One and a half billion "Matilda" at the funeral of Russian cinema

As promised, I threw away a certain amount of time and money to watch the masterpiece film "Matilda". And in connection with the viewing I have some questions.

In general, I was convinced up to this point that the “Viking” is that bottom, below which there is no way. It turns out that the question is only in the amount of money. A hit of one and a half billion was just awesome.

Seriously I believe that in the domestic cinema now you can put a big and bold cross. It simply is no more, and, apparently, will not be. Like art.

Of course, it will remain, it is today a very good feeding. I can not even imagine how much was “sawed off” from the budget of this outright nonsense, born in the head of the author of the script.

Moreover, I frankly suspect Poklonskaya and the Teachers in collusion. Now I can’t explain the advertising campaign that Poklonskaya arranged for this movie to anything else.

I will not touch the film, enough has been said about it, my opinion is an absolute dummy that does not carry anything in itself. Neither historical truth, no plot. The latter was particularly outraged. Especially did not expect the truth. Who needs it today?

But I really want to say a few words about our “cinema”. At least simply because instead of this “masterpiece” it was possible to cut down 12 tanks T-90 Newcomers. Which will bring really more benefits than this. Even if you just sell them.

Degradation

The only thing that comes to mind after watching "Salute-7" and "Matilda". Frank and complete degradation of all creators.

I understand that I really want the filmmakers to try where they can make movies. And they gave me some kind of a little fly. Well, Master has something, and there are a couple of orders, and three prizes for local bottling. But I want, of course, something from Cannes or Hollywood. I really want to.

About the virtually unknown author of the script of Terekhov, who was awarded a prize for a novel from the 800 pages, in general, there is nothing to say. The Big Book is strong. Apparently, I also wanted something.

But the main thing - who gave them so much money so worthlessly spent?

No, costumes, furnishings, decorations - everything is fine here. And the actors again (as in “Salute”) tried their best. I see.

It was not visible only the essence and the script. Kill God, well, did not see. And not because he didn’t want, he really wanted to, he didn’t watch anything or read from the reviews on purpose. They didn’t deliver a script by which it would be possible to at least understand something in the film.

Zero cold and vacuum in the head after viewing.

I do not understand, by the way, from which started Poklonskaya. There was no Nicholas II film there. There was an alternative tale about a person who was relatively similar to Nikolai Alexandrovich, but who had no external resemblance, nor the slightest resemblance.
Instead of a cultural (who has doubts?), Educated (I would try such a father to be a boor), a calm (according to the memoirs of many contemporaries) person, I was again treated with hysterics.

Is this a new trend like this - Russians wiping out for any reason and without it?

Apparently now yes.

If earlier Hollywood directors and screenwriters showed us as drunks of the highest category, then ours for the sake of you do not understand what and who are shown Russians as people with a frankly unstable psyche.

Apparently, no matter what should be Russian on the screen, just to be flawed.

Lord Shipenko, Kravchuk, Teacher, I understood, thank you. From the third time it came.

Well, at the same time and the masters of writers low bow. Rubanov, Smirnov, Terekhov, Planes, Chupov ...

Beautiful Russian people are all willing to show, if not a beautiful movie, so at least "how it was in reality."

But in fact - another nonsense. Very expensive. And again, frankly mean.

Well, gentlemen, since we have a question, what difference does it make where to see ourselves, as a representative of the people on the screen, in the form of a miserable hysterical or drunkard? Then it's better to watch American films for sure. There though the plot is present. No claim to historicity. And they can shoot there.

Everything is better than giving money for the dismal attempts to "make, as in Hollywood," our homegrown "directors" who have reached the budget.

At least, the Russian cinema with a signboard has lost all its appeal to me. Butor, fake and all that.

And the last question that torments me all this time: it is interesting, and who will pay damages? Judging by the dynamics of fees, losses will be in the region of a billion-something.

Interestingly, the Master will be given an order for such merit, as it is now accepted here?

Or is it in debt trap, work out?

Comments

[Wolka]

apparently, according to the author, Russian cinema was struck by a cancerous tumor of corruption, with numerous and extensive metastases ...

[populist]

But the main thing - who gave them so much money so worthlessly spent?

The simple question and answer is simple. Money gave Medinsky. And also (and above) - Medvedev and Putin. "The Holy Trinity"

[Shurik70]

The fact that Poklonskaya drives about "insulting the holy kings" - this is crazy nonsense.
But her other post is really important. And here I agree with her, we need to figure out what the people's money was spent on.

Earlier, I wrote a request to the Accounts Chamber. There she received an answer that, according to estimates by Matilda, it cost 814 million 265 thousand rubles. The source was including budget money in the form of subsidies. They amounted to 280 million rubles. The specific amount after all calculations will be known on September 30. I will make another request for verification, so that it doesn’t work out like with the other film of the Master “Treasures of Ermak”. State money was also allocated. But the output was a film under the amazing title “Call Myshkin”. The proceedings are still ongoing there. ”

[BAI]

Well - with the money everything seems to be clear: 800 million, state - 280. It is not clear where 1.5 billion came from. Why not 2 and not 3?
I can’t say anything about the film - I haven’t watched it, and probably I won’t.

[AUL]

And I will definitely see, thanks to Roman Skomorokhov. When they post it on the Internet (I won’t go to the cinema). I wonder why a person has boiled so? Looks like the event is really significant!

[Standard]

Quote from AUL

I wonder why a person has boiled so?

The man obviously knows the story - at least he read the memoirs of the same Kshesinsky.
I definitely won’t watch this film, if only because Kshesinskaya doesn’t look like herself. Instead of a "virgin in the body" worm. With breast-pimples.
And the director’s appearance is repulsive.
The thief is the thief.

[gm9019]

Quote from AUL

When they post it on the Internet (I won’t go to the cinema). I wonder why a person has boiled so? Looks like the event is really significant!

So do I. But a classmate came to visit from the United States, looked - the whole thing went to delight ... Apparently, for such "unpretentious" viewers, the film was made, because there’s simply nothing to talk about with this visiting comrade, I became quite unpretentious (((

[albert]

Quote from AUL

And I will definitely see, thanks to Roman Skomorokhov.

You can watch Bad Comedyan’s five-minute video on YouTube on this film. Save time and nerves.

[your1970]

“On October 28, the long-term rental started with a long-term build from Alexei Uchitel. The film“ Matilda ”has been in production since 2014 and, according to the director, cost $ 15 million. Have the costs paid off?
On the premiere day of wide rental, the tape collected more than 40 million rubles (approximately $ 660 thousand). Over the first weekend, the picture managed to raise over 250 million rubles (about $ 4.3 million)as officially announced by the dealer. The number of viewers exceeded 750 thousand people. "- Theoretically, they will now sell it on TV and it will be possible to try to rip off 280 public money from them

[iouris]

What product did these viewers get? I think fake. This, of course, is their market business, but, given that our “teachers” tried to lay a testicle on the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution and the murder of the family of the last emperor, this demonstration can be regarded as spiritually incontinent. We stand on and will stand, while ....

[Antianglosax]

In any case, to remove any dirty tricks on the money of taxpayers and then to show the same people stupid soothers, not just a bad manners - this is a mockery and a spit from the bohemian insignificant buggers.

[woron333444]

And I watched Matilda and already watched Trotsky. If you do not take into account that about the heir to the throne, then a normal film about love. But on the “Trotsky” Hollywood is definitely resting. In short, “Matilda” is a plus, and “Trotsky” is a minus. This is exactly the day of Unity and Consent. And I think the state has invested money on both films.

[Nonna]

And Skomorokhov. What you wrote about - the theft of budget money, a change in the script, millions that disappeared during the creation of this film - have long been voiced by State Duma deputy N. Poklonskaya, having sent 47 deputy requests to the Prosecutor General and personally to Mr. Chaika. At the same time, not receiving any response to any request. Where have you been all this time? Qualitative journalism involves informativeness and objectivity, not gossip and speculation. I suggest that you send a request for a corruption component in the production of this "masterpiece" to the Prosecutor General - it will be interesting to read the answer to the VO.

[svp67]

Quote: Nonna

State Duma deputy N. Poklonskaya has long voiced, having sent 47 deputy inquiries to the Prosecutor General and personally to Mr. Chaika.

And what else did Ms. Poklonskaya remember in her post on the anti-corruption committee? I didn’t see ANYTHING in “Matilda” that would discredit Nicholas-2, there are more questions for the film “Viking”, where the Equal-to-the-Apostles Prince Vladimir rapes women and does not disdain drugs, and the sin of fratricide .... And nothing, like that this film went without any excesses.

[Gary zucker]

The violence in the “Viking” was exclusively platonic, without removing the tangle, but the mushrooms, yes, the real ones. The whole crew was eating.

[Gardamir]

State Duma deputy N. Poklonskaya,

What she does, if so many requests sent. Is it time to investigate the activities of such a deputy.

[AUL]

Is it time to investigate the activities of such a deputy.

And the rest at the same time!

[Nonna]

Gardamir. Here you lead this investigation. At least do something in your life - bright and memorable. I hope the report on the investigation of the forum users show.

[Gardamir]

At least something

Beautifully said, but are you comparing me with whom? With this one that they untwisted and she constantly works out the number. Wait tomorrow, he will start screaming about the mausoleum, the day after tomorrow again. And the owner will order, so he will pour the bloody Kolya with slops.

[97110]

Quote: Shurik70

The fact that Poklonskaya drives about "insulting the holy kings" - this is crazy nonsense.

Not at all nonsense. Forget for a second that Poklonskaya ADVERTISES the film. And successfully advertises. I looked. Yes ... Pompous greatness is carried on a steam locomotive, which is 50% of the Ov-7024, personally repaired by V.I. Lenin with comrades at the Moscow Sorting station on the occasion of the first (?) subbotnik? Did you get a budget for Lebedyanka? Well, didn’t you have enough for the E-series steam engine? The country is a great railway power! - built the Trans-Siberian Railway, but didn’t find a steam locomotive for its, that is, its greatness? Is the inveterate ferryman from the song of Alla Borisovna used in the film also out of economy? This is a phenomenon of the Stargorod Nursing Home in kind. Where in the film an indispensable barrel of sauerkraut? Where is Ostap-Suleiman-Berta-Maria-Bender Bay with its relatively honest ways?

[zoolu350]

Having watched the film, I agree with the author, Nyasha is completely in conspiracy with the Teacher, for the film is thoroughly crusty. Nikolai No. 2 there generally goes as an indistinct appendix to the conflict 3 bitch (this conflict in my main plot of the film). Therefore, my opinion about Nyasha became final - an intelligent and beautiful adventurous bitch (ala Ksheshinskaya), who was piercing her career with an attractive face and something else.

[Reklastik]

Zakhar Prilepin once caustically noticed that the authorities in our country always surprisingly choose something rotten, with a reserve already obviously a failure: then Dima Medvedev will drink beer in front of everyone with Makarevich, and then he will scum Russia for the Crimea, then Vova Putin and Mikita Mikhalkov handle ... I thought that even Medinsky had another bottling after he chopped Latynina nuts, but no ... When they shot “28 Panfilov’s”, Medinsky sarcastically remarked that he wouldn’t officially help, because many films shot with the support of the Ministry of Culture, strangely fail over and over again, and that this support is a sign that the movie will be shitty))))

[Grandfather]

One and a half billion "Matilda" at the funeral of Russian cinema

wonder what? if the fish rots, then it stinks all and not in parts. although everyone knows where it rots, but they pretend that the smell is pleasant.

[DanSabaka]

Thanks to the author for advertising ..... I’ll definitely look at Salute-7 and Matilda ....

[210ox]

If it’s not a pity for money, then it’s better to try this emetic on the big screen. I looked at the laptop, I completely agree with Roman.

Quote: DanSabaka

Thanks to the author for advertising ..... I’ll definitely look at Salute-7 and Matilda ....

[BecmepH]

Quote: DanSabaka

Thanks to the author for advertising ..... I’ll definitely look at Salute-7 and Matilda ....

And on the contrary, I never watch films that are talked about too much.
Although bad, at least good. Boring ...

[DanSabaka]

In this case, I recommend the film "Time of the First", very little is said about it ....

[Letun]

Quote: DanSabaka

Thanks to the author for advertising ..... I’ll definitely look at Salute-7 and Matilda ....

Well then, also, see Attraction with the Viking. Well, for sure ... Personally, my fifth point flashed (well, as in this article by Roman) just after 30 minutes of watching Attraction. Sick. Then I started to watch Russian cinema.

[DanSabaka]

I don’t know anything about attraction, I watched it in Time of the First .... and I recommend it to everyone, at least the same Russian film was shot with budget money, by the way .....

[Azazel]

the point is not that Russian cinema or Soviet, the main thing is who allocate money for films ...
would give the same Bortko money, I assure the movie would be different ....
but Medinsky and his associates are more likely to be frank Russophobia liberals ....

[DanSabaka]

on "Time of the First" the same people and from the same budget allocated ....
let the viewer vote in rubles for what kind of movie he needs ....

[BecmepH]

Then I started to watch Russian cinema.

Well, at least you grabbed too much

[Letun]

Quote: BecmepH

Then I started to watch Russian cinema.

Well, at least you grabbed too much

The crew, the Viking, the Attraction ... This is gav ... er ... in short, low-quality ge advertised from each iron, advertised in news channels !!! As a result, a disgrace came out for which it is really a shame, absurd, side-handed imitation of Hollywood. And how then to relate to Russian cinema?

[zoolu350]

And what's wrong with "Attraction"? In my opinion, Bondarchuk could at least do something worthwhile, because in this film the wretchedness of our society shows through despite the abundance of varnish. And if he had openly told in the “Attraction” about the socio-economic formation of the aliens, the Russian oligarch would not have let him shoot for a long time, because for this film Bondarchuk was clearly not patted on the head.

[Greenwood]

A review of the film will tell you everything perfectly.

[zoolu350]

Well, I agree that there are heaps of delusional moments, and this speaks of the wretchedness of our society.

[Reserve officer]

Quote: DanSabaka

Thanks to the author for advertising ..... I’ll definitely look at Salute-7 and Matilda ....

Even if you don’t look, you won’t lose anything. Not masterpieces, to say the least.
But only the hysteria in the church and in Poklonskaya was not about the artistic value, but about the very personality of Nicholas. Say, all a lie.
If films with such pathetics were denounced, impudently lying about the Great Feat of the Soviet People in the war, if they defended the whole history of the country from lies, that would be worthy of respect. And so, some petty fuss around the most insignificant of the entire Romanov dynasty, betraying its purpose and country.

[svp67]

Quote: DanSabaka

Thanks to the author for advertising ..... I’ll definitely look at Salute-7 and Matilda ....

Push . “Salute-7” is worse in quality than “Time of the First”, precisely in the plot. Why did I invent such a scenario, collecting all the accidents at our stations into it, I don’t understand, since that flight was already very interesting and full of heroic deeds.
"Matilda" is really "gray" in the plot of the film. Although the desire of this lady to break into the high society is shown not bad. And here many historical facts are intertwined with fiction.
But what I disagree with the author of the article is that our cinema is dying.
In both films, VERY GOOD QUALITY of the picture, especially in composition, and it already costs a lot. This is exactly what our movie greatly lost to "Hollywood."
Yes, who wants to watch OUR film, which really has become a kind of “bright beacon”, is the film “Gogol”. The film, the strongest mixture of Hitchcock, King and Conan Doyle ... is bloody, but interesting to watch.

[albert]

Quote: DanSabaka

I will definitely see Salute-7

Vladimir Dzhanibekov, a participant in the Salute-7 rescue flight, spoke very negatively about this film.

[DanSabaka]

once responded, it means looked .... it is unlikely he would have criticized without looking .... so I don’t consider it possible to criticize what I know only by hearsay ....
and any hype, even critical - advertising .... and m with you in this advertising company we participate voluntarily and for free ....

[Gardamir]

according to the author

This is actually so. In the 90s, they did not give money for the cinema. Now if there is an anti-Russian or anti-Soviet scenario, then money will certainly be found.

[Finches]

It's not even about the money, the fact is that there are no talented directors or they, who are not numerous anyway, are simply being pushed! The fact that the state gives money for domestic cinema is good and right, but the lack of artistic censorship, criteria, tight control from the moment of choosing a theme and writing a script to the final credits is the main problem! But we have an extremely rotten creative "intelligentsia" formed since the mid-80s and this swamp is extremely difficult to control and manage! Not only are they not talented, but they are still ambitious, cynical, greedy and do not like Russia, looking with lust for the West, but some of them are also cunning assailants, realizing that they will be there only as sixes, they are building here in Russia, from themselves pseudo-patriots, receiving money from the treasury for this! That is the problem!
I didn’t watch Matilda, therefore I can’t judge the artistic value of the picture, but I’m still not inclined to dramatize the situation as much as Roman - there is still a choice - you don’t want, don’t look, you didn’t like it - you won’t please everyone! "War and Peace" is the same not everyone likes!

[badens1111]

Quote: Finches

But we have an extremely rotten creative "intelligentsia" formed since the mid-80s and this swamp is extremely difficult to control and manage! Not only are they not talented, but they are still ambitious, cynical, greedy and do not like Russia, looking with lust for the West, but some of them are also cunning assailants, realizing that they will be there only as sixes, they are building here in Russia, from themselves pseudo-patriots, receiving money from the treasury for this! That is the problem!

Lower the bar, from 60 all .. remember the “sixties” .. this population of the so-called intelligentsia then scattered the country in the wind .. And now their heirs hang around in different Councils under the President, looking sick at their physiognomy ..

[Finches]

Yes, I agree, many of the 60s played a role in raising a “worthy” shift!

[novel66]

they didn’t teach them to love their homeland

[Finches]

If Teacher had been born in the days of that Teacher, then he would have shot a movie somewhere in the Magadan region, without the right to correspond ...

[badens1111]

Quote: Finches

then he would make a movie somewhere in the Magadan area, without the right to correspond

And that would be absolutely correct.

[BecmepH]

but here is the lack of artistic censorship,

Ideology is needed for censorship ... But our Constitution does not provide for this.
Therefore, we will haw a full spoon like that

[Gardamir]

need an ideology.

we have an ideology. remember, someone said: "Russia is doomed (damned) to liberalism."

[DenZ]

Quote: Gardamir

we have an ideology. remember, someone said: "Russia is doomed (damned) to liberalism."

Why pay attention to any nonsense?

[Azazel]

Yes, if this shit would be removed with personal money, then you can also ignore ...
and when they make a film that disgraces us as a nation, and even for OUR money with you, it’s not nonsense ...
this is the height of cynicism !!!

[Gardamir]

Why pay attention to any nonsense?

You called the president’s words delirium?

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Gardamir

need an ideology.

we have an ideology. remember, someone said: "Russia is doomed (damned) to liberalism."

Pardon !!!!! HOW do we have no ideology? The bourgeois ideology of the ruling bourgeois party. Well, the oligarchy itself! It is such coquetry that there is no idology. She certainly is. One wall and the works of Solzhenitsyn are worth.
I support Roman’s articles, but I don’t agree that there is nothing in this film. There is suffering for that “Russia that we lost.” The most harmful film

[zoolu350]

There is an ideology of consumerism in the Russian Federation, but officially it does not exist, because it is not laid down in the Constitution.

[AUL]

but the lack of artistic censorship, criteria, tight control from the moment of choosing a topic and writing a script to the final credits is the main problem!

Of course, without state caesura everything will be bent! But censorship will trample some masterpieces! I remember there was such a masterpiece - the movie "Prize". And the cast is brilliant (Leonov, Yankovsky ...), and ideology at the level - take a look! This is the kind of movie we need, isn't it, Mr. Zyablintsev?

[Finches]

What is needed is not ideological censorship, but cultural, if you do not understand, moreover, for films for which budget money is allocated - and therefore there must be requirements! Such a movie should teach, educate, make a person better ... Truly, I emphasize, tell about our History , without excesses into cheers-patriotism or frank chernukha! That's what I had in mind! Well, the level of performance should be at the highest!

[AUL]

And who will carry out such censorship? Who will select and appoint these censors? EdRo? Ministry of Culture? Art workers? There, you know, people are very, very different, and their opinions are different too! You can put Kirkorov there, or N. Mikhalkov, or Shnurov ... Or you can strain Zyuganov or Menshikov ... Everyone has their own concept of culture.

[Finches]

This is another conversation, but Russia is not impoverished by highly cultured, knowledgeable people, specialists in their fields!

[AUL]

NO, no, the same conversation, do not evade! Russia is not impoverished cultural and talented - it is a fact. The question is who and how will choose from them! Cultural and talented - they are all different, each has its own views and preferences. That's why they are talented, and not the "gray mass". By what criteria and who should choose the “art censorship committee” from them (a priori it is assumed that a highly cultured person with impeccable taste chooses himself)? Where is the guarantee that the censor for a small but substantial reward will not miss outright vulgarity and chernukha (alas, this is also present in other areas where the people’s money is disproportionately larger than the budget of Matilda)?

[Finches]

What does evasion have to do with - you have already climbed into technical details - everything can happen, you won’t be able to remake human nature! I’m saying in general that strict control is needed over the quality and cultural level of the films produced at public expense!

[AUL]

So the devil is in the details! And in the details. And without them, your proposal is beautiful dreams and empty projects. A kind of sweet utopia. You can, of course, create another bureaucratic feeding trough with the right “LOW!”, But I doubt very much that the ARTISTIC value of film production will increase from this! But the financial one is likely to jump (kickbacks to those officials).

[Finches]

No need to smear everyone with black paint! If you are against creative censorship, based on "and who are the judges? "that’s okay! Then you don’t need to be indignant that low-quality films are being shot on state money - I’m personally on the drum! I look at it philosophically ... There was censorship in the USSR, albeit based on ideology, but shit was shot at times less ! And we all still enjoy watching these films several times a year!

[AUL]

No need to smear everyone with black paint!

What about me all Or we don’t have those whom we need to smear with shit not only with paint?

If you are against creative censorship on the basis of “who is the judge?” Okay! Then you don’t need to be indignant that low-quality films are made with state money - I’m personally on the drum!

And how to connect one with the other? Yes, I am against censorship, and I have made my case in this regard. I think it’s quite significant. You could not refute any of them, in any case. At the same time, in my comments, I was not outraged (I wrote somewhat differently), although I also do not like shit (sorry!) On the screen.

[your1970]

Quote: Finches

There was censorship in the USSR, albeit based on ideology, but shit was removed at times less!

is you getting excited. In some years, Soviet studios shot more 200 films a year.Having my hand at heart - how many good films you remember now Soviet (even using the Internet!) - a hundred - another, no more !!!! And there were a lot of stilted mediocre films
It was, it was ....

[97110]

Quote: Finches

But I generally say that strict control is needed over the quality and cultural level of the films produced, shot at public expense!

Do not share the sovereign position on Comrade. To Stalin? Skip movies about a bloody tyrant, or not? Or consult with the State Department in advance?

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Finches

But I generally say that strict control is needed over the quality and cultural level of the films produced, shot at public expense!

Or maybe no state at all. feeders? Let them feed with hire?

[Finches]

It is truth too!

[CONTROL]

Quote: Finches

What is needed is not ideological censorship, but cultural, if you do not understand, moreover, for films for which budget money is allocated - and therefore there must be requirements! Such a movie should teach, educate, make a person better ...!

I remembered something “in connection” - an anecdote from the life of Faina Ranevskaya (here is a worm - no protest! No - cautious objection ...):

In a conversation with a friend of the actress who worked on the radio, this actress, telling Ranevskaya about her personal life, said:
- Before the wedding, my future husband and I did not even kiss once!
“My dear, I don’t understand - are you bragging or complaining now?”

... with the "censorship of culture" - it is so ...

[BecmepH]

Quote: Finches

What is needed is not ideological censorship, but cultural, if you do not understand, moreover, for films for which budget money is allocated - and therefore there must be requirements! Such a movie should teach, educate, make a person better ... Truly, I emphasize, tell about our History , without excesses into cheers-patriotism or frank chernukha! That's what I had in mind! Well, the level of performance should be at the highest!

That's right you said. But! And how without ideological censorship? The film can be shot beautifully, easily, professionally, but ... For example, show the inner life of the underworld, living according to "concepts" and its own laws. The film was shot in such a way that we begin to sympathize with criminals and perceive their life as romance. And, on the contrary, contempt for the employees of the "internal organs". Is this not an ideology?
In recent years, we have been watching films in which the NKVD officers (especially), KGB agents, etc. presented, to put it mildly, not in the best light. One of the few films in this line is perhaps the Moment of Truth.
Really in these departments served only monsters and ghouls? Yes, this can not be! But only monsters are shown to us. Not an ideology?
You can wrap a movie about gays so beautifully ...
Okay, we will understand everything, and romantic youth? Not an ideology?
I am pleased to hear your opinion, dear Zyablitsov, but I do not want to debate.

[Finches]

I would say not ideology, but an objective reproduction of reality and history, if we talk about films about real characters and events taking place in reality, taking into account human values ​​and generally accepted moral standards in society! The same criminal can be quite nice, but the artist’s task is to show what is the reason for his fate, and the world doesn’t consist only of good and decent people, the main thing is to correctly place the accents! good what is bad!
However, I still had the introduction of control over the work for which the state gave money!
It is difficult to decide which is more important - the freedom of creativity or public principles ?! You correctly noticed - youth, how this or that “masterpiece” will affect it, but there are few things that can be solved by prohibitions, there must always be an alternative for a person ... Self-censorship must be strong in an artist, a real, talented artist, but what we see now - writers, just a dime a dozen, they write everything - whether it’s good or bad, I don’t know, but I have one fact - Great Russian literature was born because under oppression no less severe than in the USSR tsarist censorship, how should this be regarded? And today, ideological censorship has given way to commercial censorship - no one today would have published War and Peace in the form in which Tolstoy wrote it: protracted, a lot of French, all sorts of philosophical arguments, no sex and violence, well, etc. Absolutely not a commercial project! Therefore, simply summarizing it, this is a difficult question, but since capitalism, the state, and therefore taxpayers, have the right to demand a high-quality product from the artist for their money using the apparatus of creative censorship!

[cedar]

"... In recent years, we have been watching films in which the NKVD officers (especially), the KGB officers, etc., are, to put it mildly, not in the best light. One of the few films in this series is perhaps breaking the Moment of Truth."
Really in these departments served only monsters and ghouls? Yes, this can not be! But only monsters are shown to us. Not an ideology? ... "

Of course not. Therefore, we adhere to all enemies and traitors to evil.
Here is the latest film - a series from Channel 1 Sleeping, I highly recommend it. The fifth column from this film spat out everything and all its creators, Bondarchuk as a sponsor, too. They recognized their loved ones, because the howl and high rose to heaven ...



See at the root, dear.

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Quote from AUL

I remember there was such a masterpiece - the movie "Prize". And the cast is brilliant (Leonov, Yankovsky ...)

And there was an “Ordinary Miracle” - the same Yankovsky and Leonov (except for other stars).
And there was "The Same Munchausen" - also with Jankowski and the constellation of Soviet actors.
Why distort?

[AUL]

What am I distorting? What are you talking about? I myself can tell you a bunch of films where these magnificent actors played, starting with Zigzag of Fortune (Leonov) and Shield and Sword (Yankovsky). But here I have a vague suspicion that these excellent actors were not really eager to play in such a film as “Prize” (from the play “Minutes of one meeting”). But I had to.

[Gardamir]

film "Prize".

I was a schoolboy but I really liked the film. Although other times, other people. Then KVN liked, learned to write immediately wrote a letter to D. Sasha and Comrade Valais. And I got the answer. And now you look at that KVN, you’ve become a completely Russian citizen, it’s no longer catching.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote from AUL

But censorship will trample some masterpieces! I remember there was such a masterpiece - the movie "Prize". And the cast is brilliant (Leonov, Yankovsky ...), and ideology at the level - take a look! This is the kind of movie we need, isn't it, Mr. Zyablintsev?

And what about the "Prize"? The film was watched by 12,9 million viewers. So it was relevant to them. And how many watched “Matilda”. Isn’t the viewer voting for the film in the market in rubles?

[CONTROL]

Quote: Finches

It’s not even about money, the fact is that there are no talented directors

... there is no (ideological) motivation, but there is a stimulus!

Stimulus (stimulus - lat. Pointed stick, which animals were chased in ancient Rome)

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: CONTROL

Stimulus (stimulus - lat. Pointed stick, which animals were chased in ancient Rome)

You specify where they poked)))

[g1v2]

When I was a teenager in the late alliance, like everyone else, choking, I watched Western films in the video salon. We all collected photos with Stallone, Schwartz, Vandamych and so on. Soviet cinema could not offer teenagers, and these are the main visitors to the cinema halls, nothing like that. There were no normal fighters, horror movies, fiction. fantasy, even with detectives everything was so-so. Hence the tremendous loss in control of the younger generation. And of all my friends from the club where we practiced judo, while watching the same Rambo, only I understood that the main character is not me or my friends. We are those ridiculous Soviet soldiers who fall hundreds from the fire of a tough American hero. That this is propaganda, and it’s smart, even if those who soon wear military uniforms watch with enthusiasm how Rimbaud kills Russian soldiers. And what could Soviet cinema contrast with this? The bulk of good Soviet films was designed for an older viewer
Therefore, I personally did not wait for 28 Panfilov’s, maybe this film of the industry will not do. For example, I was waiting for "Defenders" about stupid superheroes. Not because they are a fan of such films, but because they are now very popular among teenagers and make the box office of the film industry. And sorry. that he was extremely weak. I hope that the first pancake is lumpy.
In general, such artisans as Bondarchuk or Bekmambetov are now needed. Which shoot average quality pictures without jerking up, but also without dips down. And we need 50 such Bondarchukov and Bekmambetovs. And they will have to give much more money. Not on Matilda, Leviathans, Salutes 7 or Vikings, but on the average level of feature films - action films, comedies, horror films, science fiction, fantasy and so on. We need the generation of national media content. If she does not exist, then teenagers will be brought up by Western films and games. With all the accompanying propaganda and instilling a Western view of history, morality and culture.
Unfortunately, Medinsky and others like him understand the problem, but do not understand how to solve it and therefore spend a lot of money not at all what is needed. Just because they don’t understand what exactly they need to give money to.

[Standard]

Quote: g1v2

don't understand how to solve it

You need to start a regular film business - as Hollywood once started.
After all, there were no gods.
Maybe you take a chance? (At least you’ll remake the 9th company. Like a remake)

[g1v2]

You just don’t start a movie business. It was a little competition at the time of the formation of Hollywood. Plus, they started pouring serious money into Hollywood as a means of propaganda. Now the cost of producing an a-class film is $ 20-30 million at a minimum. Blockbuster games - for 50 million. No private owner will invest so much money without a guarantee of their return. In the West, large companies invest in several such films at once. Half will fail, but the rest will beat this money and make a profit. We do not yet have such private traders who are ready to invest $ 100 million in the film business without a guarantee of their return. Only the state remains.

[BecmepH]

Unfortunately, Medinsky and others like him understand the problem, but do not understand how to solve it and therefore spend a lot of money not at all what is needed. Just because they don’t understand what exactly they need to give money to.

Let me disagree with this paragraph. Medinsky and his ilk understand the problem, that's for sure. Understand and

therefore, they spend a lot of money not at all what is needed.

This is all done intentionally. They are doing everything so that young people grow up ignorant, ignorant, morally licentious, without principles.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: g1v2

And of all my friends from the club where we practiced judo, while watching the same Rambo, only I understood that the main character is not me or my friends. We are those ridiculous Soviet soldiers who fall hundreds from the fire of a tough American hero.

Well, then you had such an environment. Most of my friends, after watching Rocky 4, confusedly admitted that they were rooting for Ivan Drago. Although they understood that Stallone would win ...

Quote: g1v2

And we need 50 such Bondarchukov and Bekmambetovs.

Yes, so much even in Hollywood is not ...

[Vend]

now you can put a big and bold cross on domestic cinema

Well, it's you in vain. There is "Legend No. 17", "Champions", etc. It is necessary to expel liberoid structures from financing Russian cinema.

[Grandfather]

when the country has such a "cinema", the country's future is sad ...

[Vend]

Quote: Dead Day

when the country has such a "cinema", the future of the country is sad ...]

Watch European cinema. there is still sadder.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Wend

Watch European cinema. there is still sadder.

Of course ... I do not want to turn Russia into Europe.

[Zheleznostop]

The trouble is not that there is such a cinema, the trouble is that such characters really exist.

[Buffet]

But! What is most surprising, many came to the conclusion that the film will not be a fountain. A lot of people expressed the opinion that Poklonskaya was in share. But the advertisement worked, he spent the money on the ticket and succumbed to the advertisement. I do not want to offend, but they brought the author like a lamb to the cinema and he looked. Where is the mind, where is the logic? And with the Viking, there’s a plug in every barrel. For example, I liked the movie Viking, and your argument is weak.

[nickname7]

Here is another movie review.
Dmitry Puchkov and Klim Zhukov about the feature film "Matilda"

[Poppy]

This is an unambiguous fact.
As a person who comes across a little bit of cinema, I can say that now the vast majority of “creators” have one goal when shooting a movie - to cut grandmas

[Lerik]

Yes, the point is not even corruption, namely, what the author of the article pointed out, namely, the meanness when showing Russians in all the films of the post-80s.

[Barbulator]

Interestingly, the Master will be given an order for such merit, as it is now accepted here?

- What order would I have in two weeks ...
- In two, it will not work, only by the end of the month, if that, the limit on culture has been exhausted.
- But in three weeks I will have to go to the festival in Cannes ...

- And my wife has an honorary title “national”, otherwise read the second year she goes to the “honored”, threatens to go completely into advertising.
- Well, it’s easier with this, just write your request, next week it will be “popular”.

- Yes, that’s why he should attach his son to a movie, he’s already waving great, he’s beating bricks with his head the first time.
- Tomorrow they will start filming "Shameful Cops", push them, they plan for five years, and then there are titles and honors.

[Same lech]

And the last question that torments me all this time: I wonder, who will recover the losses?

How who? ... taxpayers of Russia.
Confiscated money in the United States from our oligarchs ...
a bank of the Discovery or VTB-24 type burst ...
officials or contractors hired by them were stolen in some kind of state-scale large-scale project ... etc.
this damage will also be covered only by taxpayers of RUSSIA from their skinny pockets and savings, that is, the people ...
such is the financial system in RUSSIA ... bloodsuckers in a word.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

this damage will also be covered only by taxpayers of RUSSIA from their skinny pockets and savings, that is, the people

Dear The same LYOKHA, obviously, it is not known that the main taxpayer is not “people with skinny wallets”, but enterprises.
The same Gazprom with Rosneft, for example. And there wallets are far from "skinny."
But as a propaganda cliche - it’ll do, people pick it up
keep it up

[Same lech]

Dear The same LEKHA, it is obviously unknown that the main taxpayer is not "people with skinny wallets", but enterprises.

Well, what about enterprises ... and you that payroll taxes and various indirect taxes on purchases and property do not pay? or you don’t notice a rise in prices for various services and goods ... because taxes are also being fought from them ... do you really think ordinary people are so naive and do not understand what is happening?
Compare the income level of different layers of our population and where the difference goes ... the difference is enormous.
GAZPROM and ROSNEFT are generally a separate song ...
RUSSIA’s trade in resources to the detriment of future generations of our country ... in fact, it’s parasitism and nothing else ... instead of focusing on the production of high-tech products, we boast that we are giving resources for beads and green papers worthless ... that in this good except temporary stability in the country ...
what will happen when the resources come to an end ??? ... bad all very bad.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

and you taxes ... don’t you pay? or you don’t notice ... taxes are also being fought with them ... do you really think ordinary people are so naive and do not understand what is happening?

Rushed ... soul over bumps ...

Quote: The same LYOKHA

focus on high-tech products

Which, let me ask? On what basis (the one that was under the Union - partly ... loved, partly hopelessly outdated)? Where is this "high-tech product" (here about UAZ Patrick there was an article ... but what, quite a "high-tech" ... but just do not need anyone, practical) to do? "Work at the warehouse", as in the USSR, will not work - money is needed for the products ...

Quote: The same LYOKHA

... we brag about giving resources for beads and green papers worthless ...

Frantic propaganda, knowledge - zero. This is a diagnosis, dear
I won’t even decipher it - the food is clearly “not on horseback”.

Quote: The same LYOKHA

what will happen when the resources come to an end ???

# wefseumrem

PS: if you accidentally had a couple of unnecessary “green papers” lying around - give me back ... I will find them to use, do not hesitate

[Same lech]

Frantic propaganda, knowledge - zero. This is a diagnosis, dear yes

A typical response to an opponent of a person moving to insult a person ... apparently this is your level of communication with people ...

you are not the first and not the last ... I see no reason to throw beads in front of you ... personal exclusivity has shut your eyes.

[Gardamir]

Rushed ... soul over bumps ..... This is a diagnosis ...

That is, essentially nothing to say?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Gardamir

Rushed ... soul over bumps ..... This is a diagnosis ...

That is, essentially nothing to say?

Gardamir, and what is there essentially to answer?
A million times you and others have already been answered (I read discussions much more than I write in them), chewed and put into my mouth. I say zhezh:

Quote: Golovan Jack

the feed is clearly "off the horse"

All of you ... God's dew, you (not only you personally, but others like you ... The same Lech, as an example) prefer to ignore your opponent’s arguments, and try to bombard with questions ... as a rule, completely military ones.
Well, and how do you then order to communicate constructively with you?

[Gardamir]

constructively

how can you relate to a person who spat in the past by building a wall of sorrow, who built a name center in honor of the destroyer of the country.
now all of Moscow is in traffic jams and rummaged, urgently master the allocated funds for the second time they lay asphalt.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Golovan Jack

... trying to bombard with questions ... usually completely military

Here, by the way, is a living example: to the question

Quote: Golovan Jack

how do you then order to communicate constructively?

You answer

Quote: Gardamir

how can you relate to a person who spat in the past by building a wall of sorrow, who built a name center in honor of the destroyer of the country.
now all of Moscow is in traffic jams and rummaged, urgently master the allocated funds for the second time they lay asphalt.

Words are generally correct ... but absolutely off topic

[Gardamir]

but absolutely off topic

We now have a whole life in the subject. A person who is not responsible, neither for the economy, nor for politics, nor for culture and traditions, but supposedly a genius of foreign policy. Good politics. Poles demolish monuments, Americans constantly run over. Again deprived of the medals of our Olympians.
Today the topic is who is responsible for the disgrace that is being withdrawn with state money?
For example, someone Medvedev, who has no money for the people, allocated $ XNUMX billion to develop trade relations with Africa. Not for trade. but to imitate trade.
After all, everything is much simpler. Is done for the good of the country or not. Films in which the past is undoubtedly clearly not for the good, money to America, what is the use for Russia or for the oligarchs. There is no money for the people, but banks robbing people support.
Well, so that people do not blather and all these Navalny Poklonsky and others are created to distract from true problems.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Gardamir

Gardamir

Clear.
In the elderberry garden, and in Kiev (!!!) the uncle, as my grandmother said.
Cool you are the interlocutor, Gardamir! You will never get bored

[AA17]

Dear, Golovan Jack. "... Which one, let me ask? On what basis (the one that was under the Union - partly ... loved, partly hopelessly outdated)? Where is this" high-tech product "(there was an article about UAZ Patrick ... what , it’s completely "high-tech" ... but just do not need anyone, practically) to do it? "To work at the warehouse", as in the USSR, it will not work - money is needed for the products ... "- (your quote). You ask the right questions. The development of various industries in Russia seems to many lawyers and economists utopian. But this is all doable. To begin with, the government should have competent people with specialized education, with experience in the real sector of industry. These people could develop a program for the development of industry in Russia (I already laid it out. I will repeat it for you personally.)
Oleg Kizim: "... What is the difference between an economic program and the pseudo-economic nonsense that has fed us fairly well over the last quarter century? An economic program cannot be abstract, divorced from the nuances and specifics of each individual country. That is why it is impossible to automatically tighten, for example, the American economic program on Russian realities; the reverse is also true.
An economic program is essentially a directive plan with the rights of bylaws or even legal acts, consisting of tasks being implemented with clear guidelines, performance criteria and output parameters. At the same time, a circle of responsible persons is outlined both by the organizers and by the performers. Accordingly, for each specific goal, it is necessary to calculate the sources of financing, material and infrastructural sufficiency, the availability of technologies that ensure the implementation of the plan and the composition of the personnel reserve. ... When people talk about “developing industry and increasing its competitiveness, modernizing the technological base, building capacity”, etc., one can no longer listen. This is said on the machine when there is nothing to say. These are too abstract phrases applicable to any country at any time, even to Zimbabwe right now.
The sane approach should be as follows. Take for example the mechanical engineering sector with the sub-sector “construction equipment manufacturing”.
Initially, an analysis is made of the entire world market for the production of such equipment. The history of development, the technologies used, science and capital intensity, financial indicators of companies operating in this segment. Of these, formalized criteria of efficiency and competitiveness.
At the second stage, an analysis is made of Russia's place in the segment of “production of construction equipment”. Market share, product range, technological comparison. From this, the degree of lagging behind world leaders is subsequently determined.
At the third stage, benchmarks are formed. What intermediate and output parameters need to be achieved in order to occupy a certain market share by a specific date, compensating for the technological lag? A summary of the necessary financial, material, scientific and technical resources and personnel reserves is being made. Given the complexity of the products and the entire set of necessary components and intermediate products - roughly speaking, where will we get components from and how and on what will we produce all this?
In the fourth step, a summary of the required resources is compared with the current resources. After that, a range of tasks is formalized, the achievement and implementation of which will bridge the gap between the cash and the necessary.
At the fifth stage, a circle of responsible persons is formed on the part of the organizers and performers, and without exception, a measure of responsibility is determined.
At the sixth stage, a system of operational control over the implementation of the plan is created with unconditional punishment for those who deviate from the established list of tasks. A control system for the quality of execution and adjustment of intermediate and output parameters in accordance with economic and political realities are also being created.
The five-year plans worked in a similar way during the time of Stalin, where each economic program had a policy outline with sane criteria ... "

[your1970]

Quote: AA17

Five-year plans worked in a similar way during the time of Stalin, where each economic program had a policy outline with sane criteria ... "

- this is when in Komsomolsk-on-Amur files were cut by thread on the shafts on the threads - because SOMEONE did not bring the dies of the right size ...
“Responsible criteria”, “responsible” ... yeah ..
Your fifth and sixth point in this situation immediately covered with a copper basin .......

[EvilLion]

And it didn’t occur to you that technologies for the release of high-tech products are only sold for green papers? So download further about the beads.

[Gardamir]

and enterprises .... And there the wallets are far from being "skinny."

How about gas prices? or people pick?

[Mestny]

He makes it, and how!
In our country, capitalism. If there is demand, there will be a corresponding price.
Or do you need to do something? What, tell me?
I always ask this question to those who are "for everything good versus everything bad."
Because he said "a", say "b" already.

[forty-eighth]

Quote: Golovan Jack

the main taxpayer is not “people with skinny wallets”, but enterprises.
The same Gazprom with Rosneft, for example. And there wallets are far from "skinny."
But as a propaganda cliche - it’ll do, people pick it up
keep it up

Before making such attacks, you would, dear, first study the structure of the revenue side of budgets for the past years. Personal income tax is the main article of replenishment of the budget!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: forty-eighth

Personal income tax is the main article of replenishment of the budget!

Ahem ... Here, check out the picture:

 Happened out of here

https://ria.ru/infografika/20130912/958932396.htm
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[your1970]

never, PIT was never the main budget item - ALWAYS customs gave 50% or moreand the tax authorities - no more than 25%. And the first blow to the tax authorities was done in 2000, when VAT was transferred to customs when importing goods into the Russian Federation .... The budget immediately increased by 40% ..
Overlay - always with handles to the sides - "but we can not recover, he shows losses and almost bankrupt. Yes, we know that he changed three Lexus in a year, but this is his personal, not his company ...." etc. blah blah ...
The picture confirms this by the way.

[forty-eighth]

with personal income tax got excited, I admit. However, it is quite comparable to the severance tax and is in no way comparable with the corporate income tax. I focus on this data http://info.minfin.ru/kons_doh.php

[Golovan Jack]

Now remember how the landfill began

Quote: The same Lech

And the last question that torments me all this time: I wonder, who will recover the losses?

How who? ... taxpayers of Russia ... only taxpayers of RUSSIA from their skinny pockets and savings, that is, the people ...

There was no talk of sources of filling the budget and their "weight" at all, from the word "completely".
I usually read the entire discussion thread before writing anything in it. Believe - it helps ...

[Vasya Vassin]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Dear The same LYOKHA, obviously, does not know that the main taxpayer is not "people with skinny wallets", but enterprises.
The same Gazprom with Rosneft, for example. And there wallets are far from "skinny."

And for whom should they work in our country, these enterprises, tell me? What should be spent on income from the Russian subsoil?

[your1970]

Quote: Vasya Vassin

Quote: Golovan Jack

Dear The same LYOKHA, obviously, does not know that the main taxpayer is not "people with skinny wallets", but enterprises.
The same Gazprom with Rosneft, for example. And there wallets are far from "skinny."

And for whom should they work in our country, these enterprises, tell me? What should be spent on income from the Russian subsoil?

- and the money is apparently dripping from the ceiling? !!! to teachers / doctors / pensioners ?? !!! military housing? matkapital ?? new medical centers? children nursed with 0,5 kg of weight (there is a child with a palm and weight like kitten !!!!)? science? and further, further, further ...

Where do they all get loot ?? From the nightstand ???

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Vasya Vassin

And for whom should they work in our country, these enterprises, tell me? What should be spent on income from the Russian subsoil?

On parasites and loafers?

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Dear The same LYOKHA, obviously, it is not known that the main taxpayer is not “people with skinny wallets”, but enterprises.

Yes, this is how to look. The most collected tax and the largest share in the budget is VAT. And it is paid by every consumer of goods, services or work. And this is 18% at all stages of the production of goods or services.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Yes, this is how to look

Read above, check out the picture ... informatively, I assure you.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

... every consumer of goods, services or work pays it. And this is 18% ...

About nothing. Without numerical values ​​- nothingI repeat
Enterprises, by the way, also pay VAT, you will not believe, probably

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Read above, check out the picture ... informatively, I assure you.

And what is cognitive? Your picture illustrates what I wrote: 1 place - VAT, 2 - customs duties, 3 - mineral extraction tax.

Quote: Golovan Jack

About nothing. Without numerical values ​​- nothing, I repeat
Enterprises, by the way, also pay VAT, you will not believe, probably

What do you have to do with business? Do you know VAT refund schemes? The deduction reduces the amount of VAT accrued on sale by the amount of VAT that was paid to the supplier when purchasing goods, works, services. That is, if the buyer is also a VAT payer (that is, buys taxable goods or services for use in the production of other goods or services), the seller, when calculating the total amount of his obligations to the budget, has the right to deduct the amount of tax from the amount of tax received from the buyer, which he paid to his supplier for taxable goods, work or services. Thus, this tax is indirect, and its burden ultimately falls not on the merchants, but on the final consumers of goods and services. VAT is an indirect tax! Indirect tax, unlike direct, is carried forward end consumer. As well as excise taxes and customs duties. Which also pays the final consumer. Of course, enterprises and organizations, as well as individual entrepreneurs pay VAT. But they invest it in the cost of products or services sold. That is, money to pay tax is received from consumer! So your passage about enterprises nothing!

[97110]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

.. blood suckers in one word.

Yes you? What ticks? These are successful citizens of a capitalist society.

[Uncle lee]

But in fact - another nonsense

Maybe there are no Masters, or maybe they have lowered the bar so that everything produced is ersatz: Films, books, songs, medicines, food, laws, and much more indigestible!

[dauria]

all produced - ersatz

Right. But that's the thing. Once in the 87th year I had a chance to watch "Kin-Dza-Dza" in a movie theater. You can argue as much as you like, but the masterful film is at the highest level. And two-thirds of the audience left after the first episode. Oops, the Soviet audience with the "high bar" left.
And now the filmmakers have a noose - box office. That "adapt" to the viewer-consumer.
The film is too expensive to be an art. Burn out for long.
And the topic of crafts and paintings is not new. Gogol has a "Portrait" ..... "What a quick brush Chartkov has"

[CONTROL]

Quote: dauria

Once in the 87th year I had a chance to watch "Kin-Dza-Dza" in a movie theater. You can argue as much as you like, but the masterful film is at the highest level. And two-thirds of the audience left after the first episode. Oops, the Soviet audience with the "high bar" left.

The question is - who shoots and how, and - who looks and how ...
Fellini’s film “Orchestra Rehearsal” was shot by him “idle time” between the filming of some other film, in 2-3 weeks ... What happened - look! Not everyone can withstand 1,5 hours of this "tediousness", which does not remove the film from the category of "world masterpiece" ... By the way - more relevant than ever these days!

[your1970]

By the way, I also didn’t immediately like Kin-dza-dza- and now one of my favorite films

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: dauria

And two-thirds of the audience left after the first episode. Oops, the Soviet audience with the "high bar" left.

It’s strange. I do not know a single person from my environment who would not like the film. We made out the quotes: "yellow pants - three times ku", "society without color differentiation of pants, this is a society without a goal, and a society without a goal ..." well, etc.

[CONTROL]

Quote: Uncle Lee

all produced - ersatz: Films, books, songs, medicines, food, laws and much more indigestible!

... - Smoke a lot, Rimeyer, and now tobacco is very often impregnated with rubbish.
“Nonsense is tobacco,” he said with unexpected annoyance. - Here everyone is saturated with rubbish ...

A. and B. Strugatsky "Predatory things of the century"

[Eurodav]

I agree with the author! Below the plinth, the quality of cinema has fallen ... And Teacher ... Send him to his historical homeland, together with his compass ... See the inverted genes began to interfere with him ...

[Basil50]

When, back in the nineties, the US militants * looked at the US militants, they were amazed at the detail and * beautifulness * then the flight of a bullet, then the sweep of his fists, then the passage-span of a car or motorcycle. It was these colorful shots that overshadowed the meaning of the picture, rather wretched.
Today in RUSSIA, imitation of * creative tiligents * by American patterns is imperative. Without this, there is no one there. What the media, what TV, what movie imitation is necessary.
So it is in * Matilda *, the main picture and necessarily an actor from * kin for adults *. The picture and the sparkle are just like beads in front of the Papuans. Bright, colorful, even the music is. Everything to stun the public. Especially such an advertisement.

[rotmistr60]

about a person relatively similar to Nikolai Alexandrovich

And besides, played by a German actor (according to the director, he is very talented and outstanding). Probably for the teacher in his homeland this is not found.

Interestingly, the Teacher will be given an order for such merits, as is now customary with us? Or is it to work out a debt hole?

He probably counted, if not on the order, then at least on a large and preferably a large prize. And unfortunately, we don’t put government money into the debt hole. But in vain.

[antivirus]

I suspect Poklonskaya and Teacher in conspiracy
-
- different "groups" did not diverge from feeding from the cinema and Alexei the Overseer. They will still pull him

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: rotmistr60

And besides, played by a German actor (according to the director, he is very talented and outstanding). Probably for the teacher in his homeland this is not found.

But was Nicholas II not a German? How much% of Slavic blood is in it?

Quote: rotmistr60

He probably counted, if not on the order, then at least on a large and preferably a large prize.

- No guys, I'm not proud.
Without making a distance
So I say: why do I need an order?
I agree to the medal.

[Cxnumx]

and from which side did the author drag salute-7 here? Kina did not like? citizens decided differently (or we refer these citizens to "people hawala", unlike those who did not go to "matilda")?))
The budget is 400 million rubles. Fees 000 000 602 rubles

[Moore]

Apparently the evil generals who were about to bring down (!) The station did not like it.
V.A. Dzhanibekov, by the way, mentioned this, that it was a lie, but he spoke quite positively on the film.
It’s another matter that now if you don’t spit on the past - such as knocking down “Salute”, the shackles of the people in “Time of the First” - you will be an outcast in this bohemian cube, called the “creative intelligentsia”. An example is Yuri Bykov, director of Sleeping. In one day, he turned from an idol of a liberal party to an enemy and a traitor. I must say, realized and repented:
"... People still have to protest and demand justice, otherwise there will be no change, and I betrayed the entire progressive generation that wanted to change something in this country. I’m afraid that after perfect I can no longer be a public figure and object following.. "
Our bohemian garbage dump has yet to determine whether it is sincere repentance, bitter self-irony, or trolling. Watch out, if that, Bykov.

[Gardamir]

Kina did not like?

Yes, because in KEEN all lies.

[Cxnumx]

Quote: Gardamir

Yes, because in KEEN all lies.

directly all? as far as I understand from the interview, the main complaints about how the objects in space behave and with what particular instruments everything was done (he didn’t wave with a sledgehammer, but he turned the key gently), of a technical nature, so to speak. unfortunately it is detailed, with which he disagrees disassembled.
but I can tell you this: any specialist in a certain field either laughs or weeps while looking any thin. a film with his "colleagues." I have a brother, a military doctor: as soon as there is something in the film about doctors and their work (especially the military), that's all, he can’t watch this "crap and bullshit"; I personally always get a crooked smirk (as they say to me), if I see work from my own sphere in the film; grandfather spit on "they fought for their homeland" - he fought wrong.
probably it would be great if the participants in the events could say - the film is absolutely right, right up to the time I twisted the nut. but there are no such films and never will be.

[Gardamir]

grandfather spit

By the way, half of the actors in the film in their youth fought for their homeland.
And it's not about the nuts; the atmosphere of that time was completely killed. Two alkocosmonauts, whipping vodaru, smoking, and the generals dream of them clinging to the station.
Or here's an example, the wife somehow got hooked on the series with a beautiful name. The beginning in Soviet times. Brezhnev died. And after six months, the workers are not given a salary, because there is supposedly no sales and they are solving this problem at the party committee. But all this is a lie. All eighties paid salaries.

[Cxnumx]

Quote: Gardamir

By the way, half of the actors in the film in their youth fought for their homeland.

I know). but grandfather fought wrong. everything was much more ... tough and cruel in his words.
I can’t say about the atmosphere of the film, as well as about salaries, in these years it was still quite shallow. but the film about the not-made-up feat of not-made-up people is definitely good. even if everything is ambiguously well conveyed. because modern teenagers are not interested in watching films of the 70-80s. and here is something.

[97110]

Quote: Gardamir

All eighties paid salaries.

In 1987, the first attempt to link a work plan with a production plan. Inertia was enough for another 5 years. It fell in 1992, under the ecstatic hooting of the labor collectives that received "independence".

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: K0

and from which side the author dragged here "salute-7"

Despite the good picture, the film is frankly weak! Okay, at least without anti-Soviet, as in Time of the First. But with two hysterical astronauts who are constantly hysterical, they find out which of them is alpha and solve all problems hiding from the MCC in the shade. Rave!!! It’s not for nothing that Dzhanibekov answered the question “how do you like the film”?

[Gormenghast]

Not in defense of Poklonskaya - Teacher, give the difference between budget financing and box office! Or shoot for your money!

I am proud of the Russian defense industry, Rosatom, even Gazprom (although it’s relatively ), but if Russian cinema as a whole is in that black abyss , which is known to all, then I will not admire them.

The authors of vomit remakes, all sorts of Eggs, Hitler-kaput, The best films, etc. - these are candidates for logging. Not only because of the embezzlement of public money, but also because of the fooling the audience, turning them into a dumb herd.

[XII legion]

Money laundering - nothing more
The film consists of historical mistakes
No wonder they ganged up on him

[Rurikovich]

Here I agree with Skomorokhov
We degrade-s, slops-s give-out for a high culture, s ... Between nonsense and entertainment and uninteresting truth choose the first ....

[A.V.S.]

The essence of the position of the opponents of "Matilda" is that it represents an act of Jewish-Noviop aggression against Russians in national and national-religious terms, and against the Russian culture-bearing class in national-class terms

[midshipman]

Thank you Roman! I have the honor.

[parusnik]

Moreover, I frankly suspect Poklonskaya and the Teachers in collusion. Now I can’t explain the advertising campaign that Poklonskaya arranged for this movie to anything else.

.. I fully share the author’s suspicions .. I also saw ... I remember the Russian cinematography. He was already in great debt to me, and after watching this film he simply died, taking his debts to the grave ..

[Mestny]

Quote: K0

and from which side did the author drag salute-7 here? Kina did not like? citizens decided differently (or we refer these citizens to "people hawala", unlike those who did not go to "matilda")?))

The author is apparently an adherent of the Goblin Witnesses Sect.
They have only one real movie there - American (surprise!). Russian cinema is poured with brown slurry with such a hellish glow that the monitor on the back side becomes cloudy.
For these, there are only two real Russian films - “28 Panfilovites” and “Gorky”.
The first is a reconstruction work, the second is a black comedy about "people from the hinterland" at a wedding from the point of view of the Moscow creative class.
This is a cult film for them. that’s exactly what they think the real face of the people looks like.
Citizens really decide differently, such as in the case of the film "Stalingrad", but these sectarians certainly do not care - the main thing is not to break the template in your head, and that the Guru would be good and comfortable making money on this. They themselves do not admit that they were fools ...

[Tsoy]

Quote: Mestny

Citizens do decide otherwise, as for example in the case of the film "Stalingrad"

And what have Stalingrad? Bondarchuk just shot on the Hollywood patterns. And the people voted so that the film did not pay off at the box office. Here are those on, huh?

In the Russian Federation they make a good movie, only for some reason it is not sponsored by the Cinema Foundation and is not advertised on all channels as an art by Bondarchuk. The house, or the same Brest fortress.

[EvilLion]

Probably because in the USA they learned to shoot, no matter stupidity or a masterpiece of thought.

[Seraphimamur]

Roman Skomorokhov justifies his surname so fervently he grimaces and clicks in his article about Russian cinema that it becomes clear that he is running out of saliva of envy. It is not clear from what only: it cannot create something like that or it simply eclipses consciousness with the amount of money invested in these films. Yes, there’s so much for him!

[bober1982]

Metropolitan of Vladivostok and Primorsky Benjamin thanked N.V. Poklonskaya for her fight against “Matilda”:
This film ...... deeply offended the feelings of believers. But you, as a state person who is honestly performing his state duties, stood up to protect the feelings of believers, to defend the history of Russia from scolding ....

[zoolu350]

I watched the film, but did not understand where there is an insult to the feelings of adherents of the orthodox branch of the Jewish Christian sect? In my opinion, a typical almost popular mess about the royal family, only a little bitchiness of the royal women was shown (in real life it was even worse). Nyasha in collusion with Teacher, definitely!

[sergo1914]

I do not understand the tantrum that has arisen. Our cinema ... is different. There are good movies and TV shows. Yes - not very good. But here, as they say, the taste and color ... to whom and Lyashko - the bride.
Matilda has not watched yet. But be sure to look. Not at the cinema. "Stalingrad", "And the dawns ...", "28 Panfilovites" liked. If you do not cling to the little things. I don’t understand people who are looking at the screen in a magnifying glass and yelling - they incorrectly painted the tank, there should be two more tracks in the caterpillar. Or that in 1941 there were thirty-four with 85 fluff. So what? Real girls from "Zorya ..." would be cut out instantly. How many technical inaccuracies are there in “Liberation” and in the simply brilliant film “Only Old Men Go to Battle”? So what? I’m revising them anyway. And "Chapaeva" will be 07.11. to revise. So what, what is agitation? Butterfly !!! Is Bonivour's Heart Historically Accurate? And what an emotional charge. And recently, good people have digitized the trilogy about Maxim.
Do not water everything with bad substances and hysteria. Haters Fedi Bondarchuk suggest watching "Two Days" by Avdotya Smirnova (yes, the one that is Chubais). Good, kind, sincere film.
And Inhabited Island is a good movie. If someone else had swung at Pavlysh with the "Village" and "The Last War" ... With a good budget. I'm waiting.

[EvilLion]

In 2-17, shoot T-34-85, and clearly computer in the events of the 1941-th year, this, you know, is not a blunder, this is an attitude to work, such as "you go all for good."

[your1970]

Quote: EvilLion

In 2-17, shoot T-34-85, and clearly computer in the events of the 1941-th year, this, you know, is not a blunder, this is an attitude to work, such as "you go all for good."

- in "They Fought for the Homeland" behind the Shukshin passes "Meteor" hydrofoil ....
I watched this movie many times - BUT NEVER (!!!) I didn’t notice this, the actor’s game is so strong in this episode. I accidentally saw in a selection of kinolapov.
If such the blooper is more than covered by the actor’s game - does it make sense to find fault with the wrong cannon in the T-34? For example, I can only recognize the difference by the length of the barrel and the larger tower — although I once read the Tank Museum in TM, no more .. There might have been some reasons, of a technical, so to speak, plan. But this does not affect the general perception of the film ...
Or, like in the Defense of Moscow, a general comes to Zhukov. And then the actor said - "Ulyanov looked up at me and cold sweat struck me - Zhukov looked at me !!! I stretched out at attention and started the report. They took off with one take!" . And this despite the fact that Zhukov and Ulyanov are completely different faces, a completely different type. Just the energy of Ulyanov in this role so successfully fell on the image of Zhukov.

I’ll even say more: to find fault at such a level is like to consider the “White Tiger” a film about the Second World War, and he NOT about WWII and WWII in general - he’s talking about War in general (a terrible, bloody WAR as a symbol of the most terrible thing that man came up with), about the battle between Good and Evil .... But the people shout, there wasn’t such a thing in the war, all lies ..
“The old one, somehow patched by Ivan Ivanovich Pz 35 (t) (however, like any other tank) had an amazing flair. But political officers, headquarters,“ special policemen ”, anti-aircraft guns, self-propelled guns and desperate negotiations of“ SMERSH ”in English with that side , the driver wasn’t busy right now - the monster was already waiting for Milovets - the familiar 200-millimeter sides were turning white, the tracks were covered with dirt and mud, the monocular eye was slowly groping for the target. No doubt, he was cleaned by them. However, the tankman, who was swirling in fire and smoke, was not dressed in stain, not over the size, his overcoat, all hung with medals and orders, had no doubt - this outdated, touching trolley would be enough for a hit. even a 37-millimeter baby.
- "Click, Ivan! - rumbled heavenly music. “Push! ... He’s still here!” "

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: your1970

And this despite the fact that Zhukov and Ulyanov are completely different faces, a completely different type.

So different?
You compare Mueller with the Armored ...

[EvilLion]

“Meteor” in “They Fought for their Homeland” an accident that fell into the frame, just like in “Gladiator” there is a moment when one of the spectators in the Coliseum rearranges the bottle in the background.

And now, not to understand how a common tank or plane looked at one time or another, it means to demonstrate that you don’t care at all.

The “White Tiger” is typical *** about how the understanding of the Second World War in the brain has already disappeared, and all garbage comes out, including with mysticism. Well, "about the war in general," so the Japanese are filming it now. Because they were given a hat and explained that they were wrong, but we have nothing to repent of, and the War is not just a war, it is a war that has moved to a fundamentally level that Simonov showed very well in "Self-propelled gun No. 120" , from the individual terrible routine of war to the System of annihilation.

[your1970]

Yes, not repentance at all (especially ours !!!) in the "White Tiger" - but the BATTLE OF GOOD WITH EVIL !!!!
Ilya Muromets fights with Kashchei the Immortal (and the Tiger is bred precisely as the Immortal, i.e. DEAD !!!).

In addition, you can blame Bondarchua and others like them for blunders / stupidity in THEIR war films - but blaming the authors of Panfilov’s (who in general didn’t have a budget and accordingly did not have frantic cuts of that budget) is strange enough. It’s possible that the guys simply didn’t have enough money or technically could not be redone - at least the Gadzhins know exactly WHAT TANKS WERE THEN

[Anton Yu]

I can not understand the cries of Poklonskaya and various obscurantists about the mistress of Nicholas 2. All the kings, kings, emperors had mistresses. And the eastern rulers and harems, which was the norm. Unless, of course, someone is trying to prove that Nikolai was “blue,” then he definitely did not need a lover.

[CONTROL]

Quote: Anton Yu

All kings, kings, emperors had mistresses. And the eastern rulers and harems, which was the norm. .

Iranian Shah Nasser Qajar had a harem ... there is a photo - google! natural beauty"!
(although, they say, in the photo are male actors of the Iranian theater? ...)

[unignm]

how much does this relate to the theme of the site?

[Anton Yu]

What side does Matilda feel about Military Review?

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Anton Yu

What side does Matilda feel about Military Review?

Her lover was the Supreme Commander ...

[Andrey VOV]

Well, I can’t completely agree with the article of the respected author, especially with the thesis that the criterion for the quality of the film is prizes in Cannes and in Hollywood ... oh, not a fact, oh not a fact, that it measured.
Next, the budgets for shooting films ... sorry, where does Putin ???
Well, it seems to me that the state should not give money for cinema, if the same author refers us to Cannes and Hollywood, then there isn’t a penny in the "their" cinema. Look for sponsors, gentlemen, filmmakers, look for other places ... but don’t the state ... collect the money at the box office, beat off the honor and praise, no, sorry .. mass cinema is a business, but business you know what ...

[dimitris]

Each film has its own critic and amateur. If recently all Russian cinema is a big g ... so take and write a "killer" script instead of devastating articles.

[vvp2412]

I do not understand those people who went to see this garbage bin ?!
Wasn’t it so clear that mutoten?
And our good films are ... There are few of them only ....
I really liked the film Duelist (or whatever it is, with Mashkov the villain).
28 Panfilov’s shot well! True more on donations!

[Mestny]

So they have very few good films. Under capitalism, in general, the good for which the viewer bears money.
Donations from the "Panfilov" by the way are far from a large part. And about the correct location of the rivets for most viewers, it’s evenly divided. They are more driven into bewilderment by disguised reenactors instead of actors.

[CONTROL]

Quote: vvp2412

I really liked the film Duelist (or whatever it is, with Mashkov the villain).

"Duelist"? This is where St. Petersburg - one of the most beautiful and brilliant capitals of the world at that time - is represented by a cesspool?
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There was no practice of “hired brokers” in Russia - this is not the West, the mentality is different! Send a killer - yes ...

[skullcap]

Quote: Finches

I cannot judge the artistic value of the painting, but I am still not inclined to dramatize the situation so much

I will not watch the movie:
1. Decent people do not dig into someone else's underwear.
2. It is doubly vile to dig into the underwear of dead people.
3. This is even more disgusting because Nicholas II was killed together with the whole family, including children.
4. This, I agree with the author, and meanly. Because the murder was ritual.
5. This film is undoubtedly a continuation of this ritual murder, not only physical, but moral. The director of the film was not in the Romanov family, he could not know anything for certain, so all the performances are the fruits of his inventions. And these inventions are unambiguously denigrating.

[Seal]

2. It is doubly vile to dig into the underwear of dead people.

Alas, 99% of historical films are precisely the digging in the underwear of dead people. Even the film "War and Peace" based on the book of L. Tolstoy.

[EvilLion]

There will not be any cinema in Russia until the generation of 80-90's dies, or retires. His brains are now crippled so much that now, in principle, nothing can be done, even if they force him to shoot something that is suitable and truthful. It is simply a part of society, a sick society that is still far from a cure.

[Irbenwolf]

No need to drive to the 80th generation, for the most part normal people. And they also fall into a stupor from all that is happening in culture.

They were supplied with the main "firmware" back in the USSR. Sometimes of course it crashes, the software has not been supported for 27 years, but in general the principles of functioning are normal.

[EvilLion]

And when did perestroika begin?

[Irbenwolf]

Officially in 1985 ...

[Gardamir]

Officially in 1985 ...

No, at first there was an acceleration in 1987, and a little later perestroika.

[Irbenwolf]

Well then, one cannot help but recall about such a phenomenon as “Glasnost” .... but it all started with “Acceleration” in 1985 ...

[Cat Marquis]

And why did the author of the article "wound up"? What is such a "meaning" he was going to look for in a modern fiction movie in which visualization ("beautiful picture") has long been the main thing? Does he want something like "Cranes are flying," "Checks on the road," etc.? Alas, those times are gone, and the viewer is no longer the same “move” and “give special effects” .... He would have criticized Transformers for the lack of meaning ... But “Matilda” is a completely normal, beautiful film about "feelings" and without politics and "gebni" women just like him. My family watched it with pleasure.

[Irbenwolf]

Is this a new trend like this - Russians wiping out for any reason and without it?

Are the drunken passengers of the planes who are making brawls not hysteria or Russian? Deputies and officials do not become Russian after the election?

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: IrbenWolf

Are the drunken passengers of the planes who are making brawls not hysteria or Russian?

Drunk, flying from Turkey, which only yesterday "from rags to riches" is not a people. And there are isolated cases ...

Quote: IrbenWolf

Deputies and officials do not become Russian after the election?

You probably about the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada ...

[CONTROL]

I will not touch the film, enough has been said about it, my opinion is an absolute dummy that does not carry anything in itself. Neither historical truth nor plot.

Divert attention from real issues about that time. And they - and the answers to them - are interesting today:
1. What were the pace of development of the Russian Empire, the economic and political situation on the world stage in the late 19th and early 20th centuries?
2. What was the quality of governing the country during the reign of Nicholas II? What were the objective and subjective reasons for the involvement of the Russian Empire in the First World War?
3. How did the Church respond to the abdication of Nicholas II and the rise to power of the Provisional Government, headed by the Freemason Kerensky?
4. What role did the monarchists, Marxists, Masonic organizations, Bolsheviks, adherents of the February liberal-bourgeois revolution, and other forces involved play in the events of the October Revolution and civil war? Which of them did the people support?
5. What mistakes in public administration led to the First World War and subsequent events, and who is responsible for millions of victims and the fall of the autocracy?
Instead - a vulgar plotless movie! Modern, Russian ... In the country where the film "The Cranes Are Flying", "The Fate of a Man", "Officers" was shot, the best - according to the British themselves - "Sherlock Holmes", "Watch Out for the Car" ... - and: "Viking "," Salute-7 "," Matilda "...
... it’s better to watch "The Meaning of Life by Monty Python" ...

[Dmitry 2246]

Inadequate grumbling on a military site. It's disgusting. Especially the counting of money. Reminds neighbors with a search for "justice."

[lev54]

And why not, if your neighbors are morally fallen individuals who have lost their conscience and honor and make your life a real hell?

[NEXUS]

Guys, I have long wanted to ask, Why are the Disney, Paramount and Columbia, etc. screensavers on the screensavers of our latest films and cartoons? Who is in the subject, enlighten the dark.

[CONTROL]

Quote: NEXUS

Guys, I have long wanted to ask, Why are the Disney, Paramount and Columbia, etc. screensavers on the screensavers of our latest films and cartoons? Who is in the subject, enlighten the dark.

Installation, special effects and "gluing according to Stanislavsky" are carried out on equipment purchased from "them" and according to their technologies ... they defended the right to their screensavers!
For example, on television - the rating of television programs is determined entirely by "foreign agents"; a rating agency with headquarters in London ... the general one, headquarters, is behind the front line ... and the operational one is in Moscow !!! Hybrid won, try it! ...
Now it’s clear where these ratings come from. "House-2" и "Let's all get married" or "Let them come"?...

[Tsoy]

Quote: NEXUS

Guys, I have long wanted to ask, Why are the Disney, Paramount and Columbia, etc. screensavers on the screensavers of our latest films and cartoons? Who is in the subject, enlighten the dark.

Foreign rental takes a foreign company, plus special effects and installation. It turns out joint production in essence.

[1536]

Well, the level of cinema in the world has generally fallen. They shoot either crushing action movies for one or two, or something pervertedly flawed so that the viewer becomes disgusted by their own existence in this world. Either the Kremlin will be blown up, then the White House will be destroyed, then they will put someone in a vat with shit, and the Janissary with the scimitar is bored in another film. Conclusion: do not like it - do not look. And then, we shoot a sufficient number of other films that have not received the attention of members of the State Duma or "venerable" directors.
And about waste, etc. - This is a matter of the prosecutor's office and criminal chronicle.

[CONTROL]

THE MAIN GOAL OF THE MATILDA INFORMATION OPERATION:
- The oblivion of the events of the beginning of the 20th century (in particular, the events of 1917) by artificially shifting the emphasis of the discussion of the era of the reign of Nicholas II from vital historical issues to the personal relations of the tsar with the ballerina M. Kshesinskaya.
Achievement technology:
- Creation of the provocative film "Matilda" and the constant maintenance of various emotional issues caused by him emotional stress around the subject of the personal life of the king; blocking any attempts to resolve a conflict situation.

https://www.razumei.ru/vkadre/20171101/3749
The scandal lasts almost a year, and is not going to subside!

[bober1982]

Quote: CONTROL

and not going to calm down!

Because this is not the film "Matilda", but the operation "Matilda", well-planned and thought out, the authenticity of the events and the artistic value of the film is not needed by anyone.

[free]

Familiar all actresses Judas!

[iouris]

An attempt to make a chaste porn movie as a visual aid on the history of the Fatherland.

[lev54]

Frankly, tired of empty crafts on the cinema screen for our money with you! It is time to introduce, if not censorship, then the state cultural council, which gives the right with its decision to produce, finance and shoot films. Assessing primarily the objectivity, cultural value and the possibility of promoting a healthy lifestyle, patriotic education and the growing needs of the state (we need images of heroes, pilots, engineers, teachers and doctors, and not the private life of fat cats, prostitutes and others like them)

[lev54]

In essence, the low base and bias of the produced expensive movie fakes is explainable. He orders a separate section of our long-suffering society for viewing and gratification, pays for and promotes the life that is relevant, objective and in demand for them.

[Finches]

AUL,
I don’t quite agree with your arguments! Everything can be done right up to public discussion ...

[Anchonsha]

Well, there aren’t just normal people in the cinema who would show how the country gets out of the crap where the Communists stealing, corrupted and rotten, and then headless talkers like Gorbach and the drunkard Yeltsin took us. and then the same thieving former Komsomol leaders-farcers who learned how to easily cut rubles, most of them Jews, who had close ties with liberals and criminals. These same liberalists are now sitting in directors, screenwriters, leading us away from the truth. honesty in their gloomy with wretched depravity

[Altona]

I have long been unsubscribed on Twitter about this movie, my comments mainly come down to the question "How long?" and a lot of obscene words describing the creators and participants of this action. Basically, I denied them the right to be called heterosexuals, however, they are not masters of cinema either. If only we could learn from the great Sergey Eisenstein how epic and “chronicle” it is necessary to shoot an art movie so that the viewer is imbued.

[valerei]

Skororokhov wrote everything correctly. And what, in fact, happened beyond the outstanding? What movie was shot according to the most rotten Hollywood canons? What money wasted, with passing theft? But, after all, there is also a moral and ethical component of this "product" of our, Russian, cinema - this is another spitting on Russia, and for Russian money, and by Russian performers. This completely disappears from the comments on the site. Our filmmakers (not all, though) have long sold their souls to the devil, called "Hollywood." In the internet, the media has long been talking about cinema as an art, but only as a way to cut the dough. Our filmmakers absolutely do not care that this movie carrier will be deposited in the heads of our youth, just to cut the dough! Our filmmakers, with their greed and lack of even a hint of patriotism, are actively involved in the moral decay of our youth. Apparently, Medinsky also does not care deeply for this. Now everyone is fixated on Matilda, but there is a movie much worse and more harmful for Russia - this is Stalingrad! For this film, the creators deserved it only one thing: a slammer, 10-15 years old, as for malicious slander against the Red Army for the exploits of the defenders of Stalingrad. But our filmmakers prosper and successfully continue the moral decay of our youth. With this I congratulate the Ministry of "Culture" of Russia.

[xtur]

> Moreover, I openly suspect Poklonskaya and the Teacher of collusion. Now I cannot explain the advertising campaign that Poklonskaya arranged for this film in any other way.

I like articles by Roman for his sobriety and patriotism. But it’s quite clear that he is an atheist. Otherwise, he would have understood the relationship of believers to any film about the monarchy in the Republic of Ingushetia. The monarchy is legitimized by religion, and the monarch since the time of Emperor Constantine, the god-given leader of the country, not only responsible for the country entrusted to him, but also being its model, image, likeness.
This kind of connection in magic is called sympathetic - a blow to the emperor is a blow to the country (this kind of connection in Christianity is justified differently, and it is not a kind of magic, but for simplicity, and when used existing scientific language, everything looks that way). Religious thinking does not allow any principle of separation of powers for the autocrat. An autocrat may appoint a prime minister, judges, and allow parliament to be formed through elections, but by itself it is higher than the principle of separation of powers
Here the model of power in Iran in this sense ideally matches this model. So try to criticize the Khamenei in Iran and immediately understand the difference between criticism of the Iranian president and criticism of Khamenei.
It’s about criticizing a father or mother - it’s possible, but with respect and humility. Frivolous and low feature films are simply not permissible

So Poklonskaya in her complete rejection of this film is absolutely right, and deserves absolute respect. Her spiritual position is absolutely accurate and correct, and the fact that she placed spiritual principles above momentary political principles such as freedom of creativity and expression only proves her masculinity and the accuracy of her position
I want to note that Orthodox thinking does not require a monarchy, but the absolute fullness of power for a top-level leader, the president, under certain conditions, may well meet these criteria.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: xtur

The monarchy is legitimized by religion,

In fact, religion was subordinated to the monarchy through the Synod, like another ministry. Until 1917, when the Patriarch again appeared ...

[Zloy]

Yes, okay, “Salute-7” and “First Time” do not touch. Not a masterpiece, of course, but what do you want from modern Russian cinema. But, in principle, the right films about the right people. But of course, not without stamps and artistic exaggerations a la Hollywood. But I watched both films with pleasure. Transformers -guano pile of special effects without any plot. In Hollywood, too, by the way, the level has fallen dramatically. James Cameron on all topics is not enough ..
Now, according to Matilda, the film is an enemy, obviously wrecking, aiming to fill the history of Russia like Viking with a litter. I agree with Poklonskaya. No need to pour mud on history. The whole HISTORY of Russia is not only the Soviet period and the Soviet period do not have to pour mud. This already got chernukha, filthy on the history of Russia. And people by the way correctly vote - see box office. To the teacher - ten and to send on a felling.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Zloy

Do not touch the "time of the first." Not a masterpiece, of course, but what do you want from modern Russian cinema. But, in principle, the right films about the right people.

The film, through, false and people are not shown correctly. In fact, it’s a praise of Leonov to himself. He even removed Gagarin from the story. And he led the flight from the MCC. This "right" person told stories about a dispossessed father, judged by the chairman of the collective farm, accountant and livestock specialist And then he bragged about how he dispossessed the “red directors” in the 90s working for Alfa Group ...

[cedar]

Quote from rudolf

And where is Matilda and the Military Review here?

And besides ...
"... Despite the Russian-French alliance, the German Krupp regularly supplied his best samples to Russia, where they were refused. The great role was played by the Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich, who led Russian artillery until 1917. The prince and his mistress Matilda Kshesinskaya received large bribes and precious gifts from French firms and defense orders.
For example, in 1906, the Main Artillery Directorate announced a competition for the development of a heavy gun for the Russian army. Three local factories were invited to participate in the competition - Obukhov, Putilovsky and Perm; English - Vickers and Armstrong; German - Krupp and Erhardt; Austro-Hungarian - “Skoda”; Swedish - Bofors; French - Saint-Chamonix and Schneider.
The Krupp gun could be carried in an inseparable position. Which positively affected his mobility. The Schneider gun could only be transported unassembled.
The Krupp gun passed through obstacles (logs, rails) without comment, the Schneider gun received three serious breakdowns at once and was sent for repair.
At the same time, the commission’s conclusion was a mockery of common sense: it said that both systems were supposedly equal, but it was recommended to accept the Schneider’s cannon, since it was lighter. Then the commission proposed to make changes to the Schneider system, increasing its weight by 250 kg.
As a result, the Schneider serial gun weighed more than the Krupp gun. Serial production of guns was organized at the Putilov plant at the request of the Schneider company. This is explained simply: its shareholder was ballerina Matilda Kshesinskaya, lover of Sergei Mikhailovich, and earlier of Nicholas II. She received, in modern terms, kickbacks for winning tenders and the exclusive placement of orders. "

I will not chew. Somehow yourself. From the Teacher to demand continuation of "Matilda-2", about the reverse side of this werewolf in pointe shoes ...
Skomorokhov, we already began to forget this liberal opus, and you warmed us up.
What are you in collusion with Poklonskaya and Teacher ..?

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: cedar

German Krupp regularly supplied his best samples to Russia, where they were abandoned.

And Krupp could not give a rollback?

[Vard]

Well, they ... these always have everything as people don’t ... and the music ... already their ears fade ... and films ... no comment ... and pictures ... a black square ...

[akm8226]

Everything is decided very simply - the whole movie is self-supporting. And the point. I didn’t make a film for people to watch - it flew into the pipe. Did - in the plus of the shark, both moral and material. That’s all.

[your1970]

Quote: akm8226

Everything is decided very simply - the whole movie is self-supporting. And the point. I didn’t make a film for people to watch - it flew into the pipe. Did - in the plus of the shark, both moral and material. That’s all.

-easy: remove naked aunts in the chimney of the Tower, bat-laden, and practicing with the shadow of King Lear. And in between (or in the crotch) you talk about politics, women and the army - with a touch of black humor ... You can add Brezhnev as a cook in the canteen of the metallurgical plant or Karlson, the police officer for particularly difficult (and taking bribes from coke jam), or Pushkin -killed Dantes and hiding from killers hired by Natalie, or Hugo Chavez in the retinue of Emelka Pugachev ...
Z.Y. However, for more profitable scenario - you need to roll a gram of 300-500 vodka. On a sober head, something I have a little flight of fancy ....

Z.Z.Z. there are doubts - what people will go and bring babosy? I don’t have - Roman went the same way, although he didn’t spit - it won’t work ...
With moral advantages, that's just the problem

[akm8226]

It happened before. In the 90s. And a lot of naked boobs helped? Once looked, two looked - and that’s it. The same with the militants - how much can you watch the same thing, without a shadow of thought and plot? The same option with this “movie” - you won’t cut either dough or Oscar you won’t deserve it, it’s all wasted; And the result is negative.

[your1970]

Quote: akm8226

It happened before. In the 90s. And a lot of naked boobs helped? Once looked, two looked - and that’s it. The same with the militants - how much can you watch the same thing, without a shadow of thought and plot? The same option with this “movie” - you won’t cut either dough or Oscar you won’t deserve it, it’s all wasted; And the result is negative.

-list of militants / porn / other Hollywood with a bunch of cash dough (without a shadow of thought and plot !!!!) see for yourself ????

[Ace Tambourine]

Oh .... even with my especially violent imagination, it didn’t even occur to me ... !!! Can I steal a plot and remove masterpieces on state babes? I will share the word!

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: akm8226

Everything is decided very simply - the whole movie is self-supporting. And the point. I didn’t make a film for people to watch - it flew into the pipe. Did - in the plus of the shark, both moral and material. That’s all.

What do you think more people will go to: to the theater or the booth in the square to look at farting Petrushka?

[Ace Tambourine]

Well, if Petrushka will support to the beat. She didn’t die out, then, perhaps, I’ll go ...

[Drlivsi]

Another trolling. In the words of Kuzma Prutkov: "See the root." Maybe it’s worth considering how the Germanized aristocracy decayed from the time of Catherine then decomposed, as the modern Anglo-Saxon youth of the Russian nouveau riches is now decomposing the country. And what did YOU want to see Mr. Skomorokhov? Although, "whatever you call a boat, it’ll float," is about a pseudonym.

[myobius59]

Another "Tsar’s bride drew." I won’t say anything about the film, I didn’t watch it and I’m not going to, but the author’s fierce indignation that his beloved Nikolai the Last was not portrayed so much, ridiculed and upset. Well, is it that a person who entered the war with a country with which we had excellent relations, moreover, was in their right mind in their family line, even related ones? Was he all right with his head? A man, (we don’t swear) a country that brought it to the point that even HIS GENERALS demanded his abdication, was in his mind? After all, it was HIS APPROACH that overthrew him from the throne. But the Bolsheviks came later. Having brought the country before the fratricidal war.
But there was a great opportunity to maintain neutrality in that war. AND THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY REVOLUTION.
Yes, history does not have a subjunctive mood, but you need to think a bit before writing any nonsense, but the author, it seems, like Nikolai the Last, has only sawdust.
And the fact that MILLIONS of men died and became invalids in that UNNECESSARY WAR, and MILLIONS of women lost their husbands, and children became orphans, is also "the work of the Lord." This is so according to Poklonskaya, and the author reduces it to this.
Yes, let the devils in the other world gut on the drum, this Nikolai the Bloody. And the author, let him go to Syria, or not, even closer, to the DPR and LPR, and talk to those people whom the war has affected. .Maybe something in his head and clicks, or brightens.

[Radical]

Interestingly, the Master will be given an order for such merit, as it is now accepted here?

[Dedall]

your1970,
Incidentally, in terms of profitability, Soviet cinema was in third place among all sources of the budget. For some reason, cartoons were especially profitable. And our current doomists only managed to ban the show "Well, wait a minute!" it would be better if Mickey and Mouse were banned - there are more scenes of violence.

[seacap]

And what was expected when all spheres of our life are permeated with 1 goal and 1 desire — thirst for profit, at all costs, all methods are good? When a war of annihilation is being waged against our country and people, systematic, cynical of total eradication. Our conductors of culture in the masses (with the exception of a small number of people of old school and education) who self-proclaimed themselves to be an elite, apprentices of art who were nearby, therefore also considering themselves as such, all kinds of so-called artists and especially multi-station artists and singing under plywood and dancing, and to film and there’s a lot more, no problem, our TV, stage (in general, a separate song), all this is a bunch of liberal sense, without creating a single significant masterpiece, going crazy with so much money for no reason, destroying them culture and traditions of our people, arrogantly despising him - I think the most immoral, the most uneducated and the most non-patriotic part of our society. What can create, what a masterpiece, a person, with your permission, who was a senior high school graduate, in the best case, he was listed in a drama school for his daddy’s money and his patronage, classes in which were held in taverns and parties, who did not know either literature or psychology, etc. stories that are difficult to speak in their native language. Even long ago, our enemies, setting goals to destroy us, said that only themselves can defeat and destroy Russians (in the broadest sense of our country), for this their children should be deprived of education and training, history and replace Orthodox values ​​with yours in culture, which our so-called artists and the government are doing successfully.

[Vov_van]

Poklonskaya can be understood. In the wake of the annexation of Crimea, she gained fame for her activities, by the way, absolutely fake. Liked. And they forgot about her! Well, who is she? A parliamentary screen for a certain pile of oligarchs who put her in the Duma. Do what they say. And that’s it! And the fame is pretty good! Where to get it? And here is Teacher (tell me, what does this ........ have good from his work?). Well, and harnessed. And what? Firstly, it’s safe. Secondly, although it is not visible, barking and stink are far away. And then we all fit in .... A girl and zakayfavala! We are waiting for the next series of diarrhea. Our good, I'm sorry for swearing, cinema, still a lot

[kig]

how much can be sucked out of thin air by watching just one film.

[SCHWERIN]

Everyone is terribly excited about “Matilda”, they criticize “Salyut 7”. I didn’t watch the first one and I don’t want to watch it. I liked the second one. I watched it in 3D and, in my opinion, they caught up with Hollywood in quality.
On TopWar, the majority of people are mature, brought up during the Soviet era. That is why there is aversion to many films of the new era. In those days, unlike today, the souls of people were for the most part pure and not vulgarized by the spirit of consumer society. Now time goes faster and the main value is money. And they are very necessary. Today's viewer will most likely not understand Raskolnikov's soul-searching, who killed an old woman for money. A movie should be like a hamburger - eat it and forget it.
I watched Salute in one breath, the film is very dynamic. And this is not a CHRONICLE, but a feature film. Well, they wanted to shoot it down. Or maybe there were such proposals. And they didn’t inform the cosmonauts and operators? May be? Why not? I noticed (glimpsily) the torment with the protective housing of the orientation system. I thought, what couldn’t be cut off by welding?
"Matilda" is another matter. And on this I agree with N. Poklonskaya. Please note that almost all of our rulers are shown in films in a not very attractive way. Well, don’t they touch Stalin and Peter I. Although the crests made a dirty film about Peter and B. Stupka played there - a very good artist. But these are the first people of our state and “joking” at them they are “joking” at the country and us. Kings are the quintessence of society. As they are, so are we. Pathetic, lustful, treacherous, etc. The personality of Nicholas II was presented by the victors of the system after 17 in an unsightly light. Much has been written about him. Let's leave that to the historians. But under Nicholas II there were no wars on our land. The German fleet tried to approach St. Petersburg, but ran into minefields, was attacked by the Russian Fleet and left. Russia did not lose millions of people....
And further. There is no need to make a cult out of the artistic class. Yes, in Soviet times these were STARS. They were created. Power and spectators. Now many of them are concerned with generating income. Migrating from series to series, no time to get into character, fell out of the frame - disappeared. This is especially visible on the stage, when overripe ladies go to great lengths to stay afloat and become pathetic.

[Ace Tambourine]

Well, you'll rewatch Armageddon again...
The effects are amazing... Especially open fire in outer space on an asteroid... So for whom are the effects - for the suckers watching, or from the suckers creating, for the suckers watching?

[Ace Tambourine]

Or, like, what if I had a blast with the Moon, then everything else is snot?

[Ace Tambourine]

Well, yes... spend a little money, fly into orbit, and try to light a cigarette with a lighter...

[Reklastik]

I understand that this "... is not a CHRONICLE, but a feature film." But somehow the director’s avoidance of technical details is always striking, and without them there is somehow nothing for the head to cling to: the problem is in the technology, not in the people. Dzhanibekov responded ambiguously to the film: http://www.yaplakal.com/forum7/topic1675979.html

[stopkran]

The film is as empty as the diaries of Nicholas 2. According to the script, it is something like “Dom-2” with the participation of the Tsar.

[Ace Tambourine]

Well, I don’t know... I read all the commenters... I agree with many... The last time I watched it was in the cinema Night Shame... I don’t remember the year...... but...nom...Like everything , that the author, whatever his name is... Well, not the Strugatskys... And even if they were the Strugatskys, then damn it, they were filmed by the same Teachers...
That’s why Soveysky, namely Soveysky, and not Russian or Soviet, I don’t watch and won’t watch since the beginning of the 2000s... Zhmurki, and then... they’re worth something...

[23rus]

The film is wonderful! I liked it very much, I recommend it to everyone.

[fif21]

Tastes could not be discussed. Calculating losses or profits is the concern of the distributors. I liked the film. The personal opinion of Mrs. Poklonskaya is her personal opinion, but the methods of defending it make me feel annoyed (witch hunt again?) And who gave the money for the film “Demon of the Revolution”? Or is someone’s goal to deprive Russian cinema of state funding? Long live Hollywood!?

[Zheleznostop]

After the confrontations with the citadels, it took me a long time to come to my senses, and thank God my veteran grandfathers did not live to see these vysers. And then they filmed feces, and again for our money. It's called that, comrades. They live with us and e..t.

[23rus]

This is called surviving, like VAZ, like aircraft manufacturing, like all light and heavy industry... The country, which had fallen below the plinth back in the 60s, decided to scatter in order to recover and come to its senses.

[OTK55]

I’m cool with Nikolai-2... but allocate budget money for what I’ve lived... This presupposes...

[Victorio]

the author’s personal opinion in the form of a set of proposals, no specifics

[seacap]

What else can you expect when the education and upbringing system is destroyed? When everything and everyone is permeated with caste, nepotism and cronyism, thirst for profit with complete incompetence, at best, and at worst, direct and deliberate distortion of history and substitution of values, which is one of many ways of waging war against our people. When this entire part of the population with the same education, the most immoral, the most uneducated, with fanatical blind worship of idols and the dream of paradise overseas, with contempt for their country and people, where they let their wives go in circles and sink below the plinth in drunkenness and drugs. They still consider themselves celestials, personally rewarding themselves and each other with various titles and prizes, all these clown princesses, princes, queens of this garbage dump produce only scandals, dirt and stench, poisoning the minds and feelings of a significant part our long-suffering people, especially the youth.

[solovald]

I haven’t watched “Matilda” or “Salyut-7”, so I can’t say anything about them. But I decided to watch “Hero” on TV... I couldn’t handle it, so I turned off the box. I agree with the author of the top - Russian cinema, if not dead, is not yet born.