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The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine completes the new brigade with the Soviet "Shilka"

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The Ukrainian command, which forms new brigades, is forced to return to the system the equipment of the Soviet times. So, experiencing a shortage of military air defense weapons, the Kiev generals again called into service the famous Shilka - ZSU-23-4, reports Messenger of Mordovia.


The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine completes the new brigade with the Soviet "Shilka"


Restoration of "Shilok" engaged in Balakley repair factory.

Judging by the photo and video materials of Ukroboronprom, ZSU-23-4 undergo only major repairs.

“There are no new-fashioned thermal imaging sights that allow you to destroy targets day and night, in smoke and bad weather conditions, by car. The existing radar is also not upgraded. That is, "Shilka" goes to the troops in the form in which it was released 35 years ago. Accordingly, it has limited capabilities in the fight against modern air targets, ”writes the author of the material Lev Romanov.



However, “when using certain tactics, the professionalism of the crew and lucky circumstances, there are still chances of destroying various types of aircraft, so the Shilka continues to be in service with many more countries of the world, including the Russian army,” he notes.



Since the LPR and DPR from aviation only drones, ZSU-23-4, are likely to be used to destroy ground targets. In this capacity, self-propelled guns still constitute a formidable force.
Photos used:
Ukroboronprom
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  1. oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 27 October 2017 12: 11 New
    +9
    Cool car Shilka! It’s a pity, it fell into the wrong hands. They would have something more original!
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 27 October 2017 12: 13 New
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      Quote: oldseaman1957
      Cool car Shilka! It’s a pity, it fell into the wrong hands.

      Cool but Soviet / Sovkova, so Chubaty must abandon the "scoop" and wait for elf weapons.
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 27 October 2017 12: 23 New
        +9
        Quote: Scoun
        Cool but Soviet / Sovkova, so Chubaty must abandon the "scoop" and wait for elf weapons.

        in-in, but what about decommunization?
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 27 October 2017 13: 47 New
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          "Shilka" continue to be in service with many more states of the world, including the Russian army, "


          Shilohniki DMB - 77. I am top right, second right Popov Volga, third top right Pachyulis from Lithuania, further from Uzbekistan, lower right Volodya from Kharkov, lower left Levchenko from Ukraine, third row Volodya Koryev from Khabarovsk. Guys we served together. Where are you now?
          1. amr
            amr 29 October 2017 22: 01 New
            0
            mdya ... already scattered all .... I wonder how they evaluate this service?
      2. stolz
        stolz 27 October 2017 12: 24 New
        +4
        I can not say anything about the fight against aviation, but the spirits in Afghanistan still probably remember the “shaitan arba” as they called “Shilka”.
        1. abc_alex
          abc_alex 29 October 2017 01: 47 New
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          Only, EMNIP then removed the radar and calculator from it and increased the ammunition at this expense.
      3. LSA57
        LSA57 27 October 2017 13: 41 New
        +8
        Quote: Scoun
        wait for elf weapons.

        samples are already there
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 27 October 2017 12: 17 New
      10
      But what about the law of communization? Oh well, the law is not written for the prickly horses. laughing
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 27 October 2017 12: 24 New
        +6
        thoughts came together hi
    3. sq
      sq 27 October 2017 12: 19 New
      +2
      Equipment in the hands of OrLOFF, which the tree is pecking, a pile of scrap metal.
    4. LSA57
      LSA57 27 October 2017 13: 39 New
      +6
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      Cool car Shilka! It’s a pity, it fell into the wrong hands. They would have something more original!

      will it go?
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 27 October 2017 14: 22 New
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        Shilohniki DMB - 77. I am top right, second right Popov Volga, third top right Pachyulis from Lithuania, further from Uzbekistan, lower right Volodya from Kharkov, lower left Levchenko from Ukraine, third row Volodya Koryev from Khabarovsk. Guys we served together. Where are you now?
        there was a crew ... I have the same .. sorry, fate left. mine will not shoot at me ... and I ...
  2. vorobey
    vorobey 27 October 2017 12: 12 New
    +5
    I think in the LPR and DPR there are enough demotivators for these shushpantser for other purposes ..
  3. ded100
    ded100 27 October 2017 12: 15 New
    +5
    Yes, America does not give lethal weapons, it is necessary for the USSR to turn like that! laughing
    1. Uryukc
      Uryukc 27 October 2017 14: 24 New
      +2
      And why Ukrainian patriots do not decommunize the strongest army on the continent, I can not understand.
  4. Livonetc
    Livonetc 27 October 2017 12: 17 New
    +6
    "Shilka" goes to the troops in the form in which it was released 35 years ago. Accordingly, she has limited opportunities to combat modern air targets, ”writes Lev Romanov, the author of the material.
    The goals for these machines will be different.
    Similar to Syrian.
  5. Coconut
    Coconut 27 October 2017 12: 17 New
    +3
    Shilka work well on line of sight on the infantry (Syria example) they can’t work on modern aircraft ... question .. what the hell shiloh Khokhlam. ??? Who saw the thread in Ukraine desert ?? I think that Ukraine is ready to put in troops at least something that shoots lol
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 27 October 2017 12: 32 New
      +6
      Who saw the thread in Ukraine desert ??




      He went to the Donetsk steppe, a young guy .... And in Priazovye, dust storms sometimes occur. (when the last Stalinist forest belts are made for firewood, there will be more storms) Ukraine, this is not only Poltava and not only Polesye. In Nikolaev and Kherson region, the climate is partially reminiscent of Kazakh, although there is no ATO there. And so you are right, they send everything that shoots there.

      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 27 October 2017 12: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        send everything that shoots there.

        and not only shoots
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 27 October 2017 13: 44 New
          +7
          Quote: pjastolov
          and not only shoots

          but can prick
          1. soaring
            soaring 29 October 2017 15: 13 New
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            Damn, since I see this Australopithecus .... Is it real !!! ???))) belay
  6. sergo1914
    sergo1914 27 October 2017 12: 25 New
    +3
    The guidance system there, of course, is infernal. But even boats with six-pointed stars drowned. In Egypt.
  7. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 27 October 2017 12: 31 New
    +3
    with ... a successful combination of circumstances, there are still chances of destroying aircraft of various types
    There is 21st century on the street, and the strongest army on the continent hopes for good circumstances laughing
  8. gukoyan
    gukoyan 27 October 2017 12: 37 New
    +2
    But what about decommunization ????
  9. Sergey53
    Sergey53 27 October 2017 12: 45 New
    +2
    What Soviet, yes you sho. I spent the whole night riveting myself. The tszd is zrada.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 27 October 2017 13: 45 New
      +6
      Quote: Sergey53
      What Soviet, yes you sho. Usya night riveted themselves.

  10. Egorovich
    Egorovich 27 October 2017 12: 51 New
    +5
    And how do they equip new brigades? There are no developments of any kind, so at least thanks to the USSR. But what about the complete decommunization in Khokhlostan? Or this is irrelevant.
  11. Romanenko
    Romanenko 27 October 2017 14: 25 New
    +1
    In the offensive, Shilka is unlikely to help the APU, then there is no armor ...
    And to defend themselves from what helicopters and planes they gathered?
    Or to water along the dense chains of the advancing DPR-LPR infantry?
    So for now, the Armed Forces of Ukraine all acts and comes.
    In the process, the process of stripping the gallows began, something needs to be delivered to the troops, dumb pennies, and Shilok a lot ...
    Petya there something about hundreds of Strongholds rattled, probably instead they will ride.
  12. XXXIII
    XXXIII 27 October 2017 14: 26 New
    +2
    Since the LC and the DPR from aviation are only drones, the ZSU-23-4 is likely to be used to destroy ground targets. In this capacity, the self-propelled gun still represents a formidable force.
    yes garbage, LDNR hail level the earth, just let the earthworms come out ...... angry
  13. Fkjydjckfrgh
    Fkjydjckfrgh 27 October 2017 14: 49 New
    +1
    There is little funny. against a sniper, for example, and letting the tank go is not considered shameful. and shilka is more effective in this respect, and it can "lick" the tank to complete sky-readyness.
    1. Romanenko
      Romanenko 27 October 2017 21: 49 New
      +2
      I wouldn’t dare to lick a tank on Shilka, there’s a big difference in the range of a direct shot. If you start licking, you’ll quickly remain without a tongue, or maybe without a head.
      Against the tank on Shilka, of course it is possible, but either from hopelessness or from an ambush.
      As a counter-sniper weapon is also ineffective, peeling a broom on it is not clear where the sitting sniper is not ice, as they say.
      But to suppress a couple of platoons sitting on the defensive, somewhere from 800 m, it can go through, you don’t need to fly closer than RPG-7 400 meters, ATGMs are much further - drive everyone into the cracks and dugouts while the infantry is pulling up. This is Shilke’s shoulder, the main thing is that from the other side the ATGM does not arrive or the RPG does not reach.
  14. Catherine II
    Catherine II 27 October 2017 14: 55 New
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    Judging by the photo and video materials of Ukroboronprom, ZSU-23-4 undergo only major repairs

    they are there in plain text written-removal from conservation and bringing to combat readiness. Plus the saturation of the existing forces. Against infantry and UAVs. They recognize that it is outdated (it was replaced by Tunguska back in the USSR), but at the moment Shilka’s qualities are in demand in such conflicts, they can and will help. There are upgrades, but the MoD solves the problems of saturation and, therefore, so far only basic equipment.
    Since 2014, the Balakley Repair Plant repaired about a hundred units of military equipment and weapons, fully and promptly fulfilling the state defense order for this enterprise.
  15. Yoshi
    Yoshi 27 October 2017 16: 44 New
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    And where do they get it? Buying outside the EU? Or in Moldova?
  16. Andrey Kandakov
    Andrey Kandakov 27 October 2017 20: 43 New
    0
    so it will be, soon one and a half at the front line will appear, probably still somewhere preserved on NZ
  17. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 27 October 2017 23: 45 New
    +1
    Yes, these “Shilka” in the hands of the Armed Forces will bring many problems to the army of Donbass ... This is an analogue of ZU-23-2 in the Urals or another platform, to jump out to work for targets and back to cover, only at Shilka ZU-23-4, that is, in twice as many trunks, and therefore the fire will be denser ...
    1. Romanenko
      Romanenko 28 October 2017 22: 49 New
      +1
      Already who will have a lot of problems with Shilki, so most likely the APU.
      The machine is narrowly specialized - to cover the columns. It can be used as efficiently as possible from helicopter attacks at ranges of up to 1-1,5 km.
      The DNI and LC have no helicopters.
      And to fight the infantry, she needs the most serious cover. As a target, it is almost perfect - large size and light armor. In addition, the package of trunks has a very small negative angle of aiming, that is, it does not shine to shoot at ravines, except to raise the backside.
      The Syrians use it in battle, but for this they make it a very serious kit.
      As for the comparison with Zushka - Shilka is much stronger - here it will not work to compare by the number of trunks.
      Its trunks shoot faster than the ZU-23-2, more precisely and further, due to the serious suspension and liquid cooling of the trunks.
  18. Guest171-Again
    Guest171-Again 29 October 2017 00: 26 New
    +1
    Shilka is designed for shaving with low-flying, high-speed, air targets, as well as ground targets. Escort of columns on the march (tanks) is far from everything. Normally they dig a caponier (4 hours standard, as I remember right now), mask, and wait. ., I’ll add, a platoon-4 cars are located at the indicated line. The machine is very serious, at one time it had no equal in the world, and even today if it doesn’t seem enough, it’s really a pity that it’s in the wrong hands, but about “good circumstances” , it seems that they will not interfere with modern geeks.