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Liberalism as a refuge of the present intellectual

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Crimean director Sentsov was convicted of terrorism. Fair or unfair, I do not know. But surprised by the reaction of his fellows. At the meeting with Putin, director Sokurov asked to pardon Sentsov. Putin explains to him that Sentsov is a criminal. But Sokurov throws ace-trump on the table, a killer argument: but Sentsov is a director, and even talent!


A similar example with the Moscow director Kirill Serebrennikov. For embezzlement on him a criminal case. Again I don’t touch on how fair. But the reaction of friends in the intellectuals shop is similar to the above: immediately many signatories about the pursuit of genius. The opinion of a certain Ivan Vyrypayev is especially symptomatic. This intellectual kills with his logic. He believes that Serebrennikov’s innocence (!) Flows logically out of rejection (!) By him, Vyrypayev, of the Russian authorities.

You know, this is a common sign of a liberal, as well as paranoid. The man believes that he is the navel of the earth, that his liberalism is from God. Truly a direct descendant of Vasisualiy Lokhankin from the Golden Calf. Fortunately, not all artists are infected with this. For example, director A. Konchalovsky says about Serebrennikov: “Now if this is a talented person, it means that he can make any mistakes, and if a person is unknown to anyone, then God bless him? .. But ... when the question is about accusation, moreover, to lower your eyes and think: “Eh, brother, how did you manage to,” that's all I can say. Only for this, I do not rank Konchalovsky among intellectuals, as well as the historian Gumilev with his classic: “Well, what an intellectual I am, I have a profession and I love my Motherland. The current intelligentsia is such a spiritual sect. They know nothing, they do not know how, but they judge everything and do not accept dissent at all ”, Pushkin with him:“ You enlightened your mind, / You saw the truth, / And gently alien peoples loved, / And he wisely hated ”.

No wonder there was a joke. A tired peasant (mechanic, foreman, guard, proofreader, shift supervisor, tractor driver, etc., etc.) comes from work, and his wife says: “Vasya, sit down and get ready. A terrible thing happened. Serebrennikov arrested. - “What are you, dear! It can not be that! But how are we without him! ”

Where did this exaltation and self-exaltation of creative people in Russia, and indeed the humanities? And why do we, ordinary people, indulge in this? Perhaps from the peculiarities of Russia, when in the 19 century and at the beginning of 20 it was the educated people who dragged the illiterate country out of the dark? Then these ascetics were pushed aside by all kinds of Milyukovs, and then the Ahejakovs with Makarevich pulled themselves up, and the people believe that they are still the same salt of the earth, which pulls them towards a bright future? Or maybe because it is necessary for someone, and the mainstream media discuss these stars and stars with rare unanimity, as if there are no other problems and people in the country, or these others no one can call them? And this "salt" climbed and climbs into things that it does not understand. As an example, the active participation of the intelligentsia in Gorbachev's restructuring, in calls for the shooting of the Supreme Council in 1993, and in 1996 in jumping to the public in the Yeltsin election campaign under the slogan: “Vote, and then you will lose!”

The liberal intelligentsia shattered the country at the beginning of the last century as well. First, in the collapse of the country in the February Revolution, and then in the contemptuous "fe!" In response to the proposal of the Bolsheviks to participate in governing the country, but on second roles. History CPSU in 60-ies in the Ural Polytechnic Institute. SM Kirov was taught by a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, order bearer Martynenko. Relying on facts, contrary to the official point of view, he said that the intelligentsia is very (!) Largely guilty of the Civil War and the excesses of the thirties. The bulk of not only higher, but also middle and lower bureaucracy, i.e. the intelligentsia, after the October Revolution turned away from the Bolsheviks, the intelligentsia needed only commanding heights, as if they had missed a little from February to October. And the Bolsheviks, as decent, persuaded these. Censure saboteurs, counter-revolutionaries. By the way, about sabotage: it was not only class, but also purely vengeful and intelligent: “So everything was bad for us? And we will make it even worse for you! ”Martynenko read out such documents. The slogan of the first speeches of the white movement at the beginning of 1918 of the year against the Soviet government was to prevent the further collapse of the country, and most intellectuals engaged in the collapse with gusto. And the red terror was a late reaction to the white terror, which was also initially initiated by the Mensheviks and Socialist Revolutionaries, i.e. intellectuals. The Bolsheviks had to create their own state apparatus from what was, and there was nothing and a little less. Well, in the meantime, brought up their specialists, so much firewood broke! Interestingly, the lectures of Martynenko, held in large classrooms for three or four groups at the same time, were also attended by teachers from different departments. And the words “Yes, there was a cult, but there was a personality” he was not afraid to pronounce 1964 before the removal of Khrushchev in October.

I am not at all against the creative professions, but it is impossible to bring the situation to idiocy, when the opinion of a beautiful singer of the president’s choice is replicated everywhere as God's revelation. Well, she does not understand management even by her own micro-collective. Her orchestra with dancers and other props was managed by an art director (or as it is called). Purely creative people are dangerous opportunity to fall into mysticism, suggestibility, non-self-criticism. Some of those who read this note, like real intellectuals (there are, there are those in HE), have already decided to poke the author: “What are you talking about! Offer or be silent, a sofa strategist! ”To begin with, I’ll inform you that the rubric is called“ Opinion ”and not“ Opinion with Proposal ”. But I can also give a suggestion: to act, as Mayakovsky used to say: “You will plow the arable land, write poems,” simply speaking, do not break away from the material world. It is being that determines consciousness. And it is not bad for normal people to speak loudly, and to remind all authorities that a shoemaker, trained and released from apprentices, should be wearing boots, etc. I do not hesitate.

In the meantime, sad with us. Many of the creative people leaned through intelligence into “liberasty” instead of taking up the direct responsibilities of the creative person: a social idea; crops reasonable, good, eternal. No society will develop successfully without creative individuals. But modern intellectuals / liberals / lawyers / economists deserve another note and a more sophisticated author. They are hardly mistaken.

Well, the final joke: “Vitek, stop calling him a stubborn idiot, even though this is a fact. It is not good in society. Call an intellectual. "
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 28 October 2017 06: 16
    +18
    Yes, we got those .. who consider themselves to be "infallible truths in the last resort" "Friendship 2" in the hands and allotment! There this rubbish will quickly disappear.
    1. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 28 October 2017 08: 47
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, we got those .. who consider themselves to be "infallible truths in the last resort" "Friendship 2" in the hands and allotment! There this rubbish will quickly disappear.


      The thought is very good, but I suggest replacing friendship with a jigsaw laughing
    2. free
      free 28 October 2017 09: 23
      +10
      Quote: 210ox
      director Sokurov

      to the wall and only to the wall with the phrase "enemy of the people."
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 28 October 2017 10: 50
        +11
        They only unite and insist: "Ah, he could not steal!" And they ask the president, somehow suspiciously!
        Well, the continuation that united against the director of the SLEEPERS. A new series about the threat of the Orange Revolution and the fight against it.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 28 October 2017 13: 54
          +7
          free
          to the wall and only to the wall with the phrase "enemy of the people."

          The time will come - and they will all be remembered and executed by all as “enemies of the people”, because they are “enemies of the people”!
          That Sobchak, that Makarevich, that ... - they do not know how to do anything more than liberal-consumer picturesque decomposition of their kind from their media clan and boast of their expansion before the working masses!
          In the West, nobody needs them either. There they have enough of their privileged show-off “half-wits” that even they cannot completely push each other on the way to the feeding trough with their elbows!
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 28 October 2017 12: 15
      +4
      It’s somehow not intelligently of all intellectuals under one comb. So lawyers with economists have already turned out to be creative people. And then to whom should our army officers be attributed, having the honor? Can’t they also be called intellectuals? And to whom do we attribute teachers, doctors, scientists, engineers, etc., of our citizens to completely creative professions? Clamshells come out. hi
      1. asiat_61
        asiat_61 28 October 2017 22: 26
        +2
        Creative economist? Thief or what?
      2. SMP
        SMP 29 October 2017 19: 09
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        sibiralt Yesterday, 12:15 ↑
        It’s somehow not intelligently of all intellectuals under one comb.


        And why not?

        And then to whom should our army officers be attributed, having the honor? Can’t they also be called intellectuals?


        Yes you what !! belay so swear, for this and can be given in Mardas.

        Intelligentsia (from Latin. Intelligens - understanding.)
        In Ukrainian, Svidomo translates as conscious or understanding.



        And to whom do we include teachers, doctors, scientists, engineers, etc. of our citizens as completely creative professions?


        This is our elite, teachers, doctors, scientists, engineers,
        they can only be attributed to the elite.


        And hucksters and speculators, although with a million with at least 10 lard, hucksters will remain, well, what’s their elite?
    4. Pravodel
      Pravodel 28 October 2017 16: 26
      +8
      Most notably, the concept of "intellectual" is absent in the Western language system. The intellectual is written there - Russian. Although the west is also full of intellectuals. It is noteworthy that intellectuals in the West do not teach and do not try to teach people how to live. They simply live, exist, create in the people themselves, in its midst. With us, if you are an intellectual, then you can teach, you can read notations, you can cut the truth-womb across and contrary to everything obvious. Question: why is this the case with our intelligentsia?
      The answer is simple: for some reason, our intelligentsia imagines itself to be a God's chosen part of the people, called upon to teach and shepherd the people themselves. As a result, we have what we have: dirty trick and abomination that obscures all that is bright that the intelligentsia can bring to the people. How to deal with this? More often to release such seers to the public with their predictions and analysis "so that everyone’s stupidity is visible," as Tsar Peter once said. The laughter of a people looking at the buffoonery and misery of a raging intellectual is the best weapon against such false prophets and diviners.

      [/ Quote]People-State-Fatherland[Quote]
      - this is the slogan of every Russian patriot. A cohesive people, a strong state that has flourished for centuries, the Fatherland, which is not able to defeat either the internal or external enemy.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 28 October 2017 18: 58
        +1
        Here’s a video for you (it’s nowhere else on YouTube, I’ve got it myself), compromising evidence on colleagues from the HSE (+18):
        1. kot28.ru
          kot28.ru 29 October 2017 02: 13
          +3
          sodomites am
          and it comes up with how we live am
  2. Putinets
    Putinets 28 October 2017 06: 46
    +17
    I absolutely support. By intellect, many "mouth singers" and backward dancers at the stool level. But they love to broadcast. As an example, Dontsova's toilet novels
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 28 October 2017 06: 59
      +6
      Yes as zhezh so. To Dontsova herself ... Yes, why should I sit and think, give birth to my own greatness.
      1. Vasily Krylov
        Vasily Krylov 28 October 2017 13: 38
        +3
        As in that joke, "... It is necessary to warn." He shouted for about five minutes, almost fell off a chair.
    2. Evdokim
      Evdokim 28 October 2017 07: 06
      +4
      Quote: Putin
      By intellect, many "mouth singers" and backward dancers at the stool level.

      Why do they even have to think, they want to yawn and shake their backs under the plywood. And everything else is shocking people for advertising and fees from performances, concerts. hi
    3. Sergey-svs
      Sergey-svs 28 October 2017 07: 32
      +12
      Quote: Putin
      ... By intellect, many "mouth singers" and backward dancers at the stool level. But they love to broadcast ...

      Well said. good Such is our creatively liberal "elite", all as one great mouth-piece singers and shit artists! negative
      1. Krasnyiy komissar
        Krasnyiy komissar 28 October 2017 09: 24
        +3
        Chimney sweeps both!
      2. ex warrant
        ex warrant 28 October 2017 16: 53
        +5
        Well, it’s necessary to warn before this is laid out! belay The first instinctive impulse was: to puke. Barely restrained ...
    4. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 28 October 2017 09: 17
      +1
      Quote: Putin
      As an example, Dontsova's toilet novels

      Ah well done! A great intelligent trick is to throw a specific name into the fan, switching the discussion to nonsense. It is not for nothing that people first of all note in intellectuals an inescapable meanness ...
    5. Alikos
      Alikos 28 October 2017 18: 12
      +3
      Quote: Putin
      I absolutely support. By intellect, many "mouth singers" and backward dancers at the stool level. But they love to broadcast. As an example, Dontsova's toilet novels

      Yeah...
      Whatever the director is “talent”, and whatever talent is, it is necessarily an intellectual ...
      I forgot, back in that century, someone said: "The intelligentsia is a shame on the nation ..."
      How many many intellectuals appeared in Russia with the advent of Gorbachev ...
      And after 1991, around Yeltsman, only 95% were intellectuals, talents and geniuses. Sabchaks, gaydars, gavrilpopovs, trumps, Kirienko, Shokheny, Avins, Nichaevs, Nemtsevs and other sh..l, and also
      cultural workers-jesters and buffoons Vasilashvili, Akhrendzhakov, Novotovskie
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 28 October 2017 06: 52
    +12
    "Yu.Lyubimov, M.A. Zakharov, O.N. Tabakov, A.P. Zvyagintsev, P.S. Lungin, N.S. Mikhalkov, A.N. Sokurov, A.V. Rogozhkin, O.E Menshikov, V. A. Gergiev, V. T. Spivakov, Yu.A. Bashmet, A. Netrebko, Z.K. Tsereteli, I. S. Glazunov, AM Shilov, M. Gelman, A. I. Solzhenitsyn, "V. Pelevin, Yu. Shevchuk, B. Akunin, L. Ulitskaya, D. L. Bykov, V. L. Ginzburg, Yu. Osipov."
    I cited, without exception, approved by the state, a list of great cultural figures of the Russian Federation for study in educational institutions. .... Most of these people are known not for their "accomplishments", but for participating in scandals, political actions, posing for "shows", anti-Russian statements .... These are our "cream of the intelligentsia."
    1. 210ox
      210ox 28 October 2017 06: 56
      +8
      Well, I would not rank the conductor and leader Gergiev as one of this "cohort"
      Quote: samarin1969
      "Yu.Lyubimov, M.A. Zakharov, O.N. Tabakov, A.P. Zvyagintsev, P.S. Lungin, N.S. Mikhalkov, A.N. Sokurov, A.V. Rogozhkin, O.E Menshikov, V. A. Gergiev, V. T. Spivakov, Yu.A. Bashmet, A. Netrebko, Z.K. Tsereteli, I. S. Glazunov, AM Shilov, M. Gelman, A. I. Solzhenitsyn, "V. Pelevin, Yu. Shevchuk, B. Akunin, L. Ulitskaya, D. L. Bykov, V. L. Ginzburg, Yu. Osipov."
      I cited, without exception, approved by the state, a list of great cultural figures of the Russian Federation for study in educational institutions. .... Most of these people are known not for their "accomplishments", but for participating in scandals, political actions, posing for "shows", anti-Russian statements .... These are our "cream of the intelligentsia."
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 28 October 2017 06: 59
        +6
        There is no "division into good and bad, just a general list (from the" Historical and Cultural Standard "). Among course you can find masters of their craft.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 28 October 2017 07: 03
          +4
          I agree with you ... But what’s Yura Shevchuk doing? Is it also a “standard”? And Solzhenitsyn? Of course, it’s clear who wrote this “standard” ..
          Quote: samarin1969
          There is no "division into good and bad, just a general list (from the" Historical and Cultural Standard "). Among course you can find masters of their craft.
    2. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 28 October 2017 08: 33
      +12
      Quote: samarin1969
      "Yu.Lyubimov, M.A. Zakharov, O.N. Tabakov, A.P. Zvyagintsev, P.S. Lungin, N.S. Mikhalkov, A.N. Sokurov, A.V. Rogozhkin, O.E Menshikov, V. A. Gergiev, V. T. Spivakov, Yu.A. Bashmet, A. Netrebko, Z.K. Tsereteli, I. S. Glazunov, AM Shilov, M. Gelman, A. I. Solzhenitsyn, "V. Pelevin, Yu. Shevchuk, B. Akunin, L. Ulitskaya, D. L. Bykov, V. L. Ginzburg, Yu. Osipov."
      I cited, without exception, approved by the state, a list of great cultural figures of the Russian Federation for study in educational institutions. .... Most of these people are known not for their "accomplishments", but for participating in scandals, political actions, posing for "shows", anti-Russian statements .... These are our "cream of the intelligentsia."

      More than half of them are Walruses, and only about musicians I don’t have much to say, the rest are empty opportunists, slime dishes, bedding or "poor fighters against the regime." Biomass in a word. The people of many do not really know. It feels like a team came to us from Israel for cultural exchange!
    3. Krasnyiy komissar
      Krasnyiy komissar 28 October 2017 09: 26
      +5
      Such "creams" should be flushed into the toilet.
      1. bk316
        bk316 31 October 2017 20: 14
        +2
        Such "creams" should be flushed into the toilet.

        Will you burn books in the squares?
    4. Overlock
      Overlock 28 October 2017 15: 19
      +7
      It turns out Tabakov, Menshikov, Glazunov, Bashmet, Zakharov did nothing for the country and their merits are inflated? Under one comb all fit. How do you like it then: "The more stupid in the army. The stronger our defense." Do not be offended? But these are alaverds to your opus. Everywhere there are worthy people among intellectuals and among the military.
  4. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 28 October 2017 07: 01
    +3
    And as soon as an individual declares himself (himself!) An intellectual (not being one), he is immediately tempted to fall into liberalism (one must stand out with something - there is no talent! laughing ), and then, very often, into sodomy. am
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 28 October 2017 09: 30
      +9
      You see ... the intellectual himself may not declare himself as such. This is just a person who can do nothing but chatter. Well-set, thanks to education, chatter. Here is the same Serebrennikov not an intellectual even once. He is a thief, but a director. But an intellectual cannot “fall into liberalism”, just as a fish cannot fall into water; without water, it instantly dies. They simply skillfully disguised themselves as "people of creative professions." They have no professions ...
      But those same creative people ... Yes, they usually have a little mind. Well, so accepted. This Soviet actor could laughingly tell how fellow practitioners told him that he had a defect, because of which he would not be great. They say you are talented, but damned, you will not go to the first. SMART you, and this is a verdict! And the current ones live like that, and most importantly - so selected. Smart artists will not quietly uncle aunts humblely earn money. Listening to their speech means being on the same level of the mind with them. There. Near the baseboard.
      I read the first comments on this situation, the most immediate, and gaggled. You can’t call it otherwise - it neighing unintelligently and even grunting in my opinion. There they innocently explained that Serebrennikov and Co. were not to blame. It’s just that they pay the performers for work in cash, without bothering themselves with all sorts of stupid things like bookkeeping, estimates, taxes, accounting and other boredom. People who have poked us with their noses for decades that the Russian people are bad-bad-bad because they don’t like to pay the same taxes. And in general a terribly illegitimate, therefore hated mess around!
      Do you know why street musicians "should not pay any taxes"? Because when a person throws money to such a musician, then this is an “act of giving”! That is, taxes are what pathetic, non-creative WE must pay. Creative, talented, intelligent IM. And not vice versa, what are you! Oh ...
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 28 October 2017 15: 39
      +4
      The birth of the intelligentsia (C. Marx, 1848).





      "The bourgeoisie deprived the sacred halo of all kinds of activities that were still considered honorable and looked upon with awe. They turned a doctor, a lawyer, a priest, a poet, a man of science into their paid employees."

      C. Marx and F. Engels. The manifesto of the communist party. C. Marx and F. Engels. Works, II edition, t. 4, p. 427.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 October 2017 07: 15
    +4
    The opinion of a certain Ivan Vyrypaev is especially symptomatic.

    ... these are the vyrypaevs, in the time of trial, they become traitors and Judas ... angry
  6. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 28 October 2017 07: 38
    +2
    In the days of distress, the mentors-healers-troubadours there would have told the prince that he was wrong .... lol feel
    And then climbed out with their opinions, panimash, antellegents and climb into the administration of the state, show the rulers their "fi" .... bully Bloomed, panimash .... feel
  7. Gardamir
    Gardamir 28 October 2017 08: 16
    0
    Firstly. It was in the late 60s. Khrushchev was gone and the new government decided to rehabilitate Stalin. Yes Yes! The creative intelligentsia sniffed out and as usual they wrote a collective letter. All of these Stalinist prize winners strongly opposed rehabilitation.
    But secondly. The object for bullying is indicated. And they all fell off the chain, watering heavily, not only with dirt, everything around.
    A little more, and start banging on each other.
    1. My address
      28 October 2017 09: 08
      +5
      Leonid!
      Of course it is good that you read the note to the end, incl. about 60-e years. But I did not understand your comment. I clearly wrote BEFORE OCTOBER 1964 OF THE YEAR. And what makes you think that I pointed out an object to harass? Read my notes, comments. Well, why? I think that you are an intellectual, i.e. himself invented himself blamed for invented. But I do not consider myself an intellectual. A long time ago, on a holiday, I gave a hint that an intellectual, so to me there is a wonderful brigadier after awarding the Order of the October Revolution, he said: "Ivanovich, what intellectual are you! I ran to the workshop, you don’t expect even a car on duty, it will suddenly get stuck on the crossings! " After that, thinking, he stopped considering himself an intellectual.
      And here are the words of Lenin:
      "... intellectuals, lackeys of capital, imagining themselves as the brains of a nation. In fact, this is not the brain, but r ... oh.
      “Intellectual powers” ​​who want to bring science to the people (and not to serve the capital), we pay a salary above average. It is a fact. We cherish them. "
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 28 October 2017 15: 08
        +1
        he himself came up with and he himself blamed for the thought.
        Even if so. You talked about the intellectuals about your version. Which also looks like he came up with it. But God be with him.
        When writing, remember, "how our word will respond." You expressed your opinion. But those who commented on you went, some to the forest, some for firewood.
        I myself, especially after the Serebrennikov case, are very critical of the creative intelligentsia.
        And we all confuse different things. You can be a great artist (writer, artist), but as a person, what did Lenin say there?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 28 October 2017 15: 52
          +9
          Quote: Gardamir
          You can be a great artist (writer, artist), but as a person, what did Lenin say there?

          Damn, Lenin did not say what they write about him on the Internet !!
          And he did say this:
          Quote: A.M. GORKOM15 IX. MSS Volume 51 (Letters. July 1919 - November 1920)
          ... The intellectual forces of workers and peasants are growing and gaining strength in the struggle for the overthrow the bourgeoisie and its accomplices, intellectuals, lackeys of capital, imagining themselves to be the brains of the nation. In fact, this is not the brain, but r ...
          To “intellectual forces” who want to carry science to the people (rather than serve the capital), we pay an average salary. It is a fact. We protect them...

          That is, Lenin (being an intelligent person, unlike ... quoting, we will not point a finger) understood that "in the family for no hoax", and it was these hoaxes that he branded. But not at all the intelligentsia, like the class.
  8. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 28 October 2017 08: 24
    +6
    A liberal and a patriot, concepts not compatible, in our Russian reality.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 28 October 2017 15: 11
      +2
      However! And so?



      or here

      1. Overlock
        Overlock 28 October 2017 15: 26
        0
        there is no answer from haters of the intelligentsia .....
        1. vladimirvn
          vladimirvn 28 October 2017 18: 50
          0
          This is just an exception to the rule, confirming that same rule.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 31 October 2017 22: 29
        +2
        Quote: Gardamir
        However! And so?

        It all depends on who understands the concept and how. liberalism and the word derived from it "liberal". Judging by how often you post these videos about the liberal of GDP, then you yourself are not particularly clear about what the point is. With a liberal GDP, you can openly criticize it and be sure that a funnel will not come for you at night, but God forbid, for example, the “liberal” Gozman or the “liberal” Sytin will ascend the throne. The Stalinist repressions then seem like childish babble. A liberal GDP does not give up Russia's interests, and these liberals work in the name of destroying it. By the way, are you not from their cage? M. Zadornov has roughly outlined the essence of our liberals (which, in your understanding) are krato - they’ll trash for money.
  9. Boris55
    Boris55 28 October 2017 08: 52
    +7
    Quote: Alexander (My address)
    it is impossible to bring the situation to idiocy when the opinion of a beautiful singer by the president’s choice is replicated everywhere as God's revelation.

    In ancient times, jesters were the lowest caste, entertaining the crowd at fairs, and in the end they tell us how to live, when they themselves haven’t hammered a nail into the wall in their entire lives.
  10. Lganhi
    Lganhi 28 October 2017 09: 57
    +5
    Absolutely right. I don’t understand why we should take into account the opinion of musician Makarevich or actor Serebryakov? Let Makarevich deal with his music, and Serebryakov with his antics in front of the camera.
  11. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 28 October 2017 10: 09
    +4
    Intelligence is also different. Someone is really worried about the fate of Russia. I think it is a certain section of the whole nation in a country where there are good and unfortunately bad ones. It’s not worth it to chop it off your shoulder.
  12. Moore
    Moore 28 October 2017 10: 35
    +2
    The liberal intelligentsia shattered the country at the beginning of the last century as well. First, in the collapse of the country in the February Revolution, and then in the contemptuous "fe!" In response to the proposal of the Bolsheviks to participate in governing the country, but on second roles.

    And not only at the beginning of the last century.
    I’m reading the “Demons” by F. M. Dostoevsky now - the same antics in the middle of the nineteenth century: the deepest contempt for one’s country, to share the Republic of Ingushetia, disperse the army and navy, claims to the ultimate truth and the fierce persecution of those who disagree.
    A special form of liberalism is Russian, destructive. She cannot create anything worthwhile due to congenital curvature.
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 28 October 2017 22: 49
      +1
      , divide the Republic of Ingushetia, disperse the army and navy, claims to the ultimate truth and the fierce persecution of those who disagree .....
      1. Moore
        Moore 29 October 2017 06: 46
        +1
        Quote: asiat_61
        Decembrists proclaimed the same values.

        To make sure that this is not true, just follow the link:
        http://www.zavtrasessiya.com/index.pl?act=PRODUCT
        & id = 1674
        It was only about giving Poland autonomy - nobody was going to touch the unitarity of the state, not to mention the army and navy. Yeah, bees versus honey ...
  13. tank64rus
    tank64rus 28 October 2017 11: 05
    +3
    "And these people think that they are the conscience of the nation, and they are just r ... about the nation" is Lenin about that intelligentsia. These are those who sent and signed a congratulatory letter to the Japanese emperor in connection with the death of the Russian squadron in Tsushima, representatives of that “creative intelligentsia”. Everything remained despite the fact that more than a hundred years have passed. It’s in their blood that they hate Russia and despise the people.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 28 October 2017 11: 27
      +11
      Quote: tank64rus
      "And these people imagine themselves to be the conscience of the nation, but they are just r ... about the nation" is Lenin about that intelligentsia

      Lenin doesn’t have such a phrase, don’t drink from the Internet, you’ll become (with) a Russian folk tale.
      Quote: tank64rus
      These are those who sent and signed a congratulatory letter to the Japanese emperor in connection with the death of the Russian squadron in Tsushima, representatives of that "creative intelligentsia"

      "The family is not without ... hoopoe" (c) Russian folk ... saying.
      Intelligentsia is different, so you know. Here and now for some reason they recall precisely those hoopoes. This is ... not kosher laughing
  14. Wolka
    Wolka 28 October 2017 11: 08
    +2
    modern liberalism of the domestic intelligentsia reminds me of an ostrich, screaming, and a little like a head in the sand, while the ability to objective analysis clearly does not reveal that this is conscious political nigelism or political dementia complicated by retrograde amnesia ...
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 28 October 2017 15: 45
      0
      dementia cannot be complicated by retrograde amnesia.
      If you really want to show off your knowledge, study.
      Dementia is a severe personality disorder, which can lead to the fact that a person completely loses the ability to think.
      Debility is the first, mild form of dementia. Descriptive thinking prevails in patients with debility, but they cannot generalize facts and abstract. Mental development in this case is delayed, in patients the productivity of thinking remains low.
      Imbecility is the moderate severity of dementia, in which mental and mental activities remain at a primitive level.
      Imbeciles recognize people's speech, they can even pronounce separate words or phrases themselves.
      Idiocy is the most severe degree of dementia, which is characterized by a complete lack of thinking and speech skills.
      Memory is a manifestation of the higher nervous activity of a person. With dementia, there is practically no GNI,
  15. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 28 October 2017 11: 13
    0
    No no no.
    Liberalism as a refuge of the present intellectual
    Boring is better Liberalism as a refuge for a true intellectual - Carrots are thicker and sweeter.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 28 October 2017 12: 59
      +1
      Do you think these concepts are identical? How interesting. Why do you think there are two separate words - the intellectual and the intellectual?
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 28 October 2017 15: 45
        +1
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Why do you think there are two separate words - the intellectual and the intellectual?

        Complex issue. Here go go figure it out if an intellectual pretends that he is an intellectual, and an intellectual - that he is an intellectual. laughing
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 28 October 2017 17: 30
          +3
          If an intellectual suffers a similar jump, you need to take a closer look - is this character simulating intelligence? And I assure you, almost always - simulates.
    2. IQ12NHJ21az
      IQ12NHJ21az 1 November 2017 21: 31
      +2
      And better - Liberalism as a refuge for a real moral monster.
  16. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 28 October 2017 11: 17
    +2
    The author forgot to mention one nuance.
    Про революцию в 17-м начал, но не закончил, а дело именно в этом. В 90-х произошла контрреволюция с приходом к власти тех, кого оттеснили на "вторые" роли" в 17-м. Реванш однако удался и по законам жанра, теперь все разумное, доброе, светлое построенное большевиками загоняется "белым террором" в те рамки, которые им ближе по менталитету. А дальше: "Скажите какая у вас власть и я скажу какая у вас "интеллигенция"".
    Former Minister of Education Levanov, a vivid representative of the current "intelligentsia" is worth it.
  17. Vasily Krylov
    Vasily Krylov 28 October 2017 13: 25
    +1
    PRIDE. Everyone is equal before the law. The author is a plus, plus. I am sure that in Russia the majority of the population shares the opinion of L.N. Gumilyov, even if they are not familiar with this name.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 28 October 2017 15: 50
      +2
      Quote: Vasily Krylov
      Before the law, everyone is equal.

      Do you really think that those who write these laws will offend themselves? laughing

      ps. I'm not a fan of Gumilyov - rather the opposite.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 28 October 2017 17: 31
        +1
        Do they write laws to offend people?
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 28 October 2017 17: 49
          0
          Quote: Mikhail3
          Do they write laws to offend people?

          Roman law, according to which we live today, gives people the illusion of justice. No more. Illiterate people do not write laws.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 29 October 2017 09: 03
            +1
            And this is fortunately. In the sense, fortunately, people do not write laws. Oh, and we had a sip ... The people in laws do not understand! And in government too. Laws are not intended to give people justice. It would be the same as if we were controlled by a cast-iron woman from a heavy copra.
            Justice is given by people to each other. No "mechanism" is adapted to this. Laws are called to serve as help, support and protection of justice, no more. The crazy jump that “everything must be according to the law” kills society and disfigures the law. Alas, an understanding of this indisputable fact most likely will not have time to penetrate the brains of the majority, at least the majority, of those in power.
            I'm afraid we are present at the very end of the drama called "modern civilization."
      2. Vasily Krylov
        Vasily Krylov 28 October 2017 22: 27
        +1
        First of all, about the fans. To be in agreement with the opinion of someone does not mean to be his fan. If we live in this state, we are obliged to fulfill the requirements prescribed by law. Note all the previous and subsequent thoughts are not entirely mine, but I share them. The state is created, initially, in interests of the majority of the population, a certain territory, its most passionate part, and then this population gets rid of this part. And in the end we get the government we deserve. ps It should be noted that, participating in all elections, he never voted for BNE and edrosov. Regards
  18. Deck
    Deck 28 October 2017 15: 12
    0
    "When I hear the word culture, I take my revolver off the guard." - National Socialist Hans Jost (1890-1978).
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  20. SMP
    SMP 28 October 2017 16: 52
    +3
    Where did this exaltation and self-exaltation of creative people in Russia and indeed humanities come from?


    If it weren’t for Lenin, no one would take these farce buffoons seriously,
    and to the intelligentsia would never have ranked.
    Lenin's famous phrase "You must firmly remember that cinema is the most important of all arts for us" is based on Lunacharsky's recollections of a conversation with Lenin in February 1922, which he set forth in a letter to Boltyansky dated January 29, 1925.

    They are just cogs, a small part in the big business of the film industry, and business loves silence so if it weren’t for the 1917 revolution, when the two systems interlocked and the movie was part of the war, so everyone would remain semi-serf actors of theaters and cinemas without getting out of debts and loans.
    And the film industry business of the capitalist countries has become a driving factor in propaganda and counter-propaganda (now called the information war) West, which worked and works, both industry, creating equipment for shooting and storing captured information and scientists developing the latest technologies, including in the field of psychology.
    And after the Second World War, the film industry generally became a factor in public policy both in the west and in the USSR.

    I am not at all against the creative professions, but you cannot bring the situation to idiocy when the opinion of a beautiful singer by the president’s choice is replicated everywhere as God's revelation. Well, she does not understand the management of even her micro-collective


    The opinion of these clowns is only the opinion of their owners, owners of different sectors of the mass-media business.
    As the meaning of their work is to play on the movie floors and the meaning of life so as not to lose popularity with viewers on the one hand, and on the other hand so as not to lose work they must quote what the owners want from them, or at least say what the business owners like.
    And any business all the more connected with high technologies for recording and playing back audio-video information needs advertising.
    Advertising will continue to be an occupation full of uncertainty; its purpose and role is not fully understood even by organizations that spend many hundreds of thousands of pounds on this business ”(C. Sandwich).
    The most elementary slogan, the simplest drawing is perceived, remembered by people according to internal psychological laws. The psychology of advertising is studying the mechanism of its effect on the human brain, as well as on the peculiarities of people's perception of certain expressive means - text, image, color, graphic design, etc.


    So, any statements of those who are called creative intelligentsia are nothing more than the voicing of the wishes of their employers by the owners of the media holdings, otherwise there will be no work, no contracts, no fees. The same thing is in the book publishing business.

    And why do we, ordinary people, indulge this? Perhaps, from the peculiarities of Russia, when in the 19th century and at the beginning of the 20th century it was precisely educated people who pulled an illiterate country out of the dark?


    Alas, social psychology is a science, and a serious science, capable of manipulating the masses including people with higher education, and not just illiterate peasants of the early 20th century, and the psychology of advertising is only an integral part of social psychology.

    This is not the intelligentsia but generously about paid advertising (propaganda) lifestyle that global corporations want to form in society, and that’s it.
    Nothing personal only business, but alas, it is disgusting.
    1. Seamaster
      Seamaster 28 October 2017 19: 14
      +3
      Lenin’s famous phrase “You must firmly remember that cinema is the most important thing for us” is based on Lunacharsky’s memoirs about a conversation with Lenin in February 1922, which he set out in a letter to Boltyansky dated January 29, 1925.
      Not certainly in that way. After the word "remember" it was: ... "that while our people are illiterate, of all the arts, cinema and the circus are the most important for us"
  21. Seamaster
    Seamaster 28 October 2017 19: 03
    +2
    The whole reason is that for some reason we have included singers, artists, athletes and Bozena Rynska, who joined them in the category of “intelligentsia”.
    But it is not.
    In the West, the word "intellectual" exists, and the word "intellectual" appeared in Russia in the second half of the 19th century.
    Among them were educated, spiritually developed people working for the good of their people.
    And the artists in Russia at that time in social terms were something like footmen. They did not belong to any intelligentsia.
    The same is true for artists. In Russia, 2–3 dozens of names belonged to them, and the person who painted the signs did not belong to the intelligentsia.
    The writer, who created the opuses about Vanka-Cain, did not call himself an intellectual and did not crawl out to teach the whole society how to live.
    And we ourselves ranked these people as "dolphins", and they consider others to be "biomass".
    So we have among the intellectuals a socialite, a school pedophile teacher and Bozena who has joined them.
    Good professions.
  22. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 28 October 2017 19: 03
    +2
    For me, he is not a representative of intelligence and culture, a man nails himself testicles to the pavement, a director manipulates the state. money, artists, athletes and other, other, other ...... if they are not patriots, but for some reason they take the right to teach us how to live.