Bulgaria is ready to purchase dismantled MiG-29 from Hungary

Unexpected messages come from Bulgaria. The information portal Burgas.ru, citing the research firm DSIA (Defense Security Intelligence Analysis), reports that the Bulgarian Defense Ministry has decided to participate in an auction for the purchase of MiG-29 fighters from Hungary. We are talking about 23 fighters of Soviet and Russian production, which Budapest has prepared for implementation. Fighters are planned to be disassembled.

In total, Bulgaria intends to buy from Hungary 1,2 thousand various parts of MiG-29 aircraft, including 20 aviation engines.

According to the latest information, the auction for the purchase of disassembled fighters will be held on November 14-16.

The information draws particular attention to the fact that the Bulgarian authorities had previously declared it inappropriate to operate the existing MiG-29. In the country's press, it was stated that the Bulgarian pilots refuse to perform training flights on the MiG-29, since the aircraft do not undergo proper maintenance and necessary scheduled repairs.

Apparently, the Bulgarian Air Force has certain types of Hungarian spare parts for MiG-29 precisely in terms of carrying out repair work.

Earlier it was reported that Bulgaria intends to purchase used fighters of Swedish production. This information is not yet confirmed.

Comments

[assa67]

Well, a preppy house! ..... the little brothers will buy the details ... will they be able to install something themselves? Or will they ask for pscheks?

[zivXP]

I hope they looked on the watch for the necessary details?

[Partyzan]

Quote: assa67

Well, a preppy house! ..... the little brothers will buy the details ... will they be able to install something themselves? Or will they ask for pscheks?

and no one gave a license to third-party repair

[assa67]

the Bulgarians refused our service, arguing that Poland is cheaper ... who is asking us right now? the mattress master rules everything

[Partyzan]

Quote: assa67

the Bulgarians refused our service, arguing that Poland is cheaper ... who is asking us right now? the mattress master rules everything

here you are wrong - for Poland this is fraught with the loss of a license to repair your own fleet and not getting spare parts

[assa67]

it’s hard to say ... we handed out a lot of licenses to the Warsaw Pact countries .... but for spare parts, yes, an interesting question .... they’ll buy from the Hungarians if that

[Partyzan]

deprivation of a license to repair - it is fraught with an international court and heavy fines

[assa67]

but the question of repairing aircraft in Poland really was .... why it didn’t grow together, I don’t know .. maybe you’re right, they were scared of the nobleman ... or they lost their qualifications

[Partyzan]

MIG threatened them, and the question was closed

[WUA 518]

Quote: assa67

why did not grow together

Yes, in 3 years there will be 10 years since they are in Kecskemét.

[assa67]

.... this is not to reanimate them

[LiSiCyn]

Alexander, I welcome you !! Below, I had a debate about whether the Kurds could have pilots for MiGs?

[den3080]

take it higher! Bulgarians will ask Kaklov to repair decommissioned Mig-29
and Hungarians would have to arrange a flea market, which were many in Russia before: we sell spare parts from disassembled foreign cars

[Paranoid50]

Quote: assa67

Well, a plague house! ..... Brothers will buy the details ..

So here it is - international air cannibalism.

[73bor]

They can install it, only then with a file it will be necessary to finalize it!

[pvv113]

Forget about pshek. Now in fashion Ukrainian aircraft repair. There Croatia was left without the Air Force. We are waiting for the next sucker

[pytar]

Do you really think that the Bulgarian MiG and 30 years were repaired by RSK? Most of the writers here don't make a difference between REPAIRS и MODERNIZATION! This post is about buying aircraft for parts for ремонт Bulgarian MiG-29. They will continue to be repaired in Bulgarian workshops until the end of their service life. Some parts from Hungarian MiGs can probably be used. Here is the whole situation. Modernization fell away as a variant, as the Bulgarian authorities intend to acquire new fighters. As for the Poles, the WZL-2 and WZL-4 plants used to offer modernization activities, for which there is no need to ask RSK for permissions. 95% of the package that the Poles suggested is done with the Polish units and according to the Polish documentation. For 20 years they have been upgrading MiGs in different configurations, without any problems. Israel also makes very successful upgrades to Soviet fighters, according to its documentation, accepting all warranty obligations on itself. And the fact that DGC raised the media hype in due time, is so ... to discredit a competitor. Fine.

[Logall]

The Bulgarians, with the entry into NATO and the EU, lost: self-identity, identity, the right to self-determination, as well as the right to self-defense ...
Conclusion: they do not need airplanes. ''Like a fish needs a bicycle?''

[Solomon Kane]

Sanya! Be healthy!
About 10 days ago, there was an article on the VO that Bulgarians refuse to fly in the 29s,
What is causing such interest now ...?

[Logall]

There are two options:
1) - for spare parts, to repair their own.
2) - for Bandera ...
Hi Kostya!
Do you even watch mail sometimes?

[Solomon Kane]

La, San, went to work, in the "park"
And I gave a small laptop, she now commands

[Pete mitchell]

Logal Do not mind if I do a little plagiarism?
Eastern European and Baltic countries ..

Quote: Logall

... with the entry into NATO and the EU, they lost: self-identity, identity, the right to self-determination, as well as the right to self-defense ...
Conclusion: they do not need airplanes. ''Like a fish needs a bicycle?''

[aszzz888]

... something "bros" muddied ... obviously ...

[LiSiCyn]

Yes, "shove" further .. Bulgaria, the main supplier of weapons for the "bearded" boys. How many have they already grabbed ?! !! And nothing .. It’s as if that’s right ..

[Partyzan]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Bulgaria, the main supplier of weapons for bearded boys.

but are there pilots? or just suicide bombers?

[LiSiCyn]

And what do you think of the Kurds? Than not bearded boys.

[Partyzan]

I think not, unless a kamikaze

[LiSiCyn]

You think our Kurds have only been taught guerrilla action. It would be necessary for a friend to interest whom they did not learn in Tokmak ...

[Partyzan]

But I didn’t even hear that the Kurds would have aviation, and ceased to be friends with Iraq for a long time, when he went under the mattresses

[LiSiCyn]

Well, so the Kurds in 4 countries live (compactly) and with three, besides Turkey, we at one time worked very tightly .. And with one, it’s still very tight ... Do you think in Syria Is there a flight school? And who are Syrian pilots by nationality?

[Partyzan]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Well, so the Kurds in 4 countries live (compactly) and with three, besides Turkey, we at one time worked very tightly .. And with one, it’s still very tight ... Do you think in Syria Is there a flight school? And who are Syrian pilots by nationality?

So Bulgaria will not vapidate its rubbish in Syria, Syria will take it from Russia, and even with a guarantee, and the rest, if they studied, without practice, they will only be suicide bombers

[LiSiCyn]

You, again, "do not look at the root" .. I, that pilots can be .. And the lack of practice ... Who knows, maybe at this moment, somewhere in Nevada, they get this practice !?

[Partyzan]

Quote: LiSiCyn

You, again, "do not look at the root" .. I, that pilots can be .. And the lack of practice ... Who knows, maybe at this moment, somewhere in Nevada, they get this practice !?

and the Pentagon will break through 29 more conveniently, I never thought

[LiSiCyn]

He was interested in .. Under him, there were Afghans, Libyans and Yemenis. Moreover, both northern and southern

[alatanas]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Bulgaria, the main supplier of weapons for bearded boys

If, so long ago they had nothing to shoot from nothing. Bulgaria is a small country, and there are many "bearded" ones.

[LiSiCyn]

Oh ... Bulgaria, as the main intermediary and transit country, is a fact. And so yes, except for you, there all the former "subordinate" friends, in the Warsaw block, were noted. And even the "relatives", in the form of ukrov ...

[alatanas]

Officially sold to two Amerani firms and OAR, to be precise.

[LiSiCyn]

Of course ... And it pops up at the "barmaley". What are not good mattresses, they said that they had deceived themselves ... And so, 30 times.

[alatanas]

How is it that all Russian weapons “pop up” only where it was officially sold?
Do not tell please.

[Going]

We are talking about 23 fighters of Soviet and Russian production, which Budapest prepared for implementation.

Well, tenders were announced yesterday, and today there are already buyers.

[axiles100682]

Quote: aszzz888

... something "bros" muddied ... obviously ...

Why are you muddied up? We looked at the price of used Shvetsky letaki and were horrified. We decided that we should buy spare parts for MIGs and diapers for flyers.

[Piramidon]

Quote: axiles100682

... and diapers to flyers.

Guys, how long can I procrastinate the topic of "diapers"? A joke repeated several times - it looks silly. Already sick of such "jokes." Not funny, beaten, stupid - after all.

[Topotun]

Why? Would order repairs in Ukraine. They will do at once ....

[Sergei75]

Maybe Bulgaria needs something simpler, and not supersonic fighters, why are they for them, the country is small, they can’t do anything with them, maybe piston fighters are better for them.

[Thracian warrior]

Repair if all players are normal- it is necessary to carry out MiG.
Why and who put pressure on the MiG insanely expensive offer for repair, you can figure it out yourself.

Well, understandably, all the same, your commander-in-chief has appointed an enemy, NATO, and will scare you for many years to come, your voice is for you, for the oligarch, five more years of stuffing your pockets.

[APASUS]

Bulgaria is a laying country through which the powers that be are fueling the armaments of terrorists. Why the Bulgarians of the Migi and where they will find themselves later is not entirely clear, but I think that most likely this is Ukraine. Because the bases for operation and the presence of pilots, and most importantly the military there is no conflict for this type of weapon in the immediate environment.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Earlier it was reported that Bulgaria intends to purchase used fighters of Swedish production. This information is not yet confirmed.

By no means.

In pursuit of geopolitical benefits, the ruling elite of Bulgaria is constantly serving the United States, seeking to please its interests. And at the same time, it is official Sofia that continues to pursue its Russophobic policy.

Despite economic difficulties, the Bulgarian government back in April of this year approved the protocol of an interagency working group proposing to purchase Swedish fighters
for the Bulgarian Air Force. The cost of new aircraft was lower than competitors such as the F-16A / B (Block 15) and the Eurofighter Typhoon, which were in operation. The total contract value was 510 million euros for eight fighters.

http://news24today.info/sovremennyy-oblik-vvs-bol
garii-antirossiyskaya-politika-i-obnovlenie-boevo
y-aviatsii.html

[pytar]

The article you are linking to is very informative as an example of propaganda! But alright ... Let's leave her on the side! She is not worth the time spent reading her. Let's move away from the political component of the problem! Back to purely technical! Suppose the Bulgarian authorities hold an unbiased open tender for purchases new single-engine light fighter! What can Russia offer in this class on the market now?

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Quote: pytar

Back to purely technical! Suppose the Bulgarian authorities hold an unbiased open tender for purchases new single-engine light fighter! What can Russia offer in this class on the market now?

Yak-130 for example, just like a light fighter:

Yak-130 (according to NATO classification: Mitten - mitten) - UBS combat trainer created in OKB im. Yakovleva in collaboration with the Italian company Aermacchi. The aircraft is designed to replace the obsolete L-39 training aircraft in the Russian Air Force. During the development process, collaboration with Italians was suspended due to disagreements, and each of the companies implemented their own concept.
The closest foreign analogue, practically the brother of the Russian aircraft, is the Italian M-346, which was originally developed jointly by the Design Bureau named after Yakovleva and the Italian company L'Alenia Aermacchi. At the final stage of the project, the parties had unsolvable disagreements, and they stopped joint development. As a result, each of the 2 companies received full technical documentation for the basic version of the future aircraft (glider). After that, their own UBS models were released. Moreover, for Italian UBS M-346 rights to marketing and distribution around the world remained except for the CIS, including Russia. The market of the CIS countries is completely given to the Russian Yak-130.

https://topwar.ru/22590-yak-130-i-ego-blizhayshie
-relatives.html

The Italian "flying school desk" became a fighter. Leonardo held its first public demonstration of the M-346FA, Warspot reports with reference to flightglobal.com
Leonardo says the M-346FA can be used as an aircraft for training combat pilots, as well as a light fighter or reconnaissance aircraft.

https://topwar.ru/118430-italyancy-prezentovali-l
egkiy-istrebitel-m-346fa.html
Both articles with VO, so that you do not rage in impotent rage ...
However, I think the Russian Federation after the South Stream, besides plastic bags, is unlikely to offer you anything ...

[pytar]

Have you read the linked links? MOSKVITYANIN I’ve been at VO a few years earlier than you and have read a lot of things, what's new for you ... Yak-130– combat training aircraft. Likely on its buzz, OKB "Yakovlev" could develop a light fighter class Grippen, F-16 and JF-17. Radar, supersonic, etc., but this is a question for experts. Such a large-scale redesign of aircraft construction, originally created for the UT, will probably be more expensive than creating a new target aircraft from scratch.

Both articles with VO, so that you do not rage in impotent rage ...

It is not in my character. I am strong, but no-brainer. Why are you nervous?

However, I think the Russian Federation after the South Stream, besides plastic bags, is unlikely to offer you anything ...

You can think anything.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

YAK-130 was created jointly with Italians, why with us it cannot be converted to a light fighter, but for Italians, provided that it is almost the same plane, the same thing happened when creating the Alpha Jet, some had UBS, others have an attack aircraft ...
[quote] The article to which you link, very informative as an example of propaganda! But alright ... Let's leave her on the side! She is not worth the time spent reading her. [/ quote]
[quote] [You can think anything. / quote]
Why the hell should I talk to you then

[pytar]

Why argue? “Can I remake or not” the Yak-130 into a lightweight destroyer like the M-346FA ?! Well, not redone. In addition, the M-346FA is not a supersonic fighter of the Gripen class, which is successfully exploited in several countries. And not only the quality of the machine itself will determine the choice. This whole complex is a very costly event! For example, the SAAB offer provides 100% offset / return / investment in the Bulgarian economy. Leasing conditions are important, etc. etc. You don’t buy a car, after all!

Why the hell should I talk to you then

It’s true that it’s difficult for me to communicate with someone who writes this:

However, I think the Russian Federation ... besides plastic bags, I’m unlikely to offer anything ...

Here, in general, the word "think", as it stands still ...