The government proposed to reduce the quota for foreign workers in the Russian Federation

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The Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the country made a proposal to reduce the quota for foreign workers. The draft says that for Russia there is enough quota for workers with a foreign passport in the amount of approximately 140,4 thousand people. This is more than 20% below the bar that operates in the country today.

The government portal provides the text of the explanatory note to the initiative:
The amount of quotas for issuing work permits to foreign citizens is proposed to be approved in the amount of a specific need for 2018 year - 140 423 work permits.




The document notes that the proposal is consistent with the position of the interdepartmental commission. The commission includes representatives of various structures, including the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Economic Development.

The government proposed to reduce the quota for foreign workers in the Russian Federation


At this stage, the document is reportedly undergoing anti-corruption expertise.

Today in the Russian Federation there are over 8 million labor migrants. This is despite the fact that the annual quota does not exceed 170 thousand people. The largest number of guest workers is traditionally from the countries of Central Asia: Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan. Also in Russia are working citizens of Moldova, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and countries of the so-called foreign countries, including Turkey, the Philippines, etc.
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  1. +26
    26 October 2017 12: 25
    It is high time and illegal Gaster time to throw long ago.
    1. +9
      26 October 2017 12: 28
      They’ll take away the Gaster, Moscow will drown in the trash. laughing
      1. +8
        26 October 2017 12: 29
        They will simply give everyone the citizenship of the Russian Federation, and the problem is solved ...
        1. +5
          26 October 2017 12: 35
          Quote: bagr69
          They will simply give everyone the citizenship of the Russian Federation, and the problem is solved ...

          With a Russian passport, they will find a more paid job, so rights will appear.
          1. +7
            26 October 2017 12: 54
            Is there a fight between Tajiks and non-slaves? Make bets, gentlemen! smile
            1. +7
              26 October 2017 13: 00
              Quote: Black
              Is there a fight between Tajiks and non-slaves? Make bets, gentlemen!

              With a passport, they can occupy the niche of low-skilled workers that the early ones were occupied by Russians, security guards, traders, etc. where citizenship was required. But they will have the right to serve in law enforcement, military structures.
              So Tajiks in the faculty are the near future. smile
              1. +4
                26 October 2017 13: 26
                Quote: marshes
                With a passport, they can occupy the niche of low-skilled workers that the early ones were occupied by Russians, security guards, traders, etc. where citizenship was required. But they will have the right to serve in law enforcement, military structures.

                Neither for work as a security guard, nor for work as a trader, nor for service in the RF Armed Forces wink
                1. 0
                  26 October 2017 13: 40
                  Quote: Black
                  Neither for work as a security guard, nor for work as a trader, nor for service in the RF Armed Forces

                  They don’t know this, but they can demand it with a passport under the constitution. As well, payments under social programs, such as maternity capital, will increase.
                  So here is the opportunity to find the population lacking 150 lyam that would be in parity with at least the United States.
                  For example, we gave residence permits, citizenship, followed by an oath and knowledge of the Kazakh language, to foreigners who do not have autonomy in the territory of the former USSR from the former republics of the USSR and there are Turks, Kurds, Koreans, Dungans, working and entrepreneurial peoples, and they are not numerous. move and settle at their own expense and it is better to support ethnic Kazakhs living along the border, this is the security of the country. Others relocate.
                  1. +1
                    26 October 2017 13: 47
                    They don’t know this.
                    What do they mean they don’t know? ... And who do you think is in trade and security? smile ... you just have not been to Moscow for a long time smile
                    1. 0
                      26 October 2017 13: 53
                      Quote: Black
                      What do they mean they don’t know? ... And who do you think is in trade and security? ... you just have not been to Moscow for a long time

                      Yes, I admit that for a long time. And according to SHO, from Little Russia-Novorosia? laughing
                      They cannot demand, they are not citizens of the Russian Federation.
                      1. +10
                        26 October 2017 14: 01
                        And here are the wipers and only the wipers ?!
                        Do you know how many migrant workers actually receive and what is the quality of their "haptic" work ?!
                        Of you, probably, nobody worked at construction sites! Yes, they - guest workers - earn 4 times more than our domestic builders, because they also work “left” and not full time!
                        For example, laying a wall on which you need to spend 8 hours at a rate, they put in 2 hours. On 4 bricks on the mortar they have laid all 1 bricks! So live the future tenants in such a wind-blown house! Illegal Russian labor market has long been deformed in favor of foreigners.
                        85% of foreigners, except for tourists and students, without labor licenses, what are they doing in our country? They deform the domestic labor market by specialists and wages and thereby survive from the country, domestic skilled labor and Russian youth to other countries. There is a policy of replacing the indigenous population of the peoples of Russia, especially the Russian people, with citizens of other countries! Mostly from Wed. Az.!
                        Only the USA needed this - Obama and those who stood behind him!
                        In addition, see "Financial Risks of the National Security of the Russian Federation from Foreign Labor Migration" - https://topwar.ru/71406-finansovye-riski-nacional
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      2. +18
        26 October 2017 12: 33
        Quote: siberalt
        They’ll take away the Gaster, Moscow will drown in the trash. laughing

        Do not drown! Russians will begin to pay, but more. This is Good, to the boss!
        1. +15
          26 October 2017 12: 37
          Quote: Logall
          Do not drown! Russians will begin to pay, but more. This is Good, to the boss!

          so the janitor's salary in mrskva is already so good, they just saw it and the same tajik gets a penny
          1. +14
            26 October 2017 12: 42
            That’s the calculation! Pilezh stop, and not only. Create jobs, otherwise Jamsut knocks down prices!
            I forget to say hello all the time.
            Hi! hi
            1. +9
              26 October 2017 12: 46
              Hello Alexander hi
              otherwise Jamsut knocks down prices!
              he doesn’t shoot down - he helps someone to buy corn laughing
              1. +12
                26 October 2017 12: 53
                Yeah, and also look at our girls and lick their lips
                1. +7
                  26 October 2017 13: 00
                  You have to pay for your dumplings - but here it can also give a free ride hi
                  1. +12
                    26 October 2017 13: 09
                    He drove the `` lizun '' from him now for life! And if he finds himself in prison, then only among those offended !!!
                    Keep your mouth shut tongue lol
                    1. +5
                      26 October 2017 13: 22
                      you can’t argue laughing good
                2. +2
                  26 October 2017 20: 13
                  Quote: Logall
                  Yeah, and also look at our girls and lick their lips


                  Huh ... Here I am sitting and scratching turnips ... They showed the muscles of fitness girls ... Then: "Using physical strength, I licked the whole girl, including intimate places" ...
                  Honestly, this is possible if only the girl herself allows this action ...
                  I found myself an adventure ... Now it’s in the cell ...
          2. +2
            26 October 2017 13: 27
            Quote: Partyzan
            so the janitor's salary in mrskva is already so good, they just saw it and the same tajik gets a penny

            There is no one to cut - all UK companies are private organizations, there is maximum that there may be a gray salary.
            24000 rubles, of which you still have to pay for the patent - about twenty remain.
            And you also need to eat something, well, unless the hostel is free from them. Nothing good.
            1. +6
              26 October 2017 13: 32
              Quote: Gray Brother
              No one to cut - all UK

              receive on hands - 12-15 tyrov
              1. +4
                26 October 2017 13: 48
                Quote: Partyzan
                receive on hands - 12-15 tyrov

                It looks like the white part. Ours get 24, I screwed up with them when I did the repair myself, so I know for sure - they themselves told me.
                Now they all fled, only one stayed, at four houses. I can imagine what will happen in winter when the snow piles up.
                1. +5
                  26 October 2017 13: 49
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  all right now they all fled - only one stayed, at four houses. I can imagine what will happen in winter when the snow piles up.

                  but this is a question request
                2. +2
                  26 October 2017 20: 17
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  Now they all fled, only one stayed, at four houses.


                  So they get 24 ty not for one house ... And this is in Moscow? We (the Tula region) get wipers for 1 house, I'm afraid to lie, in the region of 1,5 thousand rubles ... So they take a few houses ...
                  By the way, where the guest workers are janitors - there is cleanliness and order, surprisingly ... What can you say about all of ours ...
          3. +1
            26 October 2017 14: 03
            Quote: Partyzan
            so the janitor's salary in mrskva is already so good, they just saw it and the same tajik gets a penny

            That's it, and if the bill fails then corruption won this round.
            1. +7
              26 October 2017 14: 11
              Quote: Jura
              That's it, and if the bill fails then corruption won this round.

              something like request
              1. 0
                27 October 2017 06: 39
                It seems spring removed from the anti-corruption committee? Recently, the news was ...
      3. +12
        26 October 2017 12: 35
        Quote: siberalt
        They’ll take away the Gaster, Moscow will drown in the trash. laughing

        Do you think there are few students and pensioners who want to earn extra money? They manage to do it in our city. And the proposal is not to completely remove, but to reduce the quota. Who will bring gold fish, which brings a considerable income to someone, will throw it in a frying pan in their pocket. hi
        1. +8
          26 October 2017 13: 12
          Exactly! We refused the "services" of the ZhEUShny Tajik janitor, aunty from our house we are dropping fifty dollars a month for a month - cleanly, pleasantly and for a pensioner of extra earnings.
          1. +7
            26 October 2017 13: 15
            The most interesting thing is that they began to spoil less, because the neighbor Aunt Larisa cleans. Oh!
      4. +2
        26 October 2017 13: 14
        Quote: siberalt
        They’ll take away the Gaster, Moscow will drown in the trash. laughing

        Until the 90's, Tatars kept the nobility in the capital. And they worked very well. And now the housing and communal services has distributed a very interesting scheme - shift. People come to Moscow from neighboring regions, for example, from Smolensk.
      5. +2
        26 October 2017 18: 38
        Quote: siberalt
        They’ll take away the Gaster, Moscow will drown in the trash.


        Hey. Illegal gaster are found mainly in the areas of stall selling, loaders at vegetable depots and construction, where the owners save on cheap labor. Janitors work mostly legally (this area of ​​the Ministry of Internal Affairs is woolly all the time). But it will not be possible to completely remove illegal immigrants, because the police also want to eat for free and have a good increase in salary from the “wards”. Yes
      6. 0
        26 October 2017 20: 06
        Quote: siberalt
        They’ll take away the Gaster, Moscow will drown in the trash. laughing

        Do not drown, they will attract people from the nearest regions. Yes and the price tag will increase, they will start buying equipment
      7. 0
        27 October 2017 00: 10
        Quote: siberalt
        They’ll take away the Gaster, Moscow will drown in the trash. laughing

        Do not drown! Instead of ten Tajiks, one Russian will work with brooms, but on a technique that you can’t trust in Tajiks. It's like dozens of turners with CNC complexes, but one center, even complex and expensive, is enough .. And the operator of this center will receive five times more salary than an ordinary turner ..
        1. 0
          27 October 2017 10: 16
          I doubt that I have never found a Russian squanderer, but a Tajik with two towers, on three machines, raises a hundred hectares of zp.
    2. 0
      27 October 2017 10: 15
      Will you, revenge street?
  2. wot
    +11
    26 October 2017 12: 31
    Quote: siberalt
    They will remove the migrants, Moscow will drown in the trash.

    on the contrary, no one will litter laughing + crime will be less
    1. +9
      26 October 2017 12: 33
      How much our brother spoils (especially in places of rest), here not one migrant will not steal.
      1. +1
        26 October 2017 14: 39
        According to UNESCO, the objective indicators of the Russian Federation are the cleanest country.
        So shtab uzbogsya already.
        1. +3
          26 October 2017 15: 18
          Excuse me, but I can not calm down when I go to the forest for mushrooms, and there 15 meters from the edge of the forest the land is not visible, because local summer residents threw everything with their garbage, roadside ditches are littered, because it’s very difficult for someone to bring garbage to the container, the riverbanks are messed up by vacationers, not to approach. About the cigarette butts flying from the windows of the car, I generally keep quiet ... And all this is just a migrant from the neighboring countries.
          So UNESCO is also a "interests" office that measures the average for a hospital. One must be blind or stay at home, reading the reports of UNESCO, so as not to see all of the above.
          1. +1
            26 October 2017 15: 38
            But in Europe or in the East did not pick mushrooms? With eyes and teeth?
            By the way, for throwing garbage out of a car’s windows, they are fined nipadetski. By surveillance cameras. And there are forest managers who deal with suburban and roadside sites. With garbage - to them and the traffic police.
  3. +1
    26 October 2017 12: 33
    This is the first step. Further, now it is necessary that the Russians take these places, to increase the salaries of the same janitors from 3-4 tons to at least 10-15 tons.
    1. +1
      26 October 2017 14: 41
      So it already is.
    2. +1
      27 October 2017 00: 13
      Quote: vladimirvn

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      vladimirvn Yesterday, 12:33
      This is the first step. Further, now it is necessary that the Russians take these places, to increase the salaries of the same janitors from 3-4 tons to at least 10-15 tons.

      Dyk according to the reporting s \ n at janitors in Moscow is 40t \ r, and Tajiks don’t get more than 15 on their hands, and this is one of the meanings of their existence .. But there are still many such meanings ...
      1. +1
        27 October 2017 14: 04
        In the teams of the nearest ZhEKs (and we have half a city) there are no migrants.
        In addition, the places of the janitors / cleaners of the porches are fixed in the rehabilitation program of those released.
  4. +1
    26 October 2017 12: 42
    Quote: 79807420129
    It’s time, and it’s time to throw out illegal Gaster.

    I completely agree with your opinion.
  5. +3
    26 October 2017 12: 43
    Quote: siberalt
    They’ll take away the Gaster, Moscow will drown in the trash. laughing

    I don’t agree .... corruption schemes will be removed .... the janitor gets 12-15 thousand, with the official 30-35 (this is about Moscow), the difference is cleaned by the HOA or the management company ... but where do you get such hair on the periphery now ?. ...
  6. +4
    26 October 2017 12: 48
    It’s not a matter of migrants, but of a “crooked” state economy. They could not build capitalism with a “human” face, and no one knows how to live on
  7. +6
    26 October 2017 12: 50
    And that from this piece of paper will change, but nothing. As it was, it will remain so. 8 million labor migrants, so why laugh.
  8. +4
    26 October 2017 12: 50
    Today in the Russian Federation there are over 8 million labor migrants. This despite the fact that the annual quota does not exceed 170 thousand people.
    So it can at first bring the number of migrants to the desired 170 thousand, and then decide whether to reduce it yet or not - or I don’t understand something request
  9. +1
    26 October 2017 12: 55
    ... the numbers diverge at times ... when will this only happen? ... and how much the migrant dough will ask for the expulsion of the "detainees" ... request
    1. 0
      26 October 2017 14: 43
      Like Myanmar ?! No, I don’t hint at anything ...
  10. +7
    26 October 2017 13: 12
    "... The Ministry of Labor and Social Security came up with a proposal to reduce the quota for foreign workers ..."
    Well, well ... And on the ground, what do our businessmen feel about this? I think, as always, Moscow is not a decree for us! The dog barks - the wind wears, etc. ... Or the local pay a salary or half to the newcomer! So that illegal migration will flourish, if there is a ban, ours will try to circumvent it ...
    If in Norilsk along the Yenisei in a container with gastarba potatoes they were brought, then is this beneficial to anyone? Imagine six days in a closed container, with stew and without a toilet ... But these are private traders!
    And the NMMC generally burned then: when he became a guardian of the North Caucasus and the vice-medvedev, Khloponin generally solved the problem of unemployment among the Nogais, he simply brought three hundred Nogai families to Norilsk, like they would have to work at the Combine, gave them considerable lift, resettled in the living room, live, work !!! Yeah, damn it, who saw the Nogay in the mine? We ran up to taxi companies, refilled all rental rentals ... and that's all ... What they do now, one Ministry of Internal Affairs knows ... The women looked like they were in national clothes and were blown away too ... But Khloposha reported upstairs that he was entrusted to him unemployment declined in the territory, and 100% of this budget scammed money from the budget, not the Combine threw it into the wind ...
    1. +6
      26 October 2017 13: 53
      Quote: Evrodav
      Or a local pay a salary or half to the newcomer! So that illegal migration will flourish, if there is a ban, ours will try to circumvent it ...

      Not a lot of confusion ..... migrant workers are called non-citizens of the Russian Federation, Nogai citizens!
      Khloponin was our governor (Krasnoyarsk)
      The problem was solved ... the problem was that the Norilsk residents did not want to work for a low (as they believed) salary, and he brought those who agreed to work ....
      Even if a part escaped from production ... but at that time the problem was solved ...
      The fact that he is also welded on this so what?
      This can not be called a scam ...
      I know this problem not by hearsay, in Norilsk I had to work, “hope” ...
      I agree that foreigners it is necessary to limit work because work has become less, money too .... so that work should be received first of all, your own, employers must be forced to do this !!!!
  11. +1
    26 October 2017 13: 33
    It's time to replace robots. There is no sense in low-skilled workers.
    1. +1
      26 October 2017 14: 22
      Tajiks will produce robots?
      1. +2
        26 October 2017 22: 36
        And what - no one to do? Moreover, robots are the highest degree of substitution of labor. Take the same wipers - if in winter you need several people to wave shovels - then they can easily be replaced by one person with a mini-snow blower. And so in everything. To establish the production of mini-snowplows - this is at the level of production of agricultural equipment - has long been successfully done.
  12. +1
    26 October 2017 14: 26
    you must do this initially, introduce restrictions ... now you can’t throw them out with a broom
  13. +2
    26 October 2017 14: 35
    Yes, half of my colleagues from Belarus in the Russian Federation are sitting. Why did you forget to write about us?
    1. +4
      26 October 2017 14: 54
      Quote: Sling
      Yes, half of my colleagues from Belarus in the Russian Federation are sitting. Why did you forget to write about us?

      Because all who are from RB they are at home and not migrant workers. Does this answer suit you?
      1. +2
        26 October 2017 15: 21
        Quote: Jura
        Quote: Sling
        Yes, half of my colleagues from Belarus in the Russian Federation are sitting. Why did you forget to write about us?

        Because all who are from RB they are at home and not migrant workers. Does this answer suit you?

        It is quite hi
  14. +3
    26 October 2017 15: 02
    Of course, we must get off this needle, we have enough of our unemployed, somehow we need to find a job.
    It is clear that many will be better against them with a “Better Number, Cheaper Cost" ... but this should be stopped gradually, although immediately after many years of guest workers' presence, it will not work.
    Many will be against it, but it is necessary.
    Although here the question of questions arises. How to remove them - after all, many of them have long been CITIZENS OF RUSSIA by birth right here, and their parents are large and enjoy all possible benefits ...
    Russians have no time to sit on the administration of incentives to beat time, and guest workers have it very well established.
    In a word, it would be nice, but there are many questions.
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  16. +1
    26 October 2017 15: 26
    Good too. Its more jobs will remain.
    1. +2
      26 October 2017 15: 43
      In Moscow, a young migrant from Wed. Az cleans the staircase. There is a schoolgirl 10th grade. Says: "Thank you. How well you clean the porch." And she answers her, "It’s you who live in this house today, and I clean the porch. Tomorrow I will live in this house, and you will clean the porch."
      My daughter told her.
  17. 0
    26 October 2017 15: 41
    Unemployment will be in the country, while employers accept Gaster for a gray salary, or even for a simple throw. It is unprofitable to have an employment relationship with citizens.
  18. 0
    27 October 2017 06: 36
    In Japan, a foreign citizen can be hired only with a salary higher than for a domestic worker, as a result, high-class foreign specialists travel, but there are no homeless people. Law.
  19. 0
    27 October 2017 07: 14
    Tatyana,
    Quote: Tatiana
    There is a policy of replacing the indigenous population of the peoples of Russia, especially the Russian people, with citizens of other countries! Mostly from Wed. Az.!
    Only the USA needed this - Obama and those who stood behind him!

    This is necessary above all for our capitalists. And the same Uzbeks are hired by ordinary citizens. For example, a country house is cheaper to repair. And you again accuse Obama that he pissed all the entrances
    1. 0
      27 October 2017 12: 30
      gaura
      For example, a country house is cheaper to repair.
      I don’t know about country houses, but about apartments - their "cheapness" will definitely cost you dearly. Guest workers have no honesty and conscience in their work! How many they have deceived our naive tenants for apartment renovation and employers - not to count! And the Russians are all on their "cheaper" run up! Continue in the same spirit! And think mercantile only about your pocket, and not about the country!
      Normal quality of work has an established price on the market! Want lower market prices for good quality? Get poorly executed and unfinished work, stolen and spoiled materials, advance payments paid to employees without any work being done by them - and then look for "wind" in the field!
      And then they can burn you a cottage, if you do not let them live there later.

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