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US Air Force Armed with Small Bomb II (SDB II) Bombs

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Already next year, the US Air Force fighters will arm themselves with new winged mini-bombs. According to the scout.com portal, the US Air Force has completed the main phase of testing the Small Diameter Bomb II (SDB II) bombs.


Raytheon, the company that developed the new bombs, indicates that tests were conducted for compatibility with F-15 aircraft. The testing cycle showed full compliance with the stated requirements, and next year the US Air Force command plans to start using new ammunition. During the last test, the bomb hit a "moving at tactical speed" layout tank T-72.

US Air Force Armed with Small Bomb II (SDB II) Bombs


The development of the Small Diameter Bomb II, also known as the GBU-53 / B, was launched in 2006. In 2015, the US Department of Defense ordered an experimental batch of ammunition (144 units), and in the near future their mass production will start. The US Air Force also plans to arm F-35A aircraft with SDB II bombs, and the command of the US Navy is considering using them on F-18 fighters.

The SDB II is a bomb-class 100-kilogram class (the mass of ammunition is 113 kg). The bomb is capable of hitting static targets at a distance of 110 km and destroying moving equipment at a distance of 70 km from the point of discharge. The military department plans to partially replace SDB II guided missiles, the cost of which is much higher with similar capabilities, reports "Warspot"

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  1. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 27 October 2017 10: 11 New
    +7
    Great weapon. It will undoubtedly be in great demand.
    1. The black
      The black 27 October 2017 10: 14 New
      +6
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Great weapon

      How do you know? ... only an experimental batch was ordered wink
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 27 October 2017 10: 18 New
        12
        and for them, everything that spews out, or is just trying, Amer’s VPK, is originally a luxury. they cannot fail to find what ultimately falls into them.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 27 October 2017 10: 19 New
        +5
        Quote: Black

        How do you know? ... only an experimental batch was ordered wink

        The fact is that ours has long been using an analogue of this bomb. Including for attacks in Syria.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 27 October 2017 10: 21 New
          10
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Including for attacks in Syria.


          Are you fighting IS?
          1. The black
            The black 27 October 2017 10: 26 New
            18
            Quote: vorobey
            Are you fighting IS?

            Yes. Shoulder to shoulder. laughing
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 27 October 2017 12: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: Black
              Quote: vorobey
              Are you fighting IS?

              Yes. Shoulder to shoulder. laughing

              ISIS too. Basically we beat Hezbollah and Assad, because shells fly to us from his territory.
          2. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 27 October 2017 10: 27 New
            +5
            Quote: vorobey


            Are you fighting IS?

            We are not at war with anyone. We are conducting a targeted elimination of promising threats. IG near our northern border rarely appeared. And those who appeared tried not to run up. Well, if they ran into it, they died. But mostly ours are hunting for Hezbollah rockets.
            1. The black
              The black 27 October 2017 10: 31 New
              16
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              We conduct targeted elimination of promising threats

              Sounds nice good ... but earlier everything was somehow ugly - "striking the territory of a sovereign state" laughing
              1. aszzz888
                aszzz888 27 October 2017 10: 53 New
                +3
                Black Today, 10: 31 ↑ New
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                We conduct targeted elimination of promising threats
                Good sounds beautiful ... but before it was all ugly - "striking the territory of a sovereign state" laughing

                ... yeah, on the arrival of a self-made rocket that fell in the wasteland, they equaled the quarters of Palestine ... bully
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 27 October 2017 13: 03 New
                  +1
                  Quote: aszzz888
                  Black Today, 10: 31 ↑ New
                  Quote: Aaron Zawi
                  We conduct targeted elimination of promising threats
                  Good sounds beautiful ... but before it was all ugly - "striking the territory of a sovereign state" laughing

                  ... yeah, on the arrival of a self-made rocket that fell in the wasteland, they equaled the quarters of Palestine ... bully

                  Quarters were equalized when Palestinians fell into cities with hail, Katyusha, fajers (Katyusha with an improved engine, long-range), etc.
                  Most of them were shot down, of course ...
                  I would have resettled the people of Gaza in Somalia, and in the place of the Sector I would make a parking lot, set up parks, build guest houses ... Eh ...
                  1. fzr1000
                    fzr1000 27 October 2017 17: 54 New
                    0
                    You don’t mow near Krasnodar, Krasnodar does not need to resettle the inhabitants of Gaza.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 28 October 2017 19: 12 New
                      0
                      Quote: fzr1000
                      You don’t mow near Krasnodar, Krasnodar does not need to resettle the inhabitants of Gaza.

                      I am an Israeli living in Krasnodar. )))
                      1. CT-55_11-9009
                        CT-55_11-9009 30 October 2017 08: 38 New
                        0
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        I am an Israeli living in Krasnodar. )))

                        Hmmm. What did you forget in Russia?
              2. Hammerlock
                Hammerlock 28 October 2017 06: 52 New
                0
                even Khazanov remembered:
                - There is one small but very nimble nation
            2. vorobey
              vorobey 27 October 2017 10: 33 New
              +6
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              But mostly ours are hunting for Hezbollah rockets.


              but what do you shoot down missiles with bombs? this is promising .. the truth is probably confusing Hezbollah missiles with Syrian air defense missiles ..
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 27 October 2017 10: 34 New
                +3
                Quote: vorobey

                but what do you shoot down missiles with bombs? this is promising .. the truth is probably confusing Hezbollah missiles with Syrian air defense missiles ..

                This is Syria’s air defense confusing something.
        2. The black
          The black 27 October 2017 10: 25 New
          +6
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          ours have long been using an analogue of this bomb

          The analogue is almost the same, but not the same! laughing
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 27 October 2017 10: 28 New
            +4
            Quote: Black
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            ours have long been using an analogue of this bomb

            The analogue is almost the same, but not the same! laughing



            Tssssss ... don’t say that they were stabbed again .. laughing
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 27 October 2017 10: 32 New
              +4
              Quote: vorobey



              Tssssss ... don’t say that they were stabbed again .. laughing

              Only if yourself.

              Rafael Manufacturing.
              Depending on the modification, the bomb weighs from 150 kg, 453 kg to 907 kg.
              The bomb is capable of hitting targets within a radius of 100 km.
              Accuracy - 3 m.
              In 2003, the bomb was adopted by the Israeli Air Force - installed on F-16 aircraft (1 F-16 aircraft can carry 16 Spice-250 bombs). In addition to Israel, adopted in Greece.



    2. Finches
      Finches 27 October 2017 10: 22 New
      12
      "The war begins. The Jew laments:
      - What is going on! How much needs to be done! Send a wife and child to America, sell a business, transfer money to Switzerland. And you yourself need to have time for Aunt Tsile in England ....
      Nearby is a Russian and says:
      - Yes ... And I also have problems ...
      “I beg you, what Russian problems can you have?” He took a rifle - and to the front! "
      laughing
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 27 October 2017 13: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        "The war begins. The Jew laments:
        - What is going on! How much needs to be done! Send a wife and child to America, sell a business, transfer money to Switzerland. And you yourself need to have time for Aunt Tsile in England ....
        Nearby is a Russian and says:
        - Yes ... And I also have problems ...
        “I beg you, what Russian problems can you have?” He took a rifle - and to the front! "
        laughing

        But in life it's the other way around :)
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 27 October 2017 17: 56 New
          +2
          In what life? In your illusions?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 28 October 2017 18: 32 New
            0
            Quote: fzr1000
            In what life? In your illusions?

            I remember that in my reserve unit during the second Lebanon war of 2006, I saw many strangers. They turned out to be guys who did not come to training camps for 7-10 years due to the fact that they lived outside of Israel. Some in the States, Moscow and Canada (businessmen), some in Germany (general director of a high-tech company), some in Italy (designer) and a photographer (model) from France. All successful people, everyone came to the war voluntarily.
            Yes, and I am impressed that you call me to you ...))))
            Together they did a march on a beret, didn't they? :)
    3. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 27 October 2017 10: 35 New
      0
      This is again against the Papuans, did I understand correctly? If the drop point is 70-110 km from the target, then this bomb is an ideal target for the Shell, for example.
      1. raw174
        raw174 27 October 2017 10: 57 New
        +7
        Quote: Hagalaz
        This is again against the Papuans, did I understand correctly? If the drop point is 70-110 km from the target, then this bomb is an ideal target for the Shell, for example.

        Don’t tell ... you can’t put a bite to every tank of anti-aircraft gunners ... I need protection on a combat vehicle ...
        1. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 27 October 2017 13: 29 New
          +1
          Yes to anything to everyone. One Shell / Column is enough. The speed of the bomb is low, and here the guns must cope. And the aircraft still needs to overcome the general air defense system. Risking the plane so that with an unknown probability to destroy an unknown number of tanks? In my opinion, this ammunition is for those cases when the enemy’s air defense is either absent or suppressed. Or bomb the wedding procession.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 27 October 2017 13: 41 New
            0
            Quote: Hagalaz
            Yes to anything to everyone. One Shell / Column is enough. The speed of the bomb is low, and here the guns must cope. And the aircraft still needs to overcome the general air defense system. Risking the plane so that with an unknown probability to destroy an unknown number of tanks? In my opinion, this ammunition is for those cases when the enemy’s air defense is either absent or suppressed. Or bomb the wedding procession.

            If the enemy has anti-aircraft defense during an attack, EW means, false targets, etc. are reconciled.
            1. Hagalaz
              Hagalaz 27 October 2017 15: 12 New
              +1
              And the enemy retaliates. Against reb systems and directors including. What you are talking about is the process of overcoming air defense. With no known result.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 27 October 2017 17: 37 New
                0
                Quote: Hagalaz
                And the enemy retaliates. Against reb systems and directors including. What you are talking about is the process of overcoming air defense. With no known result.

                It is truth too
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 27 October 2017 11: 31 New
        +4
        No, it's just against a high-tech adversary. The bomb is hardly noticeable, and the plane from which it is launched as well. And besides, and cheap.
        1. Genry
          Genry 27 October 2017 23: 26 New
          0
          Quote: alexmach
          The bomb is hardly noticeable, and the plane from which it is launched as well.

          What do you think, at what altitude should this bomb be dropped to fly 100km?
          I’m hinting about the stealth of an airplane ...
          But the bomb itself is not difficult to shoot down, because it is not empty and plastic, but metal and heated.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 28 October 2017 00: 01 New
            +2
            You yourself, before hinting at the stealth of the aircraft, thought at what distance it is possible to detect it using modern air defense systems. Probably the most-maximum of those written in advertising materials?

            But the bomb itself is not difficult to shoot down, because it is not empty and plastic, but metal and heated.

            Not difficult? And 2 at the same time? and 4 in a salvo that stealth can easily carry? and 8 which he can carry without having explosive missiles? and all this is only in the internal compartments. and 16 from two stealth? and 28, which one f-15 is capable of carrying?

            And to what temperature do they warm up to you? planning small bombs then.

            No. If anything, I’m not trying to say that this bomb is a panacea and a child prodigy, and that, in principle, it is in no way possible to counteract it. I just want to say that this is a very serious weapon, and it’s a pity that they don’t have one.
            1. Genry
              Genry 29 October 2017 09: 17 New
              0
              Quote: alexmach
              You yourself, before hinting at the stealth of the aircraft, thought at what distance it is possible to detect it using modern air defense systems. Probably the most-maximum of those written in advertising materials?

              At high altitudes, the aircraft enters the line of sight of the ground-based detection station. At low altitudes, the plane is invisible due to the curvature of the planet (but visible from flying radars) and because of this same low altitude, only missiles can be used effectively. And stealth in the radio range - only in a narrow frequency range.
              Quote: alexmach
              Not difficult? And 2 at the same time? and 4 in a salvo that stealth can easily carry? and 8 which he can carry without having explosive missiles? and all this is only in the internal compartments. and 16 from two stealth? and 28, which one f-15 is capable of carrying?

              The mantra about stealth is no longer relevant. But they will not be allowed to fly up at high altitude.
              Quote: alexmach
              And to what temperature do they warm up to you? planning small bombs then.

              I don’t know to what ... Does not matter. The ratio of body temperature to its background is important (and this is not a warm planet "Earth").
              Quote: alexmach
              .... And that, in principle, it is in no way possible to counteract it. I just want to say that this is a very serious weapon, and it’s a pity that they don’t have one.

              A serious weapon is a similar missile (it can be used at any height, which dramatically increases the stealth of an aircraft at low altitudes) and the concept of Russian aviation is based on this principle. And not only aviation but also ground systems like Smerch-Hurricane.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 29 October 2017 12: 10 New
                0
                At high altitudes, the aircraft enters the line of sight of the ground detection station


                I asked you a simple question. At what distance, subject to the same high-altitude flight and direct visibility, the modern radar (well, say from the S-400) can detect the same notorious F-35? Are you sure that it is more than 100 km?

                The mantra about stealth is no longer relevant. But they will not be allowed to fly up at high altitude.

                Well, as it seems to me, life will show. The number of these very stealth in the armies of the world is only growing.

                I don’t know to what ... Does not matter. The ratio of body temperature to its background is important (and this is not a warm planet "Earth").

                What doesn’t play seriously? even if the temperature difference with the background suddenly becomes 1 degree Celsius? A half a degree?
                To draw conclusions about applicability, you still need to know and know a lot.

                A serious weapon is a similar rocket ..

                But the spacecraft with blasters ....
                There is nothing to talk about.
                1. Genry
                  Genry 29 October 2017 14: 33 New
                  0
                  Quote: alexmach
                  At what distance, subject to the same high-altitude flight and direct visibility, the modern radar (well, say from the S-400) can detect the same notorious F-35? Are you sure that it is more than 100 km?

                  F-35 is visible at any distance, with direct visibility, by a radar with a variable carrier frequency. The situation of resonance of a surface or cavity is caught. Naturally, this is not antediluvian radar but FAR or CAR.
                  Quote: alexmach
                  The number of these very stealth in the armies of the world is only growing.

                  In addition to America-owls, no one is obsessed with them. There was a wave of strongest PR, but it was already running out of steam.
                  Quote: alexmach
                  even if the temperature difference with the background suddenly becomes 1 degree Celsius? A half a degree?

                  Haha You have improved my mood. The temperature of the rocket is from minus 50 to plus 50 (roughly depends on altitude). But the background temperature ... if there is cosmic cold ...
                  Quote: alexmach
                  But the spacecraft with blasters ....
                  There is nothing to talk about.

                  How old are you? Although you do not confess ...
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 29 October 2017 18: 17 New
                    0
                    Haha You have improved my mood. The temperature of the rocket is from minus 50 to plus 50 (roughly depends on altitude). But the background temperature ... if there is cosmic cold ...

                    I am very glad that I improved your mood.
                    What kind of rocket? The engine accelerates the rocket, while it maintains high speed and friction with air is also quite high. We are talking about a planned bomb, without an engine; its planning speed is not high. Air friction not only heats it up but also slows it down. To talk about the possibility of its detection, one must still know to what temperature it is heated and the characteristics of optical detection devices. Without this information, it is just an empty shake of air.

                    The same goes for stealth. It is necessary in detail both the characteristics and abilities of the radars in service, as well as the characteristics of the aircraft. I unfortunately cannot substantively answer you here.

                    Except America Owls, no one is obsessed with them

                    Is it really so straightforward? Take an interest in the number of countries putting them into service or developing them. Russia, if anything, is one of them.

                    How old are you? Although you do not confess ...

                    Does this have anything to do with the topic of conversation? Decrypt - please:
                    Firstly, the more "serious and sophisticated" weapons, the more banal they cost and the less units industry can produce. In the arsenal, it makes sense to have both an expensive and perfect weapon and simpler. SDAB is far from the only type of air strike weapons in the arsenal of "partners".
                    Secondly, they occupy in the arsenal of partners ... the niche of free-falling bombs. Sorry, but compared to free-falling bombs, it’s almost a “spaceship”
                    Thirdly, you contrast the cheap and massive ammunition with the most advanced air defense systems, which in itself is stupid.
                    1. Genry
                      Genry 29 October 2017 19: 46 New
                      0
                      Quote: alexmach
                      What kind of rocket?

                      Strange, you did not understand that this is a reservation (slip).
                      Quote: alexmach
                      We are talking about a planned bomb .... To talk about the possibility of detecting it, one must still know to what temperature it is warming up

                      Let's just say that its temperature depends heavily on altitude and time after the plane takes off (ambient temperature is the main factor). But this does not play a role with such a strong contrast with the cold optical background of the sky (not air - air, does not play a role in the role of an optical system or medium).
                      Quote: alexmach
                      Does this have anything to do with the topic of conversation?

                      You yourself then moved away somewhere ...
                      Quote: alexmach
                      the more "serious and sophisticated" the weapon, the more banal it costs and the less units industry can produce.

                      The bomb under discussion is in the class of high-precision weapons and the addition of a rocket engine does not complicate it or increase its cost. The most expensive thing in a bomb is a control system that increases the cost by a couple of dozen times.
                      Quote: alexmach
                      You contrast the cheap and massive ammunition with the most modern air defense systems, which in itself is stupid.

                      You have beguiled here. I contrasted the air defense to the aircraft at a distance of 100km and a height of more than 10km. Flying bombs are easily knocked down by cheap art systems (23-30mm) with automated optoelectronic aiming units (which is why we talked about the temperature of the bomb and the contrast of the background).
                      https://topwar.ru/78524-zenitnye-ustanovki-semeys
                      tva-zu-23-30m1.html
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 29 October 2017 22: 38 New
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                        But this does not matter with such a strong contrast with the cold optical background of the sky

                        that is, following your logic, any falling object "glow" against the sky?
                        The bomb under discussion is in the class of high-precision weapons and the addition of a rocket engine does not complicate it or increase its cost.

                        Any new element complicates and increases the cost of the system, and, among other things, takes away volumes and weight. This bomb is good precisely for its dimensions and payload weight. Well, as well as the number of units that can be transported on one plane.

                        Flying bombs are easily knocked down by cheap art systems (23-30mm) with automated optoelectronic aiming units

                        Well, God forbid. The only where you saw them in service then? Bombs have long been in warehouses.
                    2. Genry
                      Genry 30 October 2017 12: 37 New
                      +1
                      Quote: alexmach
                      that is, following your logic, any falling object "glow" against the sky?

                      Yes exactly. Even against the background of relatively warm clouds.
                      All modern fighters are equipped with optical stations for detecting and targeting in the near zone, both against airplanes, and against other weapons and against the background of the earth.
                      But a new generation of ROFAR radars is already approaching, which combine the advantages of radio and optical detection i.e. see the picture but in the terrahertz radio range.
                      Quote: alexmach
                      Any new element complicates and increases the cost of the system, and, among other things, takes volumes and weight.

                      Yes, it is getting more expensive. But a mountain of cheap stones will never replace a highly accurate rocket. And these bombs can only be used against the Papuans without air defenses, shooting down an airplane at an average range of 100km and a height of 10km.
                      Quote: alexmach
                      Well, God forbid. The only where you saw them in service then? Bombs have long been in warehouses.

                      Everything is needed only where it is needed.
                      By the way, electronics is very poorly stored, an average of 6 years, and overhaul is needed in the form of a replacement for all degraded elements, components and power supplies.
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 30 October 2017 12: 41 New
                        0
                        Thank you for clarifying your opinion.
      3. ZVO
        ZVO 27 October 2017 13: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Hagalaz
        This is again against the Papuans, did I understand correctly? If the drop point is 70-110 km from the target, then this bomb is an ideal target for the Shell, for example.


        Will the shell see such a baby?
        1. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 27 October 2017 15: 05 New
          0
          Quote: ZVO
          Quote: Hagalaz
          This is again against the Papuans, did I understand correctly? If the drop point is 70-110 km from the target, then this bomb is an ideal target for the Shell, for example.


          Will the shell see such a baby?

          Is the XNUMX-kilogram class baby? It is stated that the shell and copter can see. Here the question of distancing to the goal. My friend served on Osa. Tells (and he did not yap) once a soaring eagle spotted. True, I had to send a helicopter in order to classify the target.
    4. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 27 October 2017 10: 50 New
      +1
      During the last test, the bomb hit a "moving at tactical speed" model of the T-72 tank.

      And what kind of guidance system? From the moment of dumping for tens of kilometers, the target can move quite far!
      1. ukoft
        ukoft 27 October 2017 11: 46 New
        0
        by static by jeepies,
        by movable thermal radiation
    5. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 27 October 2017 12: 09 New
      0
      Significant price difference?
      glider with BB + GOS + engine + some fuel = X
      glider with BB + GOS = Y
      saving how much%?
  2. Yoshi
    Yoshi 27 October 2017 10: 15 New
    +1
    Interesting news. Experience shows that increasing the assortment while saving on production (without loss of product quality) leads to an increase in the number of units in the ranks.
  3. Old26
    Old26 27 October 2017 10: 32 New
    +5
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Great weapon. It will undoubtedly be in great demand.

    Yes, an interesting option. Almost now in countries with weak air defense, more precisely in countries where there are no complexes capable of hitting targets like bombs and missiles from such combos there will be no salvation. A strike at the base of the same naval base with several dozens of such bombs will allow, if not destroy the ships, then disable them. And in combination with bombs that can pierce concrete floors - for an air base this is also death. Well. For information of future buyers. Russia has such a complex as Tor. capable of hitting bombs as well. Line up gentlemen
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 27 October 2017 12: 12 New
      0
      Against such weapons, air defense systems are not a panacea. It’s too expensive to shoot at the disc, even with wings and the simplest seeker.
      Only electronic warfare and optical camouflage.
      Well and inflatable layouts.
  4. san4es
    san4es 27 October 2017 11: 13 New
    +3

    Small-sized guided bombs SDB II is the first in the next generation of intelligent weapons that uses a multi-mode guidance system and a fully integrated data channel to hit moving targets in bad weather conditions or in high-intensity combat conditions.
    SDB II is designed to equip 4th and 5th generation fighters, including F-15E Air Force, F-35B ILC and F-35C U.S. Navy. The GBU-53 / B is also compatible with the F-35A, F-22 and F-16C / D Air Force, as well as the US Navy F / A-18E / F.
    SDB II can hit targets at ranges of more than 40 miles. The aerial bomb has a powerful warhead capable of destroying armored targets, but creates minimal collateral damage due to a small explosive effect. This is a very high-precision munition and offers the military the ability to retarget the channel of the exchange of data that is transferred to the weapon during the flight.
    The bomb is equipped with a three-mode guidance system - millimeter-wave radar, uncooled infrared and semi-active laser. These three modes allow you to find and destroy targets even in adverse weather conditions, increasing the range of destruction by choosing the most favorable guidance mode. The Pentagon has spent more than $ 700 million on the program

    http://nevskii-bastion.ru/gbu-53/
  5. Old26
    Old26 27 October 2017 11: 23 New
    +2
    Quote: Starover_Z
    During the last test, the bomb hit a "moving at tactical speed" model of the T-72 tank.

    And what kind of guidance system? From the moment of dumping for tens of kilometers, the target can move quite far!

    Not as far as it seems. For example, a bomb is dropped from an airplane on a moving target from a distance of 70 km. It is dumped, for example, at a speed of 500 km / h. So it will fly to the target for 8,5 minutes (provided that it has the same speed of 500 km / h). During this time, a tank traveling at a speed of 30 km / h will depart at 4,25 km. I don’t think that the bomb will have a narrow guidance system. Most likely the viewing angle will be somewhere +/- 45 degrees. So defeat is quite possible. Of course, this bomb will not be able to cope with a fast-moving target such as a car, but for such purposes there are the same missiles with a laser or TV guidance system and drones as carriers. In general, the psm system is interesting and promising
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 27 October 2017 12: 23 New
      0
      The target must be captured at the speaker. Millimeter-wave radar and infrared seeker at 70 km capture only in polygon conditions. Is it for naval targets ... Using a laser from the carrier at such a range, illuminate until the moment of defeat, substituting under air defense? Also not an option. Only if there is an anti-aircraft defense group and a cover group. Then where is the savings?
      According to Lukashenko, someone is the mouth.
      Either the effective range is less than stated, say 25-35 km, or the price of this pepelats is much higher (costs AGSN).
      Another drank green money?
    2. Genry
      Genry 27 October 2017 23: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Old26
      During this time, a tank traveling at a speed of 30 km / h will depart at 4,25 km.

      During this time, the tank is so far away and there is no need to go. Surely he will find either a shelter or a counteraction system.
  6. Livonetc
    Livonetc 27 October 2017 11: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Starover_Z
    During the last test, the bomb hit a "moving at tactical speed" model of the T-72 tank.

    And what kind of guidance system? From the moment of dumping for tens of kilometers, the target can move quite far!

    Not as far as it seems. For example, a bomb is dropped from an airplane on a moving target from a distance of 70 km. It is dumped, for example, at a speed of 500 km / h. So it will fly to the target for 8,5 minutes (provided that it has the same speed of 500 km / h). During this time, a tank traveling at a speed of 30 km / h will depart at 4,25 km. I don’t think that the bomb will have a narrow guidance system. Most likely the viewing angle will be somewhere +/- 45 degrees. So defeat is quite possible. Of course, this bomb will not be able to cope with a fast-moving target such as a car, but for such purposes there are the same missiles with a laser or TV guidance system and drones as carriers. In general, the psm system is interesting and promising


    Interested in the term "tactical speed.
    Found only this.
    "The tactical speed of tanks is the quotient of dividing the length of the march of the tank division by the time it is made."
    So what speed can it be?
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 27 October 2017 12: 24 New
      +1
      speed from the American instruction to the tank driver.
  7. askme
    askme 27 October 2017 12: 18 New
    +1
    New small-sized shells for the Shell (which are four each in a standard container of a regular shell Shell) - cheaper ....)
    1. Genry
      Genry 27 October 2017 23: 41 New
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      Quote: askme
      New small-sized shells for the Shell (which are four each in a standard container of a regular shell Shell) - cheaper ....)

      No shell is needed for such a bomb. There are cheaper cannon systems with optical guidance stations (Pine-A).
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 28 October 2017 02: 07 New
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        Pine-A-towed, you just need a Pine, but it is not yet purchased by the Moscow Region.
        1. Genry
          Genry 29 October 2017 09: 34 New
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          Quote: fzr1000
          Pine-A-towed

          Pine-A (art.) Cannon.
          Pine-R missile.
          The chassis can be anything within the carrying capacity. Why do not buy ... we'll see later.
  8. Guru
    Guru 27 October 2017 12: 35 New
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    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Black

    How do you know? ... only an experimental batch was ordered wink

    The fact is that ours has long been using an analogue of this bomb. Including for attacks in Syria.

    The Americans have not yet developed, and God's chosen ones have analogues. The question arises: What did they develop there if it has long been used in Israel. wink Again cut and development
    1. ADT
      ADT 27 October 2017 14: 15 New
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      God-bearer, guidance systems are different. Who prefers optical, and who is micro radar.
      1. ADT
        ADT 27 October 2017 14: 24 New
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        At the same - The key element of the SDB II is a technology called the "three-mode" finder - this is a guidance system that can direct weapons using a millimeter-wave radar, uncooled infrared image and semi-active laser technology. Also, she has feedback from the carrier.
        Israeli may have other features.
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 27 October 2017 21: 15 New
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    I understand everything, but how to look for a target and aim? Such a range, it’s from 10 km, probably? Well, the radar is understandable, but how can a moving tank find and aim a bomb?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 October 2017 22: 18 New
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      Using UAVs, satellites and ground-based detection systems.
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 27 October 2017 23: 26 New
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        Well, yes, but the air defense will sleep at that time in the pillow ... and at what distance will the target be captured by a millimeter-wide seeker?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 October 2017 00: 24 New
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          If the UAV is high-altitude like Global Hawk air defense systems it will be difficult to get it, and small drones will fly low, with the envelope of the terrain - for air defense systems this is also a problem. This bomb will be used when most of the air defense will be destroyed. Her GSN will be able to capture the target at a distance of 7 kilometers, and before that it will be guided by a satellite and radar from the AFAR of a fighter-bomber.
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 28 October 2017 02: 01 New
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            Ceiling 18 km, target detection range up to 100 km. What problems with Hawk will our air defense systems have?
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 October 2017 00: 26 New
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          The U.S. Air Force also has a steeper bomb, the AGM 154 JSOW-ER, with a range of 560 kilometers.
  10. Old26
    Old26 28 October 2017 00: 38 New
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    Quote: Genry
    Quote: Old26
    During this time, a tank traveling at a speed of 30 km / h will depart at 4,25 km.

    During this time, the tank is so far away and there is no need to go. Surely he will find either a shelter or a counteraction system.

    Tell me, is it easy for a tank to find shelter and a counteraction system in the same Syria? Especially if there is no hangar with concrete ceilings and a “Shell” for cover nearby?

    Quote: Genry
    Quote: askme
    New small-sized shells for the Shell (which are four each in a standard container of a regular shell Shell) - cheaper ....)

    No shell is needed for such a bomb. There are cheaper cannon systems with optical guidance stations (Pine-A).

    And she is in the army this very "Pine-A" ??

    Quote: Vlad.by
    Well, yes, but the air defense will sleep at that time in the pillow ... and at what distance will the target be captured by a millimeter-wide seeker?

    She may not sleep, but what kind of bomb, for example, would a missile of the S-125 complex or MANPADS targeting infrared radiation not present?
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 31 October 2017 19: 46 New
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      I do not know how MANPADS, although the same needle may well work for a contrasting target, but the S-125 will take such a blank in the air. The radar will not work - if the notch filters crush it as a low-speed target, the TV channel will work 100%
  11. gromoboj
    gromoboj 31 October 2017 03: 56 New
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    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    Including for attacks in Syria.


    Are you fighting IS?

    Judging by the events they are fighting with Syria.
    Well, how are they fighting, something like a jackal of tobaccos, they bite and sniff behind a striped sherkhan.
    1. ADT
      ADT 4 November 2017 08: 12 New
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      Judging by your komentom-insanity mows your ranks.
      How did it happen that you - strange individuals calling black and white and vice versa, got so many?
  12. gromoboj
    gromoboj 4 November 2017 20: 14 New
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    Quote: ADT
    Judging by your komentom-insanity mows your ranks.
    How did it happen that you - strange individuals calling black and white and vice versa, got so many?

    Missile strikes on the territory of a neighboring state is this white?