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Vladimir Putin: I hope the anniversary of the revolution will draw a line under the split in society

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At a meeting of the Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights, Russian President Vladimir Putin commented on the upcoming anniversary of the October Revolution. According to the head of state, he hopes that the 100 anniversary of the revolution will be perceived by the Russians as a symbol of overcoming the split in society. From the presidential statement:
I hope that this date will be perceived by our society as summing up the dramatic events that have divided the country and the people, will become a symbol of overcoming this split, a symbol of mutual forgiveness and acceptance of the national stories as it is: with its great victories and tragic pages.



With the thesis that the people of Russia are split over the events of 100 years ago, it is difficult to disagree. Friction of this kind between different members of the public has been observed for more than a dozen years. At the same time, some people call the October revolution of 1917 “a symbol of change and freedom,” others believe that the revolution is “one of the main crimes against Russia and its people in the XX century”. With such theses, one of which is almost the complete opposite of the other, it is difficult in society to come to a consensus.

During the Council meeting, persons who called themselves human rights activists were invited at the state level to think about a set of measures to perpetuate the memory of victims of political repression.

From other events on the Council:

At the very beginning of the meeting, Vladimir Putin offered the people to pay tribute to the memory of Elizabeth Glinka (Dr. Lisa) and Daniil Dondrey.
Vladimir Putin:
Since our last meeting, we have not had the opportunity together to pay tribute to the memory of these bright, wonderful people who have done a lot for the country and for society and, of course, for our Council - this is certainly a very big loss.


Vladimir Putin: I hope the anniversary of the revolution will draw a line under the split in society


At that moment, the president was holding photographs of Dr. Liza.

During the meeting of the Council, the President noted that the number of NPOs “foreign agents” in the country has recently decreased from 165 to 89, which is less than 0,4% of the total number of non-governmental (non-profit) organizations registered in Russia.
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  1. Shura Perm
    Shura Perm 30 October 2017 16: 49
    20
    if there is no order on the ground, then everything is possible ... otherwise the gentlemen of the middle hand are already very guzzled ... and it’s very joyful when the colonels find millions of greens and billions of rubles, they dig their own grave, a Russian man suffers for a long time, yes it hurts very painfully ...
    1. Zibelew
      Zibelew 30 October 2017 16: 50
      43
      In fact, they returned to where they started. Now we compare what capitalism is and what socialism is. And the October Revolution is a natural result of the moral decay of those who ruled the Russian Empire.
      1. Logall
        Logall 30 October 2017 16: 51
        50
        The split is only gaining momentum! God alone knows how we will celebrate the next anniversary ... And will the date change?
        1. 210ox
          210ox 30 October 2017 16: 56
          24
          Here is a recent example, Sobchak and the ldprovtsy again raised the question of the Mausoleum. In the country, are there urgent problems that have ended?
          Quote: Logall
          The split is only gaining momentum! God alone knows how we will celebrate the next anniversary ... And will the date change?
          1. Logall
            Logall 30 October 2017 17: 00
            22
            Quote: 210ox
            example-Sobchak

            no words, just letters ...
            1. cniza
              cniza 30 October 2017 17: 03
              11
              The people are kidding, and she is doing business and she is very interested in these elections.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 30 October 2017 17: 55
                33
                Vladimir Putin: I hope the anniversary of the revolution will draw a line under the split in society

                And what is our power going to celebrate the anniversary ?? Mr. Peskov, in my opinion, unequivocally spoke out on this occasion that the Kremlin is absolutely uninteresting! Still would! After all, the interests of the oligarchs are diametrically opposed to the ideas of the revolution.
                1. Mavrikiy
                  Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 19: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Vladimir Putin: I hope the anniversary of the revolution will draw a line under the split in society

                  And what is our power going to celebrate the anniversary ?? Mr. Peskov, in my opinion, unequivocally spoke out on this occasion that the Kremlin is absolutely uninteresting! Still would! After all, the interests of the oligarchs are diametrically opposed to the ideas of the revolution.

                  As far as flashed here, the State Duma is concerned about the skating rink on Red Square. Yes Yes. I agree, it is important to cut the loot without leaving your home. And only the throne will climb the revolution: the red-and-white, "you are for the Bolsheviks or the Communists", the gray-brown monarchy, "anarchy is the mother of order!" (this is closer to us, but they don’t understand) .....
                  Then you will not shut up the bulldozer. Who needs this crap?
                2. mervino2007
                  mervino2007 30 October 2017 19: 54
                  12
                  This is surprising. There was no discussion in society about the reasons, and most importantly, the results of October. The separate efforts of individual philosophers do not count. On the contrary, the disagreement with the methods of governance in the USSR, which began to subside in our society, was a misfortune with unfair privatization after the collapse of the USSR. And this is worse - it was in front of the living. And it was sheer injustice and deceit. A time bomb laid in 1991-1992, by the "reformers" themselves can explode. Leaving everything without investigation, without evaluation, without conclusions is dangerous ...
                  1. Antianglosax
                    Antianglosax 31 October 2017 15: 51
                    +1
                    Quote: mervino2007
                    A time bomb laid in 1991-1992, by the "reformers" themselves can explode. Leaving everything without investigation, without evaluation, without conclusions is dangerous ...

                    Do not go to the fortuneteller. To the delight of the Kremlin partners from the west. Some bourgeois were kicked out in 1917, so after 70 years others climbed out, only ten times worse in quality. Class struggle cannot be avoided, anyway.
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          2. tomket
            tomket 30 October 2017 23: 58
            +4
            Quote: 210ox
            Here is a recent example, Sobchak and the ldprovtsy again raised the question of the Mausoleum. In the country, are there urgent problems that have ended?

            Well, Putin unveiled a monument to the victims of POLITICAL repression. Split overcome speak? Concentus? Well ..... you can’t sit on two chairs. Although what am I talking about. We must understand and forgive this bourgeois scum, which overthrew the tsar and ruined the empire. And they, on the other hand, everything is in order ....
            1. Ural resident
              Ural resident 31 October 2017 09: 44
              +1
              And what - is it a crime to open a monument to the victims of political repression?
              Are these not people? My grandfather was repressed for me because he worked as a regent in the church before the revolution. His son, my father, as a child, accidentally played "God Save the Tsar" - immediately a denunciation, they shot him three days after the arrest. Subsequently, he was rehabilitated - the KGB officer came - apologized for what he had not done, all the documents of the investigation were issued. We have invested in this monument the hard earned money of the whole family. That's when you say that you need to write off these people - you are sowing a split. For me, both the White Guard and the bourgeoisie and the Reds are all Russian civilization and we must draw conclusions from what happened, so that this would not happen again. Any revolution, alas, takes the lives of ordinary people, and then again the same world does not change anything.
              1. tomket
                tomket 31 October 2017 11: 03
                0
                Quote: Resident of the Urals
                And what - is it a crime to open a monument to the victims of political repression?

                No, but then there is no need to talk about overcoming the split. Say one thing and do another? Let the monument to the victims of the White Terror be unveiled, to the victims of Khodynka to the Baku commissars ... But how many monuments can be opened?
              2. tomket
                tomket 31 October 2017 11: 10
                +2
                Quote: Resident of the Urals
                For me, both the White Guard and the bourgeoisie and the Reds are all Russian civilization and we must draw conclusions from what happened, so that this would not happen again. Any revolution, alas, takes the lives of ordinary people, and then again the same world does not change anything.

                So it is necessary to open a monument to the victims of the split, civil. What, there were no victims of the whites, the king and the bourgeois? We only had the Reds shot everyone? Or maybe for example Kolchak was a little marked in this field? If we overcome the split, then other monuments need to be opened. And these are the monuments of the victory of the counter-revolution.
        2. Mar.Tirah
          Mar.Tirah 30 October 2017 17: 29
          +3
          With Sobchak, and Poklonskaya let me down, how one pulls into the monastery, the other into shit democracy. And both have Kremlin curators.
        3. Lavrenti Pavlovich
          Lavrenti Pavlovich 30 October 2017 19: 20
          15
          Quote: Logall
          The split is only gaining momentum! God alone knows how we will celebrate the next anniversary ... And will the date change?

          The split is only growing, officials and new bourgeoisie are getting richer and boundless, and ordinary people are getting poorer. Actually, for this reason in 1917 there was a revolution, at least one of the main reasons. Compare the salary of Miller (more than 1 million rubles a day) and the pension of my grandmother, who worked all her life on the collective farm.
          1. tomket
            tomket 31 October 2017 00: 05
            +7
            Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
            The split is only growing

            Actually, what caused the split in society in the 1917 year? The fact that a large stratum of the population, the nobles, fell out of the social contract. By which they had to shed blood and give their lives for the fatherland. And by the end of Catherine’s reign, they became outright parasites. What do we see now? Replacing this same layer of parasites with a layer of the same parasites of officials who collect the same quitrent and corvee in the form of various legalized payments. And here we are offered to try on with these parasites?
        4. the most important
          the most important 30 October 2017 19: 34
          18
          Quote: Logall
          The split is only gaining momentum! God alone knows how we will celebrate the next anniversary ... And will the date change?

          A third of the population in their pockets cannot even find a trifle, and fat faces at the helm of state-owned companies receive millions a day! Well, who brings the revolution ??? If you keep silent about hemorrhoids, he will not disappear from this, and with the revolutionary situation. A bunch of freaks are stuffing their pockets again, and Russia will suffer as always ...
        5. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 30 October 2017 23: 09
          11
          Quote: Logall
          The split is only gaining momentum! God alone knows how we will celebrate the next anniversary ... And will the date change?


          and now didn’t they change the date ?? belay holiday November 4th ... damn sclerosis! every year you have to strain your memory - why are we walking ?? because the old fashioned way - I’ll mark the 7th ... hi
          1. Logall
            Logall 30 October 2017 23: 42
            +8
            I mean, the date of the revolution itself! For 2020, for example ...
            I really would not want to, really, but ...
            A new date is a completely different holiday! On this day in 1612, Kozma Minin and Dmitry Pozharsky raised a militia against the Swedish-Polish invaders ...
            Shame on you, comrade!
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 31 October 2017 10: 57
              0
              recourse
              - guilty ...
              - I do not ask your last name!
              .
              yes I understand your subtext repeat Yes, and I know about Minin and Pozharsky ... just a frank replacement of one holiday with another is somehow not human, again, glossing over the history of individual spots ...
              To all opponents on November 7th I usually say - was there a revolution - yes, in October? - yes, great? - Well ... - But in the light of the influence on the whole subsequent history, not only here, but all over the world? - Yes ... So why then is it not the Great October Revolution ?? hi
        6. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 31 October 2017 02: 00
          +1
          Quote: Logall
          The split is only gaining momentum! God alone knows how we will celebrate the next anniversary ... And will the date change?

          Vladimir Putin: I hope the anniversary of the revolution will draw a line under the split in society

          Yes, it seems everywhere in different ways. Here is the news in honor of the centenary of the Great October Socialist Revolution:
          Great news. In Tavda, a monument to Lenin was thrown into the trash. Where he belongs
          A deputy of the Tavda City Duma said that this was a "spit in the soul" of a Soviet citizen, and he did not know how this could happen Naturally, everyone immediately reconciled.
          In Chelyabinsk, a monument to Lenin was demolished at ChKPZ.
          The situation with the demolition of the monument to Lenin was commented on by the State Duma deputy from the Just Russia party Valery Gartung. “There were no political reasons for the demolition of the monument. (who would doubt) Just when examining the object, it turned out that its condition poses a threat to the factory workers (and thousands of factory workers were thrown out into the street). It is already impossible to restore the monument (naturally, the plant has no money for a new one), so the plant management decided to dismantle it. In my opinion, this is a completely logical and correct decision on their part (in the opinion of the liberal), because security is always a priority for Chelyabinsk Pipe Plant, ”Valery Gartung said.
          But in Chelyabinsk say 10 monuments of Lenin, and not a single Kolchak. And also to Ungern, Trotsky, Petlyure (there are also fans, otherwise it’s not tolerant). It's a shame. Therefore, reconciliation is still far away, but we are moving.
          In Pervouralsk, Lenin's head was torn off, then returned, immediately reconciled.
        7. 24rus
          24rus 31 October 2017 05: 29
          +4
          Because in fact, society has again divided into people who prefer social justice - everything is for a person and enterprising lovers of money, any means for which capitalism is the most profitable. Well, how to reconcile them?
        8. Antianglosax
          Antianglosax 31 October 2017 15: 44
          +1
          Quote: Logall
          The split is only gaining momentum! God alone knows how we will celebrate the next anniversary ... And will the date change?

          And the government and the State Duma are the most zealous in the split! ! Whether on purpose, or on meager minds, but this is a medical fact!
      2. Vend
        Vend 30 October 2017 18: 20
        +4
        Quote: Zibelew
        In fact, they returned to where they started. Now we compare what capitalism is and what socialism is. And the October Revolution is a natural result of the moral decay of those who ruled the Russian Empire.

        Then the collapse of the USSR is the logical result of the moral decay of the Soviet Union. laughing
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 18: 58
        +3
        Quote: Zibelew
        In fact, they returned to where they started. Now we compare what capitalism is and what socialism is. And the October Revolution is a natural result of the moral decay of those who ruled the Russian Empire.

        You drink kefir at night (Panikovsky advised, and will live 100 years) and do not watch horror films, it may be time to learn the history of the motherland. A competent person would construct your phrase like this: "And the February Revolution is a natural result of the moral decay of those who ruled the Russian Empire." Do you catch the difference? Well then, sort out how the “Februaryists” differed from the “Octobrists”. And then we reach the Bolsheviks.
    2. Primoos
      Primoos 30 October 2017 17: 30
      +9
      The split on the red square in the mausoleum lies. Bury Ulyanov already, let him rest in a Bose.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 30 October 2017 17: 44
        22
        Quote: Primoos
        The split on the red square in the mausoleum lies. Bury Ulyanov already, let him rest in a Bose.

        What is it that bothers you? Doesn’t it give me peace? Something too often, recently, liberals and United Russia have begun to pedal this issue!
        1. Primoos
          Primoos 30 October 2017 18: 33
          +6
          Stasik, do not poke. Calves you pass without me. And yes! He bothers me! Already got idolaters!
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 30 October 2017 18: 43
            23
            This is exactly the case when necessary. The mausoleum with Lenin on Red Square is a symbol of the departed Great Country. For the first time in its history, Russia has become the number one state (before that, it had never been a superpower), the center of all progressive mankind. And now someone wants to erase all memory without a trace of it. Already all the red flags have been removed, and someone closes the Mausoleum with plywood during the parades ... now here are the ones like you who decided to encroach on the last.
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              1. igorj 51
                igorj 51 30 October 2017 20: 20
                12
                With or without honors, this is for you to decide, for he is your Fuhrer.

                Fuhrer it may be with you. And we have the leader of the world proletariat.
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            2. Old military officer
              Old military officer 30 October 2017 19: 36
              +8
              Dear Stas! Who are you trying to explain something to? He is one of those who are absolutely sure and have no doubts. For God's sake, this is his infallible opinion and ... with him. And you won’t erase our memory, not round.
            3. Dart2027
              Dart2027 30 October 2017 20: 23
              +3
              Quote: Stas157
              Russia, for the first time in its history, has become state number one (before that, it had never been a superpower)

              Actually it was.
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              2. albert
                albert 30 October 2017 21: 22
                +3
                Quote: Dart2027
                Actually it was.

                More details please from this place. wassat
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 30 October 2017 21: 59
                  +1
                  After the victory in the Northern War, when Russia became an empire, that is, a superpower.
          2. DMB_95
            DMB_95 30 October 2017 18: 49
            18
            Quote: Primoos
            The split on the red square in the mausoleum lies. Bury Ulyanov already, let him rest in a Bose.

            Quote: Primoos
            And yes! He bothers me! Already got idolaters!

            But it doesn’t bother me. I am outraged by the reckoning of Nicholas the Bloody as a saint. "We got it already" .... Do not offer to change their places so that everyone is happy?
            1. Primoos
              Primoos 30 October 2017 19: 02
              +2
              You forgot, there was another character there, Kerensky. Now let's put them in a row in area and lay out. Nikolashka-Kerensky-Ulyanov. Relay race, so to speak.
              1. DMB_95
                DMB_95 30 October 2017 19: 21
                +9
                Quote: Primoos
                You forgot, there was another character there, Kerensky ..

                This character is not worthy not only of Red Square, but also of a simple cemetery, where normal people are. His place is behind the fence.
                1. Logall
                  Logall 30 October 2017 20: 18
                  +8
                  Brothers, Why did you forget about Count Kropotkin? Father of the Revolution, mat rewind ...
                2. Primoos
                  Primoos 30 October 2017 20: 30
                  +2
                  Does Nikolashka mean worth? And Kropotkin of the counts. Father! And Ulyanov! Granddad! The family is still. Mat rewind ....!
                  1. Logall
                    Logall 30 October 2017 20: 54
                    +9
                    If anyone knows history, then he understands that Lenin had nothing to do with the Revolution! Anarchists made a revolution! The Bolsheviks realized that they had a bloody bathhouse ... They dragged the country into a civil war ...
                    But both of them were funded from abroad! Kropotkin, he was in general for permanent residence ...
                    And thank God that Stalin eventually got power, not Trotsky ...
                    1. Primoos
                      Primoos 30 October 2017 21: 06
                      +5
                      That's about the great Stalin only good. Great was a man.
                3. Antianglosax
                  Antianglosax 31 October 2017 16: 01
                  +2
                  Quote: DMB_95
                  Quote: Primoos
                  You forgot, there was another character there, Kerensky ..

                  This character is not worthy not only of Red Square, but also of a simple cemetery, where normal people are. His place is behind the fence.

                  Actually, like ebna. Anyway, the hunchbacked one in Russia will not be buried - let him die in oblivion, like a dog.
              2. Karabin
                Karabin 30 October 2017 20: 19
                +6
                Quote: Primoos
                Nikolashka-Kerensky-Ulyanov. Relay race, so to speak.

                Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin. relay race, so to speak.
            2. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 30 October 2017 22: 43
              +4
              I am outraged by the reckoning of Nicholas the Bloody as a saint. "We got it already" ....

              : this, too, does not climb into any gates .... moreover, the revolution of the 17th is his work, or rather the result of all his activities ... hi
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          4. tomket
            tomket 31 October 2017 00: 07
            +1
            Quote: Primoos
            And yes! He bothers me!

            At night comes and the discus leads you, about the class struggle, about the inevitability of revolution, does “Capital” read out chapters?))))))
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 30 October 2017 17: 44
        +3
        Quote: Primoos
        The split on the red square in the mausoleum lies. Bury Ulyanov already, let him rest in a Bose.

        The monarchists will like this, but what about the supporters of the Communist Party? Can Romanov’s remains be transferred there?
      3. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich 30 October 2017 20: 05
        15
        Lenin did not overthrow the tsar; he dispersed the liberals who overthrew the tsar. Very big difference.
    3. alekc73
      alekc73 30 October 2017 17: 35
      32
      What kind of reconciliation. There are two Russia. One part is "losing your mind that there is nothing more to want", the vast majority of the second Russia make ends meet. Survive. In this stratification of the world do not wait.
      1. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 30 October 2017 18: 48
        +6
        Quote: alekc73
        What a reconciliation.

        Well, like we don’t shoot at each other .. Yes, life is not sugar in the majority of the population of Russia.
        Putin took literate tactics, between the warring parties .. Enough of blood and revolution! Russia needs a break in the world ..
        Quote: alekc73
        One part "goes crazy that there is nothing more to want", the vast majority of the second Russia make ends meet. Survive. With this stratification of the world do not wait.

        I agree, of course, the bastards are fattening .. Especially their kids love ponty pounding and it makes me very angry.
        And I don’t want new shocks of the type of the 90s .. They should cope, but in a peaceful way, as I do not know yet! soldier
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 30 October 2017 20: 28
          12
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          Putin took tactical tactics, between the warring parties ..

          Here, only one side guarantees non-revision of the results of privatization, it provides and closes its eyes to offshore with state orders, and the other hangs noodles on its ears.
          Greetings Vitalik. With another new nickname to you. Well done! You are at the door, and you are at the window. laughing
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 30 October 2017 20: 39
            +3
            Quote: Karabin
            Greetings Vitalik. With another new nickname to you. Well done! You are at the door, and you are at the window. laughing

            good how's the classic
            “I dare to report, Mr. Feldkurat,” said
            Schweik, that's the hydra! Just like Bowen from Libeni.
            Eighteen times in one evening he was thrown out of the pub
            "Exner," and each time he returned - they say, "forgot
            ". He climbed through the windows, doors, through the kitchen, through the fence in
            tavern, through the cellar to the counter where beer is dispensed, and probably
            would go down the chimney if it had not been removed from the roof
            firefighters. He was so persistent that he could become a minister or
            deputy! Invested him properly!
        2. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 30 October 2017 22: 49
          +3
          Putin took literate tactics, between the warring parties .. Enough of blood and revolution! Russia needs a break in the world ..

          maybe for someone to take a break, and for someone to take a break ... no one wants shocks ... only children and the elderly feel sorry for it - some still can not, others can not plow, so that they feel normal ....
        3. tomket
          tomket 31 October 2017 00: 09
          +2
          Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
          And I don’t want new shocks like 90's

          Historical processes will not particularly ask you. Do you want or not want. Once the contradictions within society have reached a peak, then everything will be resolved.
    4. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 18: 52
      +1
      Quote: Shura Perm
      if there is no order on the ground, then everything is possible ... otherwise the gentlemen of the middle hand are already very guzzled ... and it’s very joyful when the colonels find millions of greens and billions of rubles, they dig their own grave, a Russian man suffers for a long time, yes it hurts very painfully ...

      Yes, he doesn’t hit and still tolerate. Another thing is ruined vertical power. In the Republic of Ingushetia, the king planted and then the "auditors" pulled to account. Now elective, therefore not accountable. Money is correct, a lot, so they will hammer any throat with them (from the Sov. Film).
    5. rpek32
      rpek32 31 October 2017 01: 00
      +3
      snickering not snickering but this situation is alarming


      https://echo.msk.ru/blog/milov/2083146-echo/
      1. insular
        insular 31 October 2017 01: 25
        +2
        Quote: rpek32
        this situation is alarming

        What is included in the Officers + Siloviki?
        Courts, prosecutors, rescuers, border guards + FSB, police, etc. etc., and what is included in Education and medicine?
        It seems to me that Education and Medicine has a significantly larger budget than any other article. Or maybe you will say that there is something superfluous in this scheme?

        And what do officials mean? Is it civil servants?
        1. rpek32
          rpek32 31 October 2017 01: 35
          0
          the article has answers to these questions
          the picture is just KDPV
          1. insular
            insular 31 October 2017 01: 50
            0
            Quote: rpek32
            the article has answers to these questions

            And if it’s easy to say hello, I can’t find such an answer.
            1. rpek32
              rpek32 31 October 2017 20: 15
              0
              Quote: insular
              But will it not be difficult

              will make up.
  2. svp67
    svp67 30 October 2017 16: 53
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    Vladimir Putin: I hope the anniversary of the revolution will draw a line under the split in society
    Yeah, schA ... It’s painful the split is wide and deep, so not only that, the current government is doing everything to expand and deepen it ...
  3. Doliva63
    Doliva63 30 October 2017 16: 56
    38
    Vladimir Putin: I hope the anniversary of the revolution draws a line under a split in society.
    My opinion: nationalization and prosecution of all those involved in the collapse will draw a line, everything else is irresponsible (who will ask him?) Demagogy.
    1. captain
      captain 30 October 2017 17: 13
      +3
      Excuse me, sir, did you apparently defend Soviet power with a gun? Or sympathized? If not, then you need to be the first to the wall, for demagoguery.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 30 October 2017 17: 50
        25
        Quote: captain
        Excuse me, sir, did you apparently defend Soviet power with a gun? Or sympathized? If not, then you need to be the first to the wall, for demagoguery.

        Defender of the oligarchs?))) Then you need to engage in the guard. You look will be presented with the happiness of the people to put on the wall!
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 30 October 2017 18: 40
          +4
          Quote: Stas157
          Defender of the oligarchs?)))
          (Slogan)
          Where did you see the oligarchs good
          Quote: Stas157
          You look will be presented with the happiness of the people to put on the wall!

          You know, many will not flinch, if people like you, fighters with the oligarchs, occupy the center of Moscow!
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 30 October 2017 18: 54
            10
            Quote: You Vlad
            You know, many will not flinch, if people like you, fighters with the oligarchs, occupy the center of Moscow!

            Why are you fueling? You can imagine in public how your hand would tremble when people like me will be killed! Why are you opposing each other today? Do you want mutual hatred? I, too, will not stay away, and I’ll try not to give offense myself. So in vain you want to imagine a sacrifice from me.
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 30 October 2017 18: 59
              +4
              Quote: Stas157
              Why are you fueling?

              You do not bring down a sore head to a healthy one No.
              Quote: Stas157
              You look will be presented with the happiness of the people to put on the wall!

              Go to Ukraine, the oligarchs have already won there and you will be happy! Here in Russia you don’t have to swing aha ..
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 30 October 2017 19: 06
                +6
                Quote: You Vlad
                Do not bring down a sore head for a healthy one

                Is this your comment?
                Quote: You Vlad
                many will not flinch, if people like you, fighters with the oligarchs, occupy the center of Moscow!

                So who is downloading? Who sends to Ukraine, as in due time Bandera (suitcase-station-Russia)? Who is poking that they will kill people like me? You are very aggressive. So run into the answer.
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 30 October 2017 19: 17
                  +3
                  Well you started it
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Why are you fueling?

                  With this wink
                  Quote: Stas157
                  You look will be presented with the happiness of the people to put on the wall!

                  Quote: Stas157
                  So who is downloading?

                  The question is rhetorical? smile
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Who sends to Ukraine, as in due time Bandera (suitcase-station-Russia)?

                  Yeah, like you are fighters with oligarchs for the interests of others yes
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Who is poking that they will kill people like me?

                  Where do you just read it? You're a pro good
                  Quote: Stas157
                  You are very aggressive. So run into the answer.

                  You know what I’ll tell you, anyone who is looking will always find it! But you are unlikely to understand this request
                2. zoolu350
                  zoolu350 31 October 2017 09: 02
                  +5
                  Quote: Stas157
                  So who is downloading? Who sends to Ukraine, as in due time Bandera (suitcase-station-Russia)? Who is poking that they will kill people like me? You are very aggressive. So run into the answer.

                  Yes, all this is empty. The hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation said: “Do not rock the Rotenberg’s yacht, splash the pool. Reconcile yourself to the fact that someone eats eggs with spoons every day without doing anything, and the other humps from morning to morning, is content with a crust of bread.” Already only on the VO site it is clear that reconciliation is good wishes. And as soon as the conditions develop, we will cut each other so that the situation in Ukraine seems to be a kindergarten.
                  1. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 31 October 2017 14: 12
                    +1
                    Quote: zoolu350
                    Yes, all this is empty.

                    For you, yes!
                    Quote: zoolu350
                    The hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation said: "Do not rock the Rotenberg yacht, splash the pool.

                    If it were not for this (hired manager) Russia, it would be one continuous Chechnya with millions of dead, we were one step away from a large-scale civil war and not here to open for you!
                    Quote: zoolu350
                    Reconcile yourself with the fact that someone every day eats caviar with spoons without doing anything for it, and the other, hunching from morning to morning, is content with a crust of bread. "

                    And you thought that all the same people come to this world? No, we are all different, stupid, smart, cunning, greedy, kind! Who eats bread with caviar, and who is the last! And you do not forbid to eat caviar, but for this you need to think and move and you will ...
  4. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 30 October 2017 17: 00
    27
    Unity with the oligarchy - an archival thing, comrades! They have a country, resources, loot, which they pump with terrible force into the USA and the West, but we have unity. Idyll. Although something tells me that soon all these "friends of the guarantor" will be pinched by a big brother and a hefty nap.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 30 October 2017 17: 38
      +5
      Honestly, I would rather !!!!!
      1. igorj 51
        igorj 51 30 October 2017 20: 25
        +3
        Honestly, I would rather !!!!!

        That's just for you personally this will not get any better. That's for sure.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 31 October 2017 00: 14
          +6
          so at least keep warm
  5. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 30 October 2017 17: 20
    22
    After 100 years, the slogans: “Peace for the huts, war for the palaces”, “Land for the peasants”, “Factories for the workers” are relevant again.
    1. raid14
      raid14 30 October 2017 17: 29
      +3
      For such slogans, it’s now possible under Article 282, Part 1, “to rattle”
      Actions aimed at inciting hatred or enmity, as well as at humiliating the dignity of a person or group of people, as well as belonging to a social group, specifically the "bourgeoisie", committed publicly or using the media or information and telecommunication networks, including network "Internet.
      1. Sergey-8848
        Sergey-8848 30 October 2017 17: 35
        15
        These slogans do not ... incite hatred or enmity, as well as humiliating the dignity of a person or group of people to any social group, specifically the "bourgeoisie" ... Tokmo is the pursuit of justice.
        For users with a striped flag, a respectful request is to read your own Constitution first, as well as the documents of the French Revolution. Only after that quote our Basic Law, and the legislative acts arising from it, including Administrative Code and Criminal Code.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 30 October 2017 17: 21
    10
    At the same time, some call the October 1917 revolution a “symbol of change and freedom,” while others believe that the revolution is “one of the main crimes against Russia and its people in the XNUMXth century”
    ... The launch of the first satellite and the flight into space of Yuri Gagarin is like, as a result of change and freedom, or as a result of crimes against Russia and its people in the twentieth century ..?
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2017 17: 24
      16
      Quote: parusnik
      ... The launch of the first satellite and the flight into space of Yuri Gagarin is like, as a result of change and freedom, or as a result of crimes against Russia and its people in the twentieth century ..?

      This is as a result of faith in one's own strength and ability to concentrate in order to achieve Victory, in spite of everyday inconveniences ... They could go for it - the generation of Winners ....
      1. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 30 October 2017 23: 00
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: parusnik
        ... The launch of the first satellite and the flight into space of Yuri Gagarin is like, as a result of change and freedom, or as a result of crimes against Russia and its people in the twentieth century ..?

        This is as a result of faith in one's own strength and ability to concentrate in order to achieve Victory, in spite of everyday inconveniences ... They could go for it - the generation of Winners ....


        and in the 90s we got so many noodles that they still burn ... unfortunately we are a generation of pros (p or p) who have visited the Great Country. One thing is comforting - after the revolution, we showed the whole world what we should strive for, and at the end of the Soviet era - which in no case should be done. A very capable student - China - made conclusions, unlike us, without giving up his story ...
  7. Bosch
    Bosch 30 October 2017 17: 26
    14
    The split in society does not depend on anniversaries and memorable dates. The split takes place on political or economic grounds.
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 30 October 2017 17: 45
      +1
      Well, hope is just a universal substitute for what you want for what you have ... request
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 17: 56
      0
      See my post below.
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 30 October 2017 17: 31
    +1
    No, until the opportunity to speculate on this topic is eliminated, until there is a national idea with which the overwhelming majority of the population will agree, until the liberal part of the country's population goes against the basis of part of the country - in other words, until the society becomes completely united, interested in the future of his country, traveled speculation of her past.
  9. Overlock
    Overlock 30 October 2017 17: 37
    16
    Yeah, storyteller. The split in society as a result of the revolution is minimal, but a new split has ripened in various directions: property. ideological, national, etc.
  10. Overlock
    Overlock 30 October 2017 17: 43
    +5
    a little more, a little more and GDP will resemble dear Leonid Ilyich. To correct a little diction, to increase eyebrows and more orders .....
    1. walking along the trail
      walking along the trail 30 October 2017 18: 36
      +2
      already, already reminds LIB ...
  11. I doubt it
    I doubt it 30 October 2017 17: 46
    21
    "I hope that this date will be perceived by our society as drawing a line under the dramatic events that divided the country and the people will become a symbol of overcoming this split, a symbol of mutual forgiveness and acceptance ..."

    Yes, for your sake, dear, we will forgive and forget!
    And housing and communal services tariffs, constantly growing, and gasoline, and s / n hard workers at 15..18 tyr. and holidays of 2 weeks a year, and the transport tax that you promised to abolish, by the way. And "Plato" with your Rotenberg ... And queues in kindergartens for 3 ... 5 years. And the medicine is free, which you have all transferred to a paid one. And rural schools, of which you closed. Oh no, they didn’t close it, but "optimized", that's what it's now called! And also factories converted into shopping centers, your television is for. The shameful and all of you avoided the word "Russian" and everything related to it. New Russia tormented. Serdyukov and others like him, unchallenged, untouchable ... thieves ...
    Yes, just do not list. Steering wheels, steering wheels, do not get distracted.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 30 October 2017 20: 33
      +7
      Quote: I doubt it
      Steering wheels, steering wheels, do not get distracted.

      He has not yet “decided” to extend his presence at the helm. Swell still have to break.
    2. albert
      albert 30 October 2017 21: 25
      +5
      About the tax on cats forgot to say. Personally, it especially infuriates me angry
    3. tomket
      tomket 31 October 2017 00: 23
      +5
      Quote: I doubt it
      and transport tax

      he said that it was necessary to study this question. The question is serious, in a hurry the decision to accept, chop wood. Do not rush)))))))).
      Quote: I doubt it
      Serdyukov

      Serdyukov innocent as a child without a sinner, moreover, a Hero! And you're here on an innocent Hero roll a barrel !!! Yes, if not for Serdyukov ... Yes, if only for him .... UUUUUU !!!! The man !!!! Ooooooooooooooo ..... Lump !!!!!!! Ooooooo ......
      Quote: I doubt it
      gasoline

      gasoline cannot be cheap, but do you know how much gasoline costs in Germany? The same thing ...
      Quote: I doubt it
      s / n hard workers in 15..18 sp.

      A man receiving less than 30 thousand is not a man, and a lazy guy. So the deputy said. ))))
      Quote: I doubt it
      And "Plato" with your Rotenberg.

      Do you know how trucks spoil roads ??? What do you know about this)))))
      Quote: I doubt it
      And queues in kindergartens for 3 ... 5 years

      Well, until the turn comes there and go to school, save)))) You are taken care of))))
      Quote: I doubt it
      And rural schools, of which you closed. Oh no, they didn’t close it, but they "optimized"

      Why do you need schools, if there are fixes?)))))
      Quote: I doubt it
      avoidable word "Russian"

      Let's face it. There were no Russians; there were Horde, glade, Drevlyans. But there have never been Russians. Learn the story !!!
      Quote: I doubt it
      New Russia tormented

      Why do we need New Russia? This is another state.
      Just kidding of course. But if you do not like Putin. Vote for Zyuganov (who will win the victory again), for Zhirinovsky. Or for Sobchak (then you can take part in the removal of Lenin) and in collective repose for Stalinism. Although Putin, it seems, also noted in this field ...
      1. insular
        insular 31 October 2017 01: 56
        +4
        Quote: tomket
        gasoline cannot be cheap, but do you know how much gasoline costs in Germany? The same thing ...

        1.3 Euro (roughly 90 rubles) at minimum ZP for 160 hours / month in 1414 Euros (roughly 96000 rubles).
        And now give the same for the Russian Federation, express the cost of a liter of the minimum RFP in% and, as it were, compare “there” and “here”.
        Everything else that you sprinkled has the same value - no matter what.
        Quote: tomket
        Let's face it. There were no Russians; there were Horde, glade, Drevlyans. But there have never been Russians. Learn the story !!!
        Since the Eastern Slavs formed Russia, they became Russian, gaining ethnic identity. Learn history and what are the signs of a single nationality.
        1. tomket
          tomket 31 October 2017 11: 06
          +1
          Quote: insular
          Since the Eastern Slavs formed Russia, they became Russian, gaining ethnic identity. Learn history and what are the signs of a single nationality.


          Yes, I signed below that I JOKE))))
  12. Old military officer
    Old military officer 30 October 2017 17: 52
    +5
    Quote: raid14
    For such slogans, it’s now possible under Article 282, Part 1, “to rattle”
    Actions aimed at inciting hatred or enmity, as well as at humiliating the dignity of a person or group of people, as well as belonging to a social group, specifically the "bourgeoisie", committed publicly or using the media or information and telecommunication networks, including network "Internet.

    They scared the grandmother ... They themselves incite hatred and enmity publicly and using the media, especially since they belong to them, and humiliate human dignity by all means. So that!
  13. Eurodav
    Eurodav 30 October 2017 17: 53
    +3
    Quote: Primoos
    The split on the red square in the mausoleum lies. Bury Ulyanov already, let him rest in a Bose.

    So someone struggled with the church, so that now the indecisive authorities would not even have this loophole left: Russia is an Orthodox state? How do church canons relate to human mummification? Is it negative? Comrade Zyuganov, you have a month to bury! And that’s it ... But don’t forget who lies there! Judean Blank! And only then Ulyanov ... So the Zionists are not yet ready to bury their line ...
  14. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 17: 55
    14
    Vladimir Putin: I hope the anniversary of the revolution will draw a line under the split in society
    That's interesting.
    1. The split in society, in which? There are many cracks in general: red and white, poor and rich, educated (with a tower) and “in raspberry-colored jackets” (), it’s scary to touch the national question. There are beer lovers and there are lovers of the United States, there are "come in large numbers" and there are those who "are not allowed under the law." Now there are Leninists, Stalinists, Trotskyists, and even the monarchists say (I have not seen, I will not lie). So a nicer phrase from the heights of the rostrum is more circumspect (they didn’t come up with a boomerang, but I think in Russia it’s x .... it won’t turn a good thing)
    2. Mr. GDP, what have you done for “unity”? Yes, as there, astral, sacredness, synergy .... pah forgot, round date is good. But things are better. So deal with the liberals, there at home, and we will unite right here, for you. We are waiting, sir.
  15. ZVS
    ZVS 30 October 2017 17: 56
    20
    Putin didn’t understand anything .. It’s a pity ........
    The split in society has nothing to do with revolution. The split in society was created artificially by power, which stands aside and watches the Russians bite. Or encourages monarchists and pseudo-liberals by canonizing non-saints and building centers named after alcoholics who destroyed the country. It saves bankers and at the same time grabs the last pennies from the pocket of the impoverished population.
  16. Overlock
    Overlock 30 October 2017 17: 57
    +8
    The collapse of the Union in the minds began when they began to laugh at Brezhnev, and jokes began. We are already starting to laugh / smile / doubt over GDP and its words ... Anecdotes will go soon
  17. Eurodav
    Eurodav 30 October 2017 17: 58
    +5
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: captain
    Excuse me, sir, did you apparently defend Soviet power with a gun? Or sympathized? If not, then you need to be the first to the wall, for demagoguery.

    Defender of the oligarchs?))) Then you need to engage in the guard. You look will be presented with the happiness of the people to put on the wall!

    Do not touch the Rosguard, why the habit of putting everything in one pile? And at the same time to discuss the split in society ... For some, maybe children, relatives serve there! Have you tried to think with your head before writing?
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 30 October 2017 18: 08
      14
      That is, do you think that the National Guard will not shoot at the people if ordered? Rosguard will not stand up for the protection of the oligarchs, if ordered? Why did they create it? Songs about terrorists just do not need to be sung.
      1. grau
        grau 30 October 2017 18: 15
        +4
        Not that the main thing is which side will the army take
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 30 October 2017 18: 31
          15
          Quote: grau
          Not that the main thing is which side will the army take

          Yes, but when they are not sure about it they create the Royal Guard. Why suddenly during the crisis, the government began to spend billions on the creation of the gendarmerie, do not tell me? There’s not enough money for anything, but then suddenly it’s not a pity! They felt something up there and decided to protect themselves. To organize an extra support for yourself ... I don’t feel sorry for any of this!
          1. grau
            grau 30 October 2017 18: 39
            0
            And the secret police on whose side the FSB will become
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 31 October 2017 09: 10
              0
              “Office" will run over to the side of the winner, as always.
        2. AUL
          AUL 30 October 2017 19: 13
          +2
          Not that the main thing is which side will the army take
          Do you know that Rosgvardia is already superior in numbers to the army? And in the army, many units will not be able, by their specifics (Strategic Missile Forces, electronic warfare, air defense, aviation, fleet, etc.), to exert a special influence on events "in case of what"? So this army, consisting of draftees, mainly animals from the Russian Guard, trained and equipped just for this “in case of what,” will be dispersed with a pissed rag! Our army is imprisoned under ANOTHER war, under OTHER conditions!
          1. zoolu350
            zoolu350 31 October 2017 09: 14
            0
            You forget one moment. The oligarch of the Russian Federation will still not pay the fighters of the Russian Guard (especially ordinary soldiers) as their closest lackeys and this moment makes this system vulnerable.
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 30 October 2017 18: 30
        +2
        will start and with pleasure
      3. weksha50
        weksha50 30 October 2017 18: 39
        +4
        Quote: Stas157
        That is, do you think that the National Guard will not shoot at the people if ordered? Rosguard will not stand up for the protection of the oligarchs, if ordered? Why did they create it? Songs about terrorists just do not need to be sung.


        Hmm ... I could not stand it ... Why are you fixated on this Rosguard and on whether or not it will shoot at people ???
        Didn’t you know, or did you specially forget about the purpose of the internal troops (BB) in the USSR?
        And take other countries - and for what purpose is the national guard, various carabinieri and gendarmes intended? For many things, including helping the population in natural disasters ... BUT !!! First of all - to restore order "in which case" in their territories ...
        Some kind of empty talk ... and empty attacks on Rosguard ... request sad
        1. grau
          grau 30 October 2017 18: 43
          0
          What about patriots?
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 30 October 2017 19: 23
          +6
          Quote: weksha50
          Didn’t you know, or did you specially forget about the purpose of the internal troops (BB) in the USSR?

          They knew. This is a question of subordination and organization. Now we have not just faceless explosives, but Putin’s personal guard, directly subordinate to him, sharpened by popular unrest and unrest. Well, if suddenly the throne stumbles, that would be those who are guaranteed to support.
          Quote: weksha50
          Some kind of empty talk ... and empty attacks on Rosguard ...

          If it were nothing, then no one would spend such gigantic funds at a time when the people - "you hold on, there is no money." After all, the tasks of terrorism, explosives, and so no worse than Rosguard coped. Well, and at least to improve the work in this regard, such a serious reorganization would not be necessary.
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 30 October 2017 19: 29
            +3
            Quote: Stas157
            After all, the tasks of terrorism, explosives, and so no worse than Rosguard coped.


            Well, the execution of Novocherkassk workers in the 60s of the twentieth century is the fight against terrorism, or what?
            Or the protection of those in power at that time and the existing system?
            What, in fact, is the difference? In the name of the existing state-system and the ruling elites?
            And the essence of THESE armed units is one ... And - not only in Russia ...
      4. Overlock
        Overlock 30 October 2017 18: 49
        +8
        A second army was created from Rosguard (in case of a riot of the first?). Think about it, on the RF Armed Forces with all the tanks, nuclear missiles, nuclear submarines, airplanes, helicopters, etc., as much money is allocated as for the prosecutor's office, the police, the FSB, the Russian Guard. Therefore, the guards of the cardinal with great pleasure will shoot the rebellious

        2018 budget in numbers
        Federal budget expenditures - in the current fiscal year:
        - national defense provides 1,121 trillion;

        - 1,270 trillion planned for security and law enforcement agencies;
        1. grau
          grau 30 October 2017 18: 51
          0
          The people and the army are one
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 30 October 2017 19: 05
            +7
            are the police, the FSB, the Russian Guard and the people united? I don’t think they will say that.
      5. You Vlad
        You Vlad 30 October 2017 18: 53
        +2
        Quote: Stas157
        That is, do you think that the National Guard will not shoot at the people if ordered?

        Of course it will be democratic rubber and gazkom too purely democratic! Lean on the people, build a castle on the sand! You can manipulate the opinion of the people and in essence it is passive, in order to organize you need a lot of money fellow But who does they have? Well, not the people have it for sure, so you will fight for someone’s interests! Well, not what do you believe in the promises! Well, come on, for all the good versus all the bad drinks
      6. You Vlad
        You Vlad 30 October 2017 19: 26
        +3
        Quote: Stas157
        Why did they create it?

        It's not a secret!
        Main goals:

        participation in maintaining public order, ensuring public safety;
        ensuring the territorial integrity and defense of Russia;
        development and implementation, regulation in the field of:
        activities of the national guard forces;
        weapons turnover;
        private security activities;
        private security
        control over the activities of departmental security (with the exception of departmental security of the Russian Ministry of Defense)
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 31 October 2017 09: 14
          +5
          But what, hasn’t anyone done this before, that it was necessary to create a new structure? Why did you print this little list?
  18. TechnoID
    TechnoID 30 October 2017 18: 06
    +3
    "I hope that this date will be perceived by our society as drawing a line under the dramatic events that divided the country and people ..."
    From the speech of the chairman of the Central Committee of the CPSU in late September 2093, dedicated to overcoming the consequences of the coup in September-October 1993.
  19. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 30 October 2017 18: 17
    +9
    Funny :-) Interesting, but Putin himself believes in that? If so, then he is a great blind man.
  20. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 30 October 2017 18: 31
    +1
    This is unlikely ... The split in any society is growing in parallel with the income gap between the "elite" and the rest of the population. The authorities must understand this ...
  21. walking along the trail
    walking along the trail 30 October 2017 18: 32
    +6
    On the contrary, the question is becoming more and more relevant. No.
  22. Esoteric
    Esoteric 30 October 2017 18: 50
    +9
    As long as there is capitalism with its brutal exploitation of the man of labor, while there is a property difference and a difference in income, while there is legalized speculation and there are no civil rights and obligations binding on everyone (at least the appearance of this) , no tracing will be. Sooner or later, a new generation will come from among those who care about where cars are parked, where they drink alcohol, who are tired of vegetating on miserable handouts and looking at greasy-faced people smashing their cars against pedestrians ...
    You, Vladimir Vladimirovich, it is time to decide with friends who surround you. Despite their participation in the process of your presidency and premiership ...
  23. Sergey53
    Sergey53 30 October 2017 18: 58
    0
    Any war unleashed from the outside is carried out to weaken the state.
  24. Vitaly
    Vitaly 30 October 2017 19: 00
    +2
    November 7th, at the demonstration and "draw the line"! The goal of society is to reduce 0,4% to full zero. Yes, and Gozmanov and Solzhenitsyn drive out so that the earth is not rotten!
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 30 October 2017 19: 23
      +3
      Quote: Vitaly
      November 7th, at the demonstration and "draw the line"! The goal of society is to reduce 0,4% to full zero. Yes, and Gozmanov and Solzhenitsyn drive out so that the earth is not rotten!

      The program of events in Moscow from the site of the Communist Party
      07 November

      15:00 - Festive procession and rally. Gathering on Pushkin Square at 14:30.

      20:00 - Gala Reception (Andreevsky Conference Hall of the Renaissance Moscow Hotel, Leningradsky prospekt, 31a, p. 1).

      The hotel is officially called the "Renaissance Monarch" - That is, the "revival of the monarch", if translated.
      This is all you need to know about the current Communist Party. wassat
  25. captain
    captain 30 October 2017 19: 04
    +5
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: captain
    Excuse me, sir, did you apparently defend Soviet power with a gun? Or sympathized? If not, then you need to be the first to the wall, for demagoguery.

    Defender of the oligarchs?))) Then you need to engage in the guard. You look will be presented with the happiness of the people to put on the wall!

    And why do you question my question and proposal to put couch revolutionaries on the wall? It was necessary in 1991 to fight for the happiness of the people with an automatic gun in their hands, and not wait for someone to lay their heads for you. Bed talkers.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 30 October 2017 19: 34
      +6
      Quote: captain
      And why do you question my question and proposal to put couch revolutionaries on the wall?

      Aggression is more likely with you! And I have amazement about your proposal.
      Quote: captain
      It was necessary in 1991 with a gun in his hands to fight for people's happiness, and not wait for someone to lay their heads for you. Bed talkers.

      Then all were passive. Learned about everything on TV. Remember, nobody thought that the USSR would not exist. They told everyone that this reorganization is simple, from the USSR to the CIS. No one understood immediately from ordinary people. All deceived.
      1. freddyk
        freddyk 30 October 2017 22: 56
        +4
        That’s for sure, no one has stuttered about the change of order from socialist to capitalist, but they are not fools. In the fools the people left
    2. Freeman
      Freeman 30 October 2017 20: 01
      +5
      Captain Today, 19: 04
      It was necessary in 1991 with a gun in his hands to fight for people's happiness,

      In May 93 they tried with their bare hands, there were no machine guns - they received batons and water cannons.

      In October 93, when a couple of hundred assault rifles appeared, they got it from tank guns.
      Threat. I did not go - the “leaders” were one “rotten” of the other. And now there are none.
    3. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 31 October 2017 08: 19
      0
      Well, probably because you yourself did not come out with a gun.
  26. Overlock
    Overlock 30 October 2017 19: 43
    +5
    Quote: Stas157
    Well, if suddenly the throne stumbles, that would be those who are guaranteed to support.

    You can rely on bayonets, but you cannot sit on them
    The meaning of the expression: military force is good only for military purposes (defeating the enemy, armed coup, etc.), but for the governance of the country it takes much more than just power - you need intelligence, ideas that unite society, social harmony, common will, etc.
  27. Evgeny Strygin
    Evgeny Strygin 30 October 2017 19: 57
    +4
    something you can’t see it. Probably it is necessary more often to open monuments to repressions of the 37th year!
    True, there is a risk that the "not split" people may ask to put a monument to the holy 90m. With a solemn digging into the foundation of all those who are involved in this happiness. The amusing coincidence is that these same instances push the same monuments to the unfortunate victims of the "bloody scoop."
    We fly in the same direction.
  28. Vicon
    Vicon 30 October 2017 20: 09
    +3
    And before the revolution, our people apparently were ONE, the question is who with whom? And now, apparently, we should forgive the rich that they are rich, and the rich to forgive the poor that they are poor. Forgive and reconcile, or what are they calling us to? We are called upon to perpetuate the memory of the victims of the civil war and the repressed, but for some reason only those who were destroyed by the Bolsheviks. But didn’t the White Guards destroy anyone, shoot them, or hang them? This is cunning.
  29. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 30 October 2017 20: 10
    +5
    "According to the head of state, he hopes that the 100th anniversary of the revolution will be perceived by the Russians as a symbol of overcoming the split in society. From the statement of the president"
    No, it won’t. From mark my word, there won’t be. You have to be a big optimist to think so. hi
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 October 2017 20: 56
      +1
      Oil will take off again and the split will finally “grow together”
  30. Overlock
    Overlock 30 October 2017 20: 20
    +1
    Quote: Benzorez
    You have to be a big optimist to think so.

    I have a different word, not an optimist
    1. Logall
      Logall 30 October 2017 20: 27
      +8
      This is not the right word! And then, if without a mat, there will be no-care, "sanguine"!
  31. NordUral
    NordUral 30 October 2017 21: 18
    0
    Werewolf Sabbath.
  32. Bronevick
    Bronevick 30 October 2017 21: 51
    +1
    Putin does not like revolution.
  33. pepel
    pepel 30 October 2017 22: 00
    +3
    The split in society can be overcome by recognizing a change in the social system in Russia and if the liberals stop reopening the wounds of repression. They yell all the time about the victims of repression in full throat, although it would be time to calm down. Historical assessments of that time are given, and these hypocrites all the time support a split in society on this topic. Apparently, if this topic is stopped constantly being cheated, the liberals will be unnecessary to anyone (they will be on the sidelines of politics). Therefore, this topic will always be on the agenda of the liberal party.
  34. Overlock
    Overlock 30 October 2017 22: 33
    +2
    Quote: You Vlad
    The opinion of the people can be manipulated and in essence it is passive, in order to organize money is needed a lot of money

    5. The dictator's highest duty is social justice. If people feel that the dictator represents a small large bourgeoisie that has nothing to do with them, then they will see the worst enemy in the dictator and quickly overthrow him.
    7. The dictator does not need to follow the will of the majority. However, he must be able to use the will of the people.

    8. To lead the parties and the masses is the same as to rule the people. He who destroys the party will lead the people to the edge of the abyss. Political skill does not at all consist in using deceptive methods to obtain a ministerial position at the expense of others.
    18. The army exists to protect the country from external threats, and not to oppress the people in the interests of a handful of usurpers. A dictatorship that fails to protect itself with the help of its supporters deserves to be overthrown.
    P. J. Goebbels Twenty Tips to the Dictator and Those Who Want to Become One. 1939
  35. Radikal
    Radikal 30 October 2017 22: 53
    0
    During the Council meeting, the President noted that the number of NGOs - “foreign agents” in the country has recently decreased from 165 to 89
    Oops! This is the "help"! And where did they go ?! wassat
  36. Radikal
    Radikal 30 October 2017 23: 05
    +3
    Quote: I doubt it
    "I hope that this date will be perceived by our society as drawing a line under the dramatic events that divided the country and the people will become a symbol of overcoming this split, a symbol of mutual forgiveness and acceptance ..."

    Yes, for your sake, dear, we will forgive and forget!
    And housing and communal services tariffs, constantly growing, and gasoline, and s / n hard workers at 15..18 tyr. and holidays of 2 weeks a year, and the transport tax that you promised to abolish, by the way. And "Plato" with your Rotenberg ... And queues in kindergartens for 3 ... 5 years. And the medicine is free, which you have all transferred to a paid one. And rural schools, of which you closed. Oh no, they didn’t close it, but "optimized", that's what it's now called! And also factories converted into shopping centers, your television is for. The shameful and all of you avoided the word "Russian" and everything related to it. New Russia tormented. Serdyukov and others like him, unchallenged, untouchable ... thieves ...
    Yes, just do not list. Steering wheels, steering wheels, do not get distracted.

    good drinks
  37. alfa19638
    alfa19638 30 October 2017 23: 15
    +9
    Through a coup, traitors and pro-Western minions seized power and destroyed the country! Spit on the opinion of the peoples of the USSR expressed in a referendum! The wealthy are getting richer, laws are written for themselves, and the authorities approve and support it, banks robbed and enslaved the people with predatory interest, exterminated the peasantry, the transition to paid medicine and education ... and he talks about reconciliation? Patriotism is wonderful, but if you have to fight for someone, for the interests of a handful of family clans, the people will figure out whether they need imposed capitalism. No, this is not a split yet.
    This is not a split, yet.
    1. Vladimir K.
      Vladimir K. 31 October 2017 06: 42
      +2
      I agree with you, but I don’t want a split, although I already have it, and I don’t even want to, indifferently look at the occupants traveling along my street, who will not be stopped by those who decide: why should I die for the interests of the seeds of the oligarchs?
  38. Radikal
    Radikal 31 October 2017 00: 57
    0
    Quote: Bronevick
    Putin does not like revolution.

    Which - October, or the coming ...?! wassat
  39. ver_
    ver_ 31 October 2017 03: 39
    0
    Quote: Zibelew
    In fact, they returned to where they started. Now we compare what capitalism is and what socialism is. And the October Revolution is a natural result of the moral decay of those who ruled the Russian Empire.

    ... and who ruled her? ..
  40. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 31 October 2017 04: 15
    +5
    Well, yes, the anniversary will pass - and the lion will lie down next to the lamb, to say the oligarch with the homeless.
  41. Vladimir K.
    Vladimir K. 31 October 2017 06: 39
    +6
    They talk about reconciliation and compromise, but bashfully drape Lenin's mausoleum for the holidays, open the "lament walls", "Yeltsin centers", memorials to the victims of real and imaginary repressions, demolish monuments to Lenin, just like the Nazis do in Ukraine. Where is the compromise? I see only the reaction (in the sense of counter-revolution) of those who lost power in October 1917, I see that their point of view is imposed on society as the only true one, I see the blackening of the entire Soviet period of our history, and something that cannot be denigrated is somehow miraculous it is separated from the Soviet power and attributed either to the impersonal "Russian people" or to some ingenious loners who achieved success not thanks to the system in collaboration with millions of other Soviet citizens, namely alone, opposing the system and the whole gray mass of the scoop.
  42. sergei1975
    sergei1975 31 October 2017 08: 31
    +3
    Should the worker and the oligarch hug, and everything will be all right?
  43. Million
    Million 31 October 2017 09: 25
    0
    Everything turned upside down!
  44. native Russian
    native Russian 31 October 2017 09: 35
    0
    Grandmother and grandfather are sitting in front of the “box” talking. In one news, they say how billions were stolen yesterday, and that’s where he is behind bars. In another news, they say that he stole billions the day before yesterday, but he left conditionally. In the third, the salaries of officials are voiced. Then again they crap in the brain, earned by strange billions from the sale of weapons or something else. The fourth news: there is no split in society.
    Grandfather and grandmother in the amount of pension of 25 TR receive, half goes to a communal apartment and help children and grandchildren.
    Scary: but they are used to such news.
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, there really will not be a revolution, but not because of the absence of a split in society, but because of the fact that neither the youth (I mean adequate youth working) neither the old men, nor the peasant at the factory, because he smells people in order to feed the family. Yes, and we are accustomed to "spoiling" human heads. What a revolution ...
  45. Radikal
    Radikal 31 October 2017 12: 51
    0
    Quote: sergei1975
    Should the worker and the oligarch hug, and everything will be all right?

    good
  46. etrofimov
    etrofimov 31 October 2017 13: 40
    +2
    Let's draw a line under the unfinished ones, not we, so the descendants will fail! Who to put up with? with the robbers of the Motherland and the People ???
  47. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 31 October 2017 14: 12
    +3
    Does he hope to overcome the split? And in what way? Continuing to falsify the history of the great revolution? Continuing to nudge the great achievements of this revolution? Of course, he does not personally do all this, but with his tacit consent. Faced with the building of democracy (and essentially a cannibalistic system), they are trying to erase the imaginary horrors of the Soviet system, silent that their cannibalistic system has reduced the population of Russia by 20 million people. The Stalinist “repressions” inflated by them to the paranoid size smoke nervously aside while looking at their “achievements”. Even Hitler shudders, only slightly conceding to the current system in terms of the number exterminated (27 million) .. Look at the Russian media and you will see that there is no talk of reconciliation, there is a frank mockery of YOUR (?) Past. Lying and caring took on simply terrifying proportions. And this one ... about reconciliation ... open your eyes ... I think he just doesn’t have a conscience since this turns his tongue to speak.