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Poland remained without submarine fleet

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In Poland, the submarine Orel (the former Soviet EB-351) caught fire, which was in fact the last Polish fighting submarine, local media reported. The fire occurred even on September 27 during repair work on board. At the same time, the scale of destruction is not reported, it is only known that they are serious enough, reports "Sight" with reference to the publication of Trojmiasto.pl.


The fire was extinguished, but the submarine was eventually flooded. The military does not officially report anything about the fire. At the same time, the ship from 2014 was under repair. After nine months of repair work, he again suffered damage and returned to the pier.

Poland remained without submarine fleet


It is noted that a fire aboard the last Polish submarine may affect the decision to decommission it.

Information about the fire on the "Eagle" can also mean that the Polish submarine fleet ceases to exist at all, since other submarines do not have great combat value and are more suitable for museums, the Wyborcza newspaper believes.

Note that in October, after the German U35 submarine of the 212A project damaged the propeller blades during tests off the coast of Norway, the German Navy also remained without combat-ready submarines.
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  1. The black
    The black 1 November 2017 17: 11 New
    33
    Well, that’s nice ... what for a stiff boat ... it's not a toy
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 1 November 2017 17: 20 New
      42
      Moreover, the extent of the destruction is not reported, it is only known that they are quite serious,

      Let them learn from stubborn "bros" how to solve crimes and find the perpetrators. fellow
      1. Shura Perm
        Shura Perm 1 November 2017 17: 24 New
        +3
        Apparently they sold what they could, they burned the rest ...
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 1 November 2017 21: 55 New
          +4
          in October, after a German U35 submarine of project 212A damaged propeller blades during tests off the coast of Norway, the German Navy also remained without combat-ready submarines

          Well Poland, okay. And before, she only had Soviet submarines, she did not give new NATO, sooner or later it should have ended.
          BUT GERMANY !!! I am in shock. belay
          The Germans need help. Sell ​​them a couple of ours, since the United States does not give.
          1. Lganhi
            Lganhi 2 November 2017 00: 54 New
            +2
            Germany, as a defeated country, is still occupied by the United States, the American occupying forces did not leave Germany, as the Soviet troops left the GDR, only now the Americans are located on the territory of the GDR. Gorbach did so to the Yankees am . Therefore, Germany, as well as after the Versailles Peace, is forbidden to have a strong fleet, especially submarines, which rustled the allies and now the Yankees do not allow the FRG to have an underwater fleet. A strong ground army is welcome, because the Yankees are behind a puddle, and they have nothing to fear from the German army.
          2. uav80
            uav80 2 November 2017 07: 55 New
            0
            Norway to Pshekam in the early 2000s handed over 5 “Cobbens”, although in reality these boats are only suitable for museums since they were built in the 64-67 years of the last century ...
          3. Allitet
            Allitet 2 November 2017 12: 13 New
            0
            Sell ​​them something that we have left there with the USSR! How Americans sold to their English brothers during World War II 50 pieces of some kind of floating "junk" to fight with German submarines !!!
      2. Monarchist
        Monarchist 1 November 2017 17: 47 New
        +2
        You want to say that Vova is again!
      3. Juborg
        Juborg 1 November 2017 19: 44 New
        +1
        The campaign is the submarine that in 2016 collided with the Krasnodar diesel-electric submarine, where Russia was accused of a deliberate clash. The name is proud, and the end is inglorious.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 1 November 2017 21: 39 New
          +1
          It was under repair from the 14th .. And Krasnodar with a surface like. And not Polish is possible.
    2. cniza
      cniza 1 November 2017 17: 20 New
      +9
      But in E.S. and NATO, they do not need an army and navy.
      1. The black
        The black 1 November 2017 17: 27 New
        13
        Quote: cniza
        But in E.S. and NATO, they do not need an army and navy.

        Yes, they generally do not need brains ... smile
        1. cniza
          cniza 1 November 2017 17: 29 New
          10
          But what about the dream - the Commonwealth from sea to sea? lol
          1. Logall
            Logall 1 November 2017 17: 35 New
            24
            Quote: cniza
            But what about the dream - the Commonwealth from sea to sea? lol

            At Matserevich - from the sink to the toilet!
            1. cniza
              cniza 1 November 2017 17: 42 New
              +8
              Matserevich is them all laughing , with him a submarine fleet is not needed.
              1. Logall
                Logall 1 November 2017 17: 48 New
                13
                With him, and the brain is not needed, too! what
                1. cniza
                  cniza 1 November 2017 17: 50 New
                  +6
                  He has already taken it to them and is pulling on the American boot.
                  1. Logall
                    Logall 1 November 2017 17: 56 New
                    12
                    And they didn’t have time with these “chopiks”! yes
                  2. Jedi
                    Jedi 1 November 2017 18: 44 New
                    +7
                    Victor, Sasha! Are you attacking Antoha here ??? Yes, even without me? drinks
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 1 November 2017 21: 02 New
                      +4
                      Max, yes, we have a little bit of current, and so have we drinks
            2. Scoun
              Scoun 1 November 2017 19: 14 New
              +3
              Quote: Logall
              Quote: cniza
              But what about the dream - the Commonwealth from sea to sea? lol

              At Matserevich - from the sink to the toilet!

              Matserevich has a toilet bowl and a 2in1 sink. He cope with need there and washes his face.
              1. Logall
                Logall 1 November 2017 22: 39 New
                10
                And the drinker is there too! Otherwise, what makes him so tormented?
          2. Dart2027
            Dart2027 1 November 2017 19: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: cniza
            from sea to sea

            From sea to sea, but not a word about the fleet, so everything is in order.
          3. BMP-2
            BMP-2 1 November 2017 20: 18 New
            +1
            Well, if the dream is only "from" and "to" - ships are not needed. So let them flounder between the seas. laughing
          4. Abel
            Abel 2 November 2017 22: 13 New
            0
            From which sea? Laptev Sea?
        2. Partyzan
          Partyzan 1 November 2017 18: 06 New
          15
          Quote: Black
          Yes, they generally do not need brains ...

          why the brains at the fifth point?
      2. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 1 November 2017 17: 28 New
        19
        The German Navy was also left without combat-ready submarines.

        Arctic fox! Star-striped everyone was deprived of the right to self-determination, the right to the army and navy ..
        Even the "Hans" - the monsters of the submarine fleet, were no longer destiny, now, after shaving the fins, they will cut the fins with the Gauls and ..... Long live America!
        1. Logall
          Logall 1 November 2017 17: 37 New
          20
          Soon Eun will sail to them on a submarine, ask for sanctions hi
          1. cniza
            cniza 1 November 2017 17: 43 New
            10
            But he will come and ask ...
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 1 November 2017 18: 12 New
              +7
              Quote: cniza
              But he will come and ask ...

              but they won’t find him laughing
              1. Cutter
                Cutter 1 November 2017 18: 49 New
                +6
                I can’t understand, but how will this proud Poles be without anything? How is it not a submarine fleet? Something Matserevich is silent ... It is hoped that because of the "puddle" they will send, if that, and you can not be afraid of anything ... Well, well ...
                1. Partyzan
                  Partyzan 1 November 2017 18: 51 New
                  +6
                  Sanya hi these are richer - the Turks will sell, negotiations are ongoing, until they are voiced laughing
                  1. Cutter
                    Cutter 1 November 2017 19: 02 New
                    +6
                    Hello Volodya! hi Ahh, well then ... Fine, there’s a penny, why not buy it? laughing
                    1. Partyzan
                      Partyzan 1 November 2017 19: 20 New
                      +6
                      Quote: Cutter
                      Hello Volodya! hi Ahh, well then ... Fine, there’s a penny, why not buy it? laughing

                      yet - why not sell it - however, the bazaar laughing
                  2. Abel
                    Abel 2 November 2017 22: 14 New
                    +1
                    The Turks are German, 212
        2. Pirogov
          Pirogov 1 November 2017 17: 47 New
          +4
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          Arctic fox! Star-striped everyone was deprived of the right to self-determination, the right to the army and navy ..

          Poland’s army is serious, it’s stupid to underestimate the potential enemy, and as regards the Polish Navy, in my opinion, Poland simply does not need a serious fleet in the Baltic.
          1. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 1 November 2017 18: 02 New
            12
            Poland simply does not need a serious fleet in the Baltic.

            Yes, along the way they do not need the Baltic .....
            Judging by the Wehrmacht Weiss Polish campaign (1939), the seriousness of the Polish army is in doubt ...... I don’t think that Psheki made historical conclusions ...
            1. Pirogov
              Pirogov 1 November 2017 18: 15 New
              +6
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              Judging by the Wehrmacht Weiss Polish campaign (1939), the seriousness of the Polish army is in doubt

              You're not right . Poland resisted the Reich alone no less than France, England, Belgium, Holland combined and this despite the fact that the Red Army was still advancing from the east. I also do not like Poles, but this is not a reason to be not objective.
              1. Partyzan
                Partyzan 1 November 2017 18: 26 New
                +9
                the army of the Polish state conducted active hostilities from September 1, 1939 (against the Red Army - from September 17) to October 6, 1939
                France capitulated after 1 month and 11 days
                1. Pirogov
                  Pirogov 1 November 2017 19: 13 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Partyzan
                  France capitulated after 1 month and 11 days

                  Well, what am I wrong in? Poland alone opposed, the two superpowers 1 month and five days, and France with England and the company 1 month and 11 days. I wrote about this to Solomon that Poland should not be underestimated.
                  1. Partyzan
                    Partyzan 1 November 2017 19: 21 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Pirogov
                    and France with England and company

                    England capitulated too? request how I lagged behind recourse
                  2. avt
                    avt 1 November 2017 19: 47 New
                    +9
                    Quote: Pirogov
                    Well, what am I wrong in?

                    And you don’t need to read the alternative gistoria, and again, if you are going to read the real one, it is advisable to look at the dates. Firstly, Stalin brought troops into the territory in accordance with the protocol, which fully corresponded to the Curzon line, namely the eastern border of Poland cut by the Entente according to the results of the First World War; Secondly, Stalin, despite the calls of the Nazis, brought in troops when the Polish government fled the country and organized resistance practically ceased; And thirdly - even the fleeing government gave the order not to resist the troops of the USSR, and in general the USSR did not ANNOUNCE the war! So in his wet dreams of the greatness of the nobility of ambition
                    Quote: Pirogov
                    Poland alone opposed, two superpowers 1 month and five days

                    Well, in the repetitions of their stupidity by individuals.
                  3. Smog
                    Smog 1 November 2017 20: 57 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Pirogov
                    Poland alone opposed, two superpowers 1 month and five days

                    Yasha! Koreyba! It is you!? I did not recognize you in makeup ...
                    And the date of the surrender of England in World War II do not tell? Chet I forgot. Oh, this old age and sclerosis.
                    1. avt
                      avt 2 November 2017 11: 42 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Smog
                      And the date of the surrender of England in World War II do not tell? Chet I forgot. Oh, this old age and sclerosis.

                      From my sclerosis to yours. bully Well, England capitulated to Dunkirk and the British government ... emigrated to Britain directly to London, where it sat until the Nazis surrendered. bully
                  4. papas-57
                    papas-57 1 November 2017 21: 30 New
                    +1
                    "Poland alone opposed, the two superpowers 1 month and five days." The Red Army entered the territory of former Poland on September 17. Why ex? Yes, because the Polish government has already fled to Romania in full force. No government - no country.
                  5. Setrac
                    Setrac 1 November 2017 23: 53 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Pirogov
                    Poland alone opposed the two superpowers

                    What about two? Write to twenty-two, the paper will endure everything.
                  6. Mavrikiy
                    Mavrikiy 2 November 2017 05: 43 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Pirogov
                    Quote: Partyzan
                    France capitulated after 1 month and 11 days

                    Well, what am I wrong in? Poland alone opposed, the two superpowers 1 month and five days, and France with England and the company 1 month and 11 days. I wrote about this to Solomon that Poland should not be underestimated.

                    You can write to Solomon anything that wanders into your head, but this will not become true.
                    Poland was bleeding on the "eastern front", otherwise Germany would have sunk into the mud.
                    Poland: approx. 66 thousand killed 133 woundedGERMANY: 700 killed16 wounded
                    France: 96 killed 000 wounded GERMANY: 207 killed 000 wounded
                    The Polish company in Germany does not resemble a walk? For the same time period.
                    As for the “opposition of the TWO to the superpowers”, after two weeks of fighting, the Polish government fled, the army fell apart. Confrontation of the USSR: Poland: 3,5 killed 20 wounded and prisoners 000 USSR: 450000 killed1173 wounded. That is, the Poles stupidly perl zdavat. True, this did not save them. The Germans caught up with them in 2002 and shot.
              2. aries2200
                aries2200 1 November 2017 23: 58 New
                0
                it was then ... and now is another era of time
              3. CT-55_11-9009
                CT-55_11-9009 2 November 2017 09: 25 New
                +1
                Quote: Pirogov
                Poland resisted the Reich alone no less than France, England, Belgium, Holland combined and this despite the fact that the Red Army was still advancing from the east

                Poland resisted for two weeks, France for a month. Belgium and Holland were crushed faster than Poland, this is true. And what else, the Red Army fought with Poland - this is a discovery worthy of Shnobelevka.
            2. Black5Raven
              Black5Raven 1 November 2017 21: 57 New
              +1
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              Judging by the Wehrmacht Weiss Polish campaign (1939), the seriousness of the Polish army is in doubt ...

              The same can be said of the 1941/42 Red Army. Such huge losses in territories and manpower are also not a sign of military skill. All from the Germans completely seized. For their size, level of technology, industry, the Poles held fairly dignified.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 2 November 2017 00: 00 New
                +2
                Quote: Black5Raven
                The same can be said of the 1941/42 Red Army.

                Far from a similar ratio of Germans and Poles wax 10 to 9, the ratio of Germans to Russians 10 to 7 at the beginning of hostilities as a result, the Poles lost and the Russians won.
                Quote: Black5Raven
                For their size, level of technology, industry, the Poles held fairly dignified.

                You simply do not know about the "level, technology, etc." of the Polish army. saturated with resources and technologies from Western instigators, the Polish army at the beginning of hostilities was slightly inferior to the Red Army.
                1. Black5Raven
                  Black5Raven 2 November 2017 00: 33 New
                  0
                  Quote: Setrac
                  as a result, the Poles lost and the Russians won.

                  If the Union was the size of Poland, they would not have won. Or will you deny those catastrophic losses at the start of the war?
                  Quote: Setrac
                  slightly inferior to the Red Army.

                  And did the spacecraft outnumber Vermarcht in terms of the number of aircraft and tanks, did it help much in the initial period? To say that the level of Polish troops and Soviet was the same is wrong.
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 2 November 2017 21: 39 New
                    0
                    Quote: Black5Raven
                    If the Union was the size of Poland, they would not have won.

                    Damn, the Russians are to blame! Maybe they cut their fellow country ... at least to the Urals? Who is to blame for them? France wondered where to retreat - it did not help.
                    Quote: Black5Raven
                    Or will you deny those catastrophic losses at the start of the war?

                    On the other hand, if the USSR was smaller, then it would not have lagged so catastrophically with mobilization, there would simply be no defeat at the beginning of the war, if Russia had been smaller.
                    Quote: Black5Raven
                    And did the spacecraft outnumber Vermarcht in terms of the number of aircraft and tanks, did it help much in the initial period?

                    For a long time, everything has been counted and all myths have been refuted - it did not surpass the Wehrmacht with satellites in anything.
                    Quote: Black5Raven
                    To say that the level of Polish troops and Soviet was the same is wrong.

                    Why is this? The strength of the Polish army at the beginning of the war was almost 3 million bayonets.
            3. Abel
              Abel 2 November 2017 22: 14 New
              0
              Again tanks will be chopped with sabers in a dashing cavalry attack?
        3. weksha50
          weksha50 1 November 2017 18: 20 New
          +5
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          The German Navy was also left without combat-ready submarines.
          Arctic fox!


          This is strange ... It seems that they had 5 submarines of project 212A ... What happened to the others ??? request
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 2 November 2017 00: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: weksha50
            What happened to the rest ???

            Went in formation and caught on the same rock?
        4. San Sanych
          San Sanych 1 November 2017 18: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          The German Navy was also left without combat-ready submarines.

          Arctic fox! Star-striped everyone was deprived of the right to self-determination, the right to the army and navy ..
          Even the "Hans" - the monsters of the submarine fleet, were no longer destiny, now, after shaving the fins, they will cut the fins with the Gauls and ..... Long live America!

          if the "Hans" lost their submarine fleet, then where are the Poles to break laughing and in general, why do the Poles need a submarine fleet request perhaps, apart from patrol boats, they don’t need anything else, at least the Danes somehow do without submarines, and this power is still more marine than the Poles, in the sense of tradition laughing
          1. Partyzan
            Partyzan 1 November 2017 19: 46 New
            +4
            Quote: San Sanych
            in the sense of tradition

            red light district?
            1. San Sanych
              San Sanych 1 November 2017 20: 25 New
              0
              Quote: Partyzan
              Quote: San Sanych
              in the sense of tradition

              red light district?

              no, I'm in the sense of the fleet laughing if we talk about the Dutch, they have 4 submarines in service, the Danes as far as I know not a single one, although I don’t understand the Dutch, they probably also do not need these submarines, only an extra waste of money, especially considering that there are more ATS does not exist
              1. Partyzan
                Partyzan 1 November 2017 20: 42 New
                +5
                Quote: San Sanych
                although I don’t understand the Dutch

                put into the channels with red lights - exotic hi
                1. San Sanych
                  San Sanych 1 November 2017 21: 07 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Partyzan
                  Quote: San Sanych
                  although I don’t understand the Dutch

                  put into the channels with red lights - exotic hi

                  following the example of the British, who arranged a brothel on their submarines? laughingwell then yes laughing
              2. Karen
                Karen 2 November 2017 07: 16 New
                0
                The Dutch retain their sovereignty ... The term "evil empire" comes from them, not Reagan.
                True, sovereignty was preserved only by agriculture, but morale must be shown to the world ...
                1. Abel
                  Abel 2 November 2017 22: 15 New
                  0
                  Spirit is good, especially after cabbage with peas
        5. Partyzan
          Partyzan 1 November 2017 19: 44 New
          +4
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          Even the "Hans" - the monsters of the submarine fleet, were not destiny,

          nefig caravans PQ was stoke - they are vindictive hi
        6. Black5Raven
          Black5Raven 1 November 2017 21: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          Even the "Hans" - the monsters of the submarine fleet, were no longer

          Do you feel sorry for the German fleet? Yes, let them cut to health.
        7. uav80
          uav80 2 November 2017 08: 08 New
          0
          Already cut and shaved ...
          10.04.2017
          In the UK, the entire flotilla of multipurpose nuclear attack submarines failed. It doesn’t protect the maritime borders of the United Kingdom, the Sun reported on Friday, citing sources in the Kingdom’s Navy, that all seven nuclear submarines armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles are currently inoperative. "

          PS: for example, Russia takes only 4 place in the number of submarines, the first three are the DPRK, the USA and the PRC
      3. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 1 November 2017 17: 29 New
        +7
        Well now in Poland howl will start ... laughing

        But seriously, the Polish Navy, like Ukraine, is not needed .. US vassals and mongrel, cannon fodder in case of a serious conflict ...
        Let them rejoice that there will be no need to serve .. Serious money has been released in the budget.
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 1 November 2017 18: 14 New
          +6
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          Serious money freed up in the budget.

          and saw what? well you are my sadist laughing
        2. BMP-2
          BMP-2 1 November 2017 20: 43 New
          +3
          Well, why is the fleet not needed? At least one submarine, both Poland and Ukraine are simply obliged to have! In the era of color revolutions and Nazi covens, any state stability is an illusion. And when it is dispelled, a certain category of people who consider themselves to be a “state” has an acute and irresistible need to make legs. At this moment, it turns out that:
          a) a helicopter - this is for amateurs;
          b) an airplane, a car, a train - it’s terribly funny already at the first checkpoint, checkpoint or border;
          c) but the submarine is the most: imperceptibly, safely and quietly!
          So, following the once established Nazi tradition, the traditional migration of the "rulers of the world" to Latin America is simply inevitable, and without a submarine it is not possible! yes
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 1 November 2017 21: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: BMP-2
            but the submarine is the most: quietly, safely and quietly!

            It’s not worth the proud Poles, like any dogs, to hide from the eyes of the enemy! fellow Down with the weapon that shadows on pride we don’t want to have a submarine (ugh negative ), we only need knightly weapons, surface angry . Burn and sink unwanted iron - long live sailing fishing ketchups !!! good Hooray.... fellow
            1. BMP-2
              BMP-2 1 November 2017 22: 29 New
              +2
              Or like this! laughing Although, perhaps a fire on a boat is just a knightly-pansky decommunization in Polish. lol
        3. Kerensky
          Kerensky 1 November 2017 22: 25 New
          0
          Let them rejoice that there will be no need to serve .. Serious money has been released in the budget.

          That's how it is. But how can the staff be taught? Teams to cook? A wooden mock up?
      4. antivirus
        antivirus 1 November 2017 18: 09 New
        +1
        this is a joy for the usa - clean moorings, put your own, steal on credit.
        for 25 years the “new Poland” had enough of the Stalinist backlog!
        further Americans rule.
      5. Piramidon
        Piramidon 1 November 2017 18: 48 New
        0
        Quote: cniza
        But in E.S. and NATO, they do not need an army and navy.

        Well, overseas allies will throw something out of decommissioned.
        Neighboring neighbors are already asking the Turks not to cut the decommissioned submarines, but to transfer them.
    3. NIKNN
      NIKNN 1 November 2017 17: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: Black
      Well, that’s nice ... what for a stiff boat ... it's not a toy

      They could apply it only at the parade (well, not suicides), I think they will write off, saving in the budget (maintenance and service are excluded). I think the money will be sent to other weapons, so I don’t even know whether to rejoice or not ... request
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 1 November 2017 17: 30 New
        +3
        The submarine fleet is the prerogative of this state, and not this ...
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 1 November 2017 17: 37 New
          +4
          Quote: marlin1203
          The submarine fleet is the prerogative of this state, and not this ...

          Well, big boys play big boats, the rest look and rejoice, but they also want curious children ... smile
    4. Vend
      Vend 1 November 2017 17: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Black
      Well, that’s nice ... what for a stiff boat ... it's not a toy

      Half of Europe still use Soviet weapons. Well, they’d buy from the USA.
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 1 November 2017 18: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: Wend
        Half of Europe still use Soviet weapons. Well, they’d buy from the USA.

        there you need a lot more denyushek, and the states do not give out licenses for repairs - and this again - denyushka request
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 1 November 2017 18: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        Half of Europe still use Soviet weapons. Well, they’d buy from the USA.

        Yeah. The USSR handed out everything for free to those who had only blundered that it was "building socialism", and there weren’t any such people in the states.
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 November 2017 17: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: Black
      Well, that’s nice ... what for a stiff boat ... it's not a toy

      The fire was extinguished, but the submarine was eventually flooded. The military does not officially report anything about the fire. At the same time, the ship from 2014 was under repair. After nine months of repair work, he again suffered damage and returned to the pier.

      As in a joke about a fool and a crystal genital organ ... either break or cut.
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 1 November 2017 18: 55 New
        +5
        Quote: NEXUS
        the crystal genital organ ... will either break or cut itself.

        here it’s just one and the other - if it breaks, then it’ll be cut laughing
    6. Primoos
      Primoos 1 November 2017 17: 37 New
      +5
      Apple Super Power!
    7. ZVS
      ZVS 1 November 2017 17: 48 New
      +1
      Give the fool a glass member, he will either lose it or break it.
    8. Partyzan
      Partyzan 1 November 2017 17: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: Black
      what the stiff boat ... it's not a toy

      but now how to carry apples request
      1. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 1 November 2017 18: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: Partyzan
        but now how to carry apples

        And cigarettes ... a Soviet submarine could not stand such humiliation and self-destructed .. angry
        Rest in peace, and forgive me for how it all happened ..
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 1 November 2017 18: 35 New
          +5
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          I'm sorry that it all happened ..

          business however request
      2. San Sanych
        San Sanych 1 November 2017 19: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Partyzan
        Quote: Black
        what the stiff boat ... it's not a toy

        but now how to carry apples request

        through the Belarusian Sea to the Rostov Mountains? laughing
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 1 November 2017 19: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: San Sanych
          through the Belarusian Sea

          this is our inland sea - and they don’t do there drinks
          1. San Sanych
            San Sanych 1 November 2017 19: 24 New
            +1
            that's for sure, otherwise we will gouge their boats with shrimps laughing drinks
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 1 November 2017 19: 35 New
              +6
              Quote: San Sanych
              shrimp gored

              I have a fighting underwater cat - it will damage them and drown them laughing
    9. Kent0001
      Kent0001 1 November 2017 20: 22 New
      0
      Just like their twin Khokhlov. Submarines are not their topic, oh not them. Fat is there, apples are yes, and boats are for more serious uncles.
    10. Michael67
      Michael67 2 November 2017 10: 03 New
      0
      The senior lieutenant in a raincoat with a dagger with the call sign "Fire" is presented for an extraordinary military rank and state award.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 1 November 2017 17: 11 New
    +2
    This is of least interest to me. What is there about the state of emergency in Lyakhi ... this is my opinion.
  3. Smog
    Smog 1 November 2017 17: 15 New
    +8
    Abroad will help them ... or maybe it will not help ..... request
    1. cniza
      cniza 1 November 2017 17: 21 New
      +3
      Let them fall on a daisy. lol
      1. Smog
        Smog 1 November 2017 17: 25 New
        +7
        On the flower ..... scarlet ..... laughing
    2. Partyzan
      Partyzan 1 November 2017 19: 01 New
      +7
      Quote: Smog
      Abroad will help them ... or maybe it will not help ..... request

      Konstantin hi well, decide already - maybe or will help laughing and then a joke
  4. NKT
    NKT 1 November 2017 17: 17 New
    +2
    New joke - Polish submariners
    1. San Sanych
      San Sanych 1 November 2017 19: 12 New
      0
      Quote: NKT
      New joke - Polish submariners

      in the steppes of Mongolia laughing
  5. corporal
    corporal 1 November 2017 17: 18 New
    +2
    The German Navy was also left without combat-ready submarines.

    Do not understand. They rivet the whole world, don't they?
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 1 November 2017 20: 24 New
      0
      Grandmas first of all. And their older brother is guarding.
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 1 November 2017 17: 19 New
    +2
    This is not all the news. lol among other things, the Poles managed to break the glass h-flax - in three places at once! !! lol
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 1 November 2017 17: 20 New
    +4
    Now they, like the Ukrainians, have a score of zero zero on submarines !!! wassat
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 November 2017 17: 32 New
      +4
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Now they, like the Ukrainians, have a score of zero zero on submarines !!! wassat

      We write zero, one "went to mind" wassat
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 1 November 2017 17: 48 New
        +1
        Andrei hi -that that went to mind, decided to go to the bottom, forever! !!! wassat
  8. Sergey53
    Sergey53 1 November 2017 17: 25 New
    +3
    This is how lucky the Poles are. There is no boat, no submarine fleet, no need to budget for their maintenance. good
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 1 November 2017 17: 32 New
      +3
      Yeah, as per Kudrin. Kudrin needs to go to Poland for permanent residence.
  9. Alexey Makarych
    Alexey Makarych 1 November 2017 17: 27 New
    +1
    Yeah, now the Russians will definitely attack ...;)
    1. japs
      japs 1 November 2017 18: 13 New
      +5
      Russians from under the water are watching and waiting for the opportunity to attack. And how did the lords of their “Eagle” manage to cut their wings? Maybe they hope that they will be given mattresses in return for them? That is, with intent ...
  10. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 1 November 2017 17: 27 New
    0
    C'mon, not a single supply?
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 1 November 2017 20: 05 New
      0
      Quote: RUSOIVAN
      C'mon, not a single supply?

      Was in Poland travel. 1977 Do not believe it. If not in the city, then the main transport is a CAR with a horse, respectively. So much as there I have never seen such a transport.
  11. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 1 November 2017 17: 28 New
    +2
    Obviously Ukrainians-Zrobitchans did boat repairs. And they probably wanted to throw them on their grandmothers. It turned out in vain ...
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 1 November 2017 20: 26 New
      0
      Zrobitchites covered it with flammable stucco, just for this case.
  12. anjey
    anjey 1 November 2017 17: 28 New
    +1
    Poor Polish bonzes, with, God forbid, a world schucher, they will not start to escape from the European continent ...
  13. bk316
    bk316 1 November 2017 17: 30 New
    +5
    The German Navy was also left without combat-ready submarines.

    Well, the Poles submarine like a cow saddle, but the Germans ... Doenitz would know that this would be so, would ask the tribunal to be hanged.
    1. japs
      japs 1 November 2017 18: 17 New
      +7
      The German Minister of Defense, a gynecologist by training, she is more interested in the number of transgender, gay and pink women in the army ...
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 1 November 2017 20: 28 New
      +1
      In the years 1943-1944, by order of Karl Dönitz surrendered about one boat a day. That was the production.
  14. izya top
    izya top 1 November 2017 17: 31 New
    +1
    submarine "Eagle" (former Soviet Б-351)
    trust the logs hep glass-not break, so lose fool
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 1 November 2017 17: 50 New
      +1
      Izzy drinks hi - they were entrusted with more glass, especially since they would not have been able to burn! !! wassat
      1. izya top
        izya top 1 November 2017 18: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Herkulesich
        especially since they would not be able to burn!

        mean cut yourself request
  15. bald
    bald 1 November 2017 17: 34 New
    0
    It’s awesome of course. Well, yellowness is tired. IT WILL BE, AND I WILL GO TO THE CURRENT.
  16. Sergei75
    Sergei75 1 November 2017 17: 36 New
    +1
    ABOUT! Ukrainian club is expanding, new members have approached.
  17. Berkut24
    Berkut24 1 November 2017 17: 36 New
    +3
    I would like to listen to the comments of the Polish Minister of Defense. What will anneal this time?
    1. japs
      japs 1 November 2017 18: 21 New
      +5
      Matsa Revich will say that he heard the sound of a gap. True, it is not clear what and what, but it is clear that the Russians ...
      1. NKT
        NKT 1 November 2017 19: 26 New
        0
        The sound of the gap was immediately after the passage of the satellite of the Russian Federation.
      2. Berkut24
        Berkut24 1 November 2017 20: 19 New
        0
        True, it is not clear what and what, but it is clear that the Russians ...

        In short, they attacked, nuclear weapons, carry gas past our checkout, send 2 US armored divisions.
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 1 November 2017 20: 30 New
      0
      He will say that the Russian Federation is to blame: Stalin, Putin, the dispatcher from Smolensk is to blame in any way ..... the boat is former Soviet.
  18. WapentakeLokki
    WapentakeLokki 1 November 2017 17: 40 New
    +1
    Ukrainians do nothing without `` Zaporizhzhia '' beautifully behold here and Lyakhi, too, the Great Power (from mozh to mozh aga) .All is not all lost Shchlyakhta Great Brother from across the ocean will drive you his underwater device from the storage (such as the PL Gato 45-year or what else is not a pity) Ukrainians tried to breed the Turks on the submarine so you don’t plosh and you will
  19. Livonetc
    Livonetc 1 November 2017 17: 46 New
    +1
    Poland is not krajina.
    Everything is in order with the budget.
    Trickery rolls over.
    Milks both the European Union and the USA.
    And the army to them a damn.
    They understand that nobody needs them.
    So why splurge.
    Therefore, the main Bzdenek Sraček of the Polish army is furious.
    They do not take him seriously and their own.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 1 November 2017 17: 51 New
      +3
      "So why splurge" ////

      They are being spent. Moreover, they choose the most modern
      and effective weapons. And in reasonable, decent amounts.
      They have the largest land army of NATO. Even more German.
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 1 November 2017 20: 32 New
        +1
        Well? what's next?
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 1 November 2017 22: 02 New
          +1
          They have the concept of a "shallow" sea .. It is believed that Ball. the sea is shallow, and from satellites is visible to the bottom. But pl Krasnodar, it denied. wink
    2. japs
      japs 1 November 2017 18: 26 New
      +5
      True, Panam did not need an army, in the 45th, three Polish tankmen and a dog Berlin were taken, and the Russian, the fourth tanker, only helped ...
      1. polpot
        polpot 1 November 2017 22: 06 New
        0
        The dog was Russian and led or rather led, and so what the hell would they have taken with a Georgian
  20. rudolff
    rudolff 1 November 2017 17: 49 New
    +5
    Before the banter was arranged, they would have looked at the list of the Baltic Fleet submarines. We are not much better. Two Halibut 80s, Vyborg and Dmitrov - that's the whole submarine fleet. Dmitrov seems to have not returned from repair yet.
    1. Aleksandr_2
      Aleksandr_2 1 November 2017 18: 35 New
      +1
      The crew of the diesel submarine of the Baltic Fleet, Dmitrov, on October 25.10.2017, 1, began to carry out combat training tasks and worked out standards at sea, said Capt. XNUMXst Rank captain R. Martov, head of the information support department of the Baltic Fleet’s ZVO press service.
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 1 November 2017 18: 55 New
        +2
        So back. On the move, they have long been involved in the parade.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 1 November 2017 19: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: rudolff
      Before the banter was arranged, they would have looked at the list of the Baltic Fleet submarines. We are not much better.

      One hope is that after the sixth 636.3 for Pacific Fleet maybe (I would very much like) the next order will be for BF. Fortunately, the Admiralteys have accelerated so much that it takes about 2 years from bookmark to commissioning.
      And the “Eagle” really went black - just went out of repair, as soon as I had to get up - and only to drown while extinguishing the fire. sad
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 1 November 2017 21: 24 New
        +2
        Alexey RA, when this project was built in less than a year. It is difficult to say what will happen after the Pacific order. They scared everyone with Kalina, then somehow everything was quiet. But once again they announced the resuscitation of Lada and the continuation of the series. Although the headache is still experienced. HZ what will happen. On non-nuclear, we have a complete gag. Everything that they could have been squeezed out of the Halibut / Varshavyanka, but there isn’t much to replace. VNEU has not yet reached sea trials; there are no LIABs either. Amur 950 would be perfect for the Baltic, but ...
    3. Kent0001
      Kent0001 1 November 2017 20: 33 New
      0
      What should our submarine fleet in the Baltic do? Read the history of the Second World War and see our submarine losses in the Baltic region.
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 1 November 2017 21: 30 New
        +2
        If you read the history of the Second World War, then about the actions of submarines in the Baltic States in general, and not just about the losses of our submarines.
  21. Monarchist
    Monarchist 1 November 2017 17: 51 New
    +2
    Quote: cniza
    But what about the dream - the Commonwealth from sea to sea? lol

    Well, what will they dream on the shore, otherwise they are such "friends" that surface ships will be killed.
    In my opinion, they learn how to handle the fleet from horses
  22. APASUS
    APASUS 1 November 2017 17: 57 New
    +3
    Now Poland is lucky and very big! Scrap metal from the USA will be put into service and will be put into operation with pomp. At the same time, the amount of scrap transferred will be calculated as helping the country with 7-8 zeros. The Poles on this news will once more get the shores and begin to threaten Russia.
  23. ilkham77
    ilkham77 1 November 2017 18: 01 New
    0
    four submariners and a dog
  24. dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 1 November 2017 18: 09 New
    0
    Right now they will begin to squeak that we are here, they say, we are standing there on guard of the eastern borders of NATO, and now there is nothing to stand already .. In short, we are waiting for the amers in the Baltic
  25. Altona
    Altona 1 November 2017 18: 29 New
    +1
    The Polish lords are on the right Ukrainian path. Good luck to them in this difficult way! laughing laughing
  26. polpot
    polpot 1 November 2017 18: 47 New
    +1
    Poland is a country which even in the better times for itself of the 17th century did not represent what it was like as a sea power, although it owned a large coast of the Baltic, apparently a mentality such as that of rabid dogs is afraid of water
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 1 November 2017 20: 36 New
      0
      Poland power? Sounds like an anecdote. Poland, in principle and always, did NOT represent ANYTHING (for those around it).
  27. sir_obs
    sir_obs 1 November 2017 18: 54 New
    0
    It was necessary to try
  28. Machete
    Machete 1 November 2017 18: 55 New
    0
    They do not need submarines.
    Not apples on them across the border to carry?
  29. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 1 November 2017 19: 09 New
    +1
    Poles should rejoice; it is the decommunization of Soviet legacy in action. laughing
  30. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 1 November 2017 19: 20 New
    0
    GDP stub on a ballistic trajectory accidentally threw 100%
  31. gromoboj
    gromoboj 1 November 2017 19: 23 New
    +1
    "They managed to put out the fire, but the submarine was eventually flooded."

    Those. put out by drowning. Resourcefully.
  32. Simon
    Simon 1 November 2017 19: 30 New
    0
    Oh! How will NATO fight against a hostile Russia !? belay crying
  33. Simon
    Simon 1 November 2017 19: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: dedBoroded
    Right now they will begin to squeak that we are here, they say, we are standing there on guard of the eastern borders of NATO, and now there is nothing to stand already .. In short, we are waiting for the amers in the Baltic

    And, what to expect amers, they are already there! hi
  34. Old26
    Old26 1 November 2017 19: 59 New
    +3
    Quote: Solomon Kane
    Even the "Hans" - the monsters of the submarine fleet, were not destiny, now,

    Why do you think so? Because of what the author wrote? And where the author lost 5 more German boats, namely U-31. U-32. U-33. U-34. U-36 ??

    Quote: Cutter
    I can’t understand, but how will this proud Poles be without anything? How is it not a submarine fleet? Something Matserevich is silent ... It is hoped that because of the "puddle" they will send, if that, and you can not be afraid of anything ... Well, well ...

    And the "proud Poles" have never had a submarine fleet by and large. I don’t presume to judge Polish submarines of WWII times, but the maximum that they had as part of the ATS was 4 project 613 boats transferred in the mid-60s, in the mid 80s they received 4 project 2 boats (decommissioned in 641 and 2001) and one of this project 2003. So we can talk about the submarine fleet with a big stretch
  35. mavrus
    mavrus 1 November 2017 20: 07 New
    +4
    Quote: Pirogov
    Quote: Solomon Kane
    Judging by the Wehrmacht Weiss Polish campaign (1939), the seriousness of the Polish army is in doubt

    You're not right . Poland resisted the Reich alone no less than France, England, Belgium, Holland combined and this despite the fact that the Red Army was still advancing from the east. I also do not like Poles, but this is not a reason to be not objective.

    Yeah ... On the tenth day of the war (a week before the "invasion" of the spacecraft), the whole Polish government and the commander in chief disappeared ... Polish soldiers randomly retreating to the east turned out to be Lesser (Western Ukraine and Belarus) ... They are hungry, deprived of any supplies began to enter into conflict with the local population, who rightly considered the Poles to be occupiers. So the "most active military operations" were carried out by the Polish military precisely there, with the Ukrainian peasants.
    And when the spacecraft entered this territory on September 17.09.39, XNUMX (and the Polish government did not declare war on the Soviet Union) most of the Polish soldiers surrendered without any resistance, now our commanders had the main headache to ensure the safety of the Poles from the revenge of local residents ... were injured and among the Red Army, trying to protect the Poles from lynching.
    So ... if you want to be objective, then do not forget to indicate this. And then the Poles, not only that for themselves such a dream at least plugged in ears, so also we must believe in all this.
    And then on the next first September, the Poles will still come up with some kind of tale, as they alone defeated Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union ...
  36. Vita vko
    Vita vko 1 November 2017 20: 20 New
    0
    It is hoped that the leadership of Russian defense enterprises and their "effective" managers will not complete the operation of illegally supplying Poland with spare parts for repairs.
  37. maw
    maw 1 November 2017 20: 24 New
    0
    Oh damn it! But what about "from mozh to mozh" now? repeat
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 2 November 2017 04: 58 New
      0
      Quote: maw
      Oh damn it! But what about "from mozh to mozh" now? repeat

      Well, actually, on foot, in any other way.
  38. SOFA
    SOFA 1 November 2017 20: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Solomon Kane
    The German Navy was also left without combat-ready submarines.

    Arctic fox! Star-striped everyone was deprived of the right to self-determination, the right to the army and navy ..
    Even the "Hans" - the monsters of the submarine fleet, were no longer destiny, now, after shaving the fins, they will cut the fins with the Gauls and ..... Long live America!

    Gross Admiral Dönitz there has already twisted in a coffin. He would have seen what the mighty once-submarine fleet of the Reich turned into ....
  39. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 1 November 2017 21: 10 New
    +4
    Yes, and God be with her. Survive the Poles and without submarines. Save money. Do not die in general.
  40. xomaNN
    xomaNN 1 November 2017 21: 13 New
    0
    The white submarines covered the last submarine, in Ukraine the submarine Zaporizhia sailed to Sevastopol. The trend, however ... laughing
  41. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 1 November 2017 21: 29 New
    0
    Note that in October, after the German U35 submarine of the 212A project damaged the propeller blades during tests off the coast of Norway, the German Navy also remained without combat-ready submarines.
    But they were trendsetters, so to speak.
  42. sergo1914
    sergo1914 1 November 2017 21: 35 New
    +2
    A suspicious birch log with the inscription "Vova was here" was found near the pier.
  43. faterdom
    faterdom 1 November 2017 22: 52 New
    +1
    Well, Ukraine has overtaken Poland by submarines. This is overwhelming, definitely!
  44. Eurodav
    Eurodav 1 November 2017 23: 21 New
    0
    How did Mocharevich not blame Russia?
  45. Kunica
    Kunica 2 November 2017 00: 25 New
    0
    It’s sad, things are going on ahead of our submarine fleet’s attack on Ukraine. Again, Americans for all puff.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 2 November 2017 00: 49 New
      +1
      Marten Today, 00:25 New
      It’s sad, things are going on ahead of our submarine fleet’s attack on Ukraine. Again, Americans for all puff.

      ... they, in general, were not cheerful ... but the mericatos, at best, junk stuff ...
  46. AID.S
    AID.S 2 November 2017 00: 30 New
    0
    They need to send a welding machine and electrodes, weld it to the pier, so as not to drown.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 2 November 2017 00: 46 New
      0
      AID.S Today, 00:30 PM New
      They need to send a welding machine and electrodes, weld it to the pier, so as not to drown.

      ... you don’t "send" brains ....
  47. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 November 2017 00: 45 New
    0
    ... and what the Poles eyeliner ... angry
  48. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 November 2017 04: 54 New
    +1
    Polish submarine fleet completely ceases to exist.
    The German Navy was also left without combat-ready submarines.

    Plague on both of your houses?
    We are waiting for a similar infection at the British Navy.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 2 November 2017 07: 47 New
      0
      What aircraft carrier will be sold to China?
  49. anjey
    anjey 2 November 2017 07: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: Pirogov
    Quote: Partyzan
    France capitulated after 1 month and 11 days

    Well, what am I wrong in? Poland alone opposed, the two superpowers 1 month and five days, and France with England and the company 1 month and 11 days. I wrote about this to Solomon that Poland should not be underestimated.

    I don’t know how actively the Poles fought against the Red Army in 1939, I think it’s insignificant and small-town, because the Germans completely took large cities like Brest and Lvov, the official government of Poland, together with the gold reserve, was already in Romania by September 17, and the Germans were under an agreement departed from the line of demarcation of troops giving up previously captured Polish cities ...
  50. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 2 November 2017 08: 53 New
    0
    Desovetization is in full swing !?