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Colonel-General Sergei Surovikin to become commander-in-chief

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The commander of the Russian grouping of troops in Syria, Sergei Surovikin, will take up the duties of the commander-in-chief of the VKS. He will be the first combined-arms general to lead this type of troops, but for the time being he will remain in Syria due to the lack of certainty about his successor, reports Kommersant.


Colonel-General Sergei Surovikin to become commander-in-chief


According to Kommersant, the General Staff planned to appoint the commander of the airborne forces Andrei Serdyukov as the head of the grouping in the SAR, but he is now recovering from a car accident. Sources claim that this candidate is still a priority, but his trip will depend entirely on his health.

Earlier, newspaper sources noted that Surovikin’s new appointment should be regarded as “rewarding for decent service in Syria: having led the group in March 2017, he was able to qualitatively increase the level of interaction of ground forces, aviation, Air defense and space grouping. "

Taking into account the experience of the general (he headed the main operational department of the General Staff, was the chief of staff of the Central Military District, commanded the Eastern Military District) "leading a new type of troops should not be for him some kind of revelation," one of the publication’s interlocutors is convinced.

According to the newspaper, Surovikin should formally take up the new duties of November 1. However, he will remain in Syria until the question of his successor is finally resolved.
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  1. xetai9977
    xetai9977 1 November 2017 12: 25
    19
    All the same, specialists must command the armed forces
    1. Finches
      Finches 1 November 2017 12: 31
      17
      Absolutely right! Pilots should be commanded by pilots, sailors - sailors ... But we from Ukraine laugh - the same garbage! With all due respect to GDP and Shoigu, but not military, unfortunately ... and their personnel decisions regarding the Armed Forces often raise questions from staff officers! Politicians - yes! Good men, but not military men - one KGB officer, the second road builder! But soon the military will not remain - the remaining military schools were so reformed and democratized that they began to look like Institutes of noble maidens, and not like men's training schools for the Army .. laughing
      I don’t take my 25 years of service, and for a long time I have been looking at everything that is happening from a philosophical point of view - I’ll better save my health! It is said that infantry will be in command of the flyers - so it should be so ... Now the flyers will find out what the barracks order and military discipline are all about "First thing, first thing, airplanes ...!" laughing
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 1 November 2017 12: 43
        18
        Quote: Finches
        Now the flyers will find out what the barracks order and military discipline are, and then they writhed out of themselves ...

        It was already when the regiments of the Air Defense Forces reassigned the missilemen ... there was no laughing matter, it was almost on alert in a sword belt and boots didn’t fly ..., they realized they returned to normal ... request
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 November 2017 12: 44
          +6
          Yes, in the subject I ...! hi
          1. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 1 November 2017 12: 48
            +6
            Eugene, welcome!
            There is another topic in full swing. The Commander-in-Chief has not yet begun his duties, but all funding for the videoconferencing programs has been frozen for more than a month. A revision is coming ...
            1. Finches
              Finches 1 November 2017 12: 53
              +4
              Alexey! hi
              This is another conversation - money there be healthy, there are clearly shadow schemes, but embezzlement and combat readiness are all different things and for this it is not necessary to put infantry to command the fliers!
              1. Reserve officer
                Reserve officer 1 November 2017 12: 58
                +7
                Eugene, yes, I’m afraid that under the banner of the fight against embezzlement, the combat readiness will suffer. When people come from outside, without knowledge of traditions and specifics, then their first thing is charters and accounting. Readiness goes by the wayside.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 1 November 2017 13: 05
                  +8
                  The position of the Commander-in-Chief is more political, but knowing the infantry, he must get into each bedside table and personally check the order in the capers and the dust on the helms ... And God forbid .... !!!! laughing
                2. badens1111
                  badens1111 1 November 2017 14: 17
                  +3
                  Quote: Reserve officer
                  Readiness goes by the wayside.

                  Leave these tales regarding Surovikin to young undergrowths who not only did not serve in the army, but who do not understand the level of knowledge that Sergey Vladimirovich has at all.
                  So those who have snout in fluff, even if they think where to go, to the bunks with a biscuit, or they themselves will run to give out everything they have rested.
                  As for the leadership, it’s not you, nor those who are talking about Surovikin who are incompetent, the academies didn’t finish well and, for example, they didn’t command the 42nd Guards.
                  1. Reserve officer
                    Reserve officer 1 November 2017 14: 24
                    +9
                    In our country, even a university teacher of Roman law can become a prime minister, and an ex-journalist can lead the defense industry.
                    Time will judge.
                    1. win
                      win 1 November 2017 14: 30
                      +6
                      And this is so everywhere!
                      In Germany, the Minister of Defense - gynecologist request
                      1. killganoff
                        killganoff 1 November 2017 16: 03
                        +2
                        Quote: Siegen
                        And this is so everywhere!
                        In Germany, the Minister of Defense - gynecologist request

                        In such circumstances, in Russia after Shoigu, a proctologist will be.
                    2. badens1111
                      badens1111 1 November 2017 15: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: Reserve officer
                      In our country, even a university teacher of Roman law can become a prime minister, and an ex-journalist can lead the defense industry.

                      You have who is in the prime ministers and ministers, it makes no difference to me, but you, not knowing either the person or his professional knowledge, try to judge in a question which ... well, in general, it is clear how it is estimated.
                      Time will judge, but not in your favor.
                      1. killganoff
                        killganoff 1 November 2017 16: 04
                        +1
                        Quote: badens1111
                        Quote: Reserve officer
                        In our country, even a university teacher of Roman law can become a prime minister, and an ex-journalist can lead the defense industry.

                        You have who is in the prime ministers and ministers, it makes no difference to me, but you, not knowing either the person or his professional knowledge, try to judge in a question which ... well, in general, it is clear how it is estimated.
                        Time will judge, but not in your favor.

                        It is not sad, but I do not agree with you.
                      2. Finches
                        Finches 1 November 2017 16: 05
                        +3
                        Excuse me, is he at the helm of a fighter, attack aircraft, BTA plane .... can fly?
                      3. badens1111
                        badens1111 1 November 2017 16: 43
                        +2
                        Quote: killganoff
                        It is not sad, but I do not agree with you.

                        In vain.
                        Quote: Finches
                        Excuse me, is he at the helm of a fighter, attack aircraft, BTA plane .... can fly?

                        The main thing that he can do is PLATFULLY plan the use of all arms and forces for the implementation of a particular operation.
                        Do you know how to do this?
                  2. Overlock
                    Overlock 1 November 2017 21: 25
                    +4
                    so who prevents him from serving in the combined army? With your recommendations, he can be entrusted to the Navy. Why not give it a try?
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 1 November 2017 21: 39
                      +1
                      Quote: Overlock
                      Why not try it?

                      You?
                      That's right, not worth it.
                      1. Overlock
                        Overlock 1 November 2017 22: 24
                        +5
                        Can't read? be careful. Firstly, I am not a general, secondly, there is another specialty, thirdly, there is no lawyer like you. You are tearing your ass for him. you and cards in hand
                      2. badens1111
                        badens1111 1 November 2017 23: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: Overlock
                        Firstly, I’m not a general, secondly, there’s another specialty,

                        Well, if not a military man, not a general, and in general have no idea about the service, why are you tearing something up there?
            2. SergeyZel
              SergeyZel 1 November 2017 13: 58
              0
              It's time to figure out where the money goes to create new weapons systems and military equipment for the aerospace forces. OCDs and NIRs begun during the Union still cannot be completed.
          2. figwam
            figwam 1 November 2017 13: 18
            +5
            He will become the first combined arms general to lead this type of troops.
            What nonsense! go nuts, and let the pilot command the tanks! and the airborne troops will obey the sailors!
          3. Rushnairfors
            Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 14: 27
            +2
            And we hoped .... SchA Seryoga will restore order; we sew shoulder straps on the shevretki
        2. creak
          creak 1 November 2017 13: 59
          +7
          Quote: NIKNN
          realized returned everything to normal ...

          The goal is nothing, movement is everything .. This principle has remained unshakable for many years - army aviation was removed from the command of the Army and included in the Air Force. War 08.08.08. highlighted another bossy nonsense - I had to return everything to square one. Such a reciprocating movement was with the teams of the Special Forces of the GRU ...
          Truly, stupidity is not a lack of mind, it is such a mind ... fool
          1. win
            win 1 November 2017 16: 18
            +4
            stupidity is not a lack of mind it's such a mind... fool

            In the morning I was riding a bus, thinking, and going out at my stop, on a machine I said loudly to everyone: “Goodbye.” Then it dawned that he had frozen stupidity, slowed down in the doorway and turned around, suddenly adding: “But, by the way, goodbye.”
            You should have seen them all jumping after me laughing bully
          2. Aleksandr_2
            Aleksandr_2 1 November 2017 16: 20
            +1
            again, air regiments will disperse and blind the air brigades and air divisions laughing the pilot should not fly, but he must march!
        3. venik
          venik 1 November 2017 14: 56
          +2
          Quote: NIKNN
          It was already when the regiments of the Air Defense Forces reassigned the missiles ... there was no laughing matter, it was almost on alert in a sword belt and boots didn’t fly ..., realized we were back to square one

          =========
          Yeah ..... In the “being” with the jacket of the SA “(RTV)”, the saying went with us: “Lord, Save me from“ my bosses ”(!), And from“ my subordinates, somehow ” I’ll "get myself off" myself !!!) ....
        4. not main
          not main 1 November 2017 21: 32
          +1
          Quote: NIKNN
          Quote: Finches
          Now the flyers will find out what the barracks order and military discipline are, and then they writhed out of themselves ...

          It was already when the regiments of the Air Defense Forces reassigned the missilemen ... there was no laughing matter, it was almost on alert in a sword belt and boots didn’t fly ..., they realized they returned to normal ... request

          Compared to AA, these are just trifles! A simple example: Barriers were installed before each helicopter parking! And this can be remembered all evening. But in fact ... I'm really sorry! Well, the general from infantry cannot command the cavalry!
      2. AlexVas44
        AlexVas44 1 November 2017 12: 54
        +9
        Quote: Finches
        .Now the flyers learn what the barracks order and military discipline are, then they writhed out of themselves ...


        They didn’t make anybody out of themselves, but the specifics!?!?!? I remember in the 70-80s stubbornly some general staffists tried to put epaulettes on the flight technical uniform. Like no subordination, you don’t understand who is with the key, who is with the carrier, who is pulling the hose, who is pulling a bomb on his navel. The mess. But about the barracks and boots, this is familiar, especially in air defense aviation. Are we not at all from this world? True, there may have been less senselessness, but there were enough understudies in the leadership.
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 November 2017 13: 03
          +4
          C'mon offended then! I'm loving laughing What to do if this is a stable stereotype of our navigators - where aviation begins, discipline ends! hi
          1. Rushnairfors
            Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 14: 33
            +5
            Well, in the sky we are disciplined, and we build walk in the sky, more beautiful than any infantry.
            1. Rushnairfors
              Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 14: 39
              +6
              Zyablitsev- I, too, loving. For tomorrow, hang up flights, I waved a bit, I went to VO- HERE AGAIN SUROVIKIN !!!!! I had to get the bubble out of grief, at the moment there are already less than half left, HAPPY !!!
        2. creak
          creak 1 November 2017 14: 20
          +3
          Quote: AlexVas44
          and there were enough doubles in the manual.

          So what - the more Oaks in the Army, the stronger the defense ...: wink
    2. iouris
      iouris 1 November 2017 13: 20
      +1
      VKS is a type of armed forces.
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 14: 40
        +3
        Come on? Seriously???
  2. The black
    The black 1 November 2017 12: 26
    +4
    ... the ukrokhuntikov land fleet commands, we have aviation .... and yet we are very similar in some ways smile
  3. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 1 November 2017 12: 29
    +1
    "Mahra" at the helm of the videoconferencing is another step towards moronism! Just by inflating your cheeks you can’t achieve anything. You need to thoroughly understand the intricacies of the videoconferencing. General management and administration alone cannot achieve the desired result. But it must be assumed that the guys from the Moscow Region "rummage" in the intricacies of appointment. The main thing is that later, when, if anything, they do not blow bubbles!
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 1 November 2017 16: 09
      +2
      He introduced this to Serdyukov: the main thing is to be a manager, and experts, and especially principled ones, are not needed at all. The main criterion is leadership loyalty.
    2. badens1111
      badens1111 2 November 2017 08: 00
      0
      Quote: astronom1973n
      "Mahra" at the helm of the videoconferencing is another step towards moronism! Just by inflating your cheeks you can’t achieve anything. You need to thoroughly understand the intricacies of the videoconferencing. General management and administration alone cannot achieve the desired result. But it must be assumed that the guys from the Moscow Region "rummage" in the intricacies of appointment. The main thing is that later, when, if anything, they do not blow bubbles!

      And what was the fact and consequences of the Air Force-marshao, Shaposhnikov for the Armed Forces? We would be silent already ..
  4. Aleksandr_2
    Aleksandr_2 1 November 2017 12: 29
    +6
    advanced Ukrainian experience is also being mastered in the Russian army ....... now in their free time, pilots will begin to dig trenches
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 14: 41
      +3
      We’ve been digging for a long time, don’t worry, it remains to hem on overalls and shoulder straps on leather
  5. quolta
    quolta 1 November 2017 12: 31
    +1
    Strange in the infantry they could not find the necessary position
    1. Severok
      Severok 1 November 2017 14: 14
      +2
      No, he would not agree to a sergeant position.
  6. Clone
    Clone 1 November 2017 12: 35
    +1
    Future Minister of Defense?
  7. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 1 November 2017 12: 35
    11
    My deepest condolences to the videoconferencing
    1. kenig1
      kenig1 1 November 2017 12: 53
      +6
      Do you know the skills of Surovikin? How did he command a group in Syria, make decisions on the exercises on the use of aviation?
      1. FID
        FID 1 November 2017 13: 21
        12
        Quote: kenig1
        Do you know the skills of Surovikin? How did he command a group in Syria, make decisions on the exercises on the use of aviation?

        So, during the Second World War, the front commander ordered the bombing to hell .... Did you mean exactly that? Or knowledge of the specifics of the Air Force, which aircraft are needed, which specialists will be required ????
      2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 1 November 2017 18: 12
        +5
        Quote: kenig1
        Do you know the skills of Surovikin? How did he command a group in Syria, make decisions on the exercises on the use of aviation?

        Surovikin's skills are pretty well known; he is not a secret person. He studied at the Academy. Frunze, commanded motorized riflemen, including in Tajikistan and Chechnya, in the future - combined arms armies. For some time he served in the Urals in the Central Military District and set up the work of the military police. Then, since 2013 - the commander of the Eastern Military District.
        Well, Surovikin has had something to do with aviation since 2013. And about Syria ... he took command in May 2017, and I apologize, but by then everything had been working there wonderfully for a long time without a new commander.
        I do not seek to belittle his merits, although I myself can not judge them, but I heard different opinions. But in any case, he is a combined arms soldier who almost did not deal with aviation - I assure you that the duties of the commander of the military forces, with their serious performance, could not give him time for a detailed acquaintance with the airborne forces.
        You see, in can also command a combined arms. Because his relationship with the videoconferencing in this case will be purely consumer, he knows what can be expected from them and requires it. It's like, excuse me, a taxi - I myself may not be able to drive a car at all, but I can easily set a task for a taxi driver to deliver me from point A to point B and control the execution :))) It is clear that the analogy is conditional, but ...
        But my ability to get what I want from taxi drivers does not mean that I am able to manage a fleet of vehicles. For this, my skills of “driving” taxi drivers are karekotically insufficient - I already need to know the mechanics of the car, and a bunch of everything else.
        1. tomket
          tomket 1 November 2017 22: 31
          +2
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          It's like, excuse me, a taxi - I myself may not be able to drive a car at all, but I can easily set a task for a taxi driver to deliver me from point A to point B and control the execution :))) It is clear that the analogy is conditional, but ...

          By the way, Commander-in-Chief Kutakhov directly developed the concept of the 4 generation fighters. He was directly involved in the formulation of tasks and questions that should be addressed to designers, and the appearance of the MiG-29 and Su-27 developed directly under his influence. And now compare the activities of his activities with yours, "I tell the taxi driver where to go, he takes me there." Here I feel our VKS and will "come" with such commanders-in-chief to a standstill.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 November 2017 18: 26
            +1
            Quote: tomket
            By the way, Commander-in-Chief Kutakhov directly developed the concept of 4th generation fighters.

            But noble sir, Kutakhov is a warrior of air! He has 14 shot down deutsche accounts. Guarded the northern convoys! (as there in the North you can also fly on airplanes of that time - generally beyond my understanding)
            Quote: tomket
            He was directly involved in the formulation of tasks and issues that should be addressed to designers, and the appearance of the MiG-29 and Su-27, developed directly under his influence

            So, after all - the famous pilot of the Karelian front, he commanded the air regiment, air division, air army ... and - deservedly! - Commander-in-chief of the Air Force. With a capital letter. Well, if not him, then who?
    2. Per se.
      Per se. 1 November 2017 13: 32
      +8
      No matter how much the sailors had to express their condolences here, “once such a booze has gone”. Here, they will appoint a woman as commander-in-chief ... The fleet, it is expensive, and talented economists, financiers, customs officers, or lawyers have a place to turn around ... For example, Tatiana Viktorovna Shevtsova.
      Naturally, such an active woman as Tatyana Shevtsova, who has repeatedly shown her professionalism in any business that she would not undertake, Anatoly Serdyukov also could not forget. In May 2010, she became his official adviser. Already in August of the same year, Tatyana Viktorovna was appointed deputy defense minister by order of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 1 November 2017 21: 30
        +1
        into her submariners, like the English.
    3. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 14: 43
      +6
      Thank you Andrew, but I hope that the commander of the VKS is a passing position for Comrade Surovikina.
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 14: 54
        +8
        And Shevtsova’s mouth is a worker. Like Vasilyeva by the way. Zhenya had to personally contemplate in 2010, when this step ... after the dispersal of Vozdvizhenka came to our unit, everything also went to dispersal. It’s good that they didn’t have time, how did they all chopped us off in those years, I’m still in ah ....
      2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 1 November 2017 18: 14
        +1
        Quote: Rushnairfors
        but I hope - the commander of the VKS is a passing position for Comrade. Surovikina.

        Greetings, dear Rushnairfors!
        I also hope so, but another question arises - if for him this post is a passing one, then a passing one .... where?
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 19: 10
          +2
          Andrei, I honestly can’t imagine: well, if he were a lieutenant, one could understand, to get a colonel through the VKS GC, and then to a deputy. RF Ministry of Defense is possible, but he is already a colonel, he will not be promoted, but I believe that this is the first post after God, they all wrinkle their forehead- WHAT SENSE ???? Apparently we mortals do not understand.
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 1 November 2017 21: 40
            +1
            Quote: Rushnairfors
            all forehead wrinkle- WHAT SENSE ????


            New Secretary of Defense?
            Then - Shoigu where?
            In the presidency?
            Then - ........ where ...? recourse [B] [/ b] laughing
  8. sashok1951.21
    sashok1951.21 1 November 2017 12: 37
    +9
    Serdyukov fell all the sun. Now we decided on the birth of the Armed Forces. Glory to the god of cavalry is no longer, and then there is no one to command the submariners.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 November 2017 12: 37
    +3
    Logically, the videoconferencing should of course lead the flyer, but it is not for us to decide. The main thing is that it is to the benefit. "The big giraffe knows better" (V. Vysotsky)
  10. NN52
    NN52 1 November 2017 12: 42
    10
    It’s sad all this .... Have you decided to experiment?
    After all, there was a very worthy candidate Makushev ...
    Let's see what happens ...
  11. dasbo
    dasbo 1 November 2017 12: 45
    +5
    Yes, I agree, a bad choice. I remember how we, the crews of the PKK SN, were drunk on the parade ground while practicing drill march. Meanwhile, the crews were 50% manned, the materiel was poorly known and a day later stood at the checkpoint and other coastal husk. Well, at least those who were in the database were not touched, but this is only for the duration of the database!
  12. Vovan 73
    Vovan 73 1 November 2017 12: 47
    +5
    One word - WONDERFUL !!!!
  13. Aleksandr_2
    Aleksandr_2 1 November 2017 12: 58
    +9
    strange ..... really among the Emergencies Ministry generals there was no candidate to head the VKS ??
  14. ZVS
    ZVS 1 November 2017 13: 04
    +7
    Scribe Aviation ...... The shoemaker took to bake pies.
  15. Overlock
    Overlock 1 November 2017 13: 09
    +6
    nothing new :
    - Minister of Agriculture - doctor of medical sciences Skrynnik EB, then Fedorov N.V., graduate of the law faculty of Kazan University, candidate of jurid. sciences.
    - Minister of Health Zurabov M.Yu., Cybernetics Economist, then T. Golikova, economist.
    MO - Serdyukov.
    Results are known
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 1 November 2017 16: 16
      +4
      When a person does not know the specifics of a subordinate structure, it is easier to cure and break the old system through it. Will a competent and loving leader allow you to destroy or "castrate" the entrusted economy? Hence, one of the failed reforms in agriculture, medicine, education ... Well, the most important criterion in the appointment is loyalty to the leadership!
  16. iouris
    iouris 1 November 2017 13: 22
    0
    This topic has already been discussed. More relevant is the question of what will happen if K. Vittorgan becomes the top commander.
  17. stolz
    stolz 1 November 2017 13: 24
    +5
    Quote: xetai9977
    All the same, specialists must command the armed forces

    Yes, it is not yet known how the pilots will perceive it, because they have marshals flying, and then they will come, born to crawl, and will teach them how to fly.
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 14: 47
      +2
      Marshals with us fly, of course, but these Marshals are MARCHALS OF AVIATION. Feel the difference ???
  18. captain
    captain 1 November 2017 14: 06
    +6
    Interestingly, will a fireman be appointed by the commander-in-chief of the Ground Forces or will they be taken from the traffic police?
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 1 November 2017 14: 20
      +1
      Quote: captain
      and the commander-in-chief of the Land Forces will appoint a fireman or from the traffic police

      Personally, they won’t take you anywhere.
      Do not fuss.
      You are not suitable for S. Surovikin in soles, both in knowledge and in other qualities.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 1 November 2017 21: 32
        +2
        why then they didn’t take him to the Moscow Region, so talented and smart?
      2. tomket
        tomket 2 November 2017 01: 14
        +1
        Quote: badens1111
        S. Surovikin is not suitable for soles, both in knowledge and in other qualities.

        It is clear that Surovkin is the best friend of aviators)))))))) We already had one such best friend))))))))))) If I am not mistaken, then only under Novikov the Air Force began to give less or less results.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 2 November 2017 08: 02
          0
          Quote: tomket
          Air force more or less

          Yeah, he was, the Air Force marshal in the role of MO .. Shaposhnikov, in trickery ... no use to the troops.
  19. Severok
    Severok 1 November 2017 14: 12
    +2
    Tryndets! Why not put the admiral in command of the Airborne Forces? Effective managers lead everything to collapse.
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 14: 49
      +3
      Severok, Surovikin, of course, the videoconferencing will not lead to collapse, but we’ll hapnem the madhouse;
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 1 November 2017 14: 29
    +5
    Marshal of the Soviet Union S. S. Biryuzov - combined arms commander ...
    Marshal of the Soviet Union P.F. Batitsky - combined arms commander ...
    http://www.vko.ru/voennoe-stroitelstvo/voyska-pvo
    -strany-vzlety-i-padeniya
    read, interesting and informative will be!
    Large, “motley” national team “hodgepodge” can not effectively command not everyone.
    I would like to believe that the new commander of the VKS will be worthy of his outstanding predecessors !!!
  21. rudolff
    rudolff 1 November 2017 14: 32
    13
    I don’t remember who called the current government "an amazing bunch of incompetent people." It seems that soon the same can be said about the army. It’s sad. Does Putin really not understand that with his cunning personnel policy, he harms Russia more than all Anglo-Saxons and Islamists combined? Or maybe she understands ...
    I graduated from the naval, served on the submarine. What will put me say the commander of a tank regiment? The best I can do is find sensible deputies and step back from actual control. Otherwise, I’ll kill the regiment.
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 15: 16
      12
      Rudolph, good evening. As for the naval commanders (please do not be offended), the kashnik from Chernyakhovsk told: Rear Admiral with the BF came to them with inspection, well, as usual, stuffed them in tonsils, and then summing up: "Well, what do you need? What needs to be improved? What needs to be improved? " Com.polka him- "comrade k-a, we fly a little, the personnel is 80% not prepared for the database at night, with m / m not restored, kerosene and flights in more." Admiral: do you fly a lot? Com. Regiment 2-3 shifts per month, but it would be necessary so much per week. Admiral: What the fuck ????? Yes, we go out to sea once a quarter, and 2 days are not enough for you to fly a month ????? Actually what can we talk about? VIMO came to us 2 times in the last 5 years, extinguish the candles, a complete misunderstanding of the laws of flight operation. And most importantly, they say- YOUR FLIGHTS ARE HOBBIES, IT'S NOT THE MAIN THING, THE MAIN THING IS THIS WRESTLINES, PHIZO, RHBZ, and here we are ranting
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 1 November 2017 16: 16
        +7
        Well, it's like a bike when you were studying. In St. Petersburg, patrols were "in boots" and sea. Well, somehow the green ones are catching our cadet, but his button came off and he guys (uniform blue collar) put it in his pocket.
        -That, comrade cadet, why not in form? Why is yours this one, how is it there, which is blue with stripes in your pocket ?!
        -Knecht, comrade captain! So here, the button came off!
        - You break, comrade cadet! I am writing to you a dismissal note!
        The cadet returns to school, reports to the duty officer.
        -Do you have any comments?
        -There is! Only I did not understand anything. The green patrol on the Palace hooked on, saying why in dismissal without a bail!
        The attendant reads the remark.
        -Well, these boots are generally overgrown! Already in patrol guzzle vodka! Go cadet!
        Knecht, this is a mooring pedestal, sometimes multi-ton.
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 17: 36
          +4
          Hahahaha, smiled, but forgive me for not telling a story. That year we had VIMO, there was such a small caperang- Subbotin’s surname, so he couldn’t understand why our planes take off and land with one course, he believed that we were all trying to fool them, all talk about the wind circle of flights scheme they didn’t act on it- "here the ship at sea leaves with one course, but returns with another !!!" This is not a joke, at the end of the Republic of Poland, we began to think ourselves, and wasn’t he? I swear it was so, so I believe the koshnik, all the more there is indirect evidence of this - they all flew by agreement to Monchegorsk overnight, they recruited both for class and for training, in reality Chernyakhovsk was not “nightly” - and he was my one-time assistant. Commander AAE was promoted to be a 2nd class pilot; he was not ready at m / m at night and at the military base, because they were not involved in this business. Such a sadness.
          1. rudolff
            rudolff 1 November 2017 18: 08
            +2
            Yes, I believe, I’ve seen enough. To our neighbors in Gadzhievo, the PKK SN division, a comprehensive inspection from the Ministry of Defense has come. There were stripes from the Strategic Missile Forces. So indignation knew no bounds. On the ship 16 SLBMs. This is actually a division. But the division is commanded by a general, and then some kind of lieutenant colonel (Kapdva). At the adoption of the command for the use of weapons, they have senior officers there, and then some sailors under the command of a communications commander, drop by rank. In short, a mess and a point! And do not convince.
            1. Rushnairfors
              Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 18: 27
              +4
              Rudolph, do not think the only thing, I respect the naval ones very much, and for me the submariners are generally an elite, I personally would be able to be a submariner, I just think that flyers don’t have to go to tank crews, sailors to pilots, rocket men to sailors, all inspections to be specialized, I admit that the "alien" representative is purely for one purpose, to ensure that there are no "brotherly" relations between your kind - such as a bathhouse, a buffet table, girls, you know how they meet their "friends." But it’s not with checks that they go wherever you are.
              1. rudolff
                rudolff 1 November 2017 18: 39
                +2
                That's right, I’m talking about it myself. “The trouble is, since the cobbler will start the pies, and the boots will stitch the pie.”
            2. weksha50
              weksha50 1 November 2017 21: 49
              0
              Quote: rudolff
              On the ship 16 SLBMs. This is actually a division.


              I apologize... hi Two regiments ... that OS (with silos), that PGRK ... Or 5 regiments of the BZHRK ... Here is the last one - it’s close to the division ...
              1. rudolff
                rudolff 1 November 2017 22: 32
                +2
                Once upon a time, the number of regiments in a division could be over ten. In different divisions in different time periods in different ways. From 2 to 10. Now 3-4 is normal. But there are two regiments, as for example now in the 28th division (20 silos).
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 1 November 2017 19: 10
      +3
      Quote: rudolff
      I don’t remember who called the current government "an amazing bunch of incompetent people."

      Show me this man, I will kiss him ... ehhkm ... well, that’s if a woman, and so - I shake a strong calloused hand from the heart. Great wording
    3. Overlock
      Overlock 1 November 2017 21: 33
      0
      at the present time, cope! The result is not important, the figure and the process are important
  22. pvv113
    pvv113 1 November 2017 14: 37
    +1
    We are preparing shoulder straps for flight technical uniform
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 15: 17
      +4
      Ready to eat for a long time
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 1 November 2017 15: 31
        +1
        There were earlier such attempts
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 16: 12
          +1
          Break through what to do? Do not quit ...
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 1 November 2017 16: 13
            0
            It's a shame for aviation
            1. Rushnairfors
              Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 17: 40
              +4
              It's a shame of course, but you know, when the attack aircraft became the Commander of YES, everyone too got into a rush, but it turned out Kobylash is a man. Of course, the pilot is a pilot, he’s in a common theme and it’s not difficult to understand the type of aviation, but I think Surovikin will not have time to do much, he’ll leave to raise, it’s not in vain that the infantryman was offered this position, probably the springboard is much higher
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 1 November 2017 20: 17
                +1
                I was lucky - with me, all the YES commanders were far
  23. Radikal
    Radikal 1 November 2017 14: 59
    +1
    Colonel-General Sergey Surovkin will become the commander of the VKS
    And why not the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy ?! At the same time! Two in one ... if the Homeland (sorry - the party "United Russia") orders! wassat
    1. pvv113
      pvv113 1 November 2017 20: 19
      +2
      According to the experience of Ukraine, the tank commander should be the commander of the Navy hi
  24. Sergey53
    Sergey53 1 November 2017 16: 12
    +2
    The interaction of aviation and ground forces has always been a weak link in our aircraft. Therefore, they put the person who could organize this interaction.
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 1 November 2017 16: 44
      +1
      Quote: Sergey53
      The interaction of aviation and ground forces has always been a weak link in our aircraft. Therefore, they put the person who could organize this interaction.

      Thank you, you clarified my idea, as it will be more accessible for many divostratategus.
    2. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 17: 44
      +5
      Yes, he does not organize anything, it’s enough to repeat this nonsense, and in Afghanistan they interacted both in Chechnya and Georgia, everything was fine and Surovikin did not open America in this matter. Yes, of course, the losses in Syria are incomparably lower than in the conflicts voiced above, but the lucid man himself will understand why, at least not because the infantry uncle is so smart and everything is so super
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 17: 49
        +7
        And so if before Surovikin there was another commander of the group in Syria, which incidentally fell the tiniest - now he really had to establish security, and life, and security and defense, and the situation was awful for the pilots at that time - the database area unknown, many now have 3-4 trips there, but there are more than a hundred flights, and 2 years ago everything was different. And nothing, no one sings to him the diframbs; the Hero of Russia was deservedly given an amba, and here Surovikin’s right, well, the marshal of victory
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 17: 52
          +3
          And one more moment, Surovikin is one of the founders of the military police, but these ghans ... the whole army hates the new people, and even the pilots, and even more so who passed through Artek, so much fierce hatred.
          1. Rushnairfors
            Rushnairfors 1 November 2017 17: 53
            +2
            Baden and you are not one of these ..... Red Riding Hood ?????
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 2 November 2017 08: 05
              0
              Quote: Rushnairfors
              an hour

              Not one of them is the first, second, that military police that is afraid of drunken flyers is doing its job, third, if you have not seen Surovikin in the service, there is nothing to hang gossip and rumors on him.
  25. Assyrian
    Assyrian 1 November 2017 17: 22
    0
    Quote: rudolff
    I graduated from the naval, served on the submarine. What will happen

    We had a factory director, a former submariner (from a sunken boat) was a cool guy.
    PS True, in 3 years, he brought to bankruptcy a new, just-built plant. But this is a different story. laughing
  26. stolz
    stolz 1 November 2017 17: 37
    +1
    Quote: Stock Officer
    Eugene, welcome!

    Go to hell! You and your friends hesitated with their greetings.
  27. Finches
    Finches 1 November 2017 18: 25
    +4
    badens1111,
    Dear, do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs — to command the army and the front in a combined-arms operation and command the air force, as a separate type of the Armed Forces, are two big differences! Without begging the merits of the Colonel General ... And don’t get personal, I can, I can’t ! However, I have already noted that this is most likely the Supreme’s political move, and the Colonel General will be smart enough not to teach pilots to fly “as they should”! hi
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 2 November 2017 08: 22
      0
      Quote: Finches
      However, I have already noted that this is most likely the Supreme’s political move, and the Colonel General will be smart enough not to teach pilots to fly “as they should”!

      Why then all your lengthy comments of indignation? I remember we had a military marshal from the Air Force, Shaposhnikov's surname, well, it was much sadder that such an army was taxied.
      If you’re so unbearable about Surovikin’s appointment, out of fears that he will begin to teach pilots to fly, well, you don’t need to teach pros, but stupid and dunno in the structure of the aerospace forces, it’s time to move.
      1. Finches
        Finches 2 November 2017 08: 29
        +2
        I don’t give a damn - I wrote that after 25 years of military service I look at everything philosophically ... Tomorrow they will put a highly professional gynecologist to command the fleet - these are the highest interests of Russia! All for good! But below, the Kremlin, I don’t know how much this takes place, wrote the main reason for the appointment and generally success in the service: "he is married to the sister of D. Medvedev’s wife " - then everything becomes more or less clear, we need another record-step in a private matter for a springboard in the chair of the chief of the General Staff! laughing

        I was taught at a military school - if you want to get into the club of generals - you need to get married right ... And I, dope ..k, for love! laughing
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 2 November 2017 08: 37
          0
          Quote: Finches
          And I, for love!

          Heh .. well, what if the daughters of general weren’t enough for everyone recourse ?
          However, all this is nonsense, to see how this person works is one thing, and to bathe in bed is excuse me, but how lousy it is. negative
          1. Finches
            Finches 2 November 2017 08: 57
            +2
            Come on, I’m juggling, nowhere do I stumble and plead for the merits of the general, only I have been living in the army for a long time ... Here again I emphasize my personal opinion, developed from my own life and work experience - the shoemaker must sew boots! Many times I came across bosses who, for all their talents, but without understanding the specifics, broke whole firewood bundles and you won’t convince me of the opposite! hi
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 2 November 2017 12: 01
              0
              Quote: Finches
              Many times I came across bosses who, for all their talents, but not understanding the specifics, cracked whole bundles of firewood and you won’t convince me otherwise!

              Let's not argue, let's see the result.
  28. Overlock
    Overlock 1 November 2017 21: 23
    +1
    Quote: killganoff
    Well, the most important criterion in the appointment

    ass lick and share on time
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 2 November 2017 08: 33
      0
      Quote: Overlock
      я

      You about yourself? Why so loud?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 2 November 2017 09: 38
        +1
        about you. Examine the branch - almost everyone is negative about the appointment. One challenge. Hence this is the conclusion about you.
  29. weksha50
    weksha50 1 November 2017 21: 27
    0
    Well, on this occasion, quite recently argued that the VKS will command a combined arms ...
    But two facts play for him: the first is that he was the Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, and the second that he is the commander of the Russian Armed Forces (VKS) in Syria ...
    But that’s what smiled at me ... Yesterday or the day before yesterday, the conversation was also about Shevtsova (the main financier of the RF Armed Forces) ...
    I’ll put two pictures for comparison:



    Hmm ... Comparison - not in favor of Surovikin ... laughing
  30. asushnik 78
    asushnik 78 1 November 2017 21: 29
    0
    But do not you all think that Surovikin is being prepared for the post of Minister of Defense?
    1. rudolff
      rudolff 1 November 2017 22: 03
      +8
      Judging by recent Russian history, the appointment to the post of Minister of Defense does not require any preparation. In the sense, none at all.
  31. stolz
    stolz 1 November 2017 21: 52
    0
    Quote: xetai9977
    All the same, specialists must command the armed forces

    A controversial statement, who can say something bad about the German army? Meanwhile, the Minister of Defense there Ursula von der Leyen, a doctor by training.
  32. stolz
    stolz 1 November 2017 22: 00
    0
    Quote: asushnik 78
    But do not you all think that Surovikin is being prepared for the post of Minister of Defense?

    Why not? He is more of a military specialist than the current civil engineer, his highest achievement in military construction was the abolition of footcloths and the introduction of socks.
  33. Radikal
    Radikal 1 November 2017 23: 55
    +1
    Quote: rudolff
    Judging by recent Russian history, the appointment to the post of Minister of Defense does not require any preparation. In the sense, none at all.

    This can be said about almost all posts in the government! wassat
  34. Radikal
    Radikal 1 November 2017 23: 58
    +2
    Quote: weksha50
    Well, on this occasion, quite recently argued that the VKS will command a combined arms ...
    But two facts play for him: the first is that he was the Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, and the second that he is the commander of the Russian Armed Forces (VKS) in Syria ...
    But that’s what smiled at me ... Yesterday or the day before yesterday, the conversation was also about Shevtsova (the main financier of the RF Armed Forces) ...
    I’ll put two pictures for comparison:



    Hmm ... Comparison - not in favor of Surovikin ... laughing

    Is it you that Shevtsova deserves to be the Commander of the VKS more than Surovikin? wassat
  35. Kremlevets
    Kremlevets 2 November 2017 01: 46
    +1
    Quote: Radikal
    But two facts play for him: the first is that he was the Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, and the second that he is the commander of the Russian Armed Forces (VKS) in Syria ...

    And yet, and this also matters, he is married to the sister of D. Medvedev’s wife
    1. Vovan 73
      Vovan 73 2 November 2017 04: 54
      +2
      Duc - this is precisely the main reason
  36. Overlock
    Overlock 2 November 2017 09: 35
    0
    badens1111,
    are you completely .... or are you pretending to be? Are you a general? What are you doing here? Are you not a hunter? what are you doing here? I chop wood. How many specialties in the Army and Navy?
  37. Overlock
    Overlock 2 November 2017 09: 39
    +1
    Quote: Kremlin man
    on sister of wife Medvedev

    how many of these sisters? Vasilyeva already exists
  38. Overlock
    Overlock 2 November 2017 09: 43
    +3
    Deputy Prosecutor General - Chief Military Prosecutor Sergei Fridinsky - wrote a letter to the Russian Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov (2011), in which he draws attention to the criminal record of Lieutenant General Sergey Surovikin. A letter was sent to the head of the Ministry of Defense on December 2. It says that since November 2011, Lieutenant General Sergei Surovikin has been leading the working group on the creation of the military police "with the prospect of appointment" to the post of head of the main department of the military police of the Ministry of Defense. Fridinsky reminds the Minister that in September 1995, Surovikin, being a student of the Frunze Military Academy, was found guilty by the military court of the Moscow garrison of “complicity in the acquisition and sale, as well as carrying firearms and ammunition without permission” (Article 17, h .1 Art. 218 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR). He was sentenced to one year probation.

    “Not only for moral and ethical reasons, but also according to Art. 20 of the draft law “On the Military Police of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation”, a ban on serving in the military police of citizens who have or had a criminal record is reasonably provided, ”Fridinsky summarizes. However, if you delve into the biography of Lieutenant General Surovikin, you can easily find that the incident with a criminal record is far from the only dubious episode in his past. So, in April of this year, after a conversation with a lieutenant general, Colonel Andrei Shtakal, deputy commander of the 34th motorized infantry division in arms (32nd military town) committed suicide in front of his colleagues. Another high-profile incident involving Lieutenant General Surovikin took place a month earlier, in March of this year. Then the lieutenant colonel of one of the military units of Yekaterinburg, Viktor Tsibizov, appealed to the garrison prosecutor’s office with a complaint that he was beaten by his senior commander, division commander Major General Surovikin. The reason for the beating in the General’s office was, according to the victim, that Tsibizov voted “not for that candidate” at the March 14 by-election to the State Duma.

    According to Lieutenant Colonel Tsibizov, on March 14, senior officers brought him to the office of the division commander, Major General Surovikin, from the polling station, where he was an observer from the headquarters of State Duma candidate Yevgeny Zyablitsev. In the presence of the general, senior officers for several hours persistently “recommended” him not to appear at the polling station until the end of the vote, threatening with harsh sanctions, up to dismissal and failure to provide the apartment assigned to him, Tsibizov.
    http://ru-compromat.livejournal.com/455933.html
    maybe true, maybe not
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 2 November 2017 17: 16
      0
      Quote: Overlock
      maybe true, maybe not

      Junk.
      The three fire-meshes that came under the tracks leaving the city of infantry fighting vehicles, the investigation was and indicated, they were to blame themselves, they had to drink less. The soldiers of the crew were generally entitled to use weapons.
      Quote: Overlock
      that Tsibizov at the by-elections to the State Duma on March 14 voted “not for that candidate”.

      Generally not stupid in itself, Surovikin didn’t care what anyone voted for.
      Here is the price for Zyablitsov
      http://www.compromat.ru/page_9432.htm
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 3 November 2017 18: 28
        0
        all the shit, one you --- D "Artagnan! Baba Yaga -" For ".
  39. goblin xnumx
    goblin xnumx 2 November 2017 10: 59
    +2
    I looked at the biography, I read it - tell me, in the Ministry of Defense all such “jumpers” in places and positions — in a year — a maximum of two in one place — is this normal? for me, not really, but I'm not in the Moscow Region ... though .... - the former "ours" - our "cook" - it commands you, and we have "undeveloped" tank gunners and so on ...
  40. Kremlevets
    Kremlevets 2 November 2017 17: 07
    +4
    Quote: Leshy74
    I looked at the biography, I read it - tell me, in the Ministry of Defense all such “jumpers” in places and positions — in a year — a maximum of two in one place — is this normal? for me, not really, but I'm not in the Moscow Region ... though .... - the former "ours" - our "cook" - it commands you, and we have "undeveloped" tank gunners and so on ...

    It is necessary to marry in youth favorably. While you were having fun with cooks and hairdressers. Young lieutenant Surovikin, a very smart and practical guy, met the daughter of the commander of the Taman Division, then he married and received all ranks before the colonel ahead of schedule, well, he did not stay in posts because his father-in-law also grew up in positions. The last position of the father-in-law was the Head of the combat training of the RF Armed Forces, in the 90s he was once called the Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces. He was not in any special forces and Afghans, these are his fantasies, and the fantasies of his "admirers." He began his platoon service in the Taman division at 15 msec. During the 1991 coup, he was the headquarters of the SME. The only commander among all the commanders managed to ambush unarmed students, carry out .... a couple of BMPs and have losses. He didn’t sit in any prison and Yeltsin didn’t amnesty him. There was a prosecutor’s check on the death of three (future heroes of Russia), he walked along it indirectly, as the acting commander of the ISF. At the time of their death, he was in another place. Immediately after the coup, the father-in-law sent him to the academy until everything was quiet. It was also interesting. Who remembers the years 93-95. Moscow was hungry and dashing, the academy students worked as best they could. The officer of the fire training department and several students, including Surovikin, guarded the tavern. Bandits arrived, the guards lighted up the barrel, like we don’t eat bread with soup, the bandits set an arrow, ours pushed the barrel from the pulpit, and the bandits did not come, but surrendered them to the cops. The newly-minted Al-Kaponov was tied up. They all soldered the term, except for Surovikin, the condition helped him, his father-in-law helped him. So that he wouldn’t reflect on his release, they sent him away from Moscow, to Tajikistan. Well, and so on ..
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 April 6 2018 17: 28
      0
      Quote: Kremlin man
      There was a prosecutor’s check on the death of three (future heroes of Russia), he passed through it indirectly, as the acting commander of the ISB

      You, an hour, did not command a company in this battalion?