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"High-Mobility" won the paratroopers in Ukraine

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What happened was talked about a long time ago. Almost from the beginning of the ATO in Ukraine. Ukrainian paratroopers abandoned the blue berets. Now they use maroon colors. I will not be afraid of this comparison, the Ukrainian paratroopers now use the colors of the sunset ... The colors of the end of the day. Instead of color height. Instead of the color of elevation above the ground ... What is it?


"High-Mobility" won the paratroopers in Ukraine


Once upon a time, in an era of serious confrontation with the United States and NATO, General Margelov decided to use the color of the sky to designate a new kind of military. Not the color of venous blood, namely the sky. This decision was greeted with hostility by many military leaders of the time. And for exactly the same reasons that the Ukrainian authorities are giving as an argument today. "It's different for everyone."

Yes, in Ukraine today there are no airborne forces. There are highly mobile airborne troops. Yes, after last year’s decision on the separation of airborne troops and special operations forces, which are given the blue color of berets, one can argue about all this hoarse. Yes, "paratroopers of the color of the sky" remained only in those countries that were formerly Soviet republics. The report of the High Mobility Amphibious Troops Command says: "Only seven countries of the world use blue color for their airborne units. These are Russia and countries that until recently were dependent on it: Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia, Belarus, Ukraine."

Ukraine refuses the imperial past, the Soviet past. Ukraine - tseevropa. "59 countries of the world (where airborne units are not simultaneously special operations forces) use maroon beret. In particular, these are NATO 19. In some countries, airborne units that perform the role of special forces use green berets."

But most of all "kills" the main argument of the Ukrainians. "The burgundy color of the beret was not chosen by chance. It was the hats of this color that were used by the British airborne infantry, which was the first in the world to form the first full-fledged separate separate airborne division."



It's like you have to hate your own people, your own very recent historyin order to openly at the official level abandon the hundreds of thousands of courageous Ukrainian soldiers who participated in the composition of the USSR Airborne Forces in military conflicts that did not disgrace their people in Afghanistan? To "lie down" under the Anglo-Saxons ...

It is no secret that the airborne troops have always been and remain the first. Whatever happens, the soldiers in blue berets and vests will cover. Will give the opportunity to pull the main forces. Do the impossible. So it was, and so it is today.

Hundreds of thousands of veterans of the Airborne Forces in Ukraine today are humiliated and insulted. Hundreds of thousands of veterans of the Airborne Forces who, by virtue of circumstances, ended up in different countries, too. The assault brotherhood is born in fire. Someone in real combat. Someone in situations of "peaceful nature." Someone in operations, like the one that our paratroopers conducted in the former Yugoslavia.

They often write to me that in Ukraine they practically do not drop by parachute method. Not aviation, no skill. Like and not paratroopers. And tell me, can anyone name such a landing in Afghanistan? In Chechnya? In other places where our paratroopers participate?

Not way of landing is important. Not even equipment and weapons. What is important is the realization that you are a paratrooper and the traditional "Nobody but us." Inside! Under the skin! Under the vest! Not superficial, but it is vorivshuyusya for life. And blue takes not just a form. This is also from there. From the inside of the soul.

I understand that Ukraine is trying to "find itself" in this world. Ukraine is trying by all means to prove to others that it is not Russia. So far, the Ukrainians prove it only to themselves. It is clear that all these "new views" on history in general and the history of the Great Patriotic War in particular, also follow from this task.

They abandoned the great Victory over fascism. Today, "behind the ears" attract some kind of "facts" of the participation of the Ukrainian army, an army separate from the Red Army, in the defeat of the Nazis. The rejection of the blue berets is from the same series. Tomorrow, maybe the day after tomorrow, the company will begin explaining the continuity of burgundy color from blue. A bunch of "historians" and politicians will tell that the Airborne Forces, in fact, "always wanted to be" like the whole civilized world ", burgundy. And the" bloody communist regime "made the paratroopers wear blue vests and berets."

On the other hand, "burgundy color will also symbolize the color of blood spilled in battles for state sovereignty, territorial integrity and freedom of Ukraine." If we consider that the paratroopers of Ukraine and today are engaged in this in the Donbass, then ... Let these same freedom fighters be burgundy. In order not to disgrace these paratroopers. Fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers ...

"Out of respect for the victories of the Ukrainian paratroopers, in the current Russian-Ukrainian war, they are invited to use the beret as the only everyday and ceremonial headdress. From a soldier to an army general. Not a cap, but takes the color of blood shed in battles for state sovereignty, territorial integrity and freedom of Ukraine ".

But it’s especially cynical for Ukraine, where the war of religions and the spread of all sects has been going on for a long time, looks like this: "... the changes will also affect the troop marks of the paratroopers. Now the parachute canopy is depicted as a symbol of the airborne units all over the world, the wings of Archangel Michael and the sword of fire with which he burns the filth with holy fire. "

I deeply respect the Ukrainian airborne veterans. Guys, you were and still are our brothers. We all remember and do not forget. Even though many of you and we want to deprive us of this memory. We do not forget your courage in Afghanistan. We do not forget your courage when landing in difficult conditions. And we will always consider you brothers. Not "maroon", and you! But you do not forget!

In its desire to change, Ukraine is becoming more and more annoying. Not Ukrainians, but Ukraine. "Breaking through the knee" memory ... Abandoning your own heroes ...

When Kiev began to break its own economy in favor of "gentlemen from behind the puddles", we understood. It is necessary to spoil Russia. When Kiev began to interfere with the manure history of the war and called heroes traitors, fascists, executioners, we also understood. We need at least some kind of "foundation" to bring the collapse of the country. When Kiev "started a war with Russia", we also understood. The destruction of the economy and the deterioration of the people’s life must be justified by something.

But when they began to abandon the living citizens of the country, we no longer understand. Yes, today the Soviet paratroopers for 50. But they are alive! They can still do something. And you are their soul, "inside" in the dirt ... Then where?
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  1. intuzazist
    intuzazist 31 October 2017 05: 45
    12
    Three times ha ha! Where are they these 50-year-old Soviet paratroopers ?! Near are happy on the barrels clown .................
    1. domokl
      31 October 2017 06: 20
      13
      But I wonder, did you participate in 91 or 93-m somewhere? Or has this cup passed you through childhood? It's one thing to sit in front of a computer and talk about great things, another thing is to face a choice ... And choose ...
      1. purple
        purple 31 October 2017 07: 24
        +2
        Well, Ukrainians and chose hatred of everything Russian and Russian ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 31 October 2017 11: 42
          +7
          Quote: purple
          Well, Ukrainians and chose hatred of everything Russian and Russian ...

          Yes, this is how to say ... Initially, the "Uncle Vasya" looked like this ...


          And it is in this form that our Airborne Forces participated in Czechoslovak events ...
      2. the most important
        the most important 31 October 2017 12: 31
        0
        Quote: domokl
        It’s one thing to sit in front of a computer and talk about the great, another thing is to face a choice ... And choose ...

        Let's see how on August 2 in Ukraine the blue berets will drive the burgundy .... It is a pity the Russian people, whom they so mock at ..
        1. Mairos
          Mairos 31 October 2017 16: 33
          +2
          Yes, nobody will drive anyone there. More precisely, only Natsik is chasing everyone there now, because they were allowed to. Everyone else is quieter than water and lower than grass - because they really crush everyone who is dissatisfied.
      3. Mairos
        Mairos 31 October 2017 16: 30
        +3
        Honestly, I was in '91, having already passed through a military school and served as an officer of the Soviet Army, only after a year or two realized that the CIS was not reincarnation of the USSR, but complete garbage. Well, nobody taught us then that SUCH and SO ridiculous can happen. ((((Sorry ...
      4. Palch
        Palch 31 October 2017 21: 11
        0
        domokl - You probably in the 91st or 93rd participated on the wrong side and chose not at all if the country came to such an end .....
        1. domokl
          1 November 2017 04: 02
          +3
          Quote: Palch
          You are probably on the wrong side of 91 or 93

          And I do not hide. In 91, he commanded a squad of officers who defended the white house. In 93-m did not go anywhere .. And the side? It is easy to talk today about who was right and who was wrong. The only thing I understood then was the state of the officers after the February revolution ...
      5. Alexander Prikhodko
        Alexander Prikhodko 3 November 2017 17: 37
        +1
        and what have you chosen - beggarly salaries and beggarly pensions for your people and moneybags who are now laughing at us -
    2. ARES623
      ARES623 6 March 2018 20: 27
      0
      Quote: intuzazist
      Three times ha ha! Where are they these 50-year-old Soviet paratroopers ?! Near are happy on the barrels clown .................

      You ask where are they?
      "From September 16 to October 1, 2017, the Kiev International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) conducted an all-Ukrainian public opinion poll on the SUPPORT OF RECOGNITION OF OUN-UPA BY PARTICIPANTS OF THE FIGHT FOR STATE INDEPENDENCE OF UKRAINE
      Since 2015, members of the OUN-UPA have official status as fighters for the independence of Ukraine in the twentieth century. This recognition is supported and rather supported by 41% of adult respondents in Ukraine, against or rather against such recognition - 27%, 26% of respondents did not decide on the answer to this question and 6% refused to answer it at all ..
      41% Karl! 41% !!! And the poll is FRESH! It was held, I will pay attention again, from September 16 to October 1, 2017. The category of men 40-49 years old - 57%, 50-59 years old - 48% .... "
      So, at least half of those who “I (the author of the article) deeply respect the Ukrainian veterans of the Airborne Forces. Guys, you were and remain our brothers. We all remember and do not forget. Even though there are so many of you and we want to deprive us of this memory. We do not forget your courage in Afghanistan. We do not forget your courage when landing in difficult conditions. And we will always consider you to be brothers, "we agree with Bandera and changed the blue beret to the pan. We must somehow be more careful with brotherly love. And then again, "a knife in the back," snot and drooling for unrequited love.
  2. Oleg Andreev
    Oleg Andreev 31 October 2017 06: 35
    +3
    Oh, and love to parrot and lick the owners!
    1. Alexander Prikhodko
      Alexander Prikhodko 3 November 2017 17: 39
      0
      especially if someone comes to Bendera from America or Germany
  3. brom
    brom 31 October 2017 06: 39
    +8
    Raspberry takes its appearance from the Soviet paratroopers due to the artist A. B. Zhuk. On June 30, 1967, the commander of the Airborne Forces Colonel-General Vasily Filippovich Margelov approved his drawings of a new uniform for paratroopers, including two berets. For everyday uniforms, a beret of protective color with a red star was supposed to be worn. However, this beret remained on paper. In the picture of a paratrooper in a raspberry beret, Margelov set the resolution: "Leave for parades in Moscow." On the right side of the beret was a blue flag with the emblem of the airborne forces, and in front - a star in a wreath of ears. The officers on a beret wore a cockade with an emblem of the sample of 1955 and a flying emblem (star with wings). Raspberry berets began to be supplied to the troops in August-September 1967. At the military parade on November 7, 1967, for the first time, parachute-landing units in a new uniform and berets passed through Red Square. Somewhat later, raspberry berets were replaced by blue ones.

    1. 32363
      32363 31 October 2017 06: 56
      0
      Quote: brom
      Somewhat later, raspberry berets were replaced by blue ones.

      right now, by the way, I met a rarity at a flea market, turned it around in my hands and didn’t buy it. fool
  4. Egor-dis
    Egor-dis 31 October 2017 07: 14
    +4
    "the burgundy color will also symbolize the color of blood shed in the battles for state sovereignty, territorial integrity and freedom of Ukraine"
    Here is the proof that the “true Ukrainians” are not just a different nationality / race, but a different biological species, possibly imported from another planet. They even have blood, not red, like all warm-blooded, but burgundy.
    1. domokl
      31 October 2017 07: 28
      +3
      laughing Stop looking when asked. Red blood only at the Guards warm-blooded ... For those who live in the country with your flag on the avatar. In the APU said burgundy, then burgundy. And do not break everything you need ...
  5. Strashila
    Strashila 31 October 2017 07: 38
    +1
    The main thing ... a'lya west ... if on the paddock with a donkey is written "lion", do not believe your gases.
  6. ares1988
    ares1988 31 October 2017 07: 41
    +7
    Does it matter what color it takes? Ukraine has chosen a path to the world where paratroopers wear burgundy berets. Well, OK, let them wear it if they like this style more. The color of the beret, I think, does not affect the level of combat training.
  7. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 31 October 2017 07: 57
    +2
    Interestingly, and what color colleagues of the border guards will have caps with berets? No one knows? hi
    1. Egor-dis
      Egor-dis 31 October 2017 08: 43
      +2
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      Interestingly, and what color colleagues of the border guards will have caps with berets?

      I don’t know what color the border guards will have caps, and the Ukrainian marines were prescribed turquoise (green-blue) berets.
  8. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 31 October 2017 08: 10
    12
    The color change is quite natural, because Ukraine is drifting toward the west not only economically, but also in the military sphere, that is, towards the NATO bloc. And there it is accepted that color, not blue. Nothing will happen to the combat ability of Ukrainian high-mobile phones, and even on the contrary, they will not get confused at joint exercises and will easily find their colleagues from the NATO armies.
    And about the legend and the insult of thousands of former Soviet men who served in the Soviet Airborne Forces, it’s a little awkward to read, because a couple of years ago we simply put more men before the fact. Here it is in the photo. Also, you know, a symbol, and even what! Here you are indestructible and legendary. Gone into the legend. Yes.
    Therefore, this is their personal matter of what color it takes to wear. It has no other choice, the war in Novorossia is for them coffins and the death of military comrades. With all the psychological stereotypes arising from this, in which Russia is the enemy. It’s sad to write about it, but and there is. Every day of this strange war makes the furrow between our peoples only deeper, and sympathy for the west only grows stronger.
    1. Bat
      Bat 31 October 2017 08: 31
      0
      Muddy Thunderbolt speaks out dimly.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 31 October 2017 08: 32
        0
        And what’s wrong? I heard insults, but is there essentially a criticism?
        1. Vadim Kurbatov
          Vadim Kurbatov 31 October 2017 10: 35
          0
          And if the enemy uses such caps to disagree with the enemy?
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 31 October 2017 10: 38
            0
            and if the enemy, then they will not be in berets, but in caps and helmets.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 31 October 2017 11: 42
      +3
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Color replacement is quite natural, because Ukraine is drifting towards the west, not only economically, but also in the military sphere

      Cargo cult, heh heh ... "We put on our" highly mobile "imposed by the Anglo-Saxons after the Second World Beret, and everything will be fine. They will stop drinking and turn into excellent students of military and political" 8)))
      But rather it’s good. It is unpleasant to see airborne symbols on the technique involved in the punitive operation.

      On the other hand, the burgundy takes of the Anglo-Saxons initially acted as a means of fighting history. In fact, only a third, they tried to impersonate some "ancestors"
    3. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 5 November 2017 00: 55
      0
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      They have no other choice, the war in Novorossia is for them the coffins and the death of comrades. With all the psychological stereotypes arising from this, in which Russia is the enemy. It’s sad to write about it, but it really is. Every day of this strange war makes a furrow between our peoples only deeper, and sympathies for the west only grow stronger.

      In the Civil War, there was no furrow between us - an abyss! So what? As soon as the Bolsheviks took power in Ukraine, they immediately fell under the new master! Such is the national mentality!
  9. erased
    erased 31 October 2017 08: 14
    11
    Finally, not one landing force of the troops (collective name) in the world except the Russian Federation has the right to three symbols: a striped blue and white vest, blue beret and badge. For the Russian Federation and its troops are legally the legal successors of the USSR Armed Forces, in particular the USSR Airborne Forces. For almost three decades no one remembered this. And it was quite possible to force the neighbors to change parts of the form. The fact that Bandera is changing symbols is good. Such shit can't use the legendary airborne symbols. Now, other neighbors should be encouraged to make the same decision. Maybe just leave the army of White Russia.
    1. urman
      urman 31 October 2017 08: 28
      +4
      Quote: erased
      Bandera is changing symbols - that's good.

      Here I am about the same thing, I do not understand the author’s sadness about the change of berets by banderlogs. what
      Do not stick on FIGs, they have other heroes warriors from ss Galicia.
      Well, veterans of the Airborne Forces, if not maydanutye, will not abandon their berets.
    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 5 November 2017 00: 57
      0
      Quote: erased
      Maybe just leave the army of White Russia.

      And what did Kazakhstan not please you?
      1. erased
        erased 5 November 2017 09: 14
        0
        Open Russophobia and clearly hostile actions of the authorities, especially their president. Simply put, he answers the outstretched hand of friendship with a spit at her.
  10. Bat
    Bat 31 October 2017 08: 19
    +3
    Lost white peas add on beret. In fly agarics it’s good to hide.
  11. baudolino
    baudolino 31 October 2017 09: 18
    +3
    In my opinion, after only three years of being created on a control unit, such nonsense is not worth paying attention to. Compared to general lawlessness, this is nonsense.
  12. Monarchist
    Monarchist 31 October 2017 09: 26
    +1
    "during the current Russian-Ukrainian war," I did not miss anything: have they already declared war? And then why the hell is their embassy in Moscow?
    Something I have a hunch that in the case of a real war, all these barbells immediately fade over the hill or present a certificate that they are crazy (they are) or they performed Yanek’s special task
  13. creak
    creak 31 October 2017 09: 56
    +3
    Quote: ares1988
    Does it matter what color it takes? Ukraine has chosen a path to the world where paratroopers wear burgundy berets


    Interestingly, what does the maroon (maroon) mean from the special forces of the military personnel of the former explosives, and now the National Guard of the Russian Federation? Is it that we have a symbol of courage and resilience, and in Ukraine a drift towards the West and decline?. Interesting logic .. If you remember how many times the shape or its elements changed with each new minister in the USSR and in the Russian Federation only in my lifetime - fingers it’s not enough on hand, everyone goes crazy in his own way - well, why make an elephant out of a fly ...
    Or at VO there is nothing more to discuss except Ukraine and the Armed Forces of Ukraine - so there is TV for this - there are these discussions and exposures above the roof ....
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 31 October 2017 11: 15
      +2
      Quote: ranger
      Interestingly, what does the maroon (maroon) mean from the special forces of the military personnel of the former explosives, and now the National Guard of the Russian Federation?

      Krapovy and burgundy are different colors 8)))) I think they just decided not to call it “raspberry”, “not cool”
      However, the color of the berets corresponds to the color of the then epaulettes and buttonholes of the Internal Troops. And that, in turn, is a direct reference to the color of the buttonholes of the NKVD troops

      Quote: ranger
      Is it that we have a symbol of courage and resilience, and in Ukraine a drift towards the West and decline?

      In fact, yes. When people in power who spit in their own history are in power, this is a clear indicator of decline.
  14. Stepan Kudinov
    Stepan Kudinov 31 October 2017 10: 06
    +1
    Correctly abolished airborne - fly, except on a broomstick - nothing.
  15. Graz
    Graz 31 October 2017 11: 17
    0
    another 10 years and the last helicopters will land in Ukraine and there will be no airborne troops left
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    1. domokl
      31 October 2017 13: 21
      0
      What did you want to know about the Soviet arms? Creating a landed car is even more difficult than just a car. And in the war, the paratroopers are fighting the same as the infantry. Infantry weapons are more convenient and powerful. Precisely because it is not necessary to shorten it, make collapsible, strengthen the suspension on the machines and so on.
      So, feel free to read the weapons of the Soviet Army in the 80-ies and you will clearly understand the equipment of airborne troops
      1. Eight
        Eight 31 October 2017 14: 30
        +2
        Thanks for the advice, of course, but I wonder what side it takes to hit the Armament section.
  17. kig
    kig 31 October 2017 11: 45
    +4
    How many bukof and wise thoughts can be drawn from a simple fact.
    1. domokl
      31 October 2017 13: 23
      +1
      Exactly. When the brain is designed for reflection. And when it is a calculator, read the teletype. There all the news in one phrase ...
  18. Berg berg
    Berg berg 31 October 2017 12: 42
    0
    The hohlodesant failed with the Airborne Forces, now has declared war on the speckled berets of the Russian Interior Ministry! They just didn’t understand that it was necessary to earn a maroon beret and oh how hard it was!
  19. 0501897008
    0501897008 31 October 2017 12: 51
    0
    The Turkish paratroopers also have blue berets and, in my opinion, the Albanians.
    1. domokl
      31 October 2017 13: 24
      0
      Turks and several other countries use airborne units as special operations forces ...
  20. Igor Akimov
    Igor Akimov 31 October 2017 13: 20
    +2
    And about the symbol of Ukrainian nationalism - pork ears forgot!
  21. SpaceCom
    SpaceCom 31 October 2017 13: 21
    +2
    I personally do not care about the color of the uniform of a foreign army!
    Here's another ... "... the fire sword with which he burns corrupted with sacred fire" - judging by the symbolism, these are not troops anymore, but rather punishers No.
  22. 236 BTR
    236 BTR 31 October 2017 15: 12
    0
    Yeah, it’s not in vain that he says there’s no mind, a cripple
  23. Sailor
    Sailor 31 October 2017 15: 31
    0
    That's what, look at what they turned the sailors into, I'd rather quit, but I wouldn’t put on such a uniform. They are going to hide in the waves or something.
  24. polpot
    polpot 31 October 2017 19: 16
    0
    Why and why not a pan of yellow blocking tint, it’s more beautiful and convenient, but according to normal, they decided once again to pose as Europe they have airborne bears of the same color since the 1940s, and even though they don’t wear anything but a buffoon hat, Ukrainian warriors don’t
  25. Dzungar
    Dzungar 31 October 2017 20: 06
    +2
    What is the author worried about for their veterans ...? Well, those blue berets will be dressed, and that's it. Who wore what will be in it and will remain .... Found a problem
  26. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 31 October 2017 20: 31
    +1
    I do not know what to say. You can argue to hoarseness, but you can also think. Tradition? Let be. But why, then our soldiers do not go in "budenovki"? After all, great-grandfathers smashed Kolchak and Denikin in them! Why did the sailors get a cap and shorts? Great-great-grandfathers in the southern latitudes of Tsushima fought in the "flares"!
    To consider yourself a trendsetter is a thankless task. So the "guards ribbon" is already suffering in Ukraine, Belarus and somewhere else .... And all because they proved too zealously - only this symbol of true winners! Want to change color on berets? Their business ...
  27. Evgenii Xolod
    Evgenii Xolod 31 October 2017 21: 05
    +1
    They refused and to hell with them. I think someone in the closet is dressed and will celebrate, and the rest is empty. They want to be gay (BP), well, no one bothers, and there are fewer spots on the "history".
  28. Wolka
    Wolka 1 November 2017 17: 40
    0
    Khokhlov already immediately had brown berets and a skull instead of a cockade coat of arms, by analogy with aethen camphor ...
  29. Old26
    Old26 2 November 2017 01: 30
    0
    Quote: Russian quilted jacket
    Interestingly, and what color colleagues of the border guards will have caps with berets? No one knows? hi

    From what I saw - border troops are not observed
    And so, look
  30. Alex rad
    Alex rad 3 November 2017 20: 19
    0
    In Ukraine, in addition to berets, problems above the roof, berets are so lick .... like we are of the same blood with the West
  31. oleg_3
    oleg_3 4 November 2017 03: 45
    0
    The riddle. Neither hr ... nor carrot. and the red head. Who is it? That's right - airmobile APU
  32. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 5 November 2017 09: 53
    0
    Quote: erased
    Open Russophobia and clearly hostile actions of the authorities, especially their president. Simply put, he answers the outstretched hand of friendship with a spit at her.

    Examples?
  33. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 7 November 2017 22: 55
    0
    the author, but what does the Airborne Forces take in the beginning was burgundy and only somewhere in a year or two was it replaced with blue, don’t you know?
  34. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 2 January 2018 18: 30
    0
    ".... Let these same freedom fighters be burgundy. So as not to disgrace the real paratroopers. Fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers ..." What can I add?
  35. glum
    glum 29 January 2018 16: 10
    +2
    It’s important that you are a paratrooper and the traditional “Nobody but us” - the author answered himself that it’s not a matter of taking, or is it at least something to stab the Ukrainian army ???? As for me, what form the fighters of the country wear is the internal affair of the country itself.
  36. iouris
    iouris April 27 2018 12: 49
    0
    Bandera Airborne? Uncle Vasya rolled over in his grave.
  37. Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 26 July 2018 16: 14
    0
    Emotional nonsense!