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FSB detained members of the Artpodgotovka movement cell who were preparing arson on Unity Day

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The FSB detained members of the Artpodgotovodka movement unit, who were setting fire to administrative buildings in Moscow on National Unity Day. This was reported in the Center for Public Relations of the FSB of Russia.


As a result of operational search activities in the Moscow region, the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation identified and suppressed the illegal activities of the secretly-located "Artpodgotovka" movement that planned to carry out 4-5 in November 2017, resonant extremist actions in the form of arson of administrative buildings using incendiary mixtures and attacks on police officers to provoke riots
- reported to the DSP of the FSB.

FSB detained members of the Artpodgotovka movement cell who were preparing arson on Unity Day


During the events held, all members of the cell were detained.
- reported to the DSP. During searches at their place of temporary residence, 13 glass bottles with incendiary mixtures, three canisters with fuel and lubricants, as well as devices for making Molotov cocktails that were planned to be used during the so-called “November 5 revolution” were found and seized. 2017 g. ”And with resistance to police officers. The issue of the initiation of a criminal case under Art. 30 and h. 2 Art. 205 of the Criminal Code of Russia ("Attempted terrorist act").



The FSB noted that "in cooperation with the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, the activities of the" Art preparation "cells in the cities of Krasnoyarsk, Krasnodar, Kazan, Samara and Saratov were suppressed.

The unregistered interregional social movement Artpodgotovka and the Internet project of the same name were created by a citizen of the Russian Federation Vyacheslav Maltsev for organizing a revolution in Russia, the FSB recalled. In July, 2017, a criminal case was instituted against Maltsev in part of 1. Art. 280 of the Criminal Code of Russia ("Public calls for extremist activity"). Fearing possible arrest, he disappeared abroad and continued propaganda of violent actions on the Internet. November 5 "Art preparation" promised a revolution in Russia. Maltsev, through his Youtube channel, declared that the Putin regime would soon fall. According to the oppositionist, the revolution should take place on November 5, immediately after the “Russian March” scheduled for the 4 number.

Activists of the “Art Preparatory” who remained in Russia in a number of cities of the country formed groups for conducting resonant extremist actions aimed at destabilizing the social and political situation
- noted in the DSP. At present, in the interests of the investigation, data on the detainees are not disclosed.
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  1. Logall
    Logall 3 November 2017 13: 57 New
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    Here they themselves and burn! So that it would be disgraceful ... But our court is the most humane in the world!
    Here they are, pseudo-patriots! With poop instead of brains ... Read incomprehensible literature written by nihilists ...
    Where does this kaka rush come from? Liberals, everything is clear with those, And these ... Well, although maybe from there ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 3 November 2017 14: 00 New
      10
      Any nonsense has bred .. It’s bad that our legislation is toothless for such “revolutionaries”. Perhaps it was hidden in Kiev?
      Quote: Logall
      Here they themselves and burn! So that it would be disgraceful ...
      Here they are, pseudo-patriots! With poop instead of brains ... On incomprehensible literature written by nihilists is read ...
      Where does this kaka rush come from? Liberals, everything is clear with those, And these ... Well, although maybe from there ...
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 3 November 2017 14: 42 New
        +5
        Quote: 210ox
        It’s bad that our legislation is toothless towards such “revolutionaries”

        This is not toothless legislation, it is ... wassat
        The tsar’s king did not hesitate to hang, he didn’t even spend bullets. Interestingly, if you install a scaffold on Red Square, do not suffocate from the stench in the west wind?
        1. ID90
          ID90 3 November 2017 17: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: Esoteric
          Interestingly, if you install a scaffold on Red Square, do not suffocate from the stench in the west wind?

          closer to the accused?
        2. Sasha71
          Sasha71 3 November 2017 22: 14 New
          +5
          Suppression technologies of the 17-19th centuries in the 21st century are not suitable. As well as industrial technologies of those times are hopelessly outdated. Of course, terrorists are sick and dangerous people, it is necessary to isolate them, but those who advocate public executions are visionaries. This is now even considered stupid. A typical reaction of an animal, a spoiled child, a crowd, a herd to an irritant is fear or aggression, accompanied by cruelty that is completely unnecessary for an intelligent person. The instincts of the crowd are primitive and predictable, and therefore they always play against the crowd and the individuals who are guided by them. What did the crowd achieve in Kiev? - That they were shot like a herd, raped and still have crooks and manipulators. Offering nonsense like public executions or primitive repression, you unknowingly pass yourself into the hands of manipulators. And they will find how to fuck you, using your instincts. "Cannon meat" is your only upsell in such a game. The harsher the repression, the harsher and ruthless the resistance. Even Comrade Stalin, with all his wisdom and talent as a manager, could not avoid physical elimination and defeat (with the greatest achievements, he did not manage to ensure the continuity of the course).
          Therefore, even if in ancient times it was understood that wisdom and cunning defeated power, then in the 21st century much more cunning and sophistication in the fight against enemies and the 5-column is required. Thank God, Putin’s team possesses the art of control, surpassing opponents by head, or even two.
          Not medieval public executions or executions and torture in cellars, but 1. hard work on all priorities (primarily on worldview, historical. idological). This activity deprives the enemies of moral support and support in society (cuts down the roots) of a strong undercover activity; 2. intelligence activities, the work of special services (and here Putin does not need to be taught). For example, I do not exclude the possibility that the same Maltsev is the same decoy duck as Sobchak. I do not exclude it. It is possible that Maltsev himself is surrendering his headless associates. (There is a brilliant tactic of victory: “You can’t win - lead.” It is impossible to completely defeat the 5th column, generously financed by the West. But it’s necessary to flood agents, even to lead the movements.
          Another, personal, example: I still 6 years ago, having read rezunov, having heard enough of the Mironovs. maltsev. Ivash and other all-mutters. was extremely cosmopolitan, anti-communist. and anti-state views, Putin called nothing more than an evil dwarf (almost like the ukromaydannuty now). And this despite the fact that Russian culture: Yesenin, Pushkin, Dostoevsky, Shukshin, etc. adored. He loved Russia, but believed that power was vile and insignificant (which is portrayed in 95% of TV shows and movies). And all because he did not filter the information, despite two higher legal education and many years of passion for philosophy. Everything changed the acquaintance with BER. Just a few lectures delivered by General Petrov and V.M. Zaznobin and in his head fell into place all that vaguely guessed. My basis was strong, so I needed only a little methodology.
          Therefore, I experienced very deeply in my experience - it is not necessary to win by violence and repression (this is an extreme means when time is lost and everything is profaned). For example, Maidan Yanukovych could disperse and win for Ukraine a couple more years of a quiet life. But, at least 10 years of preparation for the coup was missed! An entire generation of Russophobia, liberalists and hatskrayishchiki was already grown. Therefore, if this chiry had not been opened, the infection would have flared up in a year or two with even greater force. The generation of Russophobes and liberals would not go away. Therefore, I repeat: repression (i.e., lowest, military priority) is the last and most ineffective means. Sometimes necessary, but the last. Learn BER and DOTA - this is the only comprehensive teaching on society and governance.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 4 November 2017 00: 52 New
            +1
            Sasha71
            Learn BER and DOTA - this is the only comprehensive teaching on society and governance.
            I know this V.M. Zaznobina personally! Not enthusiastic about him. I personally did not know General Petrov. I can’t say anything about him.
            I had to review BER in 1993 at the request of the RKRP - even when it was only in the form of 2 volumes of typewritten text and was called "Dead Water". And the BER itself was then called the Public Safety Concept of Russia (COBR), and not just the BER. Or COBRA. And COBRA - she is the snake COBRA! It’s full of poison! No wonder I say that this is a political "sect."
            The authors of BER do not fully own the methodology of philosophy. I consider them political sectarians, eager for power! And then, apart from fascism, we won’t get anything from them.
            They have, of course, sound thoughts, but they are divorced from scientific viability. Therefore, in the strictly scientific plan, BER is not to be admired, it does not draw on reliability, and it is impossible to recommend it as a guide to action.
            1. Sasha71
              Sasha71 4 November 2017 02: 17 New
              +2
              Sorry, Tatyana, but you made a fatal mistake - you didn’t write anything except informative dubious personal emotional assessments (and even with an exclamation mark): “I know this V. Zaznobin personally! Not delighted with him.” Zaznobin is not a Mona Lisa. to delight you. :) I personally know Trump, Putin and Yuri Gagarin. (At the level of argumentation of this level, I won. :)) The rest of your "arguments" at the same children's level. Common phrases are operated by negligent first-year students, and that is just to throw dust in the eyes of kind teachers (because normal, rigorous teaching for common phrases simply poses a failure).
              On each forum there are people who, at the mere mention of BER, get very excited and begin to pour in common phrases. So I ask specific questions, after which it turns out that the person did not read, does not know, did not understand ... but condemns. :)
              So I ask you a question: Contest at least one basic position of BER. specifically, and not with shortcuts and dust in the eyes from common phrases that are not adequate for an adult.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 4 November 2017 19: 44 New
                0
                I tell you that I "Dead Water" (COBR = BER) reviewed and categorically then "blocked" oxygen for these "conceptuals" for its further distribution in other parties. But they do not give up, continue their work - with the same methodological errors as before - for about 25 years. With these errors they will die. I will find my review - I will show you where they have a scientifically insolvent "mess" ..
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                2. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 4 November 2017 21: 02 New
                  +1
                  Sasha71
                  So I ask you a question: Contest at least one basic position of BER. specifically,

                  I bring to you an excerpt from a scientific review of Dead Water (COBR = BER under the reaction of E. Kuznetsov, who later refused Dead Water himself.
                  E. Kuznetsov, deriving his own philosophical method of research, begins, it seems to him, with the discovery of a scientific paradox in the Marx method, allegedly embodied in the Leninist definition of matter. Moreover, the author writes the following: “Lenin's definition of matter:“ matter is a philosophical category for designating objective reality, which is given to a person in his sensations, which is copied, photographed, displayed by our sensations, existing independently of them, ”is a tautology. It is equivalent to the following identity: “matter” = “objective reality”. “Objective reality”, in turn, is the Universe, that is, the universe as a whole ”4.
                  It contains a gross methodological error of the author. For Lenin, “matter” and “objective reality” are not tautology, but different concepts.
                  V. I. Lenin in his definition of matter writes unambiguously: "matter is a philosophical category for designation ...". Designations of what? What - in this case, this is a secondary matter.
                  All this is akin to the following example:
                  Sounds we hear and pronounce.
                  The letters we see and write.
                  Letters are a symbol for sound.
                  The same sound in different languages ​​has different designations - different letters. In Morse code, sound is indicated by dots and dashes.
                  In the same way, in all philosophical methods, philosophical categories are a kind of proper letters for the symbolic designation of various phenomena.
                  For example, each philosophical method has its own philosophical category to denote objective reality:
                  • in the Marxian method, it is “matter”;
                  • with the Hegel method - this is an “absolute idea”;
                  • in religion, this is the work of God's hands ”;
                  • and in the author’s method of E. Kuznetsov on the work “Dead Water” - it is “a process-trinity: matter, information, measure” 5.
                  Thus, there is no theoretical error in the Leninist definition; the mistake is made by the author E. Kuznetsov, who grossly violated the rules of formal logic for the corresponding case.
                  Attacking unreasonably the Leninist definition of “matter” and distorting its true meaning, E. Kuznetsov has a very definite goal: to put on the agenda the main question of philosophy: what was primary - nature or consciousness? And to solve it in a roundabout way in favor of consciousness, dragging the concept of “information” into the solution of this issue already as an integral property - attribute - objective reality.
                  This is done as follows. The author writes:
                  “Read the definition further?” The universe "is copied, photographed, displayed, by our sensations, existing independently of them." “Copied, photographed” - two particular types of a more general property inherent in both the Universe as a whole and its individual fragments. This property is a reflection of the ordering of the universe by its fragments. DISPLAY - transfer for some time from any (in locality and volume) fragment of the Universe to any other (including from one to the same) “something” objectively existing, but not material, although it has a material carrier. This “something” remains itself and does not lose its objective quality when the objective quality of its material carrier changes.
                  This objective non-material “something” is the objective category ORDERING, that is, INFORMATION, in relation to which all material objects are carriers of a common natural multi-level information code, i.e. MEASURES. With respect to matter, this universal Universe MEASURE, a single universal Universe information coding system, acts as a multidimensional (containing particular measures) probabilistic matrix of possible states of matter ”6.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 4 November 2017 21: 12 New
                    0
                    Sasha71
                    So I ask you a question: Contest at least one basic position of BER. specifically,
                    Here's another example of philosophical absurdities in the Dead Water methodology (COBRA = BER).
                    Saying that INFORMATION as an intangible “something” does not lose its objective quality (in other words, when transferring from one object to another object), the author contradicts practical experience and violates the basic principle of the Marx method about the need to consider phenomena in their development from simple to complex also violates the historical principle.
                    For example, it is known that the concept of "information" always always belonged to the field of consciousness, and translated from Latin it meant: clarification, presentation, information that people transmitted orally, in writing, conventional signs and symbols. Moreover, in any case, for the information to be understood by the subjects of communication - people - and to motivate their behavior, they need to know the language of communication in which the information will be transmitted, that is, they need to know the semantic load of the symbols - to know the language symbols. Otherwise, the information, or incoming information, will not be able to change the behavioral motivation of the receiving entity in accordance with its true meaning. Subsequently, “information” also began to be called information about the world and the processes occurring in it, obtained using technical means. But even in this case, the input and output data from these technical means can be so specific that for the uninitiated, using the verses of A. Pushkin, they can also “leave a dead trace on the memorial leaflet, similar to the tombstone inscription in an incomprehensible language”.
                    In other words, INFORMATION as a kind of intangible “something” possesses in practice, contrary to the author’s opinion, the property of discreteness (interruption of continuity) when transferred from one material medium to another, in contrast to the universal eternal property of matter - its motion. Therefore, putting on one board the concept of “matter” and the concept of “information” in terms of its scientific status, as E. Kuznetsov does in his “PROCESS-TRIEDISM: matter, information, measure”, is scientifically untenable. The concepts of “matter” and “information” in their scientific status relate to each other, respectively, as “universal” to “private”.
                    Thus, the author’s designation of objective reality in his method as the philosophical category “process-trinity: matter, information, measure” are scientifically untenable. And such a statement by E. Kuznetsov as: “The absence in the Leninist definition of“ matter ”of the process-trinity: matter, information, measure — the methodological root of all the absurdities of Soviet history” 8 - sounds like complete absurdity.
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 4 November 2017 21: 26 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Thus, the author’s designation of objective reality in his method as the philosophical category “process-trinity: matter, information, measure” are scientifically untenable. And such a statement by E. Kuznetsov as: “The absence in the Leninist definition of“ matter ”of the process-trinity: matter, information, measure — the methodological root of all the absurdities of Soviet history” 8 - sounds like complete absurdity.

                      Bravo. Here with you in assessing this BER, I absolutely agree.
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              2. Tatyana
                Tatyana 4 November 2017 21: 33 New
                0
                Sasha71
                Contest at least one BER position. specifically, and not with shortcuts and dust in the eyes from common phrases that are not adequate for an adult.
                Ha! As for my alleged inadequacy - it sounds with you when you protect the BER just "cute"! I laughed at it from the heart!
                An attempt by the author E. Kuznetsov to derive his own philosophical method on the basis of the "process-trinity; matter, information, measure ”testifies that for his research method he chooses and uses the methods of some other, particular scientific disciplines, which he does not name in his work and which can only be guessed at. The analysis shows that this particular scientific discipline is “cybernetics” with its underlying principles, in particular, information theory and control theory.
                According to the requirements of the research methodology, the author needed to say this openly, and not hide it in his work in a methodological respect from the reader. The availability of the work of E. Kuznetsov would immediately increase. Then it would become clear and clear why the author poses philosophical problems in the natural science, technical language. In addition, a key to understanding the author’s preliminary phrases would appear, such as: “In this view, only the triune process is objective. Universe: MATTER and INFORMATION change in MEASURE. In our understanding, this is the minimum of the initial philosophical categories necessary to describe the world ... ”8. However, the author does not say that the author borrows the particular scientific method into his philosophical (i.e. universal) method because then it will be impossible for the author to stand in science above modern philosophy in general and ahead of all science.
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 4 November 2017 19: 22 New
            +4
            Quote: Sasha71
            the same decoy duck as Sobchak.

            since when is the “secular lioness” a decoy duck in the GDP? laughing she didn’t get into politics in life. Now they began to forget about her, so she decided to promote. and since experience is zero, everything goes awry. her headquarters had already fled. you still Tchaikovsky and hedgehog with her in the "agents of influence" write laughing
    2. Jedi
      Jedi 3 November 2017 14: 03 New
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      Quote: Logall
      Here they themselves and burn! So that it would be disgraceful ...

      Better on uranium mines for life. At least some good ...
      1. Logall
        Logall 3 November 2017 14: 08 New
        16
        No, they can’t be in uranium mines! Imagine What handsome men they can return ... Try to defeat them then ...
        1. jjj
          jjj 3 November 2017 14: 12 New
          +6
          Artists prepared acts of art like Odessa
        2. Jedi
          Jedi 3 November 2017 14: 13 New
          +7
          Did you post me a mutant specialist from STALKER? wink
          1. Logall
            Logall 3 November 2017 14: 16 New
            10
            Well, you like to wet such evil spirits!?!
            That's just live, FIG knows how it will turn out ...
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 3 November 2017 14: 20 New
              +7
              There is such a thing, but I haven’t met such people live, and I don’t really want to. yes
              1. Warrior with machine gun
                Warrior with machine gun 3 November 2017 15: 09 New
                +6
                Maxim, do you like to play pranks? I recommend "Escape from Tarkov" (if you haven’t come across it yet), very similar, only without mutants and anomalies yet))
            2. rruvim
              rruvim 3 November 2017 14: 41 New
              +2
              The burer is not enough ... And he is the most important! fellow
              1. Warrior with machine gun
                Warrior with machine gun 3 November 2017 15: 06 New
                +6
                the chimera is the most important, the bloodsucking champion is present)))
        3. Warrior with machine gun
          Warrior with machine gun 3 November 2017 15: 04 New
          +6
          Sanya, these are the characters of my favorite igruha !!!
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 3 November 2017 15: 20 New
            +7
            Nice to meet a fellow hobbyist! drinks
            Quote: rruvim
            The burer is not enough ... And he is the most important! fellow

            Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
            the chimera is the most important, the bloodsucking champion is present)))

            It all depends on the version and mod. bully
            Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
            Maxim, do you like to play pranks? I recommend "Escape from Tarkov" (if you haven’t come across it yet), very similar, only without mutants and anomalies yet))

            Just as I love! I will follow your advice and look, if this is not an online shooter.
            1. Warrior with machine gun
              Warrior with machine gun 3 November 2017 15: 36 New
              +6
              this is an online shooter, but you can check life, besides, there is offline with and without bots, though the test is still underway, but I got into my ears (as if my wife would not cut a frying pan from behind), all who came to visit my friends got out for a computer with wild eyes fellow , it feels like the guys who did "Stalker 2" finished their work in this game)))
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 3 November 2017 19: 15 New
                +5
                I have already seen. It turns out - I'll put it and try it.
          2. Logall
            Logall 3 November 2017 15: 46 New
            10
            Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
            Sanya, these are the characters of my favorite igruha !!!

            Well, I remember how much you read fiction!
            Igruha, she’s almost everyone’s favorite ...
            1. Warrior with machine gun
              Warrior with machine gun 3 November 2017 15: 55 New
              +6
              pulp fiction, according to the first world that in shops there is nothing worthwhile, some photo albums, but in nete I do not like to read (but have to)))
        4. LSA57
          LSA57 4 November 2017 19: 26 New
          +4
          Quote: Logall
          Imagine how handsome they can come back ...

          interesting, but on \ in urkain uranium is?

      2. Arkady Gaidar
        Arkady Gaidar 4 November 2017 18: 32 New
        +1
        Jedi! In any existing society, even at the time of its highest prosperity, there is a certain percentage of “defective” individuals - people with criminal inclinations, anarchists, revolutionaries, etc. Life has developed so that for these citizens, revolution has become the main theme of life. The process of re-educating such people is extremely long, so if the issue of punishing such people should be resolved, then it is cardinal. Half measures like hard labor and mines will help little.
        And the Soviet system of re-education of convicts is completely poached. And to restore it during the reign of libertarianism in Russia is extremely problematic.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 4 November 2017 18: 34 New
          +5
          Quote: Arkady Gaidar
          if the issue of punishing such should be decided, then cardinally.

          That is - to shoot for educational purposes?
          1. Arkady Gaidar
            Arkady Gaidar 4 November 2017 18: 38 New
            +1
            Why shoot? Moreover, the above wrote that the liberals in Russia are in power. They will not allow such a scenario. Their money and values ​​in the West, there they lick assholes. So alas! There are many interesting measures of influence, where everything seems to be the case, and after that people "get better like flies."
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 4 November 2017 18: 40 New
              +4
              You would have to work in the NKVD. good
              1. Arkady Gaidar
                Arkady Gaidar 4 November 2017 18: 51 New
                0
                Maybe you're right, only a big storm is apparently coming, which will be extremely difficult to get around. Singer Slipakov sang the following lines: "The people live in shit, but the shit lives completely." So this one day may end with something very bad. And I would not want to be a representative of the authorities during this period)) And these clowns from the "artillery preparation" are such a trifle.
                Moreover, there are global scenarios:
                https://publizist.ru/blogs/110700/20577/-
    3. Sergey-svs
      Sergey-svs 3 November 2017 14: 12 New
      +7
      Quote: Logall
      Where does this kaka rush come from? Liberals, everything is clear with those, And these ... Well, although maybe from there ...

      Yes, it can’t, but from there! Libera! negative Their so-called leader, one is Vyacheslav Maltsev, who was nominated by the PARNAS party in the State Duma elections in September 2016, and in July 2017 he left Russia after learning about the criminal case instituted against him. In short, a bunch of ".ovna", not revolutionaries! fool
      1. Arkady Gaidar
        Arkady Gaidar 5 November 2017 11: 53 New
        +1
        In fact, as far as I remember, Maltsev and his gang position themselves as Russian nationalists. Although I confess, I have not heard any national theses and slogans from them. But information came that they allegedly did not intentionally give out their "internal" nationalism, so as not to be considered extremists and not banned.
        And with Parnassus, Maltsev had an agreement, together to break through into power. According to the principle: "Enemy of my enemies, my friend!"
        On the whole, with regard to Maltsev, I have developed a strong belief that this is an extravagant person with a Napoleon complex.
    4. Megatron
      Megatron 3 November 2017 14: 36 New
      +1
      And when “there was sugar in the bags,” the FSB did not delay itself.
      1. Zheleznostop
        Zheleznostop 4 November 2017 08: 36 New
        +2
        The old barrel organ about sugar started again.
    5. NIKNN
      NIKNN 3 November 2017 14: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: Logall
      Here they themselves and burn!


      In, in, and then burn !!! laughing
    6. Vend
      Vend 3 November 2017 15: 20 New
      +3
      Many thanks to our specialists.
  2. assa67
    assa67 3 November 2017 14: 02 New
    +6
    the siloviki do not sleep, get ready ... during the arrest it was necessary to finish all
  3. pavelty
    pavelty 3 November 2017 14: 04 New
    +3
    A kindergarten of some kind ... was crushed by a revolutionary now
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 3 November 2017 14: 14 New
      +9
      Quote: pavlentiy
      A kindergarten of some kind ... was crushed by a revolutionary now

      These are not revolutionaries.
      These are ordinary maydauns, they are simply not enough.
      1. Arkady Gaidar
        Arkady Gaidar 5 November 2017 11: 58 New
        0
        Not certainly in that way. These are the very revolutionaries who were only grinding. And maydaun, they apparently perceive as a means to achieve their goals in modern conditions. That is, the overthrow of the ruling regime and its rise to power. By the way, today 5.11.2017 is their appointed day of revolution in Russia))
        And this is an explanatory addition:
        https://topwar.ru/128848-fsb-zaderzhala-chlenov-y
        acheyki-dvizheniya-artpodgotovka-gotovivshih-podz
        hogi-v-den-edinstva.html # comment-id-7522446
  4. wot
    wot 3 November 2017 14: 23 New
    +7
    Quote: Jedi
    Better on uranium mines for life. At least some good ...

    it’s time for a new type of punishment to be introduced - hard labor, otherwise they do not work, they eat and they still pump
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 3 November 2017 14: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: wot
      it’s high time to introduce a new type of punishment - hard labor, otherwise they don’t work

      First, manually wash the gold by weight of your own body. And the incentive to lose weight and the Russian budget increase ... wassat
  5. mishastich
    mishastich 3 November 2017 14: 24 New
    +8
    Where do they come from? From there, that's all. From mom and dad. They live in Russia. Walk the streets and look around.
    They will walk along Sennaya Square and think that they’ve got to Uzbekistan. They will go to Pr. Enlightenment - not yet in Tajikistan. And then Vyacheslav Maltsev catches them and says - robbed, we will kill all the chocks and it will become good. And the guys will listen, think and say - the dude is right in all respects, here she is the main problem of Russia.
    And they fall into the liberals in the same way, but I motivate them differently; the bureaucrats are snickering, we need to do something.
    (to the jihadists, by the way, too).
  6. wot
    wot 3 November 2017 14: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Gray Brother
    These are ordinary maydauns, they are simply not enough.

    you’re mistaken, look at least one of its videos on YouTube and how many people watch it and what they write, I suppose that most of them are couch warriors, but they still annoy their number, it’s time for the authorities to think about the situation inside the country
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 3 November 2017 14: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: wot
      that a large half of them are sofa warriors

      From hohland and other former republics of the USSR, sausage emigrants, just propaganda on a salary, well, there are of course domestic nuggets.
      It is impossible to keep statistics on one single resource, especially a thematic one.
  7. the villain
    the villain 3 November 2017 14: 29 New
    +3
    as well as devices for the manufacture of “Molotov cocktails

    And what, for the manufacture of Molotov cocktails, the stoneware also needs some kind of device ??? This is what the technique has reached. wassat
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 3 November 2017 14: 48 New
      +1
      And what, for the manufacture of Molotov cocktails, the stoneware also needs some kind of device ???

      Hide everyone's kitchen graters! This soap is rubbed on them in the field.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 3 November 2017 17: 13 New
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        Quote: Kerensky
        Hide everyone's kitchen graters! This soap is rubbed on them in the field.

        you confused KS with napalm, there (in KS / KM) sugar usually goes as a thickener ...
        1. Kerensky
          Kerensky 4 November 2017 12: 12 New
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          Well then, hide the jigsaws with which they saw the plywood, and the knitting wire ...
  8. exwarrent
    exwarrent 3 November 2017 14: 37 New
    +4
    Indeed, the idiots ... But the idiots are dangerous, there could be many victims (remember the same Odessa). I can’t understand, what did they want to achieve with this? Say, we’ll burn a dozen buildings, kill a couple dozen police officers, and that’s all, the people will follow us, they say, "Welcome to the revolution!"? I do not understand...
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 3 November 2017 14: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: exwarrent
      I can’t understand, what did they want to achieve with this?

      They are just meat. They do not want - others want, because of the hill. We need a picture in the media about how the Russian people hate Vlad Putin.
      And these boobies would simply be shot like cartridges - everyone would give a damn about themselves and what they wanted there.
      1. exwarrent
        exwarrent 3 November 2017 15: 18 New
        +1
        Yes, it’s clear that nothing happens just like that ... Money came from somewhere to organize, equip, equip and the like. I can’t understand, those who participated in this. How can you be so stupid as to fool around? How can you believe that by such means you can achieve some goals, except for a life-time prison cell?
  9. wot
    wot 3 November 2017 14: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: exwarrent
    kill a couple of dozen police officers and that’s all, the people will reach for us, they say, "Welcome to the revolution!"? I do not understand..

    and the police have parents, children are friends and relatives ..... are they not going to take revenge on the pissing revolutionaries ?????
    1. exwarrent
      exwarrent 3 November 2017 15: 21 New
      +3
      I think that they would not have survived to revenge on the part of relatives and loved ones — they were either liquidated when resisting, or put in a cell until the end of their days. I don’t understand another thing — how much you can be a fool to believe that by such means you can rock an entire country to revolution.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 3 November 2017 16: 42 New
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        Quote: exwarrent
        I don’t understand another thing — how much you can be a fool to believe that by such means you can rock an entire country to revolution.

        Any terror has its goals and most often, these goals are not direct.
        You won’t be able to do anything right away, of course, but you can influence schoolchildren in this way, for example, children in Navalny are not in vain the target audience, but these fainting images would be presented as heroes and freedom fighters - a ready-made role model, thus from the whole mass cultivated shkolota a larger percentage would become potential maydaunami.
        That is, spending a small amount of meat, you can get new meat in much larger quantities.
  10. Neputin
    Neputin 3 November 2017 15: 01 New
    +5
    That's interesting. if you now register a party, create a program that implies a change in the existing socio-economic system to another, based on the principles of social justice, try to get to at least regional elections HOW QUICKLY I WILL BE CLOSED ON ACCOUNT FOR EXTREMISM. I believe, taking into account the desire to change the system, 30 minutes after the formation of the party.
    But how else to deal with the ugliness that is happening now. No way. Therefore, all these oppositions are nothing more than “50 shades of gray,” because they do not imply any fundamental changes. And they are needed as air in our country.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 3 November 2017 15: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Neputin
      replacement of the existing socio-economic system with another, based on the principles of social justice

      There are such-the Communist Party.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 3 November 2017 15: 24 New
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        Quote: Gray Brother
        There are such-the Communist Party.

        Gray brother hi It’s time for Papa Zyu to farm the beds at the dacha, as well as Zhirik, too, the cats on the court mice are too fed up, and already catch their laziness to them. hi
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 3 November 2017 16: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: 79807420129
          The gray brother, Papa Zyu, it is high time to farm the beds at the dacha, as well as Zhirik too, the cats on the court mice are too fed up, and they are too lazy to catch them.

          Under the description fall.
          Now, if they begin to implement their beliefs outside the framework of the constitution, which, as I understand it, is hinted by Neputin, then they will come into the view of the organs.
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 3 November 2017 15: 21 New
      +6
      Quote: Neputin
      how else to deal with the ugliness that is happening now. No way

      Yes, it means you need to set fire to everything around? Or attack the security forces? What would get a bullet and a double, and the glory of those gentlemen, fools and consumables for Maltsev, Navalny and other abominations will be less.
    3. Doliva63
      Doliva63 3 November 2017 16: 51 New
      10
      "Close" very quickly. Faster than the authors of any other party (even extremist), who do not have the goal of changing the system. Socialism is afraid of power as hell.
  11. samarin1969
    samarin1969 3 November 2017 15: 01 New
    +2
    Quite a strange story ... Unfinished revolutionaries with obscure goals ... If there is no high-profile process - "prevention".
  12. askort154
    askort154 3 November 2017 15: 15 New
    0
    A series of the strongest fires in Rostov and Moscow, obviously the work of nonhumans, made me wonder when the FSB would "cover them". Now we are waiting for the results of the FSB in Rostov.
    1. locos
      locos 3 November 2017 15: 37 New
      +1
      And what about the fire in Rostov? They burnt old houses in the center, how many interesting things can be built there.
      1. askort154
        askort154 3 November 2017 16: 08 New
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        Locos ....A fire in Rostov what does the revolutionary have to do with it? They burned down old houses in the center, how many interesting things can be built there.

        When the private sector in Rostov was burned out, it seemed that this was a kind of raider seizure of land. And when markets flashed, as in Moscow, then thoughts about other options appeared. And first of all - a new type of terrorist attack .. It turned out - "politics", which is hard to believe
  13. Doliva63
    Doliva63 3 November 2017 16: 40 New
    +8
    13 Molotov cocktails and 3 fuel canisters - keep at home ?! Well it, at least, stinks, as a maximum - it is dangerous, not? No, the wrong "revolutionaries" laughing
  14. Sergey53
    Sergey53 3 November 2017 17: 40 New
    0
    Need a kind of censorship. We do not teach the culture of behavior and communication with the family. Look at house-2. There is an obsessive training on how to make it never happen. They do not teach anywhere how to behave in society. There are a lot of films on TV where there are only murders, fights, rudeness, neglect of each other. Here are just one part of what I have brought and grow SUCH. Permission and impunity is the breeding ground for this category of people.
  15. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 3 November 2017 18: 11 New
    +1
    FSB detained members of the Artpodgotovka movement cell preparing arson on Unity Day
    Question: "Why?" Shoot, but into the ravine. Moscow? What to do, take it to the Urals, our careers have not yet been transferred.
  16. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 3 November 2017 18: 17 New
    +2
    in Cheboksary identity in the subway is written artillery preparation and date
  17. Going
    Going 3 November 2017 18: 29 New
    +9
    The FSB noted that "in cooperation with the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, the activities of the" Art preparation "cells in the cities of Krasnoyarsk, Krasnodar, Kazan, Samara and Saratov were suppressed.


    And that they have a single center? how could this be allowed?
  18. Odysseus
    Odysseus 3 November 2017 22: 16 New
    +1
    There are two aspects of interest-
    1) Enchanting mediocrity of bourgeois nationalists / monarchists / imperials capable of only chatting on the Internet, and even then doing it badly.
    2) The regime’s strictly “democratic” approach — those who are ready to bite off the heads of Putin’s gang, but who speak on behalf of “BEGINNING”, that is, on behalf of the West — they get carte blanche. Those who speak (albeit with absurd slogans) from the name of the Russian people, those "democratically" planted as "extremists."
    1. Neputin
      Neputin 3 November 2017 22: 49 New
      +1
      So I'm talking about the same !!! Thank you for expressing in other words the main point of my comment. Mediocrity, which are "considered" by the opposition, or "extremists" who are "democratically planted", or the tamed opposition. which are allowed (so far) to feed on EU and US money. That's all. what we have. "Bored, girls ...."
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 3 November 2017 23: 03 New
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        It is clear that any change in the social system involves working underground or half underground (the illegal part of the party), because "democracy" is the power of democrats.
        "Not Democrats" they plant and shoot.
        Openly, only representatives of the "supreme power of the Democrats" can work - that is, representatives of the West. And even while in Russia the power belongs to the Soviet degenerates from communism (more precisely, even degenerates), then the representatives of the West work within certain limits (otherwise they get the Khodorkovsky case )
        Another thing is that Soviet reserves are not unlimited and degenerates from the CPSU step by step lose the resource for their parasitism.
  19. ROM1077
    ROM1077 4 November 2017 07: 53 New
    0
    and what will they show? it is not forbidden to keep bottles with gasoline at home
    1. Zheleznostop
      Zheleznostop 4 November 2017 08: 51 New
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      When the eggs pinch the door, they all sign, and remember a couple of new verses of the international.
  20. kamski
    kamski 4 November 2017 09: 29 New
    0
    Hmm soon coming out of the Supermarkets will be missed with a cry from him bottles, cans of incendiary liquid
  21. Mentat
    Mentat 4 November 2017 12: 57 New
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    On November 5, Artpodgotovka promised a revolution in Russia. Maltsev, through his Youtube channel, announced that Putin’s regime would soon fall. According to the opposition, the revolution should happen on November 5

    Most recently, YouTube removed a number of objectionable channels that allegedly conducted extremist activities (they created satirical videos in practice). Here is a character who conducts the most real criminal activity and uses YouTube for this. YouTube leadership does not bother it in any way? They don’t even consider this damage to the image? It would be interesting to hear the commentary of the YouTube office in Russia.
  22. Mentat
    Mentat 4 November 2017 13: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Doliva63
    "Close" very quickly. Faster than the authors of any other party (even extremist), who do not have the goal of changing the system. Socialism is afraid of power as hell.

    What kind of socialism, miraculous? Maltsev is a mentally ill person. Have you seen his channel? You don’t need to look for a long time to understand that a person has problems.
    Terrorist attacks are not politics, but crime. Do not try socialism to cover up organized criminal activity in order to obtain banal money transfers.
  23. Mentat
    Mentat 4 November 2017 13: 08 New
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    Quote: kamski
    Hmm soon coming out of the Supermarkets will be missed with a cry from him bottles, cans of incendiary liquid

    If they are acquired for terrorist attacks, they will seize and plant. Do not play the fool.