The court in Tajikistan did not justify the pilots

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The court in Tajikistan did not justify the pilotsThe court of Tajikistan rejected the complaint of the pilots Vladimir Sadovnichy and Alexey Rudenko. This became known from the lawyer pilots Gulom Boboev.

Recall that the Russian and Estonian pilots Sadovnichy and Rudenko Kurgan-Tyube court of Tajikistan sentenced to 8,5 years in prison. The pilots were charged with illegal border crossing, violation of international transport rules and smuggling. Aircraft AN-72 and aviation the engine was confiscated in favor of the state. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation called this verdict "extremely harsh and politically biased." The so-called “pilots' business” led to a serious complication of relations between Moscow and Dushanbe. A week later, the court revised the sentence: the pilots were given much shorter sentences, and they were released under an amnesty in the courtroom. The court’s decision regarding the confiscation of AN-72 aircraft remained unchanged.
Boboev said that the response from the court followed after a lawyer pilots sent a supervisory complaint from 21 in February of this year, demanding full justification of the pilots.

As the lawyer said, the judge Shamsiddin Timurov did not submit the pilots' complaint to the presidium of the regional court for consideration and decided to reject it as not having a basis. According to Boboev, Judge Timurov believes that the sentencing of the Kurgan-Tyube court was within the framework of the law.

The lawyers of the pilots, who do not agree with the wording, are preparing a complaint addressed to Muhabbat Azizova, the chairman of the regional court. According to Boboev, the actions of the pilots Sadovnichy and Rudenko do not contain the elements of crimes that are specified in the articles 335 (illegal crossing of the state border) and 289 (smuggling) of the Criminal Code of Tajikistan.
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    1. YARY
      +20
      28 March 2012 21: 26
      The situation is absurd and I believe that such an incident is an unfriendly act in relation to Russia! Fact.
      PS watched this mockery from the very beginning.
      1. 0
        28 March 2012 23: 32
        Respected YARY, I personally did not study the materials of the case and did not check the corpus delicti, so I can not say anything about this case.

        You declare:
        Quote: Ardent
        The situation is absurd and I believe that such an incident is an unfriendly act in relation to Russia! Fact


        And you claim that this is a fact. If you followed the case from the very beginning, please share the facts, I can not find anywhere. Thank you in advance.

        PS can be in PM, but it’s better here, because, I think, many details do not know.
      2. +1
        29 March 2012 06: 37
        You didn’t say anything new .. That the verdict was clearly political for a long time, only no one canceled it ... Dushanbe still did not understand that stepping on a rake twice as much was more painful than one ...
        1. +2
          29 March 2012 06: 41
          Quote: older
          Dushanbe still did not understand that stepping on a rake two times is much more painful than one ...

          And how "he" will understand if there were no consequences. One-time expulsion of guest workers does not count. In such a situation, "he" will come without problems for the third time.
      3. Olegovich
        0
        29 March 2012 11: 09
        Yes, most likely, the planes have already been "attached", they are no longer there, so if the sentence is changed, then they will have to return, but there is nothing to return!
    2. 755962
      +12
      28 March 2012 21: 39
      But the planes remained with Tajikistan. Back in November, before the last sentence, the representative of Rolkan Valery Pfeffer assured MK that the Tajiks had started all this for the sake of profit in the form of two airplanes. It turns out that they got what they wanted. And how now can the Tajik courts acquit pilots? After all, if they are found not guilty, they will have to return the planes ... After April 7, I think many controversial issues will be resolved.
      1. 0
        29 March 2012 06: 35
        Quote: 755962
        After April 7, I think many controversial issues will be resolved.

        And what will happen on April 7?
        1. 755962
          0
          April 1 2012 18: 51
          Sorry, after MAY 7,
    3. sergskak
      +4
      28 March 2012 21: 40
      I would like more information about the cargo. I can’t believe that simply apricot apricots were arrested on airplanes. Would you like to cache? It’s also strange! In my opinion, they don’t finish something.
      1. VAF
        VAF
        0
        28 March 2012 22: 57
        Quote: sergskak
        I would like more information about the cargo.


        There is nothing of "value" in the cargo for Tajik customs officers and border guards, the usual repair kit for airplanes, moreover, declared and not unloaded in Tajikistan!
        Just, as you say, two good airplanes stupidly "seized". their own transport aviation, and even more so they do not have such a plan, especially since the machines are "commercial"!
        Therefore, thank God that they gave the pilots, well, the cars will most likely have to "part" and if the director of the company insured his planes as it should be, and did not shift "onto the shoulders" of the customer, then everything will be fine, he will receive money and buy more recent ones. machines, but if you did wrong or ... well, there are all sorts of ways and methods, then there may be problems!
        So I hope for a successful outcome of this "case" although there are very big doubts!
        1. Mr.Advokat
          +1
          29 March 2012 06: 02
          There will be no insurance - there is a court verdict, which refers to smuggling. And this is the reason for the insurance to refuse to pay because the loss of aircraft occurred due to the fault of the airline.
          1. Sergh
            +1
            29 March 2012 06: 29
            Damascus - SANA
            In the afternoon of March 28, the deadline for accepting documents from candidates for deputies of the People’s Council of the SAR, the election of which is scheduled for May 7 this year, has ended.

            The chairman of the Central Election Commission, Khalaf Al-Azzawi, said that subcommittees in the provinces prepare lists of candidates in two groups - "A" and "B", indicating their education and social status. The names of the candidates will be announced shortly.

            It should be recalled that in accordance with the presidential decree No. 120 of 2012, the deadline for the submission of documents by candidates was extended until March 28 of the current year.
    4. +8
      28 March 2012 21: 44
      Tajiks know that Russia has a certain geopolitical interest, and so they are building three of themselves, and all their gang is being fed (Tajiks, Uzbeks, etc.). due to gastric. Although you should not expect anything good from guests of the capital, and no matter how all this later escalated into pogroms in both France and Germany!
    5. YARY
      +14
      28 March 2012 21: 46
      Exactly six months before the Russian pilot was detained in Tajikistan, a Moscow Region court sentenced the brother-in-law of the husband of the daughter of Emomali Rakhmon to 9,5 years in a correctional colony. The decision was harsh, but fair - four criminals from Tajikistan found more than 9 kilograms of one of the hardest drugs - heroin.
      The aircraft belonged to the Russian airline of the Russian airline Rolkan Investmens Ltd, and a private company from the United Arab Emirate Aerospace Consortium rented them for work in Afghanistan. An-72 transported humanitarian goods under the auspices of the UN through a warring country until the contract came to an end.

      Both sides were asked from the Kabul airfield, where there was not enough space for other aircraft. Sadovnichy and Rudenko, having completed all the necessary documents, headed for the Tajik airfield Kurgan-Tyube.

      However, “miracles” began already in the sky over Tajikistan. The Kurgan-Tyube controllers suddenly announced that they had lost their permit numbers and advised both sides to turn back to Kabul. However, the fuel in the AN-72 was hardly enough for the return "walk", and the pilots requested an emergency landing. The Tajiks did not object.


      Already on the ground, the plane was searched by customs officers, border guards, and only representatives of the local state security found fault with a disassembled spare engine on one of the sides. So a criminal case was born under three articles - “violation of the state border”, “international flight rules” and “smuggling”.
      According to Article 58 of the Air Code of Russia and Article 34 of the Code of Tajikistan, the crew commander may change his flight plan,

      They requested an emergency landing, taking into account the remaining fuel. Because, if he were returning to Kabul, then one plane would not have enough 900 liters, and the other 1200. The air navigation first forbade them to land, and then, when they had to request it, they gave permission.


      As far as I know, in international rules there is an article according to which "forced" are obliged to give in any case!
      So judge for yourself what kind of court action !!!
      1. bremest
        +2
        28 March 2012 22: 57
        This relative has already been acquitted by the Moscow Regional Court on the supervisory appeal of a lawyer. This is how "Rakhmonovshchina" is seeking freedom for its militants and drug couriers. It must be tougher with these bandits. It seems that it is necessary to initiate a criminal case in connection with the illegal detention of the pilots and, as far as possible, and the appearance of Tajik investigators and judges on the territory of Russia, to arrest and try. And as soon as the planes appear in the airspace of Russia, they must be landed and returned to their rightful owner.
    6. +4
      28 March 2012 21: 47
      Absurdity: What are the Tajik authorities trying to achieve? Does anyone understand something? This judge will be torn to pieces by the Gaster when they begin to return to their homeland in an endless stream! am
      1. Comrade
        -1
        28 March 2012 21: 55
        What does Gaster have to do with it at once? You need to be able to solve problems without turning off the gas and without expelling simple hard workers already.
        1. +2
          28 March 2012 22: 21
          Comrade,
          How else to negotiate with the blackmailers?! Total lawlessness! What did they violate? They brought the spare engine! From their own plane. They made an emergency landing. And they attributed to them smuggling!
          1. Comrade
            -3
            28 March 2012 23: 22
            Sergo, how do you know that there was only an engine ??? Could carry anything ... up to the fragments of NATO missiles to drugs ..

            I remember once a Korean (civilian) plane crossed the border of the RSFSR and was shot down by a fighter. The plane was full of passengers.
            1. +1
              29 March 2012 06: 19
              Comrade,
              And what side is the Korean plane here, which was not going to land, and this one, which itself requested a landing?
              1. Comrade
                -3
                29 March 2012 07: 51
                He gave an example.
                at the expense of the fact that they requested a landing for the first time I hear.
                1. andrklimanov
                  0
                  30 March 2012 00: 41
                  Quote: Comrade
                  at the expense of the fact that they requested a landing for the first time I hear.

                  Are you a Tajik airport dispatcher? or Kyrgyz-Russian builder of a large object in Russia
                  who admits to you that the pilots asked for the compelled, but they were refused and after all the same they sat down they arrested them for illegal violation of the borders
            2. Shohmansur
              -1
              29 March 2012 08: 21
              Comrade, I fully support you. As long as Russia uses Gena Onishchenko and workers as political pressure, no one will respect and respect the country!
              We must already decide who we are. Petty blackmailers or the State?
              1. andrklimanov
                0
                30 March 2012 00: 35
                Quote: Shohmansur
                Comrade, I fully support you. As long as Russia uses Gena Onishchenko and workers as political pressure, no one will respect and respect the country!

                REPEAT, offer to bomb? To be afraid, respected
            3. andrklimanov
              0
              30 March 2012 00: 46
              Quote: Comrade
              The plane was full of passengers.

              lies, there were no passengers there! and don’t say that you saw them yourself! but there was intelligence equipment! and in general we can’t know something about this case, not you, not me!
        2. andrklimanov
          +5
          28 March 2012 23: 53
          Quote: Comrade
          What does Gaster have to do with it at once?


          even though 90% of the ghasts go "charged" the hero, they are not needed here until we have 13% unemployment, why pay THEM 20p which THEY will take out of the country? it is better to pay OWN 50k r that will remain in the country!
          CONCLUSION from THEM is one harm, you do not need to plant them with a "nasty broom" (we will not feed everyone)
          1. Comrade
            -6
            29 March 2012 00: 12
            90% ??????????????????? Where does this information come from? Are you a border guard?
            The fact that they are traveling does not affect our workplaces in any way - I will not go to work as a loader or a janitor. There are any jobs that I eat.
            1. +4
              29 March 2012 06: 28
              Comrade,
              And what is it? Blue blood don’t give? And you’ll go into a life of stealing, do you know that thanks to these unfortunate workers in Russia, a whole layer of professional workers was destroyed. The builder has become synonymous with the word Tajik! And what unemployment among our youth ! And they don’t go there for this reason!
              1. Comrade
                -3
                29 March 2012 07: 48
                Sergo forbid Nikolai the saint from blue bloods, we still didn’t have enough ... I won’t go because after this they won’t take us anywhere ...

                I know the opposite, that thanks to Tajiks and Uzbeks, construction projects are underway. The formation was not destroyed by the Tajiks, do not invent, our layer simply swelled. I know what I say, I worked at construction sites. Tajiks plow like donkeys.
                1. andrklimanov
                  -1
                  29 March 2012 21: 53
                  Quote: Comrade
                  I know the opposite, thanks to Tajiks and Uzbeks, construction projects are underway

                  and then the house was handed over and the facing brick from the 6th to the 7th floor was showered on the sidewalk in the city of Klimovsk
                  Quote: Comrade
                  Tajiks plow like asses

                  they do not plow, they "mow" there are VERY rare exceptions when the gastor really knows how and does something

                  Quote: Comrade
                  I know what I'm saying, I myself worked at construction sites

                  it seemed to me that YOU and "manual" labor are not quite compatible laughing
            2. andrklimanov
              -1
              29 March 2012 21: 46
              I write this because I myself work as an installer, and I come across "would-be builders" every day! that's why I know the situation a little better than you!
              look here; Gastor needs to find housing, he has to pay the money that he will "take out of the Russian economy," even if the amount is 20000 per month. + they are taking "Geru"
              a Russian can be paid 50000 rubles a month and this money will remain in Russia (they will pay 50k. I will sweep my yard myself and there will be SEA of them) no need to look for housing, gastor will screw up (do the work crookedly, rape, or rob) and go home. LOOK FOR WIND IN THE FIELD! Russian is always "within reach"
              so something like this smile
            3. andrklimanov
              +2
              30 March 2012 01: 11
              Quote: Comrade
              90% ??????????????????? Where does this information come from? Are you a border guard?

              I am not a border guard, I work at construction sites and periodically communicate with Tajiks, Uzbeks, etc.
              I PERSONALLY, I talked with a Tajik who was given to us in the "helpers" his brother was detained with 300g of "shit", and he complained that they had almost the only opportunity to earn money, heroin, as his brother's lawyer shod him, and ........ ....
              shorter carry almost everything
          2. Comrade
            -1
            29 March 2012 05: 28
            No, well, it turns out that 90%, as you say, carry heroin from Central Asia? But is it not only Tajiks and Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Kazakhs, it’s also Russians and others that come out? It turns out that our border guards are not border guards, but a sieve ???

            Instead of minuses, I would like to hear the answer. Those who know that I'm right, but have nothing to say in reply, are minus.
            1. +2
              29 March 2012 06: 34
              Comrade,
              Tajikistan is a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO). We have common border protection with the forces of 201 divisions with Tajiks, and I can hardly imagine how much it is locked.
              1. Comrade
                -1
                29 March 2012 07: 50
                Hoping for Tajikistan is stupid !!! What kind of CSTO is it? Here with China, with Iran would be the CSTO.
            2. andrklimanov
              -1
              29 March 2012 22: 04
              Quote: Comrade
              It turns out that our border guards are not border guards, but a sieve ???

              not all border guards are sieve, but we are all people, and people are all different!

              Quote: Comrade
              No, well, it turns out that 90%, as you say, carry heroin from Central Asia?

              not 90%, but 100% from there! Or do you think that opiates (poppy) are grown in Europe? in Europe - "acid", in South America - "coke", Central Asia - "hera"


              Quote: Comrade
              And this is not only Tajiks and Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Kazakhs, is this also Russian and other things coming out?

              absolutely right! BUT this is all 0.01% traffic, 99.99% Tajiks!
      2. andrklimanov
        +1
        30 March 2012 00: 58
        Quote: sergo0000
        Gaster will tear this judge to pieces when they begin to return to their homeland in an endless stream!

        without them, they must all be expelled! if you wanted independence, get it, spin as you like, and Belarusians and Ukrainians who didn’t promise to slaughter the Russians and the Belarusians and the Ukrainians who did not promise to slaughter, after separating from Russia (when they kicked the Russians out of the Tajiks, Kyrgyz, Kazakhs), the Armenians of Kyrgyzstan were drenched in the streets! Why do we have to treat them better than they do to us?
    7. +6
      28 March 2012 21: 53
      I would like more information about the cargo.
      At that time, I had enough of this information!
      1. As it turned out, the Afghan aviation authorities did ask their Tajik counterparts to detain the planes of Rolkan Investments Ltd. and arrest the pilots, reports the BBC citing a source in Kabul.
      In addition, seven employees of the state-owned airline Ariana were detained in Afghanistan, who are accused of illegally helping Rolkan pilots leave the country this spring.
      By the way, the An-72 aircraft arrested by the Tajik side were registered in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.


      2. Russia's interest in Tajikistan is not only economic. Our largest external military base is located there - the 201 division. In the spring of 2012, Russia and Tajikistan should sign an agreement to extend the basing of divisions for another 49 years. As in the case of the fleet in Sevastopol, the 201 division will be the subject of bargaining.

      3. Surprisingly, it is the CIS countries, whose well-being is based on Russian loans and gas discounts, who do not shun blackmail and political tricks. In the 2010 year, Uzbekistan sentenced a citizen of the Russian Federation, Yuri Korepanov, for betraying the Uzbek "homeland" to 16 years in prison, recalls Yevgeny Minchenko, a political scientist at the International Institute for Political Expertise. In his opinion, if Russia does not find a way to protect the pilots and stop the tendency of political courts over Russians, then the citizens of the Russian Federation will again and again find themselves hostages of the complicated relationship between Russia and the CIS countries.
      December 8 will be exactly 20 years since the collapse of the USSR, and if the former allies have not yet learned to live independently, they certainly have become more inventive in influencing their more prosperous neighbors.
    8. Comrade
      +1
      28 March 2012 21: 56
      They seemed to be released a long time ago ??? Or did I miss something ??? !!!
      1. +1
        29 March 2012 00: 13
        Quote: VadimSt
        At that time, I had enough of this information!

        Naturally, they are free. I just explained the reasons and the development of events in that period.
    9. OberSKy
      +3
      28 March 2012 22: 01
      Yes, they just needed airplanes, and with such a vile and insidious plan they appropriated them!
    10. 0
      28 March 2012 22: 07
      755962,
      And what will happen after April 7
      Evgeny?
    11. 101
      101
      +4
      28 March 2012 22: 10
      Ours let go of the brother-in-law of their boss who had sat down with us for heroin, then let go of ours. They planted them for exchange. The story is dirty. They simply forced us to let the drug dealers go.
      1. +3
        28 March 2012 22: 59
        Quote: 101
        The story is dirty We were simply forced to release drug dealers

        If this is the case, then these bastards must be returned to the Russian prison, and if it is impossible, then physically destroyed, wherever they are. What would be inconsequential for others to blackmail Russia.
        1. 0
          29 March 2012 01: 12
          Quote: Nick
          If so, then these bastards must be returned to a Russian prison,
          and if impossible, then destroy physically, wherever they are. What would be inconsequential for others to blackmail Russia.

          I AGREE THAT IS THIS IS THIS IS THE "MOSSAD" WORKS ...

          I CAN NOT RIGHT, BUT OUR SCIENCE SEEMS TO ME NOT ACTING,
          Although they attributed to us LITVINENKO ...
    12. patriot2
      +2
      28 March 2012 22: 14
      Tajik leaders want to show their people that they are in control of their situation. And then the case turned up with airplanes. Again, poor Gaster will be put on comfortable trains and sent to their homeland at the expense of Russia, because they have already transferred the pennies to their relatives. It's sad, somehow. sad
    13. +2
      28 March 2012 22: 19
      Personally, I got the impression that this whole performance pursues only one goal - the taking of an airplane (in this case, the An-72). Everything else is just a lopsided decor and a muddy background ...
    14. +2
      28 March 2012 22: 29
      Destroy planes stolen from the Russian Federation-not ours, not yours. Maybe others will be discouraged. HA HA HA HA HA! (evil laugh).
    15. Uralm
      +2
      28 March 2012 22: 35
      Tajiks are definitely crazy. And so the mind was not enough. About greed, arrogance, cunning I do not say of course
      1. Shohmansur
        -3
        29 March 2012 08: 00
        Don't talk about Abu Ali ibn Sino either, and you shouldn't talk about Rudaki and Omar Khayyam. When these Great Ones had "little intelligence", unfortunately, our ancestors ran through the trees.
        1. andrklimanov
          +1
          29 March 2012 22: 35
          Dear, he is not talking about all Tajiks, but about the government. So don’t boil smile
          about the trees YOUR ancestors ran through, we are Russians, we don’t know, but we sympathize! smile
          1. Shohmansur
            -2
            29 March 2012 23: 16
            Are you andrklimanov common with you, Russian ancestors :) Do you want a banana? fellow
            1. andrklimanov
              +2
              30 March 2012 00: 15
              not, ATP, I somehow respect apples more smile
    16. +1
      28 March 2012 22: 35
      the benefits they want. squeeze planes, bargain for the 201st division, and so on. Regrettably, many post-Soviet republics are now parasitizing Russia with might and main.
    17. Kochetkov.serzh
      +1
      28 March 2012 22: 36
      I also think that they just need a plane. In the end, we are not fools and we know where and what is possible and where not.
    18. +2
      28 March 2012 22: 37
      Well, they thought it was wrong ... An article flashed in a Russian newspaper that a decision was sent to interpolation to detain the planes ... as illegally seized ... So let them fly at home .... from the fence to the fence ...
    19. savelij
      +4
      28 March 2012 22: 42
      This situation shows the political weight of Russia on the world stage! If the dwarf Tajikistan puts the kui on Russia, then what can we say about large countries. For example, under the agreement, Tajikistan gives China 3% of the territory in the east of the country (or 1 thousand square kilometers). According to Tajik Foreign Minister Hamrokhon Zarifi, the disputed territories covered about 28,5 thousand square kilometers of present-day Tajikistan, or almost 20% of the republic’s territory.


      "The signing of this protocol is a great victory for Tajik diplomacy," the head of the foreign ministry said!

      And here Russia cannot protect some pilots. Shame and disgrace! As always, empty cheeks and shaking of the air!
    20. +1
      28 March 2012 22: 55
      The whole situation shows that in Russia the system of politics - HALF-METERS - has not ended, but it consists in the fact that the authorities can only firmly speak,
      The pilots became hostages of the situation. The authorities of the Russian Federation raised their rating sharply in front of their people, and those, in turn, raised their image in front of their people stood in a rack.
      It's just that the leaders on both sides first had to have a get-together, otherwise it turned out "Bari are quarreling among slaves, their foreheads are cracking"
    21. io_stalin
      0
      28 March 2012 23: 09
      Bad, very bad.
      You must not concede yours.
      I am sure that the Russian authorities have leverage to make Rakhmon respect us.
      Men need to be returned home, to families.
    22. +1
      28 March 2012 23: 32
      What do we have? They didn’t return the planes (read - they misappropriated), they didn’t take any convictions, they didn’t miss the supervisory appeal, the crew was granted amnesty (Russian pressure) ...
      So I want Tajikistan to show its significance, but so stupid that in the end, judging by the reviews, they got the opposite result ...
      Small dirty tricks, are there few problems?
    23. 101
      101
      +3
      29 March 2012 00: 09
      Samsebenaume The trouble is that it’s not under pressure. Ours caught heroin from the coolest sons of their leaders. They were judged for 9.6 years. Tajiks took ours, too, gave nine and a half. They were indignant at us for a year. Then they released us under an amnesty when we reviewed the case and released the Bayan sons for Here we have managed to exert such pressure. A plane was confiscated for lost profits
      1. 0
        29 March 2012 00: 44
        101
        Thanks for the info. I did not know this, because I was not interested in this issue. So they just made an exchange. Nothing to be proud of ...
    24. +2
      29 March 2012 03: 20
      the minuscule minus definitely but all the same, the Russian-Estonian crew in Tajikistan is how and why? and most importantly to whom?
    25. +2
      29 March 2012 06: 11
      and this is when the kids are growing up and their needs are increasing, and in order to earn money, the head of the family is ready to fly to hell with pies so that he would be guaranteed to get a salary at the end of the month, preferably from Baku ...
    26. +2
      29 March 2012 09: 14
      Somewhere in the high mountains
      For * pounding Tajiks ...
      Soon, soon the Taliban
      Will bring the furry beast
      Nicknamed FUN !!!
    27. +2
      29 March 2012 09: 35
      nokki,
      I think all patience has a limit. They are being cut now, but I think this is just the beginning. These "honest workers" are already raising their hand against our veterans in Kaliningrad!
    28. welder
      +1
      29 March 2012 09: 57
      ata: Comrade
      What does Gaster have to do with it at once?
      at least despite the fact that 90% gast, they go
      "charged" hero, they are not here
      needed while we have 13%
      unemployment, why pay IM 20p
      which they will be removed from the country?
      better to pay OWN 50k p
      who will stay in the country!
      CONCLUSION FROM THEM is one harm, drive them
      You don't need to plant a "nasty broom"
      (we will not feed everyone) .................... But don’t you know that our bureaucrats are welded on these guest workers, they’re paid 50 for papers, and they get 15 (figuratively speaking ) and where does the difference go ??? not to hell to them here
      1. Comrade
        -1
        29 March 2012 21: 12
        Are you writing from Poland? laughing or from Moscow?
    29. 0
      29 March 2012 10: 47
      The whole problem is money
      The state has a profit
      1. Foreign use tax
      2. Money Transfer Tax
      3. Fin maintenance costs are minimal
      4. Additional leverage (on the employer)

      The employer is also profitable, because by law the social tax on gastres is not taken, so here you have arithmetic and pay gastron by 20% more than a Russian and demand 200% of work from him; here you have the profit 80% + tax percentage. and ours are no longer profitable

      so they will sit with us all the riffraff, BECAUSE A GOOD SPECIALIST he is at home to grasp. And since we have their cop .... sorry pents they crack in their wins on our - everything is natural.

      And so it is right to drive them, and in their place those who allowed them to court.
      Ato, there are already cases of old women who are lonely goofy, then families are transported ...
      and those .....
    30. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      +2
      29 March 2012 10: 50
      '' The decision of the court concerning the confiscation of the AN-72 aircraft remained unchanged. '' - THEY WERE NEEDED AIRCRAFT AND THE REST IS ALL COMEDY!
    31. Vito
      +2
      29 March 2012 10: 57
      IF OUR "DEMOCRATIC" POWER DOES NOT GIVE A CLEAR AND UNSENSUELY UNDERSTANDING TO THE TAJIK PARTNERS THAT IT'S NOT GOOD TO DO THIS, WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY AIRPLANES OR AIRPLANES! AND THE POWER WILL NOT BE ABLE; HER'S TEETH FROM CORRUPTION ROTTED!
    32. Comrade
      0
      29 March 2012 21: 35
      You that gentlemen Muscovites really think that if we send out guest workers to all political misunderstandings, turn off the gas, and so on, will we succeed ???
      I was just born in Kyrgyzstan myself and thanks to this I already suffered quite a lot ... although my father and mother are natives of the RSFSR. They don’t take normal work, they’ve just gotten away from here to their homeland))) This is a bad thing for the Russians, a little that so are their own Russians, but they are being expelled from Central Asia.
      Those who carry drugs can’t be allowed to go to Russia anymore. Some komenty make laugh and make you think, 90% of Tajiks carry heroin ... HOW ??????? Why do you let them in ?????????? ???? Such a spit in the border guards is delicious ... Do you know the logic?
      At the expense of the construction site ... the construction site is 20 Russians, 10 Dargins, 5 Uzbeks, 3 Tajiks, Tatars, all citizens of the Russian Federation, who will be evicted? It’s very difficult to get a job as a citizen of the Russian Federation, not like not a citizen ... I'm connected with one huge construction object in the recent past, I can tell you 100% not a single citizen is not there, and if there are Tajiks (whom you don’t like so much) then they are all citizens of the Russian Federation-legal !!!
      I don’t give a damn about it, bet it, I’ll work on other topics.
      1. Shohmansur
        -1
        29 March 2012 22: 31
        Forget the land, just forget it. With a smart quarrel, pick up the mind. You should not swear with many! drinks
        1. Comrade
          -1
          30 March 2012 00: 19
          Yes, I don’t want to swear ... I don’t like ... but would you agree that 90% of Central Asia is raving heroin?! (It turns out I also brought heroin) If I knew Tajiks, Uzbeks as moral freaks, I wouldn’t write ... or is it so lucky for me to communicate with normal people)))
          1. andrklimanov
            0
            30 March 2012 01: 25
            Quote: Comrade
            but you must admit that 90% of the Central Asian are raving heroin ?!

            in my opinion, nonsense, not to see the obvious, any child will tell you where the gerych is coming from from Afgan through Tajikistan, I even know that the gerych is thrown off the train before reaching Moscow


            how lucky you are !!! holy people surround you, couriers ride in another carriage laughing
            Quote: Comrade
            or is it so lucky for me to communicate with normal people)))
            1. Comrade
              0
              30 March 2012 20: 25
              Quote: andrklimanov
              in my opinion, nonsense, not to see the obvious, any child will tell you where the gerych is coming from from Afgan through Tajikistan, I even know that the gerych is thrown off the train before reaching Moscow

              Are there border guards here?

              Klimanov, have you ever traveled by train across the border with Kazakhstan?
      2. andrklimanov
        -2
        29 March 2012 23: 12
        Quote: Comrade
        Are you gentlemen Muscovites

        not all here are Muscovites

        Quote: Comrade
        really think that if we send out guest workers to all political misunderstandings, turn off the gas, and so on, will we succeed ???

        Do you propose to respond to blackmail by lowering gas prices? or how can America start bombing?
        Quote: Comrade
        we will send guest workers,

        YES!!! It was written above!
        Quote: Comrade
        I was just born in Kyrgyzstan myself and thanks to this I have already suffered enough

        my wife was born in Turkmenistan, an uncle lived in Kazakhstan, and they were kicked out of there, they said that in a few days you won’t leave, we’ll start cutting! left for Russia and live to this day safely! why do you remain in Kyrgyzstan I do not understand!

        Quote: Comrade
        .I am associated with one huge construction object in the recent past, I can tell you 100% not a single citizen is not there, and if there are Tajiks (whom you don’t like so much) then they are all citizens of the Russian Federation-legal !!!

        I will not even argue, this is nonsense
        Quote: Comrade
        I don’t give a damn about it, bet, I’ll work on other topics

        do you earn plus signs here? regrettable! express your opinion, not "build a career" laughing
    33. andrklimanov
      +1
      29 March 2012 22: 46
      no matter how "flawed and petty" the power of this or that country was, it is unlikely that they began to raise such a high because of the planes, here the reason is clearly more serious! it seems that we will not know the true reasons (at least in the near future)
      most likely the case is somehow related to drugs

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