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General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Russia intends to use the submarine against Ukraine

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Russia intends to use submarines of the Black Sea fleet to capture the territory of Ukraine. Such a statement was made by the AFU lieutenant general, former deputy chief of the AFU General Staff, in an interview for the Apostrof publication.


On the question of whether the Russian armed forces would be used against the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Romanenko answered in the affirmative and expressed the opinion that the Russian army is working off "operations to seize important state facilities for Ukraine." “Or start new diesel boats with cruise missiles - is this a defensive weapon? ”He added.

General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Russia intends to use the submarine against Ukraine


In September, the commander of the Naval Forces of Ukraine (Naval Forces of Ukraine), Vice-Admiral Igor Voronchenko, said that the Ukrainian fleet needed anti-submarine ships to protect against Russian submarines.

In August, the Vice-Admiral of the Ukrainian Navy, Sergey Haiduk, expressed the opinion that due to the lack of state maritime policy, the Ukrainian fleet could disappear soon.

Earlier, the chairman of the Union of Officers of Ukraine, Lupakov, co-owned the old Turkish submarines to fight Russia in the Black Sea.

Ankara writes off old 208 submarines for scrap, and could transfer them to Ukraine
- said Lupakov, while noting that with the help of Turkish submarines, Ukraine would have sunk everything "Russian, that is in the Black Sea".

Since 2015, six submarines of the 636.3 (Improved Kilo according to NATO classification) project have entered the Black Sea Fleet: Novorossiysk, Rostov-on-Don, Old Oskol, Krasnodar, Veliky Novgorod and Kolpino . In September, the Velikiy Novgorod and Kolpino 2017 submarines in the Mediterranean struck from the underwater position with Caliber cruise missiles at IG facilities (the Islamic State group, banned in the Russian Federation) in the Middle East, reports "Lenta.ru"
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Alexey Danichev / RIA News
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  1. Machete
    Machete 28 October 2017 20: 48
    18
    Submarines in the steppes of Ukraine ....
    It was in the movies, remember ...
    1. volodya
      volodya 28 October 2017 20: 52
      +5
      Quote: Machete
      Submarines in the steppes of Ukraine ....
      It was in the movies, remember ...

      Right! Directly from Belarus from the swamps and launch the submarine!
      1. Machete
        Machete 28 October 2017 20: 56
        +1
        Yeah, dad will help. laughing
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 28 October 2017 20: 57
          10
          General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Russia intends to use the submarine against Ukraine
          Come on .... enough of the Buryat diving cavalry ... tongue
          1. cniza
            cniza 28 October 2017 21: 11
            12
            Add another anti-tank ... but in general they brought their brains irrevocably.
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN 28 October 2017 21: 12
              +7
              Quote: cniza
              but in general they brought their brains irrevocably.

              Clinic... request alas, we can’t help them, but Europe has the exact same hu ... Oh trouble ... lol
              1. cniza
                cniza 28 October 2017 21: 14
                +5
                Oh, if only for Europe, they have complete opa ...
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN 28 October 2017 21: 18
                  14
                  Quote: cniza
                  Oh, if only for Europe, they have complete opa ...

                  I hope that this cannot be so constant ... although ...., four years is already too much, there is probably some kind of anomaly ... in my head ...
                  Maybe in a joke ..
                  The company bought a Mercedes plant AvtoVAZ. Reconfigured production, start the conveyor. . . Bam! at the exit of the Lada!
                  Dismantle the equipment, drove the new one from Germany, installed, adjusted, launched. ! ! ! Lada again!
                  Why all the plant personnel are dismissed, workers from Germany are brought in, they are established, checked, and launched. ! At the exit again - Lada!
                  There is a hill near the plant; ch. engineer and director of the plant (both with the prefix Ex .. Look at all this. Engineer to the director:
                  - And I told you - the place is damned! ! ! And then all the "hands from the ass, hands from the ass"
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 28 October 2017 22: 08
                    10
                    Quote: NIKNN
                    - And I told you - the place is damned! ! ! And then all the "hands from the ass, hands from the ass"

                    in the light of what is happening, it’s time to tie up with such stereotypes !!! negative negative negative laughing laughing
                    1. Thrall
                      Thrall 29 October 2017 05: 23
                      +2
                      Ha, in the Donbass submarine is in every unit smile
                  2. 210ox
                    210ox 29 October 2017 08: 03
                    +2
                    No place is damned. And damned ideas are in the brain .. I'm not talking about "Lada" but about those in the neighborhood ..
                    Quote: NIKNN
                    Quote: cniza
                    Oh, if only for Europe, they have complete opa ...

                    I hope that this cannot be so constant ... although ...., four years is already too much, there is probably some kind of anomaly ... in my head ...
                    Maybe in a joke ..
                    The company bought a Mercedes plant AvtoVAZ. Reconfigured production, start the conveyor. . . Bam! at the exit of the Lada!
                    Dismantle the equipment, drove the new one from Germany, installed, adjusted, launched. ! ! ! Lada again!
                    Why all the plant personnel are dismissed, workers from Germany are brought in, they are established, checked, and launched. ! At the exit again - Lada!
                    There is a hill near the plant; ch. engineer and director of the plant (both with the prefix Ex .. Look at all this. Engineer to the director:
                    - And I told you - the place is damned! ! ! And then all the "hands from the ass, hands from the ass"
                2. hrych
                  hrych 28 October 2017 21: 27
                  +4
                  Quote: cniza
                  Oh, if only for Europe, they have complete opa ...

                  We’ve survived, they are already begging the Bashibuzuk wassat
                  1. 79807420129
                    79807420129 28 October 2017 21: 39
                    37
                    Not all ukroidiot ATO kills yes
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 28 October 2017 21: 44
                      +6
                      It is necessary to write Kuchma lying on the threshold ... wassat
                  2. 79807420129
                    79807420129 28 October 2017 22: 00
                    19
                    Quote: hrych
                    We’ve survived, they are already begging the Bashibuzuk

                    Yes, who they just do not Christendom laughing
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 28 October 2017 22: 30
                      +9
                      Quote: 79807420129
                      Yes, who they just do not Christendom

                  3. Pirogov
                    Pirogov 28 October 2017 22: 01
                    +8
                    Quote: hrych
                    We survived, wassat was already begging for Bashibuzuk

                    The first time I’m ashamed, but once I reach out and all the beggar took place. You will notice a large half of Ukrainian politicians constantly, that they ask without hesitation, that they are both oppressed and indignant because it is that they have given little recently.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 28 October 2017 22: 14
                      +7
                      Quote: Pirogov
                      they are both oppressed and indignant, so this is the fact that they have given little recently.
                      Petitioner comes across all the muzzles lately

          2. LSA57
            LSA57 28 October 2017 22: 26
            13
            Quote: NIKNN
            Come on .... enough of the Buryat diving cavalry ...

            such?
            1. d ^ Amir
              d ^ Amir 29 October 2017 09: 46
              +5
              yes .. but you have a civilian option in the picture !!!! why mislead !!! we know for sure there is a set of 3 nuclear warheads coming and the armata in tow !!!!!!
      2. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 28 October 2017 21: 04
        17
        Quote: volodya
        Directly from Belarus from the swamps and launch the submarine!

        We have almost no swamps. what Normal such that even horror was ... Land reclamation request Etc.
        When Ukrainians dig a sea for us, then we can gasp, if only the 6th Fleet doesn’t interfere repeat
        1. The black
          The black 28 October 2017 21: 16
          12
          Quote: Rurikovich
          We have almost no swamps. Normal such that even horror was ... Land reclamation ...
          When Ukrainians dig us out of the sea ...,

          Don’t lie ..... since the psaki said there is a sea in Belarus, then there IS .. and the point smile
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 28 October 2017 21: 21
            12
            Quote: Black
            times psaki said

            So she said about the Rostov mountains wink
            So, we must bow to the most ancient - they will dig a sea for us and at the same time with the selected material you pour mountains ... what
            wink hi
          2. volodya
            volodya 28 October 2017 21: 22
            +8
            Quote: Black
            Don’t lie ..... since the psaki said there is a sea in Belarus, then there IS .. and the point

            Moreover, there are many of our submarines left after the exercises!
          3. LSA57
            LSA57 28 October 2017 22: 31
            +9
            Quote: Black
            since psaki said there is a sea in Belarus, then IS

            and near Rostov mountains
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 28 October 2017 21: 22
          +9
          It won't work out. Air defense systems in the Rostov Mountains will intercept everything. laughing
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 29 October 2017 01: 15
            +9
            Lesha, welcome hi drinks
            Air defense systems in the Rostov Mountains intercept everything

            It would be necessary to put the PLO on duty, otherwise the submarines walk on the steppes. lol
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 29 October 2017 23: 33
              +5
              Sergey, welcome! So who knows what evil Russians have come up with? The reaction of ordinary Americans, taxpayers, with the theme of our intervention is surprising. I would in their place ask a number of special purpose ministries and departments - guys, you talk about the fact that the American economy, army and special services are the coolest in the world, you are cutting hundreds of billions of dollars, and what ??? And the “unfortunate, poor, with the Russian economy torn to shreds" interfere in the elections and put “their” president. And further on V.S. Vysotsky "Where is the money, Zin?"
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 30 October 2017 00: 54
                +9
                Lesha, so you. But the Americans have forgotten how to think on their own, they are what they say the box - and then consider the truth. I’ve been talking to one of them for a long time, just like that. He hinted to him that he was a CIA agent, since he did not say anything about himself and he immediately disappeared. True, I added that this is a joke. Here you go. laughing
        3. d ^ Amir
          d ^ Amir 29 October 2017 09: 40
          +4
          The 6th fleet will not reach you ... environmentalists will not let them demolish all the oyster, mussel and fish farms from which Belarus supplies Russia !!!! and even if they don’t listen to ecologists, they still won’t pass .... get confused in cages and nets ....
        4. Sorokin
          Sorokin 29 October 2017 09: 44
          0
          OT do not lie, but ponds at every state farm, where you breed crucian carp, a step to swamps
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 29 October 2017 09: 53
            +3
            Quote: Sorokin
            OT do not lie, but ponds at every state farm, where you breed crucian carp, a step to swamps

            Gone are the days when ponds were on every state farm yes There are two fish farms in my area. Of these two, one was declared bankrupt last year, and, in my opinion, people were dismissed there. From neighboring fish farms, as far as I know, mainly carps and carp are sold. toasts and other freshwater animals, but not mussels with oysters wink
            It is time.
            Two. This year, our customs officers covered up a network of smugglers who, according to various schemes, deliver smuggled goods to Russia through us. The moral is that 90% of these comrades were ..... RUSSIANS! fellow And blame us request Morality. If you really want to block smuggling channels - let's work together so as not to blame Belarusian mussels and oysters later yes
        5. LeonidL
          LeonidL 29 October 2017 18: 30
          +2
          Is there still a naval base in Pinsk? There used to be a Polish flotilla first and then a Soviet one. Monitors went from Kiev to Brest. True, they had a draft meter with a cap. Maybe Belarus has secretly acquired submarines now? Here is Kukuev and fever.
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 29 October 2017 18: 40
            +1
            Quote: LeonidL
            Pinsk still has a naval base

            Unlikely No. The scale of the country is not the same as the times. Maybe the base point of which border guards is available request The rivers are shallowed yes You can’t even see the dredger. And in the dry years of Pripyat (!) In the middle course, you can go through the chest, if you know where smile

            all that remains of the Pinsk Flotilla hi
            1. LeonidL
              LeonidL 29 October 2017 18: 44
              +2
              Thank! I wrote rather with irony, but still, a great photo of BC. Prada is already a much later modification. In Pinsk, at the beginning of the war, others went. About Pinsk flotilla, as well as about the Dnieper and Danube, Rezun has spoken a lot in his opuses. I happened to write and refute his nonsense.
              1. Rurikovich
                Rurikovich 29 October 2017 18: 46
                +1
                Quote: LeonidL
                In Pinsk, at the beginning of the war, others went

                I know yes The backbone was made up of monitors of Polish construction hi
                1. LeonidL
                  LeonidL 29 October 2017 18: 47
                  +2
                  Not only monitors, but also armored boats, gunboats, even minzag ..
      3. papas-57
        papas-57 28 October 2017 22: 08
        +2
        '' Directly from Belarus from the swamps and launch the submarines. '' From what swamps, according to the Americans, there is a sea.
      4. LSA57
        LSA57 28 October 2017 22: 33
        13
        Quote: volodya
        Right! Directly from Belarus from the swamps and launch the submarine!

        they are already there
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 29 October 2017 01: 00
          10
          Namesake, welcome hi So I looked at the picture and it’s a direct splinter in ... um ... my mind is seated.

          Something very familiar belay
        2. d ^ Amir
          d ^ Amir 29 October 2017 09: 49
          +4
          my have cried !!!!!!!! Now I understand dear that until the 44s he lived not in vain ...
      5. poquello
        poquello 28 October 2017 22: 36
        +2
        Quote: volodya
        Quote: Machete
        Submarines in the steppes of Ukraine ....
        It was in the movies, remember ...

        Right! Directly from Belarus from the swamps and launch the submarine!

        they don’t ask, they need land anti-submarine ships with drill bombs
      6. Partyzan
        Partyzan 29 October 2017 09: 26
        +5
        Quote: volodya
        Right! Directly from Belarus from the swamps and launch the submarine!

        do not touch our sea am not one alien ship will not sail there laughing
      7. Slovak
        Slovak 29 October 2017 16: 14
        0
        Poroshenkovskme generals do not yet know how many Russian submarines in the Belorussian Sea! And there are more than mosquitoes!
    2. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 28 October 2017 20: 54
      +4
      It is interesting that they use it there?)))
      1. The black
        The black 28 October 2017 20: 58
        +5
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        It is interesting that they use it there?)))

        Oooh ... the elite shmurdyak of the woman of the Ganka ..... the truth is not for everyone he is for the future .... 10 thousand cyborgs after him did not wake up ... wassat (He wrote them down to non-combat ones, I don’t have to pay thousands a day, and there are all kinds of benefits there. smile )
      2. Barbulator
        Barbulator 28 October 2017 21: 09
        +3
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        It is interesting that they use it there?)))

        - Briand! they said with fervor. - This is the head! He with his pan-Europe project ... It has long been, but nothing has changed for those who have bought it. By the way, if it’s serious, then the KChF submarines will be put on wheels, and then they will be on the steppes of Ukraine ...
      3. LSA57
        LSA57 28 October 2017 22: 35
        +9
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        It is interesting that they use it there?)))

        you are welcome.
      4. Orionvit
        Orionvit 29 October 2017 08: 14
        0
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        It is interesting that they use it there?

        What they consume there is certainly no doubt. But by and large, they are right. The fleet is simply obliged to conduct combat exercises and work out all possible options, including
        “Operations to seize important state facilities for Ukraine”
        In the event of hostilities, one of the direct duties of the fleet is to support the ground forces. On the other hand, these "prominent" Ukrainian strategists did not say a word that Ukraine was begging and provoking Russia in every possible way to an armed conflict. And in the end, yes, he still begs.
    3. The black
      The black 28 October 2017 20: 54
      +3
      Hey. Admiral, urgently on his knees in front of the US ambassador and ask that the 6th American fleet be transferred to the Belarusian Sea laughing
    4. win
      win 28 October 2017 20: 57
      +9
      - Have you really seen submarines in the steppes of Ukraine?
      - Yes, I was even treated so as not to see them again !!! belay sad
    5. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 28 October 2017 21: 18
      +2
      Quote: Machete
      Submarines in the steppes of Ukraine ....
      It was in the movies, remember ...

      In vain giggle. On the Dnieper to Kyev on the submarine is quite comfortable to reach. Well, your belly will be scratched, well, you’ll drive the screws, so they seem to have a “Lenin Forge” there.
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 28 October 2017 22: 11
        +6
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Quote: Machete
        Submarines in the steppes of Ukraine ....
        It was in the movies, remember ...

        In vain giggle. On the Dnieper to Kyev on the submarine is quite comfortable to reach. Well, your belly will be scratched, well, you’ll drive the screws, so they seem to have a “Lenin Forge” there.

        most likely not already ... even in Hohland they already write that he began to dry up and go to rub off from blocking the flow to the Crimea !!! wassat lol lol lol good
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 29 October 2017 08: 24
          +1
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          that he began to dry up and litter !!!

          What started to dry out and go dirty? Brain?
      2. Prosha
        Prosha 28 October 2017 22: 21
        0
        So they will not repair you, they only know how to make screws on airplanes, and even then, according to rumors, all production was sold to China smile
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 28 October 2017 21: 30
      12
      Around this series
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 28 October 2017 21: 37
        +4
        Lord of the Sith
        Around this series
        The namesake, this integrated approach is called. One ambush Galygin "bastard" plays! But Klitschko Mlyn no words, a plow for life.! Ha Ha !!!! Aaaaaa laughing
  2. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 28 October 2017 20: 53
    11
    The Ukrainian fleet has already disappeared. There was only a flock of insects .... I just don’t remember which ones ... Not mosquitoes, not cockroaches or fleas ... And Russia does not need to fight Ukraine, and even more so with its non-existent fleet .... She herself not bad at it.
    1. volodya
      volodya 28 October 2017 20: 55
      +2
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      Only a flock of insects left

      There is also a "wolf pack"!
      1. forester
        forester 28 October 2017 22: 02
        +3
        Quote: volodya
        Quote: KOT BYUN
        Only a flock of insects left

        There is also a "wolf pack"!

        Only wolves and rags.
        1. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 28 October 2017 22: 35
          +5
          Only wolves and rags.

          Well, if the wolves, then, rather, shameful laughing
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 October 2017 20: 55
    +1
    Our fleet does not need our fleet to block Odessa and the entire surrounding submarine. And enough MRK pairs. Submarines in the Black Sea are not needed for Russia to intimidate the "squire".
  4. weksha50
    weksha50 28 October 2017 20: 56
    +3
    "Russia intends to use submarines of the Black Sea Fleet to seize the territory of Ukraine."..

    Mdyayayaya ..... Navy submarines in the steppes of Ukraine - it’s still clear ...
    But here’s the submarine of the Russian Navy in the steppes of the same Ukraine - it was necessary to think of it ...

    PS This not-so-smart warrior doesn’t even understand that there are no Russian submarines to fight with the Ukrainian fleet in the Black Sea Fleet ... River -... estuary ... swamp ... do not shoot with cruise missiles and torpedoes on artillery boats ... .
  5. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 28 October 2017 21: 00
    +5
    But these “admirals” are also met at some joint NATO-related maneuvers, welcomed, listened, agreed, nodded. Before it’s too late, take the dagger so that it doesn’t hurt itself, and give out a shirt with long sleeves with ties on the back (even if it is striped (yellow-black), let it be rejoicing).
    1. CAT BAIYUN
      CAT BAIYUN 28 October 2017 22: 37
      +6
      But these “admirals” are also met at some joint NATO-related maneuvers, welcomed, listened, agreed, nodded

      And how without clowns ?! Well these are not interesting teachings obtained! And then they saw what "advanced" clowns ?! In uniform! Do not Khukhra Mukhra ... you can’t order such people on a matinee .... Already envy takes laughing
    2. urman
      urman 29 October 2017 08: 54
      +1
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      take the dagger so that it doesn’t hurt itself

      And do not give forks at dinner so that your eye does not gouge.
  6. Serge72
    Serge72 28 October 2017 21: 00
    18
    Maybe eyeliner (coy)? laughing
  7. Berkut24
    Berkut24 28 October 2017 21: 03
    +3
    Not a single “warship” of Ukraine is worthy of a torpedo because of its insignificant cost and worthless combat value. Of all the infrastructure facilities in Ukraine, a maximum of ten are worthy of attention. For the same reasons. If the militia can buy APU apiece, the purchase by Russia of almost the entire ukroarmiya will not require a lot of money, but if you pay extra, they will take Kiev and lead them on a leash.
  8. Settlement Oparyshev
    Settlement Oparyshev 28 October 2017 21: 04
    0
    Dill listen, do not respect yourself.
  9. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 28 October 2017 21: 06
    +4
    Well, you attacked the Ukrainian admiral! laughing
    He said what was needed - the sum went into his pocket wink So you can talk about the car, and if you dream up specifically, then on Quater wassat
    Yes, and you can’t order a stomach repeat And his wife wants a fur coat .... winked
  10. Yak28
    Yak28 28 October 2017 21: 07
    +1
    Russian soldiers in Crimea told Ukrainian soldiers VON, and Ukrainians gave up part of their territory and abandoned military bases without a fight. Are submarines necessary against such fighters?
  11. asiat_61
    asiat_61 28 October 2017 21: 12
    +1
    Envy, one of mortal sins.
  12. Masya masya
    Masya masya 28 October 2017 21: 13
    +8
    Vice Admiral Igor Voronchenko said that the Ukrainian fleet needed anti-submarine ships to protect it from Russian submarines.

    Lohlam is always missing something - in the winter of summer, in the spring of spring ... Lord, who would have presented them with a cruiser ... we can fall apart faster ... wink
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 28 October 2017 21: 15
      +6
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Lord, who would have presented them with a cruiser ... we can fall apart faster ...

      They have wink True non-working what Maybe this is not yet collapsed? request

      And called, oddly enough, "Ukraine" .... what
      1. NKT
        NKT 28 October 2017 21: 23
        +1
        They long ago recalled this name before selling it to us (even under Yanukovych), but now it will be sold for scrap.
        1. Masya masya
          Masya masya 28 October 2017 21: 26
          +6
          Quote: NKT
          They have long recalled this name before the sale

          From the fact that the name was recalled, they themselves did not cease to be corrupt ...
          1. NKT
            NKT 28 October 2017 22: 18
            +1
            Well, yes, we are on a par with Poland, the Baltic states
      2. Vanek
        Vanek 29 October 2017 07: 34
        +2
        Quote: Rurikovich
        And called


        The whole country is like this cruiser ...

        The same rusty - rotten and incompetent. Although wait a minute, ho anchor chains can throw off. Not capable of volley, nor in the open sea either.
  13. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 28 October 2017 21: 24
    +2
    Quote: Yak28
    Russian soldiers in Crimea told Ukrainian soldiers VON, and Ukrainians gave up part of their territory and abandoned military bases without a fight. Are submarines necessary against such fighters?

    You are mistaken - it was their owners who thought that the Crimea was Ukrainian, and the Ukrainians themselves understood that they had used the stolen goods. That's why they left without blood - the Crimeans so "affectionately" asked them to get out of there. hi
  14. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 28 October 2017 21: 24
    +1
    Enchanting Customers of Chamber Number 6
  15. vik669
    vik669 28 October 2017 21: 29
    0
    Submarine in the steppes of Ukraine.
  16. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 28 October 2017 21: 48
    0
    Given that the "Varshavyanka" are Caliber, there is something to fall
  17. demo
    demo 28 October 2017 22: 06
    11
    Earlier, the chairman of the "Union of Officers of Ukraine" Z.A. Lupakov.
    Oh, and his initials!
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 29 October 2017 23: 41
      +5
      1000500 Pros !!! I did not pay attention, after your comment plakapatstalom !!!
  18. antivirus
    antivirus 28 October 2017 22: 07
    0
    Back in the days of the IVS, a secret line was built for the Kubinka-Odessa metro tunnel (through Kiev).
    It’s through this tunnel that the invaders will go. Already now transporting 200 rubles bills
  19. zivXP
    zivXP 28 October 2017 22: 08
    +1
    Earlier, the chairman of the "Union of Officers of Ukraine" Lupakov looked at the old Turkish submarines to fight Russia in the Black Sea. Ankara writes off the old submarines of project 208 for scrap, but could transfer them to Ukraine

    Well buy what problems? Or is it all for free?
  20. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 28 October 2017 22: 13
    +3
    They do not let us forget Ukraine ... Only the people will begin to grumble about their affairs mournful, and then bam! The article and the news is so fresh about Ukraine and Ukrainians ... And right away, a patriotic holiday - it turns out to be stupid in power in Ukraine, and here it’s not so ... and not so. We are ahead!
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 29 October 2017 00: 06
      0
      Quote: Fedya2017
      And right away, the patriotic holiday is in your soul - it turns out to be stupid in Ukraine, but in our country it’s not ... and not so. We are ahead!

      Yeah .. right here on the VO forum, all the important things in Russia are being decided .. and we're all about Ukraine and about Ukraine ..
      They didn’t try to get a job .. raise the country, so to speak?
      1. Fedya2017
        Fedya2017 29 October 2017 00: 50
        +2
        Quote: dvina71
        They didn’t try to get a job .. raise the country, so to speak?

        Yeah ... I tried. From the age of 16 until the retirement ... So everything lifted his native country. Right now, according to rumors, are they again lifting the country from their knees? ... Ukraine has already overtaken by rate of climb ...
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 29 October 2017 09: 04
          +1
          Then I remove the issue of work .. And I respect your age and the features of thinking that accompany it ..
          1. Fedya2017
            Fedya2017 29 October 2017 12: 58
            0
            Quote: dvina71
            And I respect your age and the accompanying features of thinking ..

            Time itself will show ... You’ll probably become wiser. All the best.
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 29 October 2017 13: 29
              +2
              You see ... in time it just shows. 10 years ago I carried mostly foreign cargo in the back of my car. Now .. well, I’ve just arrived .. Metal galvanization from Ryazan for YamalSPG, screw piles .. from Russian pipes, made on Russian machines ... there’s every little thing ... imported only counters for Leroy Marlene, which will open soon , they brought bronze there for the Aleksinsky stop valve plant, which make products for the Moscow Region, oil industry workers and nuclear engineers ..
              So I work and I see how others work .. I have no time to complain, I’ll be retired .. I’ll be like you .. "nowadays ..."
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 28 October 2017 22: 16
    0
    Some strategic thinking is failing the whole leadership of Ukraine, and at the same time!
    Russia doesn’t even need to use troops to capture the unstable part of Ukraine. Somewhere, 5-6 Iskanders in the country's main transformer stations will lead the country to collapse in winter (and in summer). Literally in 2 weeks, the country's population will raise all who represent something from myself in the form of power.
    A riot or something like that, but there is one serious point. An attempt to restore order in the Crimea instantly found those dissatisfied, to find a middle in this case does not work out at all!
  22. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 28 October 2017 22: 19
    0
    Russia intends to use submarines of the Black Sea Fleet to capture the territory of Ukraine.
    are they mushrooms with poles or something fool
  23. arane
    arane 28 October 2017 22: 24
    +3
    Ankara writes off old 208 submarines for scrap, and could transfer them to Ukraine
    - said Lupakov, while noting that with the help of Turkish submarines, Ukraine would have sunk everything "Russian, that is in the Black Sea".

    Yeah, and if he had boxing gloves, he would have cleaned Tyson's turnip ....
  24. Sige
    Sige 28 October 2017 22: 37
    0
    Russia, if necessary, will use not only submarines against the Vassal States of America, but all that it has.
  25. Egorovich
    Egorovich 28 October 2017 22: 47
    +7
    The higher the rank in the Ukrop army, the stupider its carrier. One is cleaner than the other. Not a general, but a real schiz.
  26. tochila
    tochila 28 October 2017 23: 06
    0
    Uncle Lupakov, you -?
  27. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 28 October 2017 23: 14
    +6
    This is not treated ...
    1. Lganhi
      Lganhi 29 October 2017 01: 15
      0
      It is very well treated by a bullet in a saucepan, or by a loop on the neck.
  28. APASUS
    APASUS 28 October 2017 23: 18
    +1
    Well, are you guys doing this? You don’t even look to write such nonsense?
  29. AID.S
    AID.S 28 October 2017 23: 25
    +1
    Russia intends to use submarines of the Black Sea Fleet to capture the territory of Ukraine

    Kologrivsky tire received an order from the MO for a batch of wheels for submarines, a network of tire shops, according to Navalny, headed by Shoygu's cousin, won a tender for installing wheels.
  30. Yoshi
    Yoshi 29 October 2017 00: 39
    +4
    "Fighting Russia" is the theme of this day at the Ukrainian Olympus. A little more in the same vein and the population will begin the struggle with Russia against the United States, and if there is a better mix, then against everyone else.

    Yesterday I talked on Skype with a friend’s old people (he climbed somewhere, but his ancestors were at home), so they talked about "pension reform." Namely, to whom and how much pension have been added. The devaluation of UAH amounted to 350% (Yuchpenko expressed it). Pension from my grandfather was 1560 UAH (about 3400 rubles) became 1726 UAH (about 3730 rubles), from my grandmother was 1390 UAH (about 3000 rubles) it became 1610 UAH (about 3480 rubles) Heating and hot water are almost like at the Swedes. (not quality, but price). The old ones said that everything was such a chaos that "everyone who thinks and whose business was a little bit" got away from the country ... The defense industry and the aircraft industry (my grandfather worked in the design bureau) almost finished. He thought that the Americans went to bang everything, and then throw them back to Russia. I do not agree with my grandfather, but I realized that there’s still the madhouse.
    1. just exp
      just exp 29 October 2017 08: 03
      +1
      The pension at the grandfather was 1560 UAH (approx. 3400 rubles)

      when it all started 1500 UAH is more than 6000 rubles ($ 200). not 3400. then the course was 4 with a penny to one.
      now read almost 2 to one. So it turns out that the sanctions on the economy hit 2 times weaker than the "all-world" support.
      and by the way the grandfather was right.
  31. Nemesis
    Nemesis 29 October 2017 00: 55
    +4
    All of your Ukraine is on the map of 1654, and Odessa was built by decree of the Russian government, on the money of Russia and on the lands conquered by Russia from Turkey ...
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 29 October 2017 07: 56
      0
      Quote: Nemesis
      conquered by Russia from Turkey ...

      Returned or Conquered ...
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 30 October 2017 19: 56
        +1
        This is as you wish, but only Russia has rights to Odessa and partly Turkey, but not Ukraine
  32. izya top
    izya top 29 October 2017 05: 16
    +3
    Russia intends to use submarines against Ukraine


  33. Mwg
    Mwg 29 October 2017 05: 20
    +2
    "Russia intends to use submarines of the Black Sea Fleet to seize the territory of Ukraine. Such a statement was made by lieutenant general of the Armed Forces, former deputy chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Romanenko in an interview for the publication" Apostrof. " - Achtung, Achtung! Russish submarine in the steppe Ukrainian !!!!
  34. Wolka
    Wolka 29 October 2017 06: 53
    0
    it is good to moan dill, they lowered themselves to the level of the Baltic states, by definition you should not be given any weapons ...
  35. Vanek
    Vanek 29 October 2017 07: 21
    +2
    Ankara deducts old submarines of project 208 for scrap, but could transfer them to Ukraine

    lol That’s not the dust! Well this is necessary. laughing laughing
  36. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 29 October 2017 07: 23
    +2
    ))) The fleet of Ukraine? Humor. So far, everyone has laughed.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 29 October 2017 07: 38
      +2
      Yuri Y. Today, 07:23 AM New
      ))) The fleet of Ukraine? Humor. So far, everyone has laughed.

      ... has always been Soviet, Russian, but Ukrokaklovsky - NEVER ... angry
  37. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 October 2017 07: 36
    +1
    “Or they start new diesel boats with cruise missiles - is that a defensive weapon?” He added.

    ... that nooo ... play in the sandbox !!! bully
  38. Old military officer
    Old military officer 29 October 2017 07: 44
    +1
    [quote = Machete] Submarines in the steppes of Ukraine ....
    Himself wanted to write, all in accordance with the old Soviet totalitarian recipe. The great is immortal.
  39. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 29 October 2017 07: 46
    0
    "Everything you say will be used against you!"
  40. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 29 October 2017 08: 10
    +1
    What's so funny? Dude just said that "the boats will be used for cruise missile attacks in Ukraine, in the event of war" ... like in Syria ... What's so funny? Or is it "clear to anyone" enough to show a finger and he will start to laugh? what is the irony about the Ukrainian Navy, it’s clear that the country is in a deplorable economic state .... but! Have you forgotten how recently, the Russian Navy was in the same poor state?
    1. NKT
      NKT 29 October 2017 09: 28
      0
      It would not be funny if it were not so sad. Here they laugh at the general diagnosis of the ruling elite in Kiev, which is manifested in rabid and thoughtless statements.
  41. Bare
    Bare 29 October 2017 08: 26
    +2
    Russian submarine in Milan. They say the truth laughing
    To every capital of the country of the NATO bloc by submarine! lol
    Glory to the Russian Navy !!!
  42. Eurodav
    Eurodav 29 October 2017 08: 57
    0
    "... Ankara writes off the old submarines of Project 208 for scrap, but could transfer them to Ukraine ..."
    Fuck, rolled his lip ... Beggars generally beguiled! Could convey! Well, arrogance ... Exactly- When a Ukrainian born Jew cried!
  43. PalBor
    PalBor 29 October 2017 09: 28
    +2
    What stupid people they are: Russia intends to use submarines against Ukraine ... yeah, submarines, submarines, transodos, embankments
    and ... yes enough already!
  44. stolz
    stolz 29 October 2017 09: 48
    0
    Quote: volodya

    Right! Directly from Belarus from the swamps and launch the submarine!

    It will not work, there the 6th American fleet is deployed.
  45. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 29 October 2017 10: 31
    +2
    "... the Ukrainian fleet needs anti-submarine ships to protect against Russian submarines ......" Need clarification: submarines on a tracked or wheeled track?
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 29 October 2017 18: 26
      +2
      With a white steam engine and a stern wheel!
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 30 October 2017 01: 11
        +9
        Leonid hi So about such a film Volga-Volga shot.
        - The ship is good, only it’s better not to touch it with his hands!
        good
  46. Kunica
    Kunica 29 October 2017 10: 33
    +2
    Already probably detained the Russian submariners near Donetsk. Passports are attached.
  47. prior
    prior 29 October 2017 11: 16
    +1
    Why use anything against Ukraine at all!
    They, "heroes", will cope with themselves with success.
  48. Arikkhab
    Arikkhab 29 October 2017 11: 29
    0
    A submarine ... In the steppes of Ukraine ... Died in an unequal aerial battle ...
  49. razved
    razved 29 October 2017 12: 18
    0
    Yes, submarines, as well as spaceships laughing
  50. Evil 55
    Evil 55 29 October 2017 13: 32
    +1
    "Submarines of the Black Sea Fleet to capture the territory of Ukraine" is something new in the theory and strategy of warfare .. There is nothing worse than an amateur at the helm of a country or ministry ..
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 29 October 2017 18: 25
      +1
      Have you seen others at the top of the Ukakakainov’s government and Kukuev’s leadership?