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Ukraine will start producing ammunition in accordance with NATO standards from 2019

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Ukraine in the second half of 2019 will start producing ammunition according to NATO standards, said the deputy head of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade of Ukraine Yuri Brovchenko in an interview with the online edition Delo.ua


Earlier, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said that the authorities intend to allocate about 54 million dollars for the construction of a plant for the production of ammunition according to NATO standards. Today, Ukraine almost does not produce its ammunition, using stocks of Soviet times.

Ukraine will start producing ammunition in accordance with NATO standards from 2019


According to Brovchenko, today, as part of the program to launch the production of ammunition in Ukraine, the Ministry of Economy has carried out the procurement process of a line for the production of shells and sleeves in caliber 100-155 millimeters.

We are planning a transition to the main caliber used by NATO countries - 155 millimeters. All equipment that is purchased and will be supplied under this program will be adapted to NATO standards.
- said the deputy minister.

He said that most likely the production line will be located in the state joint-stock holding company "Artem", which is engaged in the production aviation missiles and is based in Kiev. Brovchenko said that this enterprise has already allocated 1,4 billion hryvnia ($ 52 million) for the purchase and creation of production of ammunition at the funds of the Ministry of Defense. He added that, in addition, the funds of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine are planned to produce cartridges of caliber from 5,45 mm to 14,5 mm.

According to Brovchenko, Ukraine can start production of its own ammunition in the second half of 2019.

Earlier, Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak said that the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine adopted a state program for the production of ammunition. It was also reported that in Ukraine may appear its own cartridge plant.
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  1. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 2 November 2017 16: 21
    +6
    Well, at such a rate of destruction of stockpiles of ammunition, it is possible to switch to NATO standards earlier) And it’s easier to shoot with those who remained about the bastards, not a single human rights activist will howl ...
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 2 November 2017 16: 27
      +8
      Quote: Vladimir71
      Well, at such a rate of destruction of stockpiles of ammunition, it is possible to switch to NATO standards earlier)

      They are such brakes that when they switch to NATO standards, they will be surprised to learn that NATO countries have moved 7.62x51 after Israel. wassat
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 2 November 2017 16: 42
        +5
        Quote: Scoun
        crossed 7.62x51 after Israel

        Happy news. Given the issue of NATO cartridges in Ukraine, I foresee a slight decrease in the effectiveness of the armament of the same NATO ... I understand that Ukraine will not do it for itself, but mainly for deliveries ...
        1. Going
          Going 2 November 2017 16: 50
          13
          All the same, they are not at all friends with the head, but these are their problems.
      2. win
        win 2 November 2017 18: 11
        +2
        when they switch to NATO standards they will be surprised to learn that NATO countries

        By then, NATO countries will disappear ... hi
        1. win
          win 2 November 2017 18: 13
          +8
          Will Russia join NATO?
          If necessary, we will join NATO!
          Let's enter the Netherlands am
      3. not main
        not main 3 November 2017 00: 26
        +1
        Quote: Scoun
        Quote: Vladimir71
        Well, at such a rate of destruction of stockpiles of ammunition, it is possible to switch to NATO standards earlier)

        They are such brakes that when they switch to NATO standards, they will be surprised to learn that NATO countries have moved 7.62x51 after Israel. wassat

        Is 7.62 * 51 not a NATO standard?
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 3 November 2017 10: 48
          +3
          Quote: non-primary
          Quote: Scoun
          Quote: Vladimir71
          Well, at such a rate of destruction of stockpiles of ammunition, it is possible to switch to NATO standards earlier)

          They are such brakes that when they switch to NATO standards, they will be surprised to learn that NATO countries have moved 7.62x51 after Israel. wassat

          Is 7.62 * 51 not a NATO standard?

          More precisely, this is the US standard that Brezhnev liked and since then we have at least two of its factories in Barnaul and Izhevsk produce cartridge 7.62x51 GOST 21169-75 since 1974.
          And so, yes, you’re right. I got a little confused, but there is a reason for that. repeat
      4. Kent0001
        Kent0001 3 November 2017 09: 43
        +1
        And will they shoot from them, or will they? Their trunks under such a caliber cat cried.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 2 November 2017 17: 05
      +2
      Let them explode their depots and move to NATO standards. Less Lugansk and Donetsk will get. And in NATA pan-and-needle army and fuck nobody needs.
  2. Barshchik-M
    Barshchik-M 2 November 2017 16: 21
    +6
    Today, Ukraine almost does not produce its ammunition, using stockpiles of Soviet times.

    Ukraine is no longer producing anything .. Everyone has collapsed and plundered.
    1. Shura Perm
      Shura Perm 2 November 2017 16: 23
      +8
      and then shoot with these ammunition what will be ??? Do they represent the level of stress on the economy ?? change millions of barrels, make billions of rounds of ammunition ... well, well ... it’s easier to upgrade the nuclear triad than to change the caliber of barrels for the whole army ...
      1. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 2 November 2017 16: 50
        +6
        The actions of these leaders are reminiscent of the actions of either children or madmen, whose goal is to destroy everything to the core, what is connected with the USSR and Russia.
        The country's industry is already a bunch of scrap metal.
        Apparently, in a "revolutionary frenzy" they are not up to the calculations of how much they have ditched, and how much time and energy it will take to get out of that cesspool into which they drove themselves.

        The state-owned enterprise Nikolaev Shipbuilding Plant, part of the Ukroboronprom concern, has stopped working, the press service of the concern reports.

        The official reason for the suspension of work in the concern was the absence of a decision of the Ukrainian government on the missile cruiser of project 1164. The company for three years at its own expense tried to keep the unfinished cruiser.

        “Today, the accounts of the enterprise have been arrested, and wage arrears amount to more than 58 million hryvnias. These debts have accumulated due to the termination of the reimbursement of expenses of the enterprise for maintaining the cruiser in February 2015,” it was informed.

        The termination of the maintenance of the cruiser will lead to the destruction of its energy components, equipment elements, environmental pollution of the waters of the Bug and Ingul rivers, according to Ukroboronprom.

        But once it was a normal shipyard.
        The oneta cartridges were about to rivet. Oh well. With them, perhaps "get rich" can. fool
        1. alkor
          alkor 2 November 2017 17: 24
          +6
          This, comrades, is probably the only cruiser in the world who, without raising a flag, has ruined the economy of the plant, and as a result destroyed it. Not every cruiser with their shooting was able to destroy the plant.
      2. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 2 November 2017 19: 47
        +5
        Quote: Shura Perm
        and then to shoot these ammunition from what will be ??

        They will sell them all over the world, and the USA will supply weapons! This is the whole idea ...
        There is experience of illegal arms sales from former huge Soviet warehouses of the USSR in Kiev .. Everything will be mutually beneficial and "legitimate" I am sure of that ..

        Blood should be shed and the percentage of profit to grow
        1. Lganhi
          Lganhi 3 November 2017 00: 30
          +4
          Are you so naive or is it sarcasm? US manufacturers will never allow their competitor to grow in Ukraine. On the contrary, moving to NATO standards, the United States will earn a pretty penny on the supply of cartridges and carbines to Ukraine. No cartridge plant will be built in Ukraine - these are all fairy tales for pots. Going under NATO standards, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the mining industry are firmly bogged down in dependence on the supply of arms and ammunition from the United States.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 3 November 2017 04: 08
            +2
            Quote: Lgankhi
            The United States will earn a pretty penny on the supply of cartridges and carbines to Ukraine.

            Yes, it will be so!
      3. not main
        not main 3 November 2017 00: 33
        0
        Quote: Shura Perm
        and then shoot with these ammunition what will be ??? Do they represent the level of stress on the economy ?? change millions of barrels, make billions of rounds of ammunition ... well, well ... it’s easier to upgrade the nuclear triad than to change the caliber of barrels for the whole army ...

        They are just waiting for lethal weapons from the usa! And pre-prepare ammunition for him! And they shoot the rest of the Soviet warehouses, rest assured! Which way everyone understands!
  3. Berber
    Berber 2 November 2017 16: 21
    +3
    Why do they need these ammunition? They have no weapons of the corresponding caliber. Probably kickbacks again.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 2 November 2017 20: 02
      +1
      You know how to read? The Russian language says: "... besides this, it is planned to produce ammunition from 5,45 mm to 14,5 mm in the funds of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine." (Cit.) Indeed, where did Ukraine get 5,45 mm caliber weapons .?
      1. Berber
        Berber 3 November 2017 08: 45
        +1
        Ammo okay, I agree. Why 155mm. This is a lot of money for rearmament.
  4. 210ox
    210ox 2 November 2017 16: 22
    0
    Well, weapons by NATO standards are probably not visible there. And Soviet? By the old tradition, steal and sell. De.. more precisely, the cunning and rushing.
  5. izya top
    izya top 2 November 2017 16: 23
    +4
    in 2019, the skakuas will begin to make nuclear weapons. they will cut the pipe and cast the cores fellow
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 November 2017 16: 38
    0
    So I’m saying why Russia needs a factory for the production of NATO ammunition? Or again they don’t sleep in the Kremlin, but they torture a thought.
  7. Monarchist
    Monarchist 2 November 2017 16: 46
    +1
    Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
    Today, Ukraine almost does not produce its ammunition, using stockpiles of Soviet times.

    Ukraine is no longer producing anything .. Everyone has collapsed and plundered.

    Noise and stink constantly produce
  8. Monarchist
    Monarchist 2 November 2017 16: 54
    0
    Quote: BerBer
    Why do they need these ammunition? They have no weapons of the corresponding caliber. Probably kickbacks again.

    1) they dream of joining NATO to show commitment.
    2) rollback is a holy thing. Pedro has chocolate and armored shells, and Poltorak, Brovchenko and lower ones, what’s the big deal with butter? Here they are "fed". They have "sane" power
  9. fa2998
    fa2998 2 November 2017 17: 02
    +2
    54 million for a cartridge plant is a rather modest amount. And what is the capacity? If you are thinking of rearming and supplying the army, you need good power. And yet. They are thinking of simultaneously producing 5,45 mm. (Soviet caliber) and everything else - a hodgepodge is obtained hi
  10. Herculesic
    Herculesic 2 November 2017 17: 06
    +2
    As with any side, but standing next to NATO! !! wassat
  11. Boris Tomarov_2
    Boris Tomarov_2 2 November 2017 17: 07
    +1
    And where they will take the guns to NATO calibers, they have all the Soviet-made barrels.
  12. Sergey53
    Sergey53 2 November 2017 17: 20
    +1
    Ammunition NATO caliber. Whose weapon is it? To ours already in any way. In 1976, the GSVG re-equipped. Old equipment was taken to the Union. They brought a new one. But the ammunition is not our caliber. And so for a month.
  13. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 2 November 2017 17: 23
    0
    Here are stupid people! Do they have NATO weapons? What will you shoot in 404? laughing tongue wassat drinks
  14. Topotun
    Topotun 2 November 2017 17: 24
    +3
    What kind of mania is this - the transition to NATO standards ... Ammunition alone is not enough, because it is necessary and from what to use them. Those. weapons must also be produced. And here is already a serious bummer, you need to invest so much in such a production .... Or just buy ready-made. Consequently, a complete transition to the NATO standards of all the armed forces will result in serious money. And most importantly, why?
    1. win
      win 2 November 2017 19: 07
      +5
      What kind of mania is this - the transition to NATO standards ...

      First, the ammunition and shells will change to NATO standards,
      then the Minister of Defense - to a woman,
      then command staff - transgender people.
      They don’t think about the future at all ...
      So Trump forbade transgender people to serve in the American army.
      If a person has changed sex, then he will easily change the army ... belay
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 2 November 2017 20: 02
      +1
      Quote: Topotun
      And most importantly, why?

      "Eurointegration", and this is a sweet word for any Ukrainian, NATO, laughing
  15. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 2 November 2017 17: 53
    +1
    ammunition of NATO caliber ... and that is shooting for them? They, too, are not worth a penny ... although, they will be taken from pensioners, state employees and the social network will be cut to zero
  16. rus-5819
    rus-5819 2 November 2017 18: 23
    +1
    We are planning a transition to the main caliber used by NATO countries - 155 millimeters. All equipment that is purchased and will be supplied under this program will be adapted to NATO standards.

    That is, ukrobanditsky spawn plans to continue to bombard the Donbass shells?
  17. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 2 November 2017 18: 38
    +1
    And where will they charge these 155 mm shells in 2019 ?! Ukraine, too, that they will also deliver the artillery production line or give the old self-propelled guns ?!
    Judging by the quality of everything that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex does, all of these actions are another bastard for the Kiev junta ...
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 2 November 2017 19: 59
      +2
      There will be NATO 155-mm shells, hammered into Soviet 152-mm barrels. laughing
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 3 November 2017 04: 12
      +1
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      And where will they load these 155-mm shells in the 2019 year ?!

      Oh, and you forgot the old admonition: stitch the excess with a file!
  18. Wolka
    Wolka 2 November 2017 18: 41
    +1
    where is 2019, and where is Svidomo today with its army
    1. japs
      japs 2 November 2017 20: 42
      +4
      It’s just right to ask about the very existence of 404 as a territory in 2019.
      You can plan anything.
      "Only a man gathered in Kislovodsk for mineral waters ..." M. A. Bulgakov.
  19. win
    win 2 November 2017 18: 55
    +2
    Not money is allocated to fight corruption, but cartridges!
    Moreover, the NATO standard sad request
  20. Popovich
    Popovich 2 November 2017 19: 13
    0
    Ukraine in the second half of 2019 will begin ...

    ... 2019 - Ukraine? what's this?
  21. Pivasik
    Pivasik 2 November 2017 19: 28
    0
    For 54 million Ukrainian hryvnias, you can only "conceive" to build a cartridge plant ... winked
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 2 November 2017 19: 57
      0
      Read carefully, we are talking about 54 million dollars.
  22. Slam
    Slam 2 November 2017 19: 53
    +1
    Ukraine is no longer producing anything .. All collapsed and looted. [/ Quote]
    But in Russia, everything is different: Japan, China, Korea, the one on the south side is biting among themselves for the volumes of supplies of zil, lawns, Kamaz, Muscovites, and Urals. Americans want to learn how to make oxygen cylinders of 40 kg., As in Russia, and not 80 kg., As they have in America. They ask to show at least a photo of PAK FA. Otherwise, they say, they can’t sleep. The Germans are asking to teach them how to make large-diameter pipes and electrodes for their welding. A great country - just not count.
    1. japs
      japs 2 November 2017 20: 50
      +5
      Probably a vacation in Khokhlostan schools ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 November 2017 21: 59
        +4
        What to do? we have victims of the Unified State Examination, neighbors have roofing felts from jumpers, roofing felts from maydanushki, roofing felts from cookies brains to one side ... almost geyropeytsi so to speak ... and even want to be proud of these ???
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 2 November 2017 22: 04
      +1
      Quote: Slam
      Japan, China, Korea, the one on the south side, are biting among themselves for the volumes of supplies of zil, lawns, Kamaz, Muscovites, and Urals.

      Your sarcasm is not clear, all of these plants work and produce products, well, maybe except ZIL.
      Quote: Slam
      Americans want to learn how to make oxygen cylinders of 40 kg., As in Russia, and not 80 kg., As they have in America.

      Ah, what advanced Americans these oxygen tanks cannot do, but they can do rocket engines and even deliver them to Russia under the RD-180 brand.
      Quote: Slam
      The Germans are asking to teach them how to make large-diameter pipes and electrodes for their welding. A great country - just not count.

      And you thought that Russia could not cope without Ukraine? Break off - managed. They began to make themselves pipes and rails.
  23. Orionvit
    Orionvit 2 November 2017 19: 56
    +1
    According to Brovchenko, Ukraine can start production of its own ammunition in the second half of 2019.
    We will see. Vague thoughts torment that by the second half of 2019, Ukraine itself will not be.
  24. Eurodav
    Eurodav 2 November 2017 20: 11
    +6
    And rightly Great Pig Breeders! To run out of ammo, so completely! And there’s nowhere to take it, anyway you won’t be able to produce enough, and then the powder will be raw, then the capsule will be rusty ... The next step is to urgently change the gauge of the railway track to European so that ours do not pass! Damn, on this occasion, the bike was remembered:
    On the sides of the Kennedy spacecraft are two engines on
    5 feet wide. Ship designers would like to make these engines
    even wider, but could not. Why?
    The fact is that these engines were delivered by rail, which
    passes through a narrow tunnel. The distance between the rails is standard:
    4 feet 8.5 inches, so designers could only make engines
    5 feet wide.
    The question arises: why is the distance between the rails 4 feet 8.5 inches?
    Where did this figure come from?
    It turns out that the railways in the States were doing the same as in
    England, and in England they made railway cars on the same principle,
    both tram and the first trams were produced in England in the image and
    likeness of Konka. And the length of the axle axis was just 4 feet 8.5 inches!
    But why?
    Because the horses made with the expectation that their axis fell into the ruts on
    English roads, so that the wheels wear out less, and the distance between
    the ruts in England are just 4 feet 8.5 inches! Why so?
    Yes, just the roads in the UK began to make the Romans, bringing them under
    the size of their war chariots, and the axis length of a standard Roman chariot
    equaled ... right, 4 feet 8.5 inches! Well now we got to the bottom
    where did this size come from, but still why did the Romans decide to do
    their chariots with axles of exactly this length? And here's why: in such a
    the chariot was usually harnessed by two horses. And 4 feet 8.5 inches - that was
    just the size of two horse asses! To make the axis of the chariot longer was
    uncomfortable, as this would upset the chariot.
    Therefore, here is the answer to the very first question: even now, when
    man went into space, his highest technical achievements directly
    Depend on HORSE SIZE TWO THOUSAND YEARS OLD
    And we have 18 cm wider. Why ??? Yes, because the Tsar was asked when they were going to build a railway:
    - Will we put the rails as in abroad, or wider?
    - on ... (member) wider? - answered the king
    So they built a track wider by 18 cm ...
  25. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 2 November 2017 20: 37
    0
    Well. Finally, another enemy of Russia was determined. And all the policies of tracking and empty threats of the Russian leadership. When wimps in power all around see this and react accordingly.
  26. APASUS
    APASUS 2 November 2017 21: 07
    +2
    You can go to any standards, but the production of ammunition is the smallest step and not the most expensive. Next is the reorganization of all regulatory and technical documentation for the production of weapons. Then the replacement of technology and finally the introduction, and this is all the money and what else, where Ukraine will take a couple of tens of billions $, for the conversion of the entire military-industrial complex to new standards and technologies, to replace all weapons ???
  27. Slam
    Slam 2 November 2017 21: 41
    0
    Quote: japs
    Probably a vacation in Khokhlostan schools ...

    Monday ended.
  28. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 2 November 2017 23: 48
    +5
    Oh ... If they start to produce, then they will steal as if not into themselves. You can get rich on one brass for a sleeve under 5,56 and this is not counting anything more serious.
    But the question is not even that ...
    And how will you live, my dear, until this 2019? Yes, okay, HOW .. Do you live?
  29. LeonidL
    LeonidL 3 November 2017 02: 42
    +1
    They will produce ... three cartridges on the knee and declare to the great paramogue. ... like the creation of a new turtle-like overgrowth or supply of Slovak gas!
  30. the47th
    the47th 3 November 2017 09: 38
    0
    I wonder how much Ukraine has in service with 155 mm howitzers? Or at least accepted? Or are they expecting the Americans to take and drive them, fraternally, into a pair of Paladin batteries?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 3 November 2017 09: 50
      +3
      How many old howitzers they did not have in service, the barrel resource they already shot ... they will shoot in the white light, like a pretty penny, which is even sadder ... in this white light there are \ maybe people ... this sales according to the laws of warfare there is a war crime !!!
      Where is the humane WORLD COMMUNITY ??? All for humanity to fool minorities suffers for other mainstream delirium !!!
      I do not want to see this nonsense at home and for my children and grandchildren !!!
  31. Slam
    Slam 3 November 2017 15: 37
    0
    Quote: Setrac

    Your sarcasm is not clear, all of these plants work and produce products, well, maybe except ZIL.








    Quote: Setrac

    Your sarcasm is not clear, all of these plants work and produce products, well, maybe except ZIL.

    Specify volumes and where are delivered. Japan, USA, Canada, Australia, Holland, Germany-underline the necessary. Let socialism interfere for the USSR, but now what? Large diameter pipes for the northern regions, for the USSR, were bought in Germany and Japan. Neither in Ukraine nor in Russia they were produced. Not produced now.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 3 November 2017 19: 43
      +3
      Every day I drive past ... and what does it dust / smoke there - oops, a pipe factory, and the shtoz is written on these pipes? opa - THE POWER OF SIBERIA ... and where did I find such a plant in geyrop, extreme or China ??? But no, in Russia mother !!!
      And on what machines are pipes driven ??? there are both Geyropei and Chinese, there are fewer Minsk and no more Kremenchug ones, but KAMAZOV, URALS, LAWNS HOW MUCH, new and old hard workers ..... but it is also necessary, the country is BUILDING.
      Can and pathos, in fact the way it IS!