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In the US Navy published a report on incidents with American destroyers

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The command of the US Navy today published a report on the disasters of two warships. Speech about the destroyers "John McCain" and "Fitzgerald", which at different times 2017 of the year allowed clashes with civilian courts.


Recall that the USS Fitzgerald warship collided with the dry cargo ship ACX Cristal 17 in June, and the John F. Kennedy with the Alnic MC 21 tanker in August.

In the US Navy published a report on incidents with American destroyers


The US Navy said that the collision was made due to command errors.

From the report:
The accident with the destroyer Fitzgerald was due to mistakes made in complying with the rules of navigation. The observation team ignored the necessary communications regulations, and the command did not take into account the norms of a collision avoidance protocol.

The head of the naval operations of the US Navy, Admiral John Richardson, noted that in fact, the events in the case of the crash of the destroyer “John McCain” were developing in a similar way. According to the American admiral, the command did not comply with the rules for preventing collisions and "demonstrated excessive self-confidence, which eventually led to the tragedy."

Further, Richardson said that in the USA they were accustomed to learn from their mistakes, and therefore “they will do everything possible to prevent similar tragedies from happening in the future.”

Recall that as a result of these accidents, the US Navy lost 17 troops.

The Russian military department has not yet published a report on the reasons for the collision of the middle reconnaissance ship Liman with a civilian vessel near the Bosphorus.
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  1. Logall
    Logall 1 November 2017 18: 04 New
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    Speech about the destroyers "John McCain"

    As you call a yacht, it will sail!
    We would watch the classics of Soviet animation, would not make such a mistake ...
    Found in honor of whom to name! This pilot has never landed his plane. It’s good that the destroyer got to the port ...
    1. The_lancet
      The_lancet 1 November 2017 18: 09 New
      +2
      Further, Richardson said that in the United States they are used to learning from their mistakes.

      That's right.
      The Russian military department has not yet published a report on the reasons for the collision of the middle reconnaissance ship Liman with a civilian vessel near the Bosphorus.

      What happened to him?
      Found in honor of whom to name! This pilot has never landed his plane. It’s good that the destroyer got to the port ...

      What are you talking about?
      1. Logall
        Logall 1 November 2017 18: 11 New
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        Quote: The_Lancet

        What happened to him?

        At about noon on April 27, near the entrance to the Black Sea Bosphorus, the Russian reconnaissance ship "Liman" and a cattle ship collided ... As a result, "Liman" got a hole and sank. 78 crew members rescued, no injuries
        1. The_lancet
          The_lancet 1 November 2017 18: 33 New
          +3
          I'm not only talking about this
          Found in honor of whom to name! This pilot has never landed his plane. It’s good that the destroyer got to the port ...

          You were mistaken. The warship is named after John Sidney McCain Jr. (1911 - 1981) and John Sidney McCain St. (1884 - 1945). They were USN admirals. Not pilots
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 1 November 2017 19: 13 New
          +1
          By the way. Was there a MO report on this? Who's guilty? Cattle truck?
          Why is not a lawsuit filed?
          1. Logall
            Logall 1 November 2017 21: 17 New
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            What side are you here? What is your interest?
            Just throw negatives?
            Chur, troll am
          2. san4es
            san4es 1 November 2017 21: 34 New
            +6
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Why is not a lawsuit filed?

            ... Turks paid directly on the spot $$ by transfer + %% ... via mobile bank bully
            ... so quicker than suing yes
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 2 November 2017 09: 31 New
              +2
              AND! they would say so right away! drinks
      2. Sergei75
        Sergei75 1 November 2017 18: 13 New
        +1
        it's about the downed pilot - John McCain.
      3. venik
        venik 1 November 2017 18: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: The_Lancet
        Further, Richardson said that in the US they are used to learning from their mistakes ..... That's for sure.

        ============
        Oh oh ???? "Only the pale-faced (American) manages to step 2 (two !!!) times on the" same rake "(Chingachguk) ......
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 2 November 2017 01: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: venik
          manages to attack 2 (two !!!) times

          not 2, but 4 !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing

          The collision of John McCain with an oil tanker was the fourth incident with an American warship in Asia. In June, in the Pacific Ocean, 100 km off the coast of Yokosuki, the USS Fitzgerald collided with a Philippine container ship ACX Crystal. After the accident, search and rescue services found on the lower deck of the destroyer the bodies of seven dead sailors. Okoyn then stated that the ship’s crew had committed “heroic actions to keep the ship afloat”, promising to take personal control of the incident investigation.

          Two more incidents involving ships of the Seventh Fleet cost no casualties. One of them occurred in January with the Entity ship at sea; the second in May, with the Lake Champlain ship, which collided with a fishing vessel in South Korea.
    2. Teberii
      Teberii 1 November 2017 18: 09 New
      0
      Igoism, exclusivity and ideotism cause clashes if the lesson is not learned the first time.
    3. The black
      The black 1 November 2017 18: 18 New
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      Found in honor of whom to name! This pilot has never landed his plane. It’s good that the destroyer got to the port ...
      This is not in his honor ... this is in honor of the grandfather of this dodger ... smile... Grandfather (and father) were his admirals and both John McCain of the Third Admiral, as you can see, they failed to grow. The reasons are at the start-up post, and besides, he, like most majors, is an addict, a drunkard and a rowdy. No kidding. His biography is very scandalous ..... and even after the Vietnamese beat him for five years with his head against a palm tree, the guy fell ill laughing
      1. Logall
        Logall 1 November 2017 18: 24 New
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        So that’s why brain cancer didn’t harm him — the whole brain of the drug was gobbled up!
        1. The black
          The black 1 November 2017 18: 27 New
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          Quote: Logall
          that’s why brain cancer didn’t harm him — the whole brain of the drug was gobbled up!

          You read his biography .... the funniest thing is that this IDD acting as a military has caused such damage (in the literal sense) that the North Koreans can only dream about it ... laughingIn a word, he was a walking disaster, the appearance of which on the lists of any unit drove the command into a stupor. wassat.... at first he drowned one plane, then hooked the power transmission line with the wing of another, then, being on the aircraft carrier’s airfield, he accidentally launched a rocket that fell into the gas tank of another aircraft, resulting in a fire and minus 21 !!! the plane .... then Vietnam .... in short, be my will - HERO OF THE SOVIET UNION! SIGNIFICANTLY! wassat
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 1 November 2017 18: 53 New
            +3
            Quote: Black
            be my will - HERO OF THE SOVIET UNION! SIGNIFICANTLY!

            Why didn’t they give us something? belay Or cherished the agent? laughing
            1. The black
              The black 1 November 2017 18: 55 New
              +3
              Quote: NIKNN
              Why didn’t they give us something? Or cherished the agent?

              Yes, FIG knows ... maybe they gave him a secret decree ... wassat
              1. NIKNN
                NIKNN 1 November 2017 18: 57 New
                +3
                Quote: Black
                Yes, FIG knows ... maybe they gave it by secret decree.

                laughing Dali most likely, such feats should not be left without a reward. They will declassify after death, publish it, there may be more than once a hero will appear ... laughing
                1. The black
                  The black 1 November 2017 19: 01 New
                  +9
                  Then the Vietnamese didn’t beat him with hoes after he ejected .... they treated him in the hospital .... they returned to their homeland ... wassat ... apparently guessed that this IDDO would be more useful if returned wassat
                  1. NIKNN
                    NIKNN 1 November 2017 19: 04 New
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                    Quote: Black
                    . apparently guessed that this idiot would be more useful if returned

                    It’s a pity that I’m sick, I think this hour would be still useful ... Although with his illness, his effectiveness is growing, wassat
                    1. jjj
                      jjj 1 November 2017 19: 34 New
                      +7
                      When McCain with his rocket ignited the aircraft on an aircraft carrier, our submarine was working out a training torpedo attack on this aircraft carrier. At the same time. And when explosions rang out after the attack on the aircraft carrier, ours thought that the attack was not training. They returned to the base in heavy thought. But it turned out like
                      1. NIKNN
                        NIKNN 1 November 2017 19: 36 New
                        +1
                        Quote: jjj
                        ours thought that the attack was not training. They returned to the base in heavy thought. But it turned out like

                        good laughing I have not heard takoko option. laughing good
                      2. Fedya2017
                        Fedya2017 1 November 2017 21: 13 New
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                        Quote: jjj
                        And when explosions rang out after the attack on the aircraft carrier, ours thought that the attack was not training. They returned to the base in heavy thought

                        Do you really believe that? I clarify the question ... Do you know for sure that our American ships fire real torpedoes, even if they are "training", without an ammunition ?!
                      3. Like a lieutenant
                        Like a lieutenant 2 November 2017 02: 30 New
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                        The Enterprise fire bike is described on the Internet. Search for the words "make a loop in a submarine." The author, according to the same network, is Kapraz Nikolai Kuryanchik.
          2. Cutter
            Cutter 1 November 2017 18: 55 New
            +7
            and "demonstrated excessive self-confidence, which ultimately led to tragedy."

            Well, they don’t take it, they don’t really know how to “walk,” and they’re full of pants ... yes
          3. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 1 November 2017 19: 33 New
            +7
            Quote: Black
            Then, being on the aircraft carrier’s aircraft site, he made an accidental launch of a rocket that hit the gas tank of another aircraft, resulting in a fire and minus 21 !!! plane....

            Well, how much can you repeat this bike?
            That ill-fated rocket flew from the Phantom, which stood in front of McCain’s Skyhawk. And she hit the neighboring Skyhawk, breaking through his PTB and causing a jet fuel fire. While the fire broke out, McCain managed to get out of the cockpit of his attack aircraft.
            And the guilty parties in that fire are the gunsmiths from the AB deck crew. They, in violation of the instructions, connected the cables to the NURS launcher before the aircraft was placed on the catapult, and also did not pay attention to the accidental withdrawal of safety checks. As a result, an impulse in the Phantom's onboard network triggered the launch of the NURS.
            It was from these impulses (which aircraft manufacturers could not defeat then) that the instruction insured. Stop "phantom" on the catapult - NURS would go to sea without hitting anyone. Do not connect the gunsmiths cable - the impulse would not have reached the PU. And so the “Phantom” shot directly at the Skyhawk opposite it.
            The second fault of gunsmiths is taking on board AB rusty bombs, which have been lying in warehouses and on open areas in the tropics for 20 years. They did not even let them down in the cellar - they were afraid that the explosives inside began to decompose and might explode. Moreover, unlike new bombs, for which the fire brigade had 10 minutes to extinguish, the "old men" burst very quickly in a fire.
            It was such a bomb, fried with burning fuel, that suddenly exploded and scuttled the entire emergency party, rushing to extinguish the fire. 7 more bombs of the same type rushed after her.

            By the way, on the supply base, the officer who was shipping the bombs, after he learned that the cargo would go to the AB, refused to sign documents and release ammunition transport without a written order from his superiors. For he knew well how many of these bombs lay down and in what conditions.
            1. Rurikovich
              Rurikovich 1 November 2017 20: 53 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Well, how much can you repeat this bike?

              Alas, Alexei, society today has completely forgotten how to think and analyze request
              Even the most sensational and provocative cases have ordinary, simple, and, most importantly, logical explanations that remove all questions ... But wink beautiful version is always "more successful" request
              Thanks for the truth hi
              PS Sometimes, the story is even "written" ... winked
            2. papas-57
              papas-57 1 November 2017 21: 13 New
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              '' That ill-fated rocket flew from the Phantom, which was opposite the McCain Skyhawk. '' Following the current logic of Americans, McCain is 100% to blame, since he was close to the scene.
              1. Mih1974
                Mih1974 1 November 2017 21: 56 New
                +1
                good Yes, yes, if any American politician simply "eats a hamburg in the same McDonald's with a Russian" - he’s all already a "Russian spy" laughing
        2. 79807420129
          79807420129 1 November 2017 19: 05 New
          +9
          Quote: Logall
          So that’s why brain cancer didn’t harm him — the whole brain of the drug was gobbled up!

          So Sanya! There it is, that it’s not without reason that the ukropatriots love so much, sons of one palm. laughing
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    5. papas-57
      papas-57 1 November 2017 21: 07 New
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      '' As you call a yacht, it will sail! '' Both clashes came only from the fact that the commanders of these destroyers felt that the ships of the "exclusive nation" were stuck with the rules of navigation and turned away from some ships there. They should be passed by everyone and everywhere. And they can swim where they want and as they want.
    6. stolz
      stolz 1 November 2017 22: 29 New
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      The Americans are brazen to the limit, no international shipping rules exist for them, what they want is what they do, and they paid for it.
  2. Sergei75
    Sergei75 1 November 2017 18: 12 New
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    ABOUT! already in life, the destroyer McCain was called, or did he die?
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 1 November 2017 18: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergei75
      ABOUT! already in life, the destroyer McCain was called, or did he die?

      Yes there is no living bastard and does not cease to spoil.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 1 November 2017 19: 39 New
      +2
      It is in honor of the grandfather and father. And, to tell you the truth - for the cause. We could call a cruiser in honor of such an admiral as McCain’s grandfather. smile
      For the oldest McCain participated in WWI and WWII, and his last post was the post of commander of TF.38 - the main striking force of the USN in TO. Died 4 days after the conclusion of a peace treaty.
  3. Obstacle
    Obstacle 1 November 2017 18: 13 New
    +3
    “The supervisory team ignored”, “the command did not take into account” - an elementary realization of the chosenness in the flesh. (IMHO)
  4. izya top
    izya top 1 November 2017 18: 23 New
    +2
    in the USA they are used to learning from their mistakes, and therefore "will do everything possible to prevent such tragedies from happening in the future."
    weld all your dishes to the piers yes
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 1 November 2017 19: 19 New
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      Izzy hi drinks maybe they’ll just be pulled out to this very pier, will they be more? ?? lol
      1. izya top
        izya top 1 November 2017 19: 22 New
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        Quote: Herkulesich
        pull out to this very pier

        it's hard request all blacks have to harness what , and this is the return of slavery, which, you see, the most democratic democracy cannot afford stop
  5. japs
    japs 1 November 2017 18: 33 New
    +4
    "The Russian military department has not yet published a report on the reasons for the collision of the Liman medium-range reconnaissance ship with a civilian vessel near the Bosphorus."
    Probably looking for the extreme. And he was at that time on the shore.
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 1 November 2017 18: 42 New
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    They have 60 destroyers, so such accidents will happen more than once !!!
  7. ImPerts
    ImPerts 1 November 2017 19: 04 New
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    Quote: The_Lancet
    You were mistaken. The warship is named after John Sidney McCain Jr. (1911 - 1981) and John Sidney McCain St. (1884 - 1945). They were USN admirals. Not pilots

    "... John Sydney McCain the third was born 29 on August 1936 of the year at the US Air Force Coco Solo near the city of Colon in Panama (at that time the US-rented Panama Canal Zone). McCain's father, John Sydney" Jack "McCain Jr. (1911 —1981), was a US naval officer, participant in World War II (as a submarine officer), who completed his service as a four-star admiral, was awarded the Silver and Bronze stars, his mother is Robert McCain, nee Wright (born in 1912). John McCain’s grandfather, John S. McCain, also had the rank of four stars admiral, was one of the founders of the carrier strategy of the US Navy, participated in the battles at the Pacific theater of operations of the Second World War ... ".
    Here is the relationship wink
  8. Simon
    Simon 1 November 2017 19: 09 New
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    They are very self-confident, they think that they will be “advanced” everywhere in the sea to give way! That's all. request Dumbness, and only laughing
  9. Kent0001
    Kent0001 1 November 2017 19: 50 New
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    From the explanatory watchman sailor: "... well, then I scored another jamb when on duty in the wheelhouse .... and then BABAHHHHH ....." and the senior (watch) officer (commander): "... well, I I just ran along the first path, leaned back in my chair, relaxed, and so BABAHHHH, all the buzz was broken off ... " laughing
  10. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 1 November 2017 21: 04 New
    +1
    Amers fleet is the largest in the world, they go a lot. And the human factor has not been canceled ... We brand new ships at mooring or even in the factory water area. Who knows, he understands what I'm talking about ... Why is this and who is to blame for us? From a lack of experience ... And that is the same human factor.
  11. fn111
    fn111 2 November 2017 00: 26 New
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    No, but what about the damned Russian hackers !! ??