The Court of Appeal allowed not to dismantle the turbines in the Crimea, bought from Siemens

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The Court of Appeal did not cancel the decision of the court of first instance on the claim of the German company Siemens against the structures of Rostec regarding the installation of turbines on the Crimean peninsula. Recall that Siemens said that Russian companies should dismantle gas turbines that are used at power plants in the Crimea, since "the contract did not state that Russia would not use turbines on the Taman Peninsula."

The Court of Appeal allowed not to dismantle the turbines in the Crimea, bought from Siemens




The appellate court upheld the decision of the court of first instance. Thus, Technopromexport LLC and Technoprom LLC shall not dismantle.

At the same time, the German company continues to demand in a judicial procedure recognition of a legally invalid contract, under which Russian companies ultimately supplied gas turbines to the Crimean peninsula. In response, the Russian company Technopromexport filed a counterclaim against the German company, claiming that Siemens, after concluding a contract, did not have the right to demand from one of its parties "geographical execution of turbine installation." In other words, the Russian company says that there is not and cannot be a clause in the contract that the turbines acquired by Russia cannot be used in a particular region.

The turbine-fired power plants, now owned by Russian companies, will begin operation in 2018.
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  1. +7
    30 October 2017 12: 25
    About our "most honest and fair court in the world" it will not hurt your foreheads. However, that was what was intended.
    1. +4
      30 October 2017 12: 29
      Quote: 210ox
      However, that was what was intended.

      Americans ..... laughing the general electrician will climb into the vacant seat
      1. +3
        30 October 2017 12: 35
        No, our fuss was there .. I think that the Germans were in the know. They didn’t stop cooperating. And there were even statements about the possibility of supplying equipment to our TPPs.
        Quote: himRa
        Quote: 210ox
        However, that was what was intended.

        Americans ..... laughing the general electrician will climb into the vacant seat
        1. +2
          30 October 2017 13: 15
          Quote: 210ox
          No, our fuss was here .. I think that the Germans were in the know.

          And the wolves are full and the sheep are safe drinks
        2. 0
          30 October 2017 23: 56
          "Of course he will eat, but who will give him?" (with)
          Siemens lost all recent tenders for the supply of equipment to our north. These are the consequences of the scandal. Americans happily rub their wallets.
      2. +6
        30 October 2017 12: 36
        Quote: himRa
        Quote: 210ox
        However, that was what was intended.

        Americans ..... laughing the general electrician will climb into the vacant seat

        Yes, and the Germans themselves seem to be starting a judicial bagpipes, well, and the mattresses naturally come in handy. hi
      3. +1
        30 October 2017 12: 57
        GE's advertisement is dumbfounded in the tape. Usually, banners come from the results of search queries on the tape, and GE РГЗ will appear 3-5 months per month, I have never looked for it in Yandex and Google
        1. +2
          30 October 2017 13: 10
          VPN-blocker to help you a, tricks, Google is difficult to calculate winked
      4. +1
        30 October 2017 13: 14
        By the way, but the company may get burnt out on this. I think that the following sanctions will affect the energy sector .. Yes, thank God. But if it comes to medicine, then we will suffer, the hospitals are full of equipment from this Amerz company ..
        Quote: himRa
        Quote: 210ox
        However, that was what was intended.

        Americans ..... laughing the general electrician will climb into the vacant seat
    2. +4
      30 October 2017 13: 05
      Quote: 210ox
      About our "most honest and fair court in the world" it will not hurt your foreheads. However, that was what was intended.

      Oh ... it remains to clarify who? Who was it conceived? “Siemens” are so “impeccable”, such “unfortunate” .... But they can count money in the distance, they can “watch”, and there are clearly vague prospects in the US market, although they are more profitable now, but they are understandable on our market ... without any “fog”, they’ll leave, we will replace the same Hitachi, so these “jump out” of the “cowards” if only the Germans “move” on our market
      1. +7
        31 October 2017 06: 26
        Quote: svp67
        they’ll leave, we’ll replace Hitachi with these same ones, then they’ll jump out of the “cowards” just to “move” the Germans in our market

        In-in-in ... "warm" ...
        Therefore, it was precisely Siemens that did not arise on the topic of these turbines. So - for the excuse - they designated activity, and fell silent.
        Because the market is narrow, and there are plenty of competitors.
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  3. +4
    30 October 2017 12: 28
    will start work in 2018.

    But Ukrainian stubborn so hoped for the opposite. Once again zrada zradnaya. But Kovtun on ... proceeded telling how the turbines would have to be exported, and Russia would also pay for it.
    1. +5
      30 October 2017 12: 33
      hi
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But Kovtun on ... proceeded telling how the turbines would have to be exported and Russia would also pay for it.

      I have long perceived the words of this bald hochmach as reprisals from the Comedy Club.
  4. +1
    30 October 2017 12: 29
    since the mid-90s, privatization went on the sidelines with Investors, sometimes you have to pay for other people's decisions
    Including your money and image.
    harder to be independent.
  5. +1
    30 October 2017 12: 29
    ... nonsense for pro forma howls, but in reality everything is in "openwork" ... bully
    1. AUL
      +1
      30 October 2017 17: 32
      I think Simmens will not dispute this decision of the court of cassation. He, like, supported the sanctions, but the court so decided ... I do not think that in the production of such products it was not initially determined where it would go - tea, not sausages! So Simmens and sanctions, such as complying, and the benefits are not deprived. Probably on the sidelines agreed on this.
  6. +1
    30 October 2017 12: 30
    At the same time, the German company continues to demand in the court of law that it invalidate the contract under which Russian companies eventually installed gas turbines on the Crimean peninsula.


    Yours, what’s the matter, mongrel pawn, where we want to put there, a sovereign state, unlike Germany, that’s the court, I think.
  7. +5
    30 October 2017 12: 33
    as they used to say in Sparta, it seems: "come and dismantle!"
  8. +1
    30 October 2017 12: 35
    that is not, this pindo @ syatina stirs up water, they want to take a vacant place after siemens. Only business, nothing personal.
  9. 0
    30 October 2017 12: 49
    Even if it assumes that the court will oblige the turbines to be dismantled ... Does Siemens really believe that this will be done? Are they sick all over the head? Siemens turned on the reverse only because of the fear that the Americans would deal with them the same way as with Deutsche Bank, and in a crisis, for Siemens it would be generally sad.
  10. +5
    30 October 2017 12: 55
    Q.E.D. There is nothing to climb into a foreign country with its own rules.
  11. 0
    30 October 2017 12: 55
    Expected Solution. It is foolish to hope that there will be another. Then they cut it off and cut it off.
  12. +1
    30 October 2017 13: 05
    In the contract of sale (that is, when transferring ABSOLUTE law), the condition for geography looks rather strange. It looks like some kind of terry totalitarianism. laughing With what the EU and congratulations!
  13. +1
    30 October 2017 13: 48
    Destruction and shame, a country buys turbines abroad.

    There are four steps that separate a third world country from a self-sufficient, strong power:
    1 Agricultural Revolution
    2 Industrial Revolution
    3 Electronics
    4 High technology

    We live in the first stage.
    1. +1
      30 October 2017 15: 36
      Well, something you have bent, no country in the world can produce everything, the United States buys rd-180 from us and that is a backward country, the USSR bought a lot of things, well, I agree on one thing, we must strive to produce it ourselves
      1. 0
        30 October 2017 19: 30
        Quote: Warrior-80
        Well, something you have bent, no country in the world can produce everything,

        Are we Latvia? Georgia
        China, Russia, USA, India have the opportunity to be independent.
        Only need an ambitious leader.

        The United States buys rd-180 from us and that a backward country,

        Well, Trump said he would return production from abroad.
        And they have an analogue of RD.
        1. +3
          30 October 2017 20: 07
          Well, they wrote that such turbines are extremely rare! What are you. Do you want to build a plant, produce 5, maximum 10 turbines for yourself and ... What? Destroy the plant, because no one will need it? There are things that are more profitable to buy than to do for yourself, these turbines from this category.
          1. 0
            31 October 2017 01: 45
            Quote: sabakina
            Well, they wrote that such turbines are extremely rare! What are you. Do you want to build a plant, produce 5, maximum 10 turbines for yourself and ... What? Destroy the plant, because no one will need it? There are things that are more profitable to buy than to do for yourself, these turbines from this category.

            If the plant is unified, the conveyor will not be covered with dust.
  14. 0
    30 October 2017 14: 46
    And where was the court?
    He would have tried to make a different decision, but wouldn’t have gone at all, Siemens would have bought, and paid the money.
    In general, where are these products manufactured, not at privatized enterprises near St. Petersburg in Russia?
  15. +1
    30 October 2017 14: 48
    Siemens has a good system of work in Russia - in order not to get people in Europe, they even went to court - with the words "They deceived us", in fact - "Money doesn’t smell" or "Nothing personal, only business"
  16. 0
    30 October 2017 15: 11
    It turns out I bought the product and you can’t use it and you need to ask permission to use it. Some kind of crap.
    1. AUL
      0
      30 October 2017 17: 38
      International law is a bit more complicated than traffic rules. So do not be surprised.
  17. 0
    31 October 2017 03: 28
    Quote: 210ox
    About our "most honest and fair court in the world" it will not hurt your foreheads. However, that was what was intended.

    Another thing is surprising. How did we live without Siemens turbines before? Did you do it yourself? If so, at what point did you lose the manufacturing secret?

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