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Victor Bondarev: Military salaries and pensions need to be indexed

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October 27 2017 The State Duma will consider in its first reading the bill on the federal budget for 2018-2020 years introduced by the Government of the Russian Federation. Commenting on the country's main financial document, Chairman of the Council of the Federation Committee on Defense and Security, Viktor Bondarev, said that reducing spending on national defense next year will not slow down the pace of rearmament of the army, modernization of the defense industry and will not affect the defense capability of the Russian state.


Reducing the cost of national defense next year, envisaged by the bill, will not slow down the pace of rearmament of the army, modernization of the military-industrial complex and strengthening the country's defense capability.
- said Bondarev

At the same time, he noted that the decision to allocate budget allocations in the amount less than in previous years was comprehensively weighed, analyzed and incorporated even during the development of the federal budget for the 2017 year and the planned period of 2018-2019. It is associated with the completion of a number of activities in the framework of the execution of the "May" Presidential Decree No. 603, which required the allocation of additional funds. Future defense expenditures seem to be understated only in comparison with the budget of previous years.

Victor Bondarev: Military salaries and pensions need to be indexed


The Chairman of the Committee confirmed that the budgeted funds will allow to ensure the main strategic objectives of the Armed Forces of Russia and in this regard, the concept of the document submitted by the Ministry of Finance supports the Committee.

But commenting on the bill, V. Bondarev notes that certain provisions need to be adjusted. Such provisions include, for example, the monetary allowance of military personnel, which, according to the parliamentarian, should be indexed in accordance with the level of inflation, which is not included in the current draft “budget”. At the same time, Federal Law No. 306-ФЗ of 2012 has been used for indexation as the main mechanism for protecting the remuneration of military personnel from its depreciation. However, subsequent amendments to the legislation suspended this provision for the past five years, that is, since the adoption of federal law.

Considering this problem, V. Bondarev proposes to work out the issue of the resumption of indexation.

This is also important from the point of view of increasing the attractiveness of military service. It is clear that the armed forces are a special sphere into which people are going, not for utilitarian reasons, but at the behest of the heart. Most of the "army" are driven by a sense of duty and patriotism. But still, responsible people who want to ensure a decent standard of living for their families, do not overlook the financial issue when choosing a profession. In addition, the return of indexations is consistent with the requirements of the “May” Presidential Decree No. 604 on the conformity of the level of income of servicemen to average wages in leading sectors of the economy.
- Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security

It is noted that the indexation of wages to civilian personnel of military units and organizations is spelled out in the draft law. However, the planned percentage does not allow these categories to provide an acceptable standard of living. According to forecasts, their salaries will be less than the minimum wage. In the course of the adoption of the federal budget it is necessary to adjust this point.

In addition, a mechanism should be worked out to solve the problem of indexing military pensions (which was sharpened by the adoption on the eve of the first reading of the draft law on annual “freezing” of indexation) and incorporate it into the draft federal budget, which is also consistent with the requirements of the “May” decrees of the President of Russia. People who gave their active years of military service, have spent a lot of strength and health to protect the homeland, deserve it. This is my position not only as the chairman of the relevant Committee of the Council of the Federation, but also as a citizen of our country
- said V. Bondarev.

I want to pay attention to the next moment. On Wednesday, at the “government hour” of the meeting of the Federation Council, we discussed the state and prospects for the construction of Rosgvardi troops. A detailed analysis conducted by us in preparation for this event showed a shortage of funds for many of the needs of the new executive body that ensures national security. In this regard, 1 January 2018 should provide for the allocation of additional funds from the federal budget to increase to 65% of the monthly allowance for special conditions of service for employees serving in the National Guard under the St. Petersburg and Leningrad region. For Moscow and the Moscow region a similar rule is valid.
In general, I repeat, the amount of defense financing provided for in the 2018-2020 years can be called quite worthy in a difficult macroeconomic situation. The most important thing is to balance the interests of the state and society, to ensure the implementation of short-term, medium-term and long-term tasks. And the bill prepared by the Ministry of Finance allows it "
- quotes Bondarev his press service.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 27 October 2017 07: 32
    +9
    Yes, no one should be offended in this matter. Both military and civilian
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 27 October 2017 07: 36
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, no one should be offended in this matter. Both military and civilian

      As well as deputies and senators! Well, officials, as without them.
      1. dik-nsk
        dik-nsk 27 October 2017 07: 51
        +3
        armed forces - a special area in which people go by no means for utilitarian reasons, but at the behest of the heart
        I agree in principle, but teachers, doctors, too, should not be forgotten
        1. Logall
          Logall 27 October 2017 08: 04
          14
          And who can you forget? Hard workers? - Which countries contain, but their salaries are not indexed. But judging by the labor market, they are not remembered!
          1. astronom1973n
            astronom1973n 27 October 2017 08: 15
            +6
            Quote: Logall
            And who can you forget? Hard workers? - Which countries contain, but their salaries are not indexed. But judging by the labor market, they are not remembered!

            Enterprises are mostly non-state! The oligarchs must index! Why nobody asks questions to them! And then one dashing guy has already said that it’s necessary to work for 18 hours laughing I would have looked at him after 18 hours in a paint shop or in metalworking!
            1. Logall
              Logall 27 October 2017 08: 33
              14
              The state, as a guarantor, must protect the interests of workers! Determine not only the minimum wage, but also the percentage of profits going to the salaries of workers! Not management, but workers !!!
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 27 October 2017 08: 51
                +5
                There is such a wonderful organization working all over the world - Trade unions ------ a voluntary public association of people who are related by common interests by the nature of their activities in the workplace, in the service sector, culture, etc. Associations are created to represent and protect the rights of workers in labor relations, as well as the socio-economic interests of members of the organization, with the possibility of a wider representation of employees. !! Only in Western countries do these same trade unions defend the interests of their members. And we have the old fashioned way, we collected the contributions and Hurray !! You can not move.
                1. Logall
                  Logall 27 October 2017 09: 13
                  14
                  I do not care for the whole world! They legalized same-sex marriage there ...
                  I want my interests to be defended not by some unions, But by those who call themselves `` servants of the people ''!
                  Let them build trust ...
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 27 October 2017 11: 03
                    +6
                    The servant was canceled in 1917! And your -
                    my and other working people, the interests for your (money) contributions should be served by Trade Unions ------ voluntary public association of people who are related by common interests by the nature of their activities in the workplace, in the service sector, culture, etc. Associations are created in order to represent and protect the rights of workers in labor relations, as well as the socio-economic interests of members of the organization, with the possibility of a wider representation of employees.
                    1. Logall
                      Logall 27 October 2017 14: 52
                      +9
                      In other words, nobody?
                      Unions defend on the basis of current legislation! I'm talking about creating laws ...
                      And in 1917, the gentlemen were canceled! But not for long ... but not for long ...
                    2. Dedall
                      Dedall 27 October 2017 23: 13
                      +2
                      Dear, I once went to the website of the united trade unions and from there to the section of the medical workers' union. There are laid out the appeal of the Council is the union to GDP. It was last in May of this year. Everything seems to be correctly written: about the abolition of payments for seniority, and the abolition of surcharges for night shifts and special modes of operation. For example, detoxifiers are now canceled in Russia and all the trash that is strewn down the streets is taken to ordinary hospitals. And for this it was not in vain that 30% of the premium was earlier, because working with such a contingent is both disgusting and dangerous.
                      These same workers from the trade union, with whining voices, ask why they say they are going to note an additional 12-day vacation, which was put to doctors since 1977. But our President, so beloved by some, who is the Guarantor of freedoms and rights, didn’t even want to answer a bunch of all these appeals. Like, this is not royal affairs!
                      But first thing for another twenty years or so as the doctors were tightly banned from striking. So it turns out like in an old joke: "Do I have a right?" "There is!" “Can I? ...” “No, you can't!” So it turns out that the old cadres from budgetary institutions, which are still holding on to the availability of pensions, die, but new ones do not appear.
                      The same is true for military units, where the civilian salary is the same as in the civilian sphere. For example, only an extra charge for my military service holds me there. And the recent announcement of our trade union committee that they have sanatorium vouchers for the price of 2800 rubles per day made me particularly amused. So there is no need to talk about such a bureaucratic structure as a trade union.
                      1. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 28 October 2017 07: 16
                        0
                        So, I write that our trade unions only collect contributions. And with a pen to the boss under the visor - "Yes! Boo done !!! .." But in fact the trade unions
                        all over the world the most powerful lever of pressure on the employer-owner! Our hand, room, are afraid of everything ...
          2. dik-nsk
            dik-nsk 27 October 2017 08: 16
            +3
            And who can you forget? Hard workers? –What the country is supported, but their salaries are not indexed
            indexation is carried out by the employer, in the above professions - this is the state, it is not necessary to drag everything here
            1. Logall
              Logall 27 October 2017 08: 40
              10
              Who controls the enterprises? Or do they exist under other laws?
              1. dik-nsk
                dik-nsk 27 October 2017 11: 16
                +1
                What does control mean? the state determines the mole and indexes it, ask the rest from the employer, there is no union anymore, do not like s / n - look for another or raise qualifications, pros pay well in all sectors
              2. weksha50
                weksha50 27 October 2017 12: 34
                +2
                Quote: Logall
                Who controls the enterprises? Or do they exist under other laws?


                Lord ... Yes - no one ...
                Russian Post ... Federal Unitary Enterprise ... Postmen have official salaries from year to year below the minimum wage... The head of the Post has awesome salaries, bonuses, parachutes ... And so on ...
                The postmen tried to contact the prosecutor's office ... It would be better if they did not apply ...
                In general, no one is engaged in any effective, necessary for society, for the people, control ...
                Well, remember the case at the Vostochny spaceport, etc., etc. ... recourse angry
          3. lazy
            lazy 27 October 2017 08: 17
            +3
            hard workers usually now work for the private trader and should ask from the owner. and military teachers, doctors are people of the sovereign (well, if not in a private clinic or school) and here the state
            1. insular
              insular 27 October 2017 08: 57
              0
              Quote: lazy
              generally

              And those that are not "usually"? They do not need?
              An army without a rear is quickly rusting trash. Do not forget that "Victory was forged not only at the front, victory was forged in the rear."

              The same large companies, with state participation, they do not need? Or do you think the same hard worker of Gazprom (for example) does not need indexing? Can you say that Gazprom, making the lion's share of GDP, earns its billions in top managers' offices?
              They, these hard workers, deserve indexation no less than teachers and warriors.

              And in the case of private traders, labor law is in the hands of the state. Those same northern and vacation, private trader does not pay out of kindness.
    2. Berber
      Berber 27 October 2017 08: 48
      +4
      Military especially. This is the question: will you feed your army or someone else's.
    3. stolz
      stolz 27 October 2017 08: 59
      +6
      How old is this chatter about decent cash allowance for military personnel and pensions for military pensioners? But nothing really changes, and yet, once again, they crowed, and the sun may not rise.
  2. Finches
    Finches 27 October 2017 07: 32
    +4
    I absolutely agree with the title ... laughing
    1. The black
      The black 27 October 2017 07: 40
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      I absolutely agree with the title

      The main thing is that the GDP and the government would agree with him sad... and then someone will appear on the screens and say, as always: "there is no money" ... request
      1. Finches
        Finches 27 October 2017 08: 05
        +2
        Then we will continue to hold on ... soldier laughing
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 27 October 2017 08: 20
        +6
        Quote: Black

        The main thing is that the GDP and the government would agree with him sad... and then someone will appear on the screens and say, as always: "there is no money" ... request

        Or they may not agree! Defense spending cuts, where does the money come from? Moreover, they are not going to reduce the rate of rearmament. Now at the top, new favorites have appeared. A more reliable support for the authorities is Rosguard. Now they will have everything in chocolate, I have no doubt. A personal army was always better maintained than a regular army. In any country. Take Germany, for example. Wehrmacht and SS, the supply gap was decent.
      3. weksha50
        weksha50 27 October 2017 12: 36
        0
        Quote: Black
        ... and then someone will appear on the screens and say, as always: "there is no money" ...


        In an embrace with Kudrin and iPhone ... bully
  3. private person
    private person 27 October 2017 07: 34
    +2
    Yeah, they index the generals and close ones.
  4. GIN
    GIN 27 October 2017 07: 38
    0
    Apparently he doesn’t know how much they get for comparison. An American soldier serves for almost unemployment benefits. An officer receives insignificant money as a waiter at McDonald’s. General as a professor at the university. But as an entry-level manager, our soldier does not want to serve for the salary of a highly skilled working officer for the salary of a middle-level manager. it’s true with the generals, while everything is in order, it’s really difficult to hang out pears and cry how difficult it is to live served in the Special Forces Aviation Administration, where one officer for 2 soldiers is a mobile unit by the commander of the control department
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 27 October 2017 08: 03
      +4
      Quote: GIN
      Apparently doesn’t know how much they get for comparison an American soldier

      Go banking rates reviewed military salaries in the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps to see how their salaries fluctuate depending on rank and length of service.

      Annual salary of a hired military

      In the US Army, mercenaries are paid depending on their class and how long they have been in military service: 2, 4 of the year or 6 of years. E-1 ordinary - pay $ 19 198 annually, E-2 ordinary - pay $ 21 521 and E-3 ordinary first class - pay $ 25 510.

      In the U.S. Navy, E-1 makes $ 18 a year, E-803 makes $ 2, and E-21 makes between $ 078 and $ 3 a year, depending on length of service.

      The Marines recognize two classes of privates: E-1 and E-2. E-1s pay $ 19 a year, and E-200s pay $ 2. Junior Corporal (E-21) gets between $ 516 and $ 3, depending on length of service.

      In the US Air Force, an E-1 private soldier earns $ 18 a year, E-802 - a flight crew member - earns $ 2 and an E-21 - first-class pilot - earns between $ 078 and $ 3, depending from seniority.

      Annual salary of corporal and sergeant

      In the army, those with a rank just below the sergeant - E-4 (specialist or corporal) - are paid from $ 25 to $ 067 per year. In the E-30 Navy - the foremen of the third class - earn from $ 427 4 to $ 24 552 per year. In the Marine Corps, E-28 warrant officers earn between $ 584 and $ 4. People with E-25 rank in the Air Force are senior pilots. He or she earns between $ 068 and $ 30 per year.

      The army, marines and air forces have sergeant 5 levels (from E-5 to E-9). The navy has 5 foreman levels - equivalent to a sergeant.

      Army Navy Marine Corps Air Force
      E-5 $ 27,338- $ 34279 $ 26,777- $ 31370 $ 27,336- $ 38,79 $ 26,776- $ 37994
      E-6 $ 29,840- $ 37166 $ 29,844- $ 46224 $ 29,844- $ 46224 $ 29,228- $ 45270
      E-7 $ 34,500- $ 62016 $ 34,500- $ 62016 $ 34,500- $ 62016 $ 33,793- $ 60735
      E-8 $ 49,632- $ 70788 $ 49,632- $ 70788 $ 49,632- $ 70788 $ 48,610- $ 69332
      E-9 $ 60,636- $ 94140 $ 60,636- $ 94140 $ 60,636- $ 94140 $ 59,385- $ 92199
      Annual lieutenant salary

      There are 2 classes of lieutenant in the army: second lieutenant (O-1) and first lieutenant (O-2). For second lieutenants, salaries start at $ 36. After four years, they earn $ 418. First assistants with more than two years of experience pay $ 45. After 824 years, they get up to $ 41. And after 958 years, they earn $ 4 56.

      In the Navy, the O-1 — the ensign — gets between $ 35 669 and $ 44 881. O-2 - Junior Lieutenant - receives from $ 41 094 to $ 55 724.

      The second lieutenant in the Marine Corps receives from $ 36 420 to $ 45 828, while the first lieutenant from $ 41 964 to $ 58 068.

      Annual salary captain and major

      In the army, the captain’s salary (O-3) ranges from $ 48 560 to $ 67 885 per year. Major (O-4) earns from $ 55 231 to $ 73 109.

      The equivalent of a captain in the fleet is a lieutenant (O-3). The Navy lieutenant receives between $ 47 and $ 563. O-63, the lieutenant commander, receives between $ 446 and $ 4 a year. The wage range is divided into 54 tiers by years of service.

      In the Marine Corps, captains earn from $ 48 564 to $ 79 000.

      In the Air Force, captains receive between $ 47 and $ 563. O-77 - Major - earns between $ 378 and $ 4.

      Annual salary of colonel and lieutenant colonel

      In the army of O-5 - lieutenant colonels. They get paid from $ 64 008 to $ 108 756 per year. O-6 –the colonels earn $ 76 788 and $ 135 936.

      O-5 in the fleet - commanders. They earn from $ 62 694 to $ 76 435. O-6 –captain - earns from $ 75 204 to $ 88 045.

      In the Marine Corps, lieutenant colonels pay from $ 64 008 to $ 108 756, depending on their years of service. Colonels receive a salary from $ 76 788 to $ 135 936.

      Air Force pay lieutenant colonels from $ 62 to $ 694. Colonels earn between $ 106 and $ 516, depending on how long they served.

      General's annual salary

      The highest rank in the army is generals - they can easily receive a salary of more than $ 150 000. O-7 through the O-10 personnel in the army, the marines and the Air Force all call the commander (O-7), major general (O-8), lieutenant-general (O-9) and major (O-10). The Navy has its own classifications of these ranks: Rear Admiral (O-7), Full Rear Admiral (O-8), Vice-Admiral (O-9), and Admiral (O-10). Soldiers in these industries receive about the same salary:

      • O-7 receive from $ 101 256 to $ 151 284
      • O-8 receive from $ 121 860 to $ 175 680
      • O-9 receive from $ 172 224 to $ 186 996
      • O-10 receive a salary of $ 186
      This is not counting the Pentagon Social Package, which includes more than 140 benefits and payments.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 27 October 2017 08: 43
        +5
        Quote: WUA 518
        The highest rank in the army is generals - they can easily receive a salary of more than $ 150.

        It turns out that in the USA it is easier to earn a simple doctor than a military. An ordinary dentist is 100 thousand dollars / year, a surgeon - 300 thousand dollars / year. In Russia, the opposite picture is observed by doctors (and not only!) Simply begging in comparison with the military.
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 27 October 2017 12: 42
        +1
        Quote: WUA 518
        This is not counting the Pentagon Social Package, which includes more than 140 benefits and payments.


        Mdya ... Converted to rubles ... Cool ... in my opinion ...
    2. Dedall
      Dedall 27 October 2017 23: 21
      +2
      Sorry, but you wrote something wrong. A highly qualified driver in a civilian gets 80, or even 100 thousand, we have only 19 on a rocket carrier, a contractor, and a cleaner in our city office of United Russia - 35 thousand. That is, starlings in our part are equated to a cleaner from EP. But the most important thing is that if we transfer our prices to Western prices, there is no difference, and many products are even more expensive, but salaries are an order of magnitude lower.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 27 October 2017 23: 56
        +7
        Quote: Dedall
        Dedall

        And that, then lying is not good, your parents did not teach you, a campaign ... well, or you didn’t teach you.
        You yourself will not be from the Crimea? Not the daughter, an hour, an officer? And then it all hurts you are ambiguous ...
  5. Gardamir
    Gardamir 27 October 2017 07: 42
    +5
    Military salaries and pensions must be indexed
    Who argues. But why is it necessary before the election?
    1. Berber
      Berber 27 October 2017 08: 50
      +4
      The electorate is raked up.
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 27 October 2017 12: 44
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      Who argues. But why is it necessary before the election?



      And when else? laughing
      It’s time to get used to it ...
  6. kolkulon
    kolkulon 27 October 2017 07: 43
    0
    Doesn’t crack anything?
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 27 October 2017 07: 47
      0
      Tape up so that it does not crack! !! sad
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 27 October 2017 07: 46
    +4
    Yes, it would be nice for civilians to index salaries as well as pensions! hi
    1. kyznets
      kyznets 27 October 2017 08: 12
      +4
      The civilians sighed sadly and said nothing. Prosecutorial and investigative committees, civil servants work tirelessly, earn the welfare of the country. They are equated with the military. Why should civilians raise and index it? Nothing depends on them, they do nothing for the country. They have the opportunity to work until retirement, and pensions are set so that they better and faster fit into the "survival period". Well, regularly, someone from the government comes forward in the press with a proposal to increase the retirement age and cancel the already miserable indexation of pensions. This is to rejoice at what is and did not ask for more. Future civilian pensioners will sigh once more ... It is more necessary for prosecutors and investigators. We will tolerate that. When did a Russian person hope for the state and officials to improve his living conditions? Mom said that under Stalin, once a year, it seems, in April, they reduced the prices of many consumer goods. Well then it was easier to live, after the war it ...
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 27 October 2017 08: 52
        +6
        Quote: kyznets
        Why should civilians raise and index it? Nothing depends on them, they do nothing for the country.

        And where does the money come from, on the budget of these same military men? I think that the oligarchs earn us all! Hard workers are given salaries. To the budget - taxes. And they don’t forget themselves - they add billions to themselves even in a crisis, unlike other loafers! Our benefactors! Yes, where would we be without them darling ... Would be gone! Recently, Putin’s personal friend and oligarch (of course!) Arkady Rotenberg has especially distinguished himself. He has more than doubled his fortune - from $ 1 to $ 2,6 billion. And this is on government orders! And since he came under EU and US sanctions, the State Duma decided to exempt him, together with Timchenko and Kovalchuk, from paying taxes in Russia.
        I would have exempted the oligarchs from taxes altogether. They need more money! And let the rest of the parasites not envy! If anyone is missing - work better, and not wipe yourself on the forums!
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 27 October 2017 12: 49
          +3
          Quote: Stas157
          I would have exempted the oligarchs from taxes altogether.


          And from freedom !!! For life !!! And from movable and immovable property !!! laughing bully lol
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 27 October 2017 12: 46
        +4
        Quote: kyznets
        Prosecutorial and investigative committees, civil servants work tirelessly, earn the welfare of the country. They are equated with the military.


        They are far from being equated with the military ... And on this subject several times on the topic raised in ...
        They are equated with privileges and provision almost to celestials ... what
  8. XII Legion
    XII Legion 27 October 2017 07: 51
    16
    Military salaries and pensions must be indexed

    And not the military - all the more!
  9. Altona
    Altona 27 October 2017 07: 52
    +5
    In general, the Government led the country into a paradoxical situation, another 200 people crawled into billionaires over the past three years, all oligarchs increased their fortunes by at least 2 times, profits grew by at least 70%, and the rest of the people were offered to tighten their belts. They are voicing all kinds of economic nonsense as “deterring purchasing demand,” “investment without development and in exchange for welfare,” and other Kudrin nonsense that Putin listens with pleasure. That is, the Russian people are offered to stupidly die in return for some fantastic investments. And this despite the fact that the New Wehrmacht is being deployed along our borders and diplomats are being sent to us.
  10. groks
    groks 27 October 2017 08: 03
    +1
    Other occupations should also be attractive. Otherwise, there will be no where to get money for the army. Vicious circle ... . Well, doctors and teachers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYjtb-AHOzU
  11. Eurodav
    Eurodav 27 October 2017 08: 21
    +3
    As the people after the times of the Tagged and EBN have regained respect for Chlovek with the Gun, so the mouse fuss begins ... To know someone is across the throat !!!
  12. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 27 October 2017 08: 22
    +3
    Can our bureaucrats of fog mist with a "negative budget growth." Salaries below the minimum wage, on which it is impossible to live, cause excitement. 65% surcharge for special conditions of service in Moscow and St. Petersburg - just a song!
    "The amount of funding for the defense sector ... can be called quite decent." But you can’t name it as it deserves it?
  13. Sergey53
    Sergey53 27 October 2017 08: 56
    +5
    Previously, harsh conditions of service were where: cold, hot, deserted. Itself was in such places. And now in Moscow, St. Petersburg. You understand democracy.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 27 October 2017 09: 11
      +4
      Quote: Sergey53
      Previously, harsh conditions of service were where: cold, hot, deserted. Itself was in such places. And now in Moscow, St. Petersburg.

      Moreover, the more comfortable a person lives, the more he earns! Gos. officials from Gazprom or Rosneft arranged their lives like billionaires - business jets, luxury yachts ... Multimillion bonuses, in addition to the same multimillion dollar salary. Some governors, in general, managed to manage their area while living abroad, in Italy, at home on the estate. So it’s more comfortable. And if a person is well, then he brings more benefits! Well, really?
    2. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 27 October 2017 09: 28
      +3
      Quote: Sergey53
      Previously, harsh conditions of service were where: cold, hot, deserted. Itself was in such places. And now in Moscow, St. Petersburg. You understand democracy.

      It turns out that in Moscow and St. Petersburg there are more servicemen than in Transbaikalia and the Far East. These bureaucrats even saw prices in those areas ??? It’s cheaper to live in Moscow than in the regions.
      1. Sergey53
        Sergey53 27 October 2017 13: 15
        +2
        I like one Muscovite to her complaint that it became hard to live in Moscow, answered that if it’s hard then sell your apartment and go to the village. This money is enough for you and your children for life. She was silent at once. And then she added that we are all envious that they live like that. I answered her then why are you complaining?
  14. Gamer
    Gamer 27 October 2017 09: 33
    0
    but not bold it will be? do not create any additional product, parasites, and increase the salary
  15. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 27 October 2017 09: 51
    +3
    Involuntarily, you begin to think about the activities of the government in the field of military security of the country. It seems that the financial and economic block considers the deprivation of the indexation of pensions and military salaries to solve the financial and economic problems of the country! And this, in their opinion, can be solved at the expense of 2,9-3,0 million people? The theater of the absurd, but for an hour whether it’s fulfilling Washington’s order for the collapse of the Russian Army, undermining the attractiveness of military service or giving them the President’s instructions, or is the law not written to them at all! It’s time, it’s time to weed the “government bed” from the liberal weed!
    1. creak
      creak 27 October 2017 10: 19
      0
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      and if this is not an hour Washington's order for the collapse of the Russian Army undermining the attractiveness of military service or the instructions of the PRESIDENT

      And did the President also appoint the leaders of the financial and economic block by order of Washington? And the State Department does not allow changing them either ... am Perhaps that is why he was forced to say that he was satisfied with the work of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation ... A heartbreaking picture ... crying
  16. megadeth
    megadeth 27 October 2017 10: 07
    +1
    In 2018, pensions for military personnel will be accrued based on the amount of 72,23 percent of the monetary allowance - the same as in 2017. The corresponding bill was adopted by the State Duma in the first reading.
    In accordance with the law on pension provision for military personnel, the monetary allowance for calculating the military pension was 2012% in January 54 and then should increase by 2% annually until it reaches 100%. But the effect of this rule was suspended until January 1, 2018.
    The bill proposes to suspend this rule until January 1, 2019. The document concerns military personnel, citizens serving in the internal affairs bodies, the State Fire Service, drug control authorities, institutions and bodies of the penal system, the Russian Guard.
    The amount of cash allowance taken into account when calculating their pension for 2018 remains at the current level - 72,23%.
    According to Deputy Minister of Finance Yuri Zubarev, the bill will allow for a balanced federal budget in 2018-2020, taking into account incoming revenues and minimizing the budget deficit.

    Congratulations gentlemen !!!
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 27 October 2017 13: 19
      0
      If we calculate, then we think that we do not reach 40% of the salary.
  17. XXXIII
    XXXIII 27 October 2017 10: 17
    +2
    Victor Bondarev: Military salaries and pensions need to be indexed

    And the president’s personal request, don’t get out of this, comrades! Not the time for this, must understand! laughing
  18. weksha50
    weksha50 27 October 2017 12: 52
    +1
    Quote: Altona
    In general, the Government led the country into a paradoxical situation ... all the oligarchs increased their fortunes by at least 2 times, profits grew by at least 70%, and the rest of the people were offered to tighten their belts


    Instead of introducing a progressive tax ... Both the Duma and the government sabotage this decision from year to year ... angry Wait ... negative
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 27 October 2017 13: 22
      +2
      More deputies raised themselves. They have just about 100000 thousand.
    2. Dedall
      Dedall 27 October 2017 23: 40
      +2
      And I would say that the tax should be charged on a completely different shift. That is, he must take on the acquired property and consumed services. This is to say that in the declaration, the rector of our university writes that he has a salary of 400 thousand, and then also receives an additional payment every month for special working conditions in the amount of two salaries. In total, only 1,2 million rubles are received from the budget (without bribes and other things). But he pays the tax precisely from the salary, like thousands of officials like him! And now it turns out that he buys from an apartment in Moscow, and writes down on his mother-in-law (nephew, son - to emphasize what is needed) and pays only VAT for this.
  19. Overlock
    Overlock 27 October 2017 19: 17
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    Quote: Crowe
    As well as deputies and senators! Well, officials, as without them.

    these have never offended themselves, mouth and ass .....
  20. Overlock
    Overlock 27 October 2017 19: 28
    0
    I read the comments, it was nice that we do not forget about civilians. The only trouble is that we expect miserable handouts of a thief as manna from heaven. After all, the problem is systemic and its name is EP and GDP. They cannot exactly not, they do not want to think about ordinary people, working and not working, students and pensioners. They don't give a damn about them. There is no one to choose from, everywhere the same is the same. Pity the children, what awaits them? Our king sat up, covered with shells behind, he mute to the aspirations of the people, oligarchs and thieves dear to him.
    1. lazy
      lazy 28 October 2017 14: 14
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      and who are you offering? anal?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 28 October 2017 15: 11
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        any more names you will not name? Are you fixated on it? Or maybe in love secretly?
  21. Romanenko
    Romanenko 27 October 2017 21: 57
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    A good initiative, by the way, and not for the military, would also be nice to add.
    If there is no money, I will tell you where to get it.
    Pare a little at the salary of the Deloputian corps, their parachute box is off with gold and silver, and then a little retirement will be pushed out - one good will come of it.
    May begin to bring real benefits.
    And then, it seems, they think there that they are paid so much because they are so necessary, but in fact they are simply thieves.
    In general, all these servants are folk, for a correct understanding of the current moment, they must live on the average salary in the region, receive a standard pension, stand in the same lines for benefits and housing as the population, and generally live according to the laws of the country, and not according to their own concepts .
    Then maybe some sense from those who will remain at this work will be.
    And there will be little, but then those who really want good for this country, and not just fill their guts with a lot and free then.
    1. Dedall
      Dedall 27 October 2017 23: 54
      +2
      Once upon a time in happy times I provided the sessions of the Supreme Council. it was in Uzbekistan and then sessions were held 2 times a year, but these were really people's deputies - almost all from production collective farms or other medical teachers. And while sitting in a hotel, they discussed the draft laws proposed for consideration, and until hoarseness, almost to fights, they argued, introducing changes. They spoke outlining specific facts. And this is despite the fact that the ruling elite tried to sing and feed them with all their might. The national cadres, of course, were largely tied to tribal relations, but they also did something.
      So the deputies of those times did something at home and in the field, and everyone knew who to turn to if problems appeared. And now, I tried to find a way to appeal to the “tutuped” from our polling station and could not. In my opinion, finding his phone number or email address will now be more difficult than defining the code for a "nuclear briefcase."
      1. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n 28 October 2017 07: 16
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        Quote: Dedall
        And now I tried to find a way to appeal to the “tutuped” from our polling station and could not.

        good