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MEP: I'm not sure that through 5 years Ukraine will remain in its current borders

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Kiev is faced with a large number of problems that the current authorities are not able to resolve, and if the country remains in the current borders in 5 years, it can be considered a good result, InoTV statement of MEP Yana Toom.




I believe that if in five years Ukraine will remain within these boundaries, then this is good. But I do not believe it,
said Toom.

Apparently, the Donbass will remain part of Ukraine, there is no doubt that they will eventually stay there. Will they get some kind of autonomy ... but somehow agree. Crimea during my life will not become part of Ukraine, that's for sure. And I believe that during the life of my children and grandchildren,
she added.

According to the EP deputy, “an unprecedented scale of corruption in Ukraine will for a long time prevent the creation of a functioning state in the country”. She believes that at the present time “Ukraine is ruled by oligarchs who cannot agree among themselves”.

Meanwhile, the politician did not rule out that Russia is preparing the ground for reaching a compromise with Ukraine on the Crimea. In her opinion, this is indicated by the absence of a harsh reaction of the Russian leadership to the statement by Ksenia Sobchak, who announced her intention to run for the presidential election and called the Crimea part of Ukraine “from the point of view of international law”.

If you look at the laws, then we know that some were imprisoned for saying that the Crimea is part of Ukraine. After all, this can be seen as an undermining of the territorial integrity of Russia. And in the case of Sobchak it did not work. Does this mean that it is now officially allowed in Russia to say that the Crimea is part of Ukraine, or — another idea of ​​it — that we need a second referendum in the Crimea. Maybe she will be allowed to slightly open up this topic in order to somehow legitimize this “Crimean case” somehow in hindsight through a second referendum,
explained Toom.

However, Toom acknowledges that “even if Moscow is preparing the ground for an agreement with Kiev, such a deal cannot be concluded with the current president of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko.”
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  1. Logall
    Logall 1 November 2017 16: 22 New
    22
    What a deal there could be, When there was a will of the people!
    I also found someone to refer to, Sobchak ... But pasaran! Liberals will not pass !!! `` across the bridge '', at least ...
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 1 November 2017 16: 27 New
      +3
      On November 1, 1939, at the 5th session of the USSR Armed Forces, Western Ukraine was accepted into the USSR ..
      Law of the USSR “On the incorporation of Western Ukraine into the USSR, with its reunification with the Ukrainian SSR”
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 1 November 2017 16: 30 New
        +9
        Europe will gladly tear Ukraine to pieces. Hungarians, Poles do not hide the desire to tear land from Ukraine. To those who are on a steam train I recall the fate of Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia. These were European countries and those were gone. The Czechs and Slovaks parted peacefully, but parted. Yugoslavia divided the war.
        And what is Ukraine? Who the fuck is needed in this form and within these boundaries ???
        In fact, only Moscow is the guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine. It seems unlikely, but it is.
        1. cniza
          cniza 1 November 2017 16: 41 New
          +3
          But why did the Estonian deputy launch this information?
          1. maxim947
            maxim947 1 November 2017 16: 45 New
            +3
            Yes, she’s just Cap laughing , such a time and put everything in its place. And the "horse" dragged here, as a kind of indicator.
            If we look at the laws, we know that some went to jail for saying that Crimea is part of Ukraine.[i] [/ i] How is it? looked the law and to prison ?? And where are the last names?
          2. Stas Snezhin
            Stas Snezhin 1 November 2017 17: 15 New
            +2
            That’s all, now this aunt will be banned from entering Ukraine ..))
          3. The black
            The black 1 November 2017 17: 15 New
            +3
            Quote: cniza
            But why did the Estonian deputy launch this information?

            But who will understand them, miserable ... you will finish as in a movie .... well, right exactly about these stubborn "Head is a dark subject and cannot be investigated" laughing
        2. The comment was deleted.
        3. japs
          japs 1 November 2017 16: 53 New
          +7
          The only guarantee of the existence of 404, paradoxically, is the Russian Federation.
          If the liberals manage to ruin Russia, then automatically the 404 will soon be torn to pieces. Valtsman understands this. But dill just wait for this.
          They are all united, "at least a scarecrow, at least a carcass, but to Geyropu!" Mass insanity.
          Now they pretend to be migrants from Syria, Iraq, even the black Vasya, just to get social benefits and help and live in Europe without doing anything.
          Units have achieved this, but when will there be a million? There will be a bummer and a tantrum: "For scho111?".
          Epic dolby-oyasher.
        4. volodya
          volodya 1 November 2017 17: 01 New
          10
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Europe will gladly tear Ukraine to pieces. Hungarians, Poles do not hide the desire to tear land from Ukraine

          Ukraine is climbing into Europe, who needs them there? They need the land of Ukraine there! The Poles did not forget the Volyn massacre, and the Ukrainians have already forgotten everything!
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 1 November 2017 17: 22 New
            +3
            At the beginning of the twentieth century, Lviv was in the Russian Empire. Only after the collapse of the Empire, the Poles began to gondobil "their" country. At the same time, Ukraine emerged in parallel with Poland. All these are fragments of our country - the Russian Empire.
            Sir, the school is crying for you. hi
            1. volodya
              volodya 1 November 2017 18: 00 New
              +3
              Quote: Vladimir16
              At the beginning of the twentieth century, Lviv was in the Russian Empire. Only after the collapse of the Empire, the Poles began to gondobil "their" country. At the same time, Ukraine emerged in parallel with Poland. All these are fragments of our country - the Russian Empire.
              Sir, the school is crying for you. hi

              My dear, yes, you dumbbell! . 1921 is the beginning of the twentieth century!
        5. Standard
          Standard 1 November 2017 17: 40 New
          0
          Quote: Vladimir16
          only Moscow is the guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine. It seems unlikely, but it is.

          And the guarantor of the independence of the Ukrainian SSR.
          Another leadership of the Russian Federation would have long ago recalled its “recognition of independence,” and returned the entire territory of the former USSR as a historical metropolis. And then - Ukraine in its native western borders.
          And the all-Russian referendum on "kick in the ass" for the newly emerged outskirts in normal European borders.

          But Putin is not up to imperial lands.
      2. Shura Perm
        Shura Perm 1 November 2017 17: 27 New
        +1
        Sluts in power squander everything in a quiet ...
    2. Vend
      Vend 1 November 2017 16: 29 New
      +3
      I believe that if in five years Ukraine will remain within these boundaries, then this is good. But I do not believe it,
      So section, it’s only a matter of time. Europe is slowly revealing its cards.
      1. Logall
        Logall 1 November 2017 16: 40 New
        12
        Quote: Wend
        Section means

        No, this is a “divorce,” as they said in the nineties!
        Divorced Ukraine as Indians! But not with beads, but with cookies ...
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 1 November 2017 18: 58 New
          +5
          Sash, no later than today in the morning, Leo Lolek I quoted this news. Here's how not to respect such a person? good
      2. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 1 November 2017 18: 05 New
        +6
        Quote: Wend
        I believe that if in five years Ukraine will remain within these boundaries, then this is good. But I do not believe it,
        So section, it’s only a matter of time. Europe is slowly revealing its cards.

        There will be no current section (if only the Westerners will be thrown at the mercy of Poland) ..
        Ukraine is too closely connected with Russia (kindred), and Kiev is generally a SACRED for the Orthodox! The main thing in this matter is not to rush, which Putin does .. Well, God forbid, everything will work out. soldier
        1. Vend
          Vend 1 November 2017 18: 10 New
          +3
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          Quote: Wend
          I believe that if in five years Ukraine will remain within these boundaries, then this is good. But I do not believe it,
          So section, it’s only a matter of time. Europe is slowly revealing its cards.

          There will be no current section (if only the Westerners will be thrown at the mercy of Poland) ..
          Ukraine is too closely connected with Russia (kindred), and Kiev is generally a SACRED for the Orthodox! The main thing in this matter is not to rush, which Putin does .. Well, God forbid, everything will work out. soldier

          They will divide Western Ukraine, the Hungarians in Transcarpathia will be born, and the main part will be given to Russia.
          1. Barshchik-M
            Barshchik-M 1 November 2017 18: 15 New
            +3
            Quote: Wend
            They will divide Western Ukraine, the Hungarians in Transcarpathia will be born, and the main part will be given to Russia.

            Well, they won’t give it back, but they themselves will come to us .. Perebolev, ragged, robbed and humble ..! The goal is .. Well, you still have to clean it up for the future. heh heh
            1. Vend
              Vend 1 November 2017 18: 18 New
              +2
              Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
              Quote: Wend
              They will divide Western Ukraine, the Hungarians in Transcarpathia will be born, and the main part will be given to Russia.

              Well, they won’t give it back, but they themselves will come to us .. Perebolev, ragged, robbed and humble ..! The goal is .. Well, you still have to clean it up for the future. heh heh

              They will give in the sense of the West to cross and stop being underfoot.
              1. Barshchik-M
                Barshchik-M 1 November 2017 18: 23 New
                +4
                Quote: Wend
                They will give in the sense of the West to cross and stop being underfoot.

                And this is the main thing, and there we will figure it out "Who sent whom and who will answer for the bazaar .." laughing
            2. weksha50
              weksha50 1 November 2017 19: 17 New
              0
              Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
              Well, you still have to clean it up for the future. he he


              Vital, again repainted ??? laughing
              You cannot hide from the keen eye of VO, especially with a leaky helmet - a repeat ... yes hi
              1. Barshchik-M
                Barshchik-M 1 November 2017 19: 27 New
                +5
                Quote: weksha50
                Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
                Well, you still have to clean it up for the future. he he


                Vital, again repainted ??? laughing
                You cannot hide from the keen eye of VO, especially with a leaky helmet - a repeat ... yes hi

                And I don’t hide too much George .. wink I am not particularly rude (taught a long time ago ..), I just write what I think and EVERYTHING!
                Guys will understand ..
      3. weksha50
        weksha50 1 November 2017 19: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Wend
        So section, it’s only a matter of time. Europe is slowly revealing its cards.


        The section is in the air very clearly ... There is nothing to open the cards ...
        Only Estonia and its deputies - well, far from all of Europe ... laughing
        PS And they will take to themselves-the remains, only after Russia takes its own, according to historical law, land ...
        Something like that...
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    4. Karaul73
      Karaul73 1 November 2017 17: 31 New
      0
      You won’t be asked. As they say, it will be so. There will be another mnogohodovochka.
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 1 November 2017 16: 23 New
    +3
    Three years passed, and the Eurotatupeds finally tied ukroinu and corruption together! !! wassat And what will happen in a couple of years, the Nazis will be called Nazis? ?? recourse
    1. Logall
      Logall 1 November 2017 16: 27 New
      11
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Nazis will be called Nazis? ??

      What kind of Nazis are they? When they dance to the tune of a world rabble!
      This is a herd of corrupt Russophobes !!!
  3. NIKNN
    NIKNN 1 November 2017 16: 23 New
    +4
    And in the case of Sobchak, this did not work.
    laughing Where is her? To the stud farm? ... It wouldn’t be bad, of course, in "house-2" for life ... but there (in house 2) have their own laws, a non-governmental organization ... request
    1. Logall
      Logall 1 November 2017 16: 30 New
      10
      How do you know their laws? - the question begs itself ...
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 1 November 2017 16: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: Logall
        How do you know their laws? - the question begs itself ...

        Is it 2 in the house? As the reaction of the population to this masterpiece suggests itself ... laughing
        1. corporal
          corporal 1 November 2017 17: 13 New
          +6
          Quote: NIKNN
          Somehow, according to the reaction of the population to this masterpiece

        2. weksha50
          weksha50 1 November 2017 19: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: NIKNN
          Is it 2 in the house? Somehow, according to the reaction of the population to this masterpiece itself suggests itself ..


          Here a certain fact surprises me all the time ... Of my acquaintances, not a single one will positively respond to House-2 ... But laughter breaks through me: how can one speak negatively about this program if you do not watch it at all? This, incidentally, applies to me ... Somehow I tried a million years BC to see the beginning of this program, and since then the attitude towards it has been negative ...
          But what am I doing? Moreover, if the population had not watched, the transmission would have been covered ... recourse request
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 1 November 2017 19: 26 New
            +3
            Quote: weksha50
            But what am I doing? Moreover, if the population had not watched, the transmission would have been covered ...

            Well, everybody watched at least a couple of times, besides I know the fans of this masterpiece ... A program for a certain age society (usually female). If you analyze carefully, it is clear that not the worst psychologists worked on this work of art, but when a person does not belong to the group for which the transfer is intended, of course, this madhouse makes him somewhat different impressions ... smile
  4. Moonsund
    Moonsund 1 November 2017 16: 25 New
    +4
    can fantasize in the subjunctive mood as much as desired, Crimea as part of the Outskirts will not see either this generation, or all subsequent ones. It’s time for the Afro-deputies to calm down and calmly go home: men to their men, European deputies to their women. They will not have any "children and grandchildren"
    1. japs
      japs 1 November 2017 17: 08 New
      +5
      With such a government as it is now in the Russian Federation, they will have children. Our children, taken from Russian parents and transferred (sold) to them for education (corruption).
      This is juvenile law and justice.
      1. bk316
        bk316 1 November 2017 17: 20 New
        +5
        Our children

        Your children? Do you travel with your children? How much are you selling?
  5. izya top
    izya top 1 November 2017 16: 28 New
    +3
    to the peacemaker this zradnitsa am
  6. KVashentcev
    KVashentcev 1 November 2017 16: 34 New
    0
    How many predictions have already been made regarding the boundaries of this misunderstanding! The next one is 5 years. Will come true? I think it will be within its current borders as long as it is a stick poked by a Russian bear. And it will cease to be when it is no longer necessary. The question is when will it fall away? Obviously not in 5 years ...
  7. Livonetc
    Livonetc 1 November 2017 16: 45 New
    +2
    The paradox is that the longer the coupist Ukraine agonizes, the more problems of the West are revealed.
    The West is increasingly realizing that the East Europeans have a yoke on their neck.
    And Ukraine is a basin with cement on her legs.
    And this situation is positive for Russia.
    Of course, Ukrainians feel sorry, but each is himself a blacksmith of his own happiness.
  8. Sergey53
    Sergey53 1 November 2017 17: 16 New
    0
    It turns out that almost everyone already thinks so.
  9. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 1 November 2017 17: 47 New
    +4
    That pester Ksyusha! She wants to repeat the referendum, so let her pay for organization and conduct from her considerable pocket, and special "observers" will fix the whole movement and pick up the necessary Criminal Code.
    1. CAT BAIYUN
      CAT BAIYUN 1 November 2017 22: 33 New
      +4
      Good idea. But it will not spend its money - not that breed ....
      And it's time to put her in only one place - in a psychiatric hospital. On a compulsory course ... such days for 48 ..... antipsychotics. So that she would have two main dreams in her life:
      1. crawl to the toilet
      2. crawl out of the toilet ...
      Or one .. Anyone of her choice.
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 1 November 2017 18: 10 New
    +1
    The author launched such a "duck", there is simply not even a hint of the reality of the information.
    Agree with Ukraine on the Crimea.
    Can I negotiate with forge?
    What issues can be resolved when the country has Makhnovism.
    Why did this analyst decide that the problems of recognition of Crimea can be solved by a simple referendum? And the very last question on this topic will be completely unexpected for the author, how can Russia and Ukraine negotiate, the US does not negotiate with Syria or the DPRK, and not at all because they cannot, it’s just that the status of the countries is different.
    Negotiations with Ukraine mean for Russia a loss and political weakness, since they began to agree with the country that it was obviously weak! Our liberals, led by Sobchak, are trying to play this idea on us.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 1 November 2017 19: 25 New
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      Our liberals, led by Sobchak, are trying to play this idea on us.


      This idea (negotiations between Russia and Ukraine on the Donbass directly) is trying to play the US, Germany and France, all the while trying to make Russia a party to the conflict ...
  11. Egorovich
    Egorovich 1 November 2017 18: 47 New
    +5
    5 years is a lot for Khokhloshtat. It will fly away much earlier. Her geyropeytsy swallow in pieces.
  12. weksha50
    weksha50 1 November 2017 19: 04 New
    0
    "If you look at the laws, then we know that some went to prison for saying that Crimea is part of Ukraine. This can be seen as undermining the territorial integrity of Russia "...

    Um ... why don't I know? Did you miss some performance?
    Announce the list, please ...
    And what kind of deal can we talk about? Even with our liberal government ??? request
  13. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 1 November 2017 19: 51 New
    0
    Everything in the geyropa is where everyone dreams of how to divide this under-state into FABULOUS pieces. Whole Ukraine will not be digested. For example, everything worked out with Yugoslavia, and they want the same with a decree. True, then something will depart for Russia, but this doesn’t really bother anyone. The only one who wants "territorial integrity" is the pind.osnya and a herd of pri.urks in Ukraine itself.
  14. private person
    private person 1 November 2017 19: 55 New
    +3
    About three or four years ago, there was information that Putin the godfather Ksyusha Sobchak, that is, baptized her in the church, I don’t know, maybe stories and maybe not. Otherwise, what can explain the permissiveness of this secular bl ***.
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 1 November 2017 23: 06 New
      0
      But didn’t Vladimir Vladimirovich carry a suitcase behind her priest?
  15. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 1 November 2017 22: 28 New
    +4
    and this indicates the absence of a sharp reaction of the Russian leadership to the statement of Ksenia Sobchak

    From, it turns out by what criteria opinions are being created about what Russia was going to do ...
    Kapets!
    Horse! Be proud! Now you are not a horse, but, directly, a barometer of Russia's intentions !!! laughing
  16. LeonidL
    LeonidL 2 November 2017 03: 44 New
    +1
    Really! Why save it at all if its very creation was a very big mistake?
  17. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 2 November 2017 04: 23 New
    0
    Everything goes according to "our scenario" !!! Power will be seized by "thieves-sawers" with a highly-rated president.
  18. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 2 November 2017 10: 07 New
    0
    There can be no deal in the Crimea.