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Russia has no data on the ability of the DPRK to strike at the US

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Moscow has no confirmation that the DPRK has nuclear-warhead missiles capable of flying to continental America, reports RIA News message source in the Russian delegation to the UN General Assembly.




No confirmation,
said the source.

According to him, the DPRK authorities would like "everyone to think so, including because they are not attacked."

If someone attacks them ... there will be a big problem absolutely for everyone
noted the diplomat.

But there is every reason to believe that no one will attack them anyway. Because they are surrounded by China and Russia. We do not want this to happen, but we do not want North Korea to develop its nuclear missile program,
He stressed.

Earlier, the head of the Pentagon, James Mattis, said that the threat from the DPRK due to missile and nuclear tests has increased. At the same time, he stressed that any use of Pyongyang weapons mass destruction will entail a crushing action by the United States.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 2 November 2017 10: 15 New
    +7
    To the defenders this statement is that the hare has a brake light ..
    1. Logall
      Logall 2 November 2017 10: 19 New
      13
      For them, a good brake light is a vigorous brake light!
      We, with his help, have been stopping them for almost 70 years ...
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 2 November 2017 10: 21 New
        10
        Near Moscow no confirmation North Korea’s possession of nuclear warhead missiles capable of reaching continental America

        As there is no refutation. wink
        1. cniza
          cniza 2 November 2017 10: 46 New
          +2
          They are already up and down, being sure that if not Russia then China knows for sure whether or not ... we will wait for an answer from China.
          1. Logall
            Logall 2 November 2017 10: 53 New
            10
            Quote: cniza
            They are already up and down, being sure that if not Russia then China knows for sure whether there is or

            If only they had broken their heads about Cuba! - '' did the Russians manage in time or not? ''
          2. Jedi
            Jedi 2 November 2017 10: 57 New
            +4
            The Chinese will speak out just as vaguely and vaguely. wink
            1. cniza
              cniza 2 November 2017 13: 11 New
              +1
              Well, about the fog, they will give any head start. lol
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 2 November 2017 13: 15 New
                +4
                That's for sure - the USA and they don’t know how. laughing
                1. cniza
                  cniza 2 November 2017 13: 21 New
                  +1
                  And Uncle C remembers Trump’s “dessert”.
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 2 November 2017 13: 25 New
                    +4
                    Quote: cniza
                    And Uncle C remembers Trump’s “dessert”.

                    good lol
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 2 November 2017 22: 58 New
        0
        DPRK while juniors in this matter.
    2. Finches
      Finches 2 November 2017 10: 20 New
      +6
      DPRK is an extremely closed country! Putin is right, only the Great Juche knows what they have there ... Therefore, as the comedian said:"Surprise boo-o-det!" laughing
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 2 November 2017 10: 40 New
        +4
        Funny video ... on New York actor drove ...
        1. Litvinov
          Litvinov 2 November 2017 15: 08 New
          0
          Thanks! I watched the video with pleasure. Smiled !!!
    3. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 2 November 2017 11: 39 New
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      To the defenders this statement is that the hare has a brake light ..


      Yes, and we have little joy - the unpredictable Eun, with a nuclear baton on the border, with missiles reaching Moscow, does not seem to appreciate the USSR’s previous assistance too much.
      According to his logic, since Russia imposed sanctions against the DPRK, it is not such a reliable ally that puts the Russian Federation in his eyes, if not on a par with the United States, then not a friend and not an enemy.
      North Korea has increased its nuclear arsenal and will begin to communicate with Russia differently - unpredictably.
  2. Dezinto
    Dezinto 2 November 2017 10: 16 New
    +2
    Yes Yes. And we can’t imagine close.

    I don’t understand anything at all, he speaks for Moscow, telling what he knows or doesn’t know Moscow ..... so what?
  3. dojjdik
    dojjdik 2 November 2017 10: 32 New
    +1
    Kim Eun needs to sell the surplus of atomic missiles to the Philippines, then you can keep Australia and New Zealand at bay, where the swaggering and smug bourgeois pigs, most of them Britons and Jews, leave quietly so that they are confident in the third world they have no chance, unlike the first and second; will sit somewhere behind the "scaffolds" they will not work
  4. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 2 November 2017 10: 35 New
    +4
    Russia and China will not allow the United States to unleash a large-scale war with the DPRK, the states are too close and there is a risk of getting "wrong" .... the stripes know this and therefore are looking for options ..... [i] By the way, today is a public holiday, namely "November 2, 1721 in St. Petersburg, Peter I took the imperial title, and Russia was proclaimed an empire"
    1. Cruel beaver
      Cruel beaver 2 November 2017 11: 10 New
      +1
      What time! And I didn’t know ... Thanks for the interesting info.
      ... I see no reason not to drink!
      Be sure to tell my neighbors in the garage tonight! We’ll sit .... There is a reason. laughing
    2. andrewkor
      andrewkor 2 November 2017 11: 44 New
      0
      What style? And, anyway, in two weeks I’ll note again, just in case!
  5. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 2 November 2017 11: 06 New
    0
    But there is every reason to believe that after all no one will attack them. Because they are surrounded by China and Russia.
    Words not of a boy, but of a husband. Keep it up, Russian diplomacy! good
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 November 2017 11: 41 New
    +1
    If someone attacks them ... will a big problem for everyone,

    It’s hard not to agree. And the Americans want to wish for what they do not have - prudence.
  7. Berkut24
    Berkut24 2 November 2017 12: 02 New
    0
    Russia has no data on the ability of the DPRK to strike at the US

    ... and there is only one way to verify this.
  8. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 2 November 2017 12: 49 New
    +1
    Moscow has no confirmation that North Korea has nuclear-powered missiles capable of reaching continental America, a source in the Russian delegation to the UN General Assembly reports to RIA Novosti.

    A potential missile to throw 1000 kg per 12000 km. DPRK has (the Unha-3 space rocket) since December 2012. It has two successful satellite launches in a 600 km-synchronous circular sun orbit. The rocket is 30 meters long and on high boiling fuel.
    They successfully tested on the ground and then 6 times in flight (1 time on Hwason-10, 3 times on Hwason-12 and 2 times on Hwason-14) the thermal protection of warheads when entering the atmosphere.
    They have 6 successful nuclear tests with the latter from 260 to 540 kilotons, depending on the magnitude recorded according to Richter 6,1 (South Korea and Norway) or 6,3 (USA and China).
    After all, Russia has no confirmation. What is needed to obtain such a confirmation? Firing ICBMs at full range and with a real warhead in the Pacific? Is this whistling to see for confirmation? Did any nuclear power conduct such an ICBM assault? As far as I know, the USA, Russia and China conducted such tests, with a real nuclear warhead, only with medium-range missiles.
    “But there is every reason to believe that after all no one will attack them. Because they are surrounded by China and Russia.

    North Korea beat surrounded by Russia (USSR) and China in 1950, but still the United States attacked them. The US announced that the DPRK is part of the "axis of evil" along with Iraq and Iran. Then the USA attacked Iraq and no one in Russia and China raised a finger. Now the United States is threatening Iran, despite the agreement that Iran is fulfilling and there is no visible reaction of Russia and China. The US is bombing Syria and Russia and China are silent and pretend that they do not notice. Russia and China voted for the no-fly zone in Libya and did nothing when they bombed this country. What reasons do the DPRK think that after their disarmament the US will not attack them because Russia and China will not allow this? Do they rather, on the contrary, have more reason to think that Russia and China are helping the United States disarm them first and then attack?
  9. spiriolla-45
    spiriolla-45 2 November 2017 13: 01 New
    0
    If not for nuclear weapons, then Una befell the fate of Miloshivech, Hussein and Gaddafi. So decide to have or not to have?
  10. padded jacket
    padded jacket 2 November 2017 16: 50 New
    +1
    Rather, the DPRK does not yet have missiles capable of reaching the United States, but in order to survive they need to work on it and “get” such missiles otherwise the Washington regime will destroy them.
    We support the Supreme Commander with weapons
  11. Old26
    Old26 2 November 2017 17: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Kostadinov
    Moscow has no confirmation that North Korea has nuclear-powered missiles capable of reaching continental America, a source in the Russian delegation to the UN General Assembly reports to RIA Novosti.

    A potential missile to throw 1000 kg per 12000 km. DPRK has (the Unha-3 space rocket) since December 2012. It has two successful satellite launches in a 600 km-synchronous circular sun orbit. The rocket is 30 meters long and on high boiling fuel.

    KOSTADINOV !!!! Stop TO RAVE!!!!!! Rocket was able TAKE ONCE ONCE into orbit a cargo weighing in One hundred kilograms. Once, not TWOas you say. And this does not mean at all that it is capable of casting 1 ton per 12000 km. Stop raving ...
    High fuel DOES NOT MEAN, what is it LONG STORAGE. Long-term storage is an ampouled storage option. What nafig long-stored when the rocket is fueled before launch

    Quote: Kostadinov
    They successfully tested on the ground and then 6 times in flight (1 time on Hwason-10, 3 times on Hwason-12 and 2 times on Hwason-14) the thermal protection of warheads when entering the atmosphere.

    And what if the Koreans experienced something in flight? What is the point of testing ICBM warheads when firing at medium range ???? Damn, connoisseur ... You know, on the basis of the same "troubles", the combat units tested at medium range were then put on ICBMs. and at the first ee ultimate range test THEY BURNED.... And here you are broadcasting to us that you successfully passed the tests ... FOR WHAT????

    Quote: Kostadinov
    They have 6 successful nuclear tests with the latter from 260 to 540 kilotons, depending on the magnitude recorded according to Richter 6,1 (South Korea and Norway) or 6,3 (USA and China).

    KOSTADINOV !!! WHAT ARE YOU DONE? ????????????????????? Even the most conservative estimates speak of the test 150 ct warheadand you already have it 540 ct ???? Damn, why not 200 megatons ????. And for a long time you will trump the magnitude of explosions ???

    Quote: Kostadinov
    After all, Russia has no confirmation. What is needed to obtain such a confirmation? Firing ICBMs at full range and with a real warhead in the Pacific? Is this whistling to see for confirmation?

    YES IT IS. It is the test for the ultimate range that is the confirmation of theoretical calculations. Even if the rocket reached an altitude of 3500 km, with a steep trajectory, which is equivalent to 7000 km with a normal trajectory - THIS STILL DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING. Until and there will be a test for LIMIT RANGE. And therefore, Russia precisely says that SHE DOES NOT LOCATE data to strike at the USA. Urakalki can say anything. No limit test - THERE IS NO GUARANTEE. So our country DOES NOT HAVE SUCH DATA

    Quote: Kostadinov
    North Korea beat surrounded by Russia (USSR) and China in 1950, but still the United States attacked them. The US announced that the DPRK is part of the "axis of evil" along with Iraq and Iran. Then the USA attacked Iraq and no one in Russia and China raised a finger.

    Damn, LEARN HISTORY, KONSTADINOV !!!
    Not the USA attacked the DPRK, but the DPRK attacked South Korea, you are our historian. The term "axis of evil" is generally from another time. And what, you had to move your fingers to protect the aggressor country? It wasn’t just that Iraq was attacked, but Iraq was attacked and occupied by neighboring Kuwait. And only after him was a coalition created to punish the aggressor. Are you aware that, for example, these forces included one or two armored divisions of Syria that fought against the aggressor.? And did China and I have to defend it? What a fright ????

    Quote: Kostadinov
    Now the United States is threatening Iran, despite the agreement that Iran is fulfilling and there is no visible reaction of Russia and China.

    And what kind of reaction do you want to see? At least in this agreement, one of the parties is Iran, the other six are the USA, England, France, Russia, China and the Federal Republic of Germany. Of the six, FIVE claim that Iran is fulfilling its obligations. What the US president is talking about there is his problems so far, but so far he has not crossed those “lines”. And the talking room is the talking room

    Quote: Kostadinov
    The US is bombing Syria and Russia and China are silent and pretend that they do not notice.

    And Russia is bombing Syria, what's next? For better or worse, the United States, one way or another, as part of a coalition, is fighting ISIS in Syria.

    Quote: Kostadinov
    Russia and China voted for the no-fly zone in Libya and did nothing when they bombed this country.

    Do you know the reasons for such a vote?

    Quote: Kostadinov
    What reasons do the DPRK think that after their disarmament the US will not attack them because Russia and China will not allow this? Do they rather, on the contrary, have more reason to think that Russia and China are helping the United States disarm them first and then attack?

    And someone is talking about the disarmament of the DPRK? Or maybe all the same to freeze the DPRK nuclear missile program?
  12. axiles100682
    axiles100682 2 November 2017 20: 10 New
    0
    So our striped people said that we know about the Korean nuclear program and where Korean missiles can fly
  13. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 3 November 2017 00: 38 New
    0
    Moscow has no confirmation that North Korea has nuclear-powered missiles capable of reaching continental America, a source in the Russian delegation to the UN General Assembly reports to RIA Novosti.

    Americans need to believe our statements and stop worrying about the collapse of some warheads on their heads, why should we lie, Americans can sleep peacefully and withdraw their WB from the Asia-Pacific countries ....
  14. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 3 November 2017 12: 00 New
    0
    KOSTADINOV !!!! Stop raving !!!!!! The rocket was ONLY ONCE ONCE thrown into orbit a cargo weighing one hundred kilograms. Once, not TWO, as you say. And this does not mean at all that it is capable of casting 1 ton per 12000 km. Stop raving ...
    High-fuel fuel DOES NOT MEAN that it is LONG-STORED. Long-term storage is an ampouled storage option. What nafig long-stored when the rocket is fueled before launch

    1. The Unha-3 rocket and its modification successfully threw two satellites into orbit - in December 2012 and again in 2016.
    2. The second satellite weighed 200 kg. in a sun-synchronous orbit 600 km according to South Korean intelligence. The fact that this very rocket is capable of throwing 1000 kg per 12000 km is estimated by American experts.
    3. How long can an eta rocket stay in a filled state? For R-16 with oxidizer AK write that the warranty period of being in a refilled state is 30 days. This is not so bad. Could it be a bit or more if the oxidizing agent is not AK?
    what, what did the Koreans experience in flight? What is the point of testing ICBM warheads when firing at medium range ???? Damn, connoisseur ... You know, on the basis of the same "troubles", the combat units tested at medium range were then put on ICBMs. and at the first ee test to the maximum range THEY BURNED .... And here you are broadcasting to us that you successfully passed the tests ... WHAT ????

    On inter-missile missiles, they were fired along a hinged path so that the maximum thermal load hit close to the maximum for ICBMs along a "normal" path, albeit for a shorter time.
    In addition, they were tested on real ICBMs (Hwason-14) with the same path along the hinged path when the maximum heat load exceeded the maximum for ICBMs along the “normal” path. This, too, American experts have already appreciated well. The fact that the war block may have burned out during the second test of Hwason-14 is not shared by most Western and, in particular, American experts.
    KOSTADINOV !!! WHAT ARE YOU DONE? ?????????????????????? Even the most conservative estimates suggest a 150-ct warhead test, and you already have 540 ct ???? Damn, why not 200 megatons ????. And for a long time you will trump the magnitude of explosions ???

    Vyi did not see that the international organization on the ban on nuclear testing and the Norwegian Norsar changed their estimates from 5,9 to 6,1 for the magnitude of the last opit. Therefore, the minimum estimate hung up to 250 kilotons (see also the comment on this topic at 38north.org). The maximum estimate of 540 kilotons corresponds to 6,3 magnitudes of which the United States and China have registered. And if it was not taken any measures to reduce the impact of the explosion (decoupling).
    So I am only quoting the experts ’ratings and this includes your comments that they are raving, crazy, and so on.
    More information and expert names can be found at 38north, armscontrol wonk, thediplomat, nk news and so on.
  15. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 3 November 2017 13: 08 New
    +1
    YES IT IS. It is the test for the ultimate range that is the confirmation of theoretical calculations. Even if the rocket reached an altitude of 3500 km, with a steep trajectory, which is equivalent to 7000 km with a normal trajectory - THIS IS NOT ANYTHING ELSE.

    The Hwason-14 missile reached 3700 km on a hinged path, which, according to experts, is more than 10000 km on the optimal, and not 7000 km. Because the earth is not flat but round (for UTB Gordano Bruno burned out) and UTB exerts its effect on long ranges. Of course, Hwason-14 was not drunk at maximum range, but Unha, as it was already discussed, flew to a range of more than 10 or 12 km. She threw satellites into orbit twice, while in a circular orbit of 000 km with a very large slope, which is much larger than a low orbit.
    Damn, LEARN HISTORY, KONSTADINOV !!!
    Not the USA attacked the DPRK, but the DPRK attacked South Korea, you are our historian. The term "axis of evil" is generally from another time. And what, you had to move your fingers to protect the aggressor country? It wasn’t just that Iraq was attacked, but Iraq was attacked and occupied by neighboring Kuwait. And only after him was a coalition created to punish the aggressor. Are you aware that, for example, these forces included one or two armored divisions of Syria that fought against the aggressor.? And did China and I have to defend it? What a fright ????

    Koreans cannot be a bit aggressive in their own country in Korea. Then in 1950, two states did not beat in Korea, but one country divided into two occupation zones with two Korean governments. Therefore, there was a civil war in which the United States, another state 10 kilometers away, intervened. Therefore, the US is the aggressor because it intervened in the internal conflict in another state. Another thing is who and how began the civil war in Korea, which has been going on since the summer of 1949.
    When Iraq was included in the axis of evil, it had not occupied any Kuwait for a long time, had already fulfilled all UN resolutions for a long time, no WMD had been beaten by Iraq, and even the BR had not remained. So don’t throw sand in our eyes. Then, in 2003, Iraq was attacked and occupied and no one lifted a finger. Nobody wanted to protect Iraq from Russia and China. It was necessary to beat only all sanctions were lifted and to sell weapons - not gifts, but sold. Only UTB.
    And Russia is bombing Syria, what's next? For better or worse, the United States, one way or another, as part of a coalition, is fighting ISIS in Syria.

    All the same, Russia intervened at the invitation of the Syrian government and did not bomb the Syrian government government like the United States (no one invited them to Syria). If Syria hit nuclear weapons, they could do without Russian help. So far, only the US has been “fighting” with ISIS, it has grown and strengthened.
    And someone is talking about the disarmament of the DPRK? Or maybe all the same to freeze the DPRK nuclear missile program?

    Of course, the DPRK should "only" freeze the development of its deterrence weapon. At that time, the United States can develop its own missile defense system and is preparing a preemptive strike. Sanctions will not be lifted. This will be followed by new claims and threats against both Iraq and Iran, and so on, until the “humiliation of the regime” and the occupation of the DPRK and a new humanitarian catastrophe. Everyone has already watched. I hope this does not work out once. Because after North Korea and Iran, the following are China and Russia.
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 3 November 2017 21: 29 New
      0
      Kostadinov When Iraq was included in the axis of evil, it has long been no longer occupying any Kuwait

      Why cheat gullible members of the forum?

      All the media have already switched from reporting on the progress of the military operation (where with some details, where without them at all) to the stories about the liberation of Kuwait

      http://yavix.ru/%D0%BA%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%20
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      Kuwaitis cannot forget how Iraqis tried to make them: they forced them to change documents, car numbers, renamed departments.

      Kuwait was looted, Iraqis exported everything they could from the country: valuables, cars, clothes, food, equipment.

      Huge damage was done to the country's economy. During the retreat, the Iraqis set fire to oil wells - the sky over Kuwait turned black, it was impossible to breathe. This has become one of the largest environmental disasters.

      But the most important thing is the atmosphere of fear that prevailed in the country. Thousands ended up in prisons; those who did not manage to be transported to Iraq were considered lucky.
      More on TASS:
      http://tass.ru/spec/desert-storm