The former head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the details of putting the Crimea to Russia

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In February 2014, Ukrainian politicians were going to drown Crimea in blood, but did not take any action to preserve the peninsula as part of the country. This is evidenced by the protocol of the survey of the former chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) Yuri Ilyin. Document on its page in Facebook posted by Maksim Gerasko, lawyer for fugitive Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

Ilyin testifies that in the winter of 2014, the events on the Maidan in Kiev caused more and more fears among the residents of Crimea. At the same time, in personal conversations, the opposition emphasized that they did not intend to establish a dialogue with the Crimeans.



The former head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the details of putting the Crimea to Russia


In particular, Vitali Klitschko, who is now the mayor of the Ukrainian capital, promised that the peninsula "will be treated even tougher than Kiev." In turn, the leader of the Svoboda party, Oleg Tyagnibok, said that the Crimeans would “wash themselves in blood”. “Let's break them like a broom,” he promised.

However, immediately after the start of mass actions for the reunification of Crimea with Russia, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Igor Tenyukh was afraid to withdraw the ships put on alert from their basing points. And at the end of February 2014, General Volodymyr Zamana, in agreement with the acting Ukrainian president at that time, Oleksandr Turchinov, lowered the readiness of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the peninsula from full to permanent.

Crimea became part of Russia after a referendum held in March 2014, in which the majority of the region's residents who voted supported such a decision. Kiev, the European Union and the United States refused to recognize the results of the plebiscite. Moscow insists that the procedure for joining the region was in accordance with the norms of international law.
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  1. +5
    2 November 2017 13: 26
    So what? One would have brought out the leaky troughs to heat, the other would have sent them to slaughter. Maybe Odessa and Kherson didn’t even have kakal.
    1. +15
      2 November 2017 13: 31
      It remains to shoot a cartoon application film:
      `` how the Zaporozhye Cossacks went beyond the Crimea ''
      1. +2
        2 November 2017 13: 46
        That's right, well noticed laughing
        1. +17
          2 November 2017 13: 59
          History did not know such precedents that 80% of the personnel of the fleet went over to the side of the axressor and the occupier. laughing
          1. +13
            2 November 2017 15: 06
            Maybe more would have passed, but they were afraid for the relatives who remained on the territory controlled by the ukrokhunt
          2. 0
            2 November 2017 15: 45
            13.59. Black! Is October 1917 not suitable?
            1. +3
              2 November 2017 16: 47
              Not really. Nobody called the Bolsheviks "aggressor" and "occupier". Then people were still in their right mind! laughing
              1. +2
                2 November 2017 17: 06
                16.47 BMP! I am not in the sense that I am an aggressor and an occupier. I mean that almost the entire army and navy went over to the side of the Bolsheviks. It seems 80 percent. hi
                1. +3
                  2 November 2017 17: 12
                  Well, if so, then I agree! good
                2. 0
                  2 November 2017 22: 16
                  What other army? What are you talking about? in October, the 17th army no longer existed.
                  1. Bat
                    0
                    3 November 2017 21: 47
                    I do not agree, zema. The royal army, officially, was dissolved in 1918
                    1. 0
                      3 November 2017 23: 57
                      And unofficially? In the spring, they could no longer even launch an offensive. After the February revolution, in general, they began to leave the front en masse and move home. And the Bolsheviks were supported primarily by the mass of soldiers and not by the army.
            2. +1
              2 November 2017 18: 12
              Quote: Region 34
              Black! Is October 1917 not suitable?

              And who went over to the side of the "OCCUPANTS" and "AGGRESSORS"? Remind
          3. 0
            3 November 2017 22: 13
            And bloody and disgusting, eager to establish a normal life.
            I will note - it is about the fleet.
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      3. +12
        2 November 2017 13: 50
        And they see in a dream an operation to release:

        1. +7
          2 November 2017 14: 02
          Under an agreement of 1997, the Ukrainian Navy was transferred 43 warships, 132 ships and boats, 12 aircraft, 30 helicopters, 227 coastal facilities, a significant amount of equipment, weapons, ammunition and other property ... .. Now one Saiga is a dacha and that one with an inoperative latrine ... laughing
          1. +9
            2 November 2017 14: 06
            Oh, and how much other good? it’s necessary to have talent, to squander such a thing, not everyone is given.
            1. +6
              2 November 2017 15: 21
              Guys, we also got a lot of Che dried out .. And we cut submarines and missiles and BZHRK for the sake of amers, so not only Ukrainians.
              1. 0
                3 November 2017 10: 46
                About civilian objects and say nothing. How much was cut into metal in the 90s? From machine tools to gates. How many buildings are simply dismantled in bricks cannot be counted. Who will be responsible for this?
      4. win
        +10
        2 November 2017 14: 27
        The President of Ukraine said that he considers Crimea to be a primordially Ukrainian territory,
        because their "grandfathers and fathers shed blood for him."
        The only thing he forgot to clarify is that the grandfathers of the members of the current Government of Ukraine, basically, shed blood as part of the SS "Galicia" and "Nachtigall" units.
        1. +1
          2 November 2017 16: 50
          The President of Ukraine is a huckster. Let him count it - for him it is a common thing: to count someone else's property! Yes
    2. +12
      2 November 2017 13: 32
      When on any forums I read the squeals of Svidomo that they are about to return Crimea back, I am shaken by paroxysms of laughter! As for 2014, everything was played out like clockwork! Klyuchko, Tyagnibok, Yatsynyuk, Parashenko ... and most importantly Pindo ... the Americans stayed in-oh-oh-oh-oh-t with such a nose! What they wanted to do there 3 years ago will now be of interest only to the investigators and judges of the Military Tribunal ... laughing
      1. +2
        2 November 2017 13: 34
        They can only shit under the door ... Clowns.
        1. win
          +7
          2 November 2017 14: 25
          The world community is extremely concerned about the situation in Crimea.
          Western news agencies are outraged: where is the blood? where are the explosions? where are the refugees? what to write about?
      2. +1
        2 November 2017 13: 55
        I would like to add from myself, colleague, also specialized doctors
      3. 0
        2 November 2017 14: 22
        that in the winter of 2014, the events on the Maidan in Kiev caused more and more fears among the residents of Crimea. At the same time, in personal conversations, the opposition emphasized that they did not intend to establish a dialogue with the Crimeans.

        the old comment is enough:
        antivirus 2 June 19, 2017 10:20 | Crimean border: 168 kilometers of torment arc
        As for the Crimeans, for them a visit to Ukraine is a difficult and sometimes very dangerous quest. Those who at one time renounced Ukrainian citizenship officially and handed in a “passport with a trident” have no options in principle.
        ON APRIL 16 D arrived 2 PEOPLE from Dzhankoy. BUY A MACHINE (ENGINE OVERHEATED)
        -what did before the referendum. how did you live?
        - nothing. any hunting cartridges bought
    3. +5
      2 November 2017 14: 04
      There was an army of 20 thousand in the Crimea, there was equipment, no matter what kind of fleet. And then a hundred polite men in the "Warrior" outfit came and drove the whole army from the peninsula. Well, not all of them, most of them decided to go over to the side of justice, but the rest, drooping their noses and collecting a bundle of things, trudged like beaten dogs towards Kukuev ... smile
      1. +3
        2 November 2017 16: 26
        Well, somehow it was still not so.
        if my memory serves me, I will not vouch ...
        the disbanded contingent of Russian troops (army, navy) according to an agreement between Russia and Ukraine was about 25 thousand people, in fact, at the time of the events there were about 20 thousand people in Crimea, in a short time they drove another 5 thousand, mobilized, which is called selected and in full combat. The size of the contingent according to the agreement was not exceeded, but the kaklov was pinned rigidly, albeit politely)) right in the places of deployment (in military towns, barracks, etc.) and still had enough to maintain order in key cities (Simferopol, Sevastopol, Kerch, etc.) Further)
        Correct if wrong.
        And the fact that most of the Ukrainian troops went over to the Russian side ... well, Duc ... consent is a product with the complete non-resistance of the parties))
        1. +2
          2 November 2017 19: 04
          Quote: den3080
          but they pinned the kaklov tough, albeit politely))

          Two years ago, on the way home, I picked up three Marines, they celebrated the day of the special forces.
          On the way, their commander told how they stood up for waitresses in a cafe in Sevastopol, even before joining the girls, Ukrov warriors molested the girls.
          As those grief, the warriors apologized to them and claimed that they were brothers. And the Russian military is respected.
          In general, as soon as they were put into the stall, they were immediately made of silk steel.
          He told all this without hiding his contempt.
    4. +5
      2 November 2017 16: 00
      Quote: 210ox
      One would bring leaky troughs to drown, the other would be sent to the slaughter

      so they tried to go but ...
    5. +1
      2 November 2017 22: 14
      This is bullshit and misinformation.
      - What ships where, and most importantly, why could they withdraw at the end of February 2014?
      - One of the reasons why the annexation of Crimea took place "without a hitch" is that no one in Kiev understood what to do, and actually had no opportunity to do anything special. They clapped their eyes for a month, and nothing more. Before that, they had been diligently undermining the state for 2 months, discrediting the power structures, and burning down the barracks of the VVs. They broke into power, but for this, in fact, it is not enough to simply "take Kiev". You also need to build some verticals of people under you. It took them up to two months. There was a case when Ukrainian military units were blocked, invited to the news program of the Maidan defense minister and brought him into direct contact with the blocked unit, the military asked him the question "what to do, give an order, should we surrender or fight?" how could. They only regained consciousness by the month of April, only by the events in Donbass, and decided what to do. At the same time, the Minister of Defense and the head of the General Staff were changed twice. They collected all these scarecrows of the Maidan for the National Guard, held an information campaign about the war with Russia.
  2. +7
    2 November 2017 13: 27
    Yes, everything is already. Crimea left for Russia. What to discuss ... laughing
    1. +10
      2 November 2017 13: 33
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What to discuss ...

      Well, give these "heroes" instead of a fight, at least wave your fists ... lol
      1. +6
        2 November 2017 13: 53
        Jedi hi For some reason I think that the 404s have not read Cervantes - fighting with windmills is pointless and harmful.
        1. +5
          2 November 2017 13: 59
          Of course they didn’t read it - they hold another classics in high esteem, written by the possessed corporal. negative
      2. +22
        2 November 2017 13: 54
        They like to wave, especially straw for fat and dream:

        1. +5
          2 November 2017 14: 00
          Typical hucksters and keepers - I can't name them otherwise.
      3. +5
        2 November 2017 13: 55
        Quote: Jedi
        Give you these "heroes" instead of fighting, at least wave your fists.

        Aha! If they caught up with us, we would show them. Oh, and only ...
        1. +5
          2 November 2017 14: 03
          It's good to yap out of the kennel - no one will get it with a kick. And if a grenade? lol
          1. +6
            2 November 2017 14: 40
            Jedi, you humane. ODAB better Hephaestus will help laughing then it will be easier to paint over than to scrape off
            1. +5
              2 November 2017 14: 44
              It may be so. But how much is ODAB and how much is RGD-5? So I'm not humane - I'm homely. lol
    2. +2
      2 November 2017 13: 39
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Yes, everything is already. Crimea left for Russia. What to discuss ... laughing

      Why wonder now what would have happened. There is a fact - Crimea is ours! And that's it!
      1. +2
        2 November 2017 14: 56
        Why wonder now what would have happened. There is a fact - Crimea is ours!

        Two deputies are sitting in a fool at the meeting. One is guessing a crossword puzzle, the other is busy playing solitaire.
        The first to the second: - Four letters, the first "K", a peninsula in which Russia promises to invest 6 billion dollars.
        Second: First, why only 6 billion? Secondly, why suddenly Cyprus became a peninsula? belay
  3. +15
    2 November 2017 13: 28
    VVP did everything on time. Our President's flair is like a husky. Obviously. This is how the President of Russia should be. There will be tension when he does not run. Who then? Time is ticking. We are not getting younger. Who? That is the question! Not it is necessary to exaggerate about bulk, sobchak and other capelin.
    1. +3
      2 November 2017 13: 41
      Quote: VERESK
      VVP did everything on time. Our President's flair is like a husky. Obviously. This is how the President of Russia should be. There will be tension when he does not run. Who then? Time is ticking. We are not getting younger. Who? That is the question! Not it is necessary to exaggerate about bulk, sobchak and other capelin.

      deflection is counted.
      but what flair?
      everything was calculated. and Putin, alas, was not in charge of this game.
      the strengthening of the group in Sevastopol began in October, when there was no Maidan yet.
      1. +13
        2 November 2017 13: 53
        Quote: ID90
        deflection counted

        And your nonsense, no!
        I don't like Putin, but still:
        Do you want to say that they were going to squeeze the Crimea back in 13?
        And if not the Supreme Commander-in-Chief made the decision to send specialists to Crimea, then who?
        May be you? And, of course not, where are the `` daughters of Crimean officers '' ...
        1. +6
          2 November 2017 14: 00
          Logall Don't waste time direct.
          1. +2
            2 November 2017 14: 07
            Quote: VERESK
            Logall Don't waste time direct.

            but you do not need to be rude, licking you are ours.
        2. +2
          2 November 2017 14: 12
          Quote: Logall
          Quote: ID90
          deflection counted

          And your nonsense, no!
          I don't like Putin, but still:
          Do you want to say that they were going to squeeze the Crimea back in 13?
          And if not the Supreme Commander-in-Chief made the decision to send specialists to Crimea, then who?
          May be you? And, of course not, where are the `` daughters of Crimean officers '' ...

          Putin is just a brand. but well promoted.
          why he was allowed to squeeze Crimea is another question.
          1. +9
            2 November 2017 14: 27
            Quote: ID90
            why was he allowed to squeeze out

            Allowed? Who? Names can be omitted ... Where does the information come from ..?
            1. +1
              2 November 2017 14: 29
              Quote: Logall
              Quote: ID90
              why was he allowed to squeeze out

              Allowed? Who? Names can be omitted ... Where does the information come from ..?

              analyze 20 Putin years and you will understand everything.
              1. 0
                2 November 2017 14: 50
                what dear do you use? share pzhl ....
              2. +9
                2 November 2017 15: 01
                Quote: ID90
                analyze 20 Putin years and you will understand everything.

                Can you be more specific, What exactly, you, prompted this thought? And then with such arguments, I, on anyone I can shove! On you including ...
                1. +2
                  2 November 2017 15: 10
                  Quote: Logall
                  Quote: ID90
                  analyze 20 Putin years and you will understand everything.

                  Can you be more specific, What exactly, you, prompted this thought? And then with such arguments, I, on anyone I can shove! On you including ...

                  1. The FRS controls the financial system of Russia.
                  2. The results of the predatory privatization have not been revised.
                  3. Oligarchic capitalism in the country has reached unprecedented heights.
                  4. The dismantling of the Soviet social institutions (education, health care) is almost complete.
                  5. Chechnya has been "soaked" with money and flirting with the Basmachis will not lead to anything good.

                  Enough for you?
                  1. +9
                    2 November 2017 15: 27
                    I already see all this! But there was no answer to the question: who controls Putin?
                    All of the above is the result of a negligent attitude towards governing the country. He played into foreign policy, and threw all the internal on an iPhone ...
                    In the early 2000s, everything was different ...
                    1. +2
                      2 November 2017 15: 44
                      Quote: Logall
                      I already see all this! But there was no answer to the question: who controls Putin?
                      All of the above is the result of a negligent attitude towards governing the country. He played into foreign policy, and threw all the internal on an iPhone ...
                      In the early 2000s, everything was different ...

                      whoever sets, he rules.
                      1. +9
                        2 November 2017 15: 57
                        Quote: ID90
                        whoever sets, he rules.

                        Boris Nikolaevich? From the other world? Sessions of Spiritism or the Calls of the Devil?
                        I am impressed by your dissent, he himself is, but in my opinion you are being driven ...
                        Good luck comrade!
                        Pysy: write more carefully! Yesterday one, our views, Banned ...
                      2. raf
                        0
                        3 November 2017 23: 11
                        whoever sets, he rules.
                        Your answer looks like the famous, children's: "Who, who, grandfather fir!" laughing You are like Americans: "We have evidence, but we can’t bring it, because they are secret!" wassat
        3. 0
          3 November 2017 00: 08
          Quote: Logall
          Quote: ID90
          deflection counted

          This clown has just escaped from the censor, he hasn't even changed his vocabulary, and you talk to him like a person.
      2. +1
        2 November 2017 14: 57
        Remind, pls, when in Novorossiysk they began to rapidly complete the construction of the fleet base?
        Before or after the Maidan?
    2. +5
      2 November 2017 13: 42
      Hello Dima! Where will he go, Vladimir Vladimirovich! Generally, it’s not an option at all, it’s laughter through tears, the iPhone will not be supported, but more ... That's it, there are no options. So only GDP
      1. +3
        2 November 2017 13: 58
        Great, Funnel! drinks Who knows what will happen next. Here in a closed city you are boiling nemeryanny. On the 16th VVP arrives at the plant. But MOX is not ready! lol They also want to build a remix fuel. I don’t know what it’s yet. They haven’t started one, they are starting to cook up another. Money is poured in unmeasured, for half a percent. 40 units is considered normal. By radioactive contamination. On the surface-0. On MOXE. -minimum 80. Apelsetz full! We typed the guys from the street, in general, if you go into details, guys in suits and silent ones will come. So, I will not say anything.
        1. +1
          2 November 2017 14: 15
          Quote: VERESK
          Great, Funnel! drinks Who knows what will happen next. Here in a closed city you are boiling nemeryanny. On the 16th VVP arrives at the plant. But MOX is not ready! lol They also want to build a remix fuel. I don’t know what it’s yet. They haven’t started one, they are starting to cook up another. Money is poured in unmeasured, for half a percent. 40 units is considered normal. By radioactive contamination. On the surface-0. On MOXE. -minimum 80. Apelsetz full! We typed the guys from the street, in general, if you go into details, guys in suits and silent ones will come. So, I will not say anything.

          KU forgot to add at the end. your idol has ruled for twenty years, and the mess is growing.
        2. +3
          2 November 2017 14: 19
          Quote: VERESK
          He arrives at the VVP plant on the 16th, but MOX is not ready!

          what
          Seversk? wink
          Hi! drinks
          Here you go:
          1. +4
            2 November 2017 14: 26
            Hello, Evil! At the gas chemical complex. Zheleznogorsk. Wait singing. The Banshee will rub me on the floor again. We have guys drowning in Seversk in January. And they have business trips, we will choke in our saliva with envy. Two business trips, a car!
    3. +8
      2 November 2017 13: 44
      Quote: VERESK
      Our President's flair is like a husky.

      The reconnaissance worked as it should. The analytics were right in their conclusions. The President did not chew ... The result is visible.
  4. +1
    2 November 2017 13: 44
    In turn, the leader of the Svoboda party, Oleg Tyagnibok, said that the Crimeans would “wash themselves in blood”. “Let's break them like a broom,” he promised.
    it melted by itself recourse
  5. +7
    2 November 2017 13: 56
    It's just that Bandera's junta, which staged a coup in Ukraine, was splashing urine from fear from all their crevices at that time. Therefore, there was no opposition. And this clowning continues to this day. Fuck heroes.
    1. +1
      2 November 2017 14: 52
      How to explain to the neighbors that the elevator is already ours and do not need to mark it with urine? laughing No.
  6. 0
    2 November 2017 14: 17
    Quote: Funnels
    Hello Dima! Where will he go, Vladimir Vladimirovich! Generally, it’s not an option at all, it’s laughter through tears, the iPhone will not be supported, but more ... That's it, there are no options. So only GDP
  7. +1
    2 November 2017 14: 23
    It is so good that the peninsula was able - with God's help - to swim! !! good
  8. 0
    2 November 2017 17: 28
    double swineral
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  10. 0
    2 November 2017 19: 16
    Quote: Siegen
    The President of Ukraine said that he considers Crimea to be a primordially Ukrainian territory,
    because their "grandfathers and fathers shed blood for him."
    The only thing he forgot to clarify is that the grandfathers of the members of the current Government of Ukraine, basically, shed blood as part of the SS "Galicia" and "Nachtigall" units.

    For one Galician or Nachtigallian, there are 30 Russians on the side of the Nazis, and this is 1,2-1,4 million people. And, unlike the Russians, in Nuremberg they were not recognized as collaborators.
    1. +2
      2 November 2017 21: 23
      Quote: Slam
      For one Galician or Nachtigallian, there are 30 Russians on the side of the Nazis, and this is 1,2-1,4 million people.

      Share the source of information
      Quote: Slam
      , unlike the Russians, in Nuremberg they were not recognized as collaborators.

      Well yes ? This is probably in a parallel universe another Nuremberg was?
      1. raf
        0
        3 November 2017 23: 18
        Well yes ? This is probably in a parallel universe another Nuremberg was?
        Alternative specialists! Draw them!
  11. 0
    2 November 2017 21: 45
    aback with fear! Russia’s determination in Ossetia in 2008 was probably a good lesson for them. and now yapping from around the corner
  12. 0
    3 November 2017 12: 56
    Well, not a nation, but CLOWNS, it is very good that they showed their essence, which they had been hiding since 1654, it is time to take away from them everything that they gave, and those who disagree ....., BABY YAR is big.