Hungary auctioned off fighter MiG-29

Hungary has begun the auction procedure for the sale of 23 decommissioned MiG-29 multipurpose fighters, with a starting price of 4,8 billion forints ($ 18 million). This was reported in its latest issue by the British edition of Defense & Security Intelligence & Analysis.

20 engines from these aircraft, missiles and more than 1,2 thousand spare parts are also on sale. Bidding is scheduled for November 14-16, but their holding must be agreed with Russia. Allegedly, the fighters put up for auction last took to the air seven years ago. Nothing is known about the technical condition of military equipment, except that some of the MiGs for many years remained under the open sky at the military airfield of the city of Kecskemet.

In 1993, Russia supplied Hungary with 28 MiG-29 to repay part of the USSR’s debt. A decade later after joining NATO, Budapest decided to abandon the use of Soviet aircraft, starting to gradually replace them with Swedish JAS-39 Gripen fighters, TASS reports

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[Observer2014]

I won’t be surprised if these planes turn out to be in Ukraine.

[Herculesic]

Only if you buy them for them, for your money! !!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Herkulesich

Only if you buy them for them, for your money! !!

Oh, come on, you’re scumbagging ... It’s not a secret that the Ukranian Air Force was heavily plucked by representatives of the LDNR militia and that the hunters just didn’t have an aviation component for the next “hack” for the fun of Washington. Given the fact that the tender should be held with the participation of Russia, the sale of aircraft to Urkain is directly excluded, but no one will guarantee that these planes will be acquired by a third party for transfer to Urkain. I won’t be surprised if it later becomes clear that this acquisition will be made with funds allocated by the United States as part of the provision of lethal weapons to Ukaine. How will the exchange of heavily worn aviation junk in one of the countries of the former Warsaw Pact be exchanged for less worn junk is another matter, but the fact that the Air Force Ukaine can be replenished with MIGs in the indicated amount and take part in “pacifying LDN” just on the eve presidential elections in Russia cannot be ruled out. In addition, the flight crew of urkaina is trained to fly these machines.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Air Force urkainy can replenish with MIGs in the specified amount and take part in "pacification of LDNR"

Suppose someone buys Khokhlam this rubbish. And who will this junk teach to fly again? Hottabych will raise them to heaven? At whose expense and who will restore these MIGs?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Vladimir16

Suppose someone buys Khokhlam this rubbish.

Bulgarians gathered to buy. The Bulgarians just have a couple of dozen MIGs that were repaired in urkain, most of which cannot fly into the sky, and what takes off causes the flight crew to have diarrhea, because they are not sure that they will be able to land the car and return home safe and sound. Along the way, they will take away living machines and components from the Hungarians, and dill will be packed with the dill that they also "restored". Well, and the latter will have to take what they give, because the choice is not great.

Quote: Vladimir16

And who will this junk teach to fly again? Hottabych will raise them to heaven?

For Svidomo, the entire flight crew, both active and in reserve, is trained to fly on the MiGs, and therefore problems to pick up a couple of dozen crews will not be a big problem for them, unless of course the flyers send hunters in three funny letters, because We saw the destruction of the Urkaini Air Force over the territory of the LNR almost online.

[pytar]

Bulgarians gathered to buy. The Bulgarians just have a couple of dozen MIGs that were repaired in urkain, most of which cannot rise to the sky

Such unverified information was received. Although for parts for the Bulgarian MiG-ah probably fit. By the way, you are mistaken - our MiGs have never been repaired in Ukraine. The Croatian MiG-21 repaired in Odessa. And the Croats had many complaints about the quality of repairs.

[210ox]

As scrap metal? And engines, equipment?

Quote: Observer2014

I won’t be surprised if these planes turn out to be in Ukraine.

[bagr69]

And if our specialists check their technical condition, maybe it makes sense for us to buy them for the purpose of modernization and resale of Syria, for example?

[antivirus]

this is the moment of truth, the Russian Federation regional or overthrow.
The whole world under the guns of our arms dealers? or just where does the "master" let it go?
Of course, we have the best modernization, but can we attach it? in reliable (friendly) + solvent hands ?????? -

[IL-18]

On the other hand, the adoption of the MiG-35 raises the question of training flight personnel. If the glider is in good condition, then replacing it with appropriate equipment, throwing away available equipment, can help with training. Especially if there is a demand abroad, then instead of manufacturing aircraft for training, you can immediately begin to execute contracts. But! First you need to look and count the appropriate specialists from the Moscow Region and MiG. Again, we are talking about $ 18k, and at the auction the price can go up significantly, Ukraine will want it, Baltic states, Poles with Romanians, Bulgarians for spare parts, Croats after losing almost all planes from the Ukrainian repair, Montenegrins may want their own IA, Indians in addition to malaysian etc.

[weksha50]

Quote: IL-18

and at an auction, the price can rise dramatically, Ukraine will want, Baltic states, Poles with Romanians, Bulgarians for spare parts, Croats after losing almost all planes from the Ukrainian repair, Montenegrins may want their own IA

Hehe ... All the rich were called ...
Yes, these holodrozhtsev, except russophobic lice in a pocket on a lasso, have nothing !!!

[IL-18]

They have it ... even $ 18 million for the whole squadron ... the toad will crush There are still parts with weapons!

[Berber]

I won’t be surprised if these planes turn out to be in Ukraine.[i] [/ i]
And I will be surprised. They still need to be repaired. And this is a lot of money.

[Finches]

Message tomorrow in UkrSMI: "23 latest MiG-29s arrived in the Armed Forces ..."

[Herculesic]

Another science fiction, or who wants to lure ukrovermaht for his loot? ??

[Herculesic]

We would buy them at a residual price!

[Sergey53]

To redeem and after repair to sell "free of charge" in good hands.

[Yujanin.]

Or under the guise of a "strategic deterrence weapon" to give friends on credit, for example)

[pavelty]

Why do we need this stuff? Repair will not be clear at what time ...

[Stas157]

Quote: Herkulesich

We would buy them at a residual price!

If $ 18 million is the price of all planes, then yes. And if Hungarians want so much for one, then let them look further for buyers.

[voyaka uh]

The Americans will probably buy a few. Although, they already have it.
We also would not hurt a couple for training.

[Herculesic]

Well, redeem or steal -Latest will come out cheaper! !!

[WUA 518]

Quote: voyaka uh

We also would not hurt a couple for training.

Here you are restless
You already have.
The Israeli Air Force uses MiG-29 fighters, which were developed in the USSR and are in service with more than 25 countries, to train pilots for fighting a likely enemy, the Second Israeli TV Channel said on Thursday.

The report shows two MiG-29s that were leased in an unnamed state and are now being operated at the Israeli Air Force Test Center.

"We studied them and use them for training battles with combat pilots. This is a good opportunity to test how our Air Force is able to cope with a potential enemy," said one of the Israeli test pilots.

[askort154]

voyaka uh .....We also would not hurt a couple for training.

You can be understood. Tired of flying on the "invisible", no one sees us tumbling in the sky. But on the obsolete MiG-29, without your upgrade, it’s a complete romance.

[WUA 518]

Quote: askort154

solid romance.

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[Zhelezyakin]

Auction sheet text:
- Almost garage storage
- minimum raid
- Service at the dealer's office
- Maximum grade

[Herculesic]

Forgot to add that without a flight in the sky of Russia! !!

[axiles100682]

Ukrainians would have taken, but if only for nothing.

[Mavrikiy]

Hungary auctioned off fighter MiG-29
We must take, 18 lyam is not money. At the factory, we’ll disassemble and assemble in Syria-Libya. Will fit.

[dedBoroded]

This stuff is covered with moss. This is not Davis Montan, in Hungary the climate is different.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: dedBoroded

This stuff is covered with moss. This is not Davis Montan, in Hungary the climate is different.

"Here you are not flat, here the climate is different" .... but the grapes are growing! So it’s better than the suburbs.
Fix it.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Mavrikiy We must take, 18 lyamov is not money.

Sell ​​your combat sofa and buy it out, don't sell it enough ... Everyone wants to be good at the expense of taxpayers .... you ghouls ....

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

Mavrikiy We must take, 18 lyamov is not money.

Sell ​​your combat sofa and buy it out, don't sell it enough ... Everyone wants to be good at the expense of taxpayers .... you ghouls ....

In fact of the matter. Previously, there were citizens of a great country, but now they are tax-payers. And petuethniki with aplomb Navalny.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Mavrikiy and now tax breakers

And why should I, with my white salary, finance other people's Air Force, am I a citizen of the Russian Federation, and not SAR or Libya?

And petuethniki

thanks to my college in my apartment, the electrician changed everything, and you?
All the same, strange people are here on the forum, the little fellow is bad, with the tower too, just say that you do not give a damn about the taxpayers of the Russian Federation, if only you would be remembered with good words by citizens of other countries ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

Mavrikiy and now tax breakers

And why should I, with my white salary, finance other people's Air Force, am I a citizen of the Russian Federation, and not SAR or Libya?

And petuethniki

thanks to my college in my apartment, the electrician changed everything, and you?
All the same, strange people are here on the forum, the little fellow is bad, with the tower too, just say that you do not give a damn about the taxpayers of the Russian Federation, if only you would be remembered with good words by citizens of other countries ...

Vocational school - good, high school - good. Thinking is a bad thing. You paid the tax, forget about it, the state itself will figure out where to spend it (state mind). You don’t have to puff up your chest and poke everyone’s nose, how good I am (I have an RFP also “white” and so? The circumstances with our government can be different. You need to understand that we are the right one).
PS. I changed the wiring in the apartment 25 years ago. True, then he changed two more apartments. Circumstances.

[Doliva63]

"Hungary auctioned off decommissioned MiG-29 fighters"

I’d take it, but, damn it, how many parking spaces have to buy in the parking lot!

[Going]

Hungary began the auction sale of 23 decommissioned multi-role fighters MiG-29,

There are a lot of people who want to buy such equipment, especially private traders.

[alatanas]

In 1993, Russia supplied Hungary with 28 MiG-29 to repay part of the USSR’s debt. A decade later after joining NATO, Budapest decided to abandon the use of Soviet aircraft, starting to gradually replace them with Swedish JAS-39 Gripen fighters, TASS reports

And when the question arose of the advisable replacement of the same MIG-29, which had been in operation since the beginning of the 80's in Bulgaria, instead of being repaired by the same JAS-39 Gripen, they raised a howl to HE about which "bros are traitors". Be silent now - "in a rag." Strange somehow!

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: alatanas

alatanas Today, 18:14 New
In 1993, Russia supplied Hungary with 28 MiG-29 to repay part of the USSR’s debt. A decade later after joining NATO, Budapest decided to abandon the use of Soviet aircraft, starting to gradually replace them with Swedish JAS-39 Gripen fighters, TASS reports

And when the question arose of the advisable replacement of the same MIG-29, which had been in operation since the beginning of the 80's in Bulgaria, instead of being repaired by the same JAS-39 Gripen, they raised a howl to HE about which "bros are traitors". Be silent now - "in a rag." Strange somehow!

All clear. Both Hungary and Bulgaria are members of the NATO bloc, whose main "probable opponent" is Russia. It would be strange if they were allowed to purchase new weapons from an adversary of NATO. (Yes, they themselves do not really want to). What kind of tararam rose when the Turks said they wanted to buy S-400 from Russia. Toli is NATO's "likely ally" - Sweden.

[pytar]

The article refers to stocks for the sale of aircraft with exhausted resources. If the planes are already unusable, what's the difference between Migi UTB or Starfighters ?! In points of scrap metal, both are well accepted.
Hungary has been exploiting the Swedish Flu for several years. Bulgaria is also going to buy new 16 from these machines. Sweden is not a member of NATO! As for the purchase of Russian military equipment of the NATO countries, that is, there are already several precedents. Of course, Brussels looks at it sideways. The issue is political influence and loss of orders. But there is one more important detail. Now Russia does not have a single-engine economical light class fighterwhich is in demand in the markets of countries of the category of Hungary, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, etc. MiG-35 turned out neither cancer nor a thing. Neither to the light class, nor to the heavy class you can write it. Russia will be late in creating such a fighter with all the ensuing consequences. And even China already has several types. It seems to me that on the Buzz Yak-130 it is possible to develop a good, light, highly maneuverable fighter, although I am not an expert on the matter.

[Alekseits]

Nothing strange, everything is natural. The Hungarians were never the "fifteenth republic", and therefore their betrayal was quite expected, but the Bulgarian turned out to be a "shot in the back" because of such a storm of indignation.

[alatanas]

"In the back" than they shot? Probably tomatoes.

[pytar]

Nope ... they threw bell pepper. He is like a "bullet with an offset CT" and from him terrible defeats are obtained.

[alatanas]

And the Bulgarians were once the "n" -th republic of the USSR?

[alatanas]

Bulgarians too

never were the "fifteenth republic"

[MOSKVITYANIN]

alatanas And when the question arose of the advisable replacement of the same MIG-29, which had been in operation since the beginning of the 80's in Bulgaria, instead of being repaired by the same JAS-39 Gripen, they raised a howl to HE about which "bros are traitors". Be silent now - "in a rag." Strange somehow!

Then the people hoped for a return to the old days, and now .... everyone does not care about Bulgaria and the Bulgarian Air Force ... we will meet old times without you, gee ....

[alatanas]

A week ago very old times!

[pytar]

And it continues ... In the same spirit:

... all do not care about Bulgaria ...

Whoever is strong in what is doing it.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Quote: alatanas

A week ago very old times!

Quote: pytar

And it continues ... In the same spirit: Whoever is strong in what is doing it.

Talk for another 5 minutes in a female voice, you’ve taken away the bucket of food, and forgot to give a new one, and you are all waiting for it ....

[pytar]

Talk another 5 minutes in a female voice

Interesting! Sound hallucinations! No offense to you, even though you offend others in violation of the site’s rules ... In fact, the information is often distorted and leads to erroneous conclusions. The reality is actually quite different ...

[mavrus]

Quote: bagr69

And if our specialists check their technical condition, maybe it makes sense for us to buy them for the purpose of modernization and resale of Syria, for example?

Of course, it can be checked ... Moreover, any potential buyer, if he does not take them for scrap, will certainly turn to specialists to assess the possibility of their restoration and the cost of repair ... But as for their redemption by Russia ... Question complicated. Do we need them? And if there is someone who wants to buy these MiGs for cheap, then it will be very excellent.

[not main]

Allegedly, auctioned fighters last took off seven years ago. Nothing is known about the technical condition of military equipment, except that some of the MiGs for many years remained in the open air at a military airfield in Kecskemét.

Kecskemét is not an airfield, but a helipad with a strip of 200 meters! And there’s nowhere to lengthen! And from this it follows that the planes did not get there on their own! And then all the consequences: no maintenance, just abandoned!

[not main]

Quote: non-primary

nonprincipal 3

I apologize! I completely forgot that there and their (Magyars) regiment stood on the other side of the city! It’s not difficult to forget, for all the time of service I have never seen or heard their work. And we have up to 4 shifts per week in OVE!