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Why I left Canada. Opinion about Canada through the eyes of not accustomed

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Canada is a magnificent country, the second largest in the world, the ecology is wonderful, nature is excellent. Like on a picture.
Many have never been there even tourists, and, most likely, they never will, it hurts to get a visa. For some reason, they (the Canadian embassies) think that you should definitely stay there (why would it, and who told them that?). Apparently, there are reasons for this. By the number of Chinese, Indians, Latinos and blacks, you can imagine that you are not at all in Canada, but in Asia or Brazil.


Why I left Canada. Opinion about Canada through the eyes of not accustomed


But the pictures do not show it. Therefore, the impression is created that Canada is exactly what you are shown. Having lived in “Canada” for many years, I want to share my observations from the inside. There is no desire to offend anyone, but before saying that the neighbor’s situation is bad (see the article A Trip to Moscow after 7 Years of Absence), it would be fair to see - what is there in your country?

So, you can get to Canada in several ways. About refugee, that is, to come and stay, I will not spread. These people have neither rights nor freedom. It makes no sense to dwell on this.

Immigration (family, professional, etc.) is the most common way. Collecting documents and paying duties is the easiest thing to do. And then you have to go through an interview. For some unknown reason, the entire immigration process took 7 months for me, and I did not go to the interview. This is the exception rather than the rule. Now do on 2 or 4 !! interview, and it takes about 3 years. That's just incomprehensible - so relate to all, or to the Hindus and Chinese in a different way? Judging by the number of the latter, Canada is interested in them, and not in whites. Vancouver is the clearest example. It is understandable, if you pay a Hindu or a Chinese a maximum of $ 7 per hour, he is happy before being put off, and there are no ambitions.

And with those who have ambitions, they will climb into the heads, and they need it? The answer is obvious.

Rule 1 Canada needs hands, not heads. There are enough heads there too.

People need to live there somewhere, and immediately upon arrival. There is a way out - it may be possible to find accommodation, first in a hotel, and then you can rent an apartment, a “basement” (that is, help the person who gives him pay his mortgage). If a person does not want to live in a dustbin, get ready to pay $ 1500 a month for a rented apartment. And obviously without any frills. As a rule, the minimum term is 1 year. Here you will be required to guarantee another person, and then oh, they do not want to take on financial obligations. Like paying for you at Tim Hortons, even $ 1.25 for coffee. Laugh. And God forbid you to start working at the other end of the city in 3 month, and want to move. You will pay a penalty for breaking a contract from 50-100% of payment amounts for the remaining months. And don't even think that in the next year period something will change. The same conditions.

Rule 2 If you do not know the rules of the game, and they are always written by those who give you something, until you learn and understand - do not go.

It's one thing to find accommodation, another is where? In which area of ​​the city? If we talk about Toronto, then in the presence of 192 nationalities, they tend to live compactly. Black, Chinese, Arab, Greek, Bendera (no joke, there is no such thing, but there are Ukrainian ones), Russians, lakeshore (such as white and expensive) and other areas differ in the same way as the countries from which these people came. And, as a rule, they look at 100% like these countries, with all their inherent dirt and odors.

Rule 3 Tell me where you live, and I will tell you who you are.

Well, now we will go around the city by car. Canadians love cars, only they almost always pay for them on credit. Well, the garbage that as a result 2 prices are paid, but immediately. By the way, if you see a cool car on the street - it’s not a fact that the owner has a lot of money, most likely he has a sooo big debt. And how they drive! Rain or snow is the most serious national disaster. The speed, and so is not very large when driving on the highway at rush hour, turns into zero km per hour. And where else you can drive, for some reason the speed drops to max 20 km / h. And do not care about anything. They are elementary afraid to ride!

The “best” drivers are Chinese. Everything is tied to their philosophy - I am a free person - I go wherever I want, and I go the same way, but what rules to hell? You will see a Chinese at the wheel - expect trouble.

The greatest joy when the back of your car will drive another car. Insurance is about 1 million bucks, insurance companies pay without problems, well, almost.

One of my friends, with whom we drove in his car, and when one too fast driver almost hit his car from behind, he was so upset that he almost wept. To the question - what are you, man? He said - “you don’t understand anything, he would have knocked me, and I would say at the court that I was so scared that I was sleeping at night now and waking up !! Thirty thousand people would receive benefits during the year! ”

But this is half the trouble, you need to pay for the insurance job - the prices never fall, on average, about $ 300 every month, take it out, and there is no guarantee that next year it will not be $ 400 per month.

Rule 4 If the payment for an apartment does not “kill you,” insurance for the car, or rather, not for the car, but for each driver, will definitely finish it off.

There is such a thing as measures of lengths and weights. 1 km = 1000 m and so on. Yes, this rule is valid anywhere, but not in Canada !. Distance between cities - in km, and the area of ​​the apartment +. in square fits. And do not care about anything. The announced price in the store for a pound, but really pay per kilogram. Psychos. Dimensions are often shown in inches and yards, and long distances in kilometers.

And they really do not care that prices are listed everywhere without taxes. What you see is not what you pay. There is also a plus 15% on top (in Ontario). This is to show that this state takes money, not they. That's just you from this is not hot and not cold.

Rule 5 Forget what you were taught in school, there you can mix all the measures of lengths and weights, and everyone will be happy.

Canadians are so zombie that they think that Canada is paradise. Maybe, but a paradise for a Hindu who came from a hole, or black from Africa. After China also looks good. But definitely not for a person from Europe.

Canada is a country for women and children. Someone who is really wonderful there. However, at school they will always be guided only by the worst, and not by the best. That grows from them gray blunt mass. A man who represents something, there is no need to immigrate somewhere, he will be able to provide for his family in any country. Speaking of men and women - in Canada, the rules are the simplest. The more beautiful and well-groomed man - the greater the chance that he is gay. The worse and uglier the woman, the greater the chance that she is a lesbian. I lived in 3 blocks from Church Street in Toronto, and am responsible for every word.

May women forgive me for what they read further, but I, as the singer, who sees and sings. Before I left for Canada, I looked at B. Spears as a fat cow of an incomprehensible size. It did not reach my consciousness that someone might like it. And then I got with my Canadian friends in a nightclub, and then in many other clubs, at work, on the street, on the highway, in transport, I saw the same thing - scary, scruffy women who do not have a mirror. Because if it were, they would at least be ashamed! What is cosmetics, they do not know, but they wash their heads, which is nice.

Of the 100% percent of women I met, I saw the following - 70% have almost the final stage of obesity, with a margin of about 30-40 kg, at least. 20% outweigh up to 20 kg, with 10% you can with a stretch say that they are slim, and only from 5 (not%, but pieces) !!! the women I met were breathtaking and did not let go for a very long time, one of which was my wife. (go down to Moscow in the subway or walk down the street - will you see it?) I had 2 shock when I came to Canada - it was the first, and when I returned to Moscow and looked at the women, it was the second one, and they drive here In the underground? No wonder that in Canada, B. Spears is beautiful!

Rule 6 Want to be surrounded by scary women - walk around Toronto.

Well, now about my favorite topic - money. Everyone needs money, whether someone likes it or not. Sales system in Canada is completely different than in Europe. No where you came from, you will never even be taught in Canada another - perhaps the most important one - personal finance management. Since I have the necessary Canadian state licenses *, I can talk about it. I will not specifically describe what financial advisors do to people and how it is on their conscience. But keep in mind that, most likely, they will sell you something on which they earn more money, and not what you need. Knowing how certain financial products work, I can say that they often buy something completely different for their family than they sell you.

The most interesting topic is boxing week. It seems that the people all year waiting for one single day to buy everything at once. Yes, the discounts are big, but the queues are like in the Soviet time for sausage.

Why? It's simple. For a Canadian, a salary of $ 50,000 per year (before taxes) is almost the ultimate dream. (Editor's note: Apparently, the author wanted to say “for a newly arrived immigrant,” although even for such we know the cases of the initial salary and 60 and even 120 thousands per year).

Let's see how much money they have left after they pay their bills.

Although there is a progressive scale of taxation and the numbers are rough for ease of calculation, in order, they do not differ much from reality.

50,000 before taxes = 30,000 after taxes per year. (Note: In the province of Ontario, this is actually $ 39,415 after taxes. A personal tax calculator, while Canada provides additional opportunities for tax cuts: such as medical expenses, physical education costs for children, charitable and political donations, etc.)

30,000 = 2,500 per month.

Removable apartment or mortgage = 1500, remains 1000.

Car leasing or loan = 400, remains 600.

Car insurance = 300, 300 remains.

Life insurance from 50 to 180, take 100, remains 200.

And eat?

And get dressed?

And refuel?

And the money for property taxes? (what taxes if a rented apartment?)

And the university to pay children?

And savings?

Continue to continue? Oddly enough, but the costs do not end there. And people who have 200 dollars per month, quietly get into debt in the form of credit cards, credit lines, etc. etc. Yes, they say that everything in Canada is wonderful, and in Moscow everything is bad. Canadian average debt in $ 130 thousand ** does not bother anyone. 9 of 10 people traveling with you on the highway, postponed to life less than $ 10 thousand. Funeral $ 15 thousand worth! Guys, people in Russia live on their own! Clear?

Rule 7 Want to live in debt, Canada is the perfect choice. True, most likely, this debt you will hang on your children, but these are trifles, did you give birth to them for this?

I'm tired of all. Since this was our answer to Chamberlain, the style is appropriate. But there is one BUT! I could write the exact same article about what is good in Canada. And I would not spare epithets. Future and real immigrants and those who are not going anywhere, has life still not taught you that there is no paradise anywhere? There is no country in which everything is good or everything is bad. Each country has its advantages and disadvantages. In the end, everyone sees in others only what he really is and nothing more. Russia is not paradise, but Canada is not paradise either! Everyone makes their own choice, as well as paying for it.
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  1. alekc73
    alekc73 29 October 2017 15: 34 New
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    "Poor" Canadians how they live. Soon everyone will leave for Russia bully
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim 29 October 2017 17: 01 New
      +5
      Quote: alekc73
      "Poor" Canadians how they live. Soon everyone will leave for Russia

      Dont worry.
      True, the school will always focus only on the worst, and not on the best. So they grow from them a dull gray mass.

      Fat Canadian Britney Spears will not conquer us. laughing
    2. shark
      shark 1 November 2017 16: 24 New
      +1
      figs need miserable here?
  2. the most important
    the most important 29 October 2017 15: 36 New
    14
    Everything can be ... Relatives left for emigration and constantly admire what kind of free country they have !!! But. at the same time, categorically refuses to talk on the phone about the country's internal problems and is shocked by our (low) prices for everything compared to their prices. But I believe that everything is prohibitively expensive ... And all because of the artificial exchange rate of the ruble ..
  3. marshes
    marshes 29 October 2017 15: 38 New
    +3
    I don’t know for Canada, but I didn’t meet those who went there anymore. Although there is one president of the Bazis construction company, a man with a Canadian passport has a business in Kazakhstan, past construction and Ay TISHniki.
    Another, a former professor at the Polytechnic, at the Department of Computer Engineering and Automated Control Systems, left with his family. Now he is working in California with a Canadian passport.
    Some Boloshak scholarship holders who donated real estate as collateral to the state will return more from the United States.
    Just for a living, you can live in the forest or go to the Hurons laughing , recall the times of Fenimore Cooper. laughing
  4. Masya masya
    Masya masya 29 October 2017 15: 40 New
    20
    Where he was born, there he came in handy ... or ... it’s good everywhere, where we are not ... yes
    1. Putinets
      Putinets 29 October 2017 16: 11 New
      16
      We are not in the zone, but it’s not good there
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 29 October 2017 16: 20 New
        12
        Quote: Putin
        We are not in the zone, but it’s not good there

        With what, I congratulate you ... love on the other hand ... do not renounce the sum and the prison ... repeat
      2. parusnik
        parusnik 29 October 2017 16: 22 New
        +1
        We are not in the zone, but it’s not good there
        ..Who how, and which institution ...
        1. Putinets
          Putinets 29 October 2017 17: 17 New
          +1
          somehow I don’t want either for the best or for the worst, but to promise myself ... To all the will of God. Kysmet
      3. CONTROL
        CONTROL 30 October 2017 10: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Putin
        We are not in the zone, but it’s not good there

        How is it not?
        Once a week - steadily, with service in the "inner temple"!
        --------------------------
        ... the truth - they promise to ban ... they say - we carry alcohol! to each convict in communion - a teaspoon of cahors diluted with water! Nightmare!!!
        ... The command of the "zone" categorically against Schaub "wards" thumped ...
  5. 32363
    32363 29 October 2017 15: 40 New
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    Many were never even tourists there, and most likely they will never get there, it is painfully hard to get a visa.

    flew without a visa in 2003, right now, what has changed, the whole plane was crammed with roofing felts by Indians, or Pakistani, in general, after an hour of flight the plane looked like a trash can.
    Toronto is a dirty city, bums on cortons are sleeping near skyscrapers, bums live in boxes at the pier .. an unpleasant sight against the backdrop of brilliant skyscrapers.
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 October 2017 15: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: 32363
      Toronto is a dirty city, bums on cortons are sleeping near skyscrapers, bums live in boxes at the pier .. an unpleasant sight against the backdrop of brilliant skyscrapers.

      And you? Of course there’s almost no such thing, practically socialism. But who pays for all this?
      1. 32363
        32363 29 October 2017 16: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: marshes

        And you? Of course there’s almost no such thing, practically socialism. But who pays for all this?

        Of course not, it happens that the garbage is thrown away wherever you want, but everything is cleaned the next day, it also shows that they are rarely and selectively cleaned.
        1. marshes
          marshes 29 October 2017 16: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: 32363
          Of course not, of course there is that the garbage is thrown away wherever you want but everything is cleaned the next day, it is also visible there that they are rarely and selectively cleaned.

          Yes there is dirt, but one fig is cleaner than the cities of the former USSR.
          In the USA there was, there is generally horror like ours, only the people are falsely friendly, but we don’t have such, except for the southern regions.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 31 October 2017 14: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: marshes
            Yes there is dirt, but one fig is cleaner than the cities of the former USSR.

            Well, put things in order, do not litter. And you will have clean cities in Kazakhstan.
    2. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 29 October 2017 19: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: 32363
      Toronto is a dirty city, bums on cortons are sleeping near skyscrapers, bums live in boxes at the pier .. an unpleasant sight against the backdrop of brilliant skyscrapers.

      Democracy, go it once and again fellow Where do we barbarians with our purity tongue hi
  6. HAM
    HAM 29 October 2017 15: 46 New
    17
    Alexei Serebryakov faded to Canada, and continues to act in Russia. Money does not smell and does not shake hands ..
    1. peta locksmith
      peta locksmith 30 October 2017 04: 44 New
      +4
      but he faded to Canada of silver to his ex-woman who had abandoned him and moved over the hill with a rich foreigner ... ce ... then the foreigner ... he bent over, here is Seyabryakov and was close to the used body of the used woman

      babosy in Russia and at the same time constantly, wherever possible, codifies Russia - as in it, in Russia, everything is bad, what are the strict orders
  7. Settlement Oparyshev
    Settlement Oparyshev 29 October 2017 15: 56 New
    18
    To abandon the Motherland and go somewhere, live among strangers and alien peoples, it is necessary to have great philanthropy. I do not have philanthropy, and Homeland is everything to me. By the way, by Feng Shui you need to eat those products that grow in your places with izmalstva living. Having left, it is against Nature and you will eat foods alien to the body.
    1. 32363
      32363 29 October 2017 16: 06 New
      +6
      Quote: pp to Oparyshev
      To abandon the Motherland and go somewhere, live among strangers and alien peoples, it is necessary to have great philanthropy. I do not have philanthropy, and Homeland is everything to me. By the way, by Feng Shui you need to eat those products that grow in your places with izmalstva living. Having left, it is against Nature and you will eat foods alien to the body.

      wassat meat bread and potato are everywhere of the same taste.
      1. Settlement Oparyshev
        Settlement Oparyshev 29 October 2017 16: 16 New
        +3
        you are mistaken, of the same taste, only pickles, lard and tomatoes.
        1. marshes
          marshes 29 October 2017 16: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: pp to Oparyshev
          you are mistaken, of the same taste, only pickles, lard and tomatoes.

          That’s why there are “Russian Stores” for those who want to have a taste of their native ones, the most stubborn houses make everything and treat their neighbors on the barbecue.
          In Germany I know that they buy a sheep’s head from the Turks laughing , there the slaughter of animals is strictly regulated.
      2. Freeman
        Freeman 29 October 2017 18: 12 New
        15
        32363 Today, 16: 06
        meat bread and potato everywhere has the same taste.

        That's about the bread - I never agree. There is no “black” rye bread familiar to the Russians beyond the hillock with a pleasant sourness, mixed in with “sourdough”.
        According to numerous recollections of Soviet specialists working abroad, there was no better gift than a loaf of “black” brought from Soyuz.
        letter of Count Sheremetyev to Alexander Pushkin.
        “It’s bad, brother, to live in Paris: there is nothing; You won’t interrogate black bread! ”
        .
      3. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 29 October 2017 19: 06 New
        +9
        Quote: 32363
        meat bread and potato are everywhere of the same taste.

        Lies! stop My potato from the garden is several times tastier than the western hvermera stuffed with nitrates yes
      4. Sverdlov
        Sverdlov 30 October 2017 11: 47 New
        +2
        Above Canada, the sky is blue, between the birches, slanting rains.
        Although it looks like Russia, it's still not Russia ...
        Dolsky.
        1. Freeman
          Freeman 30 October 2017 13: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Sverdlov
          Above Canada, the sky is blue, between the birches, slanting rains.
          Although it looks like Russia, it's still not Russia ...
          Dolsky.

          stop verses by Alexander Gorodnitsky, however
    2. marshes
      marshes 29 October 2017 16: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: pp to Oparyshev
      Nature and you will eat alien to the body products.

      What do you think in Canada, buckwheat is not found?
      This is not Papua New Guinea, where tourists go for breakfast laughing Breakfast from a Tourist. laughing
      1. Days
        Days 29 October 2017 22: 51 New
        +4
        What do you think in Canada, buckwheat is not found?

        And here it is not :) In the European Union, the USA, Canada and others like them, buckwheat is wrong: in the USSR it is customary to steam or fry it. And green buckwheat is unusual, therefore tasteless. And this is not to mention that they eat less buckwheat there, so this is a niche product that is not sold everywhere (where standard cereals usually do not have buckwheat, but lie on a rack with "healthy" food) and, as a result, are often more expensive.
    3. Greenwood
      Greenwood 29 October 2017 16: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: pp to Oparyshev
      To abandon the Motherland and go somewhere, live among strangers and alien peoples, this is necessary to have great philanthropy.
      Perhaps you just need to have a desire to live and work in a well-maintained country, and Russia and beautification are not very compatible concepts.
      Quote: pp to Oparyshev
      you need to eat those products that grow in your places with the boldness of living.
      Nonsense. The body easily gets used to new food. And if you wish, you can cook your favorite childhood dishes from a basic set of vegetables, fruits, meat, etc., sold in any country.
      1. kos2910
        kos2910 31 October 2017 07: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Greenwood
        Russia and beautification are not very compatible concepts.

        This is why? Do not like it - Vali, you do not have a homeland, free ...
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 29 October 2017 19: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: pp to Oparyshev
      To abandon the Motherland and go somewhere, live among strangers and alien peoples, it is necessary to have great philanthropy. I do not have philanthropy, and Homeland is everything to me. By the way, by Feng Shui you need to eat those products that grow in your places with izmalstva living. Having left, it is against Nature and you will eat foods alien to the body.

      The homeland must pay the debt in the form of military service and accurate tax payment. And after that, Any man is looking for a place where his family will be better protected and provided.
      1. raf
        raf 29 October 2017 22: 44 New
        +6
        The homeland must pay the debt in the form of military service and accurate tax payment. And after that, Any man is looking for a place where his family will be better protected and provided.
        To hell (garden plant) Homeland such debtors? Any man must protect and provide for his family in the homeland! By the way, I’m not offended, no one owes to anyone if the soul doesn’t lie for this, so you can bring it down without having served in the army! Love for the Motherland is not obligatory but a rush of soul!
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 30 October 2017 14: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: raf
          The homeland must pay the debt in the form of military service and accurate tax payment. And after that, Any man is looking for a place where his family will be better protected and provided.
          To hell (garden plant) Homeland such debtors? Any man must protect and provide for his family in the homeland! By the way, I’m not offended, no one owes to anyone if the soul doesn’t lie for this, so you can bring it down without having served in the army! Love for the Motherland is not obligatory but a rush of soul!

          I agree! Not enough has been done for the Motherland, if EVERYTHING has not been done !!! Those who think so pulled our country out of all the troubles and pulled out in the future. hi
  8. high
    high 29 October 2017 16: 17 New
    +8
    here are people who have 200 dollars a month, quietly get into debt in the form of credit cards, credit lines, etc. [/ I]
    It’s a lie, with such a salary, you have to stand with outstretched hands and not take loans .... my friend with a salary of $ 2000 in Montreal cannot take a loan, the bank does not give credit, the salary is small ...
    Rented apartment or mortgage = 1500[I]

    In Morneal, I will eat a three-room apartment in a seven-story building, in the center - $ 1000, while the electric power fee is $ 1000, there is no charge for water at all - there is a lot of water ....
    Strange article ...,
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 October 2017 16: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: alta
      here are people who have 200 dollars a month, quietly get into debt in the form of credit cards, credit lines, etc. [/ i]

      But in Kazakhstan, they rent a restaurant and throw Toy, a holiday, on credit, they often beat off with gifts, money, and organizers are also in the black.
    2. samarin1969
      samarin1969 29 October 2017 18: 40 New
      +5
      Of course a strange article. A friend from Israel, (a former Russian, a former Ukrainian), assured everyone with a glass of tea that they were dreaming of changing the Promised Land to Canada ... Probably a little drunk ... wink
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 October 2017 18: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: samarin1969
        Of course a strange article. A friend from Israel, (a former Russian, a former Ukrainian), assured everyone with a glass of tea that they were dreaming of changing the Promised Land to Canada ... Probably a little drunk ...

        There is such a thing, you even asked the forum users from Israel who was in Canada, most half will answer positively, some who will remember that their close relatives are already there.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 30 October 2017 19: 12 New
          +2
          The pattern is: who is well settled in Israel is even better
          arranged in Canada. Who flew in Israel, and in Canada
          turned out to be a loser.
          They’re leaving Israel for Canada not for money, but for a quiet life -
          no threat of war.
          Those who want "big money" go to California, New York, and not to Canada.
  9. Antares
    Antares 29 October 2017 16: 22 New
    +1
    Canada is more accessible to migrants than the United States. Such is the transit line. The Americans are joking with Canadians (they have something like Moldovan jokes), but they go to Canada on their own business, and Canadians work in the United States, as the possibilities are higher.
    As for migrants ex. The USSR is easier to Canada, get a passport (there are programs, they even pay benefits and provide housing) and then to the USA. But despite the fact that Canada is a northern country, the mentality here is completely different. Not at all Russian ...
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 29 October 2017 16: 24 New
    +1
    Everyone makes his own choice, as he pays for it.
    ... Really, everyone chooses for himself ...
  11. polpot
    polpot 29 October 2017 16: 41 New
    +6
    Thank you for the wonderful article. A friend from a university in Canada ran away from lesbians a week later and looked at crowds of gays. She graduated from the institute at home. She works as a veterinarian and everything is fine with men
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 October 2017 17: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: polpot
      Thank you for the wonderful article. A friend from a university in Canada ran away from lesbians a week later and looked at crowds of gays. She graduated from the institute at home. She works as a veterinarian and everything is fine with men

      Do not know how they breed there? By the reception of migrants.
      1. polpot
        polpot 29 October 2017 17: 46 New
        +3
        Thank you laugh
      2. long in stock.
        long in stock. 29 October 2017 18: 49 New
        +2
        by budding ... how how ..
        1. marshes
          marshes 29 October 2017 18: 57 New
          0
          Quote: long in stock.
          by budding ... how how ..

          It’s good that it’s not a division, mindful of the glorious series like Stargate replicators. laughing
  12. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 29 October 2017 17: 39 New
    +4
    After reading the article, to be honest, I was interested in the answer to another question: what for the author immigrated to Canada? How many times does he plan to do back and forth?
    1. True
      True 30 October 2017 13: 21 New
      +2
      According to the editorial notes, the author is a starball!
  13. high
    high 29 October 2017 18: 23 New
    +6
    Quote: alta
    here are people who have 200 dollars a month, quietly get into debt in the form of credit cards, credit lines, etc. [/ I]
    It’s a lie, with such a salary, you have to stand with outstretched hands and not take loans .... my friend with a salary of $ 2000 in Montreal cannot take a loan, the bank does not give credit, the salary is small ...
    Rented apartment or mortgage = 1500
    In Morneal, I will eat a three-room apartment in a seven-story building, in the center - $ 1000, while the electric power fee is $ 1000, there is no charge for water at all - there is a lot of water ....
    Strange article ...,

    In the days of the Internet you can’t lie ... the author of the article writes: people who have $ 200 a month quietly go into debt[I]

    I open the site of Canada: It can be seen that in different provinces there is a different minimum.
    On average, perhaps 11 dollars. Here in Quebec, where I live, it's 10.75 CAD (as of February 2017).
    If you work 40 hours a week year-round, you will earn Canadian $ 22360.
    This is the amount before taxes. On hand in Quebec will go 19 thousand.
    Or about 1600 dollars a month. (not 200 dollars !!!)
    In other provinces, more, but housing is more expensive there. A normal apartment with 1 bedroom and 1 living room, that is, a 2-room apartment by our standards, can be found in Montreal for $ 700-800 a month.

    https://immigrant.today/article/11713-minimalnaja
    -zarplata-v-kanade-v-2017-mozhno-li-na-nee-prozhi
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    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 29 October 2017 19: 08 New
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      Quote: alta
      In other provinces, more, but housing is more expensive there. A normal apartment with 1 bedroom and 1 living room, that is, a 2-room apartment by our standards, can be found in Montreal for $ 700-800 a month.

      Well, where we are not ... winked
    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 20: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: alta
      In the days of the Internet you can’t lie ...

      Internet times didn’t add anyone’s brains!
      Quote: alta
      If you work 40 hours a week year-round, you will earn Canadian $ 22360.
      This is the amount before taxes. On hand in Quebec will go 19 thousand.
      Or about 1600 dollars a month. (not 200 dollars !!!)

      The author writes about 30000 = $ 2500 per month after taxes.
      And then it deducts the rent, car leasing, insurance and other obligatory payments ... As a result, it gets $ 200 "clean"
    3. Awaz
      Awaz 29 October 2017 21: 43 New
      0
      you are not even friends with arithmetic at the level of grade 4 of the Russian school.
    4. un-e
      un-e 30 October 2017 16: 42 New
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      1600-800 = 800, not 200 of course, but already close ....
  14. creak
    creak 29 October 2017 19: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: Antares
    But although Canada is a northern country, the mentality here is completely different. Not at all Russian...

    The mentality there must think of everything Canadian - why should he be different if Canadians live there, and not Russians .... But in another the northern country of Finland, the mentality is completely Finnish - but also not Russian, but not Canadian ..
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 31 October 2017 14: 50 New
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      Quote: ranger
      But in another northern country of Finland

      Canada and Finland can be called northern countries only conditionally. Where the bulk of Canadians and Finns live - the climate is like in Sochi, and where the climate is like in Siberia - there is a deserted desert in Canada and Finland.
  15. ikrut
    ikrut 29 October 2017 19: 18 New
    +3
    You did not read very carefully. 200 dollars a month for a living, according to the author, remains from a salary of 50000 dollars a year after paying all taxes and mandatory expenses such as insurance, a communal apartment, etc. This is not much. For the sake of that kind of money they don’t immigrate, I think.
    1. Ncplc
      Ncplc 30 October 2017 20: 06 New
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      Comrade is cunning, if he lives alone then why such a large apartment, and if not one then where did his wife’s salary go ??
  16. Cadet
    Cadet 29 October 2017 19: 44 New
    +1
    I tried to talk with classmates who came from Germany on a topic of migrants in Germany, they are silent and translate the topic. Better to live in your homeland.
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 October 2017 20: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Cadet
      Better live in your homeland

      And our former tattoos do what they have been to Kazakhstan.
      On the right hand
      1. Cadet
        Cadet 29 October 2017 20: 05 New
        +1
        Suddenly with a tattoo, did not meet.
        1. marshes
          marshes 29 October 2017 20: 11 New
          +1
          Quote: Cadet
          Suddenly with a tattoo, did not meet.

          I can also add that those who were born in Kazakhstan and visit relatives visit, but those who are not born can be said to have roots.
          The Kazakh spouse himself is an ethnic German, sisters in Germany and in the United States. laughing as well as the arrival of relatives. From Germany in a year from the USA, every five years. With the ensuing consequences. laughing
          1. Cadet
            Cadet 29 October 2017 20: 17 New
            +1
            Relatives used to rarely come from Germany, now they also come and miss each year. From us to Kazakhstan is also not far).
            1. marshes
              marshes 29 October 2017 20: 28 New
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              Quote: Cadet
              Relatives used to rarely come from Germany, now they also come and miss each year. From us to Kazakhstan is also not far).

              We are mostly in a year, closer and cheaper. We have open visas. The spouse even more often travels there on business. The niece of the elder brother, asperantura, you can tell how the degrees are there, he often ends up visiting them.
              We live in peace, only with the Americans the problem is expensive and long. Although the Germans have no problems.
              Our family is international, we even visit Israel. laughing
              1. Cadet
                Cadet 29 October 2017 20: 30 New
                +1
                Well done keep it up
                1. marshes
                  marshes 29 October 2017 20: 33 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Cadet
                  Well done keep it up

                  And here I was "recorded" in the Kazakh nationalist. laughing
                  1. Cadet
                    Cadet 29 October 2017 20: 39 New
                    +1
                    Among my acquaintances and friends, I have enough Kazakhs, sometimes it’s better to turn to them for help than let's say to our Russians, sometimes there are problems with the history of the country or other issues, but we immediately translate it and understand that we won’t be offended by each other because of the little things. Kazakhs have very strong family ties and hospitality.
                    1. marshes
                      marshes 29 October 2017 20: 48 New
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                      Quote: Cadet
                      that we won’t be offended by each other because of trifles.

                      But here we “butt”, as in life if you give slack just then they won’t reckon with a person. Life is harsh. This is not a world of pink unicorns.
                      12 years of military service, plus three before this cadet, Suvorov.
                      And the rest of life.
                      1. Cadet
                        Cadet 29 October 2017 20: 55 New
                        +2
                        From the last argument, we laughed for a long time, right up to tears, a Kazakh friend began to assure us that the Allied landings took place in Normandy in August 45))) they argued for a long time, then I could not restrain myself and I say - you imagine the French surprise when the Allies landed and the war already ended in Europe, but then the Allies again smashed everything, but there are no Germans))). He later admitted his mistake, he simply does not like to lose arguments, even if he is not right.
      2. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 22: 01 New
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        Quote: marshes
        On the right hand

        I do not understand what is shown there ...
  17. intuzazist
    intuzazist 29 October 2017 19: 50 New
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    Quote: 32363
    meat bread and potato everywhere the same taste

    Well do not tell !!! I had a chance not to live long in one Asian country, and so there, even in appearance, the potato was not the same as in Russia! I don’t speak for bread! The locals don’t eat it at all, and the toast is disgusting ........
    1. pRaff
      pRaff 30 October 2017 13: 26 New
      0
      I agree! My wife and I lived for two years in Malaysia, so I could eat the bread there only on the second day - after drying in the air. And to warm bread in toasters is generally some strange food perversion ...
      And the cottage cheese was regularly made from milk, it is very tasty, Australian there. I have never tried such milk anywhere else :)
  18. god-given
    god-given 29 October 2017 20: 18 New
    +1
    I would read about the pros
  19. high
    high 29 October 2017 20: 24 New
    +3
    By the way, Canada’s rating of living standards: 3 place in the world, and Russia 90 place ...
    1. long in stock.
      long in stock. 29 October 2017 21: 08 New
      +1
      and in terms of fun?
    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 29 October 2017 22: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: alta
      By the way, Canada’s rating of living standards: 3 place in the world, and Russia 90 place ...

      There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
  20. marshes
    marshes 29 October 2017 20: 59 New
    0
    Cadet,
    Your friend is a layman in history, you still haven’t come to Aposlya, that historian with a degree and the ability to visit closed archives and libraries.
  21. Awaz
    Awaz 29 October 2017 21: 41 New
    +1
    in principle, such a situation is possible. My friend lived in the USA for ten years (he left for the dashing 90s). Now he has returned, has taken root here again and is glad. He lived in a good area with white people. Yes, beautiful and clean, but it only seems. For everything you have to pay and pay a lot. However, beautiful and clean in white and tourist areas. And so, getting into the hinterland, you see the same thing as in Russia.
    In principle, I agree with him, after I began to travel to the EU not in tour zones but simply visiting all sorts of different and tourist and not so regions. Where the state is richer, everything is fine, but Italy Spain or Portugal - the countries are not well-groomed enough. And the standard of living is not very different from Russian.
    And when in Norway for a liter of beer and a bowl of chips in a regular eatery they take 6 thousand in rubles if you really understand that everything in the world is relatively
  22. Old26
    Old26 30 October 2017 00: 54 New
    +1
    A bit strange article. A classmate has been living there for 20 years, but his alignment was somewhat different
  23. tracer
    tracer 30 October 2017 03: 32 New
    +6
    This nagging losers twice. He is right only in his bad experience. "Ravshan" he was here, working for the "Dzhamshutov". And I wanted to ride a BMW for the same loan money that no one gave him. Yes, it is necessary to plow here, but to know the language, at least at the basic level. I guarantee that the author has not learned it for 7 years. A couple of phrases can and knows from which the speakers of the tongue pass out and do not understand why he asks "for the kingdom". The average salary in Canada is 60. This is closer to the minimum. At whom his own business spins about 000. Programmers from fifty years after institutes in years. Drove by long range from 150 and above, and if your car is up to 000. Doctors all have less than 60 thousand. A nurse who divides injections into a vein (higher nursing class) 100-000 dollars. Continue? Each road makes its own way, even in Canada, even in Russia, and even in Africa. By the way, in a personal conversation with Morgan Freeman (a Hollywood actor) at his house in Charleston, he told me that he was constantly in love with Putin and Russia. Well, of course, the camera said that the Russians attacked his country. THERE ARE THE GAME RULES. Without this, there is simply no way in that “elite ..” Eh, the author, there wasn’t enough strength in you. Good luck at home .... And
    1. True
      True 30 October 2017 13: 32 New
      +2
      Yes, he was nowhere. There is a whole department of such "authors".
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 1 November 2017 22: 45 New
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      Tracer

      You are an American. What are you hanging noodles here?

      I confirm word for word that the author talks about Toronto.

      Look at the cost of housing and understand for yourself.

      Toronto car insurance for a newbie or new expat is $ 400-500 per month for the first 4-5 years.
      Housing from 1300. They will ask for payment for half a year in advance.

      Salary is 40-50 per annum.
      No one is a software engineer on the move.
      An engineer is generally a licensed specialty.

      Clever smart confident, no one is waiting. There isn’t enough room for yours.
  24. Dobron
    Dobron 30 October 2017 03: 36 New
    +4
    Dear “author,” you’ll accelerate even a little. I live in Montreal, I pay a mortgage for a detached house $ 750, Insurance for two cars $ 348 for two years, and the women you're right are scary and not well-groomed
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 1 November 2017 22: 20 New
      0
      Have you heard anything about the cost of housing in Toronto?

      The author is absolutely in the subject. I confirm word for word what is said.

      What is happening in Montreal do not know. And who is going there? Everyone in Toronto settles.
  25. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 30 October 2017 04: 56 New
    +2
    She lives the same way around: work is a family. If you want to live better (everyone understands his own), you need to work harder and learn to improve your level. And so all the same. I live well in Russia and can compare with other countries.
  26. Nix1986
    Nix1986 30 October 2017 07: 14 New
    +1
    One more thing - yellowstone is craving in the USA, in Europe there are only gays, in Russia it is the best. I know a few people who went there and no one complains. There is a category of people where everything is bad, so maybe the reason is not in place ?!
  27. Sadam
    Sadam 30 October 2017 07: 20 New
    +1
    eyes unprotected))))
    Yes, a normal country - right that you have to drag your woman and English. confirmed engineers do not have less than 100k per year. mostly people with no language or family return. Well, the initial acclimatization is stress.
    1. Lunic
      Lunic 30 October 2017 08: 03 New
      0
      I agree completely. I live 2,5 hours from Montreal, but in the USA. I have been to Canada on three business trips in the last 7 years.
      Montreal is a beautiful and convenient city of a European look (compared to the USA). Life is expensive there, but if not lazy then you can live very well for your own. The people are friendly, the cops are very polite and will always help. Girls are much more beautiful than in the states although they are so far from our Slavs ....
      I visited other cities in Canada, there is poverty and shine ... By the way, about cleanliness: I saw dirt / garbage only in the alleys that are used as technical access roads ... Like backyards of shops and restaurants. The same picture was observed (4 years) in the beautiful Seattle of Washington in the USA.
      1. Sadam
        Sadam 30 October 2017 08: 14 New
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        In Montreal, I don’t like that the nationalists live in Quebec without a french.
        Seattle so dirty especially if after Vancouver Sun)).
        also one friend returned after 10 years ... he didn’t learn a language, didn’t confirm it ... he worked according to Russian advertisements without a language ... returned to Moscow, he writes like a happy person ... he became a patriot)))
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 30 October 2017 22: 59 New
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        You can ask.

        Not lazy how many hours a week? Probably 70?
        And $ 15 an hour?
        Not?

        Ah well done ......
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 30 October 2017 23: 02 New
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          Engineers how much?
          100k?
          And drag your woman.!

          Flag in your hands, a drum on your neck.

          Drag several women at once ...
  28. Rey_ka
    Rey_ka 30 October 2017 08: 08 New
    +1
    Well, we're just used to complaining! And all of Russia has been living for 20 years out of the blue: outside the window is wild capitalism, but we live by the sensations as under Brezhnev! When we understand that there is no turning back, maybe then something will change !?
  29. V. Ushakov
    V. Ushakov 30 October 2017 11: 56 New
    +2
    H-Yes.
    Frozen for 26 years, since 1986.
    After the first call to the United States and a walk around Hollywood Los Angeles, I can’t drive me there (for permanent residence) with a stick.
    It took about 1 (one) hour to stay in this "paradise" ...
  30. True
    True 30 October 2017 13: 07 New
    +2
    The author of the video forgot ...
  31. faiver
    faiver 30 October 2017 17: 29 New
    +1
    embellished linden for cheers patriots ... hi
  32. gladcu2
    gladcu2 30 October 2017 19: 47 New
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    All is correct. Neither object nor add.

    It just so happened that I have more friends who left than those who remained.

    At the expense of women is also true. Asian truth is slimmer and more accommodating.

    And there are simply no others. Unless of course for the money. And when you get acquainted it’s very nice to know what your friend lives for. May be a representative of an ancient profession.
  33. meGrail
    meGrail 31 October 2017 01: 55 New
    +1
    For a Canadian, a salary of $ 50,000 per year (before taxes) is almost the ultimate dream.

    The median salary in the Channel for 2016 is 50 thousand, i.e. 50% gets more. (unfortunately I can’t insert the link, you can find "canada median salary 2016" yourself)
    So the author is a slander and a liar
    Comrades who transferred this nonsense to such a reputable site are provocateurs and recent liberals.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 1 November 2017 22: 22 New
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      Hehe.

      Come over. Work as an engineer.

      Your 50 to you just dream to see.
      1. meGrail
        meGrail 8 November 2017 22: 42 New
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        Thank you, I get a little less in Belarus, why should I?
  34. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 2 November 2017 06: 17 New
    +1
    Judging by the article, the dude came to Canada to “lead” and complains that there is no where to put his “leaders”, but there are not enough workers. Obviously, not finding a convenient “hand-made chair” under his ass and left in “insult”. It is not familiar to the heart that the “leading chair”, and even in a foreign country, must be “earned” by rising from the “bottom” by the career ladder. Well, what has returned, that means in Russia there has once again become one “leader" in Russia.
  35. Comrade
    Comrade 5 November 2017 05: 04 New
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    The one who wrote this never lived in Canada, so he does not know the Canadian life.