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Putin’s many-way moves: a war of all against all can begin in Kiev

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Yesterday morning did not foretell anything unusual in Kiev. The media vied with each other about which of the towers of the Kremlin and why the day before the “people's heroine of Ukraine” Amina Okueva (Natasha Nikiforova) was killed, and how this could end on the scale of a “world revolution”. Thunder struck around the morning in 10, when Interior Minister Arsen Avakov announced that he was taking off the Maidan’s security. And after this statement, events began to evolve simply with kaleidoscopic speed.

Ultimatum Maidan

Avakov's statement, in fact, was a shah and mate to Mikhail Saakashvili’s Maidan. Poroshenko's regime outplayed the ex-president of Georgia and was preparing to deliver the final deadly blow. Any further move entrenched in front of the Rada "patriots" was losing.

In fact, there were exactly two options. Either the “opposition” occupies an empty and practically unprotected parliament and becomes outlawed and is quickly cleared away, or the group of “patriots” who are not guarded by anyone make them leave the “hooligans” who came from.

In any case, Saakashvili lost, and Washington at the same time lost even what he managed so hard to achieve in September-October 2017 of the year. This put an end to any continuation of the anti-Poroshenko protests in the fall and winter, and in the spring it was almost impossible to raise the population of Ukraine on the Maidan. Thus, Kiev, with its unconventional move, could secure for itself almost a year of calm rule. To the joy of Moscow, and unfortunately the United States.

Roles changed

Why did it happen that today it is Moscow that is trying with all its might to retain the power of Petro Poroshenko who declared it (unofficially, of course) the war, while the formal ally of the regime is looking for ways to demolish it?

The fact is that a lot has changed in Ukraine over the past three years. Russia, like Syria in Ukraine, needs peace and stability. Almost everything is ready for her to start her reconquest in the western direction and to finish the training, she needs literally two years of peace.

Petro Poroshenko also wants to quietly see out his presidential term. He understands that it is he who today is the main problem of Washington and he really does not want to become another “bloody dictator” in stories Of Ukraine. That is, the local interests of Kiev and Moscow coincided. And everything would be nice for them if it were not for the Americans, who didn’t like their new role - “the third one”.

The first year of government for 45-th US President Donald Trump turned out to be difficult. He inherited a very difficult foreign policy legacy from his predecessor. Russia's offensive in the Middle East, which has sharply increased in recent years, China, a dead end in Ukraine, the European fronde. All this had to be raked and corrected, and at the same time constantly parry the attacks of the "democrats" who lost the presidential race.

Project "MihoMaydan"

So, by the time Donald Trump was able to start solving the Ukrainian problem, a lot had already been lost. From the former 100% control over Kiev there were only memories. Russia was almost ready to return to Ukraine, and the United States lost most of the tools that had previously allowed them to control any Ukrainian regime.

In the 2017 year, the most persecuted in Kiev, despite official rhetoric, were not the “pro-Russian” oligarchs Medvedchuk and Novinsky, but the pro-American political projects led by Saakashvili and Levochkin.

Mikhail Saakashvili’s return to Ukraine and a desperate attempt to shake the Kiev regime is essentially a game of all-in. Attempt to add Poroshenko's regime, until he finally strengthened and sent his former sponsors away with their irrepressible appetites to control everything and everywhere.

Putin’s many-way moves: a war of all against all can begin in Kiev


But, Saakashvili is no longer the same, or Poroshenko is much smarter than Yanukovich, but the attempt to weaken the Kiev regime with the help of the Georgian Maidan failed. The population could not understand why he was anti-corruption court, when the war in the courtyard and in the refrigerator is empty.
That is why, in spite of the PR and good preparation by the second week of existence, the Maidan, organized by Saakashvili, was blown away. By the end of the second week, it became clear even to the last Kiev homeless people that nothing good would come of sitting in tents. This was for Poroshenko a signal that the circus can be closed.

"Avakovtsy", "Poroshenkovtsy", "Saakashvili", or the war of all against all



So, it's October 31. As mentioned above, Arsen Avakov struck the Maidan a long-awaited blow in the gut. Washington understood that time is no longer for days, but for hours, and if you delay, then tomorrow there will be nothing and no one to save in the Mariinsky park. And therefore, only a few hours after the decision to take the police away from the Maidan, NABU investigators detained the son of the minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and his former deputy.

Washington made it clear to Avakov that he no longer intends to retreat and the minister should make his choice right now. Either the Interior Minister then executes commands from the US Embassy, ​​or remains with his president and shares his fate.

Despite the fact that the main target in Ukraine today for Washington is Petro Poroshenko, the most difficult decision has to be taken by Arsen Avakov. He has those trumps on his hands that can tip the scales either to one or the other
The choice is very difficult and ambiguous. A mistake in this situation may cost the minister not only positions, but also heads.

So, the stakes in Ukraine are raised to a new level. The losing party risks a great deal, and therefore so far the bridges are not burned and the parties can still try to come to an agreement. Because if they do not agree and the conflict enters an acute phase, then Moscow can already half celebrate its victory. The enemy, who had previously opposed it as a united front, will be finally divided and she will only have to ... strengthen support for Petro Poroshenko. For the time being, of course.
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  1. Fight
    Fight 1 November 2017 06: 34 New
    39
    What does the GDP and its, multi-way, ..!? rats eat each other ..
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 1 November 2017 06: 55 New
      33
      This is the meaning of the multi-way - to sit and watch how they devour themselves!
      1. volodya
        volodya 1 November 2017 07: 55 New
        27
        There will be Makhnovism throughout the country! What, the first time or what? In short, "Wedding in the Robin"!
        1. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 1 November 2017 09: 23 New
          20
          The bloody killers Poroshenko and Saakashvili do not need to be supported. There is only one thing that can be supported in Ukraine: so that the Ukraine project is more likely to die.
          1. boboss
            boboss 1 November 2017 10: 40 New
            0
            and that will be?
            1. 97110
              97110 1 November 2017 11: 23 New
              +2
              Quote: boboss
              and that will be?

              The salvation of "brothers" by Russia. At the expense of the people of Russia and for the benefit of the "owners" of life, which was understandable from the very beginning.
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 1 November 2017 21: 46 New
                +3
                The square in front of the Rada.
                Look at the photo, guess where to put the comma laughing

                link http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/3896874
                -aktsyia-17-oktiabria-pod-radoi-onlain
                1. BMP-2
                  BMP-2 3 November 2017 22: 19 New
                  +2
                  So there is no comma, there the whole word with two commas is missing! laughing
                  "The goats came to yougoats to endure! "
                2. AllXVahhaB
                  AllXVahhaB 5 November 2017 22: 49 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  Look at the photo, guess where to put the comma

                  Two commas.
                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 5 November 2017 23: 32 New
                    0
                    Quote: AllXVahhaB

                    Two commas.

                    Prize in the studio!
              2. NicolasFrench
                NicolasFrench 2 November 2017 10: 19 New
                0
                Yes, the Slavs but the Balgars are also Slavs And they stabbed a knife in the back more than once. So the Ukrainian brothers can also stick more than once. So let them boil in their own juice until they cleanse their country from the monsters of Nazism. Then Vanka will think who is the brother and who is the enemy.
          2. Pulya
            Pulya 1 November 2017 11: 10 New
            +3
            so that the Ukraine project is more likely to die.

            Are you minded ???
            The Slovenians live there. Our media washed your brains, now there is hatred and insanity ... by the way, just like the other side, insanity is there.
            1. staviator
              staviator 1 November 2017 12: 49 New
              12
              The Slovenians live there. Our media washed your brain

              Slovens? What is that new race? request
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 1 November 2017 21: 24 New
                +6
                Quote: staviator
                The Slovenians live there. Our media washed your brain

                Slovens? What is that new race? request

                Apparently, he through Google translator dashed off this comment !!!! yes laughing laughing
            2. Warrior with machine gun
              Warrior with machine gun 1 November 2017 13: 49 New
              +8
              that they attacked like that, well, a person was mistaken, probably wanted to write a EuroUkraine project, and on the other hand, how many Jews can be saved who are ready to stab in the back at any convenient time, if there are a lot of normal people, then what are they sitting on the backside exactly, instead to cut down these bloodsuckers, they wait until they do everything for them? good, they climbed into shit-mo, let them crawl out themselves.
            3. Conrad
              Conrad 1 November 2017 17: 08 New
              +4
              And what is the relationship between
              Quote: Pulya
              project "Ukraine"

              и
              Quote: Pulya
              The Slovenians live there.

              They lived there before the project "Ukraine" and I hope they will live after. And this project itself spoils life and the Slavs who live there, and all those around, and not only the Slavs, but also to all normal people !!
            4. Vadim88
              Vadim88 3 November 2017 18: 16 New
              +1
              First, let all the galloping, moskalyakunagulyayuschie, ziguyu and other geeks-descendants of the great beetles answer. Moreover, let them answer in an indicative way. The remaining textbooks will be copied, the monuments to Bandera and other heroes dumped into the Dnieper, in general, there will be enough work on the mistakes. Here Vanka will think about the enemy and brother. To think, take your time.
          3. Naum
            Naum 2 November 2017 17: 34 New
            +1
            Yes, the agony of the Ruins has taken hold of something ... I remember that in 2014 they were given a lethal outcome. Even he himself believed that the Maidan spawn seemed so obscene. But the fourth year has been a process. Everyone is tired of this abomination order. From somewhere, however, the strength comes from banderlog for further existence.
        2. zoolu350
          zoolu350 1 November 2017 09: 27 New
          +6
          Only this wedding is completely under the control of the owners of the Fed, because their task is to create a chaos zone on the border of the Russian Federation, and the Russian oligarchy sits and does not lift a finger to turn the situation in favor of the Russian Federation.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 1 November 2017 10: 03 New
            12
            Quote: zoolu350
            and the oligarchy of the Russian Federation sits and does not move a finger to turn the situation in favor of the Russian Federation

            GYYY laughing laughing laughing
            Okay. Keep laughing, and I will work for now ... I’ll come again, don’t delay wink
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 1 November 2017 10: 05 New
              +5
              And in the case, what can I say? Laughing for no reason is a sign of fooling around.
            2. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 1 November 2017 15: 20 New
              0
              That work is good is good, but the fact that it’s shit so far is not good.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 2 November 2017 06: 22 New
                +7
                Quote: Captain Pushkin
                ... but the fact that so far it’s getting shit is bad

                What is it about, dear? Do not beguiled anything? Right? wink
          2. 97110
            97110 1 November 2017 11: 26 New
            0
            Quote: zoolu350
            and the oligarchy of the Russian Federation sits and does not lift a finger to turn the situation in favor of the Russian Federation.

            They think of their benefit. And then someone else’s benefit?
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 1 November 2017 12: 57 New
              +3
              Everything is clear about the benefit of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, but Edoluby and adherents of the KhPP in the VO believe that the oligarchy of the Russian Federation suffers from people and Russia, and so much so that caviar does not go into the throat.
        3. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 1 November 2017 21: 20 New
          +6
          There will be Makhnovism throughout the country!

          What does it mean to be? Already, actually ...
      2. Andrey1961
        Andrey1961 1 November 2017 10: 47 New
        +2
        To sit on the shore and wait for the enemy troupes to pass by !!!
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 1 November 2017 11: 47 New
          +3
          Only in this way can one become a corpse itself.
      3. 34 region
        34 region 1 November 2017 11: 09 New
        +7
        06.55. Ankl! Yeah! The meaning of mnogogodovka, to give the outskirts of the United States, and then wait when it returns to Russia? winked Gorbachev also had a multi-way trip, to give Russia to the West and wait for it to rise? belay
        1. Midshipman
          Midshipman 1 November 2017 12: 47 New
          +7
          The birth of the new is possible only after the death of the old. In this case, the death of "Ukrainians" and the birth of Ukraine. For Russia, it is best for Ukraine to destroy itself, which is now happening. At the same time, Crimea and the Donbass were the catalyst for this process, specially launched at the moment when it became clear that otherwise this Ukraine would consolidate completely and nothing could be done with it. In relation to the USSR-Russia, this rule worked, and it does not matter whether the bastard was Gorbachev or a fool.
          1. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 5 November 2017 22: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Midshipman
            At the same time, Crimea and Donbass were the catalyst for this process, specially launched at that moment.

            Are you too high on our leaders?
    2. Yurasumy
      1 November 2017 07: 51 New
      +4
      It is necessary to organize the process of devouring in such a way that, as a result, you do not have to be left with nothing but to get a result that satisfies you. The United States now has essentially the same problem.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 1 November 2017 11: 14 New
        +3
        07.51. Yurasumi! If Russia was unable to organize the process of non-absorption of the outskirts by the states, then how will it organize the process of devouring? Look at the LDNR were able to organize the process of eliminating patriotic commanders. And I do not know about the liquidation of the Maidan leaders. And the shelling of LDNR does not stop, and people die. Or are firing points instantly suppressed?
    3. Berber
      Berber 1 November 2017 08: 57 New
      +3
      The meaning is simple. To rats began to eat each other, you need a frozen conflict in the Donbas. If the conflict is hot, then power is in one harness. Therefore, Poroshenko is beneficial to us now. He does not fight, but pretends.
      1. Oleg Tolstoy
        Oleg Tolstoy 1 November 2017 11: 49 New
        +3
        I agree. People, especially village ones. on the contact line, it’s a pity, but in a different way, while apparently it’s impossible. Donbass is a spear with a groove for blood flow in the enemy’s body .. We must wait and not let the spear be pulled out!
    4. GeorgeSev85
      GeorgeSev85 1 November 2017 10: 40 New
      +1
      They are eating and eating chips and fly to the Crimea, they report about 2 sabotage on the gas pipeline.
    5. Proxima
      Proxima 1 November 2017 11: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: Fight
      What does the GDP and its, multi-way, ..!? .

      GDP is ubiquitous. belay .
    6. ID90
      ID90 1 November 2017 11: 58 New
      +7
      Quote: Fight
      What does the GDP and its, multi-way, ..!? rats eat each other ..

      Well, a man caved in. it happens.
      licked the sun.
    7. Finches
      Finches 1 November 2017 12: 04 New
      +3
      Miho, a long time ago a political corpse! Dummy! Americans use it in Ukraine, for lack of a better candidate, thus showing Poroshenko as second-rate as a person who failed to give Crimea the main task set for him on the carpet at the State Department! Now the Americans don’t really need him, and Trump is beginning to change little by little foreign policy priorities - Iran, DPRK ... Ukraine is more supported by the European sixes and Germany with France, because it’s deeply bogged down and you simply can’t leave the stage! Now it’s profitable for everyone to have a big civil strife between the Kiev clans and then it’ll be quiet will slip away by giving the right to rake the yellow-blocking shit to Russian Vanka! But now the question? Do we need it? So Putin has nothing to do with it - he did the main thing in time to overcome Crimea, competently and decisively, then Donbass, which overshadowed the Crimea and became the main headache of Germany and France ... Unfortunately, the blood of ordinary residents of the region!
    8. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx 1 November 2017 20: 48 New
      +2
      "Revolution" entered into phase 4, began to devour their children.
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 3 November 2017 22: 25 New
        +1
        Well, I don’t know ... It seems to me that this is still only a phase shift phase. lol
  2. shinobi
    shinobi 1 November 2017 06: 52 New
    0
    Everything will be decided by someone whose power resource is stronger. They will agree. And Mishiko, striped, seems to neatly merge this way. And from the Ruin he will only be let out with his feet forward.
    1. novel66
      novel66 1 November 2017 08: 53 New
      +6
      But why? a great option is to deport to Georgia, people ask
    2. 34 region
      34 region 1 November 2017 11: 18 New
      +5
      06.52. Shinobi! Well yes! Gently drained! Here in LDNR field commanders were very effectively eliminated. Why aren't Saakashvili being eliminated in the same way? Maybe this is the United States, not Putin?
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 1 November 2017 07: 11 New
    +2
    Everything goes as it should, and that's good.
  4. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 1 November 2017 07: 13 New
    +7
    This is all of course beautiful. But where is the mnogohodovka and what does Putin have to do with it?
    1. Moore
      Moore 1 November 2017 07: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      ..what does Putin have to do with it?

      Well then ... PTN - the supreme evil deity of all Maidanut.
      For example, without writing the runes with his name, not a single Svidomo pepelats rides on the case and not a single warehouse with a b / p explodes.
    2. Yurasumy
      1 November 2017 07: 52 New
      +1
      And how do you imagine them? As I understand it today’s Ukrainian party. It is necessary to organize the process of devouring in such a way that, as a result, you do not have to be left with nothing but to get a result that satisfies you. The United States now has essentially the same problem.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 1 November 2017 11: 22 New
        +2
        07.52. Yurasumi! The process of bringing the right people to power has been worked out to be automatic. To bring the people more compliant, they use a system of carrots and sticks, checks and balances. Therefore, there is no role for the Kremlin in opposing the Maydan. All conflicts are inherent in the program initially.
        1. 97110
          97110 1 November 2017 14: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Region 34
          incorporated in the program initially.

          The old programmer's wisdom (quite old, about 40 years old) says that "WHILE CLICK THE BUTTON, THE BACK WILL RISE!" And one cannot hope that something will happen "by default." Everything must be set explicitly!
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 1 November 2017 08: 07 New
    +4
    The series "The Wedding in the Robin" dragged on ... I wait for the moment, "I’ll cut the scythe with my sword, I'll smear the doors with tar" ...
  6. zoolu350
    zoolu350 1 November 2017 09: 20 New
    +9
    Article in the spirit: "Glory to the KhPP!" It is an absolute pulling an owl on a globe. If the owners of the Fed want to put someone else in power in Ukraine, instead of Petyuni, they will do so without any "multi-paths", because they are in full control of the situation. And the fact that the Potroshenko regime suits the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, and it’s clear to him, the Fed’s owners will replace ukrohuntu tomorrow, with frank Natsiks, the Russian oligarchy will also partner with them (not the Communists).
    1. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 5 November 2017 22: 58 New
      0
      Quote: zoolu350
      (not the Communists).

      But the Communists are not partners with anyone?
  7. captain
    captain 1 November 2017 09: 35 New
    +6
    I think Avakov isn’t ... fool and everything that he does is obviously profitable for him. But Saakashvili did not read Lenin and did not find the necessary slogans. The slogans should be mainly socio-economic. For example ; for a decent salary, for reducing (or even eliminating the income tax for low-income people) taxes, for increasing benefits for families of those killed in the ATO zone and participants. For free housing for ATO participants and the "heroes" of the Maidan .... etc. As the colleague of Kolomoisky, Mr. Filatov, wrote; You can promise everything, we will hang it later.
  8. Eurodav
    Eurodav 1 November 2017 09: 42 New
    +7
    Posted by: Yuri Podolyaka ...
    Oh, these multi-paths ... oh, these multi-paths ... The author often sees the GDP sometimes, he spreads everything to him ...
  9. erofich
    erofich 1 November 2017 09: 53 New
    +1
    Yes, CNN will soon write that these are the intrigues of the Kremlin and Russian hackers hacked into Kiev computers. Because of this, patriots of the Maidan dispersed.
  10. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 1 November 2017 10: 18 New
    10
    A herd of clowns. Wild field, Makhnovshchina. History goes in a spiral.
  11. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 1 November 2017 10: 29 New
    +4
    In this mess, only primitive animal principles apply. All participants:
    1. They want to steal money (they don’t know how and don’t want to earn money), why do we need power - and Poroshenko is aimed at this, and Saakashvili (though he receives money from another source laughing ) and Avakov - that the eldest, that the younger.
    2. No one is going to fight corruption - neither NABU, nor Poroshenko, nor the anti-goat Saakashvili, nor Avakov. Rather, everyone is ready to fight the corruption of opponents, but not personally. laughing The United States also does not care about Ukrainian corruption; they have other goals.
    3. All individually and in a crowd spit on the people; people spit on miho-maidan; all (and halloween participants laughing and the people) spit on the law; disassemblers spit on each other. General spitting. laughing

    Putin has nothing to do with it. am
    1. boboss
      boboss 1 November 2017 10: 42 New
      +2
      straight desert .... with a herd of camels
  12. Overlock
    Overlock 1 November 2017 10: 36 New
    +4
    honestly tired of these PR-opuses in favor of GDP. In Ukraine, there is a struggle of all against all and we have nothing to do with it. If you read the ravings of the author Podolyaka, but Putin’s agents fight with Putin’s agents to imprison Putin’s agents who fight with other Putin’s agents. So soon we get that Poroshenko, Avakov, Saakashvili are agents of Putin, but belong to different towers of the Kremlin. Similar opuses are at the level of the yellow newspapers.
    1. Sonet
      Sonet 1 November 2017 15: 25 New
      +1
      So after all, we have the presidential election in half a year. People need to at least something to rub into saying that our future president was successful in Ukraine, and not that he has long been merged with this topic with phrases - ,, Eee, we are deeply concerned and urge,
  13. Dyagilev
    Dyagilev 1 November 2017 10: 43 New
    +1
    It is clear why this wolf Walker talked about the occupation of the LPR of the DPR: the classic move is to find and pounce on an external “enemy” to delay time from the start of a bloody internal bickering.
  14. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 1 November 2017 10: 46 New
    +9
    Some kind of nonsense. Ukraine is a real, motivated enemy. Of course, as a result of all these micro and mini maidans, it is no longer one vectorial and the “face” command from the Potomac can already not be executed. The adhesion of these powders, turchinovye, avakova is tied with blood and civil strife among them will not affect the situation. Ukraine lives solely on money from the United States and Europe. And this is like a leash for her. They must be let go, they must be squeezed. No need to roll your lip in Ukraine.
    It is possible that the owners are heating up the situation in order to radicalize power. Something strange happened in Barcelona. PutschDimon brought people to the streets, under the flag of independence. And faded ..... Maybe this movement was modeled overseas? And be a signal for Europe to unite and never allow this to happen? What is the following? Russia? Swelling separatism? Disorder? And telephone attacks on the Russian Federation? After all, they are centralized. And then there is Matilda, Sobchak, Gordon and A. Chekhov in the presidency .....
    Today I read in the news the opinion of the State Duma deputy on defense about the American special forces, which is gathering around the western borders of Russia. Deputy A. Sherin (State Duma Defense Committee) made a nuclear attack on our “partners” in the event of aggression. And he compared the situation with 1941.
    Americans are far from simpletons. And they study history well, especially the military and, of course, the Wehrmacht attack on the USSR. There, the DRG Brandenburg 800 distinguished themselves. The "sleeping" were raised on the border of the USSR. The group destroyed communications, rearranged road signs, destroyed officers, and spread panic. Disguised Germans in the form of officers of the NKVD penetrated into military units.
    Naturally, the Kremlin’s plans are not known to me. But I think that they will use nuclear weapons at the last moment or the Dead Hand (if any) is activated. But the West can use the KR, for example, in the Kaliningrad region. I can imagine what a panic will be. Further "Brandenburg 800" is American. And what to do? Peel nuclear weapons in their own way. The Americans believe that they are not vulnerable on their island. (Although there was a lesson from the Japanese.) From this they play war games. It is necessary to somehow deprive them of the illusions of a refuge island.
    As for Ukraine. GDP error to introduce troops in the year 14. If you decided, drove the troops and had permission from the parliament, you had to do it. The opinion that the Ukrainians opposed the people and we would be stuck, nonsense. 70% of the inhabitants - they are the ones who care about power. 5% of active fled to Poland, which would have had a lot of hemorrhoids with them. 5-10 days and this abscess would crumble. And what about the West? Well, he would have imposed sanctions, the UN would have cracked everything. For Crimea - seven troubles one answer. Yes, then in Ukrainian, many would have been happy with our presence. And there would be no problems with Transnistria and many others. Still sitting on the brink of war. But! the train left. What is done is done. One pleases no US base in the Crimea.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 1 November 2017 10: 50 New
      +5
      but will be in Kharkov
    2. Whaler
      Whaler 1 November 2017 11: 18 New
      11
      They started quite digestible, but the last paragraph is something)) a ​​completely idiotic "conclusion", excuse me hi you are most likely completely unfamiliar with the situation and moods in the so-called "Ukrainian society", since you say such things ... neither 70, nor 80% of them will do the weather there, but with 10% of those frozen, what to do, destroy ?! So they are all local, they have relatives, friends, etc. You can’t hope that they will run away somewhere there. most have nowhere to run and nothing ... There would be fierce armed resistance and sabotage .... and Russia was 100% thrown out of the Security Council, or even completely from the UN, the information line would be great and a way would be found (the precedent was from the Finnish the war in 39-40gg) + comprehensive econ. sanctions, those that are now - it’s like that, jokes .... would they impose an oil embargo, so what? six months later econ. collapse, buza, parade of sovereignty .... enough, swam - we know ((so you are either a provocateur or just a very short-sighted person .... Russia at the given time is doing everything absolutely right - active defense and comprehensive preparation for the possible hour C.
      1. zoolu350
        zoolu350 1 November 2017 12: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: Whaler
        It would be fierce armed resistance and sabotage .... and Russia was 100% thrown out of the Security Council, or even completely from the UN, the information line would be great and a way would be found (the precedent was with the Finnish war in 39-40) + a comprehensive econ. sanctions, those that are now - it’s like that, jokes .... would they impose an oil embargo, so what? six months later econ. collapse, buza, parade of sovereignty .... enough, swam - we know ((so you are either a provocateur or just a very short-sighted person .... Russia at the given time is doing everything absolutely right - active defense and comprehensive preparation for the possible hour C.

        What a pearl! Throw out one of its creators from the UN! Crush ukrohunt in 2014. the oligarchy of the Russian Federation had all the possibilities (a legitimate president, that is, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine). As events in the Crimea showed, the APU was practically not defended. So there is no need to whitewash the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, which, having all the trump cards in its hands, simply leaked to the owners of the Fed almost all of Ukraine.
        1. Tektor
          Tektor 1 November 2017 15: 16 New
          +3
          ... Crush ukrohuntu in 2014. the oligarchy of the Russian Federation had all the possibilities (a legitimate president, that is ...
          There were no opportunities: for example, the legitimate leadership of Syria made an official request for help, but there was no such request from the legitimate leadership of Ukrainians. That is the difference: GDP bases its actions on the basis of international law. Crimea had an autonomous status, and at the time of the absence of a central government, it absolutely legally raised the question of its independence to citizens in a referendum, in full accordance with the laws of Ukraine. After a positive response, the independent republic of Crimea raised the question of joining the Russian Federation, and was accepted into the composition as the subjects of the Federation.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 1 November 2017 15: 24 New
            +9
            Quote: Tektor
            Tektor

            You feed the troll. Practically, with a hand.
            See how you would not bite.
            Trolls - they are yes
          2. zoolu350
            zoolu350 2 November 2017 00: 45 New
            +1
            You only have the input of the Russian troops on your mind? And who interfered with the actions of special forces undercover APU? One could not recognize ukrokhunta at all and declare them occupiers. International law is the right of the powerful to do what they can. Could the oligarchy of the Russian Federation change the situation in Ukraine in 2014. introducing (without introducing) troops? Could. Had the strength and means for this? Had. There was no will. Like small children.
          3. Victorio
            Victorio 4 November 2017 01: 04 New
            0
            Quote: Tektor
            and from the legitimate leadership of Ukrainians there was no such request.

            ===
            But didn’t there be such an appeal from Yanukovych?
      2. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN 1 November 2017 14: 18 New
        +6
        But here it is not necessary 1. About the Finnish war. A mono-ethnic nation, united - these are Finns. I live in the neighborhood and respect their dedication during the Winter War. Not corrupt, behind the Scandinavians and Germans. The union decided to throw caps. Complex TVD. The planning of the operation is not up to the mark (at the initial stage). Winter, lack of knowledge of the theater of war, poorly conducted reconnaissance. A powerful fortification fortress at that time, flanking bunkers, well camouflaged, cut off our infantry, then their infantry burned our tanks. Meretskov did not even know about the existence of such bunkers! And finally, Karl Gustav Mannerheim - the commander-in-chief at the monument to whom the GDP laid a wreath during the visit.
        I hope you understand that the GDP will not lay wreaths on the grave of Pedro? And their whole gang is not worth 1/100 K. Mannerheim. From Yushchenko onwards. And Pedro Commander !!!!!!!
        2. I am familiar with the situation in Ukraine. He worked with the Ukrainians sane. One comrade-in-law of a Jewish mother-in-law (!!!) (he is a Ukrainian himself, wife of a Jew) in Odessa with a gun went to Kulikovo Field to rallies for Russia. And there were a lot of people and they were waiting for our Army. The city was seething. Therefore, they burned it.
        3. There would be no sabotage. Part of the people was for Russia. These are not only Russians, but also mixed families. Yes, there were opponents. It is more likely Galitsai and the part who received a gesheft from the power. And as in any society - a swamp.
        4. When troops enter, the people would have to polarize: who is for the junta, and who is for the people. There would be a split in military units. But of course - there would be resistance. And who says that it is easy to treat a running disease.
        5. UN and others. Georgia was forced to peace. So what? Ossetia Abkhazia, Syria. Yes, I almost forgot Crimea! Yes, a show of strength would immediately inspire respect from all.
        6. How do “you” know me that I am a very narrow-minded person. I read your nonsense. It looks like you and the ptu did not finish. And for the provocateur, you can get it. Do not dissolve your tongue. I expressed my opinion, do not agree - reasonably explain. And about your sanctions - so they all the same introduced. Oil and gas embargo? And what would drown Europe in winter.? With wood? This is your stove and you judge the whole of Europe! Have you ever been there?
        7. Bottom line - got an abscess near the border. I won’t be surprised if they attack us through him. And the activity in the NW is a distraction from the attack from Ukraine. Maybe?
    3. Oleg Tolstoy
      Oleg Tolstoy 1 November 2017 11: 43 New
      +5
      As for Ukraine. GDP error to introduce troops in the year 14. If you decided, drove the troops and had permission from the parliament, you had to do it.


      And where did you get the idea that there was a “permission of the parliament” and what was the “introduction of troops”? Do you indicate the document number? I don’t recall any propagandist preparing such an operation, such as the one in 1939 .. There was help in organizing resistance and logistical support, there was help from volunteers and “vacationers” - contract soldiers organized by the PMC principle in the most difficult periods when frostbitten Dobrobat and milled heavy weapons of the frozen nenki. All this is not only in the strategic interests of Russia but also in the interests of one very large, but still private Russian raw-material monopoly in which only 70 thousand people work and its money. It was simply impossible otherwise at that time! They achieved a lot, lost a minimum of Russian citizens ... Strengthened their positions in the World ... Of course, a march to Kiev would be right, it would be in our, in Russian. And the analysis of the sinking of forces, the forecast of the consequences. Loss of the old gas pipeline, terrorist attacks in the Russian Federation, partisan, from the Bandera as in the 50-80s, 15 years, etc.? We must still be patient, and this gadyushnik himself will explode!
      1. zoolu350
        zoolu350 1 November 2017 12: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Oleg Tolstoy
        And the analysis of the sinking of forces, the forecast of the consequences. Loss of the old gas pipeline, terrorist attacks in the Russian Federation, partisan, from the Bandera in the 50-80s, 15 years, etc. We must still be patient, and this gadyushnik himself will explode!

        And another 10 years passed, and they all endured until they jumped into Kazan and the Caucasus. Do we tolerate further or enough?
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 1 November 2017 13: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Oleg Tolstoy
        There was help in organizing resistance and material and technical supplies, there was help with volunteers and “vacationers” - contract soldiers organized on the basis of PMCs in the most difficult periods when frostbitten kindling and heavy armaments of frostbitten nenka were crushed.

        Thank God they broke the ridge of Bandera scum, but now another misfortune is coming, the Americans are arming and training Banderlogs, and this threatens an armed conflict on our border with this Bantustan.
        1. 97110
          97110 1 November 2017 14: 43 New
          0
          Quote: Sandov
          but now another misfortune is coming, the Americans

          what, bought Putin? Other troubles - not troubles, so introductory on MBJS.
      3. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN 1 November 2017 14: 34 New
        +2
        It was the permission of the Federation Council to use aircraft abroad. Take an interest in number and date. Maneuvers began on the state border. Ukrainians were scared and talked on the radio with officers of the RF Armed Forces like us for shcho? I don’t know the data on the units of the RF Armed Forces; I read it on the websites.
        The viper will never explode itself NEVER. How not to explode in Georgia and other countries. In the same Syria. Now is such a time and a situation that only aircraft can “blow up”. Unfortunately...
    4. Sonet
      Sonet 1 November 2017 15: 28 New
      +1
      Yes, it was not necessary to send troops in the year 14. It was just necessary to leave Yanukovych in Crimea or in Donetsk, to assign Russian special forces to him, and then Ukraine itself would split into opponents and supporters of Yanukovych. And the military would not have to capture Crimea, the military in the southeast Ukraine, therefore, would fulfill all the orders of Yanukovych.
      1. zoolu350
        zoolu350 2 November 2017 00: 55 New
        +1
        And the strategy of non-direct actions does not reach adherents of the KhPP. They have one principle, once troops cannot be entered (but it is impossible only to the Russian Federation, other states are not shy in such situations), then nothing can be done. But ukrohunta did not hesitate to immediately begin to take control of the APU itself.
      2. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 2 November 2017 06: 19 New
        +9
        Quote: Sonet
        Yanukovych left in the Crimea or in Donetsk, put Russian special forces to him and then Ukraine itself would split into opponents and supporters of Yanukovych

        Yanukovych (who is the essence of a thief patented) did not have supporters in Ukraine then. And now they are gone request
        So what about "it would have split itself" - "it is unlikely" (c)
        Quote: Sonet
        And Crimea wouldn’t have to be captured; the military in the south-east of Ukraine would have complied with all Yanukovych’s orders

        Rzhunimagu, I am writing from under the table: are these the same "military" that "America with us" shouted? good recourse laughing
  15. Whaler
    Whaler 1 November 2017 10: 48 New
    +3
    Quote: zoolu350
    Only this wedding is completely under the control of the owners of the Fed, because their task is to create a chaos zone on the border of the Russian Federation, and the Russian oligarchy sits and does not lift a finger to turn the situation in favor of the Russian Federation.

    Yeah)) sit such Rassay oligarchs, all in incomprehensible recourse and waiting for advice ... especially your advice yes
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 1 November 2017 12: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Whaler
      Yeah)) sit such Rassay oligarchs, all in incomprehensible recourse and waiting for advice ... especially your advice yes

      The oligarchy of the Russian Federation is precisely in the understandings and this is the most vile.
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 1 November 2017 15: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Whaler
      Yeah)) sit such Rassay oligarchs, all in incomprehensible recourse and are waiting for advice ... especially your advice yes

      Duc, just according to the understandings of the Rassay oligarchs of Donetsk, was stopped in the summer of 2014, they did not allow Mariupol to be taken and the Kiev army, which was broken up at that time, was driven to the borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
      Is it all right? But they did without advice, managed their minds ...
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 2 November 2017 07: 28 New
        +9
        Quote: Captain Pushkin
        The Donetsk people were stopped in the summer of 2014, they were not allowed to take Mariupol and drive the Kiev army, which was broken up at that time, to the borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions

        They could drive them away, maybe they would drive them away ... but with what would they then hold on to? LDNR is kept within its current borders, and thanks for that.
        Zadolbali sofa warriors negative
  16. Whaler
    Whaler 1 November 2017 10: 55 New
    +3
    NABU whose ?! pindoskoe)) pindos hid the younger Avakyan .... this is a visual aid for you to effectively manage such a country as yours .... there is compra at all, the instrument (NABU) is ready, almost something is wrong, the dongle and the zugunder are .. .. zugzwang is shorter - everywhere opa and nowhere to run)) otaka it is just independent, it is impossible to lie under anyone for a long time laughing lol
  17. Andrey1961
    Andrey1961 1 November 2017 10: 58 New
    +4
    Beat your own so that others are afraid!
    The funding for this bedlam will end, and all this bacchanalia will end, on an empty stomach with some slogans you can’t rally for a long time!
  18. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 1 November 2017 11: 15 New
    0
    Help Petya Become the Chocolate King Again lol
  19. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 1 November 2017 11: 23 New
    0
    Quote: Overlock
    but will be in Kharkov

    But for this, including the kunaki of Strelkov and Mozgovoy, they came to the Donbass to prevent any noticeable military formations of the USA or NATO on the balcony in front of Russia's southern throat in the Black Sea and 500 km from the western border of Kazakhstan, access to which cuts off the Russian Federation and the Caspian
  20. demo
    demo 1 November 2017 11: 45 New
    +2
    Everything's OK. Only one BUT!
    Avakov’s independence is an absolutely absurd statement.
    As well as the independence of Poroshenko.
    Here, not two or three different teams played against each other.
    There is one boss - the United States.
    Money invested - work it out.
    All initiative is punished.
    According to the logic of the author’s thoughts, the pawns of the Kiev regime imagined themselves to be queens.
    And where is the grandmaster?
    Got a smoke?
    I do not believe.
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 1 November 2017 12: 05 New
      +2
      Of course, everything in Ukraine’s ukrareich is under the control of the owners of the Fed, but the fact that the lackeys decided to fight, it’s even funny for the owners of the Fed because the authorities provide not only material benefits, but also moral ones.
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 1 November 2017 15: 37 New
      0
      Comrade demo, I was just thinking: if in Kiev the interests of different households clashed: the owner of Mihomaydan was sitting on that end of the puddle and the master was sitting there at Pan Pedro, but in a different office. And what is quite real: a dispute between two corporations. Beat me with a shovel by Satan, if I believe that the corporation lives in peace and friendship, and then the "lohmach" and the "baboons" still clashed
  21. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 1 November 2017 11: 53 New
    +4
    Quote: GeorgeSev85
    They are eating and eating chips and fly to the Crimea, they report about 2 sabotage on the gas pipeline.


    And Crimea is the same frontier, near the Donbass ... It’s difficult, but the lack of military bases of a civilizational enemy in the southern underbelly of Russia is worth all these hardships. Yes, the salvation of Artek from the ripped-up banderlogs is worth the whole story! In Chechnya, they fought for so many years for what ?, not only for gas from Gazprom ... And now everything is the same, only the blow to us has been transferred to another flank
  22. Sandov
    Sandov 1 November 2017 12: 57 New
    +2
    GDP God or what? The Nazis in Ukraine are fighting for power and manger. And the sooner they devour each other, the faster the people will be freed from this Amer’s misfortune.
  23. Vadim72
    Vadim72 1 November 2017 12: 58 New
    +4
    Quote: SCHWERIN

    GDP error to introduce troops in the year 14 ...

    Much agree, but not with this. Just imagine what would happen if, in the year 14, all sanctions from all sectional packages adopted in three years and not yet adopted were immediately imposed against us. The consolidation of the conditional “West” in '14 was much higher than now. If we recall the 14th year, all the dependencies and problems of our economy ... Yes, even on my neck there is a post-war war ...
    Now, it’s easier to withstand sanctions. Even if they introduce the entire arsenal of the law signed by Trump, they will put pressure on all their allies -
    our videoconferencing has already raised oil to 60, in three years we have laid the foundation for food security, import substitution has allowed us to abandon many technological dependencies, we have become completely independent of the USA and satellites financially ...
    We still do not want to aggravate relations, we would have another year, two, or three peaceful lives, complete re-equipment, create an economic reserve, and bring import substitution to its logical end ...
    But even now we are ready to gasp if they stick to the wall.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 1 November 2017 15: 29 New
      0
      Vadim, but in fact, you are largely right. But let the part partially disagree with you: when Janka rode like a hare, we could send troops (at the request of the legitimate authorities). Then one kind of our military was enough to brighten up in some heads (remember in the Crimean Way to Home d / f episode when they wanted to repel the Semfiropol Airport by force and saw our marines "back crayfish"). Now it’s difficult to start hostilities: the West is still split, and then there will be a reason to unite
      1. ID90
        ID90 1 November 2017 18: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Monarchist
        Semfiropolsky

        city ​​SIMFEROPOL!
    2. SCHWERIN
      SCHWERIN 1 November 2017 16: 51 New
      +3
      I.V. Stalin was waiting too. Waited 2 years. Echelons of goods went to Germany, ships stood idle in Hamburg. He allowed the Wehrmacht to deploy forces on the state border. Do not succumb to provocations. So what? The merit of Stalin, before the war he created a buffer - the Baltic states. This allowed our border guards, fighters of the Red Army to detain the Germans at the cost of their lives. The GRU proved to Stalin that Japan would not attack the USSR and transfer divisions to the West. What now? NATO tanks (USA) are standing in front of the bridge over Narva. In Soviet times, traveled to Estonia from Leningrad. 2 hours by car without rushing. 150 km !!!!
      There is never enough time to prepare for war. Never. At that time, the APU combat potential was at zero. But they, too, were preparing together with the West. Re-equipped APU, trained. Reformatted the population. All the costs that we would have incurred if troops were sent to Ukraine (protecting the population from banditry, for example) were hundreds of times less than if a real war would soon begin.
      This is the same if 08.08.08 we would instead of forcing Georgia to peace every day would conduct a talk show on three channels 5 working days a week. By the way, I do not observe the effect of the talk show. Our audience is tired of all this, but in Ukraine, confidence in Russia is falling. What is the efficiency? Olesya moved to Moscow, Kovtun bought an apartment ....
      Of course, I look at things from my bell tower and at first I also thought that it was right that the troops had not entered, but now I have revised this position. They can reproach me that there would be victims. Yes, but there would be hundreds of times less. But unfortunately nothing can be changed. My mother, a survivor of the siege of Leningrad, said that the Baltics should not be let go. Now, on the verge of war, I understand that she was right. As the ancients said you want peace ...
      1. myobius59
        myobius59 1 November 2017 18: 46 New
        0
        Yes, you wrote it right. The way it is. 100%
  24. Irina Krivtsova
    Irina Krivtsova 1 November 2017 13: 21 New
    +1
    Although they bit each other there or united and all bit the Americans together.
  25. Oleg Andreev
    Oleg Andreev 1 November 2017 14: 04 New
    +1
    Avakov is a competitor to Petit, and this is the opportunity to hook, stretch, pacify, intimidate. But no, they will let my son go and freeze. And where does the GDP come from?
  26. Bosch
    Bosch 1 November 2017 14: 35 New
    0
    Banderlog themselves drove themselves into a corner, and now they are looking for the culprit. It’s immediately obvious that the grandfathers of Krylov’s Khokhlov did not read the fables, and after all, almost everything was written about them.
  27. Monarchist
    Monarchist 1 November 2017 15: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: Nikolay S.
    The bloody killers Poroshenko and Saakashvili do not need to be supported. There is only one thing that can be supported in Ukraine: so that the Ukraine project is more likely to die.

    That's just for this you can add a tiny weight to the scales.
  28. Sonet
    Sonet 1 November 2017 15: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    This is the meaning of the multi-way - to sit and watch how they devour themselves!

    ,, Mnogokhodovka ,, - this is when you calculate everything a few steps ahead. And our ,, Collector of Russey’s land, all these 3 years stupidly observes how everything will end there in Ukraine, in the hope that Ukrainians will not attack the fool Crimea, it will be a fiasco for Putin, because he once ruled out the Russian-Ukrainian war .... You might think it depends on him.
  29. Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin 1 November 2017 15: 40 New
    0
    "Washington made it clear to Avakov that he no longer intends to retreat and the minister must make his choice right now. Either the interior minister then carries out commands from the US embassy, ​​or remains with his president and shares his fate."

    Rather, it was a bit wrong.
    Graters at Poroshenko with Avakov is not the first year.
    Walker came to Ukraine to push Poroshenko to a more plausible imitation of the implementation of the Minsk Agreement. Poroshenko used the situation - he indicated with his finger that Avakov was preventing him from achieving credibility and asked for permission to pinch his scrotum through his son.
    Avakov, of course, received this information and emotionally played a lead, decided to show his significance - defiantly removed the protection of the Rada.
  30. tracer
    tracer 1 November 2017 17: 13 New
    0
    Have you noticed? Who noticed that on “ours” the uniform “sits” from the soldier to the general as on the Germans before the war. And on these sad clowns it looks exactly like a clown outfit in the arena. But the show goes on ...
  31. serj.iwanow1000
    serj.iwanow1000 1 November 2017 17: 16 New
    0
    I will read you my poem,
    Good fellows lesson,
    To think sometimes
    You are not an asshole - your head!
    Oh, I tell you, friends,
    Like in the meeting of Haluya
    In the forest near the ancient wattle
    Gathered many beasts!
    They gathered there then
    To discuss all the details,
    Like a rogue snake
    Capture all the kaganate!
    They fumbled, rowed,
    How to catch the Serpent-Gorynych,
    Catch, tie and blame
    Put a viper in jail!
    Among them was seen Kashchei,
    Well-known villain in the area,
    I strangled all those who disagree
    Who abstained planted!
    And those who stayed squealed
    Galdel, jumped, squeaked
    And indignantly, they didn’t give
    Peacefully hold the meeting!
    Then our king of animals took the floor,
    Known to everyone as Barmaley.
    That cat breed was,
    He did not like to talk much!
    There were rumors around the district,
    That Leo and Gorynych were friends.
    Having drunk mead together
    He shared prey with a snake!
    And Leo said, growling at all:
    Do not rush haste!
    After all, the rogue snake is a three-headed one!
    And breathes fiery fire!
    You need to leave everything as it is,
    And gradually weave the network,
    To catch a rogue then
    Eat him or punish him!
    Banish from the Forest il kill,
    And it’s better for us to make friends with him!
    After all, the Serpent-Gorynych, oh, is smart,
    Tough, crafty and strong!
    Then rose and barking!
    And only the cunning Parrot,
    How to kick loudly from branches:
    Our king is smarter, he knows better!
    He is not impoverished in wisdom
    His words are law to all!
    Don’t dare to disobey him,
    And then the lashes will get!
    And many suddenly agreed
    Quiet right away, hiding!
    Though democracy in the forest
    Scared to fear the king!
    But suddenly found among animals
    One ignoramus and plebeian.
    He was known as a bear in the district,
    He did not like verbiage!
    And the Bear roared in response:
    We all need to be stunned
    To endure such a robbery!
    Who should I go to wait?
    After all, there’s no food in the forest,
    Devoured the viper-snake fruit!
    Now there is no honey anywhere
    And all the beast is in such trouble!
    Then the deer took a dashing word:
    I eat foliage, grass.
    There are no problems for us ungulates!
    So why should we worry?
    The cat began to meow and mock:
    We need to turn to people!
    And the smartest of people is
    Great Uncle Sorcerer!
    He served when he was in the KGB,
    Here right next to the village!
    He is not deprived of reason,
    Everyone goes to him to bow!
    We need to bow to him,
    Share our misfortune
    His advice to be inspired
    How can we protect ourselves from a snake!
    Then the donkey woke up completely
    And most likely went nuts
    He began to roar
    And scold someone else's way!
    And the boa suddenly broke up,
    He began to hiss at all, wound up,
    I’ll dunk donkey right now,
    If necessary, swallow!
    You are completely crazy
    Has everyone reached the point of absurdity?
    What is among our masters
    There are no sorcerers?
    Yes, even take a rooster
    He always served in the CIA!
    Sensible he will give you advice,
    After all, he gave a holy dinner!
    Monkeys made everything hot
    And then, as they shouted:
    Moskalyaku on gilyaka,
    Do not agree to the knives!
    Again all the animals roared
    Jumped and rustled
    They didn’t give
    The meeting is peaceful to pass!
    To the noise, the wolves tore apart
    Goat, ram and donkey!
    And imposed their will
    Leo and Bear, as always!
    And a decision was made
    King of beasts
    With a serpent, discuss troubles,
    To give a fox and hares!
    Beasts dismiss the assembly
    And the strike is banned!
    With the wolves to create a pack of guards,
    To answer for the order!
    So that the Serpent-Gorynych does not become impudent
    And he did not dare to rob a lot,
    The king took him to prison,
    Let the world come in the forest everywhere!
    But the Serpent-Gorynych was a scoundrel,
    Unclean businessman!
    He began to be friends with wolves,
    Prey to share all with them!
    He removed Leo from power,
    He put a bear in a cage
    I dispersed many ungulates
    Who managed, that gobbled up!
    And the animal race began to thin
    Everywhere confusion began!
    And they began to steal everything
    Rob each other, kill!
    The forest began to rot quickly
    Bushes, trees to fade,
    Gullies began to appear
    Swamps grow wider!
    ***
    The forest fell into several parts,
    He began to rule his villain in each part.
    And the animals began to die out everywhere
    And the forest began to die in a rotten environment!
    Who is to blame for such a dashing misfortune?
    Perhaps the king with a bad head
    Or the one who shouted from the branches:
    "Our King is great, smart, he knows better"?
    The moral of this wise tale is that
    Do not let the thief to power,
    Robber, rogue scoundrel
    And an evil, greedy businessman-liar!
    And it’s better to catch crooks right away,
    How to hold congresses and meetings,
    In great sorrow then pouring tears
    Destroy the country or the state!
    ***
    A fairy tale was told to you by friends,
    To always remember
    That believing in promises
    Trouble will come to you again!
  32. novik1
    novik1 1 November 2017 18: 20 New
    +1
    What are you pushing into every hole in Putin? They themselves are biting and do not need any external power. So these maidnuptny are arranged, to convene something, so no, to break up - please!
  33. myobius59
    myobius59 1 November 2017 18: 37 New
    0
    Quote: Pulya
    so that the Ukraine project is more likely to die.

    Are you minded ???
    The Slovenians live there. Our media washed your brains, now there is hatred and insanity ... by the way, just like the other side, insanity is there.

    So what? Do we now have to take off your last pants because of your Slovenia, or fight to go for you? I talked with your "Slovenian", there was not yet Crimea, not Donbass, - until the age of 14. Thugs, thugs. And there are also such "Slovens" as Poles, Czechs, Bulgarians, Hungarians, and other Slovaks and Romanians. It’s also not better than the Ukrainians. Slightly something, they immediately poke us with knives in the back, as during the last war.
    Nafig us such "Slovenia" as something yourself, without you, as you are without us.
    1. ganjin
      ganjin 3 November 2017 15: 10 New
      0
      Maybe Hungarians and Romanians you mentioned for a heap, but they are not Slavs.
  34. neoshef
    neoshef 1 November 2017 18: 38 New
    0
    Well, gentlemen! Looking forward to a big bad boom?
  35. Vadim72
    Vadim72 1 November 2017 20: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Monarchist
    Vadim, but in fact, you are largely right. But let the part partially disagree with you: when Janka rode like a hare, we could send troops (at the request of the legitimate authorities). Then one kind of our military was enough to brighten up in some heads (remember in the Crimean Way to Home d / f episode when they wanted to repel the Semfiropol Airport by force and saw our marines "back crayfish"). Now it’s difficult to start hostilities: the West is still split, and then there will be a reason to unite

    A film is a film, but life is another matter. And Semferopol is not Kiev. I do not think that after Syria the image of the RF Armed Forces somehow worsened. Yes, the proxy war in the Donbass, unfortunately, will continue, a year, two or three, until the complete collapse of the independent. But NATO troops on our border are not from the outskirts, but rather from Syria. This is a gesture of escalating, raising rates, nothing more, but the capitalists will not dare to start a war with the Russian Federation - definitely. The United States has long ceased to be a state, this is an interpretation in which it is governed not by the people, not by the elites, but by the owners (shareholders). The most important thing for them is money, and a war with the Russian Federation can result in enormous losses. Too much risk, and professionals are involved in risk assessment by shareholders, it’s whoever gets into politics, since politics in the USA is just a show for people. Politicians do not decide anything there. They are not even willing to take risks with the DPRK, one warhead that exploded in the territory of the hegimon may not destroy anything, kill no one, it may simply drop the exchanges and destroy everything "acquired by overwork."
  36. Victor Detective South
    Victor Detective South 1 November 2017 22: 57 New
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    We stock up on pop corn! Winter will be more interesting than in 2014.
  37. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 1 November 2017 23: 30 New
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    Somehow cheerful, optimistic ...
  38. p-evgeniy87
    p-evgeniy87 2 November 2017 00: 40 New
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    according to the sick imagination of the author of the GDP, he agreed with Trump that they recognize the loser tie in dill, and that Zakvakova should be dismissed as the Minister of internal affairs
  39. tank64rus
    tank64rus 3 November 2017 10: 09 New
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    Saving the drowning is the work of the drowning. A flag in their hands and a drum on their neck.
  40. Tanyagoga50
    Tanyagoga50 3 November 2017 10: 16 New
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    Good GDP! I waited for the spiders in the bank to eat each other. May God grant them a good appetite
  41. ganjin
    ganjin 3 November 2017 15: 05 New
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    It is vaguely believed that the United States lost somewhere. What Poroshenko is no longer controlled by the United States? He does not rely on them, does not wait for weapons, Walker does not represent their interests in negotiations, etc. etc.? Or maybe they left the SBU? That Poroshenko, that Saakashvili for them, in my opinion, is violet. And the internal squabble of all against all can lead to an all-Ukrainian squabble, and it is not clear how this stabilizes the situation on the border with Russia and how does it benefit Moscow? In my opinion, the article gives wishful thinking. If only suddenly the whole elite does not kill each other, because there are few adequate in power or aspiring to power, and it is not clear to whom Russia can be put (from more or less large figures) that there would be pro-Russian views, but at least neutral ones.