Colonel-General Sergei Surovikin to become commander-in-chief

The commander of the Russian grouping of troops in Syria, Sergei Surovikin, will take up the duties of the commander-in-chief of the VKS. He will be the first combined-arms general to lead this type of troops, but for the time being he will remain in Syria due to the lack of certainty about his successor, reports Kommersant.

According to Kommersant, the General Staff planned to appoint the commander of the airborne forces Andrei Serdyukov as the head of the grouping in the SAR, but he is now recovering from a car accident. Sources claim that this candidate is still a priority, but his trip will depend entirely on his health.

Earlier, newspaper sources noted that Surovikin’s new appointment should be regarded as “rewarding for decent service in Syria: having led the group in March 2017, he was able to qualitatively increase the level of interaction of ground forces, aviation, Air defense and space grouping. "

Taking into account the experience of the general (he headed the main operational department of the General Staff, was the chief of staff of the Central Military District, commanded the Eastern Military District) "leading a new type of troops should not be for him some kind of revelation," one of the publication’s interlocutors is convinced.

According to the newspaper, Surovikin should formally take up the new duties of November 1. However, he will remain in Syria until the question of his successor is finally resolved.

Comments

[xetai9977]

All the same, specialists must command the armed forces

[Finches]

Absolutely right! Pilots should be commanded by pilots, sailors - sailors ... But we from Ukraine laugh - the same garbage! With all due respect to GDP and Shoigu, but not military, unfortunately ... and their personnel decisions regarding the Armed Forces often raise questions from staff officers! Politicians - yes! Good men, but not military men - one KGB officer, the second road builder! But soon the military will not remain - the remaining military schools were so reformed and democratized that they began to look like Institutes of noble maidens, and not like men's training schools for the Army ..
I don’t take my 25 years of service, and for a long time I have been looking at everything that is happening from a philosophical point of view - I’ll better save my health! It is said that infantry will be in command of the flyers - so it should be so ... Now the flyers will find out what the barracks order and military discipline are all about "First thing, first thing, airplanes ...!"

[NIKNN]

Quote: Finches

Now the flyers will find out what the barracks order and military discipline are, and then they writhed out of themselves ...

It was already when the regiments of the Air Defense Forces reassigned the missilemen ... there was no laughing matter, it was almost on alert in a sword belt and boots didn’t fly ..., they realized they returned to normal ...

[Finches]

Yes, in the subject I ...!

[Reserve officer]

Eugene, welcome!
There is another topic in full swing. The Commander-in-Chief has not yet begun his duties, but all funding for the videoconferencing programs has been frozen for more than a month. A revision is coming ...

[Finches]

Alexey!
This is another conversation - money there be healthy, there are clearly shadow schemes, but embezzlement and combat readiness are all different things and for this it is not necessary to put infantry to command the fliers!

[Reserve officer]

Eugene, yes, I’m afraid that under the banner of the fight against embezzlement, the combat readiness will suffer. When people come from outside, without knowledge of traditions and specifics, then their first thing is charters and accounting. Readiness goes by the wayside.

[Finches]

The position of the Commander-in-Chief is more political, but knowing the infantry, he must get into each bedside table and personally check the order in the capers and the dust on the helms ... And God forbid .... !!!!

[badens1111]

Quote: Reserve officer

Readiness goes by the wayside.

Leave these tales regarding Surovikin to young undergrowths who not only did not serve in the army, but who do not understand the level of knowledge that Sergey Vladimirovich has at all.
So those who have snout in fluff, even if they think where to go, to the bunks with a biscuit, or they themselves will run to give out everything they have rested.
As for the leadership, it’s not you, nor those who are talking about Surovikin who are incompetent, the academies didn’t finish well and, for example, they didn’t command the 42nd Guards.

[Reserve officer]

In our country, even a university teacher of Roman law can become a prime minister, and an ex-journalist can lead the defense industry.
Time will judge.

[win]

And this is so everywhere!
In Germany, the Minister of Defense - gynecologist

[killganoff]

Quote: Siegen

And this is so everywhere!
In Germany, the Minister of Defense - gynecologist

In such circumstances, in Russia after Shoigu, a proctologist will be.

[badens1111]

Quote: Reserve officer

In our country, even a university teacher of Roman law can become a prime minister, and an ex-journalist can lead the defense industry.

You have who is in the prime ministers and ministers, it makes no difference to me, but you, not knowing either the person or his professional knowledge, try to judge in a question which ... well, in general, it is clear how it is estimated.
Time will judge, but not in your favor.

[killganoff]

Quote: badens1111

Quote: Reserve officer

In our country, even a university teacher of Roman law can become a prime minister, and an ex-journalist can lead the defense industry.

You have who is in the prime ministers and ministers, it makes no difference to me, but you, not knowing either the person or his professional knowledge, try to judge in a question which ... well, in general, it is clear how it is estimated.
Time will judge, but not in your favor.

It is not sad, but I do not agree with you.

[Finches]

Excuse me, is he at the helm of a fighter, attack aircraft, BTA plane .... can fly?

[badens1111]

Quote: killganoff

It is not sad, but I do not agree with you.

In vain.

Quote: Finches

Excuse me, is he at the helm of a fighter, attack aircraft, BTA plane .... can fly?

The main thing that he can do is PLATFULLY plan the use of all arms and forces for the implementation of a particular operation.
Do you know how to do this?

[Overlock]

so who prevents him from serving in the combined army? With your recommendations, he can be entrusted to the Navy. Why not give it a try?

[badens1111]

Quote: Overlock

Why not try it?

You?
That's right, not worth it.

[Overlock]

Can't read? be careful. Firstly, I am not a general, secondly, there is another specialty, thirdly, there is no lawyer like you. You are tearing your ass for him. you and cards in hand

[badens1111]

Quote: Overlock

Firstly, I’m not a general, secondly, there’s another specialty,

Well, if not a military man, not a general, and in general have no idea about the service, why are you tearing something up there?

[SergeyZel]

It's time to figure out where the money goes to create new weapons systems and military equipment for the aerospace forces. OCDs and NIRs begun during the Union still cannot be completed.

[figwam]

He will become the first combined arms general to lead this type of troops.

What nonsense! go nuts, and let the pilot command the tanks! and the airborne troops will obey the sailors!

[Rushnairfors]

And we hoped .... SchA Seryoga will restore order; we sew shoulder straps on the shevretki

[creak]

Quote: NIKNN

realized returned everything to normal ...

The goal is nothing, movement is everything .. This principle has remained unshakable for many years - army aviation was removed from the command of the Army and included in the Air Force. War 08.08.08. highlighted another bossy nonsense - I had to return everything to square one. Such a reciprocating movement was with the teams of the Special Forces of the GRU ...
Truly, stupidity is not a lack of mind, it is such a mind ...

[win]

stupidity is not a lack of mind it's such a mind...fool

In the morning I was riding a bus, thinking, and going out at my stop, on a machine I said loudly to everyone: “Goodbye.” Then it dawned that he had frozen stupidity, slowed down in the doorway and turned around, suddenly adding: “But, by the way, goodbye.”
You should have seen them all jumping after me

[Alexander_2]

again, air regiments will disperse and blind the air brigades and air divisions the pilot should not fly, but he must march!

[venik]

Quote: NIKNN

It was already when the regiments of the Air Defense Forces reassigned the missiles ... there was no laughing matter, it was almost on alert in a sword belt and boots didn’t fly ..., realized we were back to square one

=========
Yeah ..... In the “being” with the jacket of the SA “(RTV)”, the saying went with us: “Lord, Save me from“ my bosses ”(!), And from“ my subordinates, somehow ” I’ll "get myself off" myself !!!) ....

[not main]

Quote: NIKNN

Quote: Finches

Now the flyers will find out what the barracks order and military discipline are, and then they writhed out of themselves ...

It was already when the regiments of the Air Defense Forces reassigned the missilemen ... there was no laughing matter, it was almost on alert in a sword belt and boots didn’t fly ..., they realized they returned to normal ...

Compared to AA, these are just trifles! A simple example: Barriers were installed before each helicopter parking! And this can be remembered all evening. But in fact ... I'm really sorry! Well, the general from infantry cannot command the cavalry!

[AlexVas44]

Quote: Finches

.Now the flyers learn what the barracks order and military discipline are, then they writhed out of themselves ...

They didn’t make anybody out of themselves, but the specifics!?!?!? I remember in the 70-80s stubbornly some general staffists tried to put epaulettes on the flight technical uniform. Like no subordination, you don’t understand who is with the key, who is with the carrier, who is pulling the hose, who is pulling a bomb on his navel. The mess. But about the barracks and boots, this is familiar, especially in air defense aviation. Are we not at all from this world? True, there may have been less senselessness, but there were enough understudies in the leadership.

[Finches]

C'mon offended then! I'm loving What to do if this is a stable stereotype of our navigators - where aviation begins, discipline ends!

[Rushnairfors]

Well, in the sky we are disciplined, and we build walk in the sky, more beautiful than any infantry.

[Rushnairfors]

Zyablitsev- I, too, loving. For tomorrow, hang up flights, I waved a bit, I went to VO- HERE AGAIN SUROVIKIN !!!!! I had to get the bubble out of grief, at the moment there are already less than half left, HAPPY !!!

[creak]

Quote: AlexVas44

and there were enough doubles in the manual.

So what - the more Oaks in the Army, the stronger the defense ...:

[iouris]

VKS is a type of armed forces.

[Rushnairfors]

Come on? Seriously???

[The black]

... the ukrokhuntikov land fleet commands, we have aviation .... and yet we are very similar in some ways

[astronom1973n]

"Mahra" at the helm of the videoconferencing is another step towards moronism! Just by inflating your cheeks you can’t achieve anything. You need to thoroughly understand the intricacies of the videoconferencing. General management and administration alone cannot achieve the desired result. But it must be assumed that the guys from the Moscow Region "rummage" in the intricacies of appointment. The main thing is that later, when, if anything, they do not blow bubbles!

[killganoff]

He introduced this to Serdyukov: the main thing is to be a manager, and experts, and especially principled ones, are not needed at all. The main criterion is leadership loyalty.

[badens1111]

Quote: astronom1973n

"Mahra" at the helm of the videoconferencing is another step towards moronism! Just by inflating your cheeks you can’t achieve anything. You need to thoroughly understand the intricacies of the videoconferencing. General management and administration alone cannot achieve the desired result. But it must be assumed that the guys from the Moscow Region "rummage" in the intricacies of appointment. The main thing is that later, when, if anything, they do not blow bubbles!

And what was the fact and consequences of the Air Force-marshao, Shaposhnikov for the Armed Forces? We would be silent already ..

[Alexander_2]

advanced Ukrainian experience is also being mastered in the Russian army ....... now in their free time, pilots will begin to dig trenches

[Rushnairfors]

We’ve been digging for a long time, don’t worry, it remains to hem on overalls and shoulder straps on leather

[quolta]

Strange in the infantry they could not find the necessary position

[Severok]

No, he would not agree to a sergeant position.

[Clone]

Future Minister of Defense?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

My deepest condolences to the videoconferencing

[kenig1]

Do you know the skills of Surovikin? How did he command a group in Syria, make decisions on the exercises on the use of aviation?

[FID]

Quote: kenig1

Do you know the skills of Surovikin? How did he command a group in Syria, make decisions on the exercises on the use of aviation?

So, during the Second World War, the front commander ordered the bombing to hell .... Did you mean exactly that? Or knowledge of the specifics of the Air Force, which aircraft are needed, which specialists will be required ????

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: kenig1

Do you know the skills of Surovikin? How did he command a group in Syria, make decisions on the exercises on the use of aviation?

Surovikin's skills are pretty well known; he is not a secret person. He studied at the Academy. Frunze, commanded motorized riflemen, including in Tajikistan and Chechnya, in the future - combined arms armies. For some time he served in the Urals in the Central Military District and set up the work of the military police. Then, since 2013 - the commander of the Eastern Military District.
Well, Surovikin has had something to do with aviation since 2013. And about Syria ... he took command in May 2017, and I apologize, but by then everything had been working there wonderfully for a long time without a new commander.
I do not seek to belittle his merits, although I myself can not judge them, but I heard different opinions. But in any case, he is a combined arms soldier who almost did not deal with aviation - I assure you that the duties of the commander of the military forces, with their serious performance, could not give him time for a detailed acquaintance with the airborne forces.
You see, in can also command a combined arms. Because his relationship with the videoconferencing in this case will be purely consumer, he knows what can be expected from them and requires it. It's like, excuse me, a taxi - I myself may not be able to drive a car at all, but I can easily set a task for a taxi driver to deliver me from point A to point B and control the execution :))) It is clear that the analogy is conditional, but ...
But my ability to get what I want from taxi drivers does not mean that I am able to manage a fleet of vehicles. For this, my skills of “driving” taxi drivers are karekotically insufficient - I already need to know the mechanics of the car, and a bunch of everything else.

[tomket]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

It's like, excuse me, a taxi - I myself may not be able to drive a car at all, but I can easily set a task for a taxi driver to deliver me from point A to point B and control the execution :))) It is clear that the analogy is conditional, but ...

By the way, Commander-in-Chief Kutakhov directly developed the concept of the 4 generation fighters. He was directly involved in the formulation of tasks and questions that should be addressed to designers, and the appearance of the MiG-29 and Su-27 developed directly under his influence. And now compare the activities of his activities with yours, "I tell the taxi driver where to go, he takes me there." Here I feel our VKS and will "come" with such commanders-in-chief to a standstill.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: tomket

By the way, Commander-in-Chief Kutakhov directly developed the concept of 4th generation fighters.

But noble sir, Kutakhov is a warrior of air! He has 14 shot down deutsche accounts. Guarded the northern convoys! (as there in the North you can also fly on airplanes of that time - generally beyond my understanding)

Quote: tomket

He was directly involved in the formulation of tasks and issues that should be addressed to designers, and the appearance of the MiG-29 and Su-27, developed directly under his influence

So, after all - the famous pilot of the Karelian front, he commanded the air regiment, air division, air army ... and - deservedly! - Commander-in-chief of the Air Force. With a capital letter. Well, if not him, then who?

[Per se.]

No matter how much the sailors had to express their condolences here, “once such a booze has gone”. Here, they will appoint a woman as commander-in-chief ... The fleet, it is expensive, and talented economists, financiers, customs officers, or lawyers have a place to turn around ... For example, Tatiana Viktorovna Shevtsova.

Naturally, such an active woman as Tatyana Shevtsova, who has repeatedly shown her professionalism in any business that she would not undertake, Anatoly Serdyukov also could not forget. In May 2010, she became his official adviser. Already in August of the same year, Tatyana Viktorovna was appointed deputy defense minister by order of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.

[Overlock]

into her submariners, like the English.

[Rushnairfors]

Thank you Andrew, but I hope that the commander of the VKS is a passing position for Comrade Surovikina.

[Rushnairfors]

And Shevtsova’s mouth is a worker. Like Vasilyeva by the way. Zhenya had to personally contemplate in 2010, when this step ... after the dispersal of Vozdvizhenka came to our unit, everything also went to dispersal. It’s good that they didn’t have time, how did they all chopped us off in those years, I’m still in ah ....

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Rushnairfors

but I hope - the commander of the VKS is a passing position for Comrade. Surovikina.

Greetings, dear Rushnairfors!
I also hope so, but another question arises - if for him this post is a passing one, then a passing one .... where?

[Rushnairfors]

Andrei, I honestly can’t imagine: well, if he were a lieutenant, one could understand, to get a colonel through the VKS GC, and then to a deputy. RF Ministry of Defense is possible, but he is already a colonel, he will not be promoted, but I believe that this is the first post after God, they all wrinkle their forehead- WHAT SENSE ???? Apparently we mortals do not understand.

[weksha50]

Quote: Rushnairfors

all forehead wrinkle- WHAT SENSE ????

New Secretary of Defense?
Then - Shoigu where?
In the presidency?
Then - ........ where ...? [B] [/ b]

[sashok1951.21]

Serdyukov fell all the sun. Now we decided on the birth of the Armed Forces. Glory to the god of cavalry is no longer, and then there is no one to command the submariners.

[rotmistr60]

Logically, the videoconferencing should of course lead the flyer, but it is not for us to decide. The main thing is that it is to the benefit. "The big giraffe knows better" (V. Vysotsky)

[NN52]

It’s sad all this .... Have you decided to experiment?
After all, there was a very worthy candidate Makushev ...
Let's see what happens ...

[dasbo]

Yes, I agree, a bad choice. I remember how we, the crews of the PKK SN, were drunk on the parade ground while practicing drill march. Meanwhile, the crews were 50% manned, the materiel was poorly known and a day later stood at the checkpoint and other coastal husk. Well, at least those who were in the database were not touched, but this is only for the duration of the database!

[Vovan 73]

One word - WONDERFUL !!!!

[Alexander_2]

strange ..... really among the Emergencies Ministry generals there was no candidate to head the VKS ??

[ZVS]

Scribe Aviation ...... The shoemaker took to bake pies.

[Overlock]

nothing new :
- Minister of Agriculture - doctor of medical sciences Skrynnik EB, then Fedorov N.V., graduate of the law faculty of Kazan University, candidate of jurid. sciences.
- Minister of Health Zurabov M.Yu., Cybernetics Economist, then T. Golikova, economist.
MO - Serdyukov.
Results are known

[killganoff]

When a person does not know the specifics of a subordinate structure, it is easier to cure and break the old system through it. Will a competent and loving leader allow you to destroy or "castrate" the entrusted economy? Hence, one of the failed reforms in agriculture, medicine, education ... Well, the most important criterion in the appointment is loyalty to the leadership!

[iouris]

This topic has already been discussed. More relevant is the question of what will happen if K. Vittorgan becomes the top commander.

[stolz]

Quote: xetai9977

All the same, specialists must command the armed forces

Yes, it is not yet known how the pilots will perceive it, because they have marshals flying, and then they will come, born to crawl, and will teach them how to fly.

[Rushnairfors]

Marshals with us fly, of course, but these Marshals are MARCHALS OF AVIATION. Feel the difference ???

[captain]

Interestingly, will a fireman be appointed by the commander-in-chief of the Ground Forces or will they be taken from the traffic police?

[badens1111]

Quote: captain

and the commander-in-chief of the Land Forces will appoint a fireman or from the traffic police

Personally, they won’t take you anywhere.
Do not fuss.
You are not suitable for S. Surovikin in soles, both in knowledge and in other qualities.

[Overlock]

why then they didn’t take him to the Moscow Region, so talented and smart?

[tomket]

Quote: badens1111

S. Surovikin is not suitable for soles, both in knowledge and in other qualities.

It is clear that Surovkin is the best friend of aviators)))))))) We already had one such best friend))))))))))) If I am not mistaken, then only under Novikov the Air Force began to give less or less results.

[badens1111]

Quote: tomket

Air force more or less

Yeah, he was, the Air Force marshal in the role of MO .. Shaposhnikov, in trickery ... no use to the troops.

[Severok]

Tryndets! Why not put the admiral in command of the Airborne Forces? Effective managers lead everything to collapse.

[Rushnairfors]

Severok, Surovikin, of course, the videoconferencing will not lead to collapse, but we’ll hapnem the madhouse;

[rocket757]

Marshal of the Soviet Union S. S. Biryuzov - combined arms commander ...
Marshal of the Soviet Union P.F. Batitsky - combined arms commander ...
http://www.vko.ru/voennoe-stroitelstvo/voyska-pvo
-strany-vzlety-i-padeniya
read, interesting and informative will be!
Large, “motley” national team “hodgepodge” can not effectively command not everyone.
I would like to believe that the new commander of the VKS will be worthy of his outstanding predecessors !!!

[Rushnairfors]

Rudolph, good evening. As for the naval commanders (please do not be offended), the kashnik from Chernyakhovsk told: Rear Admiral with the BF came to them with inspection, well, as usual, stuffed them in tonsils, and then summing up: "Well, what do you need? What needs to be improved? What needs to be improved? " Com.polka him- "comrade k-a, we fly a little, the personnel is 80% not prepared for the database at night, with m / m not restored, kerosene and flights in more." Admiral: do you fly a lot? Com. Regiment 2-3 shifts per month, but it would be necessary so much per week. Admiral: What the fuck ????? Yes, we go out to sea once a quarter, and 2 days are not enough for you to fly a month ????? Actually what can we talk about? VIMO came to us 2 times in the last 5 years, extinguish the candles, a complete misunderstanding of the laws of flight operation. And most importantly, they say- YOUR FLIGHTS ARE HOBBIES, IT'S NOT THE MAIN THING, THE MAIN THING IS THIS WRESTLINES, PHIZO, RHBZ, and here we are ranting

[Rushnairfors]

Hahahaha, smiled, but forgive me for not telling a story. That year we had VIMO, there was such a small caperang- Subbotin’s surname, so he couldn’t understand why our planes take off and land with one course, he believed that we were all trying to fool them, all talk about the wind circle of flights scheme they didn’t act on it- "here the ship at sea leaves with one course, but returns with another !!!" This is not a joke, at the end of the Republic of Poland, we began to think ourselves, and wasn’t he? I swear it was so, so I believe the koshnik, all the more there is indirect evidence of this - they all flew by agreement to Monchegorsk overnight, they recruited both for class and for training, in reality Chernyakhovsk was not “nightly” - and he was my one-time assistant. Commander AAE was promoted to be a 2nd class pilot; he was not ready at m / m at night and at the military base, because they were not involved in this business. Such a sadness.

[Rushnairfors]

Rudolph, do not think the only thing, I respect the naval ones very much, and for me the submariners are generally an elite, I personally would be able to be a submariner, I just think that flyers don’t have to go to tank crews, sailors to pilots, rocket men to sailors, all inspections to be specialized, I admit that the "alien" representative is purely for one purpose, to ensure that there are no "brotherly" relations between your kind - such as a bathhouse, a buffet table, girls, you know how they meet their "friends." But it’s not with checks that they go wherever you are.

[weksha50]

Quote from rudolf

On the ship 16 SLBMs. This is actually a division.

I apologize... Two regiments ... that OS (with silos), that PGRK ... Or 5 regiments of the BZHRK ... Here is the last one - it’s close to the division ...

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote from rudolf

I don’t remember who called the current government "an amazing bunch of incompetent people."

Show me this man, I will kiss him ... ehhkm ... well, that’s if a woman, and so - I shake a strong calloused hand from the heart. Great wording

[Overlock]

at the present time, cope! The result is not important, the figure and the process are important

[pvv113]

We are preparing shoulder straps for flight technical uniform

[Rushnairfors]

Ready to eat for a long time

[pvv113]

There were earlier such attempts

[Rushnairfors]

Break through what to do? Do not quit ...

[pvv113]

It's a shame for aviation

[Rushnairfors]

It's a shame of course, but you know, when the attack aircraft became the Commander of YES, everyone too got into a rush, but it turned out Kobylash is a man. Of course, the pilot is a pilot, he’s in a common theme and it’s not difficult to understand the type of aviation, but I think Surovikin will not have time to do much, he’ll leave to raise, it’s not in vain that the infantryman was offered this position, probably the springboard is much higher

[pvv113]

I was lucky - with me, all the YES commanders were far

[Radical]

Colonel-General Sergey Surovkin will become the commander of the VKS

And why not the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy ?! At the same time! Two in one ... if the Homeland (sorry - the party "United Russia") orders!

[pvv113]

According to the experience of Ukraine, the tank commander should be the commander of the Navy

[Sergey53]

The interaction of aviation and ground forces has always been a weak link in our aircraft. Therefore, they put the person who could organize this interaction.

[badens1111]

Quote: Sergey53

The interaction of aviation and ground forces has always been a weak link in our aircraft. Therefore, they put the person who could organize this interaction.

Thank you, you clarified my idea, as it will be more accessible for many divostratategus.

[Rushnairfors]

Yes, he does not organize anything, it’s enough to repeat this nonsense, and in Afghanistan they interacted both in Chechnya and Georgia, everything was fine and Surovikin did not open America in this matter. Yes, of course, the losses in Syria are incomparably lower than in the conflicts voiced above, but the lucid man himself will understand why, at least not because the infantry uncle is so smart and everything is so super

[Rushnairfors]

And so if before Surovikin there was another commander of the group in Syria, which incidentally fell the tiniest - now he really had to establish security, and life, and security and defense, and the situation was awful for the pilots at that time - the database area unknown, many now have 3-4 trips there, but there are more than a hundred flights, and 2 years ago everything was different. And nothing, no one sings to him the diframbs; the Hero of Russia was deservedly given an amba, and here Surovikin’s right, well, the marshal of victory

[Rushnairfors]

And one more moment, Surovikin is one of the founders of the military police, but these ghans ... the whole army hates the new people, and even the pilots, and even more so who passed through Artek, so much fierce hatred.

[Rushnairfors]

Baden and you are not one of these ..... Red Riding Hood ?????

[badens1111]

Quote: Rushnairfors

an hour

Not one of them is the first, second, that military police that is afraid of drunken flyers is doing its job, third, if you have not seen Surovikin in the service, there is nothing to hang gossip and rumors on him.

[Assyrian]

Quote from rudolf

I graduated from the naval, served on the submarine. What will happen

We had a factory director, a former submariner (from a sunken boat) was a cool guy.
PS True, in 3 years, he brought to bankruptcy a new, just-built plant. But this is a different story.

[stolz]

Quote: Stock Officer

Eugene, welcome!

Go to hell! You and your friends hesitated with their greetings.

[Finches]

badens1111,
Dear, do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs — to command the army and the front in a combined-arms operation and command the air force, as a separate type of the Armed Forces, are two big differences! Without begging the merits of the Colonel General ... And don’t get personal, I can, I can’t ! However, I have already noted that this is most likely the Supreme’s political move, and the Colonel General will be smart enough not to teach pilots to fly “as they should”!

[badens1111]

Quote: Finches

However, I have already noted that this is most likely the Supreme’s political move, and the Colonel General will be smart enough not to teach pilots to fly “as they should”!

Why then all your lengthy comments of indignation? I remember we had a military marshal from the Air Force, Shaposhnikov's surname, well, it was much sadder that such an army was taxied.
If you’re so unbearable about Surovikin’s appointment, out of fears that he will begin to teach pilots to fly, well, you don’t need to teach pros, but stupid and dunno in the structure of the aerospace forces, it’s time to move.

[Finches]

I don’t give a damn - I wrote that after 25 years of military service I look at everything philosophically ... Tomorrow they will put a highly professional gynecologist to command the fleet - these are the highest interests of Russia! All for good! But below, the Kremlin, I don’t know how much this takes place, wrote the main reason for the appointment and generally success in the service: "he is married to the sister of D. Medvedev’s wife " - then everything becomes more or less clear, we need another record-step in a private matter for a springboard in the chair of the chief of the General Staff!

I was taught at a military school - if you want to get into the club of generals - you need to get married right ... And I, dope ..k, for love!

[badens1111]

Quote: Finches

And I, for love!

Heh .. well, what if the daughters of general weren’t enough for everyone ?
However, all this is nonsense, to see how this person works is one thing, and to bathe in bed is excuse me, but how lousy it is.

[Finches]

Come on, I’m juggling, nowhere do I stumble and plead for the merits of the general, only I have been living in the army for a long time ... Here again I emphasize my personal opinion, developed from my own life and work experience - the shoemaker must sew boots! Many times I came across bosses who, for all their talents, but without understanding the specifics, broke whole firewood bundles and you won’t convince me of the opposite!

[badens1111]

Quote: Finches

Many times I came across bosses who, for all their talents, but not understanding the specifics, cracked whole bundles of firewood and you won’t convince me otherwise!

Let's not argue, let's see the result.

[Overlock]

Quote: killganoff

Well, the most important criterion in the appointment

ass lick and share on time

[badens1111]

Quote: Overlock

я

You about yourself? Why so loud?

[Overlock]

about you. Examine the branch - almost everyone is negative about the appointment. One challenge. Hence this is the conclusion about you.

[weksha50]

Well, on this occasion, quite recently argued that the VKS will command a combined arms ...
But two facts play for him: the first is that he was the Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, and the second that he is the commander of the Russian Armed Forces (VKS) in Syria ...
But that’s what smiled at me ... Yesterday or the day before yesterday, the conversation was also about Shevtsova (the main financier of the RF Armed Forces) ...
I’ll put two pictures for comparison:



Hmm ... Comparison - not in favor of Surovikin ...

[asushnik 78]

But do not you all think that Surovikin is being prepared for the post of Minister of Defense?

[stolz]

Quote: xetai9977

All the same, specialists must command the armed forces

A controversial statement, who can say something bad about the German army? Meanwhile, the Minister of Defense there Ursula von der Leyen, a doctor by training.

[stolz]

Quote: asushnik 78

But do not you all think that Surovikin is being prepared for the post of Minister of Defense?

Why not? He is more of a military specialist than the current civil engineer, his highest achievement in military construction was the abolition of footcloths and the introduction of socks.

[Radical]

Quote from rudolf

Judging by recent Russian history, the appointment to the post of Minister of Defense does not require any preparation. In the sense, none at all.

This can be said about almost all posts in the government!

[Radical]

Quote: weksha50

Well, on this occasion, quite recently argued that the VKS will command a combined arms ...
But two facts play for him: the first is that he was the Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, and the second that he is the commander of the Russian Armed Forces (VKS) in Syria ...
But that’s what smiled at me ... Yesterday or the day before yesterday, the conversation was also about Shevtsova (the main financier of the RF Armed Forces) ...
I’ll put two pictures for comparison:



Hmm ... Comparison - not in favor of Surovikin ...

Is it you that Shevtsova deserves to be the Commander of the VKS more than Surovikin?

[Vovan 73]

Duc - this is precisely the main reason

[Overlock]

badens1111,
are you completely .... or are you pretending to be? Are you a general? What are you doing here? Are you not a hunter? what are you doing here? I chop wood. How many specialties in the Army and Navy?

[Overlock]

Quote: Kremlin man

on sister of wife Medvedev

how many of these sisters? Vasilyeva already exists

[Overlock]

Deputy Prosecutor General - Chief Military Prosecutor Sergei Fridinsky - wrote a letter to the Russian Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov (2011), in which he draws attention to the criminal record of Lieutenant General Sergey Surovikin. A letter was sent to the head of the Ministry of Defense on December 2. It says that since November 2011, Lieutenant General Sergei Surovikin has been leading the working group on the creation of the military police "with the prospect of appointment" to the post of head of the main department of the military police of the Ministry of Defense. Fridinsky reminds the Minister that in September 1995, Surovikin, being a student of the Frunze Military Academy, was found guilty by the military court of the Moscow garrison of “complicity in the acquisition and sale, as well as carrying firearms and ammunition without permission” (Article 17, h .1 Art. 218 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR). He was sentenced to one year probation.

“Not only for moral and ethical reasons, but also according to Art. 20 of the draft law “On the Military Police of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation”, a ban on serving in the military police of citizens who have or had a criminal record is reasonably provided, ”Fridinsky summarizes. However, if you delve into the biography of Lieutenant General Surovikin, you can easily find that the incident with a criminal record is far from the only dubious episode in his past. So, in April of this year, after a conversation with a lieutenant general, Colonel Andrei Shtakal, deputy commander of the 34th motorized infantry division in arms (32nd military town) committed suicide in front of his colleagues. Another high-profile incident involving Lieutenant General Surovikin took place a month earlier, in March of this year. Then the lieutenant colonel of one of the military units of Yekaterinburg, Viktor Tsibizov, appealed to the garrison prosecutor’s office with a complaint that he was beaten by his senior commander, division commander Major General Surovikin. The reason for the beating in the General’s office was, according to the victim, that Tsibizov voted “not for that candidate” at the March 14 by-election to the State Duma.

According to Lieutenant Colonel Tsibizov, on March 14, senior officers brought him to the office of the division commander, Major General Surovikin, from the polling station, where he was an observer from the headquarters of State Duma candidate Yevgeny Zyablitsev. In the presence of the general, senior officers for several hours persistently “recommended” him not to appear at the polling station until the end of the vote, threatening with harsh sanctions, up to dismissal and failure to provide the apartment assigned to him, Tsibizov.
http://ru-compromat.livejournal.com/455933.html
maybe true, maybe not

[badens1111]

Quote: Overlock

maybe true, maybe not

Junk.
The three fire-meshes that came under the tracks leaving the city of infantry fighting vehicles, the investigation was and indicated, they were to blame themselves, they had to drink less. The soldiers of the crew were generally entitled to use weapons.

Quote: Overlock

that Tsibizov at the by-elections to the State Duma on March 14 voted “not for that candidate”.

Generally not stupid in itself, Surovikin didn’t care what anyone voted for.
Here is the price for Zyablitsov
http://www.compromat.ru/page_9432.htm

[Overlock]

all the shit, one you --- D "Artagnan! Baba Yaga -" For ".

[goblin xnumx]

I looked at the biography, I read it - tell me, in the Ministry of Defense all such “jumpers” in places and positions — in a year — a maximum of two in one place — is this normal? for me, not really, but I'm not in the Moscow Region ... though .... - the former "ours" - our "cook" - it commands you, and we have "undeveloped" tank gunners and so on ...

[ARES623]

Quote: Kremlin man

There was a prosecutor’s check on the death of three (future heroes of Russia), he passed through it indirectly, as the acting commander of the ISB

You, an hour, did not command a company in this battalion?