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In Russia, published a petition against the installation of a monument to Karimov in Moscow

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On the site of publications of petitions (Change.org) A message appeared from user George Gorodetsky, who calls to oppose the installation in Moscow of a monument to the first president of Uzbekistan Islam Karimov. It should be noted that the initiative to create a monument was previously voiced by the mayor of the Russian capital, Sergei Sobyanin. By order of Sobyanin, a monument to Karimov will appear by 2019 in the Yakimanka area.


In Russia, published a petition against the installation of a monument to Karimov in Moscow


The author of the petition notes that he opposes the installation of the monument, since "Islam Karimov is a symbol of Central Asian Russophobia." According to George Gorodetsky, under Karimov there were acts of aggression against the Russian population of Uzbekistan, the Russians were deprived of jobs, housing, other property.

From the petition:
Under Karimov, the Russian language began to gradually disappear from circulation, the number of Russian-speaking schools was repeatedly reduced, the alphabet was changed from Cyrillic to Latin. On behalf of Islam Karimov, programs for de-Russification and de-Sovietization of the republic were carried out in Uzbekistan, almost all memorials devoted to the Great Patriotic War were destroyed, settlements and streets were renamed.

Under Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan ceased to be an ally of Russia - by his order the republic withdrew from the CSTO and EurAsEC. In 2002, Karimov signed an agreement with the United States to deploy a military base in Khanabad. In 2010, Karimov refused to pay Russia's national debt in 700 million dollars.


At the moment, a petition calling for the cancellation of the decision to install the monument to Karimov was signed by about 4,65 thousand people.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 2 November 2017 07: 02 New
    +4
    On the territory of the embassy! Both in Moscow and in Uzbekistan!
    1. dik-nsk
      dik-nsk 2 November 2017 07: 09 New
      65
      also didn’t understand such an initiative, let’s still kill Kuchma, Shevarnadze, Nazarbayev ... let them put it in his head, is he the national hero of the Russian Federation?
      1. Logall
        Logall 2 November 2017 07: 15 New
        51
        Quote: dik-nsk
        also didn’t understand such an initiative, let’s still kill Kuchma, Shevarnadze, Nazarbayev ... let them put it in his head, is he the national hero of the Russian Federation?

        In general, I can’t understand the initiatives of Sobyanin! If you want a monument, put it in your country house!
        1. 210ox
          210ox 2 November 2017 07: 24 New
          51
          But I understand the initiative .. Moscow has ceased to be a RUSSIAN city! This is the Diaspora Wishlist and its money ..
          Quote: Logall
          Quote: dik-nsk
          also didn’t understand such an initiative, let’s still kill Kuchma, Shevarnadze, Nazarbayev ... let them put it in his head, is he the national hero of the Russian Federation?

          In general, I can’t understand the initiatives of Sobyanin! If you want a monument, put it in your country house!
          1. Logall
            Logall 2 November 2017 07: 29 New
            34
            Dmitry, hi Ukrainians with money in Moscow, too, in bulk! So now, soon we will install a monument to Bandera ...?
            Here is an example of the integrity of the current political Elites!
            1. 210ox
              210ox 2 November 2017 07: 33 New
              22
              Alexander, good morning! I may have sharply said about Moscow, but everything can be. I'm not talking about Bandera and their monuments. It’s clear that people will rebel if it comes to that .. But you can’t flirt with the diasporas. . Live once, live by our rules and honor our Heroes. Honor yours in your own country.
              Quote: Logall
              Dmitry, hi Ukrainians with money in Moscow, too, in bulk! So now, soon we will install a monument to Bandera ...?
              Here is an example of the integrity of the current political Elites!
              1. The black
                The black 2 November 2017 08: 43 New
                30
                Let them put on the territory of their embassy - not a question. I don’t understand another thing - why are people forced to sign petitions? Is it possible that without them the authorities cannot simply politely refuse to erect a monument? .... Whatever Karimov is, good or bad, but he is a person who has NO relation to Russia. In the homeland let them put it at least on every corner, in Russia - NO.
                1. tomket
                  tomket 2 November 2017 12: 07 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Black
                  which has NO relation to Russia

                  It is imperative to erect a monument to Pierre Nuranziza, Joseph Kabila and Felepe Karma. Without them, Moscow does not have the right to be called the capital of Russia))))
              2. Scoun
                Scoun 2 November 2017 08: 49 New
                +3
                Quote: 210ox
                But you can’t flirt with the diasporas either, but you can and should put it in its place.


                I completely agree, but in the case of the Uzbeks who settled in Moscow, the IMHA they were the first to "discard" him.
                1. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 2 November 2017 11: 50 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Scoun
                  in the case of the Uzbeks who settled in Moscow, then IMHA they were the first to "discard" him.

                  I do not quite agree with you. All these Uzbeks, Tajiks, Ukrainians and other “migrants” always remain who they really are, namely, foreigners with their national roots. Russia and Russians, they are not something to love, but even to respect, they will never learn. Despite the fact that they were sheltered in Russia, they were given the opportunity to live to earn money. For the most part, they are all just ungrateful sv ...... and. Recently, he talked with one “zarobitchanin” who had worked for two years in Moscow, and even before that, since the 91st there are many in Russia. So he, despite the fact that he was purebred Russian by origin, but according to the strange logic adopted in Ukraine (if you live or was born in Ukraine, it means Ukrainian), he wholeheartedly hates her whole conscious life, living at the expense of Russia. Moreover, he considers it an occupier, as is customary among Ukrainians. What can I say, about the Asians, who generally never assimilate.
          2. igor1981
            igor1981 2 November 2017 08: 25 New
            18
            Quote: 210ox
            But I understand the initiative .. Moscow has ceased to be a RUSSIAN city! This is the Diaspora Wishlist and its money ..


            You rightly noticed. Moscow no longer belongs to the Russians. It’s time to rename it to Moskabbad. What is the largest mosque on Prospekt Mira. Personally, I will subscribe to this petition. What I advise the rest.
            1. johnik
              johnik 2 November 2017 08: 30 New
              +4
              Show me where to sign!
              1. dik-nsk
                dik-nsk 2 November 2017 08: 46 New
                +3
                link at the beginning of the article .. signed
                1. Fkjydjckfrgh
                  Fkjydjckfrgh 2 November 2017 11: 06 New
                  +4
                  Well, I signed this petition. Where to sign the petition so that the special services find out the "interest" of Sobakin himself?
                2. weksha50
                  weksha50 2 November 2017 21: 09 New
                  0
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  link at the beginning of the article .. signed


                  I tried something twice - it didn’t work ... For some reason, nothing came to mine to activate my account ... request
                  1. weksha50
                    weksha50 2 November 2017 21: 14 New
                    +2
                    Quote: weksha50
                    I tried something twice - it didn’t work ...


                    Well ... it turned out, finally ... made its contribution to the fight against the stupid acts of playful political activists ...
            2. Starover_Z
              Starover_Z 2 November 2017 09: 25 New
              +7
              Quote: igor1981
              Moscow no longer belongs to the Russians. It’s time to rename it to Moskabbad.

            3. ID90
              ID90 2 November 2017 10: 15 New
              +3
              Quote: igor1981
              You rightly noticed. Moscow no longer belongs to the Russians. It’s time to rename it to Moskabbad. What is the largest mosque on Prospekt Mira.

              Thanks to the sun-shining, multi-walker.
              soaked in the toilet.
          3. BAI
            BAI 2 November 2017 08: 34 New
            +7
            Moscow has ceased to be a RUSSIAN city!

            I agree. Soon, as in Europe, there will be only Muslims, moreover from Central Asia.
        2. Comrade Schucher
          Comrade Schucher 2 November 2017 07: 47 New
          16
          Quote: Logall
          In general, I can’t understand the initiatives of Sobyanin!

          And this bootleg is something very reminiscent of the venture that they hanged with Manerheim's plank in St. Petersburg. They stuck it with music, a parade and a speech ... but they pecked it at night ... in tikhari.
          But this idea of ​​vaashcheta must be realized, but with a different meaning - to build the alley "Haters and Pests of Russia", let them put monuments, busts, and other rubbish there, but just to explain that these "great people" didn’t Of Russia.
        3. dedBoroded
          dedBoroded 2 November 2017 08: 13 New
          +3
          You can with a broom or shovel in your hands at the station
        4. kubanec
          kubanec 2 November 2017 08: 40 New
          +1
          Sobyanin is also not quite Russian
        5. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 2 November 2017 14: 17 New
          0
          Quote: Logall
          In general, I can’t understand the initiatives of Sobyanin!


          Mb a peculiar element of soft power-influence?
        6. Primoos
          Primoos 3 November 2017 17: 04 New
          +2
          Who needs a monument to Karimov in Moscow? And in any other city of Russia? What kind of absurdity? Why such a fright? For what? Liberals completely lost the edge? In Russia, are worthy people transferred?
      2. KVashentcev
        KVashentcev 2 November 2017 11: 50 New
        0
        Or maybe Yakimanka is named after him ??? I support! By the way, with this piece of art you can design the FMS building, for example.
    2. AUL
      AUL 2 November 2017 08: 48 New
      +6
      It is not clear, but what did Karimov do for the Russian Federation that he earned a monument in Moscow? Squeezed out Russians from Uzbekistan?
    3. Vend
      Vend 2 November 2017 09: 13 New
      10
      Why should a monument to the president of Uzbekistan stand in Russia? They need to make at least the whole of Uzbekistan monuments. We have enough great people who need to erect a monument.
      1. Fkjydjckfrgh
        Fkjydjckfrgh 2 November 2017 11: 12 New
        0
        Nothing, soon and "mine" will be instructed. Vlasov, for example, as a fighter against the totalitarianism of vaashche and the "anti-man" -Dzhugashvili in particular
        1. Vend
          Vend 2 November 2017 12: 29 New
          0
          Quote: Fkjydjckfrgh
          Nothing, soon and "mine" will be instructed. Vlasov, for example, as a fighter against the totalitarianism of vaashche and the "anti-man" -Dzhugashvili in particular

          Each has its own worthy people in the history of Russia.
  2. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 2 November 2017 07: 03 New
    38
    Personally, I am also against, as I recall how our compatriots fled from these republics in the nineties.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 2 November 2017 10: 52 New
      +4
      And how did Russia meet compatriots with the Law on Russian Citizenship, which equated Russians from the CIS with foreigners with five years of “working off” experience!
      1. faridg7
        faridg7 2 November 2017 13: 49 New
        +1
        So I chegoito did not notice that I was accrued five years of experience (like my relatives) Parents a little, but they threw help on the purchase of housing. Maybe we have different Russia?
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 2 November 2017 07: 03 New
    26
    Under Karimov, the Russian language began to gradually disappear from circulation, the number of Russian-language schools decreased many times, the alphabet was changed from Cyrillic to Latin.


    I support this petition ... again, someone plays a friendship of peoples ... without seeing (or does not want to see) how they destroy Russian culture in neighboring states.
    Moscow leaders often go out of their coils ... raging with fat.
  4. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 2 November 2017 07: 05 New
    18
    Well, how much can you all kiss them in ...
  5. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 2 November 2017 07: 09 New
    +9
    That would have made the Alley of presidents of the former USSR, Schaub were with Tseritelevsky scale fellow ! I wish everyone would tremble before the statue of Lukashenko - everyones, wassat
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 2 November 2017 07: 16 New
    +6
    What was happening there in Central Asia when yesterday's secretaries of the Communist Party of the Communist Party of the Kings became seemingly forgotten. And this petitsoid is also not particularly worth listening to. A moratorium is necessary on such monuments. 100 years.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 2 November 2017 10: 30 New
      +1
      But in modern Russia, are leaders of national autonomies not “kings”? And snickering governors like Khoroshavin are criminals in general!
  7. midivan
    midivan 2 November 2017 07: 17 New
    +7
    Well, Che, there’s nothing more to do, you have to tackle the monuments, where you can’t go into the staircase, it’s worth it as if a corpse was lying under the elevator, apparently the mayor’s chair began to rub the fifth point on retirement.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 November 2017 07: 17 New
    14
    But Sobyanin nothing more to do, putting forward the initiative to erect a monument? And for what merits to Russia it is necessary to perpetuate the president of (former) Uzbekistan? If there is such a desire, then put a bust in the Yeltsin Center.
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic 2 November 2017 07: 18 New
    +3
    It is necessary to present this monument to Karimov along with half a million of his fellow guest workers! !! am
  10. Observer2014
    Observer2014 2 November 2017 07: 28 New
    22
    In Russia, published a petition against the installation of a monument to Karimov in Moscow
    And who is going to put a monument to this figure with us? Something vague doubts creep in. Uzbeks carry out terrorist attacks (what the natives of Central Asia began to call them). Uzbeks like that useless locust flooded our cities dumping with their stupid and lower quality work. In America people are crushed. What is causing them They were about to cancel the green card. And then someone put a monument in the head of Lupanul. To this frame. Why? What kind of strategy is being drawn is interesting. Our enemy is not the one who opposes the installation of the monument. And our enemy is the one who came up with the idea to put it. And the next stone in the “Putin’s garden.” After all, everyone understands his loyal attitude towards the Uzbeks. That even sent the patriarch there recently. .With a TV show of cute Russian grannies and how cool they are to live there. lol It’s true when you speak with Russian with Uzbek passports from there .. The picture is completely different.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 2 November 2017 10: 41 New
      +3
      And who doesn’t allow you to accept and comply with immigration laws that you like, to regulate and control the flow of workers from the CIS? In the end, work yourself to clean the yards and streets, to lay bricks and tiles, that there is no competition from the native population! Uzbek builders are very good, find any panorama of our construction projects and see for yourself, we don’t invite anyone from our neighbors.
  11. Eurodav
    Eurodav 2 November 2017 07: 37 New
    +8
    Damn, miserable ... What are they, nothing to do? What are the monuments? To whom? We still have no historical, worthy, folk characters, but here ... Sobyanin infuriates me more and more! It is necessary to spread the petition to remove it! Will be removed / not removed, but the resonance will go, the enemy will quiet down!
  12. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 2 November 2017 07: 41 New
    +8
    Mr. Sobyanin, can you erect a monument to Goebels in Moscow? Also like an "outstanding" figure.
  13. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 2 November 2017 07: 42 New
    +6
    The mayor of Moscow has a crisis of the genre, well, then let them put all the characters of that period so that there is someone to spit on: Yeltsin, Karimov, Kuchma, well, etc. Something is being done with the heads of the Moscow leaders, probably people who have done as much as possible for the HOMELAND are no longer worthy of monuments, but the Russophobes of the former "brotherly" republics who ordered to scoff at the Russians should be immortalized, maybe in order not to forget "brotherly" love, then and Poroshenko for one monument in Moscow to ward off.
  14. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 2 November 2017 07: 46 New
    +9
    Oo-oo-oo-uuu ... started churning ... but I will not say that, you know wink
    Monuments to the poet and translator Samuel Marshak and the first president of Uzbekistan Islam Karimov will be erected in Moscow before the end of 2019. The relevant orders were signed by Sergei Sobyanin

    ... another order of the mayor concerns the installation in the capital of the monument to the first president of Uzbekistan Islam Karimov. The place of its installation was chosen as a square next to the embassy and guest house of Uzbekistan, on Bolshaya Polyanka street

    No need for a monument !!! And transfer the embassy to Kapotnya, together with the guest house fellow
    Also in terms of the installation of monuments to Mikhail Bulkakov and William Shakespeare. I hope there are no objections to these candidates?
    Quote: 210ox
    But I understand the initiative .. Moscow has ceased to be a RUSSIAN city!

    Yeah, for sure ... stopped ... Just to yell, damn it negative
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 November 2017 07: 46 New
    +4
    I did not understand this initiative. An inveterate Russophobe monument in Moscow? Come on ...
    Where is the petition to sign?
    1. walking along the trail
      walking along the trail 2 November 2017 07: 56 New
      +1
      by the link at the beginning of the article
  16. andrewkor
    andrewkor 2 November 2017 07: 49 New
    +8
    Well, I don’t know, guys, at the expense of Russophobia, ask me. Since 1981 I have been living in Tashkent, I worked for TAPOiCh. Until today I haven’t heard a single bad word in my personal address. Yes, many people left for Russia and they called me if I I felt at least some kind of threat, I probably would have pulled it too. When the “parade of sovereignties” began, the most Russophobic law regarding Russians from the once fraternal republics was adopted precisely in Russia, in which Russians were equated with foreigners and to obtain citizenship it was necessary to exist 5 years without rights on its territory. There were exceptions and weaknesses and changes to this law, but initially it was very unfair, to put it mildly. The Russian migrants who settled in Russia were tightly stuck with the nickname "Uzbek" or another similar one. Islam Abduganievich Karimov resisted the outflow of Russians from Uzbekistan by all means agitation was harshly suppressed at the level of the SNB and the muftis. I will not say anything at the expense of the monument, this is a purely sovereign matter, it's up to you.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 2 November 2017 09: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: andrewkor
      I have been living in Tashkent since 1981, I worked for TAPOiCh. Until today I haven’t heard a single bad word addressed to me personally.

      One can only be glad for you, but Tashkent is not all of Uzbekistan, the security forces have committed arbitrary actions against the Uzbeks, not to mention the rest, and Andijan, for example, is hushed up by everyone.
      Imha.
      The worst Slavs were in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan.
      1. andrewkor
        andrewkor 2 November 2017 10: 16 New
        +3
        No matter where the Andijan events are hushed up, just like the Novocherkassk ones, put the question into the search engines and analyze yourself within your own mind. By the way, after these events, many participants in those events received the status of political refugees in the West not the most white and fluffy now and comes across the same tolerant West. A complete analogy with Chechen insurgents.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 2 November 2017 13: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: andrewkor
          No where Andijan events are hushed up

          Only it is hushed up how many peaceful people, women, children and the elderly died.
          This is written in open sources ...

          Old men, women and children hurried to the advanced armed detachments, hoping to escape from the city. However, the next ambush awaited them further. It is still unknown how many lives the Andijan massacre of 2005 took. Near the fifteenth school, the rebels gathered in a tight group, and the military opened chaotic fire on them. According to eyewitnesses, the whole street was in the corpses of people. - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/274007/andijanskie-sobyitiya
          -god-v-uzbekistane

          And the locals call (who live there now) specific numbers and there was a massive mass and this is not about rebels.

          By the way, the torture chambers where the rebels of the prisoners rushed for some reason to save ... yes, numerous relatives rushed to save, whom the security forces tortured and killed there on their own whims, purely squeezing business.
          1. Razvedka_Boem
            Razvedka_Boem 3 November 2017 06: 27 New
            +1
            The worst Slavs were in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan.

            Just the same, we did not have rabid Russophobia. But in Kyrgyzstan - yes.
            Andijan, for example, is hushed up by everyone.

            There are a lot of information about those events; I myself was an eyewitness of those hard days. All these events were inspired from the outside, so I had to act according to the toughest scenario. There was no other way out; procrastination could have had the most detrimental effect. It was the decisiveness of actions that helped to prevent the country from rolling into chaos.
            but Tashkent is not all Uzbekistan yet

            Now we are undergoing serious changes in everything and you would be pleasantly surprised if you visited us.
  17. walking along the trail
    walking along the trail 2 November 2017 07: 55 New
    +4
    Signed a petition.
  18. Said
    Said 2 November 2017 07: 57 New
    +8
    Karimov and Nazarbayev fought to the last to preserve the Union. Do not forget who actually betrayed the country and the peoples of the Republics.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 2 November 2017 08: 16 New
      +7
      Quote: Said
      Karimov and Nazarbayev fought to the last to preserve the Union. Do not forget who actually betrayed the country and the peoples of the Republics.

      Head on the floor? Where are the witnesses of their battle for the preservation of the union? Karimov’s regime was one of the most Russophobic among Asian ethnocracies.
      If Karimov is so fond of Sobyanin, even if he puts himself in his office, it is possible in another room for personal use.
      However, there is another proposal to Sobyanin, to erect not one monument, but a whole series. Start with Kachinsky, then deliver to Karimov, reserve vacant places.
      1. Said
        Said 2 November 2017 10: 15 New
        +6
        You, as friends of dodging, almost dislike what, what are your last names, addresses? Do not be funny. By the way, the andreykor is still right Russian schools throughout Uzbekistan, moreover, my Nazi friend, these schools are 20-30% full. And now a cherry on the cake, I personally invite you to Uzbekistan, and together with you, perhaps even as a translator (I doubt it will be useful), I agree to look for signs of Russophobia. Well, are you ready not to wag your tongue, but how can a man do something?
        1. The gentleman
          The gentleman 2 November 2017 12: 38 New
          +3
          they don’t come. it’s easier to read articles of this kind on the Internet. and they don’t care what you tell them. I’ve often invited, don’t come
        2. Humpty
          Humpty 2 November 2017 13: 02 New
          0
          Quote: Said
          I personally invite you to Uzbekistan, and together with you, perhaps even as a translator (I doubt it will be useful), I agree to look for signs of Russophobia.

          Thank you for the invitation, I myself have already tried to see the monuments of architecture, at the border I lost my desire. I really do not need a translator from Uzbek after a day or another in the environment. I do not spread my opinion about all the Uzbeks in judging people in uniform and the late Karimov. There is hope that now Uzbekistan will develop in a more positive way.
          Quote: Said
          I agree to look for traces of Russophobia

          “We are a quiet, peaceful people,” comrade Comrade used to say. Nishanov.
          http://forum.bakililar.az/index.php?/topic/75964-
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          1. UZBEK TASHKENT
            UZBEK TASHKENT 2 November 2017 20: 31 New
            +4
            And now the main thing that no one talks about .... Who owns this site? The State Department? What is this article about? Remember the 2013 beginning of the end of the outskirts? IN bold minus for inciting ethnicity!
      2. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 3 November 2017 06: 33 New
        +1
        Head on the floor? Where are the witnesses to their battle for the preservation of the union?

        The agreement in Belovezhskaya Pushcha was signed by Russia, Ukraine, Belarus.
        We even introduced our own currency in only 1994, since Islam Abduganievich did not believe until the last - how can all communications be broken ..
        Karimov’s regime was one of the most Russophobic among Asian ethnocracies.

        We have frenzied Russophobia, unlike other countries. The percentage of Russians and the Russian-speaking population in general is still considerable.
    2. thinker
      thinker 2 November 2017 08: 27 New
      +6
      I will add. Interestingly, the author of the petition lived, worked in Uzbekistan, all his knowledge from the Internet? It’s better to see once ... Guess in the photo where Russia is and where Uzbekistan is.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 2 November 2017 10: 31 New
        +2
        thinker
        Guess in the photo where Russia is and where Uzbekistan is.
        Add.

        1. andrewkor
          andrewkor 2 November 2017 11: 27 New
          +4
          You are right in Uzbekistan they are building a lot, but there aren’t enough jobs for everyone, 30000000 people with a tail, that’s why they go abroad to earn money and not only to Russia.
      2. Humpty
        Humpty 2 November 2017 13: 54 New
        0
        Quote: thinker
        Better to see once ...

        And that is true. Classes for girls with an open head and for girls with a closed head. Progress!
        1. Razvedka_Boem
          Razvedka_Boem 3 November 2017 06: 34 New
          +1
          it’s true. Classes for girls with an open head and for girls with a closed head. Progress!

          The girls in headscarves in the classroom are Russia.
  19. Sergey53
    Sergey53 2 November 2017 08: 02 New
    +3
    You can understand when a monument is put to a person who has benefited his people or country. And what did Karimov bring, Mannerheim to whom they tried to hang a commemorative plaque? What is the essence of these figures for the country?
  20. Bat
    Bat 2 November 2017 08: 02 New
    +3
    It was under Karimov that the Russians began to be expelled from leading posts and began to demand less payment for their work for the Russians.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 2 November 2017 08: 18 New
      +4
      And I, as a specialist, a worker, are paid several times more than the local staff.
  21. Ankipelgygyrgyn
    Ankipelgygyrgyn 2 November 2017 08: 05 New
    +3
    Signed a petition.
  22. demo
    demo 2 November 2017 08: 50 New
    +9
    As soon as a monument to General Chernyaev Mikhail Grigoryevich is erected in Tashkent, a monument to Karimov in Moscow can be erected.
    1. Said
      Said 2 November 2017 10: 20 New
      +5
      By the way Chernyaev did not reach. But here is Skobelev! And now look at the museum of local lore of Mr. Ferghana and the Skobelev house itself, is it not difficult to google?
      1. kubanec
        kubanec 2 November 2017 11: 24 New
        0
        and where is the monument to Skobelev?
    2. andrewkor
      andrewkor 2 November 2017 11: 11 New
      +2
      Let's put the monuments in Batu symmetrically in Moscow, and Chernyaev in Tashkent?
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 2 November 2017 14: 02 New
        0
        Quote: andrewkor
        Let's put the monuments in Batu symmetrically in Moscow, and Chernyaev in Tashkent?

        It seems to you, Andrey, that the logic of symmetry in this case is concave. Batu planted slavery, Chernyaev fought against the planting of slavery.
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 2 November 2017 18: 27 New
          +4
          Quote: Humpty
          Quote: andrewkor
          Let's put the monuments in Batu symmetrically in Moscow, and Chernyaev in Tashkent?

          It seems to you, Andrey, that the logic of symmetry in this case is concave. Batu planted slavery, Chernyaev fought against the planting of slavery.

          Correct logic, both conquered territory for their empires. On the topic of course, monuments to their presidents should be installed in their countries, if they are worthy of it.
  23. kubanec
    kubanec 2 November 2017 08: 50 New
    +5
    we must write a petition for the installation of monuments to Ivan the Terrible and Comrade Stalin, moreover, on the Red Square, which did a lot for the country, and all sorts of Karimovs, Nazarbayevs, Kuchm, etc. ..... to the board of shame, like Russophobes.
    1. LAWNER
      LAWNER 3 November 2017 00: 42 New
      0
      Alley of rulers already exists, and in the center of Moscow. There is Ivan 4 Vasilyevich "The Terrible" there. And Joseph Vissarionovich "Stalin" !!!
  24. Chaos
    Chaos 2 November 2017 08: 50 New
    +4
    Sobyanin does not solve such issues, he doesn’t even make a noise. An indication of the monument from above comes from the Kremlin.
  25. The gentleman
    The gentleman 2 November 2017 09: 16 New
    +3
    with all due respect to this kind of “petition,” but to be opposed for far-fetched reasons is an insult to the inhabitants of Uzbekistan (UZBEKISTANIS). I note that the head of state of the Russian Federation highly valued Karimov I.A. (maybe some personal ones). to bet, not to bet is, of course, the right of the inhabitants of Moscow. but such a stupid reason ... in general, do not bet, but do not blame
    1. Chaos
      Chaos 2 November 2017 10: 40 New
      +2
      Of course we will not. In general, no need to erect monuments. Only in cemeteries.
      1. The gentleman
        The gentleman 2 November 2017 10: 44 New
        +1
        don’t put, but make hysteria about the Russian population out of it ... in general, another provocation article. boring and no more.
        1. andrewkor
          andrewkor 2 November 2017 11: 15 New
          +4
          Countryman, this is not an article, but simply information about a certain event that excited everyone. You have not read the Russian in Uzbekistan: nowhere worse. This is where the article is so an article!
          1. The gentleman
            The gentleman 2 November 2017 16: 19 New
            +2
            I read. I tried to convince. It did not work ...
            1. UZBEK TASHKENT
              UZBEK TASHKENT 2 November 2017 20: 34 New
              +2
              Useless! On all TV, Ukrainian nationalism is condemned, but the problem is that the Ukrainians took the palm of the Nazi championship from the Russians.
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 2 November 2017 13: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Gentleman
      I note that the head of state of the Russian Federation highly valued Karimov I.A.

      Imha.
      Karimov caught on for the first time after the Batken events and he pressed the Wahhabis in the country (although they settled in southern Kyrgyzstan) and took the path of a secular state.
      The second time he came to his senses after the Andijan and he still found the strength to restrain his daughter .. but the whole country is in a barbed wire and has strained relations with all its neighbors.
  26. pepel
    pepel 2 November 2017 09: 23 New
    +1
    They probably promised to build a monument to Sobyanin in Tashkent. negative
    1. The gentleman
      The gentleman 2 November 2017 10: 44 New
      +2
      here the question is who is the initiator? I suppose Sobyanin did not personally know I. A. Karimov
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  28. unignm
    unignm 2 November 2017 09: 31 New
    +1
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    go and sign. what for do we need these ......
  29. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 2 November 2017 09: 32 New
    +1
    Let the Uzbeks erect monuments to their presidents. And that Karimov did good for Russia and the Russians so that he would put a monument to him.
    1. The gentleman
      The gentleman 2 November 2017 10: 47 New
      +3
      not Uzbeks, UZBEKISTANIANS. we already have a monument. for Russians ... well, as it were in the 90s, when a gang of fanatics wanted to establish their regime here, it was Karimov I. I personally ordered the protection, as you say, of the Russians.
      although you weren’t here, it’s hard to convince you. It’s better to believe Internet bikes
      1. Chaos
        Chaos 2 November 2017 11: 28 New
        +1
        If it is itching to put a monument, then not Karimov, but for example
        Rakhimov Sobir Umarovich. Born on January 25, 1902 in Tashkent. Uzbek. In the Soviet Army since 1922 on a ticket to the Komsomol. He graduated from the Baku Joint Military School and the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the USSR. K.E. Voroshilov (1943). For heroism in battles with the Basmachi, he was awarded the Order of the Red Star. Major General, commander of the Guards Rifle Division. He was awarded four orders of the Red Banner and the Order of Suvorov, II degree.
        For the exemplary performance of combat missions and the courage and heroism shown at the same time, by decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of May 6, 1965, Major General Rakhimov Sobir Umarovich was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union
        There are Uzbeks Heroes of the Second World War, put them. The diaspora, or whoever annoys the Kremlin, will calm down.
        1. andrewkor
          andrewkor 2 November 2017 12: 08 New
          +4
          Dear Chaos, you probably don’t know what general Rakhimov’s freakish graters are between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, whose native is he. Still under the Union, I developed this topic a bit, I didn’t get it dead, but you proved that Rakhimov was still Kazakh but the hero is Soviet!
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 2 November 2017 14: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: andrewkor
            General Rakhimov’s inconspicuous graters between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, whose native he is, nevertheless, under the Union, he worked on this topic for me, he didn’t stop it for a while, but he proved that Rakhimov was still Kazakh

            Asia - p. How familiar this is. How many similar examples. But the fact that
            Quote: andrewkor
            He is a Soviet hero!
            They didn’t want to recall. It happens that whole famous military units are trying to seize.
  30. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 November 2017 10: 36 New
    +3
    By order of Sobyanin, a monument to Karimov will appear in 2019 in the Yakimanka area.
    Insanity in the West, insanity in Moscow. And where to go to a normal person? .....
    Uzbeks have already expelled more than 2 million Russian citizens from Uzbekistan! ... They will probably write on the monument: "To the liberator of the Uzbek people from the grateful .... (here are the options Sabyanin, oligarchs, migrant workers, compatriots, victims of the genocide")
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 2 November 2017 11: 22 New
      +2
      They expelled me directly, with bayonets or something? Nobody drove me and didn’t try. Maybe somewhere in the outback something was happening that was obscene, I don’t know, I’m Tashkent myself. I talked to those who were leaving, mainly because of the children for their prospects. My children also left for Russia of their own free will!
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 2 November 2017 15: 28 New
        0
        Quote: andrewkor
        They expelled me directly, with bayonets or something? Nobody drove me and didn’t try. Maybe somewhere in the outback something was happening that was obscene, I don’t know, I’m Tashkent myself. I talked to those who were leaving, mainly because of the children for their prospects. My children also left for Russia of their own free will!

        The truth is yours. They didn’t drive with bayonets; they themselves left, whom they did not kill.
        1. Razvedka_Boem
          Razvedka_Boem 3 November 2017 06: 38 New
          +1
          They didn’t drive with bayonets; they themselves left, who were not killed.

          Do not carry nonsense. If they killed the Russians, then not with us. Better remember the Caucasus.
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 3 November 2017 15: 59 New
            0
            Quote: Razvedka_Boem
            They didn’t drive with bayonets; they themselves left, who were not killed.

            Do not carry nonsense. If they killed the Russians, then not with us. Better remember the Caucasus.

            Shut up, you will marry a smart one. VO, Opinions, today:
            and by the end of the 1980s. they became simply unbearable - they raped girls, beat men and boys, insulted and, for any reason, hinted that they should leave the republic. Of course, the smaller, youngest and most aggressive part of the Uzbeks from the marginal environment took part in these antics, but this did not make the victims of oppression easier.
            The fact that they cut I have no doubt. Everything was written off to the household. Bastards.
            1. Razvedka_Boem
              Razvedka_Boem 3 November 2017 17: 47 New
              +1
              Shut up, you will marry a smart

              Poke is not necessary boy.
              I well remember those times and the fact that you read provocative articles on a website and quote them here does not speak of you in the best way.
              I can only say that you are wrong, however, as I understand it, if you know something in your head, you will not change your mind.
              1. Mavrikiy
                Mavrikiy 3 November 2017 17: 56 New
                0
                Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                Shut up, you will marry a smart

                Poke is not necessary boy.
                I well remember those times and the fact that you read provocative articles on a website and quote them here does not speak of you in the best way.
                I can only say that you are wrong, however, as I understand it, if you know something in your head, you will not change your mind.

                Well, probably because baby, I do not need to change anything. I was in your Tashkent in 1980, there is only shu-shu-shu. I was in Bukhara in 1990, though already a tourist, and I remember very well how the locals shied away from us, as if they had put them in our pants.
                Therefore, agitate your spiders, dear.
                1. Razvedka_Boem
                  Razvedka_Boem 3 November 2017 18: 42 New
                  +1
                  So agitate your spiders

                  The "cattle" of some commentators is surprising ..
                  I was in your Tashkent in 1980, there is only shu-shu-shu. Was in Bukhara 1990

                  Since then, a lot has changed, and for the better. Russia of the 90s and now are also different countries.
                  I think now, if you had come to our side, you would have had a cognitive dissonance ..)
                  Adjoz kid.
    2. UZBEK TASHKENT
      UZBEK TASHKENT 2 November 2017 20: 36 New
      +2
      Well, then only 2, well, not 20?
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  31. Naughty
    Naughty 2 November 2017 11: 14 New
    +2
    It is annoying that we and Adik Hitler will erect a monument
    1. kubanec
      kubanec 2 November 2017 11: 28 New
      +3
      ---------------- So we and Adik Hitler will erect a monument ---------------- Well, yes laughing he made the Soviet people rally good
  32. Elevator in the building
    Elevator in the building 2 November 2017 11: 25 New
    +1
    Signed. IMHO: all these former "members" are worthy of perpetuation only in the "Swamp of Traitors" ..
  33. mavrus
    mavrus 2 November 2017 11: 34 New
    +1
    It’s cool, now some monument to Tsereteli (it’s not clear to anyone) will get into trouble, but why waste time on something, go for a walk like that. And a year later, the Uzbeks themselves “suddenly find out” that Karimov was, to put it mildly, a bad person ... And that “they’ll suddenly find out,” this is not a fortuneteller. And the first Sobyanin will run, with a pickaxe in his hands, to demolish this masterpiece.
  34. ZVS
    ZVS 2 November 2017 11: 36 New
    +2
    What nonsense ?! What is a monument to Karimov?
  35. Alexander War
    Alexander War 2 November 2017 11: 41 New
    +2
    Do not be Sobyanin mayor.
  36. KVashentcev
    KVashentcev 2 November 2017 11: 46 New
    0
    don't get dirty Yakimanka !! Enough of the historical center to spoil the monuments is not known from anyone and is not known to anyone, including animals! All in re-melting! Only after the referendum! In the meantime, there will be no decision by the inhabitants of all these giant trolls into the furnace!
  37. Sergei75
    Sergei75 2 November 2017 12: 21 New
    +1
    And suddenly something?
    And what did he do this, maybe we don’t know what?
    1. Chaos
      Chaos 2 November 2017 19: 29 New
      0
      The GDP decided to erect a monument, because Karimov was an agent of the FSB.
  38. aws4
    aws4 2 November 2017 12: 55 New
    +5
    SORRY FRIENDS BUT READING THIS NEWS ME Slightly Didn’t Cause Vomiting !!!!!!!!! Sometimes it seems that in our leadership it is not only thieves, corrupt officials, pedophiles and thugs, but frankly crazy people
  39. Nemesis
    Nemesis 2 November 2017 16: 27 New
    +2
    And why put a monument to the president of a foreign state in Moscow? For the pogroms of the Russian-speaking population on its territory in the 90s?
    1. UZBEK TASHKENT
      UZBEK TASHKENT 2 November 2017 20: 38 New
      +1
      Can you argue? In which particular year and where exactly? Interesting after all, maybe I live in some other Uzbekistan?
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 2 November 2017 23: 56 New
        +1
        Yes, everywhere. If you take any republic of the former USSR, then in almost every one of them there were pogroms, as you like to say, not the titular population .... The exception can be considered only Armenia and Belarus, where the separation from Russia was more civilized ... ... And I will ask you a counter-question - What good did the President of Uzbekistan do for Russia. So that he would be erected monuments in Moscow ?! Your president, here in Tashkent and erect monuments to him, if you want ... Moscow is not Uzbekistan ... Although, I see no reason to erect monuments to your president in Tashkent ... Uzbekistan inherited from the USSR a huge modern aircraft factory, in Tashkent, and now you graze sheep there, on the flower beds ... the khan’s factory ... Your president broke what he inherited from the USSR and did not create anything in return ... Well, that’s it, thoughts in rumor ... In your country, erect monuments to anyone you want, but not in the Russian Federation ...
      2. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 3 November 2017 06: 41 New
        +1
        Can you argue? In which particular year and where exactly? Interesting after all, maybe I live in some other Uzbekistan?

        It is useless for them to prove something. Although you still need to try. It is especially touching when I notice grammatical and spelling errors in all of these commentators who write nonsense ..) This is despite the fact that Russian is not my native language ..
  40. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 2 November 2017 17: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Gentleman
    to be against ... is already insult to the inhabitants of Uzbekistan

    Well, this is arrogance!
    What do you care about the fact that in Russia not everyone wants a monument to the "great" Uzbek of all time? For you, it is golden - and rejoice. Who is he to us? Frivolous or not far-fetched reasons ... what's your business? To get into a foreign country and give instructions is the limit of arrogance.
    Finally we lost the greyhound!
    1. UZBEK TASHKENT
      UZBEK TASHKENT 2 November 2017 20: 41 New
      +4
      You guys lost the greyhound .... From all screens, Jews are teaching you great people to live and Uzbeks are to blame? Yes, you priest seemed to be a bit off)))
  41. Barshchik-M
    Barshchik-M 2 November 2017 20: 22 New
    +4
    First, Karimov, then Kadyrov ... There will be continuous monuments in Moscow, then they will tear down Pushkin, etc.!
    The Sabbath against the Russians in Russia continues men! Think for yourself .. soldier
  42. UzRus
    UzRus 2 November 2017 20: 47 New
    +2
    Oh my god, what passions !!! And most importantly - why? The monument will be erected anyway, putting great hopes on this petition and its initiator Gorodetsky. Nobody wants to argue?
  43. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 2 November 2017 23: 02 New
    0
    Quote: UzRus
    Oh my god, what passions !!! And most importantly - why? The monument will be erected anyway, putting great hopes on this petition and its initiator Gorodetsky. Nobody wants to argue?

    In St. Petersburg, some of these already put Manerheim "bright memory" ... so what? Where is she, with great pomp, an open board? There is none ... as it never happened.
    And where are the high hopes of high-ranking provocateurs? The Russian people will better erect monuments in honor of great writers or poets from the same Uzbekistan.
  44. LAWNER
    LAWNER 3 November 2017 01: 38 New
    0
    Wonderful article)))
    How clearly written .... GEORGE (the victorious) Gorodetsky has already collected 2 signatures. Karimov usurped power, Karimov did nothing for Moscow, after the expulsion of the Russians, the economy of Uzbekistan collapsed.
    Gorodetsky is a center-right advocating for the introduction of a visa regime with the countries of Central Asia. This is a populist with the slogan "Paid parking." The greatest Politician is fighting for the cancellation of the installation of the monument to the Leader of the Republic of Uzbekistan (5 \ 5sq m), and is ready to cut down hectares of forest in Moscow (probably oxygen excess?) For the sake of skateparks.
    In short ... Gorodetsky-horn is an ordinary yard schemer and PIARast))) All of his signature collections end in failure.
    The funniest ... place of work ... GENERAL Russian Public Organization for Assistance to Special Services and Law Enforcement Agencies. Specialist of the 1st category.
    A man born on September 13.09.1989, 1989 in Kharkov and living in Moscow, is fighting a dead man who already headed the Republic of Uzbekistan in XNUMX. They like to fight with the dead and destroy monuments.
  45. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 3 November 2017 02: 07 New
    +7
    Well then, a monument to Yeltsin in Tashkent, they did a lot for each other.
  46. brr1
    brr1 3 November 2017 23: 50 New
    +1
    Another article on the site for entertainment sofa Russofascists. Hitler kaput villains