
          4 November 2017 16: 46
          Clear. What if all systems work perfectly. Here it is up to experience. Let's see while politics rules.
          1. +1
            5 November 2017 09: 28
            Quote: Shahno
            Clear. What if all systems work perfectly. Here it is up to experience. Let's see while politics rules.

            It is unclear what you were going to look at? If only at the ruins ...................
          2. +1
            6 November 2017 04: 41
            Already seen in the last big Lebanon War - your aircraft almost ceased to exist and solely thanks to OUR air defense !! soldier tongue
      4. +3
        4 November 2017 16: 36
        one thing is not clear if Israel has a super invisible f-35 why all this? maybe it's from the birds smile Well, on the shells and others there are other detection channels.
      5. +1
        4 November 2017 23: 10
        You are so mistaken that you are even mistaken about the depth of your error.
      6. 0
        6 November 2017 02: 11
        Quote: Lex.
        This is what you think, if you did it, it has no analogues in the world

        What is shown in this video is self-suggestion for you from powerlessness in front of Russian air defense systems, nothing more.
        By chance, your bucket with a set of nuts and bolts wasn’t accidentally scratched by the S-200, but for many your version with a bird is in doubt.
        By the way, about this cartoon shown, I recalled the saying: - Don't say gop, until you jump over.
      7. 0
        9 November 2017 03: 49
        so with us it’s already in service and even abruptly than in this video, without any cables)
    2. +8
      4 November 2017 02: 14
      That's right. Although even the example of this video shows that the air group entered the detection and capture zone then turned on the electronic warfare, it illuminated itself even better and rests on its laurels from its “impunity”. But this is in theory, but in fact the "return" will fly and not one. Something like that.
  4. +7
    3 November 2017 22: 03
    Israeli military corporation Rafael showed a colorful animation ...
    - Holywood, however!
    1. +9
      4 November 2017 08: 16
      He's relaxing
  5. +2
    3 November 2017 22: 25
    in every fairy tale there is a hint. in Syria, Israel is bombing without punishment. it is a fact .
    1. +5
      4 November 2017 00: 56
      Gennady Usov
      in every fairy tale there is a hint. in Syria, Israel is bombing without punishment. it is a fact
      There is a hint in every tale. Good fellows a lesson. And not good, let them continue to think that it’s possible in the cartoon to break into positions with the S-400 and the “Shell” on F -16 wassat


      laughing wassat drinks
      1. +1
        4 November 2017 08: 41
        this is power !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much ))))))))))))))
      2. 0
        8 November 2017 02: 31
        And whose?
        In the 1st animated film "Someone Wets" Amers,
        in the 2nd, “someone is wetting” the T-90.
  6. +3
    3 November 2017 22: 55
    Disputes on the topic of "who whom" will be confirmed only in the event of a real war. At least no one has yet managed to create a “miracle weapon” ...
  7. +2
    3 November 2017 23: 10
    What are you ruffling about Israel let them do then comparable in practice
  8. +3
    4 November 2017 00: 10
    I have a question for connoisseurs. That took off, flew, bombed and all? And they don’t count on the answer?
    1. +7
      4 November 2017 06: 56
      Israel is a thin layer of butter on a Middle Eastern sandwich. As you know, a sandwich tends to fall butter down. If they think "we have the Temple Mount, the values ​​of the three world religions, they will not touch us," then they are deeply mistaken. In war, all this is not worth a penny. The Americans burned Dresden with all its cultural values ​​“at one time”.
    2. +3
      4 November 2017 08: 00
      Quote: serg v zapase
      bombed and all?

      All of course, this is a fairy tale, but in a fairy tale, after the wedding of GG, always the end. How they lived there then is silent, maybe in the morning no one woke up, like a mead was scorched ...
    3. 0
      5 November 2017 00: 55
      And this is part of the second cartoon. It will be even more interesting there. Caliber and Su-34 under the guise of Khibin and other surprises interesting for Israel.
  9. +2
    4 November 2017 04: 25
    Quote: tractor driver
    Well done! completed the mission - blew up the CHP?
    Israel's mission - should everyone around live in the desert?
    Jewish mission - should everyone around?
    No.

    That's it!
  10. +2
    4 November 2017 04: 27
    Quote: Lex.
    This is what you think, if you did it, it has no analogues in the world

    Come on, stubborn! There is something to say, speak on business!
  11. +4
    4 November 2017 07: 50
    N-da-ah, from modesty, the representatives of this company are not in danger of death, their customers, without departing from the cash register, will crash if that ...
    In life, then, the Israeli Air Force makes all missile launches from outside the SAR ...
  12. 0
    4 November 2017 10: 02
    Naive dreamers)
  13. +5
    4 November 2017 10: 36
    Like, no one remembered the S-200 Vega and the F-35? Say, they destroyed Vega, and then F-35 collided with a bird fellow
  14. 0
    4 November 2017 11: 37
    Bugagagaga neighing over soaps
  15. 0
    4 November 2017 11: 42
    Israel does not know that there are other radars besides ground, so it’s better not to risk it, otherwise you can completely lose and be dishonored.
  16. 0
    4 November 2017 12: 17
    Yeah, wise guys. Monitors are extinguished, flying, monitors have earned. And from the back, after the flight do not want to get? This is not for you to cut budgets in Russia ...
  17. +1
    4 November 2017 12: 26
    Well, now on computers, not only cartoons have learned to make films - movies entirely sometimes are computer ("Avatar"). They would try in real life. Then they would have lifted the tail of importance. In the meantime, there is only one desire - to weigh a good pendal under this tail!
  18. +1
    4 November 2017 12: 43
    "Israel has shown how it intends to circumvent Russian air defense systems"
    Well let them try laughing
    1. +1
      4 November 2017 13: 01
      Quote: Ilja2016
      "Israel has shown how it intends to circumvent Russian air defense systems"
      Well let them try laughing

      So in Macyafa have already shown and on c-200 already hinted.
      1. +4
        4 November 2017 13: 56
        don't forget to free the Golan Heights from your presence
      2. +1
        6 November 2017 04: 58
        Already in the last war, your air defense Soviet forces chopped up your backlash "on your heels" and only the coward of the Arab troops stopped the extermination of your aircraft, for a couple of days and - you would have walked with bombs tongue
  19. +1
    4 November 2017 12: 48
    Quote: sy chyv
    Quote: serg v zapase
    I have a question for connoisseurs. That took off, flew, bombed and all? And they don’t count on the answer?

    we even count and then your base tartus will disappear like dust and all your super booper achievements turn to dust

    What is verbal diarrhea?
  20. +2
    4 November 2017 13: 04
    All this anti-aircraft defense - a stupid delay of time - it will be overcome in any case, the life time depends on the mass of the raid and the technical equipment of the enemy. While the range of the radar is several times shorter than the enemy detects it - the means to destroy the radar will be one step ahead.
  21. +2
    4 November 2017 13: 10
    Such a mediocre, Jewish cartoon ...
    But in fact, they are overgrown, which organ, they take our technology as an example ?! It’s good that at least they’re not destroying her ...
  22. +2
    4 November 2017 13: 46
    But will Rafael land where after such an attack ???
  23. +8
    4 November 2017 14: 05
    "wow wow wow palekhchi guy" (c)
    You do not have to be a “professor” of Tel Aviv University (no), but in fact an expert in the field of the Air Force and Air Defense in order to notice some inconsistencies - just know some facts and be observant.
    At the beginning of the video, we see airplanes without identification marks (which can also be said about something, apparently, someone just pisses admit that it is they who are going to bomb) .In addition, they use the old (un) good F-16s, which as BE indicates the level of readiness of the F-35 (apparently, he is so "good" that he was not entrusted with such a dangerous mission).
    The video itself would not have been called fabulous; rather, it is an arrogant threat, and it’s very naked.
    Quote: tractor driver
    Well done! completed the mission - blew up the CHP

    The second point is not a thermal power plant, but a nuclear power plant in Bushehr. But everything is clearly clear. Who has been jerking off Israel recently? Iran, so the object of the attack is completely obvious. not the docks begin here - Iran is not armed with the S-400 and the shell, I remind those who are in the tank that they bought the S-300. But the S-400 and the shell are at the VKS bases in Khmeimim. So it’s still not clear what they want to say with this video - whether they are attacking Iran. Well then, they had to show the S-300, and not the S-400 and the armor, either on the Russian Air Force (and what, the Turks shot down our plane - which prevents Israel from attacking the Air Force in Syria under any pretext).
    I will return to the video itself. This item is mounted on an external pendant, and most likely, judging by the size, it will not fit inside the F-35, and if it is placed on external pendants, all its F-35 stealth is lost, so we decided to send the old F-16s, apparently no difference.
    There are no questions about 1 subject - blinds the S-400, everything is clear here. Questions begin with 2 subjects - it type blinds the Carapace. And if the carapace is blinded, it cannot shoot - and the question arises - how to find out about the effectiveness of 3 objects (this is the canoe hanging around the dog like a tail behind a dog). Therefore, we decided to show that The carapace still fired, but was aimed at the third canoe and missed. The question immediately arises about the effectiveness of 2 items - how could the Shell be fired if it was blinded by 2 items? It has a white veil on the monitors! So, the second item still could not suppress the Shell, so it is not effective, because
    he did not cope with his task (Compare with 1 subject - as he crushed the S-400, he didn’t shoot anymore, there are no questions for him, everything is logical). Well, then, maybe the second subject suddenly turned off so that the Shell could shoot way decided to test the combat effectiveness of 3 items? Who in real battle will be engaged in such a clowning?
    In addition, mind you - they only blinded the air defense systems, and destroyed the nuclear power plant - that is, it could have been an imitation of an attack on an object guarded by air defense and the airborne forces of the Russian Federation. They could destroy the air defense systems too - but apparently they were covered up, and they only blinded them. as in this case, calibers will fly to the Hel Haavir air force bases and give them complete defloration so that they don’t have time to take off the next time, so there’s nothing to fly and do harm to their neighbors. If there were Iskanders in Syria, then Undoubtedly in this case, the development of events, instead of the Caliber, Iskander can do this, while no iron domes and other things can help them - Iskander will precisely land on the airfields on schedule and clean them from unnecessary aircraft. they don’t need them and they want to get rid of them in such a sophisticated way. In addition, you can bomb the nuclear reactor in Dimon in return - let them feel the charm of radiation contamination, which would undoubtedly happen if you blow up the Bushehr nuclear power plant.
    so this video is just some kind of farting.
  24. 0
    4 November 2017 14: 13
    No, well, damn it, like in a movie! And Cho, is this true? laughing wink feel
    In the cartoon, you can show the active lattice, but it is impossible to show the passive one, and here they show impudence, not reality.
  25. +5
    4 November 2017 14: 13
    First, about the movie - did not like the F-16. Israeli planes look like ancient rubbish against Russian air defense systems - you could at least draw new fashionable F-35s. The “crap” on the thread really pleased - it looks at least ridiculous - it may be really terribly technological, but it looks ridiculous in advertising.
    Now about the jammer - I’m sure that the Russians know about this technology no less than the Israelis, they know what to oppose it and how to avoid losses. Nothing is said about how this thing can withstand AWACS and MIG-31 aircraft, not to mention the constant control of Israeli airfields and their allies. It is difficult to miss the rise of the strike group even if you are Russian from the cranberry American militants of the late 80s.
    Conclusion - Rafael Corporation “invented” a new toy and is trying to suck well-wishers of Syria and Iran on the Russian threat’s hype.
    Hmm ... And yes - this is an advertisement for the defense industry not so much of Israel as of the Russian Federation.
  26. +1
    4 November 2017 14: 26
    Quote: tractor driver
    Well done! completed the mission - blew up the CHP?

    It seems that the Israelis didn’t even stir in their brains that they had bombed a peaceful object ... Terrorists are bad :) Let them think that their saucepan on a rope will save, it will be easier to destroy.
    1. +1
      4 November 2017 19: 09
      This is an advertisement of state terrorism, not otherwise. I understand that if they depicted PU as an Iranian infantry brigade or even an ancient skud - such as a preemptive strike, destroyed the means of a possible attack, then this would be at least some kind of normal explanation. But here the destruction of the peace reactor is clearly depicted. Or they hope that in the world people are completely stupid and swallow without hesitation (I mean, self-defense and the elimination of threats have their limits - they obviously do not include the destruction of peaceful objects, it doesn’t matter under what pretext. But they think that everyone in the world is already so stupid that they will perceive such savagery as "self-defense"), or have become insolent from their impunity. In any case, I have not yet seen such a level of barbarism as the destruction of peaceful objects - so that no company, even a western one, takes pictures, this has not happened. Another bottom is broken, gentlemen.
      I’m sure if we took off something like that, in the West there would have been a stink to heaven- "Russian barbarians are destroying a peaceful object!"
  27. +2
    4 November 2017 14: 37
    Quote: Lex.
    This is what you think, if you did it, it has no analogues in the world

    Hello. The most interesting thing is how to suppress the optoelectronic system. The OES serves both for detecting targets and for tracking them and guiding missiles in the optical and thermal frequency ranges. The ECO accompanies the target using the IR range of 3-5 μm, which ensures the daily use of rocket weapons in the optical mode of operation. The range of auto tracking (with a meteorological range of 10 km) is: F-16 - 17-26 km; HARM RPR - 13-15 km. To ensure noise immunity, the communication system changes the frequency of 3500 jumps / s according to a pseudo-random law in a wide range. To summarize: if it’s Russian it’s a child prodigy, if your or your allies have no words “miracle weapons”.
  28. +2
    4 November 2017 14: 39
    One more. How many idiots already, in pictures and in cartoons, have destroyed all of Russia, entirely ..., to the ground, can not be counted! But, hypothetically ... how many Governors need to be sent as “guests” to melt sand throughout Israel? Ours must also in Soyuzmultfilm order the appropriate video, well, for education ...
    1. +2
      4 November 2017 14: 59
      And here Russia. You in the atonement of patriotism did not notice that it was just an advertisement for Raphael. Incidentally, a very serious competitor for KRET.
      1. 0
        4 November 2017 23: 11
        It certainly is nothing if nothing happens. And if it happens, then what?
      2. +3
        5 November 2017 03: 34
        because the shell and s400, who besides us have so many of them?
  29. 0
    4 November 2017 15: 03
    All this nonsense, if something could have shown cartoons, but really would have kicked, and twisted on all channels
  30. +1
    4 November 2017 15: 22
    And the Jews say they are peaceful people winked in this promo video, they’re so steep, hammering an ordinary TPP (judging by the picture), probably forgot about “flying sapper blades”. bully
  31. 0
    4 November 2017 17: 11
    Quote: Vita VKO
    Why cartoon?
    Unfortunately, in spite of all the protective measures, the physics of classical radar does not allow us to effectively deal with directors of active or combined (active-passive) interference. In practice, there are special modes of combat work in the conditions of interference, which allow with 90% probability to destroy the jammer even if he tows the generator on a cable.

    Are you not familiar with passive radars? Or do you not know that they are easily integrated into the S-400 and beyond?
    Passive Antenna Fighters (VFAR)?
    Jews stupidly advertise their crafts, choosing a "worthy" goal.
  32. +1
    4 November 2017 18: 24
    Quote: Shahno
    And here Russia. You in the atonement of patriotism did not notice that it was just an advertisement for Raphael. Incidentally, a very serious competitor for KRET.

    What does the introduction have to do with it? Show how your canoe overcomes the iron dome, is it the best?)))
  33. +1
    4 November 2017 19: 16
    "Quote: tractor driver
    Well done! completed the mission - blew up the CHP?
    Israel's mission - should everyone around live in the desert?
    Jewish mission - should everyone around?
    no ... "And you did not ask: why should everyone live in the desert and be debtors and for how much? And if we are told about this, apparently hinting at the destruction of the USSR and the Soviet People, then we must justify our claims on and to oblige the debtors to pay, as the Bible says, a hundredfold, and add to this the Holocaust, which was carried out by the Nazis under the auspices and control of the Zionists, who carried out the will of the one who provided the capital for the good thing for these scumbags - turning free people into. And if Hitler didn’t succeed, then their work with other creatures was burned out. Therefore, we need to think about how to restore the country and people, and how not to get lost again, listening to the trills of this bastard. And if we talk about the customer of wars, it’s enough to recall the well-known saying: whoever pays, then orders the music, in this case the policy of war against peaceful peoples, therefore one must be on the alert and have the means and methods to counter the thief.
  34. 0
    4 November 2017 21: 32
    Quote: Santa Claus
    one thing is not clear if Israel has a super invisible f-35 why all this? maybe it's from the birds smile Well, on the shells and others there are other detection channels.

    So it’s super invisible when the tongue is scratched, but in general it is hardly noticeable without the included radar. And as they turn on the radar, it glows like a tree.
  35. 0
    4 November 2017 21: 42
    Quote: yych dd
    Quote: tractor driver
    Well done! completed the mission - blew up the CHP?
    Israel's mission - should everyone around live in the desert?
    Jewish mission - should everyone around?
    No.

    really it was necessary to depict the base of Russian ichthyomes in tartus or the kuzyu smoke exhaust, and I’m sure if it comes to a collision the way it will be and it already was in 67 with your vaunted weapons and in 73 and 82 in Lebanon and then your superbubunderblocks were the best in the world and did not sit at all at the controls of airplanes and air defense are the Arabs but the popes of the current ikhtomets and where are they all? the same will be with ichthytes number two

    Better f-35 with an EPR of 0.0000000000000000000000000001 mm2 there is nothing.
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  37. 0
    4 November 2017 21: 51
    what type of airplane do they have radars more powerful than ours on the ground 100ton tractor pulls,
    1. 0
      5 November 2017 20: 28
      so technology decides, in a country where there is no electronic base at all, even yesterday, you only have to make 100 tons and then they are much inferior to portable
  38. 0
    4 November 2017 22: 00
    Quote: Observer2014
    Gennady Usov
    in every fairy tale there is a hint. in Syria, Israel is bombing without punishment. it is a fact
    There is a hint in every tale. Good fellows a lesson. And not good, let them continue to think that it’s possible in the cartoon to break into positions with the S-400 and the “Shell” on F -16 wassat


    laughing wassat drinks
    yes yes yes let them think that this can be done
    1. 0
      5 November 2017 20: 26
      has no ANALOGUES, that’s what will be there in the distance in the future of the wow how terrible we are ...
  39. 0
    4 November 2017 22: 05
    I yell from this topic as they all want to make our way invisible-you don’t see me I have an invisible hat-uuuuuauaaaa
  40. 0
    4 November 2017 22: 09
    if you go unnoticed, not invisible, you make your way to the house and Baaalsha’s house and a lot of people burn neighbors and then they will find you and ohhh they will be beaten if they catch oyoyoyoy in the house
  41. 0
    4 November 2017 22: 16
    Quote: Lex.
    This is what you think, if you did it, it has no analogues in the world

    I think it’s enough to demolish those who want to fly here without invitation
  42. 0
    5 November 2017 05: 00
    Strange, but the missiles that are from the S-200, that of the Shell explode, when approaching the target.
  43. 0
    5 November 2017 07: 34
    Not only that, they didn’t get there either. Jews are such Jews!
  44. 0
    5 November 2017 10: 27
    I have no doubt against the background of the latest unpunished flights of Israeli aviation
  45. 0
    5 November 2017 11: 50
    But is there any connection with the recent sale (or contract) of our S-400 to the Saudis? Like "not so good ..."
  46. +1
    5 November 2017 16: 12
    If my sclerosis doesn’t fail me, the S-400 primarily brings down planes - jammers
  47. +2
    5 November 2017 16: 27
    Pay attention to what is being bombed. Truly a Freudian reservation.
  48. 0
    5 November 2017 20: 19
    judging by this, this is exactly how they act there, destroying ammunition depots and columns with military equipment of the Russian Federation
  49. +1
    5 November 2017 21: 24

    Well, deceased ?! Have some fun !!!
  50. +2
    5 November 2017 22: 04
    The channel has prudently disabled video comments)
    I’m not special, at the beginning, okay, the exposure of the radar (this is probably a breakthrough and the air defense systems are not protected from this, of course)), but at the very end: they fired three missiles at five targets (for some reason), all three missiles led a blende (and then okay, so be it), but why did the rockets fly by and did not explode? They do not explode from contact with a target. In theory, this snag that "pulled" the rockets to itself should be destroyed and the rest fly to the target. And somehow it’s not quite right to launch fewer missiles than targets, it seemed to me that the opposite is not a sin and to launch a couple of missiles ... but I, as I said, is not special)
    1. 0
      8 November 2017 12: 50
      and they modestly showed “rackets” from the Pantsyr, if the “baby of the XNUMXth” flutters next to the snag. Well, how long does the cable need to be in order not to get under the distribution?
  51. 0
    6 November 2017 20: 12
    Quote: Den nn
    Not only that, they didn’t get there either. Jews are such Jews!

    they and the missiles will deceive
  52. 0
    6 November 2017 20: 13
    Quote: mishko70
    But is there any connection with the recent sale (or contract) of our S-400 to the Saudis? Like "not so good ..."

    well because s500 is better
  53. 0
    7 November 2017 12: 31
    when a provocation is started, they don’t tell anyone. And this Hollywood crap in its editorial office (VO) with the stamp “secret”, see for yourself with your friends
  54. 0
    7 November 2017 16: 08
    Quote: NEXUS
    And don’t you take our jammers and electronic warfare systems into account at all?

    Do they work XNUMX hours a day?
    1. 0
      8 November 2017 12: 53
      The following radars, SRTR (Klochugi type), and radio reconnaissance stations operate around the clock. And the radar systems of the air defense system are completely silent until the very last millisecond.
  55. 0
    7 November 2017 16: 13
    Quote: Vitaly Dorofeev
    First of all, it brings down jammer planes

    He does what he is told. If you identify these directors, then get out, and if 200 targets are coming towards you, then figure out where everything is. Moreover, the stagers may be completely unmanned. By the way, you can imagine how many decoys the entire NATO bloc can launch
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      8 November 2017 13: 00
      Vader might also arrive on the Death Star...
      Any air defense system can be overloaded. Another question is how much it will cost. And the issue of detecting active jammers was resolved so long ago that not everyone will live that long. Starting with "primitive" triangulation. And jammers are priority targets. And yes, the unmanned stager must also be large and expensive (well, cheaper than the Fe-35, of course)
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    7 November 2017 16: 16
    Quote: kamski
    you just have to make 100 tons

    I won’t be clever, but the power is determined not by the electronic base, but simply by the generator. And the electronic base forms the ranges
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    8 November 2017 04: 51
    Should we try?
  58. 0
    8 November 2017 12: 45
    advertising video for "jackets"
    Well, who is fighting SO? What kind of degenerate would keep air defense reconnaissance systems on all the time? Not to mention the guidance station, etc...
    The air defense system will start working on target designation from the RTV when the targets are well stuck in the affected area and they will no longer have the opportunity to get out of it. If the unfortunate people use interference, you will have to let them get closer.

    The classics of the genre were shown by the Yugoslavs in 99. The first information about takeoffs from NATO airfields came from coffee-loving tourists via the Internet and telephone. The Chinese leaked information from satellites. Then radio reconnaissance was involved (there is no escape from negotiations with the ground and other aircraft). Radio-technical intelligence stations were the next to be included in the work. Please note that nothing works against radiation yet. Already on a tip from the RTR station, the radars were turned on for 20-25 seconds in order to get two notches - to determine the direction and speed of the target (antenna rotation speed - 6 rpm, the operating time of NATO reconnaissance equipment to determine the coordinates of the radar, at that time, was 40-60 seconds)
    And only then, when the target was likely to be captured by the air defense missile system radar, was the command given for its operation.
    Note! The Yugoslavs did all this by hand! Without any computers or automated control systems.
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    8 November 2017 16: 06
    Quote: Al Zet
    And yes, the unmanned stager must also be large and expensive (well, cheaper than the Fe-35, of course)

    jammers are placed in a container under the wing of a production aircraft. Its size allows it to be squeezed into the body of an average drone. And the price of a drone is 5-10 million dollars, which is much less than the price of a fighter
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      8 November 2017 16: 39
      "cheaper than the Fe-35, of course" it was a subtle irony
      Quote: Pilat2009
      jammers are placed in a container under the wing of a production aircraft, the size of which allows it to be squeezed into the body of an average drone

      Examples please. examples... and preferably combat use... Which is doubtful... Complex crap: conduct reconnaissance, communicate with the “ground”, make decisions, oh yes, create interference.
  60. 0
    8 November 2017 16: 59
    Quote: Pilat2009
    The jammers are placed in a container under the wing of a production aircraft, the size of which allows it to be squeezed into the body of an average drone.

    In fact, I don’t remember that we (the RTV cabin-bunker occupants) were very frightened by tactical jammers. It’s really unpleasant, bad and stuffy, but you can live. But specialized monsters like the EF-111 onboard stations of the B-52 really didn’t inspire foolishness. Actually, the transmitters and REB aircraft on large planes thrown under the very nose of the DRG were very annoying.
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    8 November 2017 17: 42
    Quote: Al Zet
    Actually, the transmitters and REB aircraft on large planes thrown under the very nose of the DRG were very annoying.

    Somehow, during a training exercise, one bad person planted it, naturally, right under our noses. Result: ICO has only milk, as in the Israeli video. And only four scheduled passenger “bast shoes” float by in a negative way. (Why bast shoes? Because “Defense”) And this despite the fact that the three-channel compensator there was very good.
    Translating this into Russian: in order to completely suppress the radar, it is necessary to suppress all the lobes of the diagram at once, placing, for example, an interference transmitter in close proximity to the antenna. Or simultaneously strangle, in this case “Defense”, four or more jammers from different directions.
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  63. 0
    9 November 2017 09: 11
    So, someone just wants a little gesheft against the backdrop of increased interest in purchasing Russian air defense/missile defense systems in the region.

    Oh-wey, why were you so worried?)))
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      9 November 2017 20: 39
      This is GESHEFT!
  64. 0
    9 November 2017 12: 58
    Abrams are there too, with mattress covers at the same time.
  65. 0
    9 November 2017 13: 59
    Come on, seriously? )))) Kindergarten )))))))
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    9 November 2017 20: 38
    added a comment about how the Yankees "stealth", and Yugoslavia? Doesn't it remind you? I thought they were more serious - Advertising, How the Yankees became - STUPID.
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    10 November 2017 21: 38
    Quote: Al Zet
    Examples please. examples... and preferably of combat use.

    Well, here are some examples:
    http://trcvr.ru/2017/09/05/%D1%80%D1%8D%D0%B1-%D0
    %B2-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%85-%D0%B8-%
    D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D
    0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BB%D
    0%B8%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85-8/
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