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President of Kazakhstan signed a decree on the transition of the alphabet into Latin

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Kazakhstan leader Nursultan Nazarbayev signed a decree on transitioning the Kazakh alphabet from Cyrillic to Latin before 2025, reports TASS with reference to the website of the President of the Republic.




In order to ensure the translation of the alphabet of the Kazakh language from Cyrillic to the Latin script, I decide: to approve the attached alphabet of the Kazakh language, based on the Latin script, to the Government of the Republic of Kazakhstan: to form a National Commission for the translation of the alphabet of the Kazakh language into the Latin script; to provide a phased translation of the Kazakh alphabet into Latin graphics up to 2025,
says the decree.

It is reported that the decree comes into force from the date of publication.

A new draft of the Kazakh alphabet in Latin contains 32 letters, the sounds specific to Kazakh speech are indicated by letters with apostrophes.

President of Kazakhstan signed a decree on the transition of the alphabet into Latin


In April of this year, Nazarbayev instructed the government to draw up a timetable for the transition of the Kazakh alphabet to the Latin alphabet. At the same time, the head of state assured that with the transition of the Kazakh alphabet to the Latin alphabet, the country would not abandon the Russian language and the use of the Cyrillic alphabet.
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  1. Wild_grey_wolf
    Wild_grey_wolf 27 October 2017 12: 28
    +7
    Hmm, horror, nothing more to do.
    Thumb up sign once.
    1. The black
      The black 27 October 2017 12: 30
      27
      With YOUR alphabet let them do what they want. Well this is how much dough it takes to rewrite everything and everything, replace documents, reprint laws, books, and textbooks. Two-thirds of books will remain unwritten and will be inaccessible to the younger generation in the future. This is called - the woman had no worries, but she got a piglet for herself!
      1. cniza
        cniza 27 October 2017 12: 34
        15
        I repeat, Nazarbayev wants to leave a deeper trace in history, but he does not care about the problems of people.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 27 October 2017 13: 02
          13
          Power is sweet - I want Nazarbayev and his clan to stay in it longer! So he rowing in Kazakhstan quietly from Russia (and Russians) away - to the delight and in favor of its enemies.
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            1. Antianglosax
              Antianglosax 27 October 2017 14: 56
              +7
              The photo is not with North Korean generals ?! laughing
              1. Lycan
                Lycan 27 October 2017 15: 45
                +2
                With them. Longtime meme.
        2. dorz
          dorz 27 October 2017 13: 03
          +8
          Nothing wrong with that. In the 23rd year, my children will only finish school, and at 25m you can go to study again sad
        3. LSA57
          LSA57 27 October 2017 13: 59
          +7
          Quote: cniza
          Nazarbayev wants to leave a deeper trace in history, but he does not care about people's problems.

          East is a delicate matter...
          Hi smile hi
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        5. Cutter
          Cutter 28 October 2017 01: 11
          +6
          However, no one squeals that the Allies betrayed ??? In !!! We switched to another language. "Congratulations" - those who do not "love" this country much --- BELARUS !!! Do not love, do not kiss ...
      2. Smog
        Smog 27 October 2017 13: 32
        +7
        Quote: Black
        Well this is how much dough will go

        Directly removed from the tongue. The Kazakh land is rich, oh rich ...... Everyone and everyone .....
      3. LSA57
        LSA57 27 October 2017 13: 57
        15
        Quote: Black
        Well this is how much dough it takes to rewrite everything and everything, replace documents, reprint laws, books, and textbooks. Two-thirds of books will remain unwritten and will be inaccessible to the younger generation in the future.

        and how many unwritten? but he wants to push his story further. here is the opinion of the Baltic about the same
      4. Wild_grey_wolf
        Wild_grey_wolf 27 October 2017 14: 03
        +1
        Quote: Black
        With YOUR alphabet let them do what they want. Well this is how much dough it takes to rewrite everything and everything, replace documents, reprint laws, books, and textbooks. Two-thirds of books will remain unwritten and will be inaccessible to the younger generation in the future. This is called - the woman had no worries, but she got a piglet for herself!


        This is for you with your Alphabet, but I’m learning to write again, for example, for me it’s going to school.
      5. avt
        avt 27 October 2017 14: 52
        +6
        Quote: Black
        With YOUR alphabet let them do what they want.

        good To the captain, mana! Nada is still a Latin number to enter and consider chopsticks. bully
      6. xetai9977
        xetai9977 27 October 2017 16: 04
        +8
        This is the sovereign right of the Kazakhs. They are free to accept whatever alphabet they want. Latin in any step forward. Almost all Turkic countries switched to Latin, with the exception of Kyrgyzstan. The integration of Turkic countries is only a matter of time. I wish success to the Kazakhs!
        1. bddrus
          bddrus 27 October 2017 16: 48
          +3
          and what is ahead then? What is the Latin ahead of the Cyrillic alphabet? unification of all? globalization?
        2. avt
          avt 27 October 2017 16: 51
          +5
          Quote: xetai9977
          Integration of Turkic countries is only a matter of time

          bully Oh well. Just exactly the same as our suckers dreaming of Pan-Slavism. bully You can’t even see Greater Azerbaijan like your own ears, since there is neither Stalin nor the USSR, and for Stalin after the war this project turned out to be unbearable.And with regards to Turkey, Erdogan has to do with your pan-Turkism in the phalos, he is dreaming of the neo-Ottoman Empire. What is called - feel the difference.
          Quote: xetai9977
          Almost all Turkic countries switched to Latin,

          Now in Moscow would be to mow the shopping center ,, Moscow "and ,, Birdie" like Cherkizon and the stalls near the metro, so immediately go to the Roman tsifiri, especially in Azerbaijan. bully Well, in general, I really join

          Quote: xetai9977
          I wish success to the Kazakhs!

          Especially in training specialists for the future ,, space power " bully
          1. Karen
            Karen 28 October 2017 10: 42
            0
            Quote:
            Especially in training specialists for the future ,, space power "bully
            With experts, their affairs are put on the right track: from around the world they hire for a lot of money .... There the real leader is sitting ...
        3. Qazaq 1974
          Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 21: 40
          +2
          Thank you brother!!!! Rahmet !!!!
        4. Tolmatch
          Tolmatch 27 October 2017 22: 39
          +1
          And this is a step forward to what, let me curiosity? Sign thinking is one of the most important components of thinking, as such. Generations of Kazakhs have already grown up, whose symbolic thinking has developed in the format of writing and reading the words of the Kazakh language in Cyrillic. And also, what do you mean by "integration of the Turkic countries". By the way, let me remind you that Kazakhstan is only the Türks, but also many other nations. Even a political leader, speaking to the people, says: "Dear Kazakhstanis" ...
        5. axiles100682
          axiles100682 28 October 2017 11: 36
          0
          Why not in Arabic script right away?
        6. haenx
          haenx 28 October 2017 15: 58
          +2
          disagree with you. in Cyrillic written many technical medical fundamental monographs, magazines, books. If we lose contact with the Cyrillic, a technological failure will occur. Our country is, therefore, in the last position of technological development.
          1. avt
            avt 28 October 2017 17: 11
            0
            Quote: haenx
            disagree with you. in Cyrillic written many technical medical fundamental monographs, magazines, books. If we lose contact with the Cyrillic, a technological failure will occur.
            Well, at least ONE from the crowd rejoicing in type
            Quote: Semurg
            As with the transfer of our capital, there was a lot of “barking”, and the caravan was on. Now we have the beautiful Astana, which has solved a number of our problems. The transition to the Latin alphabet will also provide a solution to many parallel problems.

            Thinking about the practical consequences of this event in the short and medium term!
            Quote: haenx
            If we lose contact with the Cyrillic, a technological failure will occur.

            I’ll clarify - in fact with education in Russian. Since the eradication of illiteracy after 1917 and the subsequent development of education up to the highest professional, technical, was carried out precisely on it and within the framework of the Red Empire-USSR. But in short, can you create by the efforts of ONE Kazakhstan a new education system, and even at a level not lower than the Soviet one in the new alphabet ..... Well, wait and see. Flag in hand - surprise the World and the City bully
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 27 October 2017 12: 37
      18
      Well, gentlemen, Kazakhs sympathize with you, speak and think in Kazakh and Russian, and you will write in Latin, just don’t break your fingers. laughing
      1. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 27 October 2017 12: 44
        14
        First, the alphabet will be abolished, then the language, ........ The prologue is painfully familiar ....
        I would advise them to immediately switch to Chinese ....
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 27 October 2017 12: 50
          +6
          The famous Uzbek poet and dissident Muhammad Salih, who lives in Istanbul, turned to the leadership and residents of Kazakhstan about the transition to the Latin alphabet, urging them not to repeat the “Uzbek error”. According to Salih, when switching to the Latin alphabet, Uzbekistan did not take into account the problem of diphthongs, syngarmonisms and adopted the "alphabet with a flaw."
          “We complained that the Cyrillic alphabet does not reflect the sigmonalistic features of the Uzbek language (harmony of vowels), in addition, we also found letters such as“ щ “,“ ч “in Cyrillic spelling and used this alphabet from 1939 to 90 of the last century. When switching to Latin, Uzbek officials also did not solve this problem, ”Salih said.
          According to Muhammad Salih, the decision to switch to the Latin alphabet in Uzbekistan was made spontaneously and the Latin never entered the daily life of the Uzbek people. However, on the whole, Salih supports the idea of ​​Latinization, emphasizing that it will help the main goal - "unification of the Turkic world."( laughing )
          Uzbekistan has been switching to the Latin alphabet since 1920, but even by 2015 the Latin alphabet was not introduced in all spheres of life of the Uzbek society. Only the sphere of education and partly office work have been translated into Latin. The print media still use the Cyrillic alphabet, and both Cyrillic and Latin are used on television and on the Internet. For 97 years, Uzbekistan has not completed the transition to the Latin alphabet.
          Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2017/09/21/uzbekskiy-
          poet-kazahstanu-ne-povtoryayte-nashu-oshibku-s-la
          tinicey? utm_referrer = https% 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com
          1. Bulrumeb
            Bulrumeb 27 October 2017 15: 07
            +1
            on the whole, Salih supports the idea of ​​Latinization, emphasizing that it will help the main goal - “unification of the Turkic world”

            yeah, just like this specifically Kazakhs and Uzbeks for unification and did not have enough
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      3. Qazaq 1974
        Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 21: 43
        +1
        We will write in Kazakh in Latin letters, and doctors write in Latin, so you know!
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 27 October 2017 13: 40
      +2
      There isn’t enough time to come up with your own alphabet and script, what can you do? That's why they are descendants of Genghis Khan.
      1. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 27 October 2017 14: 59
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        There isn’t enough time to come up with your own alphabet and script, what can you do? That's why they are descendants of Genghis Khan.

        At what a fright descendants laughing ? Speaking specifically about the Kazakhs, they even never had their own statehood ... Either as part of the horde, or Russia. And everything that they invented for themselves there does not stand up to any criticism.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 27 October 2017 15: 28
          +4
          I will say more - they only became Kazakhs under the Union, before they were northern Kirghiz.
          1. Aposlya
            Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 18
            +3
            Quote: Doliva63
            I will say more - they only became Kazakhs under the Union, before they were northern Kirghiz.

            Well, actually, Kazakhs have been calling themselves COSSACS all their lives. The word kazakhi is already a Russian tracing-paper introduced by the decision of the Council of People's Commissars in 1936 ... And by the way, Kazakhs have never been called "northern Kyrgyz", learn the materiel! wink
            1. turcom
              turcom 28 October 2017 06: 39
              0
              It was originally formed as the Kyrgyz Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic as part of the RSFSR on August 26, 1920 with its capital in Orenburg. In February 1925, the Orenburg region was withdrawn from the Kyrgyz Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and transferred to the RSFSR, and the capital was moved to Kyzyl-Orda (1925), then to Alma-Ata (1929).

              As a result of the national-state demarcation of Central Asia in 1924-1925, all Kazakh lands were united. In 1925, the Kyrgyz Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was renamed the Kazak Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. On July 20, 1930, Karakalpakia was separated from it to the RSFSR, later transferred to the Uzbek SSR. On February 5, 1936, the Kazak Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was renamed the Kazakh Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic.

              On December 5, 1936, the Kazakh Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was given the status of a union republic.
        2. Aposlya
          Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 20
          +4
          Quote: Antianglosaks
          Speaking specifically about the Kazakhs, they even never had their own statehood ... Either as part of the horde, or Russia.

          The Kazakhs had their own statehood for the first time back in the days of the Turkic Kaganate ... Well, the Horde is the state of the Kazakhs, the ulus of Genghis Khan and Jochi Khan are Kazakh tribes! The same founder of the Golden Horde is buried near Zhezkazgan (KZ) ...
          1. Qazaq 1974
            Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 21: 46
            +2
            do not pay attention to these ignoramuses, brother !!!!
            1. Rock2
              Rock2 28 October 2017 00: 28
              0
              That's how they lose friends !!! ...
              1. axiles100682
                axiles100682 28 October 2017 11: 40
                0
                Yes, yes, and they’re rubbing friends, Russian-speaking neighbors and, in general, the Russian-speaking population. But our oralmans are untouchable.
  2. Coconut
    Coconut 27 October 2017 12: 28
    +8
    Well, at least kill, I don’t understand why the hell does he need it ???
    1. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 27 October 2017 12: 32
      +4
      Quote: Coco
      ... why the hell does he need it ???
      At the same time, back in April, Nazarbayev assured that Kazakhstan would not give up the Russian language and the use of the Cyrillic alphabet, according to the National News Service.
      - Why then, except how to wait and look at all this remains ??? Here is some kind of writing they will appear ...
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 27 October 2017 13: 43
        0
        I wonder how they will have the capital “S” and soft “Sh” in the Latin alphabet. laughing Or, as Latin write -
        - Shymkent, for example? belay
        1. Zalym
          Zalym 27 October 2017 18: 47
          +1
          Quote: siberalt
          will be uppercase "s"


          Y

          Quote: siberalt
          and soft "W"


          What is soft w? wassat

          Quote: siberalt
          Or, as Latin write -
          - Shymkent, for example


          S'ymkent
        2. Aposlya
          Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 22
          +2
          Read the article carefully ... or look at the book - can I see a fig? Sound Y - Y.
          Shymkent = S'ymkent ....
        3. Siban
          Siban 27 October 2017 21: 27
          +1
          Quote: Black
          This is called - the woman had no worries, but she got a piglet for herself!
          Are you talking about "Crimea" repeat
          Kazakhs actually seriously thought about switching to the Latin alphabet exactly after the "Russian Spring" in Ukraine. Talks of translating the alphabet into Latin were long since 90's, but they remained conversations. All was left for later. It was clearly not up to that. But here, unexpectedly, “CrimeaNash”, “Novorossiya” happened, which made me look at the situation from a completely different perspective. The country's leadership was unpleasantly surprised not so much by the explicit intervention of the "hand of Moscow", but by the positive reaction of a large part of the Kazakhs. Highlighted the strength and power of the Russian state propaganda. At one time, Mustafa Kemal switched to Latin, successfully led Turkey away from Islam, and in the Republic of Kazakhstan they want to cut off Russian influence. The Kremlin’s actions in Ukraine have clearly shown what inaction can lead to in this matter ...
          Quote: siberalt
          how to write Latin -
          - Shymkent, for example?
          I no longer like the way Kazakhstan will be spelled in Latin. The old version, I see more beautiful than with the letter "Q, q"
          1. Qazaq 1974
            Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 21: 48
            +2
            but I like the new option!)) What do you want ?! it’s for us to live with the new alphabet, and you will forget tomorrow!
            1. axiles100682
              axiles100682 28 October 2017 11: 43
              +1
              You, and in the course of time it’s time for us to say goodbye to the beloved and dear homeland, and return to the historical ...
    2. The black
      The black 27 October 2017 12: 34
      +6
      By the way ... Kazakhs are not pioneers. The first was Uzbekistan, but he could not abandon the Cyrillic alphabet. The process of a complete transition to the Latin alphabet has dragged on for a quarter of a century in Uzbekistan. Due to delays, the deadline for transferring to the Latin alphabet was first postponed to 2005, and then to 2010. Perhaps, realizing that all the deadlines have expired, and things are still there, Uzbek officials have recently been trying not to touch on this topic publicly.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 27 October 2017 13: 11
        +7
        In Uzbekistan, in remote villages, young people are already completely illiterate - they can neither read nor write at all! And they are so illiterate - from distant villages - for 15 years they have been coming to us in Russia to work as migrant workers!
        The main departure of the bulk of the urban population to work in the Russian Federation and other countries in Uzbekistan has long ended. The ratio of urban to villagers among migrant workers from Uzbekistan to the Russian Federation is approximately equal to 1:10 or 1: 9
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 27 October 2017 13: 36
          0
          And what about the city? Do they work in their cities and do not go to work?
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 27 October 2017 15: 33
            +3
            alexmach
            And what about the city? Do they work in their cities and do not go to work?

            Urban travel, of course, but to a large extent less than in the beginning and what became of it later - from rural regions. In rural areas in the outback, schools have long been closed and now they are almost completely gone. Even the machine operator must be competent. Illiteracy is also not needed in their Uzbek cities. There are enough of their marginals in cities.
            In general, for 25 years, Russian and Russian-speaking people left Uzbekistan (their Uzbek nationalist marketers simply squeezed them out), enterprises with mainly Russian and Russian-speaking personnel closed, and there is also nothing special for citizens to pay for services. So ordinary people live, sliding down the social ladder. One way out is guest workers. One Uzbek guest worker in Russia can earn a month to support 20 unemployed relatives in Uzbekistan.
            Uzbek woman working in a grocery store as a weighing machine on an automatic scale. I personally boasted several years ago that in six months she would earn in Russia a new whole house in her homeland and would successfully marry at the same time.
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 27 October 2017 14: 49
          +5
          In fact of the matter. Uzbeks are a thousand-year-old civilization that has given the world great scientists and thinkers, which Kazakhs did not have offspring (only without offense). The tongue is boneless, but it can be trimmed at the root (which makes the Latin foreign to it) and you get the "Babylonian syndrome." Any "attempt" on the language of their ancestors leads to the degradation and disappearance of the nation, state and the blur of self-identification of a single community of a particular people, as such.
          1. Aposlya
            Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 23
            +1
            What are the Uzbek thinkers that are not from Kazakh clans or tribes? You will be very surprised! laughing
            1. Zalym
              Zalym 27 October 2017 20: 25
              +2
              In fact, almost all of these scientists were Persians.
        3. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 27 October 2017 15: 09
          +1
          this despite the fact that it was the Uzbeks who were considered the most civilized
        4. Qazaq 1974
          Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 21: 49
          +1
          I saw guys in Orsk .. not able to read and write!
    3. Per se.
      Per se. 27 October 2017 12: 44
      +8
      Quote: Coco
      I do not understand why the hell he needs it ???
      So, they will be closer to the "true civilization", to the West, like, one more "tse Europe" ... Well, Russia, it should be understood, they will not have anything here, it’s not for nothing that Tselinograd was renamed, and the capital was from Alma -Aty to the newly-named Astana in the Russian-speaking north moved, the former virgin lands staked out.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 27 October 2017 13: 39
        +3
        So, they will be closer to "true civilization", to the West, such as, another "Tse Europe"

        Yes, no. The problem is that they drift away not to the west, or rather not to that west. They are drifting toward Turkey under the wing, and for Russia this may turn out to be worse than a drift towards the United States.

        And so - their language is their business. Most likely they will simply break their own education system and make it inaccessible to parts of their own population. Strengthen social stratification. Lower overall literacy.

        For a while, instead of one “letter” they will use two. If they can carry out an organized transition, the consequences can be minimized ... If.
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 27 October 2017 12: 47
      +8
      Quote: Coco
      Well, at least kill, I don’t understand why the hell does he need it ???

      Along the way, this is a manifestation of “Kuchmism” (L. Kuchma “Ukraine is not Russia”), in the Nazarbayev version with the analogue “Kazakhstan is not Russia”. Will it benefit? The northern territories of Kazakhstan, where there are a large number of Russian-speaking residents, will perceive this law clearly without enthusiasm, which those who prepared the project cannot know, but in fact a time bomb to start an ethnic conflict. The eastern regions of Urquain are an example of this.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 27 October 2017 13: 03
        +6
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Will it benefit?


        Hey. Of course it will. Imagine the delight of the Arats when, after "sitting down" under a saxaul bush, they will wipe themselves with a newspaper with symbols of the Latin alphabet, and not the boring Cyrillic alphabet. In general, Nazarbay could not come up with a more stupid event (it seems that this decision was not dictated by Abishevich himself, but by his offspring who had been educated in "foreign countries"). I can imagine what will happen to the politics of Kazakhstan after the last mourning chord on the deceased president and the ascension to the throne of one of the members of his clan. We must be prepared for this. yes
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 27 October 2017 13: 14
          +5
          Quote: Lelek
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Will it benefit?

          Hi ............. I can imagine what will happen to the politics of Kazakhstan after the last mourning chord on the deceased president and the ascension to the throne of one of the members of his clan. We must be prepared for this. yes

          I wish you good health! I'm afraid it will be worse than Vna Urkaine. There will be a relative peace until Abishevich is at the helm and restrains the inter-clan fuss of the “southern”, “central” and “northern” for power. He will not be, this boiler will slam so that it will not seem to either the Cyrillic supporters or the Latin supporters. against those and others will be those who will carry flags with Arabic script.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 27 October 2017 13: 22
            +3
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky


            And I'm talking about the same thing. IMHO, knowing this future, it is now necessary to take preventive measures, given that Kazakhstan is our Adam's apple.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 27 October 2017 13: 27
              +1
              Quote: Lelek
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky


              And I'm talking about the same thing. IMHO, knowing this future, it is now necessary to take preventive measures, given that Kazakhstan is our Adam's apple.

              Yes .... Something like this.
            2. Smog
              Smog 27 October 2017 13: 39
              +3
              Quote: Lelek
              preventive measures must already be taken,

              Urgently need to build a wall. I'm really serious.
              1. Lelek
                Lelek 27 October 2017 13: 54
                +2
                Quote: Smog
                Urgently need to build a wall.


                Hi, Konstantin.
                Looks like a pin up. No wall needed. IMHO, you need to work more closely with the nat, cadres and prepare successors, as was the case in the tsarist Russian Empire and during the years of the USSR. Today it seems that we simply missed this area in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and let it go by itself. But our sworn "partners" are very closely involved in this and spend huge amounts of money on the "cultivation" of their personnel. And in most cases, their efforts and costs are justified. Well, and in addition to the above, we must actively use electronic means of propaganda. And the wall is a bluff, it did not protect China from the Mongol-Uyghur raids and the collapse of the Middle Kingdom. yes
                1. Smog
                  Smog 27 October 2017 16: 26
                  +4
                  Quote: Lelek
                  Looks like a pin

                  A lion! Hello! : soldier Yes, no jokes. I’m afraid it wouldn’t work out like with the outskirts, where the border is drawn on the map for the most part, and even then something like that.
                  Quote: Lelek
                  you need to work more closely with nat, cadres and prepare successors,

                  It will be hard. The whole point is that almost all the young growth in the post-Soviet space of education is received in the West, and our strengths also send their children to study there too. And what do you think, after studying at some Massachusetts University Russophile will return to his homeland? Oh, tormented by vague doubts about me, oh, torment me. And you need to start with the fact that our young cadres would study here and not in the tin, and then pull up our neighbors. Then you can work with them and prepare pro-Russian cadres. And since now ......, I'm sorry, a bunch in a puddle.
                  1. Dedall
                    Dedall 27 October 2017 22: 19
                    +1
                    Totally agree with you. And the daughter of our great leader in foreign affairs is an example of this. I read somewhere that she directly stated: "I will never return to this dirty Russia." So the most interesting thing is that dad was not cut off for marriage in the work of this very body.
                    1. Lelek
                      Lelek 28 October 2017 11: 34
                      0
                      Quote: Dedall
                      Dedall


                      Do not la la. Lavrov's daughter lives and works in Moscow. Don't get carried away by fake news (as US Secretary of Comrade Comrade Trump said). bully
        2. Qazaq 1974
          Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 21: 51
          +1
          we do not use newspapers to wipe! we sing and use toilet paper! and you know all the third newspaper then yes? oh, poor fellow!
    5. garnik
      garnik 27 October 2017 13: 16
      +7
      Landmark Turkey. Not for nothing that Nazarbayev seeks the reunion of the Türks.

      “As Ataturk said:“ The time will come when all the Turks will unite. ”Therefore, I want to greet all the Turkic-speaking brothers. Over 200 million brothers live between Altai and the Mediterranean Sea. If we all come together, we will be a very effective force in the world,” Nursultan Abishevich stated at the Turkish-Kazakh business forum
      This says it all and no need to look for a dirty trick.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 27 October 2017 13: 47
        +1
        Very accurate. The idea of ​​uniting the Türks in our shaky world is potentially very strong, so who is it that will allow them so smart to unite? Maybe the USA or China?
        1. garnik
          garnik 27 October 2017 13: 58
          +1
          China is definitely against it. The United States can take possession of Siberia by the hands of the Turks. And Russia is not clear, as the famous poet wrote: “One cannot understand Russia with intelligence, cannot measure common arshin: it’s special to become one - you can only believe in Russia.” So we hope and believe that it’s not us touches.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 27 October 2017 14: 05
            0
            And what can Russia just do? To counteract the sticks in the wheels they insert most likely will lead only to the opposite consequences. Try not to spoil relations with them as long as possible and wait for your opportunity. Maybe the Turan project will not take off, maybe it will be possible to again pull the Soviet fragments into its orbit (but for this, something significant must change in Russia). Maybe it will probably coexist with this Turan but not to the detriment of itself. Nevertheless, he will need much more in Russia than China, the USA, Europe, and generally anyone. You can still get a real ally.
            1. Ivan Ivanov
              Ivan Ivanov 27 October 2017 15: 48
              +1
              The Russian Federation can act in the same way as the USSR did in its time - to offer an attractive unifying model. no other way.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 27 October 2017 16: 26
                0
                That's the whole point that there is either nothing to offer or very little to offer.
                There is no huge leap into the future, as in the days of the USSR. There is not enough money or the wealth of the bowels there for all of them; they already do not have enough for the system existing in Russia itself. Nothing to offer them now.
            2. garnik
              garnik 27 October 2017 17: 06
              0
              It's simple, you need to destroy the center of gravity. But while we are contributing to the Turan project with our actions. Of course, it is possible to coexist if Russia is ready to become a Moscow state. That is how the Turks see Russia. The Moscow State itself will need strong allies. Unless of course someone lends a helping hand.
              A large number of countries interested in the death of Russia.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 27 October 2017 17: 38
                +1
                It's simple, you need to destroy the center of gravity

                Firstly, will Russia pull this? Secondly, what will be the consequences of such destruction for herself?

                Moscow State itself will need strong allies

                And now it doesn’t need them? Russia itself is also not a big country, in terms of population only one and a half times more than Turkey. She herself also needs to create alliances with someone. It is desirable that this someone be able to have a position that is so independent (from Western partners). Another thing is that your ally should not want your death and the dismemberment of your body .. yes.
                1. garnik
                  garnik 27 October 2017 18: 07
                  0
                  Quote: alexmach
                  It's simple, you need to destroy the center of gravity

                  Firstly, will Russia pull this? Secondly, what will be the consequences of such destruction for herself?

                  Moscow State itself will need strong allies

                  And now it doesn’t need them? Russia itself is also not a big country, in terms of population only one and a half times more than Turkey. She herself also needs to create alliances with someone. It is desirable that this someone be able to have a position that is so independent (from Western partners). Another thing is that your ally should not want your death and the dismemberment of your body .. yes.

                  I think that in the collapse of a well-known state, there are enough interested countries, even our enemies. You just need to come to a common denominator. They found the PMV common interest, but Ulyanov prevented. It is necessary to strengthen Iran, it has the same opponents in the region as ours.


                  It was in Turkey in 1923 that it had 13 million people. Now under 80 million people, Russia is 135 million. and 144 million. now. Allies are needed like air. And yet Russia should try to unite Slavic states around itself. There are many ways you just want to. Exception Poland.
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 27 October 2017 18: 45
                    +1
                    I think in the collapse of a well-known state of sufficiently interested countries, even our enemies

                    That’s yes, they can even “roll” without Russia in general. Another question is what threatens Russia itself? Well, for example, the closure of the Bosphorus?
                    They found the PMV common interest, but Ulyanov prevented

                    Firstly, it is a fairy tale that Ulyanov prevented, and secondly, because of this "interest" and ruined the Russian Empire. She had to contrive to avoid war and decide at that time you would look at your internal problems and Ulyanov would not be needed.

                    And yet Russia should try to unite Slavic states around itself.

                    I think this is a recipe from the 19th century, and in general, even then it did not work. Of course, if it had at least managed to unite with Belarus and part of Ukraine, it would be just fine, but even with Belarus dependent on Russia, nothing comes of it. Perhaps if Ukraine is waiting for the complete collapse of statehood, then after that it will be possible to pick up something and it will even be good for the selected parts, but firstly the collapse of this is not yet visible, secondly, the partners have long been on the watch - they are struggling to resist and enough successfully. And as for the more western Slavs - there’s nothing to even think about. There can only be hope for the Serbs, and they are “hesitating”, look at NATO soon.
                    1. garnik
                      garnik 27 October 2017 20: 40
                      0
                      1. Russia should be involved in the partition, just the straits Russia should control, otherwise they will go into the wrong hands.
                      2 I have already cited the story of the blockade of Ankira by the Greek troops many times. When they went to the armistice with the Turks due to lack of food and ammunition. Both turned to Bolshevik Russia for support, but she chose the Turks. You can google it in order to know the amount of aid, and the next year they repeated help from a starving country. The Turks welcomed the young Soviet country and created a communist party, but it was subsequently banned.
                      3.And that in our government there are those interested in uniting Ukrainians and Belarusians with Russians into a single union.? Well, if only GDP, then the big question. The Belarusians were scared away when the Russian side, on the subject of unification, demanded to put their (Belarusian) enterprises at an auction, i.e. privatization.
                      In general, Russia has more resources to decide whether or not to have an alliance.
                      And what about the Serbs, they passed several used planes and are glad. Unfortunately, I think we will lose Serbia, we can offer nothing but weapons. Why not build a nuclear power plant in Serbia, well, no, we’re building in Turkey,
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 27 October 2017 21: 58
                        0
                        1. Russia should be involved in the partition, just the straits Russia should control, otherwise they will go into the wrong hands.

                        Ho-ho.
                        He will eat, but who will give him (s)
                        These are dreams from about the same section as, for example, the colonization of Mars in the next five-year period.
          2. Ivan Ivanov
            Ivan Ivanov 27 October 2017 15: 47
            0
            Quote: garnik
            Landmark Turkey. Not for nothing that Nazarbayev seeks the reunion of the Türks.

            In this case, I wonder what Turkish values ​​are close to the former communist Nursultan, and what part does he count on?
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 27 October 2017 16: 33
              0
              Here, in fact, thinking is the most pragmatic. He, like Erdogan, like any sane politician in our world, understands that small countries cannot survive alone, by any means, they must unite into huge empires. Following the example of Europe, the USA or China. So they are looking for the answer to the question with whom they will unite. The all-Turkic association seems to them the most attractive. Russia currently has nothing to offer in this regard, its unifying projects in the post-Soviet space have completely failed at the moment. Team up with the Chinese - scary, they just eat them and do not choke. As for unification with Europe, they, unlike the Turks, never had any illusions.
            2. alexmach
              alexmach 27 October 2017 16: 45
              +1
              And developing the theme of values:
              1. Ethnically close, although not at all alike, but the Turks call them "brothers" and "our people" and not "unwashed chocks"
              2. Languages ​​are somewhat similar, they have one root
              3. Well, and religion.
            3. garnik
              garnik 27 October 2017 17: 10
              +1
              Oddly enough, the Turks are developing faster than us. And they have something to offer for the market. This is what they are doing in all Turkic countries, including Tatarstan.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 27 October 2017 17: 39
                +1
                At the moment, yes, the question is what will happen in the future, which of course we all still need to get into ...
                1. Ivan Ivanov
                  Ivan Ivanov 27 October 2017 23: 40
                  0
                  You can’t go far on a close ethnic group with religion, or on a friendly pat. United with the Russian Federation Kazakhstan, and Kazakhstan united with Turkey, even with the current weakness of the Russian Federation, these are two big differences with my so-called I do not understand such pragmatics, honestly.
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 28 October 2017 00: 27
                    0
                    And where did you see Kazakhstan combined with Russia then? Just as in 91 he himself pushed him away with clever conversations about his pies, so he has been in free swimming since then. Collaborate of course, but as they say, "tobacco bunches apart."
                    This is firstly, and secondly, explain in more detail what do you think these 2 big differences are between Russia and Turkey?
                    1. Ivan Ivanov
                      Ivan Ivanov 28 October 2017 13: 24
                      0
                      Quote: alexmach
                      And where did you see Kazakhstan combined with Russia then?

                      I talked about the hypothetical potential of 2 associations. The scientific and resource potentials, first of all, add the idea of ​​soc-ma at least according to the Chinese model (there is experience).
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 28 October 2017 13: 49
                        0
                        The idea of ​​socialism is attractive to the poor but not needed by the elites.

                        Scientific potential - yes, but only for now. And after 10 years you look and there will be no difference.

                        Resource potential is also yes, but firstly, Kazakhstan itself is rich in resources, like other possible members of this association, like Azerbaijan, for example. So you will not surprise anyone with resources alone. And secondly, as I wrote above, Russian resources in the current resource-oriented economy are already not enough for Russia alone.
            4. Qazaq 1974
              Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 21: 56
              +1
              This Turkey was given to you !!! far from us, no matter how we would like, through the Caucasus and the Black Sea it will not connect to us! ))) It's just so convenient for us to use the Latin alphabet, Cyrillic is our native language in Russian, and foreign in Kazakh!
            5. Karen
              Karen 28 October 2017 10: 35
              +1
              Quote: IvanIvanov
              Quote: garnik
              Landmark Turkey. Not for nothing that Nazarbayev seeks the reunion of the Türks.

              In this case, I wonder what Turkish values ​​are close to the former communist Nursultan, and what part does he count on?

              Even in Soviet times, it was implanted in the consciousness that Nazarbayev was a direct descendant of Genghis Khan.
              1. Zalym
                Zalym 28 October 2017 10: 57
                +2
                Quote: Karen
                Even in Soviet times, it was implanted in the consciousness that Nazarbayev was a direct descendant of Genghis Khan.


                In Soviet times, he repeatedly stated that he was a descendant of ordinary peasants. And now no one speaks of his Genghis origin
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 28 October 2017 18: 20
                  0
                  Yeah .. I just intesely "bay" at the end of the last name means something to me?
                  1. Zalym
                    Zalym 28 October 2017 18: 22
                    0
                    Quote: alexmach
                    Yeah .. I just intesely "bay" at the end of the last name means something to me?


                    Not belonging to the genus of Genghis Khan.
                    1. alexmach
                      alexmach 28 October 2017 18: 30
                      0
                      But to some local nobility, isn’t it?
                      And belonging to the genus of Genghis Khan for about 400 years seems to be not relevant.
                      1. Zalym
                        Zalym 28 October 2017 18: 37
                        0
                        Quote: alexmach
                        But to some local nobility, isn’t it?


                        No. Just part of the name.

                        Quote: alexmach
                        And belonging to the genus of Genghis Khan for about 400 years seems to be not relevant.


                        Not 400, but 150-200 years.
      2. avt
        avt 27 October 2017 17: 05
        0
        Quote: garnik
        Landmark Turkey. Not for nothing that Nazarbayev seeks the reunion of the Türks.

        bully Yes, for his money, even the Hungarians recognized him as the head of the Turkic world and corresponded from Finno-Ugrians to Turks! But the NAS did not give money.
        Quote: alexmach
        . The idea of ​​uniting the Turks in our shaky world is potentially very strong,

        bully Well, I wrote today
        Quote: avt
        And with regards to Turkey, Erdogan’s Pasha is your pan-Turkism in the phalos, he is dreaming of the neo-Ottoman Empire. What is called - feel the difference.

        Well, in light of the USA’s plans to create new states, it’s easy and easy to make Europe a Sick Man of Europe again.
        Quote: garnik
        The United States can take possession of Siberia by the hands of the Turks.

        To begin with, Adzharia and Batum, from which they expelled the Russian army, having closed the bases, when Mishiko Ivanov handed over the Abashidze and de jure Turks with the removal from there, can now quite easily send troops for legitimate reasons, if only a few local Muslims will be touched. that while they’re buying everything there, objective reality is a feeling.
        Quote: garnik
        “As Ataturk said:“ The time will come when all the Turks will unite. ”Therefore, I want to greet all the Turkic-speaking brothers. Over 200 million brothers live between Altai and the Mediterranean Sea. If we all come together, we will be a very effective force in the world,” Nursultan Abishevich stated at the Turkish-Kazakh business forum

        Well, that’s just understandable - he broke off with Eurasianism, again, the throne in the Kremlin is ONE and not only that a folding stool - they won’t let you put a stool nearby bully . Kazakhstan is small for the empire, and even though you yourself and the elbases are in the square, you will not become emperor, and the USSR WILL NOT even be included in the political bureau, not like general secretaries. Well, in old age, he plays the strategy - “The Turkic Emperor” bullyhence this exhaust with the alphabet.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2017 18: 06
          +3
          Quote: avt
          But NAS did not give money.

          So who Medvedev taught bad. I knew that all the evil in this world is from the Turks. laughing
          Quote: avt
          Well, I wrote today

          How evil you are, let the Turks jump on the rake of pan-Turkism. They will surely succeed. Well, or according to Chernomyrdin, and perhaps according to Lavrov too. laughing
          Quote: avt
          Well, in light of the USA’s plans to create new states, it’s easy and easy to make Europe a Sick Man of Europe again.

          Kurds and Armenians applaud you frantically. laughing
          Quote: avt
          Kazakhstan is small for the empire and even though you yourself and elbasy in the square call, you will not become emperor, and the USSR WILL NOT even be included in the political bureau, not like general secretaries. Well, in old age he plays a strategy - ,, The Turkic emperor "bully exhaust with the alphabet.

          avt laughter laughs, but we have enough of such good. All these games of correct nationalism which cover the personal economic interests of the local "elite".
          1. avt
            avt 27 October 2017 18: 25
            0
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            avt laughter laughs, but we have enough of such good.

            request And what actually was expected after
            Take sovereignty as much as you want - EBN
        2. Karen
          Karen 28 October 2017 10: 08
          0
          Laziness was to turn the page and read the second paragraph? In Hungary, not only the descendants of your ugrofin... the Khazars also escaped from you, and their glorious descendants you see on the box every day ....
          1. avt
            avt 28 October 2017 10: 12
            +1
            Quote: Karen
            the Khazars also escaped from you, and you see their glorious descendants in the mailbox every day ....

            Wai Mae!
            Quote: Karen
            on the box every day ....

            No matter how I turn it on, I see Dzhigarkhanyan! bully
            1. Karen
              Karen 28 October 2017 10: 29
              0
              Who wants to see something on the box, then he looks :)))
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 28 October 2017 18: 26
            0
            Khazars, forgive me, they escaped from the Mongol invasion.
            1. Karen
              Karen 31 October 2017 18: 36
              0
              Quote: alexmach
              Khazars, forgive me, they escaped from the Mongol invasion.

              Wrong remember about 965g. ?
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 31 October 2017 21: 03
                0
                I sprinkle ashes on my head, mixed up with the Polovtsy.
        3. alexmach
          alexmach 28 October 2017 18: 25
          0
          Explain how the neo-Ottoman empire contradicts pan-Turkic ideas. They primarily use them for their political purposes. for example, "Turkoman in our Syria."

          Well, in old age plays a strategy - ,, Turkic emperor "bully from here and this exhaust with the alphabet.

          Yes, he himself, in my opinion, doesn’t really need anything. And he plays the right strategy
  3. Finches
    Finches 27 October 2017 12: 28
    +6
    By and large, this is a personal matter of the Kazakhs — they want to be perceived in Europe as their own, but no matter how they puff, they will be Asians to the end of their civilization, for everyone .... As the French say, “this is the village " laughing
    1. novel66
      novel66 27 October 2017 12: 57
      +4
      so yes, but now how to read Kazakh inscriptions, say, not “toilet duckling”? lol
      1. Velizariy
        Velizariy 27 October 2017 13: 04
        +1
        Quote: novel xnumx
        how now to read Kazakh inscriptions, say, not "toilet duckling"?

        Take a magazine or newspaper, you can leave it there.
      2. Qazaq 1974
        Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 21: 57
        +1
        As if previously read in Kazakh! )))
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 27 October 2017 13: 45
      0
      Yes, Europe has nothing to do with it. They do not mark Europe
    3. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 02
      +1
      We are no longer fussing! We just live and grow !!! Indeed, a large part of our population lives in the Asian part, and a small part in the European, like most of the Russian Federation, that Asia is also in the Urals !!!
  4. may Day
    may Day 27 October 2017 12: 29
    0
    Then themselves, eyes and hands will not break to read this and write? )))
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      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 27 October 2017 15: 45
        +5
        Quote: stas
        no capitalist flea market

        But who will give us !? Well, until the people are lowered below the plinth, he will stupidly believe in his personal bright future with this system.
      3. Qazaq 1974
        Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 06
        +2
        We do not want to become Europeans, we want to talk and write as we want! A Strong Economic Russia is also a myth, like Pan-Turkism !!! Great Russia, Great Mongolia, Great Albania .... all this is a soap bubble !!!!
  5. stolz
    stolz 27 October 2017 12: 31
    +5
    Again, crap begins with the infringement of Russian, Russian literature and writing. Tired of all these "partners and colleagues" with their idiotic and incomprehensible initiatives and innovations.
    1. Aposlya
      Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 33
      +2
      Quote: Stolz
      Again, crap begins with the infringement of Russian, Russian literature and writing. Tired of all these "partners and colleagues" with their idiotic and incomprehensible initiatives and innovations.

      It is strange to hear from the forehead with a mattress on the flag lamentations about the protection of the Russian language, especially if no one touches the Russian language at all ... The changes will be in the spelling of the Kazakh language. Or not sober up in the morning yet?
      1. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 27 October 2017 23: 43
        0
        Quote: Aposlya
        It is strange to hear from the forehead with a mattress on the flag lamentations about the protection of the Russian language

        All the same, the goal of this transition is interesting.
        1. Aposlya
          Aposlya 28 October 2017 04: 29
          +2
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          All the same, the goal of this transition is interesting.

          Have you been writing pen texts for a long time? I don’t remember when already. Now, probably, texts are probably only written by students at lectures. All basically stuff it all on the keyboard. Printing in the Kazakh language in Cyrillic is generally not convenient, i.e. it turns out at the same time three layouts must have. If you go to the Latin alphabet, then there are only two - Russian and English, since Kazakh in Latin can be easily typed in the English layout. The Kazakh layout itself is already uncomfortable in that specific letters are located on the top numeric / symbolic keys. Those. on the Kazakh layout, many symbols or numbers of the upper row are no longer available - if you need a symbol, you have to switch to a different layout each time ... This is a purely personal IMHO ...
        2. Karen
          Karen 28 October 2017 10: 47
          0
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          Quote: Aposlya
          It is strange to hear from the forehead with a mattress on the flag lamentations about the protection of the Russian language

          All the same, the goal of this transition is interesting.

          Even 20 years ago, in Yakutia, you introduced very early education in English ... This is from the same opera ...
    2. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 08
      0
      you yourself !!! tired of ?! Close and sleep !!!
  6. Siberian
    Siberian 27 October 2017 12: 32
    +2
    Hello to our Foreign Ministry.
    1. Aposlya
      Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: Siberian
      Hello to our Foreign Ministry.

      To yours? British or what?
  7. kuznec
    kuznec 27 October 2017 12: 35
    +5
    Pay attention to what is marked in red, and to the number of letters. In Latin - 26, in Russian - 33. In newfangled Kazakh -32.
    You can still write with runes, or draw pictures, but 32 letters of the alphabet suggest that the Kazakhs have a long way to work to eradicate traditions! Russia drew borders for them, and industry built, and writing gave ...
    My friend escaped from there in the 90s, so that they would not kill him and his family, their father was a military man. True, another acquaintance (a distinguished oil specialist), although Russian, is respected and still lives with his family there. So understand ... It seems that they will fall under China.
    1. Dorren
      Dorren 27 October 2017 12: 41
      +1
      Yes, there was a splash there - especially in the southern regions, you can’t calmly walk along the street. But then it somehow stabilized, although we took all the relatives out too.
    2. The black
      The black 27 October 2017 12: 48
      0
      Quote: kuznec
      It seems that they will fall under China.

      so then it is necessary to pass to hieroglyphs laughing
      1. ilimnoz
        ilimnoz 27 October 2017 14: 19
        +1
        Why go to hieroglyphs in China itself, Kazakhs still use Arabic script.
        1. The brightest
          The brightest 27 October 2017 16: 07
          0
          Quote: ilimnoz
          Why go to hieroglyphs in China itself, Kazakhs still use Arabic script.

          Here I am of the same opinion ... Why the Latin, and not the ligature - it would be much more logical.
          1. Aposlya
            Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 34
            +1
            ligature is no longer modern ...
            1. The brightest
              The brightest 8 November 2017 18: 22
              0
              For that it would be understandable why ... And then bam and instead of the normal alphabet, pornography with commas.
    3. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 09
      0
      Kazakh on a cypillar in general - 42 letters !!!
  8. Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 27 October 2017 12: 38
    +1
    Kazakh leader Nursultan Nazarbayev signed a decree on the transition to 2025 of the Kazakh alphabet from Cyrillic to Latin

    Well, now the Kazakhs will heal like cheese in butter ..
    1. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 09
      +1
      Heal mmmm! I’ll buy a jacket for myself, at low tide!
  9. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 27 October 2017 12: 39
    +1
    Immediately and in parallel, you need to switch to Chinese characters, there is no need to trifle and time to pull.
  10. Dorren
    Dorren 27 October 2017 12: 39
    +1
    Rather, they should immediately switch to hieroglyphs, and they are all busy with the Latin alphabet. Oh, wee ...
  11. Masya masya
    Masya masya 27 October 2017 12: 47
    +7
    Why not Arabic script? recourse the very thing! wink
    1. novel66
      novel66 27 October 2017 13: 00
      +5
      Well, for the "unification of the Turkic world" the very thing, but are smart people listen to such questions?
  12. SOF
    SOF 27 October 2017 12: 53
    0
    ... well, good luck. The denyuzhka, which is now pouring in on a sea-okiyan for renaming, reprinting, and other, other, could be used more rationally, of course, but - it’s your money and you decide: where to get it and where to put it.
    But, in my opinion, a terribly dubious achievement. The same “dashes” and “apostrophes” as with the Cyrillic alphabet. Although there is one sound, “S”, which is generally described by the player. Yes Yes. WAY is of course closer in phonetics to the sound "Y" laughing
    1. novel66
      novel66 27 October 2017 13: 01
      +3
      dyslexia shines for their children, definitely!
      1. Qazaq 1974
        Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 14
        +2
        Don’t be afraid, you haven’t buried us for 25 years !! Then everything will fall apart, then they will all run away, then they will die, then the Chinese will capture you, then the Americans, then pan-Turkism, etc. And we all live and get fatter !!!! Beer - In !!! There is plenty of meat, there are Machines, we are building houses, we are building railways, we have moved the capital! We introduce Latin alphabet !!! KVN won! Tomorrow we’ll fly to the moon !!! And we will not take you with us !!!!!)))))))))))
        1. novel66
          novel66 28 October 2017 07: 39
          +3
          Kazakh brother - am I really against it? but together it was better
          1. Qazaq 1974
            Qazaq 1974 28 October 2017 09: 15
            0
            In fact, we are always together !!! You just don’t notice !! Almost every 10th car with Russian license plates in Astana !!!!
            1. novel66
              novel66 30 October 2017 10: 25
              +3
              in the Ukraine, too, it began with trifles - I would not want to repeat
              1. Aposlya
                Aposlya 6 November 2017 17: 01
                0
                I understand you - "you are burnt in milk and you blow into the water." But in general, Maidan in Ukraine did not begin at all on changing the font - by the way, they still sit in Cyrillic. If you go into the history of the issue, so there first was the “Orange Revolution” of orange scarves with Yushchenko at the head, and then it started! Amerikosy there robbed dough thrown ...
  13. Sergey53
    Sergey53 27 October 2017 12: 55
    +1
    About 10 years ago, or maybe even earlier, he was already trying to crank it up. It didn’t work out. The Russian-speaking KAZAKHs moved to RUSSIA. Now they have moved towards Turkey. They have it closely organized training and work on Turkish grants. Construction of madrassas, mosques. There is a systemic separation from RUSSIA.
    1. Elevator in the building
      Elevator in the building 27 October 2017 14: 46
      +3
      What can we say about Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan, you look into Russia, for example, into Yakutia, oh, sorry - SAHA, al into independent (!) Tatarstan ... I don’t mention a certain “state in the state” in the Caucasus ..
    2. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 15
      0
      So before the talk, but everything goes in a bunch !!!
  14. uscib
    uscib 27 October 2017 12: 56
    15
    Everywhere in our media, I can only hear how cool it is and how everyone approves of it, but I have not yet met a single Kazakh who I agree with, just mates.
    And everything is violet to the Russians, but I feel sorry for the money for this crap.
    Everyone agrees that Nazarbayev falls into insanity ...
    1. Babalaykin
      Babalaykin 28 October 2017 12: 51
      0
      similarly, they especially laughed at the first option with two letters, it so happened that some could not pronounce the names.
  15. 32363
    32363 27 October 2017 12: 59
    +3
    the Kazakhs are turning away from Russia more and more, the first step was the transfer of the capital to Tselinograd, which led to the crowding out of the Russian-speaking population from the northern territories, now the language, who will work for them later, the Kazakhs? I doubt it.
    storage facilities were made from my Tselinogradselmash plant and so everywhere, there are no specialists or at least, all the hucksters have become or tire changers.
    1. Aposlya
      Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 40
      +3
      but in your opinion in the KZ except for Russian no one works or what? laughing
    2. Sergey53
      Sergey53 27 October 2017 19: 53
      +1
      You shouldn’t be so. And there are a lot of good, hardworking guys. It would be where to work.
    3. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 17
      0
      You tell my friends this live in Astana, Serega, Dima, Leh and Andrei!
    4. Babalaykin
      Babalaykin 28 October 2017 12: 52
      0
      This situation with factories is widespread, and in Russia too.
  16. unignm
    unignm 27 October 2017 13: 22
    +1
    I wonder if phonetics will change?
  17. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 27 October 2017 13: 28
    0
    Voluntarist. Diphthongs get washed away and live. Come on, Nazarbayev.
  18. IL-18
    IL-18 27 October 2017 13: 32
    +2
    I will not comment. I can’t understand the main thing: in fig they need it request
    1. IL-18
      IL-18 27 October 2017 13: 35
      +3
      Although, this may increase milk yields.
  19. Mig-31
    Mig-31 27 October 2017 13: 33
    +7
    Yeah! Just pornography! Let's see, maybe after replacing the Cyrillic alphabet with the Latin alphabet, we will live in Switzerland and Norway.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 27 October 2017 14: 37
      +1
      Quote: Mig-31
      Let's see, maybe after replacing the Cyrillic alphabet with the Latin alphabet, we will live in Switzerland and Norway.
      Now, if Nazarbayev had said so right away, otherwise it’s muddy like that ...
    2. avt
      avt 27 October 2017 15: 01
      +2
      Quote: Mig-31
      Let's see, maybe after replacing the Cyrillic alphabet with the Latin alphabet, we will live in Switzerland and Norway.

      And enter the Roman numeral and you can say - have reached the last sea " bully Yes, and it will be possible to score on Genghis and rewrite the history of the Kazakhs from the Roman emperors! bully But here zrad may happen - clash with the great Ukrainians. We have to admit what happened, like the Rymlyans, from them bully Moreover, Bebik had already proved that Genghis was Genghis Khanenko .... or Genghis Chuk, well, shark is shorter. bully
    3. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2017 18: 09
      +1
      Quote: Mig-31
      Let's see, maybe after replacing the Cyrillic alphabet with the Latin alphabet, we will live in Switzerland and Norway.

      Well, the part will definitely heal, the one that will cut money on this. laughing
    4. Babalaykin
      Babalaykin 28 October 2017 12: 56
      0
      What is not enough for you? we have already completed the 2030 program at a faster pace, now 2050, probably in the year 25 it will be fulfilled ... we live better faster than we planned, but you are all unhappy (sarcasm) you want Switzerland))
  20. Enoch
    Enoch 27 October 2017 13: 37
    +2
    Why do they need it?
    “You have turned our big and good world into a JUNGLE. But what you have done sooner or later will turn against you and your children. ”
    (From a speech by M. Gaddafi on June 22, 2011)
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  22. Mig-31
    Mig-31 27 October 2017 13: 43
    +4
    Quote: Coco
    Well, at least kill, I don’t understand why the hell does he need it ???

    why the hell does he need it ??? What the hell ?! As soon as we switch to the Latin alphabet, we will immediately be ahead of the rest in terms of economy and welfare of the people, and all sorts of the USA, China, Switzerland, Norway will turn out to be third world countries.
    1. Aposlya
      Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 42
      +3
      Quote: Mig-31
      why the hell does he need it ??? What the hell ?!

      What’s the difference to you? You still don’t know Kazakh, you don’t know how to write it, so calm down, for you, nothing in life will change ...
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    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 27 October 2017 14: 00
      +2
      it's time. All Turkic peoples go to the Latin alphabet.
      In-sha alla. Only I used to think that the Türks write in Arabic script.
      Truly, if you want to punish anyone, you take away your mind!
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      2. Qazaq 1974
        Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 23
        0
        Reason left you soon, all Türks use the Latin alphabet! And the Arabic script was used until the beginning of the 20th century, only Uighurs and Kazakhs in the PRC use the Arabic script only because the Chinese imposed it on them. And the Soviet government imposed on us the Cyrillic alphabet. And before her, we already had the Latin alphabet!
    2. IL-18
      IL-18 27 October 2017 14: 02
      +2
      Well, at least someone is good
      Quote: ISLAM and NATION
      It is high time. All Turkic peoples go to the Latin alphabet. The line for Tatarstan and Bashkiria.
  24. Gardamir
    Gardamir 27 October 2017 13: 56
    +3
    As always, Internet trolls rushed to blame others. But is it all the same to our leadership? But what about the BRICS? How is good neighborly cooperation? What about a shared story? You will involuntarily think that Lavrov can only swear, but as a diplomat, to put it mildly ...
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      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 27 October 2017 20: 14
        0
        How with this attitude to your neighbors
        Who offended you? I always like it when a person thinks up himself, challenges himself and then offends himself. I've been thinking all my life that all people are brothers, all women are sisters. But he came to Moscow. Now I’m slowly learning Azerbaijani, and there I need Uzbek. For not understanding what others are saying is stupid.
  25. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 27 October 2017 13: 59
    0
    Something I do not understand, what is the point of these "great" transformations? Maybe this will become richer?
  26. Mig-31
    Mig-31 27 October 2017 14: 01
    +3
    Quote: SOF
    but - this is your money and you decide: where to get it and where to put it.

    Unfortunately this is not our money, but the money for this project is shaking people, something like that.
  27. Mig-31
    Mig-31 27 October 2017 14: 03
    +2
    Quote: 32363
    the Kazakhs are turning away from Russia more and more, the first step was the transfer of the capital to Tselinograd, which led to the crowding out of the Russian-speaking population from the northern territories, now the language, who will work for them later, the Kazakhs? I doubt it.
    storage facilities were made from my Tselinogradselmash plant and so everywhere, there are no specialists or at least, all the hucksters have become or tire changers.

    Kazakhs turn away from Russia more and more I can confidently say that the people do not turn away, the authorities turn away.
    1. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 27 October 2017 15: 45
      +2
      Today, power is tomorrow, people, it’s obvious. see Ukraine.
  28. Humpty
    Humpty 27 October 2017 14: 05
    +4
    Quote: uscib
    Everyone agrees that Nazarbayev falls into insanity ...

    Have you noticed for a long time, or just now? "The best dzhigits among the Turks are Kazakhs." So NAS said.
    Quote: Mig-31
    It was then necessary to immediately switch to the Chinese character. No, but what! We are moving closer from Russia to China.

    Have you ever thought about how generally Kazakhstan has a common border with China?
    The life of a Kazakh is difficult and unpretentious under the oppression of the Cyrillic alphabet.
    1. Zalym
      Zalym 27 October 2017 18: 17
      +2
      Quote: Humpty
      Have you ever thought about how generally Kazakhstan has a common border with China?
      The life of a Kazakh is difficult and unpretentious under the oppression of the Cyrillic alphabet.


      Well, somehow after these events, apparently. http://www.nutug.ru/histori/tragedia.htm
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 27 October 2017 19: 30
        0
        Quote: Zalym
        Well, somehow after these events, apparently

        Thanks for the details. As a result of successful diplomacy, those lands passed to Russia from China.
  29. Romanenko
    Romanenko 27 October 2017 14: 21
    +2
    Maybe of course it will be cooler in Latin letters in Kazakh, let them decide for themselves.
    It’s good that they seem to have kept the direction of the letter, otherwise they could have been from right to left.
    Probably there are no other problems in the country, I am glad for Kazakhstan.
  30. Mig-31
    Mig-31 27 October 2017 14: 27
    +1
    Quote: Humpty
    Hard and unpretentious life of a Kazakh under the oppression of the Cyrillic alphabet

    So the Kyrgyz, in your garden keep order, and do not attribute the decision of the authorities to the desire of the people, this news itself spoiled the mood.
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 27 October 2017 17: 34
      0
      Quote: Mig-31
      So the Kyrgyz, in your garden keep order, and do not attribute the decision of the authorities to the desire of the people, this news itself spoiled the mood.

      The Kyrgyz have other fun. They will now celebrate November 7 the Day of History and Remembrance of the Ancestors in honor of the 1916 uprising against the Russian Empire. And, there is not far to the Latin alphabet.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 27 October 2017 19: 35
        0
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        And, there is not far to the Latin alphabet.

        Long away . Hieroglyphs or closer.
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        They will now celebrate November 7 the Day of History and Remembrance of the Ancestors in honor of the 1916 uprising against the Russian Empire.

        Someone got into a drunk date, I don’t presume to judge who.
      2. Aposlya
        Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 47
        +2
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        The Kyrgyz have other fun. They will now celebrate November 7 the Day of History and Remembrance of the Ancestors in honor of the 1916 uprising against the Russian Empire. And, there is not far to the Latin alphabet.

        Why not? The overthrow of the tsar and in the Russian Federation is still celebrated ...
        1. avt
          avt 27 October 2017 21: 15
          +1
          Quote: Aposlya
          Why not? The overthrow of the tsar and in the Russian Federation is still celebrated ...

          bully Avono how running that! In Russia and in the USSR, the FEBRUARY revolution was celebrated as a bourgeois revolution, but was not celebrated. Unlike the Great October Revolution. But the tsar was already on the throne for about 9 months.
          1. Aposlya
            Aposlya 28 October 2017 04: 34
            +1
            Sharks, this is already known! But after all, it was always previously believed that it was the Bolsheviks who overthrew the tsar, at least they shot precisely. The overthrow of the king was the outcome of the 1917 revolution ...
            1. avt
              avt 28 October 2017 10: 04
              0
              Quote: Aposlya
              Sharks, this is already known! But it’s always been previously believed that it was the Bolsheviks who overthrew the tsar

              bully By whom and when
              Quote: Aposlya
              it was always thought before that it was the Bolsheviks who overthrew the tsar,
              well, and again where
              Quote: Aposlya
              overthrew

              bully For students by standards after 1991, Zoros textbooks do not offer
              Quote: Aposlya
              The overthrow of the king was the outcome of the 1917 revolution ...

              wassat Like, he began to read old books with the new Kazakh alphabet !? bully Try the Cyrillic alphabet, then the understanding will come of the difference between the interpretation of the word revolution — a revolution in understanding of the liberals and what is called the Great October Socialist Revolution, which was put on a par with the French Revolution with a revolution in the whole way of life of the country and, in particular, the relationship of classes to ownership of the means of production .Then the understanding will come that in terms of the class struggle (well, for brevity, without retelling here and now, Capital from Marx) and the attitude to property, February was in fact a palace coup that took the Romanov dynasty from power.
  31. turcom
    turcom 27 October 2017 14: 33
    +2
    Quote: uscib
    Everyone agrees that Nazarbayev falls into insanity ...

    That's for sure. Here he introduces the Latin alphabet; in the south, the border with Kyrgyzstan is blocked ...
  32. Elevator in the building
    Elevator in the building 27 October 2017 14: 40
    +1
    “Oh (!) I understood” - this “lamp of democracy and the keeper of the people” sucks switching of the Cyrillic / Latin alphabet on the clave, so he undertook to “help” the citizens of Kazakhstan. What a nevertheless caring .. Only in vain is he so tuna immediately for hieroglyphs .. Although, what should he like once again to change the “primer”? We have LADIES, for example, the time as the gloves changed ..? Interestingly, IT is still listed in the column as “ally”, is al already a partner? Although I don’t have any doubts, what, and why, this former CPSU MEMBER does .. #######
  33. romb
    romb 27 October 2017 14: 44
    +5
    Reading comments on such articles is just a pleasure. It's nice to see how a frantic butchert begins for a separate category of comrades. Already smoke is comingfellow
    1. Elevator in the building
      Elevator in the building 27 October 2017 15: 00
      +1
      Yes, it doesn’t “burn”, it’s a shame that they tear the “former whole” into flaps, stupidly, for the sake of their own cheap “this minute” benefit. And the more power the "national elites" have, the less chance "Humanity" has ..
      21st century - neo-feudalism & just some kind of surrealism ..
      1. romb
        romb 27 October 2017 15: 13
        +5
        Honestly, I would understand the outrage if it concerned the Russian language in Kazakhstan.
        If we decided to translate it from Cyrillic to Latin, we would definitely be against it. However, like the vast majority of Kazakhs.
        But, after all, what’s interesting, the translation concerns purely Kazakh language and its alphabet.
        And the Russian language as we had, remains so. That is, in its unchanged form.
        1. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 27 October 2017 15: 25
          +1
          Quote: romb
          . It's nice to see how a frantic butchert begins for a separate category of comrades.

          Here the question is what is the purpose. is it really all about the "inadequacy of sounds"?
          1. romb
            romb 27 October 2017 16: 26
            +3
            I will not respond to various speculations and will only mention one extremely important moment for the Kazakhs. Today, a large part of the Kazakhs (several million) live outside of Kazakhstan. As a result of which, they were naturally forced to write and read in several types of writing for a long time. Arabic script - in China and the Middle East, the Latin alphabet - in Turkey, Uzbekistan and several other countries. In this case, the Cyrillic alphabet is used by Kazakhs living in Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Russia. In fact, one people wrote and read on several types of writing. Which in turn caused a lot of problems in communication between Kazakhs from different countries. In general, the question of unifying the written Kazakh language to a single (most convenient and common) for all Kazakh-speaking denominators did not arise today. We talked about this and wrote back in the nineties. For a very long time, the experience of introducing the Latin alphabet in a number of Turkic-speaking states was studied: Turkey, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan. hi
            1. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 27 October 2017 17: 41
              +1
              Quote: romb
              I will not respond to various speculations and will only mention one extremely important moment for Kazakhs ....

              Yes, it's hard, but being a competent Kazakh. You need to know the Arabic script, Cyrillic alphabet, Latin alphabet. Further it will be easier. wink
              Quote: romb
              Honestly, I would understand the outrage if it concerned the Russian language in Kazakhstan.

              There is another song, new special textbooks of the Russian language and literature. According to Urgant
              1. romb
                romb 27 October 2017 18: 04
                +3
                There is another song, new special textbooks of the Russian language and literature. According to Urgant

                If you didn’t notice, there was and is a bucha in Kazakhstan about this. The people were outraged en masse - the author tried through the media to explain his position.
                And in general, this applies no less to Russia. You, too, are far from smooth with this. wink
              2. Zalym
                Zalym 27 October 2017 18: 16
                +2
                Quote: There was a mammoth
                There is another song, new special textbooks of the Russian language and literature. According to Urgant


                Yes norms tutorial. Only he is for teaching Russian as a foreign language.
                1. Was mammoth
                  Was mammoth 27 October 2017 22: 05
                  0
                  Quote: Zalym
                  Yes norms tutorial. Only he is for teaching Russian as a foreign language.

                  "Only he for teaching Russian as a foreign language" for Russians?
                  It turns out that your “language of interethnic communication” is foreign, it is understandably non-state.
                  1. Zalym
                    Zalym 27 October 2017 22: 21
                    0
                    Well for us, yes, foreign. I mean that the structure of the textbook is similar to the textbooks that teach English i.e. foreign language.
        2. Elevator in the building
          Elevator in the building 27 October 2017 15: 33
          +1
          "the trouble began", and after a while and - "claw got stuck - the abyss to the whole bird" ..

          but in general: You have the right to do in your own country that your constitution and government allow? Well, we have the right, within the framework of the permitted resources, to express our opinion on the "voiced" topics. good
        3. The brightest
          The brightest 27 October 2017 16: 04
          +1
          Quote: romb
          Honestly, I would understand the outrage if it concerned the Russian language in Kazakhstan.

          Ponimalka has not yet grown, you will grow already living in a country that had a normal alphabet, and now porn with commas.
          1. romb
            romb 27 October 2017 16: 23
            +3
            Understanding specialist? bully
            It can be seen.
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 27 October 2017 18: 22
              +3
              Quote: romb
              Understanding specialist? bully
              It can be seen.

              Rhombus. Do not get involved in the discussion on this topic with Russian "well-wishers", the law is signed by the NAS. The implementation is phased and I think it will be completed within 10-15 years. As with the transfer of our capital, there was a lot of “barking”, and the caravan was on. Now we have the beautiful Astana, which has solved a number of our problems. The transition to the Latin alphabet will also provide a solution to many parallel problems.
      2. Qazaq 1974
        Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 27
        +2
        You yourself tore it up in 1991 !!!! and they kicked us out! from the Union! and you’re losing with moralizing, what do you care about us!
  34. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 27 October 2017 15: 22
    +1
    Another fraternal weather vane spun
  35. genpolitproekt
    genpolitproekt 27 October 2017 15: 38
    +1
    Sultanate, they want it and do it, but citizens will oppose it. But why is this? Yes, away from the Russian spirit, but closer to the lamb ...
    1. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 30
      0
      what a meanness .... to the mutton !!! You are stuck there, and we are in a brighter future !!!!
  36. genpolitproekt
    genpolitproekt 27 October 2017 15: 41
    0
    The lamb smelled ...
  37. a housewife
    a housewife 27 October 2017 15: 41
    0
    This Russian alphabet does not suit them, in which 33 letters? And in Latin how much? 23? Is it better for them? Oh well! If better, why leave the Cyrillic alphabet? It is strange when one language uses two alphabets at once. One will have to stay. Or one that is more convenient, or one that is forcibly abandoned. The Adyghe people have 66 letters, I can imagine how it would look in the Latin alphabet, because there were such attempts. Cyrillic remained.
    1. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 30
      0
      Kazakh in Cyrillic 42 letters, Madame !!
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 27 October 2017 22: 46
        0
        In Cyrillic you need to "add" 9 characters? And in Latin - 19 !!!
        1. Aposlya
          Aposlya 28 October 2017 04: 36
          +1
          in Latin - not a single one is added! Do you even read the article first, before you climb into the discussion board! wink
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 28 October 2017 14: 19
            0
            I read the article. And you, sir, did not understand anything in what I wrote. Besides, sir, you are ignorant.
            1. Aposlya
              Aposlya 6 November 2017 17: 07
              0
              Read, read, but didn’t understand anything! wassat
              1. a housewife
                a housewife 7 November 2017 17: 26
                +1
                What are you speaking about? Are you a philologist? Connoisseur! Well, yes, that’s on purpose. Once again, for philologists. There are 33 letters in the Russian alphabet. In Latin - 23. Is that clear? Farther. If a language requires 42 letters, because they need to express 42 sounds, and there is no alphabet, because it never existed, then it is easier to take a ready-made alphabet with a large number of letters. This is clear?
  38. Mig-31
    Mig-31 27 October 2017 15: 53
    +4
    There are no more problems in Kazakhstan! The people live richly. Social? On the highest level. Income? So, the minimum sn a few thousand dollars. Education? So still mathematicians, physicists and chemists. Fuels and lubricants?
    So water costs cheaper. Medicine? For a long time already the level of our medicine has reached the point that he is engaged in head transplantation. Job? So dofig factories and factories, like dogs not cut, I do not want to work. Defense industry? It’s easy to pile on the United States and China instead of those taken, and Russia, so, for the teeth. So what to do? Boring something, in Kazakhstan everything is decorous and noble, so come on I’ll send the Cyrillic alphabet to the forest and invite the Latin alphabet to lick it. This is how our government lives in its parallel world, but in reality, read the opposite.
    1. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 31
      +2
      Let's wait another 25 years ?! Bored with you all-crawler !!!
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  40. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 27 October 2017 16: 11
    0
    the cat has nothing to do ..... he doesn’t understand that we have no other problems? Or was it done specifically to distract people from the questions why everything is so expensive, and how to live on ???? !!!! if they ask why gasoline is expensive, they will answer the money you need for the new Alphabet. negative negative negative
  41. pasechnik
    pasechnik 27 October 2017 16: 49
    +1
    Nazarbayev’s senility has begun! wassat
  42. pasechnik
    pasechnik 27 October 2017 16: 53
    +3
    I myself come from western Kazakhstan, from Art. Ganyushkino was there for the last time in 2013, complete devastation, there are no roads at all
    It would be better if they helped the people!
    1. Aposlya
      Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 52
      +3
      compared to the villages of the Russian Federation you have paradise there!
    2. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 35
      +3
      And I come from the Dombarovsky district of the Orenburg region! The picture is the same !!!
  43. Stoler
    Stoler 27 October 2017 17: 34
    0
    Compared to “this,” Ukraine is fully adequate good
  44. marshes
    marshes 27 October 2017 17: 44
    +2
    Everything will be CARROT! (Original Latin version). laughing
    And the trend has gone, T-shirts, sweatshirts, the Chinese have already poured in on the covers for smartphones they offer. laughing
    Now, emergency nicknames in SMS alerts will be correctly written in Kazakh. laughing
    1. Zalym
      Zalym 27 October 2017 18: 08
      +1
      I liked this version of the alphabet more https://the-steppe.com/news/a/a/qazaqsa-alma-bizn
      it i
      1. marshes
        marshes 27 October 2017 18: 19
        +1
        Quote: Zalym
        I liked this version of the alphabet more https://the-steppe.com/news/a/a/qazaqsa-alma-bizn
        it i

        Something the line doesn’t work 404 writes, and so the online publications went to the page, it loads heavily in the last week.
        1. Zalym
          Zalym 27 October 2017 18: 21
          +1
          The site often spoils links, not to mention the fact that it is impossible to fit an address without a break in one line. You must first copy, and then paste it into the address bar, if you select and click "go to address" - it will not open.
          https://the-steppe.com/news/a/a/qazaqsa-alma-bizn
          it i
          1. marshes
            marshes 27 October 2017 18: 30
            +1
            Quote: Zalym
            The site often spoils links, not to mention the fact that it is impossible to fit an address without a break in one line.

            It is very Turkish, with these dots in letters. Here they are trying to move away from them, again an extra layout on the keyboard. So the accepted version is at least somehow acceptable.
            1. Zalym
              Zalym 27 October 2017 18: 32
              0
              For me it’s quite normal. The dots above the letters may be an extra layout, but it looks better than these apostrophes.
              1. marshes
                marshes 27 October 2017 18: 39
                +1
                Quote: Zalym
                For me it’s quite normal. The dots above the letters may be an extra layout, but it looks better than these apostrophes.

                And you imagine how much it would cost to introduce at least an additional layout in state structures and to private traders, because office work in the state language will increase. For some, I will explain right away that the connection is growing in the population who speak the state language as their native language.
              2. Qazaq 1974
                Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 37
                +1
                I agree!!! A good option and easy to read!
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 27 October 2017 18: 16
      +1
      Quote: marshes
      Now, emergency nicknames in SMS alerts will be correctly written in Kazakh.

      Pozdravlau. laughing Now Kazakhstan will heal, panan. And that heavy Soviet legacy prevented take off. And these evil northern ugrofin will look with envy from their snowy gloomy forests at the shining, flourishing Kazakhstan. laughing
      1. Aposlya
        Aposlya 27 October 2017 19: 55
        +1
        Why is there such malice in you? Are you living in Switzerland yourself? No? Well then, what?
      2. Ugolek
        Ugolek 27 October 2017 20: 05
        0
        You need to keep up, go back to the glagolitas !!

        The main thing is a herd of buffalo back and forth. QazaQ sounds proudly, not like Kazakh !!!))))
        1. Ugolek
          Ugolek 27 October 2017 20: 10
          0
          Aposlya, there is no malice, - the Kazakhs need to decide whether or not, if you think what is needed, - realize ahead. But believe me, this will create huge problems.
        2. Aposlya
          Aposlya 28 October 2017 04: 38
          +2
          Quote: Ugolek
          QazaQ sounds proud, not like Kazakh

          QazaQ - sounds right, but kazakh - this is already a newspeak, introduced by the decision of the Council of People's Commissars.
      3. Qazaq 1974
        Qazaq 1974 27 October 2017 22: 38
        0
        Thank you for your congratulations!
  45. Antokha
    Antokha 27 October 2017 20: 07
    +1
    Well, what, any spit in the direction of Russia is paid. And it's like pumping up on the carpet in front of the door. God be their judge.
    1. Ugolek
      Ugolek 27 October 2017 20: 15
      +1
      Antokha, you obviously went too far, this is the internal affair of the Kazakhs in your country ..

      It’s another matter that there is no clear explanation of why this is done, I haven’t heard from the authorities, everyone adds on his own and there is no clarity.
  46. Slam
    Slam 27 October 2017 20: 12
    0
    Quote: Antianglosaks
    Quote: cniza
    Nazarbayev wants to leave a deeper trace in history, but he does not care about people's problems.
    Well, DB, there is nothing more to say! What for him Latin? The West is already rolling into the hole of history and focusing on the Latin alphabet - the top of madness! The West has no clear future, most likely there will be a bloody mess in its territories, then a caliphate. God forbid us to help the geyropets when they will be cut out without exception by the Arab-African passionaries!

    West was bent yesterday, and last Tuesday, and in the 2000m, and in the 80m, and in the 70th he did not get used to.
    1. Ugolek
      Ugolek 27 October 2017 20: 19
      0
      No, the processes that are going on in the West are far from harmless, the fruits will be tasted after some time, the bitter fruits will be.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 27 October 2017 21: 24
        +5
        Quote: Ugolek
        No, the processes that are going on in the West are far from harmless, the fruits will be tasted after some time, the bitter fruits will be.

        For the most part, on the shit on the processes going on in the west that supposedly ditch this west. The main thing is they live better, they live better both in the Republic of Ingushetia and in the USSR and in the Russian Federation. And this West is buried and buried by representatives of either the people of the God-bearer, the people of the builder of communism, or the people of a great energy power. It may be enough to envy the neighbor and wish that the cow is dead, And it seems that the earth is rich and wealthy and competent and hard-working people, and it’s impossible to achieve a standard of living in the West, all the horror people don’t let the Saxons hold hands and feet, then Americans, then Freemasons, then Jews, then aliens from Nubiru.
  47. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 28 October 2017 00: 32
    +1
    All the conversations and promises of the Kazakhs and Nazarbayev that the Russian language will remain only promises. It is just necessary to send Russian-speakers to Russia, there they will no longer be allowed to enter the civil service, to all other significant posts.
    1. Aposlya
      Aposlya 28 October 2017 04: 40
      +2
      Well, if you haven’t served in the army, you won’t be accepted to the civil service, but Russians here prefer to quit! And if so, then why whine?
  48. lopvlad
    lopvlad 28 October 2017 05: 26
    +3
    approve the enclosed Kazakh language alphabet based on the Latin script

    how many Russia the Kazakhs did not give land to and the state did not create everything to them in vain. Great lessons have been given to us by the "fraternal" peoples from the first day when our ancestors plundered the land we had won in their national pockets.
    1. Qazaq 1974
      Qazaq 1974 28 October 2017 09: 26
      +1
      Russia only conquered new colonies! But the Bolsheviks awarded us with land, they did not think that it would be so! ))) Moreover, as they wanted, they called us that!
      And they plundered everything in their pockets: Russia was the first to leave the USSR, together with Belarus and Ukraine, even earlier the Baltic states, for everything! And we, Kazakhstan, last declared independence - already from nobody .... The USSR was gone!
      So what claims to us ???
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 28 October 2017 22: 34
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        Russia only conquered new colonies! But the Bolsheviks awarded us with land, they did not think that it would be so! ))) Moreover, as they wanted, they called us that!


        Yeah, well, yes, but you yourself probably learned to write and read :)
        Education and health care probably you did not have from soviet times.
        Your cities probably also remained from Genghis Khan :)
        1. Aposlya
          Aposlya 6 November 2017 17: 10
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          Quote: alexmach
          Your cities probably also remained from Genghis Khan :)

          In fact, they still stood before Genghis Khan ...
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 6 November 2017 19: 47
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            Because prefabricated houses and built up?
  49. vnord
    vnord 28 October 2017 12: 12
    +1
    The Russian Empire taught the Kazakhs to read and write, and now ..................
  50. haenx
    haenx 28 October 2017 15: 52
    0
    distract from: rising fuel prices, inflation, pension reform; Operation successor "come and help." has begun.
    So the successor will be with the pro-Russian program, i.e. in its presidential program, it will indicate a reduction in fuel prices, strengthen tenge against the dollar, and it is natural to freeze the transition to the Latin alphabet. In this case, the electorate of the northeastern regions comprising 70% of the population will vote for the pro-Russian successor.
    1. Zalym
      Zalym 28 October 2017 18: 21
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      Quote: haenx
      distract from: rising fuel prices, inflation, pension reform; Operation successor "come and help." has begun.


      Haha, and if you are not distracted, are you able to do something? And oppose the government? Yes, hell there. laughing

      Quote: haenx
      In this case, the electorate of the northeastern regions comprising 70% of the population will vote for the pro-Russian successor.


      The northeast electorate is actually the smallest.
      1. haenx
        haenx 28 October 2017 19: 41
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        The second person in Kazakhstan, Marat Tazhin, is a PR technologist and propagandist, well aware of the historical continuity of the alliance with Russia. But the southern and western regions represented by the Kalmyrzaev, Musin, Ryskeldinov, Olzhaev, Ablyazov clans play the national patriotic, religious, pseudo-anti-corruption card of the “color revolution”. The pro-government elite represented by the Masimovs Kulebaevs, Mashkevichs, Patokh, Utemuratovs, etc., isolates the financial support of the western southerners (the arrests of the Tuleshov, Tokmadi, Ryskeldinovs, the redemption of assets for nothing and the emigration of Smagulovs, etc.) weaken the possibilities of pro-Western and pro-Turkish and Arab-minded western-southerners. In the west and south, controlled Maidans may flare up, which can displace the Nazarbayev family. In order to enlist the support of the North-Eastern, central regions (Karaganda region Pavlodar Ust-Kamenogorsk, Kustanai, Semipalatinsk, Tselinograd, Kokshetai, Dzhezkazgan), a HYIP decree is being introduced on the introduction of the Latin alphabet, more than 10 million people live in the above-mentioned regions, most of which are pro-Russian-minded The electorate, in terms of the number of voters superior to the southern and western regions, can vote in a referendum for the successor of Nazarbayev with a pro-Russian program. With this story, the southern and western clans will have nothing to oppose.
        1. Zalym
          Zalym 28 October 2017 20: 55
          0
          Do you even know that Nazarbayev is a southerner? And the whole government is made up of southerners.
          1. haenx
            haenx 28 October 2017 21: 17
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            read wikipedia. Judging by how he dealt with Kalmyrzaev and Musin, and holds Ablyazov’s wife and daughter hostage and built the capital of Astana, closer to Russia, with a gold depository, I think Nazarbayev will not allow the clan of southerners and Westerners to control the country. And at the expense of the southerners' government, I can say it is cardboard and nominal posts. The government is controlled by security forces whose key posts are given to Karaganda residents. In addition, core assets to keep clans in central areas. If the capital were in Almaty, then the Nazarbayev family would have long been ousted in retaliation by Nurkadilov and Altynbek Sarsembaev. Also, I am confused by the location of the Soros headquarters in the south, more precisely in Almaty, where the Pentagon virological laboratory is located.
            1. Zalym
              Zalym 28 October 2017 23: 14
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              But nothing that the security forces are also southerners. Uncle Kolya for example. I repeat, almost the entire government consists of southerners and Nazarbayev himself is also a southerner. State Security - Masimov Uyghur, and all his deputies and other leaders of the KNB are also southerners.
              Who are the Karaganda residents in power? Nigmatullins, yes. Only they are generally Hoji, i.e. neutral aristocratic clan.
              As for Astana, he transferred the capital there so that the North of the country would not fall off to Russia and transported all of its southerners to Astana. And actively populates the southerners north.
              You seem to live in some other country.
              1. haenx
                haenx 29 October 2017 11: 22
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                Southerners have already weakened, there was only Shukeyev. And in Zhanaozen commanders of explosives from the east and Karaganda, if Uncle Kolya was a southerner, he would send a southern military district to Zhanaozen. The north of Kazakhstan could not have split off, to delimit the territory, Nazarbav signed a memorandum at the UN on the non-freezing of the territory, on the contrary, due to historical circumstances, the East can break away from which the capital has moved away.
                1. Zalym
                  Zalym 29 October 2017 12: 15
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                  Southerners have already weakened, only Shukeyev is left


                  Yeah, and Prime Minister Sagintayev. And almost all the other ministers. And the top leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the National Security Committee. And the Minister of Defense Zhasuzakov.

                  Quote: haenx
                  would Uncle Kolya be a southerner


                  Born in 1957 in the village of Dmitriyevka, Ili district, Almaty region. lol

                  Quote: haenx
                  And in Zhanaozen commanders of explosives from the east and Karaganda


                  That's right, as a more Russified part of the Kazakhs.

                  Quote: haenx
                  The north of Kazakhstan could not have split off, to delimit the territory, Nazarbav signed a memorandum at the UN on the non-freezing of the territory, on the contrary, due to historical circumstances, the East can break away from which the capital has moved away.


                  Just as I could. An example of Ukraine is hinting.
                  1. haenx
                    haenx 29 October 2017 12: 24
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                    Are Almaty people related to the southern clans - are they Shaprashtins? The southern clans include konyrats and dulats, Albans ....
                    East is Russified - in the east live Naiman who send their children to study in Barnaul and Novosibirsk, Tomsk; in the east, the Navalnovsky meme "Ocupei Abai" was born, and in Karaganda Golovkin was born, he is, to the bone, a Kazakh patriot
                    1. Zalym
                      Zalym 29 October 2017 13: 34
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                      Quote: haenx
                      Are Almaty people related to the southern clans - are they Shaprashtins? The southern clans include konyrats and dulats, Albans ....


                      Shaprashty are the same southerners as the rest.

                      Quote: haenx
                      East is Russified - in the east live Naiman who send their children to study in Barnaul and Novosibirsk, Tomsk; in the east, the Navalnovsky meme "Ocupei Abai" was born, and in Karaganda Golovkin was born, he is, to the bone, a Kazakh patriot


                      Compared to the southerners, some more Russified. I know Karaganda very well.
                      1. haenx
                        haenx 29 October 2017 19: 56
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                        vice versa compared to the southeast speak right? let's say the word “there” or “here” is pronounced linguistic incorrectly in the south, but Iқ and bu Iқ, and in the east and Karaganda, the linguistic ones are pronounced correctly according to the rules: ana jac and bull jac. Therefore, these southerners departed from the Kazakh language.
                        And the Shaprashtins were sent to Almaty from the north, their skin and konyrats do not slaughter because they are descendants of Timur, and lame Timur was not Genghiside.