90% Russian navy transferred to contract service

The Russian submarine fleet 100% went to service under the contract, the surface fleet - 90%, said the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy fleet Russian Vladimir Korolev in an interview with the program "News on Saturday" of the channel "Russia 1".

We are on submarines completely transferred to the contract basis, on surface ships, this figure is 90% already. This is an objective necessity, after all the navy is modern, high-tech ships. And there is only one way out - contract service.

- said Korolev, adding that professional naval schools last year trained more than 1000 people in 200 specialties.

According to him, this is largely due to the reanimated in 2016, by order of the Minister of Defense of the Nakhimov School, which includes schools in St. Petersburg, Sevastopol, Vladivostok and Murmansk.

We have kept the highest special officer classes, this is the training of ship commanders, flagship specialists. I have little idea now what it would be like if we lost this excellent educational institution. We have surpassed the naval formation that was in the Soviet Union by an order of magnitude. And according to the flying of our pilots and the surfacing of our ships today can only be compared with the times of the USSR

- said the commander in chief.

He added that now on a permanent basis in the sea they solve various tasks of more than 100 Russian ships, reports RIA News

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

90% Russian navy transferred to contract service
Now the accident rate will drop to zero.

[Herculesic]

Are you so sure about this? The human factor, as well as the heavy wear and tear of technology has not gone away, they will just ask more sternly if anything, and it will be easier to find the guilty ones, and not the switchman!

[210ox]

It would be better if 90% switched to new ships .. Dreams ..

[Shurik70]

I believe that every physically healthy man should go through the army.
It is the army that forms the identity of the nation. Without it, media and bank loans will shape self-awareness. It’s not going to end in anything good.
That the fleet completely switches to contract soldiers is okay. It’s harder to serve on the ship, and the service life is longer. But on land they also want to completely switch to a contract.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Shurik70

It is the army that forms the identity of the nation.

the nation’s consciousness is formed from the kindergarten and its state ideology pervades all education and upbringing of a person. At 18 years old, self-consciousness and personality are 90% formed.
It’s too late to form at 18 years old. The army only exacerbates the existing personality traits. A good person will become better and dermal even bigger shit.

[hrych]

Quote: Shurik70

I believe that every physically healthy man should go through the army.

There should be good military training courses, starting with school student training, ending with universities, with decent fees. Society and, above all, education need to be more militarized. Namely, the service should be uniquely professional. It will be much more effective. The experience of the USSR in building the Armed Forces showed that the army turned out to be insolvent, as the guarantor of the state, because it was not saved at the right time. Cronyism and hazing, where who did what, but not military training. And coffins with disfigured children walked constantly. The officers corps sprouted Raguli (intentionally because from Stalin the ruguli ruled to the end), which are Seljks, not a warrior caste. Therefore, the army to which the Supreme aspires is undoubtedly professional and national.

[Skeptic]

Quote: hrych

There should be good military training courses, starting with school student training, ending with universities, with decent fees. Society and, above all, education need to be more militarized. Namely, the service should be uniquely professional. It will be much more effective. The experience of the USSR in building the Armed Forces showed that the army turned out to be insolvent, as the guarantor of the state, because it was not saved at the right time. Cronyism and hazing, where who did what, but not military training.

Hmm, I remember in school a course of NVP, these lessons simply did not give a damn about the assessment did not affect academic performance on anything. Then the guys were not interested in the army, now I think even more so.
And at the expense of contractors, at least in Belarusian society there is an opinion that a normal person with normal brains and a profession has nothing to do in the army. Well, a normal man will not go to a contract if he has hands and a head. This is clearly mental degradation, I observed such of the disbanded HF-simply walking topics for discussion.

[hrych]

Quote: SkepticCynic

Hmm, I remember in the school the course of NVP, these lessons simply did not give a damn the assessment did not affect the performance on anything

Namely, given the Soviet anti-experience

Quote: SkepticCynic

Well, a normal man will not go to a contract if he has hands and a head

Well, kshatriyas are peculiar people, so the average artisan and peasant (worker and farmer), which the vast majority, are not.

[Skeptic]

Quote: hrych

Quote: SkepticCynic

Hmm, I remember in the school the course of NVP, these lessons simply did not give a damn the assessment did not affect the performance on anything

Namely, given the Soviet anti-experience

Quote: SkepticCynic

Well, a normal man will not go to a contract if he has hands and a head

Well, kshatriyas are peculiar people, so the average artisan and peasant (worker and farmer), which the vast majority, are not.

this is what I understand, level. I didn’t think of anything better than to bring the caste system of India as an argument. So add the Hindu sacred cows.

[hrych]

Quote: SkepticCynic

So add the Hindu sacred cows.

Oh, you do not understand. The society of people is divided into castes not because they are Indians, etc. there is a different psychotype of people. Heard, for example, probably about choleric, melancholic, sanguine and phlegmatic. Therefore, psychotypes make some people be able to work, to submission, but not others. Where 10 percent are capable of killing, and it is these people who will either be used by the state for its intended purpose, or will work against the state. Therefore, a professional army still allows you to isolate these comrades, i.e. Kshatriyas in essence, not the name. Emergency service brings ragul and Selyuk to the top of the pyramid and such an army is not capable of anything. The imperial - imperial army consisted mainly of recruits. Classes such as nobles, Cossacks, etc., are understandable, but the common people gave out recruits. At a certain point, she set up the system, then reforms and the sailor went, and so on. Drunk decided the fate of the RI state. A similar thing happened with the USSR, when the guarantor of society began to work against it. Therefore, the Supreme creates a caste of warriors, and rightly so, for nothing better has been invented by humanity. And the draft drives the incapable into the army and this makes the jelly out of the army.

[Skeptic]

By psychotype you mean temperament. Yes, and temperament just do not understand. But those who are capable of killing do not mean that they are able to obey orders, sacrifice themselves for the sake of others, but just the opposite of ignoring the laws, and setting their interests above the lives of others. In short, inclusion has brought you from caste to criminality,

[hrych]

Here is a generalized concept of psychotypes ... The population itself gives out fighters from their midst who have a sacrifice to their population, in addition to the ability to kill, have the ability to be organized, etc. Bees, ants and termites do this a hundred million years earlier. If we take precisely the Indo-Aryan ethnos (who the Russians are in their pure form), it is very rich in this, or rather it is the most advanced of all the diversity of human species. All peoples at the destruction of the caste of warriors and priests obey implicitly. When the Third Reich fell, they expected miracles from Volkssturm and Werewolf, in fact zilch, Germans logged ... But among the Russians, the fall of their capital is only the beginning ... Caste is filled up by the population instantly and from layers, at first glance incapable of this . It’s not worth going into details, the topic is too voluminous, but our High Priest is in the subject and knows what he is doing, but he singles out the right people amazingly. Therefore, it achieves fantastic results on the battlefield.

[Don]

Quote: SkepticCynic

a normal person with normal brains and a profession has nothing to do in the army. Well, a normal man will not go to a contract if he has hands and a head. This is clearly mental degradation, I observed such of the disbanded HF-simply walking topics for discussion.

The question is controversial of course. On the one hand, the security of the state must be ensured at 100%, and on the other, the arguments you have given also have a place to be. I don’t feel like the only son who always studied well, immediately after school, went to serve an urgent term, and then remained under the contract until 30. What will he do then? In the "best case" it will become a cop, and in the worst - a guard or a worker at a construction site. Facial degradation system

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Shurik70

I believe that every physically healthy man should go through the army.

or you forgot the population of Russia or HZ !!!

[Teberii]

The human factor is important, but it is better if it plays less roles with a constant crew.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Herkulesich

Are you so sure about this? The human factor, as well as the heavy wear and tear of technology has not disappeared,

Previously in the Navy, served for three years. What can you teach a sailor in one year. You will not deny that in the Navy, as well as in aviation, and by and large, the modern army already has sophisticated equipment in service, and professionals should service it. You must admit that the “human factor” decreases sharply when a specialist is working, and increases sharply when a boy is taken up who does not know what discipline is (they don’t learn how to do this in a civilian way), and only smartphone.

[tlauicol]

The ships still reduce and about 100% you can cheerfully report. And about the increase in build-up, too. The fleet has decreased, and the whole secret

[hrych]

Quote: Tlauicol

The ships still reduce and about 100% you can cheerfully report.

Are you talking about new submarines, including nuclear submarines, a bunch of RTOs and Corvettes of different series? Or about the vessels of the far zone, which are undergoing the same modernization. Or was the fleet steeper with EBN?

[forester]

Quote: Tlauicol

The ships still reduce and about 100% you can cheerfully report. And about the increase in build-up, too. The fleet has decreased, and the whole secret

Such as you need to reduce - that’s the whole secret.

[RASKAT]

Again, everything was distorted, the commander in chief meant warships and submarines. In the auxiliary fleet ashore, the percentage reaches 50%. Approximately the same percentage on warships standing near the berth walls and waiting for repairs and decommissioning.

[Reserve officer]

Quote: RASKAT

Again, everything was distorted, the commander in chief meant warships and submarines. In the auxiliary fleet ashore, the percentage reaches 50%. Approximately the same percentage on warships standing near the berth walls and waiting for repairs and decommissioning.

And with the Nakhimov schools, it seems to me, the words also distorted. What does it mean, reanimated in 2016 on the orders of the Minister of Defense?
I didn’t understand something about resuscitation. The Nakhimov School in Leningrad was created in 1944 and has not gone anywhere since then. In 1955 it became the only one (there were still schools in Riga and Tbilisi). And on the orders of the Minister of Defense in 2016, three branches of the St. Petersburg Nakhimov Naval School were established - in Sevastopol (there was a presidential cadet, from 2014), in Vladivostok (previously it was also a presidential cadet from 2013) and Murmansk.

[Pirogov]

The submariners for the contract are understandable, but for the surface fleet, there must be a call, otherwise it is possible to stay without sailors, and those who will not be impudent on the contract, demanding an exorbitant salary.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Pirogov

there must be a call, otherwise you can stay without sailors

What's the point? Even the corvette is being built for at least a year, and by the time of delivery all the ships are equipped with a crew - where should these conscripts go?

[trahterist]

how to where? parade ground with crowbars of revenge, beat off the drill, paint the grass, lay out the snow with "cubes" ... yes, what can the elder or grandfather come up with! But what kind of readiness, wow! The notorious 'soldier must be permanently borrowed ... nnym'.
Sarcasm, naturally.
But seriously, it’s time for a long time to end the garbage to suffer, i.e. use draftees as a free labor force.

[forester]

Quote: Pirogov

The submariners for the contract are understandable, but for the surface fleet, there must be a call, otherwise it is possible to stay without sailors, and those who will not be impudent on the contract, demanding an exorbitant salary.

Not with today's service life - at least 2 years is necessary, but preferably 3, as in the USSR.

[trahterist]

let's all 25 years, why trifle!
If we discard all the IDIOTISM, which in no way relates to the implementation of combat training, then it suddenly turns out that for privates / sailors, and even for sergeants, the year is enough to meet.
No, I understand that kind of logic - "we had, and we will have." How is it that dads / grandfathers pulled a strap for 2-3-4 years, of which it was good to pay combat training if half the time (we don’t think the strategic parts, there’s constant bg), then you need to shove the children into the same shit.
No, the lafa ended, the fighter should do his own thing, and not hang around aimlessly and without any benefit for the cook or cleaner.

[Herculesic]

And the mobile reserve? ?? How to deal with him? After all, “counterbasses” are not born, you need to teach a new person, especially to several specialties at once, how will this happen? You won’t become a specialist right away, and some will go there primarily because of money and benefits, having a minimum of knowledge, and believing that this is enough for them. Only here the fleet is not dry, there can be no substitute in battle if you do not know, and you do not know how, something will simply be replaced by someone. And now there are few specialists of the "wide profile" on many ships, go completely no.

[marlin1203]

Mob reserve for ships !?

[Primoos]

[quote = Herculesych] And the mobile reserve? ?? How to deal with him? After all, “counterbasses” are not born, you need to teach a new person, especially to several specialties at once, how will this happen? Sea romance has not gone anywhere. Many young men dream of the sea. They go to naval schools.

[weksha50]

Quote: Primoos

Sea romance has not gone anywhere. Many young men dream of the sea. They go to naval schools.

The question is not about the officers, but - where will the sailors and foremen-contractors come from without an appeal to the Navy?
Indeed, before, those people whom the commander knew from the service, his abilities, etc., were left (or sent to study) to the over-conscript or ensign.
And so - to take a pig in a poke, a kid who came to the draft board after school and said: I want to serve in the Navy on a contract basis ???
Stupid is all ... Either the media distorted the meaning of what was said, or the talking head blurted out, not thinking about what it was saying ...

[Primoos]

Recruitment takes place, including in the ground forces. They come with a citizen. For many, this is almost the only opportunity to connect fate with the sea. Naturally, they are all trained.

[Masya masya]

When the dawn burns out
Walk away from the Dolphins piers,
Under the mines of mighty rockets
Substituting humpbacked backs.
To the north, under pack ice
to where the crown of the earth
Diving and wake trail
It will melt in the depths behind us.

And there, under the ice,
And night and day
Invisible to everyone
667.
Rock the law.
To get it - twice two,
We have RSM "SINEVA".

Eight on each side
Keeping silence before the deadline,
Ready to pierce the heights
Go through the flames and rumble.
By the time the submarine comes up,
Breaking a wormwood over him.
Estimated rocket will leave
On the battlefield.

And here, under the ice,
It's dark even in the afternoon
like a bone in the throat of everyone
BDRM.
Swing rights -
We chop it into firewood.
We have the SINEVA aboard.

RPLs are on a hike
Greatness, honor and courage.
Like blue and white ice
Crosses on St. Andrew’s flags ...
Not wasting a word
We believe in simple truths.
The watch is "BLUE"
Over the blue sky of Russia.

And there, under the ice,
And night and day
Invisible to everyone
667.
The depths of blue, heaven of blue,
We have on board the "BLUE" ...

[sabakina]

Marina, I do not know what to say. I am not a sailor. Just put the good old cartoon.

[Masya masya]

Vyacheslav, howdy there! Thanks for the cartoon, I plunged right into my childhood ... to our children more often show such cartoons!

[stroitel]

The contract is a double-edged sword. I am for the mixed version. On the one hand, sailors on call simply do not have time to master the technique for the service life. Contrast can be taught to be an excellent minder, engineer, electrician. He will be guaranteed to know and maintain his equipment. But according to KU on the ship should be in the parking lot 30% of the crew. A contractor is mostly a man over 20. He can already be married and has children. So it will be asked for a gathering. The question is how to ensure life support and readiness to go to sea in the presence of 30% of the crew. And on appeal, they live on hardware and more or less close these issues. Fewer fly ashore. The counter, especially idle, this is a "risk group" somewhere "dirt" will find. Here it is necessary to think well.

[trahterist]

How then is this problem solved in the fleets of sworn friends, in the same US Navy? Some contractors, and they don’t seem to complain. I’m never a fan of their aircraft, but in my opinion it’s not shameful for the “competitors” to learn some things and apply what is useful at home

[Bronevick]

Now the cleaners will scrub the deck, aaaaaaa

[sabakina]

The cleaners remained in the USSR. now these, like them, cleanings ..... Well, if it’s right to call that x ...

[petrol cutter]

I do not know whether this is good or bad. The steamer is not a Kalashnikov machine, understanding is needed here.

[weksha50]

"The Russian submarine fleet 100% switched to contract service, the surface fleet - 90%"...

Hmm ... This is good ... But where will sailors and foremen-contractors come from (without a call to the fleet)?
Somehow weakly I understand this mechanism ...
Well .... This is enough for contractors now, while the fleet is not expanding much ... And if, God forbid, they still solve issues with propulsion systems, financing, production facilities and specialists, where you can get so many contractors ?
Again - he said, for the ceremonial report-word ...

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Probably economically unprofitable. It’s simpler for a young fellow to call for an urgent term as a specialist and leave for a contract, than to pay dough for a contract s / n for six months during the training period and spend money and resources on it for training.

[Bert]

Didn't even blush.

[tolmachiev51]

The fact that we are moving away from cannon fodder is already good. Specialization and specialist training is important everywhere.

[tolmachiev51]

Quote: weksha50

"The Russian submarine fleet 100% switched to contract service, the surface fleet - 90%"...

Hmm ... This is good ... But where will sailors and foremen-contractors come from (without a call to the fleet)?
Somehow weakly I understand this mechanism ...
Well .... This is enough for contractors now, while the fleet is not expanding much ... And if, God forbid, they still solve issues with propulsion systems, financing, production facilities and specialists, where you can get so many contractors ?
Again - he said, for the ceremonial report-word ...

And before that, they flew from Mars !!! ??? Training courses.

[Dzafdet]

It’s interesting, what would happen now in Syria if the Defense Ministry still headed Taburetkin?

[Altona]

Quote: SkepticCynic

And at the expense of contractors, at least in Belarusian society there is an opinion that a normal person with normal brains and a profession has nothing to do in the army. Well, a normal man will not go to a contract if he has hands and a head. This is clearly mental degradation, I observed such of the disbanded HF-simply walking topics for discussion.

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When I served in 1988-89, the army had high-class officers who could turn any trash into working equipment. True, then part of the officers quit to do civilian electronics, antennas for receiving satellite television, amplifiers of various kinds, transmitting and receiving equipment and all that.

[Altona]

Quote: lopvlad

the nation’s consciousness is formed from the kindergarten and its state ideology pervades all education and upbringing of a person. At 18 years old, self-consciousness and personality are 90% formed.

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And what, at the age of 18 a person must be abandoned and put a fat cross on him? And then wonder why we do not care and burghers breed.

[Altona]

Quote: Dzafdet

It’s interesting, what would happen now in Syria if the Defense Ministry still headed Taburetkin?

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And there would be nothing. Do not you remember that at that time we stupidly surrendered Libya, giving the West a "no-fly zone". The purchase of the Mistral was still. Very successful as we recall. It was then that this stupid trend for "civilian defense ministers" quickly ended.

[Former battalion commander]

Contractors (mercenaries) have never won a major war. The transition to a contract army is the path to a complete loss of combat capability in the long course of the conflict. There is even a parable that mercenaries start a war, and reservists bring victory. Without preparing a reserve in the Hades of ordinary people, the country dooms itself to inevitable defeat in long-running conflicts. Hoping for a brevity of war is not necessary on the example of Syria. A brief war will be surrendered immediately. It seems that the Russian "strategists" plan this way.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Former battalion commander Hoping for a brevity of war is not necessary on the example of Syria. A brief war will be surrendered immediately. It seems that the Russian "strategists" plan this way.

Apparently you respected do not share the line of the Party and the Government, and also do not feel the whole current political moment ....
Apparently

Russian "strategists"

are preparing for war with the widespread use of nuclear weapons, where there will be no time for the deployment and staffing of framing divisions, gee ... tea is not dumber than us ....

[trahterist]

Do not confuse a contractor, an “official” state serviceman and a fighter who is fighting for the loot in a private office!
Yes, sometimes warriors from PMCs do dirty work for the officers, but there’s a difference, don’t you? At least legally.

[Roman 11]

Quote: hrych

our High Priest is in the subject and knows what he is doing, but he singles out the right people amazingly. Therefore, it achieves fantastic results on the battlefield.

Some kind of idiocy