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Son of Khrushchev: Neither the USSR nor today's Russia can compare in strength with the United States

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The press and the blogosphere are actively discussing the statement of the son of Nikita Khrushchev Sergey, which is given by the American edition Las vegas sun. Sergei Khrushchev gave a lecture to several hundred listeners at the National Museum of Atomic Testing in Las Vegas and during the lecture raised the issue of the power of the countries of the so-called nuclear club.


S. Khrushchev, more than 20 years living in the United States, touched on the issue stories Soviet-American (Russian-American) relations and the role of their father in them. According to the doctor of technical sciences, who is S. Khrushchev, "neither the USSR nor modern Russia can compare closely with the United States of America".

Son of Khrushchev: Neither the USSR nor today's Russia can compare in strength with the United States


At the same time, Khrushchev Jr. remarked that the USSR had previously been forced to build up its nuclear potential, since the United States behaved as “the world's chief gendarme”. According to the son of the former head of state, "The USSR then decided not to show its fear and not to show weakness."

S. Khrushchev:
The Soviet response then was the rejection of the proposal for a joint American-Soviet expedition to the moon. Also here can be attributed Caribbean crisis.


At the same time, Khrushchev announced that today could be the reason for the improvement of relations between Moscow and Washington. According to the son of Nikita Khrushchev, none of the countries can claim the right of "the chief world gendarme, and each of the countries must take into account the interests of each other."

At the end of the lecture, Khrushchev announced that he had doubts about how actively democracy is being defended in modern Russia.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 06: 01 New
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    Son of Khrushchev: Neither the USSR nor today's Russia can compare in strength with the United States
    Reptiloid and American Reptile.
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2017 06: 23 New
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Son of Khrushchev: Neither the USSR nor today's Russia can compare in strength with the United States

      In fact, he is right. That the USSR, not to mention modern Russia, was and is economically weaker than the United States, but both the USSR and present-day Russia were and are the ONLY powers that are guaranteed to inflict such damage on the United States, after which they can be forgotten. And this is exactly the person who created the nuclear missile shield of the USSR would have to remember. So, all of his words I perceive the same as another "woof" in the direction of their homeland, and the "licking" of the present Fatherland.
      1. maxim947
        maxim947 30 October 2017 06: 47 New
        +4
        What is he doing there ?!
        1. svp67
          svp67 30 October 2017 06: 56 New
          +6
          Quote: maxim947
          What is he doing there ?!

          Lives and lives.
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 30 October 2017 06: 57 New
            33
            What can a corncob miscarriage judge? what
            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 30 October 2017 07: 32 New
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              This grandfather only confirmed that democracy leads to the power of envious ub.lyudkov. His dad is the same bastard as the humpbacked one. True, at that moment there was still a strong grip on the people whom Vissarionych brought up, and this hmyr was removed before he ruined the country.
              To listen to this fart is not to respect yourself. VO constantly descends into the gutter in search of such feces.
              Quote: svp67
              And this is exactly the person who created the nuclear missile shield of the USSR would have to remember.

              Tell in what life did the son of the Khrushchev create the USSR nuclear missile shield?
              1. svp67
                svp67 30 October 2017 08: 06 New
                +9
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Tell in what life did the son of the Khrushchev create the USSR nuclear missile shield?

                When he worked in the Chalome Design Bureau and there he became the Laureate of the Lenin Prize. Doctor of Technical Sciences. By a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of April 28, 1963, he was awarded the title of Hero of Socialist Labor. Laureate of the Lenin Prize, Prize of the Council of Ministers of the USSR. Member of several international academies.
                1. Vladimir16
                  Vladimir16 30 October 2017 08: 09 New
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                  He worked for Chalome. But not the other way around. Do you feel the difference? He, a kindly son, could work wherever the soul wished. Do you understand?
                  Judging by affairs is necessary. Khrushchev took over the country with nuclear weapons. He did not create, much less sonny. The result of his "activity" we know - the vile groaning of predecessors and Khrushchev on a white horse.
                  Fighting monuments. A familiar action, don’t you? Miraculously, the country remained within its borders after it. Borders, by the way, Stalin expanded.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 30 October 2017 08: 13 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Vladimir16
                    He worked for Chalome. But not the other way around. Do you feel the difference? He, a kindly son, could work wherever the soul wished. Do you understand?

                    He could, but he was with Chalomey, and this was the most “breakthrough” design bureau in the field of rocket and space during the times of the USSR. What they created then was cooler than the royal developments, and so far that hurt can still greatly contribute to our breakthrough into space, both civilian and military
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 30 October 2017 09: 26 New
                      +5
                      Quote: svp67
                      What they created then was cooler than royal designs

                      Korolev did not work for the defense industry. his "horse is space. Chalomei yes, defense and excellent rockets. but for space he did nothing
                2. LSA57
                  LSA57 30 October 2017 09: 24 New
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                  Quote: svp67
                  When he worked at the Chalome Design Bureau

                  so Chalomei took him to his design bureau because he was the son of Himself ... therefore, Chalomei was also entrusted with making the Rus rocket. three starts and all unsuccessful. as Sasha said, the third Russian miracle.
                  1 miracle - Tsar Cannon who did not call
                  2 miracle - King bell who never rang
                  3 miracle - the rocket "Rus" which never took off
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 30 October 2017 09: 31 New
                    +3
                    Yeah ... And in general, the “Miracle Rocket” is Korolev’s “N-1” and the same is not successful .... And in general, in recent years, we are not very lucky in rocket science.
                  2. avt
                    avt 30 October 2017 09: 54 New
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                    Quote: svp67
                    Chalomey, and this was the most “breakthrough” design bureau in the field of rocket and space during the Soviet era.

                    Quote: LSA57
                    Chalome, yes, defense and superior missiles.

                    wassat And who is Chalomey ?? Which KB, and even
                    Quote: svp67
                    in the field of space rocket.

                    he ,, broke through "? recourse
                    Quote: LSA57
                    Chalome, yes, defense and superior missiles. but for space he did nothing

                    bully Chalomey did nothing for space. bully And here on KB where Khrushch stuck his now American ..... Well, learn the materiel.
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 30 October 2017 11: 33 New
                      +3
                      Quote: avt
                      Chalomey did nothing for space

                      You don’t tell me so twice .... reconnaissance and combat "Diamonds", oh Soviet peace scientific stations "Salyut-2, 3, 5" Launch vehicle "Proton", TKS - which the USSR used in 50% of the capabilities on the basis of which our blocks of Mir station - NO it's not enough
                      1. avt
                        avt 30 October 2017 19: 23 New
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                        Quote: svp67
                        You don’t tell me so twice .... reconnaissance and combat "Diamonds", oh Soviet peace scientific stations "Salyut-2, 3, 5" Launch vehicle "Proton", TKS - which the USSR used in 50% of the capabilities on the basis of which our blocks of Mir station - NO it's not enough

                        The question is the same - And then, what? wassat Well, who is he this CHALOMEY? bully
                3. HUMANOID
                  HUMANOID 30 October 2017 10: 15 New
                  +2
                  This is when dad was in power? Oh well
                4. Mavrikiy
                  Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 18: 36 New
                  +1
                  svp67 Today, 08: 06
                  When he worked in the Chalome Design Bureau and there he became the Laureate of the Lenin Prize. Doctor of Technical Sciences. By a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of April 28, 1963, he was awarded the title of Hero of Socialist Labor. Laureate of the Lenin Prize, Prize of the Council of Ministers of the USSR. Member of several international academies.
                  Sorry, could not pass by, returned.
                  Here you write with aplomb, DTN, Hero ST, Lenin Prizes, etc. .... And where would they go? I want to live, otherwise dad is a valantarist. Fucks shoe and kraken.
                  DAD on the throne, and the personality cult of this Trotskyist and I still remember on TV. Arguments Your merits to the son are ridiculous.
                  And the speech in the United States reads the correct, falling asleep (in the sense of sleep). The most interesting thing later, in communication, about the pope, about Stalin, about the Russians. For this and the money. About counseling work will be invited .....
                5. Mikhail Zubkov
                  Mikhail Zubkov 31 October 2017 06: 25 New
                  0
                  At that time, “according to the totality of the work taken into service” they gave doctors - dad gave his son, in fact, all ranks, stars and prizes, and rocket men money and a way, while artillerymen and pilots were reduced as if by ballast. A third of the USSR Armed Forces has reduced, many without a pension at all! And you didn’t ask this bastard for that! For a lot of things they didn’t ask Daddy, but the son still pulled overseas out of fear. He stayed there on feeding.
              2. Kent0001
                Kent0001 30 October 2017 13: 14 New
                0
                In fact, the collapse of the union just from the cartilage of the eldest and began.
            2. The black
              The black 30 October 2017 08: 03 New
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              A very interesting position in a person is the son of Nikita Khrushchev. Something it reminds me very much ... - Ah, yes - the son of Lieutenant Schmidt Shuru Balaganov! The same expert was, by the way! smile
              1. Alex_59
                Alex_59 30 October 2017 09: 44 New
                +4
                Quote: Black
                A very interesting position in a person is the son of Nikita Khrushchev

                Normal post. We had our own. The husband of the wife of Yuri Luzhkov.
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 30 October 2017 07: 34 New
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          Same as Stalin’s daughter .. Svetlana Aliluyeva! Pattern. Fathers were at enmity with the United States. The kids went to live with a potential opponent .. Well, very interesting !!!!
          1. Stas Snezhin
            Stas Snezhin 30 October 2017 07: 54 New
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            Yes, sons are different.
            And here, the son of Yuri Nikulin restored the Lugansk circus.
            Maxim Nikulin, son of Yuri Nikulin, restored at his own expense the Lugansk circus destroyed by the Armed Forces
            In May 2015, he visited there, and on September 22.09.2016, XNUMX, the circus opened the season.
            The circus was completely destroyed by APU in 2014.
            Maxim Nikulin visited the ruined LNR State Circus May 30, 2015
            The LNR state circus was badly damaged during the shelling in July-August last year. Roofing, glazing, internal communications - in the building, absolutely everything must be restored. The general director of the circus Dmitry Kasyan conducted a short tour for the Moscow guest, showed him all the damage.
            The interest of Maxim Nikulin in the Lugansk Circus is not accidental - in 1971 his father gave concerts in front of his first builders.
            Lugansk republican circus! He came to life again and hears the laugh of Lugansk children! After the summer shelling of 2014, the broken circus was restored with his own money Maxim Nikulin, the son of the beloved actor Yuri Nikulin. I will not tire of thanking this person. He made an invaluable gift for Luhansk!
          2. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 30 October 2017 07: 56 New
            +7
            Quote: 30 vis
            Fathers were at enmity with the United States. Children left to live with a potential adversary ..

            Stalin was not at enmity. Vissarionitch lifted our country from the dead after the "revolution" and Western aggression in the 17th and rebuilt after the Great Patriotic War - the second wave of Western aggression. Not to hostility to him. Stalin had a son, Vasily, remember? Do you think he left too?
            Khrushchev did much of what mattresses required. He was not just removed. Everyone turned away from him. By whose will began the persecution of Stalin ??? Khrushchev is a puppet.
            And the fact that the children of partocrat majors is a well-known fact.
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 30 October 2017 12: 09 New
              +2
              I respect your opinion about Stalin! But I remain with you! Yes, and with the states of Stalin after the Great Patriotic War, he clashed to death! Or our atomic bomb was in no hurry to do in response to the American demonstration in Nagasaki and Hiroshima ..... they didn’t fight the Americans in Korea, and the dropshot plan didn’t appear among the Americans in 1965 !!! The US Army Chiefs of Staff approved the Dropshot on December 19, 1949, just four years after the victory of the USSR and allied countries over the Third Reich. At the end of World War II, the two largest powers, the United States and the USSR, gradually plunged into another war - the Cold War.
              The point of no return on the transformation of yesterday’s allies into implacable enemies was the famous speech of former British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, delivered at Westminster College in Fulton, Missouri. The ex-head of the British government said that English-speaking countries should have complete military superiority over the USSR.
              Nine days after Churchill’s speech, on March 15, Joseph Stalin, in an interview with Pravda, compared the former prime minister with Adolf Hitler. Thus, the mutual distrust of two ideologically and politically polar blocs grew into an open confrontation, which left an imprint on world history of the second half of the XNUMXth century.
          3. Semurg
            Semurg 30 October 2017 08: 43 New
            +6
            Quote: 30 vis
            Same as Stalin’s daughter .. Svetlana Aliluyeva! Pattern. Fathers were at enmity with the United States. The kids went to live with a potential opponent .. Well, very interesting !!!!

            The children and grandchildren of the leaders of the USSR prefer life in the West, the children and grandchildren of the leaders of Western countries do not go to live with us. This is the main indicator of the standard of living for them and for us. People of our countries who do not have the opportunity to leave to live there can only maintain a long-standing opposition, on the principle they did not live well and there is no need to start.
          4. ariman1
            ariman1 30 October 2017 12: 00 New
            +7
            and they are going now. Daughter at Lavrov - don’t you recall the citizenship of your daughter? By the way, bah, Maria Vossen is not a familiar name? Daughter, you know whom, the Dutchman’s husband and the citizen of the Netherlands herself
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 30 October 2017 12: 13 New
              +1
              I have always been touched by the knowledge of the lads from Berdychiv and Krizhopel about where the children of the leadership of the Russian Federation live .. Straight Krizhopeltsy know everything !!!
              1. ariman1
                ariman1 30 October 2017 12: 32 New
                +4
                so this is not a secret, in general then. By the way, I'm from St. Petersburg. Moreover, unlike you, an incomprehensible passenger, I already have 7 generations of St. Petersburg. so these are your wet dreams that whoever is against Putin is a crest. By the way, the Ukrainians and residents of the Kuban have always been called Ukrainians, so it’s funny when all sorts of Donetsk residents and others call Ukrainians residents of Lviv or Vinnitsa
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 30 October 2017 12: 54 New
                  0
                  You can be a Parisian in the hundredth generation and at the same time be a krizhopelts. Luganchans and Donchans are descendants of the Don Cossacks. Don Cossack has always been a special caste. .
                  Quote: ariman1
                  when all sorts of Donetsk and others call Ukrainians residents of Lviv or Vinnitsa
                  1. ariman1
                    ariman1 30 October 2017 21: 44 New
                    0
                    truth? Are you a Don Cossack? ) By the way, do you want to distribute links about the Cossack units in the Wehrmacht? Germans used Kazakov not for fights, by the way, but for punitive actions mainly in Yugoslavia
                    1. Xnumx vis
                      Xnumx vis 31 October 2017 06: 32 New
                      0
                      I am from the south of St. Petersburg - Sevastopolets in the fourth generation. From a family of sailors. Own fairy tales
                      tell about what my homeland is bad tell krizhopiltsam. They are grateful listeners !!! .
                      1. ariman1
                        ariman1 1 November 2017 21: 23 New
                        0
                        Sevastopol Cossack? St. Petersburg also has kozaki. And even in Kaliningrad they are. Parasitic parasites
                2. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 2 November 2017 06: 51 New
                  0
                  Seven generations say ...
                  Quote: ariman1
                  unlike you, an incomprehensible passenger,
                  That's what I'm looking at Urkagan jargon ... You understand. You are Quintus the essence of society, the elite, the cream of the corresponding layer of the population .....
        3. LSA57
          LSA57 30 October 2017 07: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: maxim947
          What is he doing there ?!

          communism is building
          1. The black
            The black 30 October 2017 07: 49 New
            +1
            And at the same time, the United States for some reason considers the army of the Russian Federation the strongest opponent, while the army is the lousiest one for Ukrogabon laughing
        4. tol100v
          tol100v 31 October 2017 16: 05 New
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          Quote: maxim947
          What is he doing there ?!

          And what do Judas do?
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      3. Stas157
        Stas157 30 October 2017 07: 51 New
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        Quote: svp67
        The USSR, not to mention modern Russia, was and is economically weaker than the United States, but both the USSR and present-day Russia were and are the ONLY powers capable of guaranteed to inflict such damage to the USA, after which they can be forgotten.

        Well done! He took the USSR down, and equated it to Russia. Especially for you, and those who put pluses to you, I remind you that the USSR is a superpower that shared the first or second place with the United States. And if in something inferior, it is not significant. And in some ways it overtook the USA, which cannot be said about Russia! For a superpower like Russia, the economy is lower than South Korea, Canada and Italy, in terms of GDP. But even if we take the GDP at parity (PPP), which equates Mercedes with the cost of the Lada (also a car!), But even there we are below Germany and Japan, next to Brazil.
        So the power of the USSR must be equated with the United States, but not like modern Russia. The nuclear power of Russia, like the military, also entirely consists of Soviet reserves. In space, the USSR was ahead of the rest, but Russia is steadily slipping into third place so far. By the number of launches, for the first time in the history of astronautics, we are already overtaken by China and the United States (which jump on trampolines).
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        2. Grandfather
          Grandfather 30 October 2017 08: 35 New
          +7
          Well, and who, that handsome one, that deleted my video about Stalin? the "heroes" are nameless ... what was there, WERE NOT?
        3. Grandfather
          Grandfather 30 October 2017 09: 06 New
          +3
          For a superpower like Russia, the economy is lower than South Korea, Canada and Italy, in terms of GDP. But even if we take the GDP at parity
          even football in 60s ...
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 30 October 2017 10: 05 New
            +6
            Quote: Dead Day
            even football in 60s ...

            No, in football there is still some kind of progress - the players are all completely dollar millionaires. That is, there are no results, but there is a reward! It would be better if the money went to children's football fields, including hockey! There used to be yard hockey, almost in every yard. And now? Only a form per child costs 60 thousand. What development can we talk about? There is of course a way out, for lack of players, from abroad to invite, and not bring up their own ... What we are doing.
        4. svp67
          svp67 30 October 2017 11: 35 New
          +4
          Quote: Stas157
          Especially for you, and those who put pluses to you, I remind you that the USSR is a superpower that shared the first or second place with the United States.

          Especially for you. For me, the USSR is ALWAYS FIRST. And you yourself there, for yourself, share everything else
      4. three-track
        three-track 30 October 2017 09: 52 New
        +3
        A traitor cannot be RIGHT, it is an axiom. He speaks in order to coexist in this gangster country. He does not say that the presidents there are shot like hares, people like flies, and even in schools. He overlaid himself with shit, like a dung beetle.
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 30 October 2017 13: 20 New
          +2
          I put you a plus, but economically, after the Second World War, the USA is the strongest economic state on the planet. And everyone lives by their established rules. And alas, this is reality.
      5. Cube123
        Cube123 30 October 2017 10: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        So, all of his words I perceive the same as another "woof" in the direction of their homeland, and the "licking" of the present Fatherland.

        Be lenient towards an old sick person. Do not forget that if he decides to "woof" in the direction of the present Fatherland, he will simply be left without means of subsistence and he will die in poverty. Just do not pay attention to the words "former". All of them simply "fulfill" the right to live in the new Fatherland. They have to be "holier than the pope", otherwise there is no way to survive. And do not forget that when accepting US citizenship they have to take an oath with the complete abandonment of their former homeland and the obligation with arms in their hands to protect the United States. And this legally confirmed BREEDING.
        1. svp67
          svp67 30 October 2017 11: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: Cube123
          Do not forget that if he decides to "woof" in the direction of the present Fatherland

          No, that one is not a "woof", but the most natural licking ...
      6. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 10: 49 New
        +1
        "licking" of the current Fatherland.
        I do not agree. Fatherland is one.
        A reptiloid does not speak of economics, but speaks of power. These are completely different concepts.
        An army of soldiers who do not know how and do not want to die for the Fatherland is not an army but a rabble in tanks and planes. And what power is there?
        Our VKS for every ISIS in the desert chasing. ISIS - army. Well, the United States will buy 3 more of these and everyone will win? No. His own, a stranger only for the time being.
        1. svp67
          svp67 30 October 2017 11: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          I do not agree. Fatherland is one.

          Alas, I do not agree.
          Take me My Motherland is Ukraine, but always, I considered Russia as my Fatherland. And never when did not refuse it
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 16: 08 New
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            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            I do not agree. Fatherland is one.

            Alas, I do not agree.
            Take me My Motherland is Ukraine, but always, I considered Russia as my Fatherland. And never when did not refuse it

            It's a deal then. Your homeland is the USSR. Ukraine is a small homeland. But the Fatherland all have one.
      7. Skif83
        Skif83 30 October 2017 12: 23 New
        +3
        As for "economically weaker ..." - it depends on who and how considers the same GDP.
        The power of the United States is greatly exaggerated, as much as its inflated dollar.
        And about the son of the Khrushchev - the same as dad.

        It would be worth it to hammer both this and his descendant in one place ...
      8. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 30 October 2017 17: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        That the USSR, not to mention modern Russia, was and is economically weaker than the USA

        not economically, but financially. these are very different things.
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    3. Vend
      Vend 30 October 2017 08: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Son of Khrushchev: Neither the USSR nor today's Russia can compare in strength with the United States
      Reptiloid and American Reptile.

      And what else to expect from a person living in the United States. Natural attack.
    4. BecmepH
      BecmepH 30 October 2017 10: 45 New
      0
      Reptiloid and American
      under
      tails
    5. ariman1
      ariman1 30 October 2017 12: 03 New
      +3
      But do they compare? especially, the current RF? Do you really think that Russia can compete with the United States? After all, the matter is not only in the number of nuclear weapons, but also in the number of allies, the economy, the mobilization opportunities of the population and industry, and much more ..
  2. 210ox
    210ox 30 October 2017 06: 04 New
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    Ish, how did you speak! .. But didn’t your dad screw up so you couldn’t equal and surpass? Whose cow would be mumbled ..
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 30 October 2017 06: 50 New
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      Quote: 210ox
      But didn’t your dad screw up so you couldn’t equal and surpass? Whose cow would mumble ..

      for a couple with his father they doused sash with mud as they could. but as soon as his father was seized by the anus and deprived of power, in an instant the libel under the brand of his memories sent for a puddle. at one time for less people signed the execution lists. that’s the enemy of the people. and the son built, built, built and ran away from the construction site to those against whom he built. What does he know about today's Russia ??? Yes, he did not live in it
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 30 October 2017 07: 35 New
      +8
      Quote: 210ox
      210quq Today, 06:04 New
      Ish, how did you speak! .. But didn’t your dad screw up so you couldn’t equal and surpass? Whose cow would be mumbled ..

      There is no dispute, Nikita Sergeyevich screwed up from the heart. But in fairness, after all, it was with him that large-scale housing construction and relocation from communal apartments and barracks began. Under Khrushchev, civil aviation appeared for everyone, and not for the select few. Under him, space exploration began. The economy grew by 10-15% per year. The Americans began to bring to life near our borders (forced to withdraw ballistic nuclear missiles from Turkey and Italy).
      In general, not everything is so simple.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 30 October 2017 12: 13 New
        +4
        "There is no doubt, Nikita Sergeyevich screwed up from the heart" ////

        Khrushchev, when he had already been removed, gave the curious
        Interview with Western reporters.
        (approximately): "When I was out of work, I started listening to the BBC.
        Oh, if earlier! How many stupid things I could avoid!
        When no one criticizes you, but everyone assents like dolls, you’re doing nonsense ... "
        In general, the man was self-critical, without megalomania.
  3. kaplei
    kaplei 30 October 2017 06: 05 New
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    He does not cause anything but disgust. It's easier to say scum.
  4. milling machine
    milling machine 30 October 2017 06: 05 New
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    The most interesting thing is that almost all the children of the general secretaries and senior leadership of the USSR live in America and Europe. Strange, isn't it?
    1. 210ox
      210ox 30 October 2017 06: 10 New
      +6
      Where have you betrayed your homeland?
      Quote: frezer
      The most interesting thing is that almost all the children of the general secretaries and senior leadership of the USSR live in America and Europe. Strange, isn't it?
    2. MadCat
      MadCat 30 October 2017 06: 11 New
      +5
      so there’s no choice, or they’ll go eat off with the giblets, or go on living freely without refusing anything to myself, I’m not talking about the fact that they stole, no, just the enemies would have fussed ...
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 30 October 2017 06: 52 New
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      Quote: frezer
      The most interesting thing is that almost all the children of the general secretaries and senior leadership of the USSR live in America and Europe.

      it was they who called us to build communism, although they themselves preferred capitalism. more precisely, all its blessings
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 30 October 2017 09: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: LSA57
        they themselves preferred capitalism. more precisely, all its blessings

        That's for sure. After the 91st, we are constantly told in both ears about the “benefits” of capitalism, but they don’t mention a word about its underside in a single word. Although on every political information, even during the late USSR, the theses about the parasitic nature and decay of capitalism were affirmed. We laughed then, but in fact, it turned out that all this is true. But when they saw it, it was too late. Although now there are many individuals (even here, in VO), for whom the sun rises in the west, and to mud Russia, and especially the USSR, is a sacred thing for them.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 30 October 2017 15: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: Orionvit
          That's for sure. After the 91st, we are constantly told in both ears about the “benefits” of capitalism, but they don’t mention a word about its underside in a single word. Although on every political information, even during the late USSR, the theses about the parasitic nature and decay of capitalism were affirmed. We laughed then, but in fact, it turned out that all this is true

          Somehow we exchanged views with a woman who left for permanent residence in the USA about American and Soviet propaganda. As a result, they came to a common opinion that the propagandists on both sides did not really know the real life of ordinary people in the United States. And neither of them even suspected of many real difficulties and problems. After all, in order to know this life, it really needs some, fairly long, time to live. For example, what can some Moscow correspondent clearly say about the life of an average resident of some Uryulupinsk or Malaya Dranduletovka?
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 30 October 2017 19: 57 New
            0
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            what can some Moscow correspondent clearly say about the life of an average resident of some Uryulupinsk

            In Soviet times, there was such a thing as a trip to the outback, for material.
    4. askort154
      askort154 30 October 2017 07: 03 New
      +4
      milling cutter ....... The most interesting thing is that almost all the children of the general secretaries and senior leadership of the USSR live in America and Europe. Strange, isn't it?


      Truth ! And not only the leadership of the USSR, but also the leadership of modern Russia.
      Yeltsin's daughter and grandson in London. Gaidar's daughter in Ukraine.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 30 October 2017 07: 12 New
        +4
        Quote: frezer
        The most interesting thing is that almost all the children of the general secretaries and senior leadership of the USSR live in America and Europe. Strange, isn't it?

        no weirder than the current children with the hands of the leaders ...
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 30 October 2017 07: 40 New
        +6
        Quote: askort154
        Gaidar's daughter in Ukraine.

        yeah, europe ....
        1. Lganhi
          Lganhi 30 October 2017 07: 51 New
          +1
          Although Ukraine is close to Africa in terms of living standards, geographically Ukraine is located in Europe.
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 30 October 2017 09: 31 New
            +5
            Quote: Lgankhi
            Nevertheless, geographically Ukraine is located in Europe.

            Yes? why then do they strive so manic in a geyropu? Maidan won’t muddied for this
            1. Lganhi
              Lganhi 30 October 2017 09: 41 New
              +1
              Yes, because stupid. Their squeals are "Ukraine tse Europe." Ukraine and so Europe.
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 30 October 2017 09: 53 New
                +5
                Quote: Lgankhi
                Yes, because stupid.

                here I am about it. and also about the standard of living of urkaini
  5. Wolka
    Wolka 30 October 2017 06: 05 New
    +3
    everything is just a son for a father ...
  6. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 30 October 2017 06: 07 New
    +9
    Something the children of our ex at home do not take root. Not a climate for them here or something. And today's children are not studying in Russia.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 30 October 2017 07: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail M
      Something the children of our ex at home do not take root. Not a climate for them here or something.

      the climate is ... changing for the worse.
      Quote: Mikhail M
      And today's children are not studying in Russia.
      and education, too ... they train performers, and the "owners" over the "hill" learn how to build "performers".
  7. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 30 October 2017 06: 09 New
    +5
    Khrushchev’s son, currently living in the USA. am

    Like Stalin’s granddaughter, as well as the reptiloid of Russian foreign affairs Kozyrev

    It’s good that the father is not responsible for his son! am
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 30 October 2017 07: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: Gormengast
      Like Stalin’s granddaughter, as well as the reptiloid of Russian foreign affairs Kozyrev

      go on ... it's interesting! when do you stop? do not bother?
      1. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 30 October 2017 07: 32 New
        +2
        If we are talking about the puberty of the current leaders, then these sit quietly; don’t yell about things that they don’t understand. And the fact that these gentlemen have entrenched in foreign countries causes only disgust, but objectively we live in bourgeois society, so what is the demand. am

        And some forest looters laughing on the contrary, I would have sent abroad, it is possible in a sealed carriage.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 30 October 2017 07: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: Gormengast
          if we are talking about the puberty of the current leaders, then these sit quietly; don’t yell about things that they don’t understand.

          uh ... isho howl! they just try not to show this to “little people”, so as not to become embittered, look, you will find a lot of interesting things. did one get it on my right?
  8. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 October 2017 06: 09 New
    +8
    At the end of the lecture, Khrushchev announced that he had doubts about how actively democracy is being defended in modern Russia.
    Having lived in America for 20 years, what can he know about democracy in general and modern Russia in particular? Of the capitalist jungle know better? Mowgli.
  9. zzdimk
    zzdimk 30 October 2017 06: 10 New
    +5
    For twenty years, the brains were completely ugurg, plus age insanity
    1. 210ox
      210ox 30 October 2017 06: 20 New
      +3
      Why are they all there by sunset becoming like .. McCain they are all.
      Quote: zzdimk
      For twenty years, the brains were completely ugurg, plus age insanity
  10. Herculesic
    Herculesic 30 October 2017 06: 11 New
    +6
    A typical corrupt libert, licked, what is called, from the heart, more precisely, from rotten, like the owner of a dushka! !!
  11. LeftPers
    LeftPers 30 October 2017 06: 18 New
    +2
    Judas, son of a moron.
  12. Lieutenant colonel
    Lieutenant colonel 30 October 2017 06: 26 New
    +3
    From America, it is more visible what is happening in Russia. The son from the pope not far left. Why is he not working in Russia in his specialty? The lecturer is his mother.
  13. Sergey-svs
    Sergey-svs 30 October 2017 06: 31 New
    +4
    At the end of the lecture, Khrushchev announced that he had doubts about how actively democracy is being defended in modern Russia.

    And all these venal animals, not only are they obsessing everything, they are also trying "from behind a puddle" to tell us how to live! am You see whether he is concerned about the level of dermocracy in Russia! Sufferer x ...! negative
  14. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 30 October 2017 06: 39 New
    +3
    That dad is clinical, that this one is a copy. Let history teach, animal.
  15. nemec55
    nemec55 30 October 2017 06: 43 New
    +2
    Something Nikita gave birth to some kind of Judas, and in the photo it reminds me of Golum
  16. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 30 October 2017 06: 44 New
    +2
    It is better to be the head of a sparrow than the ass of an elephant. Khrushchev's son chose the second ...
  17. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 30 October 2017 06: 46 New
    +3
    But in fact it’s really cool: the daughter of Stalin (Svetlana-has already died of old age), the son of Khrushchev-dumped live quietly in a state that everyone in Russia considers "enemy N1". Similarly, the former type of "president" of the USSR and Russia (Yeltsin died from ..... it is clear from what was processed) dumped "to the west." And why is this so? Who will answer honestly?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 30 October 2017 06: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Marquis Cat
      But in fact it’s really cool: the daughter of Stalin, the son of Khrushchev-dumped live quietly in a state that everyone in Russia considers to be "enemy N1." Similarly, the former type of "president" of the USSR and Russia piled "to the west." And why is this so? Who will answer honestly?

      On bread with caviar they have from memoirs and lectures. Loose and high quality of life.
      1. three-track
        three-track 30 October 2017 09: 44 New
        +1
        It's rot, not kids. It can be seen that the installation was on convergence, and the son is pushing it through. But 45 years showed who is who. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, so Russia is the enemy of Khrushchev’s son, he is the same Vlasov, but modern. He can’t forgive that I’ll kick a kick in the ass. And that dad bloody executioner is silent.
    2. Nix1986
      Nix1986 30 October 2017 07: 04 New
      0
      The answer is simple:
      The farmer grows crops and lives on the farm.
      The subsoil exploiter grows crops on one land, and lives on another.
      Then you’ll guess who is who.
      1. Cat Marquis
        Cat Marquis 30 October 2017 07: 14 New
        +2
        Now the "farmer" is already growing genetically modified crops in one country, and lives in another. Not a reason in another. And these individuals did not "grow" anything in their life. Why did they go to these countries and not to others?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 30 October 2017 07: 23 New
          0
          Quote: Marquis Cat
          Now the "farmer" is already growing genetically modified crops in one country, and lives in another. Not a reason in another. And these individuals did not "grow" anything in their life. Why did they go to these countries and not to others?

          1) There is no stress for good loot.
          2) The quality of life in these countries is the highest.
          3) They are in demand in these countries
          4) a farmer living in another country, all plundered))))
          1. Siberian
            Siberian 30 October 2017 09: 42 New
            +1
            2) The highest quality of life in these countries
            ------
            It can be the highest if there are accounts in their banks with many zeros. I’m not sure that most of the visitors to this site would like to live on an average salary there.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 30 October 2017 12: 18 New
              +2
              “I’m not sure that most of the visitors to this site would like to live on the average salary there” ///

              On average? Who has health, profession and energy - of course, yes - do not even think!
              Average income gives the US a comfortable standard of living.
            2. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 30 October 2017 15: 19 New
              +1
              The average salary per month in the States is 4000 tanks (240-260 thousand rubles)
              The price of apartments is mad (Moscow is resting after the fall of the ruble)
              Products are about the same
              Clothes are cheaper
              In the presence of honey. insurance - the best (one of the best in the world) healthcare
              Cars are cheaper
              Gasoline + - the same
  18. delvin-fil
    delvin-fil 30 October 2017 06: 52 New
    0
    One more? Well, as much as you can already.
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 October 2017 06: 54 New
    +3
    S. Khrushchev, who has lived in the United States for more than 20 years ... Khrushchev announced that he has doubts about how actively democracy is defended in modern Russia.

    American air adversely affects runaways (those who leave, supposedly to work). Does the son of the main Soviet volunteer draw conclusions about democracy? It’s funny.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 30 October 2017 06: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      S. Khrushchev, who has lived in the United States for more than 20 years ... Khrushchev announced that he has doubts about how actively democracy is defended in modern Russia.

      American air adversely affects runaways (those who leave, supposedly to work). Does the son of the main Soviet volunteer draw conclusions about democracy? It’s funny.

      He trades in the name of his father - he is not interested in anyone anywhere.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 30 October 2017 07: 03 New
        0
        Obviously, as long as it is interesting, it gives lectures and makes statements that diverge throughout the media and warm the soul to the west.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 30 October 2017 07: 20 New
          0
          The fact that Khrushchev’s son is interesting
      2. three-track
        three-track 30 October 2017 09: 46 New
        0
        The NCH executioner had a sea of ​​blood on his hands, and his son was simply afraid, and that was mean.
  20. Blue fox
    Blue fox 30 October 2017 06: 58 New
    +2
    From osinki not born oranges.
  21. Popovich
    Popovich 30 October 2017 07: 13 New
    +1
    corn geek!
  22. afrikanez
    afrikanez 30 October 2017 07: 36 New
    +1
    The apple never falls far from the tree. It can be seen that he is still a "corn-cob", if he lives in the states.
  23. Altona
    Altona 30 October 2017 07: 45 New
    +3
    The USSR was not inferior to the United States in the military power, let the corn child not lie. The USA was really afraid of us, and now they are afraid.
  24. Alex_59
    Alex_59 30 October 2017 07: 47 New
    +7
    All right said Comrade Khrushchev (with the possible exception of the last paragraph, here he is not in the subject). The USSR could not compete with NATO either in economics, in population, or in military power. In fact, the most developed countries in the world during the Cold War fell upon the USSR. It is unlikely that anyone would have endured it. It is surprising that the Soviet people generally held on for so long, and even won victories in this confrontation.
  25. Strashila
    Strashila 30 October 2017 08: 01 New
    +3
    We start ... for what kind of gimmicks he received American citizenship ... betrayal ... leaked everything he could or guessed. To be equal to the United States ... but the point is, you must have the necessary minimum ... principle, strive to write above all, for the flawed. And finally ... Russian folk wisdom ... the larger the closet, the greater the crash during a fall.
  26. faiver
    faiver 30 October 2017 08: 06 New
    +1
    and what is he measuring power? if in the amount of green cut paper then kaneshno ... hi
  27. Karen
    Karen 30 October 2017 08: 26 New
    +1
    The old security officer told me 30 years ago.
    "I was still a young lieutenant when, during the days of his arrival in Armenia, I had to stand guard over this (censorship) in a" black "mansion ...
    Somehow, when he didn’t have guests, we decided to cook a barbecue for ourselves in an outfit ... Beautifully the meat was already fried, as Khrushchev stuck his head out of the window and shouted: “Guys, are you making a barbecue?” I I’ll go down to you now ... "I came down ... admiring the colors of meat ... and she says quickly and quickly:" Well, guys, pour vodka while these doctor doctors are not around. " They poured it into a faceted ... he drained it, took a bite ... And he asked me to bring a bottle of vodka and two skewers with barbecue upstairs. "

    ... (then again the obscene old man spoke to the main anti-Stalinist ...)
  28. Colleague
    Colleague 30 October 2017 08: 27 New
    0
    Man Morally Called and Ungrateful
  29. jovanni
    jovanni 30 October 2017 08: 33 New
    0
    At the end of the lecture, Khrushchev announced that he had doubts about how actively democracy is being defended in modern Russia.

    Well, at least pope evon was a big democrat. How many people personally wrote a ticket to the next world. There is something to show off to the son at lectures ...
  30. Disorder
    Disorder 30 October 2017 08: 47 New
    +1
    Well, no wonder. To live well in the states - you have to lick. So he works the language.
  31. 7gor
    7gor 30 October 2017 09: 10 New
    +1
    Just a traitor
  32. three-track
    three-track 30 October 2017 09: 34 New
    +2
    I now have no doubt who N.S. worked for. X -. to England and the USA. The power of the country showed in 1945, the United States was not only powerful, but just zilch. The son of the NSC simply fulfills 30 pieces of silver and nothing more, Judas and Gorbachev and K. We flew out of complete ruin into Space, created an atomic bomb, and this son. When he arrived, they said he was kissing a fellow who came down from the ladder. IT IS BLENDING, MONEY! Scum he.
  33. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 30 October 2017 09: 34 New
    0
    Another adherent? Nothing, we’re used to people, we won’t measure our tails with the USA, all the more so as we don’t toss the bags around.
  34. mlad
    mlad 30 October 2017 09: 36 New
    +2
    Yes, economically the United States is much stronger and spends a lot of money on defense, but all this power is afraid of little North Korea, so how many times should they be more afraid of Russia?
  35. thinker
    thinker 30 October 2017 09: 39 New
    +4
    Sergey Khrushchev gave a lecture to several hundred students

    Allow me to refute, here, from the strength of one hundred fly agaric laughing
  36. Berkut24
    Berkut24 30 October 2017 10: 36 New
    +2
    Well here is a true masked crest. But you don’t need to disappoint him - let him die happy in his ignorance. And bury there.
    1. Karen
      Karen 30 October 2017 16: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Berkut24
      Well here is a true masked crest. But you don’t need to disappoint him - let him die happy in his ignorance. And bury there.

      He can survive us ... he said that he was born again, when he received the Amersky passport.
      1. Berkut24
        Berkut24 30 October 2017 18: 55 New
        0
        Not born, but reborn. An American passport in medicine has never helped anyone.
  37. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 30 October 2017 11: 02 New
    +1
    It is not regrettable to state this, but Khrushchea Jr. is right in the fact that today's Russia cannot be compared with the United States in military capabilities. There was a period when the USSR had militarily parity with the United States, if anyone remembers it then they awarded Brezhnev the Order of Victory. But this did not last long, and this parity was tarnished, and then the drunk of EBN finally completed the rout of Russia's military potential. Now, in reality, Russia is practically defenseless against the West. And if not for the existence of China, it would have been incinerated long ago. Of course, the West would also receive some damage, but not as some describe it, and in celll it would be acceptable if it weren’t for China. I believe that its existence and today's weak Russia owes not so much to the existence of its "nuclear shield" as to the existence of China ...
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 30 October 2017 11: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Former battalion commander
      There was a period when the USSR had militarily parity with the United States

      It is necessary to compare not the USSR vs the USA, but the ATS vs NATO + Japan. That's where the real tears are. ATS never had parity with NATO. And the more economic. NATO consisted of self-sufficient and economically strong countries - Great Britain, Spain, Italy, partly France, with time Germany, the Netherlands, Canada, Turkey. Our allies with them in the same row will never stand. Do not compare Bulgaria with the Netherlands, Romania with Canada. All our Allied Allied Forces Allies are many times weaker than NATO members.
      It is impossible to resist such a coalition.
      1. Former battalion commander
        Former battalion commander 30 October 2017 14: 13 New
        +1
        Dear, in my expression “parity” does not mean economic or human, but the parity of “MUTUALLY GUARANTEED” destruction. After all sorts of treaties to reduce strategic offensive arms undertaken by a tagged moron, this parity has disappeared. Well, the final destruction of defenses has already been committed by EBN if it was amiss even where it is now. Now we have a situation where in a nuclear conflict the parties will suffer tremendous damage BUT NOT DESTRUCTION. After such a war, the parties to the conflict will have the opportunity to exist. And in this case, the countries that did not take part in the showdown (China, etc.) immediately become "great powers." And accordingly, they will already dictate their will to the rest. Here
        this keeps the West from finally sorting out Russia, well, the truth is also the hope that Rosstya will either change her mind and hand over her property to the West, or self-destruct. By the way, the hope of self-destruction is not unfounded ...
  38. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS 30 October 2017 11: 33 New
    +1
    The main thing is that he should be buried in the USA, and not brought to his homeland.
  39. Evdokim E
    Evdokim E 30 October 2017 14: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: 30 vis
    I have always been touched by the knowledge of the lads from Berdychiv and Krizhopel about where the children of the leadership of the Russian Federation live .. Straight Krizhopeltsy know everything !!!


    But I am always “touched” by creatures like the character nicknamed Tabaki, from the cartoon about Mowgli. For them, the main thing is not love for the Fatherland, but love for His Excellency. The main thing is to lick on occasion!
  40. Black_Vatnik
    Black_Vatnik 30 October 2017 15: 14 New
    +1
    What did you want? Grandfather needs to sell himself somehow. They say that they pay well for such lectures in the USA.
  41. ppgt90
    ppgt90 30 October 2017 16: 18 New
    0
    That's right, we abandoned the corn paradise into which N.S. Khrushchev drove the country. As if the son of the "great corn-bearer" is probably still upset that Kuzkin’s mother was shown to Nikita Sergeyevich, and not to the whole Russian people. I still remember all the delights of Khrushchev’s rule. God forbid once again to experience this. In the states, everything is fine with corn, so my son got accustomed there. Anyway, my favorite product.
  42. omega-ivanov2010
    omega-ivanov2010 30 October 2017 16: 39 New
    +1
    The apple never falls far from the tree. March 1953 is the beginning of the collapse of the USSR. The Trotskyists came to power and began, like bark beetles, to destroy everything that was created by Stalin. Food was gone, there was a line for bread, a riot in Novocherkassk. Frightened and decided to fall apart on the brakes. put Brezhnev and he was breaking up the Soviet Union on the brakes, gradually patiently accustomed people to the fact that there were not enough products, etc. but in fact, all products were dumped. There were a lot of cattle and a lot of bread, it was difficult for them then, when they ordered the Akian and they could not do anything, the fear of popular rebellion kept them from quick decisions. ! In the year 991, having prepared the people for the so-called revolution, they destroyed the USSR as if to the wishes of the people themselves. All that they have been doing all these years, all this is against the people. Khazars in power.
  43. Slam
    Slam 30 October 2017 18: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Semurg
    Quote: 30 vis
    Same as Stalin’s daughter .. Svetlana Aliluyeva! Pattern. Fathers were at enmity with the United States. The kids went to live with a potential opponent .. Well, very interesting !!!!

    The children and grandchildren of the leaders of the USSR prefer life in the West, the children and grandchildren of the leaders of Western countries do not go to live with us. This is the main indicator of the standard of living for them and for us. People of our countries who do not have the opportunity to leave to live there can only maintain a long-standing opposition, on the principle they did not live well and there is no need to start.

    It is very difficult to find an adequate comment on this site.
  44. Magorkiy
    Magorkiy 30 October 2017 18: 14 New
    0
    Why should we listen to this corn germ? !! His close ancestor slipped everything that he got from smart people. In general, they have a place in the silo for feed American pigs.
  45. razved
    razved 30 October 2017 20: 45 New
    +1
    Not for nothing that he has been living in the country for more than 20 years ...
  46. Vladimir K.
    Vladimir K. 31 October 2017 04: 19 New
    +1
    The same coward and traitor, like his older brother, whom the Stalinist saboteurs were twice (or thrice) released from captivity (and he was taken prisoner under very strange circumstances), but later by decision of the top of our leadership (Stalin deliberately did not vote to show Nikita, general position) his son was shot as a traitor.
  47. Fkjydjckfrgh
    Fkjydjckfrgh 31 October 2017 14: 38 New
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Son of Khrushchev: Neither the USSR nor today's Russia can compare in strength with the United States

    In fact, he is right. That the USSR, not to mention modern Russia, was and is economically weaker than the United States, but both the USSR and present-day Russia were and are the ONLY powers that are guaranteed to inflict such damage on the United States, after which they can be forgotten. And this is exactly the person who created the nuclear missile shield of the USSR would have to remember. So, all of his words I perceive the same as another "woof" in the direction of their homeland, and the "licking" of the present Fatherland.

    His "homeland" is where it is warmer.
  48. earloop
    earloop 31 October 2017 23: 58 New
    0
    Sergey is all in his “father”, Sergeyich! The same balabol as the father, but with one significant difference: the lad does not have that “Kuzkin’s mother” that Sergeyich had. Yes, and "shoes are tight"! It’s hard to take off, like Sergeyevich happened! Over the long years of his life in America, Sergei finally got fed up.
  49. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 1 November 2017 05: 34 New
    0
    The oath of allegiance to the United States took during naturalization. And blather something humiliating the United States-will be deprived of citizenship, and even in prison ...
  50. Aimpoint
    Aimpoint 2 November 2017 18: 27 New
    0
    In some ways he is right