Deportation of naked Germans from Czechoslovakia

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In recent decades, the theme “Soviet soldiers raped one hundred million German women” has become so popular that it is even inconvenient to ask how these Red Army men had enough time and effort with such a tense sexual schedule also to take Berlin. And the description of the Soviet deportations of the forties of the last century has long become a familiar propaganda tool.



One of the most zealous denunciators of deportations in the USSR is the Czechs. At the same time, they very much don’t like to remember how they deported themselves. In the 1938-1939, Czechoslovakia surrendered without a fight was dismembered, the Czech Republic became a protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. Throughout the Second World War, the Czech people worked hard on making weapons for the nazi army. The Czechs made airplanes, armored vehicles, small arms, ammunition with national thoroughness. No one ever tried to count how many deaths of the Red Army and Western Allies were made by skilled Czech hands.

A small part of the Czechs of military age fought together with the Red Army and the allies, but the overwhelming majority regularly worked for Hitler. Even the British-organized liquidation of Hitler's viceroy Heydrich in 1942 and the subsequent mass executions of the inhabitants of the village of Lidice could not destroy the touching symbiosis of Czech gunsmiths and the Wehrmacht.

And after the defeat of Germany, the Czechs felt like a "victorious people" and engaged in ethnic cleansing - the expulsion of millions of Germans from the territories in which they lived for centuries. Diligence in this matter and a certain Czech “zest” in the technology of ethnic cleansing put the Soviet commanders in the border German cities in a difficult position:

“My commandant's office is located right on the Czech border,” the commandant begins. “Every day I am driven across the border by a crowd of naked people.” I put them in the basement for now. It is impossible that they run like this through the streets, and I don’t have anything to wear them with.

There is laughter in the hall. General Bogdanov asks:
- How is it - naked?
“Very simple,” the commandant replies. - Absolutely naked. In the buff. It's embarrassing to even look.
“I don’t understand anything,” looks at the general with the other members of the presidium. - Explain in more detail. Where do these naked people come from?
The commandant explains: - Germans from Czechoslovakia. Their Czechs undress on the border naked, and then driven in this form to me across the border. They say: "You came here naked, naked and come back." Sudeten Germans. Their Potsdam Treaty resettled in Germany. For the Czechs, this is a joke, but for me it's a problem ...

In the end, a solution was found: as the clothes, the Soviet commandant's offices issued bags of holes for the head to the Germans expelled by the Czechs. Nevertheless, the deported Germans did not become naked ...

A description of naked deportations is not “Soviet propaganda.” In the USSR, it was impossible to recall such tricks of the Czechs. They were brothers in the socialist camp. The fact that such a deportation in the Czechoslovak style, is written in his book “Song of the winner”, a former Soviet officer of the occupying administration in Germany, who ran to the Americans, Gregory Klimov.

Of course, the Czechs stripped naked to victims of ethnic cleansing, not out of love for nudism, but out of traditional frugality.

The medical instructor, Nadezhda Pavlovna Timofte (Osukhovskaya), ending the war in Czechoslovakia, recalled how the Czechs and Germans addressed them on the eve of the deportation: “For example, they trimmed the tracks on the Germans on their heads to distinguish them all at once. In the shops they were served in the span of just an hour. They took them to different jobs. And once I personally saw how Germans were harnessed into a cart instead of horses, and the Czech drove them ... "

Perhaps even naked deportation was not so terrible for the Germans after using them instead of horses. Yet for them ended the period of Czech lawlessness ...
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  1. +22
    5 November 2017 15: 15
    Perhaps even naked deportation was not so terrible for the Germans after using them instead of horses. Yet for them ended the period of Czech lawlessness ...

    And then they try to convince us of how innocent sheep the white whales were on their way along the Trans-Siberian Railway during the Civil War and demand the erection of monuments.
    "So, the speech of the Czechoslovak corps was part of the intervention of the Entente powers in Russia. Russia as such was interested in Czechs and Slovaks from a very pragmatic point of view - first as a country capable of fighting the Austro-German alliance and thereby contribute to the liberation of Czechoslovak lands, and then how Having gotten involved in the Civil War, the Czech legionnaires acted on our territory with the severity of the invaders, and to call them heroes by erecting monuments to them in Russia means to indulge a blatant falsity fication of history. "
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    1. +17
      5 November 2017 19: 10
      All this European filth loves to reproach the USSR for the deportation of peoples ... But in the USSR not a single people was expelled in such numbers and without means of coexistence, as the Sudeten Germans were expelled from Czechoslovakia
  2. +14
    5 November 2017 15: 25
    There is a photo on the Military Album website that some Germans were not deported, but simply shot both women and men. Such here they became bold after the war.
    1. +28
      5 November 2017 15: 58
      Quote: Hiking
      Such here they became bold after the war.

      and whoever fought the least, he swept the most. Recall the French “heroes” of shearing women or the Dutch “brave men” who poured sewage on women ... and the fault of these women was that they served German soldiers for a piece of bread, despite the fact that these “heroes” left their women to their fate and draped from the enemy is nothing.
      1. 0
        5 November 2017 19: 11
        The French cut off their Nazi whores bald, in feathers, it seems, they also rolled them off, etc., our people simply drove them stupidly to the camps, and what pity them, women who fell under the Nazi occupiers in France, in Russia, what in any other country? And it doesn’t matter if they had lust for a piece of bread, a Nazi whore - she is a Nazi whore! Some women volunteered for the army, partisans and underground, while others had fun in this way ..
        1. wax
          +19
          5 November 2017 19: 41
          And if you have a small child in your arms? His head against the wall?
          1. +2
            7 November 2017 02: 23
            Quote: Wax
            And if you have a small child in your arms? His head against the wall?

            Most of the Nazi whores had no children and they went under the Germans on a voluntary basis.
            1. +2
              7 November 2017 06: 24
              Quotation: blooded man
              there were no children and they lay under the Germans on a voluntary basis.

              where does the information come from? did you live or kina
              1. +3
                7 November 2017 22: 10
                Quote: verner1967
                where does the information come from? did you live or kina

                This information is available. Most of these ladies lived in cities where headquarters and large formations were actually located, and officers naturally lived. The whore is not the one who slept with the German a couple of times for food, but the one who cohabited with them or constantly communicated.
                By the way, you can see photos of French whores in Paris, none of these women were starving for sure. In the USSR, it was about the same only on a smaller scale, of course.
                1. 0
                  7 November 2017 22: 41
                  Quotation: blooded man
                  and the one who cohabited with them or constantly communicated.

                  and if the Nazi lives in her house, then how? and how many times can I give, what would then not be put in the camp? And if once and different it is constantly? And in general, what is the fault? How does this affect the country's defense? And who to blame for the fact that these women were left to their own devices, and they are citizens of the country, the vast majority worked, paid taxes. Yes, and another question, in Germany, our officer is sleeping with a German woman (not rape), is he also in the camp?
                  1. +1
                    9 November 2017 02: 38
                    Quote: verner1967
                    and if the Nazi lives in her house, then how?

                    No way. Weird question)



                    Quote: verner1967
                    and how many times can I give, what would then not be put in the camp?

                    How much do I know how many times each particular whore gives.
                    Quote: verner1967
                    And if once and different it is constantly?

                    In fact, these ladies are even called whores these days.
                    Quote: verner1967
                    And in general, what is the fault? How does this affect the country's defense?

                    in that the whore sleeps with those who kill her compatriots. Of course, this does not affect defense capability, just as it does not, for example, betray your wife.
                    Quote: verner1967
                    And who to blame for the fact that these women were left to their own devices, and they are citizens of the country, the vast majority worked, paid taxes.

                    nobody, this is war. Retreat and offensive are ordinary things.
                    Now, if your wife will cheat on you because of your business trip, will you blame yourself?

                    Quote: verner1967
                    Yes, and another question, in Germany, our officer is sleeping with a German woman (not rape), is he also in the camp?

                    This is the problem of a German, not our officer.
                    1. 0
                      9 November 2017 07: 38
                      Quotation: blooded man
                      How much do I know how many times each particular whore gives.

                      Quotation: blooded man
                      In fact, these ladies are even called whores these days.

                      we are now not considering the moral character of any woman, are we?
                      Quotation: blooded man
                      Retreat and offensive are common things.
                      retreat to Moscow?
                      Quotation: blooded man
                      if your wife will cheat on you
                      and you try to answer this question yourself, it seems closer to you lol
                      Quotation: blooded man
                      change due to your business trip
                      do not confuse warm with soft
                      Quotation: blooded man
                      This is the problem of a German, not our officer.

                      why so? Judging by your logic (although what kind of logic is there?) He sleeps with a woman of his enemy who wanted to enslave his compatriots good fool
                      1. +2
                        9 November 2017 15: 35
                        Quote: verner1967
                        we are now not considering the moral character of any woman, are we?

                        What are you considering? high politics laughing
                        Quote: verner1967
                        retreat to Moscow?

                        1612 ... 1812 .. tell about European wars and their capitals?
                        Quote: verner1967
                        and you try to answer this question yourself, it seems closer to you

                        you do not drag out with this matter, get married.

                        Quote: verner1967
                        do not confuse warm with soft

                        normal comparison. for some reason you have a woman should spread her legs once the enemy temporarily lost territory, is it soft or warm?
                        Quote: verner1967
                        Judging by your logic (although what kind of logic is there?) He sleeps with a woman of his enemy who wanted to enslave his compatriots

                        You have not only no logic, but also just an understanding of what you are writing about. The officer does not sleep with the woman of his enemy, but he simply takes her by right of the winner. He refers to her as a thing, not a woman.
          2. +2
            7 November 2017 12: 04
            Quote: Wax
            And if you have a small child in your arms? His head against the wall?

            Here with JUSTIFICATION it all begins. Immediately between honor and dishonor, a compromise can be found that justifies atrocities and betrayals and all other vices of cowardice ... In your opinion, it comes up at the front - LIFT HANDS IN THE EVENT OF PERSONAL SECURITY THREAT, after all, children, wife, lover can kill, and at home who they are will feed?
            1. 0
              9 November 2017 07: 40
              Quote: Serg Koma
              Here with JUSTIFICATION it all begins. Immediately between honor and dishonor you can find a compromise

              possible, especially if you compare the goal and means.
              Quote: Serg Koma
              In your opinion, it comes out at the front - LIFT HANDS IN CASE OF THREATS TO PERSONAL SAFETY, because they can kill

              God, what nonsense !!
        2. +17
          5 November 2017 20: 19
          Quote: Whispering in the night
          ours were just stupidly driven into camps

          Ours did not drive anyone anywhere; there was an order from Stalin;
          Quote: Whispering in the night
          and that they pity them, little women lying under the Nazi occupiers in France, in Russia

          yes ... people like you shot stupidly in the cellars of the "enemies of the revolution", because there are no brains. It was better to fight, so that women wouldn’t leave their enemy to the enemy, and then not hide behind women’s backs
          Quote: Whispering in the night
          Some women volunteered for the army

          and others, like you, hid behind them.
          1. +1
            6 November 2017 01: 19
            Quote: verner1967

            and others, like you, hid behind them.


            You’ll poke your wife in the kitchen, but I didn’t pass the pigs with you. And the whores that lay under the Nazis in France and in Russia, I repeat, were just whores. In their furnace ...
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                    1. +1
                      6 November 2017 14: 36
                      Quote: Whispering in the night
                      Lawyers themselves whores, for the loot ready

                      Enough to sign in your ignorance, tired of reading, I already understood everything.
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            2. +2
              6 November 2017 20: 56
              my priests .... and is it a liberalist who sang to me about the innocent victims of the Tambov uprising? Did the wolf lose its sheepskin?
        3. +1
          6 January 2018 12: 48
          RESOLUTION No. 22 / M / 16 / U / SS Plenum of the Supreme Court of the USSR
          November 25 1943 city
          On the qualification of the actions of Soviet citizens to assist the enemy in areas temporarily occupied by German invaders
          The judicial practice of military courts shows that the military courts qualify any assistance provided by Soviet citizens to the German invaders during the temporary occupation of a locality as treason to the motherland, regardless of the nature of this assistance.
          Such a qualification in some cases is incorrect and does not comply with the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of April 19, 1943, which makes a distinction between traitors to the homeland and accomplices of the enemy.
          The Plenum of the Supreme Court of the USSR decides to give the following instructions to the courts:

          1. Soviet citizens who during the period of temporary occupation of a particular area by German invaders served with the Germans in the Gestapo or in senior positions (burgomaster, police chiefs, commandants, etc.), delivered to the enemy information constituting military or state secrets; extradited or harassed guerrillas, Red Army soldiers, Soviet activists and their families; took a direct part in the killings and violence against the population, robberies and extermination of property of citizens and property belonging to the state, collective farms, cooperative and public organizations, as well as military personnel who went over to the side of the enemy - are liable for treason against Art. 58-1- a or 58-1-6 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR and the relevant articles of the K of the other union republics, and in cases provided for by the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of April 19, 1943, under Art. 1 of this Decree.

          2. Persons who performed the tasks of the German invaders to collect food, fodder and things for the needs of the German army, to restore industrial enterprises, transport and agriculture or otherwise actively assisted, in the absence of signs indicated in clause 1 in their actions, shall be responsibility as accomplices, according to Art. 58-3 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR and the relevant articles of the Criminal Code of other republics, and, as appropriate, under Art. 2 Decrees of April 19, 1943

          3. The following shall not be subject to criminal prosecution:
          a) Soviet citizens who held administrative posts under the Germans, if it is established that they provided assistance to partisans, underground and parts of the Red Army or sabotaged the fulfillment of the requirements of the German authorities, helped the population to conceal food supplies and property, or otherwise assisted in the struggle against the invaders;
          b) small employees of administrative institutions, workers and specialists engaged in their profession (doctors, veterinarians, agronomists, engineers, teachers, etc.), if they have not committed criminal acts falling under paragraphs 1 and 2 of this resolution.

          4. Voluntary confession, in the absence of grave consequences of the criminal activity of the accused, should be considered as mitigating circumstance.

          Chairman of the Supreme Court of the USSR - GOLYAKOV.
          Secretary of the Plenum of the Supreme Court of the USSR - SMOLITSKY.
          True: Head. The Secretariat of the Plenum of the Supreme Court of the USSR - MIRONOV.

          Where is the talk about whores?
        4. -1
          April 20 2018 15: 27
          You are a scoundrel and a whisperer. More than anything. I'm sure that in your life you have repeatedly raised your hand to women. You are a spiritual impotent.
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  3. +9
    5 November 2017 15: 32
    Sudeten Germans, in fact, all served in the Wehrmacht or the SS.
    Among them were the famous air and tank aces.
    So, on the Eastern Front, they were different.
    And in the punitive actions of the Germans against partisans and saboteurs
    in the Czech Republic, the Sudetenland took an active part.
    1. +22
      5 November 2017 16: 38
      So only the Soviet people had the right to destroy the Germans for this, but not the Czechs who worked and licked their heels the whole war on the Germans.
      1. -1
        April 20 2018 15: 29
        Absolutely right.
    2. +18
      5 November 2017 16: 54
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Sudeten Germans, in fact, all served in the Wehrmacht or the SS.

      Well, what did the Czechs not beat them from the 39th to the 45th inclusive? Why did the Wehrmacht and the SS work hard at the factories? So injected that the supply of Prague was no worse than Berlin!
      1. +6
        5 November 2017 17: 59
        Heydrich’s viceroy, a friend of Hitler, they killed all the same.
        And the Gestapo severely punished them for this. The burnt village of Liditsa was also in the Czech Republic, by the way.
        1. +15
          5 November 2017 18: 32
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Heydrich’s viceroy, a friend of Hitler, they killed all the same.

          Who killed? Those who worked tirelessly in factories? During lunch break? Or maybe the advanced workers during the holidays did it, because they were sent to recreational campsites for hard work! Or did Czech hard workers work hard during the day for the victory of German weapons, and at night fight in the ranks of resistance?
          You, Alexei, know that this is not so!
          Quote: voyaka uh
          And the Gestapo severely punished them for this.

          By the way, is this the Gestapo?

          1. +2
            5 November 2017 20: 23
            Quote: Dym71
            Those who worked tirelessly in factories? During lunch break?

            Worked and what, but how to live? What to feed the family? Their Europeans surrendered in the 38th, and they had to die for the Europeans from hunger?
            1. +6
              5 November 2017 20: 59
              Quote: verner1967
              Their Europeans surrendered in the 38th, and they had to die for the Europeans from hunger?

              Well, all the more, they should have treated more than three million Germans with understanding, weren't they? request
              1. +1
                5 November 2017 21: 11
                Quote: Dym71
                is not it?

                true
            2. 0
              6 January 2018 12: 53
              In theory, the Poles helped the Germans here. Since the USSR was seriously going to help. But Poland refused to let parts of the Red Army pass. They were even persuaded by the French, but it did not help. Then ours requested an air corridor to transfer troops by air, but even then the Poles refused.
              1. +1
                6 January 2018 17: 04
                Quote: Snoop
                In theory, the Poles helped the Germans here. Since the USSR was seriously going to help. But Poland refused to let parts of the Red Army pass.

                Before that, the USSR “assisted” the Baltic countries by first introducing troops and then annexing these countries to the USSR. The Poles were afraid of what. Not that I approve of their policies, but still ...
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          1. +4
            5 November 2017 18: 42
            Quote: zoolu350
            Just one village? Even you Zionists (fascists) slaughtered the Palestinians on a large scale.

            The Palestinians (the founder of their national movement was Hitler's personal friend, he sat in Berlin until 44) also slaughtered us on a grand scale, which is why they (the Palestinians) are still sitting there.
            1. +2
              5 November 2017 19: 02
              Tell me, dear, where is Moshe Dayan’s eye lost?
              1. +3
                5 November 2017 20: 12
                Quote: apro
                Tell me, dear, where is Moshe Dayan’s eye lost?

                On the border with Syria in the 40s. Bridges were blown up between Palestine and Syria, because the latter was under the French, who, after surrender, became Hitler's puppets (Vichy regime).
                1. 0
                  6 November 2017 03: 37
                  And not in a battle with the British?
                  1. 0
                    6 November 2017 11: 26
                    Quote: apro
                    And not in a battle with the British?

                    No
                    1. 0
                      6 November 2017 13: 25
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Quote: apro
                      And not in a battle with the British?


                      No

                      Can you be trusted?
            2. +4
              5 November 2017 20: 12
              it is regrettable, but up to a certain point the Zionists actively collaborated with the Nazis. Then they fled. I don’t want to upload photos of commemorative medals on this subject, but it was.
              1. +3
                5 November 2017 22: 29
                Quote: long in stock.
                it is regrettable, but up to a certain point the Zionists actively collaborated with the Nazis. Then they fled. I don’t want to upload photos of commemorative medals on this subject, but it was.

                Hitler at first simply wanted to deport Jews to Palestine, but by the year 39 it had become impossible due to British policy. Until the 39th, Jews in Germany were allowed to open several training camps in which young people were taught agriculture. During the struggle of the British (after the 39th), one of the radical Jewish organizations (Irgun Stern) tried to start cooperation with the Nazis, because believed that Britain was their common enemy. The Germans ignored the offer of cooperation, and after it became known about the massacre of Jews in the territory of the USSR, the Germans did not receive other proposals from the Soviet Union.
                That is all I know about cooperation between Germans and Jews at that time.
                1. +1
                  6 November 2017 20: 54
                  It began back in 1933. There were joint expeditions to Palestine. There was much that was not good. And the medal is dated 1934.
        3. +4
          5 November 2017 18: 57
          As far as I remember from the history of the attempt was prepared by the British intelligence ....
          1. 0
            5 November 2017 22: 08
            Anthropoid operation, the film was shot with the same name
        4. +10
          5 November 2017 22: 51
          Heydrich's assassins were abandoned from England in the fall. Heydrich was killed in the spring. Saving up national anger probably.
          The level of resistance of the Czechs is evidenced by the fact that Heydrich drove around Prague without a guard in a convertible.
        5. +2
          7 November 2017 12: 15
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Heydrich’s viceroy, a friend of Hitler, they killed all the same.

          Excuse me, but the English harassed Heydrich, the Czechs were the executors, but they served the crown again.
    3. +15
      5 November 2017 16: 56
      Do not forget Hitler an ethnic Jew, do not justify the Czechs, they have not experienced a thousandth of what the Soviet people had to experience. They do not have the moral right to classify themselves among the victors of Nazism, they surrendered their country without a fight.
      1. +11
        5 November 2017 17: 57
        Quote: apro
        Do not forget Hitler an ethnic Jew, do not justify the Czechs, they have not experienced a thousandth of what the Soviet people had to experience. They do not have the moral right to classify themselves among the victors of Nazism, they surrendered their country without a fight.

        Hitler is as much an ethnic Jew as I am a natural Eskimo. This myth arose due to three factors:
        1) Hitler's family tree was not advertised for the following reason - his father and mother were uncle and niece. But there have been many rumors of why it is not being advertised.
        2) It was difficult for a Christian to realize that such a villain could be born alone. That Jew is another matter.
        3) Jews are always and to blame for everything, therefore ...
        1. 0
          6 November 2017 03: 39
          In my life I met twice the name Hitler. One Soviet order bearer of Jewish descent. Another owner of a bar in Israel.
          1. +2
            6 November 2017 11: 30
            Quote: apro
            In my life I met twice the name Hitler. One Soviet order bearer of Jewish descent. Another owner of a bar in Israel.

            My surname Friedman, also German
            1. 0
              6 November 2017 12: 25
              Nothing of your own .....
            2. 0
              6 November 2017 20: 58
              there is no thing in the world that cannot serve a Jew as a surname and as a Chinese food ....
    4. +12
      5 November 2017 17: 00
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Sudeten Germans, in fact, all served in the Wehrmacht or the SS.

      Chmeri discovered omerica, where all of Europe served, as well as 150 of thousands of German Jews.
      1. +2
        5 November 2017 17: 57
        Quote: 32363
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Sudeten Germans, in fact, all served in the Wehrmacht or the SS.

        Chmeri discovered omerica, where all of Europe served, as well as 150 of thousands of German Jews.

        Che a half million? )))
        1. +4
          5 November 2017 19: 10
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Quote: 32363
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Sudeten Germans, in fact, all served in the Wehrmacht or the SS.

          Chmeri discovered omerica, where all of Europe served, as well as 150 of thousands of German Jews.

          Che a half million? )))

          Well, they are even stricter than the Nazis in the struggle for the purity of the Aryan race. That "Mishling of the second category" allowed not to be considered Jews, but for them they are Jews.
          1. +2
            5 November 2017 20: 23
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Quote: 32363
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Sudeten Germans, in fact, all served in the Wehrmacht or the SS.

            Chmeri discovered omerica, where all of Europe served, as well as 150 of thousands of German Jews.

            Che a half million? )))

            Well, they are even stricter than the Nazis in the struggle for the purity of the Aryan race. That "Mishling of the second category" allowed not to be considered Jews, but for them they are Jews.

            ))))))
            Well, yes, in these matters, compared to these comrades, Adolfik was an altruist - a nonsense :)
    5. -1
      April 20 2018 15: 31
      Listen, KAZAK PALESTINSKY, and you see a lot of men in the photo. Well, children, women, and old people.
  4. +11
    5 November 2017 15: 36
    Finally, no matter what they did to the Germans during the Second World War. They turned out to be so crazy that they were punished too weakly then.
    I hope the massive rape of German women took place.
    I also do not understand the groans of the bombing of Dresden. For me, they bombed so little, since they survived there.

    I remind us of the earflaps that 15 million people were killed in the USSR on the territory of the USSR.
    The Germans were then weakly repaid ...
    1. +8
      6 November 2017 00: 44
      Quote: pupsik
      I hope the massive rape of German women took place.

      Quote: pupsik
      For me, they bombed so little, since they survived there.

      Quote: pupsik
      The Germans were then weakly repaid

      Congratulations, you scum and supported you too. You are no better than any punishers, murderers and others. With only one amendment - they are dead and will not cause harm, but you are not yet.
      1. +5
        7 November 2017 02: 36
        Quote: Black5Raven
        With only one amendment - they are dead and will not cause harm, but you are not yet.

        In fact, universal forgiveness is the main drawback of the Russians and our elite. Instead of answering cruelty to cruelty, we forgive everyone and this is what our enemies perceive as weakness and then, on occasion, again they cut Russians or attack our country.
        For example, the Poles in the 19th century raised 2 revolts by cutting out several thousand Russian soldiers and thousands of Poles who were on our side. In response, the government defeated declared an amnesty. But in Prussia and AB, the Poles didn’t buzz, since nobody forgave anyone there and the nobility was slaughtered for every German soldier. If the Russians had always acted like true Europeans, then you look and would have avoided many wars, and the neighbors were afraid to open our mouths.
        1. 0
          7 November 2017 21: 10
          Quotation: blooded man
          in the 19th century, the Poles raised 2 revolts by cutting out several thousand Russian soldiers and thousands of Poles who were on our side. In response, the government defeated declared an amnesty

          We open an article on peasant uprisings in the Russian Empire and look at the number of victims and the number of uprisings. Where are the Poles? It was necessary to cut all the peasants, what you thought up against the sovereign will!

          Quotation: blooded man
          Generally universal forgiveness

          And it doesn't smell.
          Quotation: blooded man
          enemies perceive as weakness

          How tiny tiny northern countries exist, I suppose every superpower was.
          Quotation: blooded man
          on occasion, they cut the Russians again

          It’s not bad that they themselves manage now too. Kazakaz ahem
          1. +3
            7 November 2017 22: 18
            Quote: Black5Raven
            Where are the Poles? It was necessary to cut all the peasants, what you thought up against the sovereign will!

            You do not understand the difference between your own and others?
            Yes, and there is no need to scoff here, peasant uprisings were always suppressed very cruelly and all their leaders were executed. Nobody executed the Polish gentry, and even after the amnesty they again gave the state. posts.


            Quote: Black5Raven
            How tiny tiny northern countries exist, I suppose every superpower was.

            What? explain your idea.
            Quote: Black5Raven
            It’s not bad that they themselves manage now too. Kazakaz ahem

            So I write about it. Shamil was not executed, such as Pugachev.
            1. -1
              April 20 2018 16: 03
              What do you think. What fussed with the Poles? “In total, about 1863 death sentences were sentenced to active participants in the entire territory of the uprising from 1865 to 400. The last execution for participating in the uprising took place in the market of Sokolow Podlaski on May 11 (23), 1865, in front of 10 thousand people. The last field commander of the uprising, Stanislav Bzhuska, together with his deputy, Frantisek Vilchinsky, were executed. "
  5. +8
    5 November 2017 15: 49
    Often had to be in Czechoslovakia, it was necessary to launch the Tesla enterprise. This is in Pardubice. A lot was striking in this country, especially Khutna Gora. But what I described Nicholas I hear for the first time. And the Czechs never told me about this, apparently embarrassed. I have the honor.
    1. +3
      5 November 2017 20: 25
      Michman, I certainly very much apologize and respect you very much, but the company under the name TESLA in Pardubice has been operating since 1946, and from 1922 to 1946 the company operated under the name TELEGRAFIA. How old are you that you already launched enterprises in those years. Maybe you were still doing something else, but the company was launched without you?
      1. +2
        6 November 2017 07: 41
        Dear Curious, I had to arrive in Pardubice for the first time in 1981. At Tesla, the enterprise already bore this name. We had to launch secondary radars in production within the CMEA framework. In the USSR, the production of these radars was carried out by the Rossiya software in Leningrad. But there was not enough capacity. Hundreds of aerodromes and airports had to be equipped (by this time their number reached more than 1500). The pardubis hit me. Hares ran along the banks of the Elba River, peacocks walked calmly. No one scared them. I have the honor.
        1. +2
          6 November 2017 10: 51
          Thank you very much for your reply. The TESLA plant (Pardubice) began developing radars in the 1950s. It is obvious that cooperation with the USSR benefited them in this regard.
          And the places there are beautiful now.

          Thanks again for the answer.
  6. +3
    5 November 2017 15: 58
    Interestingly, is it really so interesting to consider who raped whom more and compare types of deportation? Yes, all this dirt was. It must be remembered, but it does not need to be savored, adding more and more details. Here we had the deportation of the Crimean Tatars. At first they tried not to talk about her, then they tried to justify her, now it is very likely that they will elevate her to some rank.
    1. +10
      5 November 2017 16: 33
      You need to be reminded, if only to shut up those with a snout in fluff, but Russophobia is actively cultivated. It should be more often reminded of the eviction of Germans by Poles from East Prussia, and the participation of these many Euro countries on the side of the Nazis, and Americans poke their nose - from the destruction of the indigenous population, to the outbreak of local conflicts around the world. Their media are silent about this, and therefore the persecution of our media broadcasting to foreign audiences.
  7. +20
    5 November 2017 16: 26


    Something like this. No comments.
  8. +14
    5 November 2017 16: 30
    The Czechs made planes, armored vehicles, small arms, and ammunition with national thoroughness.
    ..Not they alone, all of Europe tried ... In Belgium, they even went on strike at the beginning of the war demanding payment of military prices, the Germans satisfied the demands.
  9. +12
    5 November 2017 16: 38
    In memory of those events in 1968, it was the Germans from the GDR who were the most fierce about the Czechs. But now the Czechs are so white and fluffy, so politically correct that the events of the 68th year blame only the Russians laughing Even the fact that Brezhnev was a Ukrainian is not of interest to them. This is also not politically correct.
    1. +11
      5 November 2017 18: 43
      Yeah, the Soviet column is coming, the Czechs are jumping onto the road, ours are stopping, and the Czechs are beginning to insult them and throw stones at them. There is a German convoy, the Czechs jump out onto the road and get minced meat on the tracks, after that the Czechs set up sentinels, whose task was to determine whose convoy was coming and whether it was possible to jump onto the road.
      1. +2
        5 November 2017 22: 06
        What the Germans did specifically in the north of the Czech Republic was told to me by several locals, independently from each other, over a cup of tea. I have no reason not to believe them. The columns didn’t just come, the troops remained there. In the understanding of the local it was an occupation. Do you want to blame me for lying?
    2. +2
      6 November 2017 01: 33
      Gg do not drive snowstorms !!! The army of the GDR really wanted to participate in the year 68, but it was not allowed into Czechoslovakia. We managed the Hungarians Poles and ours. So I don’t know what the Czechs told you there over a cup of tea.
      1. +2
        6 November 2017 21: 02
        Since you don’t know why argue? Here is the comment of our colleague dated May of this year.
        Curious May 28, 2017 14:23 p.m. ↑
        Parts of the German Democratic Republic entered the territory of Czechoslovakia along the Karlovy Vary – Marianske Lazne line as part of one division and on the Decin – Liberec line as part of almost two divisions.
        Before the Liberec Town Hall, GDR soldiers opened fire on unarmed civilians. One man was shot dead and 17 people were injured.
        On the Old Town Square in Liberec, the armed forces of the GDR shot and destroyed a residential building ...
        August 30 and 31, 1968, the armed forces of the GDR left Czechoslovakia.
        Look for information on Czech sites, the same German Democratic Union in Czechoslovakia,
        Jan Berwid-Buquoy, a political scientist and historian working in the Czech Republic and Germany, also wrote about this.
        If participants of those events are present on the site, let us judge which of us drives the blizzard.
        1. 0
          6 November 2017 21: 46
          Initially, although it was planned to use two mottoes of the NVA (National People's Army of the GDR.), However, precisely because of the connotation they were not used from 1938-39, several dozen German observers were involved at the borders (on the German side !!) on a case of necessity and Soviet need was the 7th tank and 11th motorized infantry motto NVA! Please stop fooling already
          PS By the way, this Liberec square is not called Old Town Square, as it was called during the German colonization of the city (Altstadtplatz) And after 1945 it was called Dr. E. Benes Square, during the communist period - the Square of peace activists, and after 1989 - again the Square Dr. E. Benes
    3. +1
      6 November 2017 07: 53
      Quote: Giants
      events of the 68th year blame only Russian

      and you look at the ratio in the number of troops entered and understand why? It was just that then it was necessary to create the appearance of unity of the internal affairs department, so they introduced everyone a little bit and then not for long. And then the Soviet troops fired on the Czechs (it was not from bloodthirstiness, they simply acted in the main directions and the first, therefore there was active resistance from the Czechoslovakia).
      "What shall we do with you, my oath,
      Where to get the words to talk about
      As in the forty-fifth we were met by Prague
      And as I met in sixty-eighth ... "
      Alexander Twardowski
  10. +3
    5 November 2017 16: 43
    In the end, a solution was found: as the clothes, the Soviet commandant's offices issued bags of holes for the head to the Germans expelled by the Czechs. Nevertheless, the deported Germans did not become naked ...


    I have doubts about the veracity of such a fact. It is possible that the Czechs could have driven naked people out, but in the place of the Soviet commandant I would have found clothes other than bags with holes.
    I believe in kitchens for Germans on the streets of Berlin, but not in bags ....
    1. +1
      5 November 2017 18: 01
      Quote: tasha
      In the end, a solution was found: as the clothes, the Soviet commandant's offices issued bags of holes for the head to the Germans expelled by the Czechs. Nevertheless, the deported Germans did not become naked ...


      I have doubts about the veracity of such a fact. It is possible that the Czechs could have driven naked people out, but in the place of the Soviet commandant I would have found clothes other than bags with holes.
      I believe in kitchens for Germans on the streets of Berlin, but not in bags ....

      You can’t find the old spoiled uniforms in units of a crowd of civilians, you can’t requisition from the local population - is there a way out?
      1. +5
        5 November 2017 18: 43
        Warehouses of the German army, the Czech army, why not requisition from the local population?
        1. +3
          5 November 2017 20: 17
          Quote: tasha
          Warehouses of the German army, the Czech army, why not requisition from the local population?

          1) did the officer have access to these depots? He then had to do everything in real time
          2) it takes people and time to requisition clothes from local people
          3) all this did not enter into his tasks - he helped with what he could, quickly and efficiently - well done, that he did not freeze.
  11. +6
    5 November 2017 17: 56
    It would be necessary in the media to promote this topic as it should. And it turns out that the enemies are actively waging an information war, while ours are sluggishly refusing
    1. +10
      5 November 2017 18: 26
      Quote: Type 63
      It would be necessary in the media to promote this topic as it should. And it turns out that the enemies are actively waging an information war, while ours are sluggishly refusing

      And in general, it would be better not to shoot “Viking” and “Matilda” for wild loot, but films about WWII both in English and with popular Western actors (and for the same money). And the Germans would open the museums of the Russian genocide around the world.
      1. +4
        5 November 2017 20: 09
        so they will entrust this business to bureaucrats and at the exit we will get another Matilda ....
        1. 0
          5 November 2017 20: 29
          Quote: Long in stock.
          the output will get another Matilda ....

          well, “Matilda” famously filmed. I don’t know how with historical accuracy, but the film turned out to be good.
          1. +4
            5 November 2017 20: 31
            but I didn’t like it. weakly both the actors' play and the script. so I didn’t see where such a breakthrough was made.
            1. +1
              5 November 2017 21: 13
              Quote: Long in stock.
              but I didn’t like

              if they make a film that you like, then in the west it will not work. There you need to make films, the same as theirs, then there will be success.
              1. 0
                6 November 2017 21: 00
                I don’t think that Russia needs to make films for the West. They will not succeed there anyway.
            2. 0
              6 November 2017 15: 25
              Quote: long in stock.
              but I didn’t like it. weakly both the actors' play and the script. so I didn’t see where such a breakthrough was made.

              Budget money, moreover! Our taxes.
          2. +1
            6 November 2017 15: 24
            Quote: verner1967
            "Matilda" famously filmed. I don’t know how with historical accuracy, but the film turned out to be good.

            From a historical point of view, the film is clearly false slag, but from an artistic point of view it simply sucks, moreover, sucks, which have already failed at the box office. And the porn actor in the title role, well, you certainly like these .. lol
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            2. 0
              6 November 2017 21: 01
              oh well ... 1 tit at the beginning and 2 in the middle .. here and all the pornography ..
        2. +2
          5 November 2017 20: 51
          Quote: long in stock.
          so they will entrust this business to bureaucrats and at the exit we will get another Matilda ....

          Isn't it better to charge Spielberg directly? :) eg.
          1. 0
            6 November 2017 21: 03
            alas, the mentality is not the same. Spielberg dude is certainly unique .. but how will he understand for example the indefinite article ... la?
  12. +2
    6 November 2017 05: 22
    Deportation and ethnic cleansing, that’s what it is. In other words, a crime that has no statute of limitations. Why would human rights activists from Europe not raise this issue and not demand repentance and apology from the Czech Republic?
  13. +1
    6 November 2017 09: 30
    It was so. Back in Soviet times I read about it, shock.
  14. +2
    6 November 2017 09: 39
    There was simply no mass partisan movement in the Czech Republic. In France it was, in Yugoslavia it was, even in Italy it was ... But in the Czech Republic it was not. Throughout the war, one Heydrich banged. And then some kind of muddy story. They simply do not have the moral right to avenge the defeated Germans.
  15. 0
    6 November 2017 13: 10
    Whatever this camarilla does, the Russians are to blame.
  16. 0
    6 November 2017 13: 33
    Deportation of naked Germans from Czechoslovakia

    Yes, I agree that about this, our former ovaries should be poked in the face like naughty cats. Lord, but over the past 2 days, this article has walked around the VO affiliate sites in different sections, from opinions to economics, which just becomes embarrassing. What about we cannot submit this fact to another? They are us on one
    the same fake photo is treated differently, and we throw the same article from one resource to another. Let our “friends” poke their faces in the same tray.
  17. +15
    6 November 2017 14: 04
    2 thanks from Hitler for the war were workers of Czech armored plants
    Such are the proletarian brothers
    As they say - everything is returned by a boomerang
    1. 0
      7 November 2017 06: 27
      Quote: Some kind of Compote
      Such are the proletarian brothers

      and why did they suddenly become bros? When they threw them under Hitler, no one remembered that they were brothers, why should they harness themselves to Europe?
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  19. 0
    7 November 2017 16: 39
    The British from Malta, the Maltese were deported to Africa. In the United States, ethnic Japanese were interned. Something is not remembered about it. The practice of deportation and internment was common in that war.
    1. 0
      7 November 2017 16: 55
      War is such a thing - it’s better to be safe ....
  20. 0
    7 November 2017 22: 47
    Well, the Germans even respected the Czechs somewhere: Slavic, you know, people, but still more or less Germanized. They even wanted to make managers in future estates in the East.
    After the war, the Czechs showed with their zeal that they adopted something from the advanced German culture. wassat
  21. 0
    9 November 2017 18: 58
    Quotation: blooded man
    What are you considering? high politics
    why me? We are considering criminal law
    Quotation: blooded man
    1612 ... 1812 .. tell about European wars and their capitals?
    yeah, tell me, just do not forget about the ideology
    Quotation: blooded man
    you do not drag out with this matter, get married
    married already, we're talking about wives lol
    Quotation: blooded man
    normal comparison. for some reason you have a woman should spread her legs once the enemy temporarily lost territory
    she doesn’t owe anyone, but for the most part she’s forced, by the way, a woman, she’s generally non-combatant (if you know this word) so she doesn’t owe anything to anyone.
    Quotation: blooded man
    You have not only no logic, but also just an understanding of what you are writing about. The officer does not sleep with the woman of his enemy, but he simply takes her by right of the winner. He refers to her as a thing, not a woman.
    behold, we answered the previous question ourselves, so read your answer several times before bedtime laughing
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