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Zakharchenko called the condition of the accession of the DPR to Russia

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The self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) will become part of Russia when the international situation changes in favor of Moscow. This opinion was expressed on a straight line by the head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko, the transcript was published on his official Online.


Zakharchenko called the condition of the accession of the DPR to Russia


As Zakharchenko believes, the entry into another state is always a two-way movement:

Today neither we nor Russia are ready for this. Let's not fool ourselves. The beginning of such a process would lead to an incredible escalation of international tensions, and not so much around us (there is enough here and so - people die almost every day), as around Russia


According to the head of the DPR, “if the international balance changes in favor of Russia, she herself” will offer the self-proclaimed republic “coexistence options”.

Zakharchenko in May stated that the republic was aimed at joining Russia, following the example of the Crimea. Recall that he previously reported that the restoration of the territorial integrity of the DPR will take place at the right historical moment and with minimal losses.

Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics were proclaimed in the spring of 2014 after the independence referendums. In April of the same year, Kiev announced a military operation in these regions.
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  1. Don
    Don 2 November 2017 18: 19 New
    14
    As history shows, everything is possible in our world. Since the forecast for the collapse of Ukraine will not be realized soon, time is playing in Ukraine today. On their own, LDNR in such a suspended state cannot exist for a long time, so it will soon be necessary to decide whether to attach or to tear Kiev to pieces.
    1. volodya
      volodya 2 November 2017 18: 31 New
      +6
      Quote: Donskoy
      As history shows, everything is possible in our world

      But the West, including Poland, would have been delighted with this! Immediately they would tear the remains to pieces! Down everything is ready, waiting only for an opportunity!
      1. volodya
        volodya 2 November 2017 18: 45 New
        +1
        I write "they" get "down", what is it?
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 2 November 2017 20: 09 New
        13
        Quote: volodya
        But the West, including Poland, would have been delighted with this! Would immediately tear the leftovers to pieces!


        It's time to understand for a long time ... Despite the seeming inaction and some kind of inertia of Russia, it will not give up not only the territories of the LPR-DPR ... There are still many Russian territories ... And for the Poles there are not only modern Susanins ... Their Wishlist "from mozh to mozh" are scattered ...
        1. Tanyagoga50
          Tanyagoga50 3 November 2017 13: 12 New
          +2
          That’s for sure, the Lyakhov’s Wishlist has always been higher than opportunities, and Russia will not give up its territories
      3. Maksus
        Maksus 2 November 2017 22: 41 New
        +5
        God forbid this happens. We already have a lot of problems, in order to accept the DNI. Only under conditions of complete independence of the region.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 3 November 2017 05: 55 New
          14
          Once again I regret that there are no "minuses"
        2. skarl
          skarl 3 November 2017 08: 17 New
          14
          And this is said by the person who hung the Finnish flag .... It’s not for you sir to decide who to accept and who not ... Donbass can not only feed itself and provide (unlike Crimea) ... Donbass needs the world , and not the Russian treasury, but only Russia can provide peace ...
          1. forty-eighth
            forty-eighth 3 November 2017 08: 42 New
            +2
            What didn’t you like? Words about the independence of the DPR? So the situation is equal to Abkhazia and South Ossetia, nothing humiliating. Why do you run for no reason?
          2. Maksus
            Maksus 3 November 2017 08: 47 New
            +2
            Yes, as much as possible about these flags, they are automatically assigned as soon as you find yourself in the country. And last month I had Spanish, what should I go to sombrero now?
        3. CT-55_11-9009
          CT-55_11-9009 3 November 2017 09: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Maksus
          We already have a lot of problems, so that the DNI can accept.

          With all due respect to the Finns, do you have a common border with the DPR?
          1. Maksus
            Maksus 3 November 2017 10: 59 New
            +2
            * la ((((you at least read what is written above.
        4. Yugra
          Yugra 8 November 2017 21: 15 New
          0
          Go to work, it’s good to whine! Have you even given a penny to the wounded children of Donbass?
      4. zhekazs
        zhekazs 2 November 2017 23: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: volodya
        Quote: Donskoy
        As history shows, everything is possible in our world

        But the West, including Poland, would have been delighted with this! Immediately they would tear the remains to pieces! Down everything is ready, waiting only for an opportunity!


        Poland? Yeah, wait, they wouldn’t tear a little dog-poland for something, it’s only after us .. That is, after the return of the Russian territories that were abroad Russia. Time to collect stones.
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN 2 November 2017 18: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: Donskoy
      give Kiev to be torn to pieces.

      GDP said "no way," I hope so. From here the conclusion is that it is not so far to solve the problem ..., I hope.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 2 November 2017 18: 47 New
        +4
        I doubt that the solution to the problem will be soon. In any case, the regime in Kiev will crap, drag and pull again
        Maybe after the election of the chief there something will change.
        Quote: NIKNN
        Quote: Donskoy
        give Kiev to be torn to pieces.

        GDP said "no way," I hope so. From here the conclusion is that it is not so far to solve the problem ..., I hope.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 2 November 2017 18: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          regime in Kiev will crap, pull and pull again

          Well, there can be no doubt at all about this, but it simply cannot be left forever. request
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 2 November 2017 20: 13 New
            +8
            Quote: NIKNN
            Well, there can’t be any doubt about it at all, but you just can’t leave her forever


            Zakharchenko, in general, correctly said: it’s too early to join (accept) the structure of Russia because of the international strain ...
            However, it seems to me that a little more Kiev will increase military pressure on the LPR-DPR, then a sharp take of the republics under its wing is possible ... Anyway, we are "aggressors and are waging war in the Donbas" ... So then it will be ours (albeit an unrecognized territory) ...
            But the stench and problems will be - a lot ...
            1. olegyurjewitch
              olegyurjewitch 2 November 2017 21: 49 New
              +8
              Quote: weksha50
              But there will be stinks and problems - a ton

              The stink will be carried by the wind, we will solve the problems, not in the first.
            2. Ivan Ivanov
              Ivan Ivanov 2 November 2017 23: 44 New
              +4
              Quote: weksha50
              it’s too early because of the international strain ...

              It’s interesting when it will be “just right” and what the Russian Federation is doing to overcome it. where / what are the prospects
              1. weksha50
                weksha50 3 November 2017 11: 24 New
                0
                Quote: IvanIvanov
                It’s interesting when it will be “just right” and what the Russian Federation is doing to overcome it. where / what are the prospects


                Address this question to the president, to the prime minister, to the speaker of the State Duma, finally ... hi
            3. Tanyagoga50
              Tanyagoga50 3 November 2017 13: 33 New
              +1
              We can’t get used to the stench and problems; from the West, the whole history of Russia draws stench, and what, now leave your own?
        2. Pirogov
          Pirogov 2 November 2017 19: 16 New
          +8
          Quote: 210ox
          I doubt that the solution to the problem will be soon. In any case, the regime in Kiev will crap, drag and pull again
          Maybe after the election of the chief there something will change.

          And what can change after the election? If GDP would like to have long resolved this issue.
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 2 November 2017 20: 06 New
        +4
        Quote: NIKNN
        GDP said

        He is not eternal. The patient will achieve the fulfillment of desires, while the hasty one will stumble and fall.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 2 November 2017 20: 25 New
          +4
          Quote: revnagan
          The patient will achieve the fulfillment of desires, while the hasty one will stumble and fall.

          All right! I support. hi
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 2 November 2017 19: 31 New
      51
      I look here a lot has been written about the impoverished Donbass and the fact that Russia will not bear the second Crimea.

      If Donbass returns to Russia, then we will become one of the 5 regions of the donors. We gave 12,5 billion dollars (not hryvnia, namely currency) to the budget of Ukraine. And this is with corruption and how much went into offshore.
      Recently launched the UMZ (Yuzovsky Metallurgical Plant), and it was necessary to restore the open-hearth furnaces. So he has already reached 300 million rubles a year.
      On November 4, we launch the Makeevka Metallurgical Plant.
      For half a year, 50 large enterprises were returned to operation. Salary arrears were paid by 110 million rubles.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 2 November 2017 19: 45 New
        23
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Recently launched the UMZ (Yuzovsky Metallurgical Plant), and it was necessary to restore the open-hearth furnaces. So he has already reached 300 million rubles a year.
        On November 4, we launch the Makeevka Metallurgical Plant.
        For half a year, 50 large enterprises were returned to operation. Salary arrears were paid by 110 million rubles.

        No need to explain anything, Sergey, we are one people, that’s enough!
        Together we are stronger, not lost. yes
        1. Tanyagoga50
          Tanyagoga50 3 November 2017 13: 36 New
          +2
          That's right !! The most important thing is that we are one people
      2. the most important
        the most important 2 November 2017 20: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        I look here a lot has been written about the impoverished Donbass and the fact that Russia will not bear the second Crimea.

        Do not read stupid things! You should not waste time on the senile!
      3. Babalaykin
        Babalaykin 2 November 2017 21: 03 New
        0
        I would not say in that vein that corruption used to be, and so on, but now I’m going to trample it. not the fact that it will not be, or will be to a lesser extent. but positive trends are outlined.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 2 November 2017 21: 04 New
          +5
          And I didn’t say this, we still have corruption. Mostly where Ukrainian officials remained.
          1. Babalaykin
            Babalaykin 4 November 2017 15: 33 New
            +1
            Because the new ones have not yet been used to, and in the current difficult situation, it is simply dangerous to do this, because they can not just plant, but can actually put them to the wall.
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 4 November 2017 15: 47 New
              0
              Absolutely right! Hope that the new will be afraid, at least for less than six months. And then they need to be changed.
              1. Babalaykin
                Babalaykin 7 November 2017 17: 14 New
                0
                The main thing here is to understand in time who, where and when to shoot. Everything should be smooth. Too ideological and correct from our point of view, are not needed now, they are being eliminated.
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 7 November 2017 17: 23 New
                  0
                  That they are there ideological and correct. We are such ideological ones. Against corruption and so on. But we do not interfere with the authorities, as well as those who died from terrorist attacks.
                  1. Babalaykin
                    Babalaykin 7 November 2017 18: 37 New
                    0
                    We need to learn from their mistakes, not to interfere, but to keep our thoughts in order on this score ... and one day the time will come when they will interfere with us.
      4. demo
        demo 2 November 2017 21: 28 New
        +3
        You are great!
        Keep it up.
      5. hamkan
        hamkan 2 November 2017 21: 32 New
        0
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        If Donbass returns to Russia, then we will become one of the 5 regions of the donors. We gave 12,5 billion dollars (not hryvnia, namely currency) to the budget of Ukraine.

        With that kind of money, you kind of could live in chocolate yourself
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Recently launched the UMZ (Yuzovsky Metallurgical Plant), and it was necessary to restore the open-hearth furnaces. So he has already left nand 300 million rubles a year.

        50 million dollars? Is it profit or turnover?
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 2 November 2017 22: 21 New
          +2
          This is the net profit from the first orders. In general, it was just launched and a power of 10%.
          1. Hammerlock
            Hammerlock 3 November 2017 05: 32 New
            +2
            HAMkan is never an economist, only a writer
            1. R-140
              R-140 3 November 2017 06: 33 New
              +1
              Yes woof .... to him and not the scribbler.
        2. forty-eighth
          forty-eighth 3 November 2017 08: 47 New
          0
          Quote: hamkan
          50 million dollars?

          5 million dollars.
      6. zhekazs
        zhekazs 2 November 2017 23: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        impoverished Donbass

        If Russia had annexed the Donbass, the region would, after some time and investment in production, a certain impetus to the development of the economy of Russia itself. Metal production and energy for its production in one place + the presence of an extensive supply chain from the Russian Federation ... Yes, even for export. The region is promising. In our government, the fifth column is preventing the right decision. And so, we hope the majority is for YOU! Hang on guys.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 3 November 2017 00: 58 New
          +6
          Thanks for understanding the question. We have not only metal and energy, but we also produce rare earth materials, precious metals and other raw materials. In addition to this, we make mountain harvesters, which are used all over the world. Pipes for gas and oil transportation system. In Lugansk, the largest ammunition factory in Europe, which, in addition to modern hunting cartridges, also produces orders for the army and special forces.
          1. I am against lies
            I am against lies 6 November 2017 11: 02 New
            0
            and you saw with your own eyes this very-BIGGEST FACTORY IN EUROPE? 90% of the territory .. it's ruins .. not from war .. from mismanagement !! one workshop works .. Everything is so nice to patriotic comments .. yes that's just a poor man ..and doesn’t live .. survives !!!!!!!!!
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 6 November 2017 11: 22 New
              +1
              I know that it is destroyed and I wrote what kind of pensions. 2600 + 5% supplement 130 rubles. And I know what salaries it is good if 8500, and more often 4500.
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 3 November 2017 02: 03 New
          +6
          Quote: zhekazs
          If Russia had annexed the Donbass, the region would, after some time and investment in production, a certain impetus to the development of the economy of Russia itself. Metal production and energy for its production in one place + the presence of an extensive supply chain from the Russian Federation ... Yes, even for export.

          all of you listed would ideally happen !!! Svidamye over also thought that maydanet in '14 and everything will be gorgeous and in chocolate! you know the result !!! negative negative negative it seems they wrote above that in reality, such an accession will bring problems on the world stage ... which, however, should not stop Vova from comprehensive assistance from LDNR, with the subsequent prospect of joining them to Russia !!! lol lol lol wassat wassat wassat
        3. Vasiliev Yu
          Vasiliev Yu 3 November 2017 06: 26 New
          0
          If Russia had annexed the Donbass, the region would, after some time and investment in production, a certain impetus to the development of the economy of Russia itself. Metal production and energy for its production in one place + the presence of an extensive supply chain from the Russian Federation ... Yes, even for export. The region is promising. In our government, the fifth column is preventing the right decision. And so, we hope the majority is for YOU! Hang on guys.

          Why did Dvorkovich and his wife compete with metal? For him and their like nouveau rats, we are in power, the fewer competitors, the better.
          1. Tanyagoga50
            Tanyagoga50 3 November 2017 13: 39 New
            +1
            In your opinion, is Sobchak and Beginner better?
        4. alisher001
          alisher001 6 November 2017 12: 54 New
          0
          As long as the Power there belongs to the People - the DPR, and after the Power will belong not to the people, but to the capitalists (DKR?), Ours will buy everything at the root, and how is the difference between capitalists and socialists? Maybe it would be better if they build and protect the People’s Power, won the second time?
      7. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 3 November 2017 01: 53 New
        +6
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        I look here a lot has been written about the impoverished Donbass and the fact that Russia will not bear the second Crimea.

        do not listen to any idaras !!! drinks drinks good good laughing laughing laughing
      8. BecmepH
        BecmepH 3 November 2017 06: 01 New
        +3
        I look here a lot has been written about the impoverished Donbass and the fact that Russia will not bear the second Crimea.
        Brother, don’t listen to these ... Russia is not Bolivar, everything will endure. Only now is not the time yet. We don’t know everything that’s behind the political scenes. We must wait and be patient, brothers.
      9. forty-eighth
        forty-eighth 3 November 2017 08: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        open-hearth furnaces

        Is it you for a red word or is it really open-hearth furnaces?
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 3 November 2017 10: 12 New
          0
          After they cooled, they were completely shifted to start.
          1. forty-eighth
            forty-eighth 3 November 2017 10: 25 New
            0
            I mean, that technology is grandfathering. They would be nice to change, but I understand that now is not up to fat ...
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 3 November 2017 10: 35 New
              0
              Tymoshenko took this plant from the state and sold it to the Arab oligarch. Even after that it was not modernized.
              1. Antares
                Antares 4 November 2017 00: 13 New
                0
                Quote: Lord of the Sith
                sold to oligarch arab

                Previously, the Yuzovsky Metallurgical Plant was called the Donetsk Electrometallurgical Plant (DEMZ) and belonged to the Russian company Mechel.
                DEMZ has long been part of the Estar holding of Russian businessman Vadim Varshavsky. But due to debts, it became the property of the Russian Alfa Group, from which Mechel, in turn, bought the plant for $ 2011 million in 537. Moreover, the transaction was to be paid in equal monthly installments between 2011 and 2018. Thus, Mechel has not yet paid with the structures of Alfa Group for DEMZ. (Gazeta.ru)
    4. Horst78
      Horst78 2 November 2017 20: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: Donskoy
      By themselves, LDNR in such a suspended state cannot exist for a long time.

      Transnistria exists, like Karabakh. South Ossetia and Abkhazia waited until 2008. Everything can be.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 3 November 2017 11: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: Horst78
        Transnistria exists, like Karabakh. South Ossetia and Abkhazia waited until 2008. Everything can be.


        And Transnistria, in addition, is in worse conditions than Donbass ... Russia has at least a common border with Donbass ...
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 2 November 2017 20: 29 New
      11
      Quote: Donskoy
      Since the forecast for the collapse of Ukraine will not materialize soon

      Already implemented
      Quote: Donskoy
      time is playing in Ukraine today.

      Time is playing against Ukraine. Economy is in the red, reforms have shown a zilch, and instability within the state is only growing. However, do not forget that the so-called LPR, DPR are slowly building a power vertical, a closed cycle in public administration without Ukraine
      Quote: Donskoy
      By themselves, LDNR in such a suspended state cannot exist for a long time,

      They may exist, they have an industrial area and a minimal population, but they will not be able to wage war with a state like Ukraine for a long time.
      Quote: Donskoy
      so soon you will have to decide whether to attach or give Kiev to be torn to pieces.

      Abkhazia and Ossetia, Transnistria live separately and nothing
    6. SMP
      SMP 2 November 2017 21: 20 New
      +3
      Since the forecast for the collapse of Ukraine will not come true soon, time is playing in Ukraine today.


      Ukraine has already collapsed completely losing its sovereignty, now it’s an outpost of the hot war against Russia, so with a direct clash of NATO and the Russian Federation, a nuclear war, and so they are probing options.
      If global corporations do not gain unlimited access to all of Russia's natural resources within 10-15 years, the second great depression will begin in the USA, which will catch the entire golden billion, and the European elite is well aware of this, they go not on the leash of the Americans, but with their shoulders shoulder with the Americans, there is no need to harbor any illusions.

      In essence, a new crusade was announced, as it had once been against Byzantium.
      1. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch 2 November 2017 22: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: SMP
        If Global Corporations within 10-15 years do not get unlimited access to all natural resources of Russia

        They will get a big blue for ... y, not our resources!
    7. Maz
      Maz 2 November 2017 22: 55 New
      0
      In the meantime, we will wait to attach a million useless organisms of the DPR and LPR to the Russian Federation. Let them first unite among themselves. And at the same time they’ll deal with their skeletons in the cabinets inside.
    8. Maz
      Maz 2 November 2017 23: 04 New
      +2
      In the meantime, we wait until a million useless organisms are part of the Russian Federation. Let LPR and DPR first unite among themselves. And at the same time, the skeletons in the closet will be tidied up and sorted out among themselves. And as for the donation - divide your profits by a million inhabitants - and then you will not be a donor to Russia, but we will have to support, provide and protect you. Here’s how you get out, at least for self-sufficiency, then we’ll see if you will be accepted. In the meantime, the ashes of Motor and Givi are beating in my heart. They are your tales, gentlemen Pushilin - believed, for which they paid.
      1. Hammerlock
        Hammerlock 3 November 2017 05: 39 New
        0
        In the meantime, we shall wait to accept a million useless organisms in the Russian Federation
        But how many do you take on yourself, USEFUL ORGANISM
    9. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 2 November 2017 23: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: Donskoy
      On their own, LDNR in such a suspended state cannot exist for a long time, so it will soon be necessary to decide whether to attach or to tear Kiev to pieces.

      Oh, come on ... They will be able to exist for as long as they can ensure their condition using their economic capabilities and power protection, which, according to the most conservative estimates, exceeds several European countries, both in terms of armaments and the number of personnel, moreover, already fired "and motivated. In addition to coal mining, they have already restored factories for the production and repair of locomotives, steelmaking and steel rolling, which could not work without marketing finished products. The issue of "discharge" can be interpreted only if the territory of LDNR becomes the basis for uniting the "tired" Ukraine around itself, but not by returning LDNR to Urkaina.
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        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 6 November 2017 12: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: I am against a lie
          tales of young .. and successfully developing republics leave for the channel Kiselyov TV

          Quote: I am against a lie
          now in the trend-thefts and murders of pensioners .. hunting for pensions. this is something that tells you

          Are you by any chance "the daughter of a Crimean officer, where everything is not so simple"? The situation you described is 100% consistent with the one behind the demarcation line on the side controlled by Kuev. And yet, yes, no one claims that citizens in LDNR put black caviar on sausage and children play with golden cubes. Clearly, there are difficulties since economic ties are broken and a sales market is needed, as the Kuyevlians organized a blockade of the uncontrolled territories, but these problems are being solved little by little. All they will have tip-top, if you do not interfere.
    10. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 3 November 2017 01: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: Donskoy
      Since the forecast for the collapse of Ukraine will not materialize soon

      finally, the collapse of Hohland was realized in 2014 !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing

      Quote: Donskoy
      By themselves, LDNR in such a suspended state cannot exist for a long time,

      the same thing can be said about the existence of an "independent" hierarchandy !!! yes yes lol lol tongue tongue
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 3 November 2017 02: 07 New
        +4
        Quote: Nikolai Grek
        chrchoyandii

        hohland laughing laughing laughing
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    11. pashtik
      pashtik 4 November 2017 15: 37 New
      0
      Novorossia needs this for security!) all kinds of shelling will cease, it remains only to deal with saboteurs and terrorists.
  2. RASKAT
    RASKAT 2 November 2017 18: 22 New
    +1
    Recall, he previously reported that the restoration of the territorial integrity of the DPR will take place at the right historical moment and with minimal losses.
    Perhaps after another maidan, which once again illegally overthrew power in Ukraine.
    1. reservist
      reservist 2 November 2017 18: 29 New
      +8
      Perhaps after the next maidan

      As soon as the Americans send troops to Ukraine, they immediately recognize the DPR and LPR and join Russia ...
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 2 November 2017 18: 33 New
        12
        Quote: reservist
        As soon as the Americans send troops to Ukraine, they immediately recognize the DPR and LPR and join Russia ...

        Most likely, the DPR and LPR will become part of Russia if the Kiev regime once again begins full-scale aggression against the republics and they would be in real danger of genocide.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 2 November 2017 18: 51 New
          +2
          If only in this case, do not miss the time. The military junta near Donetsk and Lugansk ..
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Quote: reservist
          As soon as the Americans send troops to Ukraine, they immediately recognize the DPR and LPR and join Russia ...

          Most likely, the DPR and LPR will become part of Russia if the Kiev regime once again begins full-scale aggression against the republics and they would be in real danger of genocide.
      2. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich 2 November 2017 18: 38 New
        +4
        Quote: reservist
        Perhaps after the next maidan

        As soon as the Americans send troops to Ukraine, they immediately recognize the DPR and LPR and join Russia ...

        There are already plenty of minke whales. Russian troops had to be introduced yesterday, so as not to be late. But Ukraine should not be given to the West in any case.
        1. Orel
          Orel 2 November 2017 19: 11 New
          +5
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          But Ukraine should not be given to the West in any case.


          Already given. You can forget about it for a long time. They could take only what happened. Crimea and destroyed, impoverished due to the war, the Donbass with an uncertain status for decades now.
        2. weksha50
          weksha50 2 November 2017 20: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          There are already plenty of minke whales.


          There are no American troops there ...
          And the instructors are different ... So there are a lot of them on both sides ...
          1. Nehist
            Nehist 2 November 2017 21: 24 New
            +1
            Are you the 45 US Infantry Brigade instructors call? Well, yes, it’s not in full force, only one battalion, but somehow for the instructors it will be too much
            1. weksha50
              weksha50 2 November 2017 22: 01 New
              +2
              Quote: Nehist
              Are you the 45 US Infantry Brigade instructors call? Well, she’s not in full force, only one battalion


              Do not confuse the temporary presence of this unit during joint exercises ... According to the Constitution of Ukraine, the permanent presence of units of foreign armies in the country is prohibited ...
              But both the PMC volunteers and the instructors are full ...
              1. LAWNER
                LAWNER 3 November 2017 01: 53 New
                0
                About the temporary location of foreign troops, I can write an entire article)))
              2. Nehist
                Nehist 3 November 2017 15: 00 New
                0
                I will answer you with folk wisdom - Nothing happens so constantly as temporary
            2. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 3 November 2017 02: 09 New
              +4
              Quote: Nehist
              Are you the 45 US Infantry Brigade instructors call? Well, yes, it’s not in full force, only one battalion, but somehow for the instructors it will be too much

              that the instructor, that the infantry - one he, heroes of the current in Hollywood !!! wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 2 November 2017 18: 22 New
    0
    With a pitchfork on water, specifically, we want to go to Russia. The situation is still complicated. But we need more specifics.
  4. Essex62
    Essex62 2 November 2017 18: 33 New
    +1
    Does the Kremlin back up?
  5. Wolka
    Wolka 2 November 2017 18: 37 New
    +4
    but for the time being it is beneficial for Russia to make LDNR independent
    1. Fkjydjckfrgh
      Fkjydjckfrgh 2 November 2017 18: 50 New
      +1
      Delivered +, but not to Russia but to the authorities (as long as there is shooting there - they are "indestructible")
    2. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 2 November 2017 19: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: Volka
      but for the time being it is beneficial for Russia to make LDNR independent

      And they hold great!
      As Zhukov said, "Stand to the death!"

      So far so for all of us .. soldier
  6. Simon
    Simon 2 November 2017 18: 40 New
    +6
    Quote: Donskoy
    As history shows, everything is possible in our world. Since the forecast for the collapse of Ukraine will not be realized soon, time is playing in Ukraine today. On their own, LDNR in such a suspended state cannot exist for a long time, so it will soon be necessary to decide whether to attach or to tear Kiev to pieces.

    I do not agree! While a strong Russia is nearby, the LPR and the DPR will not be offended. There are options - to recognize these republics and officially help them.
  7. win
    win 2 November 2017 18: 41 New
    12
    - Mykola, you know, what was Ukraine once part of Russia?
    “There can’t be such a thing, Panas!”
    - Why not?
    “Hiba, are we separatists?” what
  8. Sergei75
    Sergei75 2 November 2017 18: 46 New
    +2
    Another “Crimea” will be hard to endure.
    Maybe they will take Kiev and there will be a whole Ukraine?
  9. Barshchik-M
    Barshchik-M 2 November 2017 18: 54 New
    +9
    “In the event of a change in international alignment in favor of Russia, she herself will offer the self-proclaimed republic“ options for coexistence. ”

    Well, in fact, we have long existed together ...
    But in fact, we need to clean Syria and gain a foothold there! And then we’ll deal with Kiev ..
    Hold on to Donbass! No offense.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 2 November 2017 19: 07 New
      +1
      Vitaly, go to clean up Kiev, just say that I sent! !! am
      1. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 2 November 2017 19: 19 New
        +7
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Vitaly, go to clean up Kiev, just say that I sent! !! am

        They will order me, even on foot ... soldier
        I’ll stop with my relatives .. hehe hey I'll get to the very outskirts of Galicia and then ..

        On running looted with bags ....
        1. hamkan
          hamkan 2 November 2017 21: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          They will order, even on foot I’ll go

          good
  10. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 2 November 2017 19: 04 New
    +2
    and the opinion of the inhabitants of Russia when they ask?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 November 2017 19: 10 New
      +3
      And never will be - there are a lot of inhabitants and everyone has different opinions.
    2. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 2 November 2017 19: 29 New
      +8
      Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
      and the opinion of the inhabitants of Russia when they ask?

      In bulk, etc. ? laughing Everyone will be asked for sure, the main thing is not to worry .. hehe
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      1. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 3 November 2017 06: 00 New
        0
        you’ll poke your wife or drinking companions, but here only YOU
    4. zhekazs
      zhekazs 2 November 2017 23: 47 New
      0
      And where does the inhabitants of Russia? Who do you mean? Russian citizens have long expressed their opinion. This does not apply to you. You are a resident))
      1. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 3 November 2017 05: 59 New
        0
        oops and where did citizens express their opinion? here on the forum? I don’t see the joys of accepting LDNR as part of the Russian Federation in polls
  11. Herculesic
    Herculesic 2 November 2017 19: 06 New
    +3
    Only now, I think that earlier North Korea will be part of Russia sad than LLNR! !! sad Our liberties will not allow the republic to be part of Russia! !!
    1. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 2 November 2017 19: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Only now, I think that earlier North Korea will be part of Russia sad than LLNR! !! sad Our liberties will not allow the republic to be part of Russia! !!

      And also Israel, from fear of the Arabs .. wassat
      1. zhekazs
        zhekazs 2 November 2017 23: 53 New
        0
        Yes, the Arabs themselves already in the first or second pay off who is the first in the line of the autonomous region of Russia stand in line. And the Jews already in Russia have their own Jewish Autonomous Region on the border with the empires of Xin Zin Ping.
  12. Going
    Going 2 November 2017 19: 12 New
    12
    According to the head of the DPR, “if the international balance changes in favor of Russia, she herself” will offer the self-proclaimed republic “coexistence options”.


    Sooner or later, but it will happen.
  13. DPN
    DPN 2 November 2017 19: 17 New
    +1
    It is a pity that we missed the opportunity in 2014, now everything is more complicated and the roofs will probably be more.
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 2 November 2017 21: 02 New
      +2
      Now everything is more complicated and there will probably be more blood.

      Will not be. No one will go anywhere already - time is lost. But this is a separate comment .... soldier
    2. YUG64
      YUG64 2 November 2017 22: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: DPN
      It is a pity that we missed the opportunity in 2014, now everything is more complicated and there will probably be more
      Yes, no one was missing anything, everything - as it should have been ... Donbass released blood from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and actually sentenced Ukraine as a state ... No matter how long the agony lasts - and no one needs a quick collapse of a 40 millionth country, the end is inevitable ... The whole world was shown that there was no battering ram for Russia from Ukraine .. Let the Lord choose what they should do with this illiquid asset ...
  14. Eurodav
    Eurodav 2 November 2017 19: 23 New
    +2
    Quote: Essex62
    Does the Kremlin back up?

    How did you see this? Zakharchenko’s statement is just for you! He said, not yet time! And what, the Kremlin promised you something else? As far as I know, besides the promise not to leave in trouble, in which case, there were no other promises?
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 2 November 2017 21: 05 New
      0
      As far as I know, besides the promise not to leave in trouble

      How many convoys sent? At the fifth dozen count?
  15. Eurodav
    Eurodav 2 November 2017 19: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: DPN
    It is a pity that we missed the opportunity in 2014, now everything is more complicated and the roofs will probably be more.

    What did you miss? It seems to me that the question of accession certainly stood, but in the most extreme fire case! If ukrovany trample with a drill! But the miners lied to them with ... S ... With God's help, in short! And if so, with the condachka, as Sharapov said, LDNR would be included, Russia would already be in real isolation, even the Papuans would tell us something ... Well, don’t confuse Crimea and Donbass, any lawyer in Crimea will prove the insignificance of the transfer of the peninsula, without taking into account the opinions of the residents, by the corn grower of the Ukrainian SSR, but the Donetsk and Lugansk regions are more complicated ... Here, for years of explanation to the Western dodges, the Bolsheviks’ machinations ...
  16. samarin1969
    samarin1969 2 November 2017 19: 44 New
    +5
    Quite strange: VO writes about a "self-proclaimed" republic .... A rather liberal MK expresses itself more respectfully "Donetsk People's Republic" ...
    Somehow, everyone is “embarrassed” to talk about the “incredible escalation of international tension” ... “Partner” Rex probably forbade talking. wink
  17. Chaos
    Chaos 2 November 2017 19: 55 New
    0
    The US war will begin with the DPRK, and then we will unite with the Donbass under the guise
    1. San Sanych
      San Sanych 2 November 2017 21: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Chaos
      The US war will begin with the DPRK, and then we will unite with the Donbass under the guise

      Better let the US fight Texas. Long live free Texas! DPRK is better not to be touched, because, to them, to these very states, it will be worse laughing
  18. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 2 November 2017 21: 10 New
    +6
    The entry of the republics into the Russian Federation is a matter of time.
  19. Kerensky
    Kerensky 2 November 2017 21: 10 New
    +2
    My opinion (purely personal):
    Zakharchenko verbs the truth - the time will come and the Republic will be part of the Russian Federation. But why are there still two of them ?! I understand .. if you combine the two schools, you will have to dismiss the head teacher, director and manager ..
  20. kefan
    kefan 2 November 2017 21: 24 New
    +1
    This had to be done back in 2014, together with the Crimea, and not only the Donbass.
  21. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 2 November 2017 21: 35 New
    0
    Well done Alexander, smartly takes into account the international situation. Not that Strelkov is without responsibility in his head. Naturally, LDNR can enter Ukraine on acceptable terms. But they can, under the conditions he named, and as part of Russia
  22. XXXIII
    XXXIII 2 November 2017 22: 02 New
    +1
    Today neither we nor Russia are ready for this. Let's not fool ourselves. The beginning of such a process would lead to an incredible escalation of international tensions, and not so much around us (there is enough here and so - people die almost every day), as around Russia
    the division into small principalities continues, someone will hurt someone, someone will carry .... yes The borders are being redistributed in BV, Europe is shaking, Russia has already survived, and cruel democracy for independence in the United States ... hi
  23. Violinist
    Violinist 2 November 2017 22: 33 New
    +1
    What is the note about, author? About your boy? ..
  24. Litvinov
    Litvinov 2 November 2017 22: 53 New
    0
    In this case, the DLRN will have to carefully study the experience of the DPRK in conditions of tremendous international pressure, but under the wing of the Russian Federation. The DPRK manages not only to survive, but also to develop.

    Eun’s cause is alive and well! Eun - the mind, honor and conscience of our era! drinks
  25. zhekazs
    zhekazs 2 November 2017 23: 09 New
    +5
    The time has passed since Crimea, beyond our doorstep, ETIs, europiods have calmed down, it is time to take the next step and acknowledge (recognize) that another part of Russia - Donetsk and Lugansk has not yet returned to Russia. And do not give a damn about all the creatures of the rest, let them writhe in their fury. Well, what do we care about them, with their dollar, euro, BMW and Mercedes? Enough to look back at the "civilized Europe and the United States," which lynched Saddam and tore into pieces Gaddafi and his country. It's time to send the rest of the world to ... away. Tired already. Tired of Ukraine, fed up with BV, fed up with shale gas and the dollar, with the euro and the economic crisis, gays and NATO, Trump and Hillary with ICP ... Enough. How long will our MFA HAVE all this? It’s time to tell Lavrov already the WORD IN RUSSIAN, and not mumble. Stop being afraid of these ur..v. Well, if these ur..yes are completely overloaded, then stop responding with words to their linguistic atrocities - it's time to answer. Answer us. In Syria - to bomb the positions of all unaccounted factions, primarily the Amerzians with their igiloprihvosti. Answer in the Donbass - recognize them in the State Duma, SovFed and so on, the territory where the Russian population is genocide, send your troops there and put things in order, within the borders of the regions (then let them decide with whom or not with whom they will provide support), and even if the “West” is at least a little bit more, it’s enough to listen to them and look back at their “civilized” opinion, they’ll spoil all agreements, Minsky-1-2-3 etc., to them, “West”, the main thing is to have more Russian died in eastern Ukraine. They are trying to catch up with what they started, isn't that clear? How much can you endure the killing of the Russian population? Where is justice, or is it necessary to wait for a decision of some court in ten years? Let's wait until they are all killed there? How much longer can spitting from the sea .. wash your face? I urge the government to action, it’s enough to procrastinate and mumble, like de-jesters, unintelligible speeches - look at yourself — even in Russia you ... you already think it’s enough to look at the “West” and look into them and in the mouth and opu, like Yeltsin, it’s time to act decisively. Do not give a damn about sanctions when the survival of a nation, people, country is at stake.
    For the decision on Syria - a lot of approval. In the Crimea - as well. Writing on the head of Unu - verbally, by diplomats and ambassadors, put to the coast of the North. Korea’s Pacific Fleet ships on duty, so as not to be exceptional. They are already doing something with Iran, they are deciding now ... But where are the next steps? It is impossible now, in our time, to take two steps and stop thinking, they’re running behind, trampling, you need to run further and run ahead of all, and think a kilometer ahead ............
    1. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 3 November 2017 10: 48 New
      0
      It is a pity that no one will do it all, even the GDP is unlikely to slash the sword like that ....
  26. tommy717
    tommy717 3 November 2017 04: 42 New
    0
    Quote: volodya
    I write "they" get "down", what is it?
    You just need to click the “change” button (pencil icon) and then “accept corrections”.
  27. kig
    kig 3 November 2017 05: 28 New
    +4
    Well, finally, a balanced reaction from Zakharchenko. Interestingly, someone thought or prompted someone? Well, for starters, we must somehow contrive that the DPR is recognized by the state.
    1. raw174
      raw174 3 November 2017 07: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: kig
      Well, for starters, we must somehow contrive that the DPR is recognized by the state.

      And that's it ... if they admit, why should they join someone? Agreements and all ...
      1. kig
        kig 3 November 2017 09: 37 New
        0
        no, well if you want - welcome. Anyway ... eat!
  28. Vanek
    Vanek 3 November 2017 05: 45 New
    +1
    "Options for coexistence."

    Coexistence *

    hi
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  30. raw174
    raw174 3 November 2017 07: 24 New
    +4
    Donbas is not a banana republic, but an industrial region. He needs autonomy, even as part of Ukraine, even in Russia, but a sufficient amount of autonomy. If the war ends, Donbas will restore itself, they will live well. I think during 18-19 years this knot will be cut ...
  31. Vadim Sh.
    Vadim Sh. 3 November 2017 07: 45 New
    +2
    Yes, it will be so, just give time, the 404 country will be torn unequivocally, the main thing is to take the whole of the South - East.
    1. Pyromaniac
      Pyromaniac 29 November 2017 23: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Vadim Sh.
      the main thing is to pick up the entire SOUTH - EAST.

      IMHO it is necessary to take the whole territory of Ukraine.
  32. PLOHICH56
    PLOHICH56 3 November 2017 09: 11 New
    +1
    WAITING FOR FRIENDS!
  33. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 3 November 2017 10: 42 New
    +1
    Time will show and put everything in its place. Zakharchenko is certainly right .. now it’s difficult for Russia to do this, but how much howling from the West will rise if Donbass becomes part of the Russian Federation ???? This is not counting the economic effect plus a political scandal throughout the world.
  34. Egor Voronov
    Egor Voronov 3 November 2017 22: 45 New
    +1
    LNR and DNR apologize for the expression "Russia doesn’t need a fuck." Crimea was needed exclusively for the Black Sea Fleet, no more. Why Russia needs two "burdens"?
    1. Pyromaniac
      Pyromaniac 29 November 2017 23: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Egor Voronov
      Why Russia needs two "burdens"?

      To begin to restore territorial integrity ... RUSSIA.
  35. Alexander S
    Alexander S 4 November 2017 12: 31 New
    0
    Bandits what to say. With our support and sympathy.
  36. Misha_an26
    Misha_an26 4 November 2017 13: 21 New
    0
    I think they blundered in 14-15 years. It was necessary to take along with Crimea and Donetsk with Lugansk under the wing. No one would jerk. What about the sanctions? Yes, they were all our history.
  37. Augustine Gladyshev
    Augustine Gladyshev 4 November 2017 22: 38 New
    0
    In the event of an attack by Ukraine, supported by US mercenaries - in the Donbass, Russia MUST IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE the INDEPENDENCE of these Republics, with all the ensuing activities. as in the Georgian Conflict with Russia.
  38. Cynic
    Cynic 5 November 2017 10: 51 New
    +1
    The GDP immediately then, after their referenda on independence, said: Sooner, not yet time ...
  39. alisher001
    alisher001 6 November 2017 12: 49 New
    0
    You have to be a moron to join Russia. I will say why. Because since you became People’s Republics, joining capitalist Russia will be tantamount to a betrayal of the republics with People’s Power. With your own hands you will surrender your people's power to the wolves of the capitalists. Having given power, then do not be surprised at the billions of leaders, the bourgeois’s palaces, the lack of medicine and an increase in the retirement age, the destruction of all social programs — this will no longer be the DPR, not the People’s Republic.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 6 November 2017 22: 08 New
      0
      Quote: alisher001
      You have to be a moron to join Russia.

      It is interesting to listen to your opinions about returning to the "bosom of Urkaina", joining the European Union, or even about joining the United States as the next state))) Are you sure you have no objections? Remember a wonderful man, we are not forcibly pulling anyone towards us. If you would like, LDNR would long ago become subjects of the Russian Federation. So don’t burn the gunpowder in vain, with your agitation hi
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 7 November 2017 07: 57 New
        +1
        One must be an ambitious fool to believe that a small entity (state) can survive on its own. Only under patronage.
        As soon as the case turns up, we’ll sell the referendum on accession
  40. 3 Gradient
    3 Gradient 7 November 2017 03: 07 New
    0
    Quote: weksha50
    Quote: volodya
    But the West, including Poland, would have been delighted with this! Would immediately tear the leftovers to pieces!


    It's time to understand for a long time ... Despite the seeming inaction and some kind of inertia of Russia, it will not give up not only the territories of the LPR-DPR ... There are still many Russian territories ... And for the Poles there are not only modern Susanins ... Their Wishlist "from mozh to mozh" are scattered ...

    Laconic and accurate commentary. Unfortunately, there are few ... such.
  41. w70
    w70 8 November 2017 21: 32 New
    +1
    Who asks him when the time will come we will accept with all Ukraine
  42. AVA77
    AVA77 28 November 2017 20: 28 New
    0
    Quote: BecmepH
    Once again I regret that there are no "minuses"

    once again I wish that there is no