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Kurdish forces refuse to engage in combat with the CAA. US puzzled

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Keep coming news from Syria about the deterioration of the relations of the American contingent with the Kurdish armed forces. The events of recent days show that the actual alliance of the United States and the so-called Syrian Democratic Forces comes to an end reports the news portal "Kurdistan today".

After the United States actually supported the operation of the Iraqi armed forces against the Kurdish militia in Kirkuk, the VTS turned out to be practically “suspended”. The command of the Kurdish troops came to the conclusion that Washington could “throw” at any time, despite all the assurances of support.

One form of aggravation of Kurdish-American relations was the fact that detachments of Kurds armed with the United States actually abandoned direct clashes with the SAR government forces in the Euphrates region. Recall that from the "liberated" American coalition of Raqqah, the Kurds were literally driven in the direction of Deir ez-Zor to attack the CAA. However, against this background, an aggravation occurred in Iraq’s Kirkuk, and the Kurds saw the true face of Washington.

Syrian journalist Riyad Farid Hijab talks about the situation:
On the one hand, the United States planned to use the armed forces of the Kurds to fight the troops of Assad. On the other hand, ordinary Kurdish people had to send their people to the oil fields of Syria. Nevertheless, the dividends from the extraction of "black gold" would naturally flow into the US budget. However, the situation began to develop in a completely different way. Last year, Syrian Kurds clearly defined the boundaries of the compact residence of their people in the north and northeast of the country.


The Kurds decide that they do not intend to go beyond the designated “future autonomy”.

From the material:
VTS, consisting mainly of Kurds, do not plan to fight against the Syrian people and seize Palmyra and Damascus, while the Kurds will fight for their rights, including weapons in hand.


If the Kurds really stop at the borders of "autonomy", then after the complete liberation of Deir ez-Zor by the forces of the CAA, the group of ISIL (* forbidden in the Russian Federation) near the Syrian-Iraq border can finally be completed.
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  1. Barshchik-M
    Barshchik-M 4 November 2017 08: 03 New
    21
    I read today, American instructors are draping from Syria in the literal sense of the word, throwing everything ..
    Kurds are now in a very difficult situation ..
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 4 November 2017 09: 58 New
      26
      Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
      Kurds are now in a very difficult situation ..

      They found themselves in a difficult situation when they thought that the United States was helping them ... wink But the perplexity of the USA somehow pleases, Maybe they will understand that not everything in this world dumber them .... I think this is not the last surprise.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 4 November 2017 10: 36 New
        +6
        All this can not but rejoice! good
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 4 November 2017 10: 52 New
        +4
        Forgive me, but in my opinion, of all the forces operating in Syria, the Kurds are somehow doing better than everyone else. In their territories they managed to resist the barmaley. In a long civil war, they suffered less than other Syrian regions. With the weakness of the warfare of the central Syrian authorities, they have an excellent negotiating position.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 4 November 2017 11: 17 New
          +9
          Quote: alexmach
          Sorry, but in my opinion of all the forces operating in Syria

          Yes, how can I say, they were used as meat, promising sweets for dessert, now they are going to use them as a counterweight to Assad, What they promised they didn’t receive, it’s possible to continue for a long time ... Anyone who gets in touch with America will certainly come to a rake, Israel is just an exception , and even then, not knowing a lot, I don’t presume to judge for how long. request
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 4 November 2017 16: 46 New
            +3
            they were used as meat

            Used as meat or helped to do what they themselves were interested in anyway?
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN 4 November 2017 16: 50 New
              +2
              In fact, they didn’t help, because somehow the Kurds didn’t grow together ... now they are redirecting them to Assad with the same promises of help ... request hi
        2. PalBor
          PalBor 4 November 2017 13: 26 New
          +4
          Quote: alexmach
          in Syria, the Kurds are somehow doing better than anyone else. In their territories they managed to resist the barmaley. In a long civil war, they suffered less than other Syrian regions. With the weakness of the warfare of the central Syrian authorities, they have an excellent negotiating position.

          Yeah, now the Americans will quit, and the Turks with their proxies, Damascus with Russia and Iraq, with the support of the Iranians, will clamp them down, the position of theirs will become one - very interesting.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 4 November 2017 14: 19 New
            +2
            If they still give up, And if they are all clamped together, and not quarrel once again, for example, the Turks and Assad. The situation there is still difficult and hangs in the balance.
        3. Magorkiy
          Magorkiy 4 November 2017 16: 15 New
          0
          And how did they take Racca? Strem. They are not war
        4. askme
          askme 5 November 2017 02: 34 New
          +1
          You have some kind of alternative reality. Tell your tales to the Kurds from Afrin ....
      3. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 4 November 2017 23: 46 New
        +7
        Quote: NIKNN
        Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
        Kurds are now in a very difficult situation ..

        They found themselves in a difficult situation when they thought that the United States was helping them .. I think this is not the last surprise.

        I would like to believe that the example will be appreciated by other "allies" of the amers. It may finally come that the amers have no allies, there are only interests
    2. bald
      bald 4 November 2017 10: 00 New
      11
      Good afternoon, Vitaliy. The Kurds thought about it, but after the end of this mess they live together with the Syrians. And the states "well" have established themselves in this region. They must be driven from all over the Middle East.
      1. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 4 November 2017 11: 01 New
        11
        Quote: bald
        Good afternoon, Vitaliy. The Kurds thought about it, but after the end of this mess they live together with the Syrians. And the states "well" have established themselves in this region. They must be driven from all over the Middle East.

        Hi Volodya! The US has passengers there, but Israel has bristled and is trying to buy everyone ..
        But this time it’s not a ride with Russia ..! The order came to wet everyone and no negotiations ..
        It seems they agreed with Iran .. hi
        1. bald
          bald 4 November 2017 11: 14 New
          +4
          It is, only ours are careful, maybe for the better. The whole region (representatives) should gather in Sochi, no matter how they fight over Syria. It is already good that Syria will remain a sovereign state and united.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 4 November 2017 11: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: bald
        The Kurds thought about it, but after the end of this mess they live together with the Syrians.


        Hey. Thank. You correctly identified the creed of the Syrian Kurds. Moreover, the Russian negotiators need to put the Kurdish leadership at the negotiating table in Astana. However, there is one “hitch” - the Turks, who settled in the north of Syria, who seem to be our allies (very conditionally) and at the same time enemies of the Kurds in all territories (Turkey, Iraq, Syria). We cannot ask Erdogan to get out of Syria (as if we are doing one thing) and at the same time we cannot reconcile the Turks with the Kurds. Here is such a cat, however.
        1. Al Bychkov
          Al Bychkov 4 November 2017 12: 12 New
          0
          and we don’t have to ask anyone for anything, Syria will ask, Russia, Iran and Iraq will support.
        2. bald
          bald 4 November 2017 13: 12 New
          +4
          While the Turks in Syria - there will be no peace, and Israel and Iran have problems, and even through the territory of Syria (Hezbollah). Oh, how they will agree - FIG knows.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 4 November 2017 13: 17 New
            +2
            Quote: bald
            Oh, how they will agree - FIG knows.


            And I'm about the same, but it will depend on the art of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. We simply do not know much about the “hidden nuances” in this undercover fuss, and the future of this region will probably depend on them. Evgeny Satanovsky knows for sure.
            1. bald
              bald 4 November 2017 13: 30 New
              +3
              Eugene, that one is a bug! “But he is competent in politics, and therefore I respect him.” The truth has recently begun to break off, what can you do, the nerves are not always iron. And playing backstage will not be a joke.
  2. Logall
    Logall 4 November 2017 08: 04 New
    21
    Having removed striped glasses, the picture is seen much more real!
    It’s good that they didn’t do much trouble. The reckoning would be `` scarlet color ''!
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 4 November 2017 08: 18 New
      12
      Hi Sasha! hi I was right yesterday when I suggested the onset of "insight" among the Kurds. wink
      Sadness for the USA. lol
      1. Logall
        Logall 4 November 2017 08: 30 New
        11
        This sadness threatens big troubles, for the Kurds ...
        Max hi
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 4 November 2017 08: 33 New
          28
          Assad made it clear that the issue of Kurdish autonomy could be resolved positively. Here the Kurds made the correct conclusion that the tit in the hands is better than the star-striped woodpecker in the ass.
          1. Logall
            Logall 4 November 2017 08: 43 New
            11
            Max, they’re not so much of autonomy, but because of their own lives ... They probably remember how angry Hussein laid out their carcasses in piles ... In Iraq - They remember it well! No one wants a repeat!
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 4 November 2017 08: 45 New
              +9
              I don’t know which cockroaches roam in the head of the Kurds, but it’s better to lay down their heads for their interests than for some uncle from across the ocean.
              1. Logall
                Logall 4 November 2017 08: 59 New
                12
                They deigned to drive out striped cockroaches. But our Prussians remained, marching ... and even know where they came from
                The most frisky "stars" in clandestine establishments specializing in cockroach races were supplied by Kurdish Shahin Fesah. On his "farm" at the same time kept up to half a million running cockroaches

                But that's another story ...
                1. Lelek
                  Lelek 4 November 2017 13: 22 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Logall
                  and even know where they came from


                  I seem to be too.
              2. Scoun
                Scoun 4 November 2017 10: 21 New
                +3
                Quote: Jedi
                I don’t know which cockroaches roam in the head of the Kurds, but it’s better to lay down your head for your interests, than for some uncle from across the ocean.

                Only something tells you that this "red-haired uncle", who is eager to meet with GDP on the APEC fields, will actively play the card of the 6th peak
                Ukraine, posing as Ace. (With the Crimea, it could have been an ace) and now this is a beaten map in which they are trying to breathe strength.
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 4 November 2017 10: 27 New
                  +6
                  I also think so, since Trump has lost all his trump cards in Syria and he understands this very well.
        2. ando_bor
          ando_bor 4 November 2017 09: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: Logall
          threatens troubles, for the Kurds ...

          In the East, everyone already understood that Americans could be sent, and there would be nothing for it if they flied to Putin.
        3. Barshchik-M
          Barshchik-M 4 November 2017 11: 32 New
          +6
          Quote: Logall
          This sadness threatens big troubles, for the Kurds ...

          Turks and Syrians will kill them .. And Russia will not bother them in this ..
          We have a short conversation with traitors .. negative Ukraine is a good lesson!
      2. GAF
        GAF 4 November 2017 11: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Jedi
        Sadness for the USA

        Not only for the USA, but also for a neighbor from the South.
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 4 November 2017 13: 43 New
        +2
        I think many of them received insight mainly due to the results of the work of the videoconferencing system and understand that if they begin to help American terrorists, nothing will save them.
  3. Smog
    Smog 4 November 2017 08: 07 New
    15
    I understand that the Kurds decided to have a real tit in their hands in the form of autonomy in the SAR than the ghostly crane in the sky in the form of an independent Kurdistan, promised by the Americans
    1. Logall
      Logall 4 November 2017 08: 15 New
      13
      Quote: Smog
      than a ghostly crane in the sky

      The crane would be the most real, but in a very unexpected place!
      1. Smog
        Smog 4 November 2017 08: 37 New
        11
        Quote: Logall
        but in a very unexpected place!

        Iraqi has already arrived ... The place is not specified. But it seems by the glands.
    2. 73bor
      73bor 4 November 2017 08: 33 New
      +6
      Americans come and go and the Kurds still live there! Kurds are realists.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 November 2017 08: 11 New
    +2
    What, striatum, oblomingo ...? Are the natives rebelling? And you are their planes. You don’t get used to it ...
  5. izya top
    izya top 4 November 2017 08: 13 New
    +9
    Why are the Yankees puzzled? What interests do others do not want to die for?
    it’s really strange that they don’t want it what
  6. Strashila
    Strashila 4 November 2017 08: 27 New
    +3
    The Kurds are not all so smooth, the Syrian Kurds conclude from the consequences for their fellows in Iraq ... well, they were seduced by the temptation of the Americans ... and what’s the result, it became easier ... to get the stigma of the traitors of their country ... they lived and will live here, they don’t need that.
  7. Livonetc
    Livonetc 4 November 2017 08: 28 New
    +1
    Queue with determination for SSA.
    The greatest impact on them has more likely Turkey than the United States.
  8. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 4 November 2017 08: 28 New
    +4
    Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
    I read today, American instructors are draping from Syria in the literal sense of the word, throwing everything ..
    Kurds are now in a very difficult situation ..

    The Kurds are different. So they don’t fight with the SAA, I think that is the rational policy of Russia. The Russian special services are not asleep, where they are Caliber, promises and deeds proving their case.
  9. askort154
    askort154 4 November 2017 08: 30 New
    +2
    This is the final failure of the United States in Syria. There is now nothing for them to cling to there. The Kurds finally got it, and the American pyramid - a coalition from 66 countries, remained in the form of an archive list on toilet paper. good
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 4 November 2017 09: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      This is the final failure of the United States in Syria.

      The fact that the Americans in Syria will not get anything at all has long been looming,
      and they will lose and lose in the East, until they agree with Russia, and Russia needs them to fall from Ukraine.
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 5 November 2017 15: 17 New
        +1
        They will not blame themselves from Ukraine.
        Too fat trump card against Moscow.

        They can promise that they will dump and throw later ...
  10. steelmaker
    steelmaker 4 November 2017 08: 35 New
    +1
    There are more than 130 nationalities in Russia, and we do not live in war. Russia has a chance to completely take power into its own hands. Aw! Wake up Lavrov and do not scam as Ukraine!
    1. Dashout
      Dashout 4 November 2017 10: 36 New
      +3
      Lavrov comes from the UN school, therefore, he can only speak, express his concerns, concerns ...
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 5 November 2017 15: 19 New
        0
        A good diplomat always holds a big Colt% behind him)
  11. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 November 2017 08: 43 New
    +1
    "Kurdish forces refuse clashes with SAA. US puzzled ....."
    "The US actually supported the operation of the Iraqi armed forces against the Kurdish militia in Kirkuk"

    And so it happens. You eat fast food, try, but you can't sit on two chairs. Looks like the chairs are far apart.
    Not to turn on Bosko and bring the chairs closer, there was time. No, money makes everything easier. Well, scratch your bruised beloved, preoccupied (it seems that soon it will become a hallmark of the nation).
  12. Viktor.12.71
    Viktor.12.71 4 November 2017 08: 51 New
    0
    Disinformation. The Americans initially did not support the referendum on Kurdistan in Iraq, the Kurds knew about it. Either the journalist misleads people, or the translator of this material.
    1. askort154
      askort154 4 November 2017 09: 41 New
      +3
      Viktor. 12.71 ....Disinformation. The Americans initially did not support the referendum on Kurdistan in Iraq, the Kurds knew about it.

      The Americans understood that if they supported, they would lose Iraq, Turkey and the CA. The Americans decided to play in a more subtle way, promising the Kurds a federation in Syria (Turkey and the SA would agree to get at least some satisfaction from the failed attempt to overthrow Assad.) The goal of the United States is the “Kurdish Federation” in Syria, which will subsequently turn to the USA to leave its base on its territory. Bottom line: the United States remains in Syria without violating international law. yes
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 4 November 2017 09: 45 New
        10
        Quote: askort154
        The US goal is the “Kurdish Federation” in Syria which, subsequently, will turn to the US to leave its base on its territory

        Ahem ... something you turned down, IMHO, about the base ...
        Here we take, for example, the Russian Federation. Federation? Federation.
        This is Sakha-Yakutia, or whatever it is ... it doesn’t matter.
        Can this same Sakha “turn to the USA to leave its base”? Oh well ...
        Something like that, no?
        1. askort154
          askort154 4 November 2017 10: 08 New
          +4
          Golovan Jack .... Can this very Sakha “turn to the USA to leave its base”? Oh well ... Somehow, no?

          Yakutia - The Yakut Republic is a constituent entity of the Russian Federation, lives according to the constitution of the Russian Federation, where the subjects of the law do not have, to establish foreign military bases on its territory. In Syria, if the Kurds get the status of a federation, a new constitution will be adopted, and this is clearly a revision of powers.
          And there is no guarantee that they will accept an option similar to the Russian one. You are apparently young and do not know how long and painfully the last constitution of the Russian Federation was adopted. Before its adoption, the collapse of Russia was brewing. similar to the collapse of the USSR. Talked about the exit: Tatarstan, Yakutia, the Republic of the North Caucasus, and even found "willing" to create: - "Far Republic", "Republic of Siberia" and "Republic of the Urals". I apologize, but I feel ashamed not to know the history of my state, at least for the last 50-30 years. Although what am I talking about ?! Nick - Golovan Jack - speaks for itself. hi
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 4 November 2017 10: 13 New
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            Quote: askort154
            In Syria, if the Kurds get the status of a federation ...

            You confuse the pedals, IMHO.
            Either this “Kurdish Federation” will be part of federal Syria (which, in fact, has always been the case), or it will be a separate state (which, most likely, will not happen).
            In case this "Kurdish raspberries the federation "will be part of Syria, they will not have any rights to" call America ", do not go to a fortuneteller.
            After all, everything is just like ...
            Quote: askort154
            Talked about the exit: Tatarstan, Yakutia, the Republic of the North Caucasus, and even found "willing" to create: - "Far Republic", "Republic of Siberia" and "Republic of Ural"

            With EBN? I remember how it is ... "Take sovereignty, how much you take." Here the lining was, God forgive me ...
            Quote: askort154
            I apologize, but I feel ashamed not to know the history of my state, at least for the last 50-30 years

            Hasty conclusions (out of the blue) ... not a sign of great wisdom, so to speak hi
            1. askort154
              askort154 4 November 2017 10: 36 New
              +1
              Голован Джек.....After all, everything is just like.

              Everything just happens only at ....!
              It all depends on what constitution the Syrian people will adopt. And before the adoption of such a constitution, it is necessary:
              -to end hostilities in the country;
              - hold elections of power:
              - form the institutions of power:
              - adopt a constitution.
              Losing the Americans, they are trying to keep the “Syrian opposition” under their control, feverishly saturating it now with the “disadvantages” of the CCA, so that through this “opposition” they can influence all political processes in post-war Syria. Including the adoption of a new constitution. Therefore, they put the “Kurdish theme” at the forefront. By betting on them more than on the "opposition". But the Syrian Kurds began to realize that the Americans would "throw" them like Iraqi. Today’s US policy on BV (and not only) is “an elephant in a china shop”, banal, but real., yes
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 4 November 2017 12: 05 New
                +9
                Quote: askort154
                Everything just happens only at ....!

                In life always everything is either simple or very simple.
                Usually, either those who are paid for it or those who, ahem ... misunderstand something like to put a shadow on the fence.
                Quote: askort154
                Americans are losing, trying to hold ... feverishly saturating ... put at the forefront ... "an elephant in a china shop",,

                Hmm ... Cap, you? laughing
                Quote: askort154
                trite but real

                More commonplace, though. Everything that you voiced here has already been imposed on your teeth ... there wouldn’t be a new interesting thread to say ...
                Phe negative
                1. askort154
                  askort154 4 November 2017 12: 20 New
                  +2
                  Голован Джек....More still commonplace. Everything that you voiced here has already been imposed on your teeth ... there wouldn’t be a new interesting thread to say ...
                  Phe negative


                  Familiar to the edge of the nose. Khokhlyatsky reception. When there are no well-reasoned arguments, they start yelling:
                  - it is not true;
                  is propaganda:
                  - these are soviet slogans;
                  - imposed on teeth
                  Etc., etc. until blue, but essentially a donut hole. tongue
                  I am already sorry that I entered into a dialogue, dropping to such a level. yes
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 4 November 2017 13: 40 New
                    10
                    Quote: askort154
                    When there are no reasoned arguments ...

                    What, to the raven, of your "arguments"?
                    You retold the fact that a million times already frayed, chewed, swallowed and digested.
                    The only thing that interested me was the “thought” about the “Kurdish federation” and the Amer base in it.
                    This, IMHO, nonsense, as he could - justified.
                    Quote: askort154
                    Khokhlyat Reception

                    Yes, I somehow exactly what you think about me and me ... Cap laughing
                  2. sogdy
                    sogdy 6 November 2017 14: 24 New
                    0
                    Quote: askort154
                    It all depends on what constitution the Syrian people will adopt.

                    So who told you that Syria does not have a constitution? You still have doubts7
  13. svyadomayamrazskaka2018
    svyadomayamrazskaka2018 4 November 2017 09: 07 New
    +1
    It was necessary before the Kurds to cut the American fagots, so as not to stir up.
  14. svyadomayamrazskaka2018
    svyadomayamrazskaka2018 4 November 2017 09: 11 New
    +4
    How many times will you see the American pedic, how many times and kill him.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 4 November 2017 09: 19 New
    +1
    The game with Kurds for Americans was very problematic right away. All neighboring countries immediately turned up against the Kurds and the main US ally in the region sent troops to Syria. The Turks are not interested in Assad and his army, the Turks are interested in Kurds.
    This direction was played by the Americans due to the lack of leverage in the region. I doubt that they had a strategic plan
  16. Herculesic
    Herculesic 4 November 2017 09: 24 New
    0
    It’s too early to rejoice, as if it hadn’t happened that the Kurds didn’t make a diabolical alliance with the Isils, and with their hands did not expand their territory of residence! Now it’s a very real old union that is being sold out, new ones are urgently being created in order to prevent Syria from remaining a single state.
  17. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 4 November 2017 09: 45 New
    0
    Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
    If the Kurds really stop at the borders of "autonomy", then after the complete liberation of Deir ez-Zor by the forces of the CAA, the group of ISIL (* forbidden in the Russian Federation) near the Syrian-Iraq border can finally be completed.

    They have long gone beyond the limits of their autonomy ... the article is continuous propaganda
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 November 2017 10: 09 New
    +1
    USA puzzled ...

    Many more "surprises" await the Americans, and not only in Syria and not only from the Kurds. Some countries today would sing: "Goodbye America ...", but so far they are afraid.
  19. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 4 November 2017 11: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: rotmistr60
    USA puzzled ...

    Many more "surprises" await the Americans, and not only in Syria and not only from the Kurds. Some countries today would sing: "Goodbye America ...", but so far they are afraid.

    Nothing, the RF with the SAR will help them find the right melody and the best reason will be to complete the rout of all kinds of “children” of the Western coalition in the BV, completing the ousting of the FSA from the BV. This will be a real help to entrepreneur Trump in his efforts to draw attention to affairs inside the FSA, which will help 3rd world countries breathe more freely. And most importantly, it will help the Russian Federation end the war in the Donbass and engage in reformatting the outskirts in its favor. hi
  20. vasilkovichi
    vasilkovichi 4 November 2017 11: 23 New
    +3
    Apart from being a specialist, I think that the Kurds hoped, with US support, to replace IG.NO! The words from the song: “My address is not a house or a street ...” come up to the IG. If something happens, they break loose and dissolve around the world .And the address of the Kurds is well known to everyone, and the price of the American word is also the same. It is easier to deliver parcels to a well-known address, which Russia will generously supply to those who want to deliver them. Moreover, the Kurds finally realized that even if the states would like to contain a word, then even they will not dare to shout against Russia, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey at the same time!
  21. Al Bychkov
    Al Bychkov 4 November 2017 12: 22 New
    0
    Quote: askort154
    Голован Джек.....After all, everything is just like.

    Everything just happens only at ....!
    It all depends on what constitution the Syrian people will adopt. And before the adoption of such a constitution, it is necessary:
    -to end hostilities in the country;
    - hold elections of power:
    - form the institutions of power:
    - adopt a constitution.
    Losing the Americans, they are trying to keep the “Syrian opposition” under their control, feverishly saturating it now with the “disadvantages” of the CCA, so that through this “opposition” they can influence all political processes in post-war Syria. Including the adoption of a new constitution. Therefore, they put the “Kurdish theme” at the forefront. By betting on them more than on the "opposition". But the Syrian Kurds began to realize that the Americans would "throw" them like Iraqi. Today’s US policy on BV (and not only) is “an elephant in a china shop”, banal, but real., yes

    everything is much simpler, now igil is enemy number 1, the next will be Kurds, if they become impudent, and they understand this, therefore they started to roll back ☺
  22. Going
    Going 4 November 2017 12: 43 New
    +9
    “SDS, consisting mainly of Kurds, do not plan to fight against the Syrian people and capture Palmyra and Damascus, while the Kurds will fight for their rights, including with weapons in their hands.


    The United States does not want to study history, and then it is surprised.
  23. chidoryan
    chidoryan 4 November 2017 12: 49 New
    +2
    Sorry for the Kurds. Personally, I would be with all arms and legs for Russia to support them. This is the only socialist force in the Middle East. And we crush them. Come to your senses. Kurds are a good alternative to local authoritarian traditionalists and Islamists. You definitely don’t expect good from these.
  24. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 4 November 2017 13: 02 New
    0
    Autonization of compact Kurdish residence is not a bad option for the Syrian government.
  25. marlin1203
    marlin1203 4 November 2017 14: 35 New
    +1
    Quote: alexmach
    Forgive me, but in my opinion, of all the forces operating in Syria, the Kurds are somehow doing better than everyone else. In their territories they managed to resist the barmaley. In a long civil war, they suffered less than other Syrian regions. With weakness

    Kurds - light infantry, partisans, in fact. If the government army of the SAR falls on them with tanks, artillery and aircraft, and even in Iraq they will also give it, then their "strong negotiating position" will fade.
  26. Magorkiy
    Magorkiy 4 November 2017 16: 20 New
    +1
    Americans, with their dough, are not naive. I think that not everything is so simple. They still show themselves, not to blink. I hate them, but I have to respect their brains.
  27. lukewarm
    lukewarm 4 November 2017 17: 09 New
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    The Kurds were on the way with the Americans for the time being, now the paths diverge. It is unlikely that they are so naive as to sincerely believe in the disinterested help of the United States. Let's see if the Kurds manage to "jump off". It is likely that if they remain without US support, they will be beaten by everyone, including former sponsors. Perhaps their leaders put a voiced coin in the form of green paper in their pocket))). In any case, what they fought for (their state), IMHO, floats away from them. Assad does not need it, for Erdogan - a nightmare. US Kurds have all shown what they could. Nah yes.
  28. Uncle Sam
    Uncle Sam 4 November 2017 21: 39 New
    +1
    The Kurds have one ally. These are the mountains of Kurdistan. They live and fight on their land. If someone thinks about Deir ez-Zor that it’s not their land, because in the Second World War the USSR did not stop in Brest too, but finished off the Nazis in Berlin. So what is the difference between ISIS and Fascist Germany?
    It’s not for us to teach the Kurds how to fight.
    The Russian Federation, the USA, Iran, Turkey and other countries have their own selfish interests. The Kurds are in a national liberation war, contrary to the interests of other countries. Each of these countries will then be friends, then betray the Kurds. And in this Russian Federation is no exception.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 4 November 2017 21: 50 New
      +7
      Quote: Uncle Sam
      Kurds have a national liberation war, contrary to the interests of other countries

      In other words, the Kurds are now dangling like ... a flower in the hole, and it is already beginning to reach the smartest of them that it is unwise to shout against everyone. So?
      Quote: Uncle Sam
      The Russian Federation, the USA, Iran, Turkey and other countries have their own selfish interests.

      Ay ma-ok-tsa !!
      Fat, dear. Unlike all the others, the Russian Federation is there "by invitation", the others - "did not wait for us - we pinned down."
      Feel the difference, and try not to list “comma-separated” more. And then they will laugh at you ...
      Quote: Uncle Sam
      Each of these countries will then be friends, then betray the Kurds

      It will be, it will ... The Kurds will be friends, dance ... And nefig climb into non-children’s games. The Kurds ... got bogged down (Borzani - isn't it theirs? Well, here ...), and now they are deservedly raking. No?
      Quote: Uncle Sam
      And in this Russian Federation is no exception

      And why should the Russian Federation be the "exception"? The "world system of socialism" was built by the USSR (more precisely, the senile people who headed the USSR). System failed request
      The current RF is not the USSR, and does not repeat the mistakes of those times. Kurds? Yes, and a bolt on them. There is a country, it has its own interests ...
      Like this yes
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 5 November 2017 10: 15 New
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        . Unlike all others, the Russian Federation is there "by invitation", the others - "did not wait for us - we pinned
        Well, invitations like the legitimate leadership of Afghanistan do not resemble anything?
        Just admit that YES ... The Russian Federation has and MUST have its own interests, especially in the Dnieper and Efrat ...
        1. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 5 November 2017 10: 33 New
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          And yes ... The main, in the future, Kremlin senile, L.I. Brezhnev, may he take down Red Square in fluff, who saw the War with his own eyes, did not want to drag the Country and the boys into a new one ...
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 6 November 2017 14: 33 New
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      Quote: Uncle Sam
      The Kurds have one ally. These are the mountains of Kurdistan. They live and fight on their land.

      Where did the firewood come from?
      Stray Kurds were planted on land that they never needed.
      Really, you still take care of Tuareg rights.
  29. padded jacket
    padded jacket 4 November 2017 21: 44 New
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    Quote: article
    Kurdish forces refuse clashes with SAA

    Syrian Kurds are primarily citizens of Syria, so why should they fight with the army of their own country.
    Therefore, this is undoubtedly a wise decision.
  30. Cynic
    Cynic 5 November 2017 07: 31 New
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    The idea of ​​"Great Kurdistan" hangs over the region like the Sword of Damocles ...
    Not all Kurds will be able to realize that the Yusovites are helping them not for its implementation.
  31. SergF123
    SergF123 5 November 2017 17: 01 New
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    If all goes well, and the Kurdish autonomy stops within its borders, then the filthy mattress will be thrown out of Syria in 2 to two weeks along with their IG miscarriages !!!