Operation "Edelweiss". Last secret

In the last year, climbers unexpectedly began to find the remains of Soviet soldiers on the Elbrus glacier. How they were able to reach almost the top of Elbrus, without any climbing equipment, one can only guess. As if some unknown force had brought here a whole company directly from the plain. But who are these people? What was this battle? Historical sources say - there were no serious military operations in precisely these places during the war years.

Even the initial results of the investigation undertaken by local climbers and rescuers of the Ministry of Emergency Situations were shocking: perhaps one of the secrets of the Great Patriotic War rested here for 70 for years - why Hitler’s elaborate Edelweiss plan to seize the Caucasus could have failed.

It is known that the famous detachment of German mountain rangers "Edelweiss" stopped on Elbrus, who was given the task to immediately overcome the Main Caucasus Range, go to the rear of the Soviet troops and start a sabotage war there.

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[32363]

a housemate served in the Edelweiss, literally about 3 weeks ago he told me how they seized a bloodless Shelter 11. One of the locals was ordered to go to the Shelter by the Soviet soldiers as a parliamentarian, and say that if they didn’t leave on their own, the Germans would call the aircraft, namely the U-87 and the shelter, they would be wiped off the face of the earth, the Germans were bluffing, they had no aircraft, but the trick worked and the Soviet fighters left, the Germans missed them, there were about 120-130 of them. The shelter was safe and sound, and when the time came for the Germans to leave, the shelter was also left safe and sound.

[Freelancer7]

What can not be said about the thousands of villages, cities and villages ... Visilitsy by the road, ravines with corpses ... One gesture does not honor the entire Wehrmacht ...

[32363]

Quote: Freelancer7

What can not be said about the thousands of villages, cities and villages ... Visilitsy by the road, ravines with corpses ... One gesture does not honor the entire Wehrmacht ...

and yet, communicating with many Soviet WWII veterans, units expressed hatred of the Germans, even my teacher, a blockade worker from Leningrad, never spoke badly, a neighbor who visited a concentration camp, and one Kazakh veteran on May 2 told me that there are only three great warriors Russian people, Germans and Kazakhs.

[Freelancer7]

We will not raise a nationalist argument, I’ll just say: ... the blockade didn’t speak out badly? the victims of the concentration camp did not speak out badly? Yes, you read the memoirs ... Workers in the besieged Leningrad rushed to the front line to fight off an enemy bullet while taking a couple of "Fritz" with them, than die slowly and painfully at the factory, fainting after squatting ... (Golushko’s memoirs and the tanks came to life again. ") People took their hatred in battles," beat the Fritz not sparing their lives "... I read more than a dozen memoirs, but nowhere was there indifference to the enemy ... people clearly understood who was to blame for the deaths of their loved ones , in hunger, cold, suffering. Your post is similar to the preface to the book "The blockade of Leningrad, the people's book of memory of 300 real destinies and 300 real stories." In particular, in a nutshell - Why do you react emotionally when recalling the war, and how much will you speculate in our current history of the 20st century? ". You will find the answer in the book ... read, you are too protected from facts ... People hated fascists, and what the Nazis did (especially infantry, and the Gestapo) can not be equated to "never spoke badly" ... In our city of Orel, a mother and child were nailed with bayonets on the door of the department store in memory of people not helping the partisans and the Soviet regime ... A teacher who taught XNUMX years ago and we, with my own eyes, saw how the Eagle lived during the years of occupation ... The Nazis were a beast that crushed people for the sake of fun ...

[32363]

Quote: Freelancer7

Let's not breed a nationalist argument,

Yes, I didn’t try, I re-read many memoirs myself, but live communication is not a memoir, I say it as it was.

[Freelancer7]

Well then, with logic, can you justify how a person affected by the Nazis can normally relate to them? Okay, the descendants - they did not see the horror of war and deprivation, they, what there, can "forgive" the Germans some acts in the past, but a living witness of the concentration camp - in my opinion he should not ...

or judging by the flag of the avatar you live in Germany and there was communication with those living in Germany, then of course, why do they need to respond badly if they are in Germany?

[antivirus]

antivirus 3 November 20, 2016 12:36
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Sergei Gavrilovich Semenov, 1931, d. Maksimovo, Staritsky district of the Kalinin region: "We were under the German for a month and a half, but nearby, under Rzhev 1,5 g, They did not consider us to be people." At 10 years old, the child understood instinctively, everyday communication, glances and were beaten, expelled from the hut.
+ the elder brother died at the front, and 2 more were blown up on the remaining supplies in the ground (which ones? I dismantled out of curiosity, but I don’t know)
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[Vladimir K.]

What are you talking about? You think up along the lines of “edelweiss neighbors”, “teachers from the besieged Leningrad”, “Kazakh veterans” and other characters in order to convince the public here that the Germans were almost herbivorous, glorious guys like that. You would have dragged here some “Jewish acquaintance” who had a good time in Auschwitz, sometimes even basking at the stove in the boiler room, where compassionate Essesses with good eyes would let him in))). But what about the Erenburg verse "Kill a German!" - Is it an invention of the bloody Bolsheviks or is it a poet, having felt the mood of the people, struck by the atrocities of the invaders, composed quite sincerely and did the majority of the people think so?

[32363]

Quote: Vladimir K.

What are you talking about? You think up along the lines of “neighbors from edelweiss”, “teachers from besieged Leningrad”, “Kazakh veterans”

the pistol is not accustomed, everything is true.
about Jews I can throw off a documentary where they live in a camp as in a sanatorium, waiting for shipment to Palestine, everywhere links with these vidos were destroyed, but this one is still alive.

[Sverdlov]

And in the nineties, the Czechs burned him ...

[serge siberian]

Here it is the truth of life. Their names are unknown, but the feat of soldiers is already being revealed to the people who won the terrible war. I believe that all the same time will pass and the descendants will recognize the names of all these heroes and remember them by name.
Thanks to the expedition for the work done, hard work.

[Sverdlov]

we are on Elbrus at 85m. I'm not in the photo, I'm behind the camera.

[Sverdlov]

and this is an echo of war from the southern slopes of Elbrus from the same campaign.
RGD grenade and American explosives brought home by plane!
there was no mind and now there is no ....

[mavrus]

Quote: Freelancer7

Well then, with logic, can you justify how a person affected by the Nazis can normally relate to them? Okay, the descendants - they did not see the horror of war and deprivation, they, what there, can "forgive" the Germans some acts in the past, but a living witness of the concentration camp - in my opinion he should not ...

or judging by the flag of the avatar you live in Germany and there was communication with those living in Germany, then of course, why do they need to respond badly if they are in Germany?

My maternal grandfather died in February 42, three children remained, the eldest daughter was 9 years old, the paternal grandfather died in August 43, two children, the eldest 8 ... What kind of love for Germans I could hear from their grandmothers, who, because of these Germans, in hunger and devastation, without husbands, raised their children. By the way, my mother, after the war, to help her at least somehow, her father’s elder brother took him up ... He was much older, served as a soldier, he attended two funerals, but he returned alive, and both his sons died on front ... What kind of love for Germans in childhood could they all tell me?
This is to ensure that this German (judging by the profile picture) doesn’t deceive himself very much, about the fact that they are very much loved here for what they have done here.

[32363]

Quote: mavrus

This is to ensure that this German (judging by the profile picture) doesn’t deceive himself very much, about the fact that they are very much loved here for what they have done here.

I do not flatter myself, I just wanted to say that people who survived have less hatred than those born after the war.

[Roman Lisakovsky]

It may be individuals, but not most.

[antivirus]

sprinkle saliva-one, and keep at a distance of "FRIENDS" - live there. DON'T HERE - this is our shit DO NOT DIP IN IT and in those tears that have not dried in 75 years.

[Black5Raven]

Quote: antivirus

sprinkle saliva-one, and keep at a distance of "FRIENDS" - live there. DON'T HERE - this is our shit DO NOT DIP IN IT and in those tears that have not dried in 75 years.

The Russian language would have been better learned by the "patriot" than by writing down comments.