Revolution and the "Third Rome"

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Revolution and the "Third Rome"


It seems to me very important that we started the conversation about the Russian dream on the land of Esenin, on the land of the Ryazan principality, which was in stories independent, competing with Moscow, one of the most important spiritual and historical centers of the Russian people. The feudal wars in the Middle Ages were everywhere - both in Europe and in Asia.



I am absolutely not in favor of the concept "Moscow is the third Rome", since I perceive Rome as an absolutely hostile phenomenon to the Russian people. For me, Rome is the embodiment of the earthly antichrist dream, the city-state, where the city-society, the state is declared the highest divine value, and the pontiff - this high priest, he is the ruler of the state - is declared almost the main servant of God, devouring human lives. Why should we go to this obvious historical trap into which the ruling elites, who constantly sought to become part of the West, led us, and Russia, the Russian people, and other peoples who lived here, could be used as a resource for acquiring assets in this global club of global Rome? Rome will always perceive the land to the east of the Danube, which reached Trajan’s legions, as the land of barbarians, as a land of threat, as land intended to be a source of slaves and raw materials.

Our military leaders, Slavic, Gothic, Turkic - these were people who became such, as a rule, for their qualities - for their courage, for their ability to lead troops, for their justice and mercy. Because in our tradition, slaves are hostages who simply lost weapons, lived for some time together with those who took them captive, then after some time they were either released for ransom, or sent home. Often they became members of the families of their "masters".

Whenever Russia cast off the illusions of Western Roman temptation, when it relies on itself and seeks its true identity, it becomes a truly great world power. In this sense, I regard the great tragedy of Russia as the 17th century split, the main fault in Russian history and the Russian spirit. Romanovskaya nobility, with the support of the clergy, simply chose to become part of the Western elite and part of the global Uniate project. The Russian people resisted this, he gave tens of thousands of martyrs, burned and tortured confessors of the Orthodox faith, the Razin uprising, the Bulavinian uprising, the Pugachev uprising.

In the 20th century, the Russian people created the Soviet dream. It was not Marxist, it was precisely anti-Western, based on the inclusion of tens of millions of people in the socio-historical development processes. The children of the peasants in this project could become poets, engineers, professors. My mother is the daughter of a peasant, but in 40, she received her education in Stalin, she was an engineer. My grandfather was born in a Belarusian peasant family and, knowing eight languages, ended his life as a professor at two universities. But if there was no revolution, who would it be?

I recently told Alexander Andreyevich that, thanks to our discussions with him, I deeply reconsidered my view of Stalin and the Stalin era. I did not understand and did not feel it, but now, having stepped over the 50 frontier of years, I understand that he was the leader who was looking for internal development resources and did not copy Western schemes. I will devote the rest of my life to the struggle for liberation from all forms of Western ideological and other occupation of my country and my people.
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  1. +9
    2 November 2017 05: 21
    Well done Maxim! Comprehend and draw conclusions.
    1. +1
      2 November 2017 05: 42
      I recently told Alexander Andreyevich
      the speech is apparently about Prokhanov - his presentation style ... and Shevchenko, added the last paragraph ...
      1. +4
        2 November 2017 06: 01
        Quote: Grandfather is caste
        about Prokhanov
        About Prokhanov, that's for sure. But the style is not his, he has pathos! hi hi
      2. 0
        8 November 2017 19: 44
        No, Prokhanov speaks with metaphors, this is not his.
    2. +8
      2 November 2017 07: 05
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      Comprehend and draw conclusions.

      If every resident of the former USSR boasted of these qualities, we would now live in one country and be the most prosperous nation fellow
      And so now, simple logical truths are not available to brains clogged by the exam, iPhones and clothes with babos and making four mistakes in the word "yet" request
      1. 0
        2 November 2017 22: 26
        And you asked youth how they perceive the USSR?

        I can say about Canada.

        University youth are very cautiously interested in what is socialism, communism. At the university, you can sometimes see posts about seminars on communism.
        Everyone cares about their future.
        And no one sees a future with a salary of 40-50 k, and the cost of a cardboard chicken coop for half a lemon.
        Young people cannot live separately, not enough resources.
        Capitalism is the concentration of resources in the hands of units.
        1. 0
          3 November 2017 06: 29
          Quote: gladcu2
          University youth are very cautiously interested in what is socialism, communism. At the university, you can sometimes see posts about seminars on communism.

          laughing Capitalist reality will quickly wake up dreams of justice from the brains of Canadian students wink
    3. +3
      2 November 2017 11: 31
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Well done Maxim! Comprehend and draw conclusions.


      Comprehended ... laughing

      Our military leaders, Slavic, Gothic, Turkic - these were people who became such, as a rule, for their qualities - for their courage, for their ability to lead troops, for their justice and mercy.


      Directly such infinite mercy was shown by the Turkic leaders to the Slavs, everyone directly dreamed of getting into "our Turkic" witches in slavery .... in the same place as in a sanatorium (according to Shevchenko)

      For Rome, all of today's Back Europe - these were also barbarians. True, the word "barbarian" had a completely different meaning at that time than now.

      In the XX century, the Russian people created the Soviet dream. She was not Marxist, she was precisely anti-Western,


      Only for some reason on Marxist ideology. By the way, gentlemen, take an interest in the statements of Marx about Russia and the Russians during the Crimean War.
  2. +3
    2 November 2017 08: 28
    I will certainly devote the rest of my life to the struggle for liberation from all forms of Western ideological and other occupation of my country and my people.
    And by the way, it would be time for everyone to understand that the Kremlin and the State Department are synonyms.
    1. +3
      2 November 2017 08: 42
      Quote: Gardamir
      that the Kremlin and the State Department are synonyms.

      It's all your fault ... then your hyperborea was busted then something else, now the Kremlin State Department))))))))))))))) Che kick in the mirror then ...?))
      Yes, and the State Department is a synonym for our Foreign Ministry.
      1. 0
        2 November 2017 11: 27
        hyperborea
        Are you talking about the USSR?
        It's all your fault.
        But do not you whine about the State Department, Ukraine, Poland, Europe?
        1. +1
          2 November 2017 11: 52
          Quote: Gardamir
          But do not you whine about the State Department, Ukraine, Poland, Europe?

          ???? Excuse me, are you sick?
    2. +1
      2 November 2017 11: 51
      Quote: Gardamir
      And by the way, it would be time for everyone to understand that the Kremlin and the State Department are synonyms
      So you say that the Communists surrendered to the capitalists? Although no, what communists in the Kremlin what And exactly in the 90 years the country was pr - and the Communists, and then .. they were removed from power, go Boris, you already fought your own, tired, rest Yes Since then, the Communists have power deficit,things to do? Yes, here to write a slap
      Quote: Gardamir
      And by the way, it would be time for everyone to understand that the Kremlin and the State Department are synonyms.

      It's a shame, listen, I also want to steer, wai fellow give me money!
  3. +2
    2 November 2017 08: 39
    When they start talking about leaders .......I understand that he was the leader who was looking for ...... , then this begins to alarm. From them (the leaders) then only garbage remains on the grave, chaos and devastation. The author's arguments about Rome are also confused.
  4. SMP
    0
    2 November 2017 11: 23
    In the XX century, the Russian people created the Soviet dream. It was not Marxist, it was precisely anti-Western, relying on the inclusion of tens of millions of people in the socio-historical processes of development.


    A fact from which no one will get out.

    I recently told Alexander Andreyevich that, thanks to our discussions with him, I deeply revised my view of Stalin and the Stalin era. I did not understand and did not feel it, but now, having stepped over the boundary of 50 years, I understand that he was the leader who was looking for internal development resources, did not copy Western schemes.


    Over time, I also completely revised my views, the Stalin era was necessary, otherwise by 1941 in such a short time the industrial revolution in Russia would not have been possible.
    And at first he went into the general course, since my great-grandfather was a strong middle peasant, was dispossessed and exiled to Kopeisk. Well so since 1992, like everyone else .... young is green, but time has put everything in its place.
    The bakers begin to whine what a powerful country would be, but wouldn’t be, capitalism creates constant systemic crises in any country, and the Russian Empire is no exception.
  5. +1
    5 November 2017 17: 45
    Hello were! How was this socialist revolution not Marxist? What does it mean was just anti-Western? It was precisely in the dialectic of Marx that it was. In many ways, progressive, although it had its drawbacks. Like any first created design, the model was far from perfect. This is a problem for all pioneers.
    The flip side of the abolition of classes in society was total equalization. Even in cases where people did not deserve it (for example, they led a primitive and often parasitic way of life. Such characters of the socialist system are well reflected in Bulgakov’s novels) ..
    But of course, the current system of government is of little use for the advanced development of society. And take into account the experience of socialist time, will definitely have to. What the first socialist system really lost to capitalism is the breadth of choice and the accessibility of benefits for the population. Remember E. Ryazanov’s “Garage”, no car, no garage. And the deficit that devoured society like a cancerous tumor.

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