Cinema Thinking

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Still, the flu got to me. The sick-list is open, three days of forced inactivity are pushing to do household chores, put it off the shelf and watch something online. By the way, a month has already broken spears about the new creation by A. Pimenov "Crimea". It was not possible to look in the evening - my wife does not like it when I watch battle scenes with her and watch action movies, but nobody forbids it, right?

Cinema Thinking




I looked ... Probably, after all, I'll throw a weight on the scales of the critics of this movie. So I'm not a participant in those events and everything that happened afterwards (joining historical homeland) realized later, in fact, and then thought.

The first. Probably not bad fizruki and their parents lived in Ukraine. A mansion on a picturesque beach, a foreign car, a "packed" UAZ, a yacht ... However, a yacht may be hired, but this is also worth the money. Whatever one may say, it’s a pity that I didn’t live in Crimea before joining. With my engineering and construction education, the penthouse would probably have ...

The second. The main character helps the burning riot policeman to extinguish the flame. Given that there is a line of police officers behind the shields, and no one is trying to save a comrade. Although a few minutes ago the footage was shown (most likely, documentary), where in such a situation the law enforcement officers smoothly part, take the comrades who were set on fire and shoot down the flames.

Further. "Horror stories" about the buses and the "train with Bandera" burned down under Korsun are repeated. They have no evidence. Well, except for the blah blah blah on the camera of individual citizens. Even in the "youtube" video posted on the asphalt of young people of sports appearance (by the way, I did not notice women among them), and one (!) Burning vehicle. That is, confirmation of the words that ALL activists wanted to kill, destroy, etc. fail. Especially if you pay attention to what the “participant” says against the background of the whole bus (the rear window is embossed).

Fourth. Misunderstanding brought the scene, how valiant sailors "develop" agents of the Ukrainian special services, disguised as waiters! And this is in 2014, when the Crimea is still Ukraine, and they do not need to do this along the way, they are on their land. And if these are not “specialists” but radicals, then they have VERY high powers.

The fifth. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in 2014 year stated that "... It was the forces of the Crimean self-defense ..." The film also shows that the Russian troops openly seize military units of the neighboring state, land assault forces, conduct operations, and I already get lost to believe someone .

The sixth. During the second half of the film, the Ukrainian radicals (or "specialists") persistently try to inflict damage on the Russian army: shoot down a transport worker, bombard C-300 (actually they are ground-to-air), Belbek airport. Question for experts - for what? Torn apart by Maidan, did Kiev lack the war with the second most powerful army in the world? Sorry, but this, in my opinion, is prohibitive ...

But Pimenov managed to put in the mouth of the main character (which, I think, is associated with the whole of Ukraine) words reflecting the true understanding of the situation by the people of the neighboring state:
- ... Well, you all teach me ... Educate ...
- ... I hate you all for this ....
- ... In the temporarily occupied Crimea ...
- ... You did not want war ...
I personally heard these words in Ukraine, when I last visited 2017 of the year in March.

In general, my opinion is that the film turned out to be “one-time”. I do not want to revise it yet. It seems that the director and screenwriter did not work out a bit. It's a pity...
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  1. +12
    4 November 2017 04: 40
    But in general I don’t want to watch this film, for me to understand those events, there were enough reports from the places of the eyewitnesses themselves. There were more experiences than from the coolest action movie. Before that, unexpectedly (from the Russian side) everything happened, I was directly in shock! I fully support the historical choice of Crimeans and admire the MTR of Russia!
    1. +10
      4 November 2017 06: 07
      In general, my opinion is that the film was "one-time."
      they don’t make others now ... not condom films.
      Quote: andrewkor
      But in general I don’t want to watch this film, for me to understand those events there were enough for me reports from the places of the eyewitnesses themselves.

      similarly. hi
      cedar-I recommend a remedy for the treacherous "flu" ... "sleeping"
      -the same "threshing floor" disposable ...
  2. +14
    4 November 2017 05: 04
    The fifth. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in 2014 year stated that "... It was the forces of the Crimean self-defense ..." The film also shows that the Russian troops openly seize military units of the neighboring state, land assault forces, conduct operations, and I already get lost to believe someone .

    Wow, the author probably forgot that in the Crimea there was a 20 thousandth group of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, they just added MTR forces to them! It happens that a person is on sick leave. request
    Well, except for blah blah blah on the camera of individual citizens. Even in the "YouTube" laid out a view

    Even in Yu Tube, well, say a laughing Well, people are nice to you, if Odessa Khatyn is UAV, UAV, UAV, then the events under Korsun are even more so. Yes
    Like it or not, it's a pity that I did not live in Crimea before joining. With my engineering education, the penthouse would probably have ...

    Or maybe you didn’t, you are probably the only one who has a civil engineering education laughing Maybe the Crimeans first had to ask how they lived in Ukraine and how they live in Russia, and only then compare, eh? So it turns out very unpleasantly Mr. Leader.
    YesGet well.
    1. +2
      4 November 2017 17: 17
      I agree with you. Plusanul.
  3. +11
    4 November 2017 05: 34
    "... Further. The horror stories about the buses and the train with Bandera burned out near Korsun are repeated. They have no confirmation. Well, except blah blah blah on the camera of individual citizens ..."

    If this did not happen to the author, but to others, then these are “horror stories”. But the worst thing is behind the screen and behind this article. It is not shown or described. Betrayal has affected society and country. These are two floors in the building of the SBU in Kiev occupied by CIA workers. This "flu" hit Ukraine gradually and today we see the result of a serious illness that will lead to the death of the state and society. Russia managed to save Crimea from it, but will Russia itself be saved from this infection? It depends on each of us.

    I recommend a remedy for the treacherous "flu" ...

    All patriots with a holiday!
    1. +3
      4 November 2017 08: 53
      Happy holiday !!!!
  4. +11
    4 November 2017 05: 43
    Like the vast majority of Sevastopol, I joined the Crimea to the best of my ability. Personally, my opinion is that this film is somehow fake
    1. +4
      4 November 2017 08: 23
      It was necessary to shoot an action movie, without these snots about love on opposite sides of the barricades, here, because of the difference of views, relatives renounce each other, but right here, love will save the world, it will not!
    2. +14
      4 November 2017 09: 08
      How Sevastopolets fully support! The main task of the film is to hide the worst for the current power-holders: this is a manifestation of the Will of the People. Crimeans and Sevastopol residents, taking to the streets, did not really hope for help. But Russia remembered that it was the homeland, and not the patrimony of official rats. This cannot be forgiven for Sevastopol.
      Now about Korsun ... In Odessa, too, horror stories? Himself, the author is not ashamed? The friendship train did not take place thanks to the soldiers of the Sevastopol Berkut and their checkpoint at Perekop. As in 1853 and in 1941, in 2014 Sevastopol stood in the way of the fascist scum and their masters.
      1. +1
        6 November 2017 17: 45
        So Sevastopol was taken twice: in 1855 and in 1942
      2. 0
        4 January 2018 17: 23
        Train, checkpoint? Rave...
    3. +3
      4 November 2017 11: 18
      Quote: Yuri Guliy
      Personally, my opinion is that this film is somehow fake

      Better to say "colorless" ... He could not express the thoughts that the authors wanted to say ...
      1. +8
        4 November 2017 12: 11
        The point is not in thoughts, but in the complete impotence of the film. Nobody needs him. And if it weren’t for PR, then simply no one would go for it. Initially stupid and empty script. Nothing that could attract the viewer. request
        On this topic, in fact, it would be possible to rivet a peppy warrior, where the right marine or opener vigorously shoots hundreds of different law-enforcement officers or svobodovets climbing like zerg. It is clear that the operation was bloodless, but it would be the right propaganda film, which could be watched abroad.
        One could remove a political thriller in the style of Tom Clancy, where there is a confrontation between systems - politicians or special services. A clash of intellects, will and tactics, deciding the fate of a piece of the planet with a population of more than 2 million.
        Even a light comedy in the style of a Green Van with detective elements could be shot.
        Well, they chose the next melodrama, which obviously no one would see more than once. And obviously no one will go to her en masse. request
  5. +7
    4 November 2017 06: 58
    when you go too far with sweet ... maybe one place will stick together ....
    when you go too far in alcohol ... you are sick to vomit ..
    it’s time for our authorities to finish off ... leavened patriotism is already too much ...
    there may be enough button accordion with a shirt to tear ... maybe it’s better to do things ??? ... at least bring a little order in the country ....
    and even patriotism may not save ... our puppeteers ....
    1. +5
      4 November 2017 11: 38
      Quote: kepmor
      it’s time for our authorities to finish off ... leavened patriotism is already too much ...

      What are you, what are you? belay
      This is just the beginning!!! There will be many more popular crafts fellow
  6. +5
    4 November 2017 07: 36
    The fifth. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in 2014 year stated that "... It was the forces of the Crimean self-defense ..." The film also shows that the Russian troops openly seize military units of the neighboring state, land assault forces, conduct operations, and I already get lost to believe someone .
    The author, in YouTube is full of material about how our special forces storm and disarm Ukrainian military units, important objects. Thanks to their clear-cut actions, they managed to avoid blood and quickly take control of the whole Crimea. There is no secret in this and the guys really have something to be proud of. the president then said that "... It was the Crimean self-defense forces ..." on purpose, for operational necessity and for covering up the whole big operation.
    1. +1
      7 November 2017 12: 45
      Went to this movie. For a long time for the first time I wanted to get up and leave. And about the videos on YouTube about those events, I have a strong impression that the filmmakers did not see them.
  7. +2
    4 November 2017 07: 49
    The fifth. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in 2014 year stated that "... It was the forces of the Crimean self-defense ..." The film also shows that the Russian troops openly seize military units of the neighboring state, land assault forces, conduct operations, and I already get lost to believe someone .
    ... Both that and another are true .. At us in the port of the Caucasus there was a loading of troops .. occurred on the 5th and 6th berths ...
  8. +8
    4 November 2017 08: 44
    let's start:
    - the life of the physical education workers, yes, my eyes hurt ...
    - about the fire ... would you pass by ????
    - there is no evidence of a "train of friendship" ??? what are you ... and Bandera nice people who never want to cut us .... well, or shoot ....
    - more about agents of special services .... and who told you that Bendera agents of Ukrainian intelligence services ???? my opinion is that this is a full-fledged military residency of the CIA ..
    - Do you think that places of permanent basing are without counterintelligence cover ???? anti-terror is not being worked out ????? but what do you .... I am deeply convinced that there is also the FSB, besides the army (navy) counterintelligence, it works tightly .... and the Khokhostan radicals, I repeat, it’s not a squalid creature, but a wicked one ....
    - why didn’t you see the video how unarmed people surround Ukrainian units ???? do not give output technology ??? did not have??? did not see??? your visual memory is selective .... if the MTR didn’t harness blood, there would be a sea ... everything was planned as in a mattress ...
    - The S-300 can fire both on ground and what’s most cool and on surface targets .... on the subject of "harm" ... at about the same time, Russian territory was fired by artillery of the mortally dead ... not a lot of two or three shells. .. what do you think for what purpose ??? A question for connoisseurs - for what? but precisely for this - the provocation of a full-scale conflict on the order of pin-tan, and no one asked Kiev whether he wants a conflict or doesn’t want, it’s not a servile matter to “desire” and “think”, a slave must fulfill ....
    - the behavior of the heroine of the film raises many questions ... like the behavior of Ukraine ... in general, this whole "revolution of guides" is like a "holiday of not obedience" .... that's just the kids played in the land ....
    I didn’t like the film at all .... Olympus Inferno was better ....
    1. +2
      4 November 2017 13: 25
      Olympus Inferno was better ....

      "Olympus" looked in pieces .. the feeling that a hasty "handicraft on his knee", if only to give out at least something in hot pursuit. negative Haste is clearly needed only when hunting for fleas. Yes, and with the "creative" we have, the feeling is all bad, very bad! am
      The Americans, on the other hand, got into a heroic film about heroic Georgians and a heroic tie-eater, who has now become homeless (or homeless? How is it more correct?). I didn’t watch the film, the description on Wikipedia was enough. But this delusional, but pathos "product of propaganda" will look more people, especially abroad! And they will believe in their version. angry
  9. +3
    4 November 2017 15: 37
    Honestly, the analysis of the author is no ...
  10. 0
    4 November 2017 16: 01
    You can still make a discount. The film is artistic, not documentary.
  11. +1
    4 November 2017 17: 03
    They are trying to inflict damage on the Russian army: to bring down a transporter, to fire S-300 missiles (in fact, they are ground-to-air class) Belbek airport.

    On TV, the news showed live firing from the C300 complex on ships at sea.
  12. 0
    4 November 2017 18: 40
    Do not be lazy. Influenza is treated for a day or two nights. You drop green stuff in water and moisten your throat constantly. Exactly a day later it releases. Good health to you.
  13. +3
    4 November 2017 21: 33
    I watched the film recently. Such a dull g .... for a long time not seen. Rather, I have never seen. Even stupid soap operas and cheap series like love and about it capture and somehow touch. And this ........ Nothing is disclosed. Neither the theme of love, nor history, nor patriotism. Nothing at all. Some nonsense. The film is NO.
  14. +1
    5 November 2017 09: 47
    The creators of cinema always have a choice, but they firmly believe in the canons of successful cinema, the popularity of topics, action, human relations (usually between a man and a woman). Since this is not a documentary, filmmakers preferred a ton of gag to give the product interest. It turned out what happened.
    The authors were three years late with the topic.
    The Americans won in the 2 series The Brave showed the secret CIA base in Sverdlovsk (ORDiLO). And nothing — they flew in from helicopters from Inzhirlik — they shot all the “bad Russians” and flew away. For them, there’s no difference between Syria and Ukraine that there’s Tayota with machine guns and warped Russian speech.
  15. +1
    6 November 2017 23: 09
    Filmmakers need to be hackneyed on the nose: Hollywood writes the story. They will make a film about the Americans being on the moon, which means they were. And ours is legally forbidden to make films about historical events. Let them take off about housewives.
  16. 0
    7 November 2017 12: 52
    Having looked at Ukrovsky Guards with Gorbunov in one of the main roles over the weekend at Voenchronik, I realized that it can be much worse. And the money for going to the cinema seems to be not so pitiful. wink

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