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In the United States intend to improve the efficiency of aviation through laser weapons

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Пентагон намерен резко повысить эффективность своих aviation платформ за счет высокоточного лазерного weaponswho can shoot down missiles and hit ground targets, reports Expert Online.




In particular, it is planned to equip with lasers all heavy F-22 fighters and new LRS-B strategic bombers, the development of which began 3 a year ago. And in the future, almost all of the strike aircraft platforms to be built in the United States should be equipped with combat laser complexes. This is the task of the Pentagon strategists.

Recently, the USAF ordered a compact but powerful laser generator from Lockheed Martin. For this purpose, only $ 26 million has been allocated so far. But this amount should not be embarrassing, since this is the first stage of research work. Creating a full-fledged laser will cost hundreds of millions of dollars.

“All work on this subject is carried out within the framework of the top-secret project SHIELD (Self-protect High Energy Laser Demonstrator), about which the military themselves prefer not to cover. It is only known that, according to the assignment of the US Air Force, they need three types of lasers, ”writes the publication.

The most low-power (less than one kilowatt) pilots will be able to use weapons to aim at the target and to counter enemy surveillance systems. The installations of average power (several tens of kilowatts) are intended to shoot down air-to-air and ground-to-air missiles, that is, to protect the aircraft itself. Finally, a powerful laser (more than a hundred kilowatts) will be needed to destroy enemy aircraft and destroy targets on the ground.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 30 October 2017 15: 51 New
    +4
    "But this amount should not be embarrassing, since we are talking about the first stage of research work. Creating a full-fledged laser will cost hundreds of millions of dollars."
    Something they are modest. Hundreds of millions - this is so, to the seed. The costs of the F-35 are very indicative in this case.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 30 October 2017 15: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Hundreds of millions - this is so, to seed.

      Fed stamps as many candy wrappers as needed yes
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 30 October 2017 16: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: Rurikovich
        Fed stamps as many candy wrappers as needed

        No doubt about it.
        Finally, a powerful laser (more than a hundred kilowatts) will need already to destroy enemy aircraft and defeat targets on earth.
        Well, I will not argue that I will need it, but what will happen ...., as it is doubtful ...
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 30 October 2017 18: 04 New
          +2
          Finally, a powerful laser (more than a hundred kilowatts) will be needed

          Otkel will take such power on their pepelats?
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 30 October 2017 23: 59 New
            +2
            Current lasers, made by children on a knee from a laser from a CD-RW drive, powered by batteries, quite successfully blind aircraft pilots and disable television cameras. So against missiles with an optical homing head (and those guided by the laser beam also apply to them) is quite effective protection. And it does not require large power.
            The Pentagon successfully tested a combat laser on a Boeing 747 aircraft back in the 2008th year. However, I encountered the same difficulties as the USSR in its time - the slightest dustiness / smokiness of air, and the laser instantly loses power with each meter passed. However, they recognized the weapon as suitable for shooting down satellites, only to raise the plane higher, where the air is clean.
            But on the F-22 - I doubt it very much. There were five generators at Boeing with a total capacity of 250 kW. Plus, the laser itself weighed several tons. Making a defensive laser for the F-22 is not a problem, an offensive one is unlikely.
      2. Shura Perm
        Shura Perm 30 October 2017 16: 59 New
        +1
        another money laundering project, tons of bucks will be lowered with the conclusion that such a weapon is not viable ...
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 30 October 2017 18: 43 New
          +3
          Quote: Shura Perm
          another money laundering project,

          Maybe ... but for example in the Russian Federation they are seriously working on creating beam weapons, plasma and the same laser. As far as I understand, the most promising direction from the point of view of our military is beam weapons.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 30 October 2017 21: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: Shura Perm
          another money laundering project, tons of bucks will be lowered with the conclusion that such a weapon is not viable ...

          Well, except that as a “blaster” for pilots of enemy aircraft, like a laser pointer, which, after mastering the allocated millions, will ultimately stick with silver scotch tape to silver wings, posing as the latest development.
    2. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 30 October 2017 16: 05 New
      +2
      Let it be better to announce the development of a space cruiser or death star, so you can cut more dough and scare potential opponents.
  2. gukoyan
    gukoyan 30 October 2017 15: 54 New
    +1
    They found a feeding trough for drank babos ...
  3. Altona
    Altona 30 October 2017 15: 56 New
    +2
    It remains only to solve the problems with the atmosphere - cloudiness, dustiness, lightning discharges and they will succeed. Well, the ubiquitous Elon Musk will tell them how to make an energy-supplying platform out of 100500 spent Chinese AAA or AA batteries.
    1. telemech
      telemech 30 October 2017 18: 29 New
      0
      At an altitude of 8-10 km, what is cloudy and dusty? The minimum. It is quite possible to apply. And at altitudes of 15-20 km and above, there is almost no atmosphere (almost).
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 30 October 2017 19: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: telemech
        At an altitude of 8-10 km, what is cloudy and dusty? The minimum. It is quite possible to apply. And at altitudes of 15-20 km and above, there is almost no atmosphere (almost).

        AND? Is 100kv enough to defeat ground equipment from such a height?
  4. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 30 October 2017 16: 01 New
    +2
    Somewhere I've heard that before what ....
    Oh yeah, Reagan's Star Wars program fellow Only that bluff was designed for the naivete of the Soviet leadership, and the non-bluff was for cutting the budget request
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 30 October 2017 16: 07 New
      +1
      Oh yes, Reagan's Star Wars program fellow Only that bluff was designed for the naivete of the Soviet leadership, and the non-bluff was for cutting the budget request

      Ours already ordered a satellite with nuclear power plants and a laser, here the news weighs on the resource. wink
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 30 October 2017 16: 14 New
        0
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Ours already ordered a satellite with a nuclear power plant and a laser

        Laser - to transfer anergy to other pepelats, and not for battle wink
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 30 October 2017 16: 14 New
          +3
          Of course, of course, to transfer energy to the enemy Pepelats. winked
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 30 October 2017 20: 31 New
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            Quote: BlackMokona
            Of course, of course, to transfer energy to the enemy Pepelats. winked

            good
  5. Wedmak
    Wedmak 30 October 2017 16: 04 New
    0
    Shtirlitsa was embarrassed by only one thing - will the F-22 remain in service by the time these lasers appear and where will they attach them, if any?
    And the new bomb still has a big question - why would it need lasers operating at a maximum of 2 a dozen kilometers, if it is stealth and will be armed with the KR? And in fact it is a cheaper version of the B-2 ... With its LTX, lasers will not save from anti-aircraft missiles.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 October 2017 16: 14 New
      +2
      "will remain in service with the F-22 by the time these lasers appear" ////

      Lasers and installations are already there. They are mounted on the Israeli military.
      transporters, and they are bought by some civilian airlines.
      They protect the aircraft from below from MANPADS and airborne explosives and explosives during an attack from below.
      Disadvantage: dimensions, protection only from the bottom (or 2 settings are needed).
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 30 October 2017 16: 18 New
        0
        Are lasers? Maybe they just put infrared noise, confusing the rocket? Can I have a reference to the performance characteristics of the appliance?
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          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 30 October 2017 16: 39 New
            0
            Clearly, laser blinding a MANPADS missile. Optics + IR GOS will go against the heads, the main thing is to get into the rocket with a beam. I don’t think that the Americans meant this. Systems blinding SAM with all kinds of GOS have long been known and are even put on helicopters. It's about the destruction of missiles and work on the ground.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 30 October 2017 16: 49 New
              0
              It is only a matter of power. As you can imagine, SLA, guidance,
              calculations - everything is ready. In the form of a serial military-commercial
              instrument. The power will increase - you can burn the heads (or sides)
              rockets. Power will also increase (a beam of several rays focused on the target) - the enemy’s aircraft can also be damaged.
              The point is the overall compactness of the device and the power of the system. It’s difficult to fit into the fighter’s hull. But in the container underneath it is possible.
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 30 October 2017 16: 56 New
                +2
                It is only a matter of power.

                Not only. SAM is usually supersonic, the casing can withstand quite large thermal loads. In addition, the air flow can easily carry away kilowatts of heat from the surface. Well, clouds, dust, and so on will greatly reduce the radius of action.
                Is there enough time for burning? There, time changes in seconds, rarely over a dozen.
              2. okko077
                okko077 30 October 2017 17: 49 New
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                And what will these generators supply, where will you get energy sources, how much will they weigh, and in which container under the plane will you put them? Nobody has canceled physics yet! There is no revolution in energy sources yet, so continue fantasizing for now ....
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 30 October 2017 18: 07 New
                  0
                  "where do you get energy sources" ///

                  The fighter has a very powerful engine. Energy and fuel are stock.
                  Can I borrow a little on the laser? wink
                  1. okko077
                    okko077 30 October 2017 19: 42 New
                    +1
                    Moishe, the storyteller! Learn materiel .... you think: why all tests go on cargo or large-sized aircraft?
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 30 October 2017 23: 43 New
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                      It is useful to read the article before entering into a discussion:
                      "Lasers, in particular, plan to equip all heavy
                      F-22 fighters
                      1. okko077
                        okko077 31 October 2017 02: 36 New
                        +3
                        Moysha, don’t drive the wave ... Khazbiev fantasizes, and you sucker bought a fake ... I also found authority, the same teapot like you .... You published an article from a murzilka, and you develop an idea for the kids .... , do verbiage further, even this dreamer promised it after hypersound, as soon as your F22 hypersound prevails, then they will immediately put the laser killed on it ... Now it’s clear ....
        2. Obstacle
          Obstacle 31 October 2017 05: 43 New
          0
          Offhand I found this. "The Israeli government has decided to equip the Israeli civilian aircraft fleet with directional infrared counteraction systems (DIRCM systems) to protect aircraft from potential threats from man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS)." And also "C-music is a comprehensive self-defense solution for airborne "In the photo under the fuselage of the B707, the Elisra Paws missile launch warning system and the J-Music infrared guidance system are installed in the aerodynamic pylon."
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 October 2017 16: 04 New
    +4
    "(several tens of kilowatts) are designed to shoot down class missiles
    "Air-air" and "ground-air", that is, to protect the aircraft itself "////

    This is a very, very hot topic. She will completely change the tactics of application
    aviation. A 30-40 kW laser can bring down an attacking rocket a few hundred meters from the plane.
    What is a safe distance and real for burning a shell
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 30 October 2017 16: 09 New
    0
    By the time a laser suitable for use in aerial combat appears, the 6th generation aircraft will be in service! !! fool
  8. Eurodav
    Eurodav 30 October 2017 16: 10 New
    0
    This is the right thing! Lasers on the air !!! And how beautiful it is! Some Hollywood action movies
    looked! And asking for money and giving ...
  9. Sergei75
    Sergei75 30 October 2017 16: 19 New
    0
    Something does not bother them, not dust in the atmosphere, not precipitation.
    But the Reagan "star wars" stopped after Humpback told him that if something happened, we would blow up a carriage with nuts in orbit.
    Regarding star wars, Reagan did not succeed in drawing the USSR into an arms race, and Buran was a response to their shuttle imitation of the bombing of Moscow on November 7, when he dived into the atmosphere.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 30 October 2017 16: 38 New
      0
      But the Reagan "star wars" stopped after Humpback told him that if something happened, we would blow up a carriage with nuts in orbit.

      Humpback capitulated. By the time SOI was turned off, Hunchback was already resting in London.
      SOI in 1993 turned.
    2. Sharansky
      Sharansky 30 October 2017 17: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergei75
      to pull the USSR into an arms race failed

      if 1/5 of GNP is not an arms race, then what?
      1. Sergei75
        Sergei75 1 November 2017 17: 28 New
        0
        Where did the firewood come from the forest?
    3. Gml
      Gml 30 October 2017 18: 19 New
      +4
      no dust in the atmosphere, no precipitation.
      Smoke, Smoke forgotten, and the mirror again, how could it be without it?
      And Reagan's Star Wars Ceased
      They crowned with a crushing victory. Where is the USSR? That's it.
  10. Irokez
    Irokez 30 October 2017 16: 25 New
    0
    I will say this: - "A promising idea with laser weapons and this is quite realistic in the future." Americans, in principle, look to the future, but about money is another conversation that also has a place to be.
    Surely ours, too, have been working on, are working on and will work on such prospects.
    1. Gml
      Gml 30 October 2017 18: 21 New
      0
      Surely we also worked
      It cannot be, But what about the laws of physics that are for everyone and therefore the laser cannot work? Have not seen for a long time.
  11. BMP-2
    BMP-2 30 October 2017 17: 50 New
    +1
    Photos used: https://www.gazeta.ru/breakingdefense.com

    And what was photographed: funny pictures? wassat
  12. SEERforSEER
    SEERforSEER 31 October 2017 07: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: Shurik70
    Current lasers made by children on a knee from a laser from a CD-RW drive, powered by batteries, quite successfully blind aircraft pilots and disable television cameras.
    Have you tried it yourself? Do not write or disseminate this nonsense ...
  13. Altona
    Altona 31 October 2017 07: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: telemech
    At an altitude of 8-10 km, what is cloudy and dusty? The minimum. It is quite possible to apply. And at altitudes of 15-20 km and above, there is almost no atmosphere (almost).

    ------------------------------
    Then the question remains of generating high power and the raster of the beam itself. But in general, who do you want to shoot at such a height?