Warsaw, repent

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10 April 2010 of the year. This date is considered the most tragic in its new stories Polish citizens. Fairly considered. After all, we are talking about the death of almost the entire Polish political and military elite - near the Smolensk-Severny airfield, when the Tu-154 crashed, allowing contact with the tree while going down in low visibility conditions. In total, there were 96 people aboard, including 88 representatives of the polyalis of the Polish state.





In connection with the latest reports from Poland, it would not be superfluous to return to the details of that terrible tragedy.

In addition to the then head of state Lech Kaczynski and his wife Maria, the list of victims includes such persons as Slavomir Skripek, head of the National Bank of Poland, Air Force Commander Gen. Anjay Blasik, Navy Commander Vice Admiral Andrzej Karweta, Land Forces Commander Tadeusz Buck, Chief of the General Staff of the Polish Navy, in charge of land forces Tadeusz Buck, Head of the General Staff of the Polish Navy, the commander of the Polish Armed Forces Bronislav Kvitkovsky, the head of the Polish special services Alexander Schiglo, the commander of the special forces of Poland Vlodzimierz Potasinsky.

Indeed, tragedy. In the ridiculous plane crash, which certainly could not have happened, virtually all of the Polish elite perished: both military-political and economic.

What is ridiculous? Oh ... in fact, the absurdity is not one, but, as is often the case in tragic cases, there is a whole set of them. Deciphering the records of the flight recorders and the results of analyzes of the liner fragments and the remains of the bodies of the dead, these absurdities presented what is called in full view.

Some important facts:
15 minutes before the crash, the commander of the aircraft captain Arkadiusz Protasiuk, in fact violating the PIC's actions, decided to “confer” with the head of the protocol of the Polish Foreign Ministry, director of the diplomatic protocol Mariusz Qazana:
Director, the fog has appeared. At the moment, in these conditions that we have now, we will not be able to sit down. Let's try to come up, we will make one run, but most likely, nothing will come of it. So ask, please (at the chef) what we will do.


An experienced pilot, with a touch of hours over 3,5 thousand, of which almost 500 hours as a FAC on the same Tu-154, asks the boss of the Foreign Ministry "from the chief" how he should proceed further ... This is nonsense, which, in fact, demonstrates total disregard by the “main passenger” to the experience and professionalism of the captain of the Polish Air Force.

Could the 35-year-old captain act according to the letter of the charter, and not according to the mood of the president? Could, but psychology was stronger than the charter. The fact is that it was not so much President Kaczynski as such that pressed Protasiuk, as the August episode of 2008, when the other FAC did not follow the order of the president. We are talking about Grzegorzek Petruchuk, who was suspended from work in the air force squad of special importance, in fact, because XHUMX saved the life of Lech Kaczynski. Then Kaczynski demanded from the pilot to land the plane in the capital of Georgia, but Petruchuk, well aware of the hostilities in this country, sent a “chef to ignore” and led the plane to the Azerbaijani airport Ganja. The co-pilot then was Protasyuk.

From 2008 onwards, he was clearly haunted by the thought that it was impossible to disobey the “boss”, that there was a charter for a pilot of a presidential airliner, but there was a presidential anger that could result in a loss of work. The fact that presidential anger is worth far less than human life, Captain Protasyuk, of course, did not think.

Another fact.

The dispatcher of the airfield "Smolensk-Severny" (after repeated attempts to get the pilots to divert the aircraft to the alternate aerodrome due to a sharp deterioration in weather conditions):
Report current height.


The answer about the current altitude from the pilots to the control room arrived only a few minutes after the request. And this is taking into account the fact that the plane has already tried to land. The crew, having led the aircraft to a distance of approximately 2,5 km from the end of the runway, informed the dispatcher about the height of the side. After that, after the 19, before the tree touched the wing of the Tu-154, the controller dispatched to the crew that the airliner was on a glide path. Further, the actions of the FAC Protasyuk cause further questions. One of the main questions is: why did the pilot need to take the plane to a decline at a vertical speed to 9 m / s, although usually in these cases the vertical decrease goes at a speed of more than 4-5 m / s. The plane went below the glide path. And after all these actions did not cause a question from other crew members.

Then the alert system for dangerous approach to ground (TAWS) is triggered. The co-pilot (Major Robert Gzhivna) calls on “swearing” to urgently stop the decline, as is also required by the electronics. The same requires "tower" in Smolensk with another call or to care for the alternate airfield, or the second round.

An interesting fact: at the time of the collision of the wing of the aircraft with a tree, the airliner had already “sank” below the runway end, which was still more than a kilometer away. The fact is that the liner went into a ravine covered with trees. In this case, the FAC pulled the steering wheel so sharply that the angle of attack turned out to be beyond. It says that even if the ill-fated birch did not appear on the Tu-154, the plane would still fall to the ground as a result of stalling, and would fall even faster (the ravine extended the flight for a couple of seconds).

Repeated appeals of the Smolensk dispatcher did not lead to anything, since the plane was already destroyed. It, as a result of the strike and actions of the crew in an attempt to raise the nose, turned to such an angle that the plane continued to “cut through” the deadly clearing in the forest belt almost half-and-half. The commission has fixed the turning angle of more than 110 degrees.

And at the moment of the last minutes of life of all those who were aboard the plane, in the cockpit, General Blasik also sipped beer, who apparently decided with his personal presence to demonstrate to the crew the determination of the “chief” to sit here and now. I didn’t want to drag out the memorial action in Katyn that I myself became a part of the renewed memorial, which in Russia, by the way, is followed much better than many of its own memorials and architectural monuments.

This is all due to the fact that the Polish press, at the suggestion of Defense Minister Anthony Matserevich, decided not only to encourage tinkering in the graves (and the exhumation of the President’s remains was already carried out, but quietly buried the remains back), but also to expose herself as a mockery with statements about the alleged “carved fragment of the explosion on board. "

This is from Matzerevich:
The moment of the explosion was identified - we found it in the recording of one of the recorders. We are currently engaged in its analysis and exclusion of all other interpretations of this electronic record.


It is noted that the "explosion" lasted as much 4,5 seconds. At the same time, no information is published about which “plot” of the recorder's tape was “cut out”. But not for objective reasons. After all, if you name the exact time, you can easily determine the fraud. Although it is not even a scam. This is a trivial uporosti that floats to the surface in any case.

To the one who “explosion” according to Matserevich, arranged, you can assign the highest level of prudence and composure. "Undermine" Tu-154, waiting for when the plane reaches Smolensk, when the fog becomes thicker, when the radio starts with a "tower". "Undermine" so that the plane went away from the landing line in the direction of the forest belt, where "sweep away the tracks" with the help of a ravine with a birch ... "Undermine" so that after the "explosion" no one got any damage from an "explosive device", but from a collision of an airplane with a tree — as much as you like. To “undermine” so that nobody noticed this on board, and so that the FAC himself turned the airliner into a decline with a double vertical speed, and this didn’t cause any complaints in anyone in the cockpit.

In general, the situation with Polish statements about the causes of the crash looks as if Matserevich stubbornly wants to get out, as they say, on "themselves." Poland itself killed its president? .. Well, then the call for Warsaw can be only one: Repent ...
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  1. +12
    26 October 2017 05: 43
    Poland itself killed its president? .. Well, then there can only be one call for Warsaw: Repent ...


    The Polish ambition is higher than the Polish mind ... hence all the problems of the Poles ... I'm afraid this ambition will put more than one Pole next to Kaczynski ... in general, Polish disgrace.
    1. +11
      26 October 2017 06: 25
      And do not care how much they put the Poles next to the president .... The plane crashed on the outskirts of the city .. In the industrial zone. A little to the side and ... into the neighborhood would fly .. What then. Who would repent?
      Quote: The same Lech
      Poland itself killed its president? .. Well, then there can only be one call for Warsaw: Repent ...


      The Polish ambition is higher than the Polish mind ... hence all the problems of the Poles ... I'm afraid this ambition will put more than one Pole next to Kaczynski ... in general, Polish disgrace.
      1. +4
        26 October 2017 14: 38
        I live there in this area. True, at the time of the fall I was in the center, so I would have lost my home most likely ... and maybe some relatives. Well, something like that hardly bothered Kaczynski. Wrong people ...
        1. +2
          26 October 2017 16: 44
          Yes, and I was also .. in the market. A colleague at work on Frunze walked a little further than the “airplane”. I didn’t hear anything, there was such a thick fog ..
          Quote: Mikhail3
          I live there in this area. True, at the time of the fall I was in the center, so I would have lost my home most likely ... and maybe some relatives. Well, something like that hardly bothered Kaczynski. Wrong people ...
    2. +8
      26 October 2017 08: 15
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The Polish ambition is higher than the Polish mind ... hence all the problems of the Poles ... I'm afraid this ambition will put more than one Pole next to Kaczynski ... in general, Polish disgrace.

      Yes, apparently, Psheks simply lust for the next section of their pseudo state. Most likely it will happen. Neither Ukrainians nor Psheks can independently be controlled - a mentality distorted by Catholics and wars.
      1. +12
        26 October 2017 11: 06
        to encourage picking in the graves (and the exhumation of the president’s remains has already been carried out, but quietly buried the remains back),

        It’s their mania such that they are raising the dead, damn necrophiles. fool
    3. +7
      26 October 2017 08: 44
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Polish ambition is higher than Polish reason ...

      It is sad that there was no second “gnome” on board. Now there would be less stink!
    4. wax
      0
      26 October 2017 09: 49
      I'm afraid this ambition will put more than one Pole

      Should we be afraid?
    5. 0
      26 October 2017 09: 56
      Honor is ambition. They have common sense and reality have long been replaced by instructions from the SGA. Strange they are, for 300 years history has not taught them anything. Their problems.
    6. +2
      26 October 2017 10: 30
      What is there to understand. We need to find the one who planted this ill-fated birch, for which the Polish plane caught its wing and shackled him in The Hague! am
      1. 0
        26 October 2017 12: 20
        Quote: siberalt
        sibiralt Today, 10:30 ↑ New
        What is there to understand. We need to find the one who planted this unfortunate birch, for which a Polish plane caught its wing and in the Hague in shackles

        Well, everything is clear with the forester. Its anyway in the Gulag without the right to correspondence. By the way, did our leshozes disband, by chance, not in order to cover up all the traces with that birch?
        But you can’t get this sickle-lelek with a pontolik, he knows for sure that the explosives were put on the plane. How does he know? Duc, he himself laid ...
      2. +3
        26 October 2017 15: 44
        Hello, tower? Reporting "first." The birch is ready, plant the guests!
      3. -1
        28 October 2017 11: 08
        And the one who dug up the ravine - too.
    7. +4
      26 October 2017 12: 10
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The Polish ambition is higher than the Polish mind ... hence all the problems of the Poles ... I'm afraid this ambition will put more than one Pole next to Kaczynski ... in general, Polish disgrace.

      I don’t know how true or not, but recently I read somewhere that the Poles exhumed the bodies of the dead more than 40 times. There is no rest for Kaczynski and his ilk neither in this world, nor in that. Otherwise, you cannot call this action a fool. Bury on LSI!
      1. +2
        26 October 2017 14: 33
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        There is no rest for Kaczynski and his ilk neither in this world, nor in that.

        Looks like he’ve sinned so much that they don’t even take him to hell ... so he thinks he’s indecisive, they will dig it out, or say it correctly, they will bury it in the BIS ...
        1. +4
          26 October 2017 15: 10
          and if it’s not too early to bury - suddenly what other thought will knock on Matsarevich’s smart head?
          1. +2
            26 October 2017 15: 20
            Quote: novel xnumx
            and if it’s not too early to bury - suddenly what other thought will knock on Matsarevich’s smart head?

            Well, they haven’t dismissed the diggers' briquette yet ...
  2. +8
    26 October 2017 06: 02
    It can be argued for any amount that if you transfer the wreckage of the plane to Poland, the number of traces of explosives on EVERY fragment will be shocking to the world community.
    1. +4
      26 October 2017 06: 08
      that if you transfer the wreckage of the aircraft to Poland, the number of traces of explosives on EVERY fragment will be shocking to the world community.

      I agree ... smile
      Matserevich will personally stick a piece of plastid to each fragment with markings made in RUSSIA.
      1. +2
        26 October 2017 09: 01
        And the inscription will scratch .. "There was Volodya" ...
        Quote: The same Lech
        that if you transfer the wreckage of the aircraft to Poland, the number of traces of explosives on EVERY fragment will be shocking to the world community.

        I agree ... smile
        Matserevich will personally stick a piece of plastid to each fragment with markings made in RUSSIA.
        1. +2
          26 October 2017 12: 12
          If they were given debris, then they would further discover that the explosion was outside. Further, that it was fired from a BUK, maybe even from the one that supposedly was in the Donbass. And the Europeans, with joy and friendly nodding to each other, would recognize this. Oxymoron and only.
    2. +3
      26 October 2017 14: 36
      Quote: Victor_B
      on EVERY fragment will be shocking to the world community.

      Only now I don’t understand what is the reason for the explosion? The plane flew from Warsaw, from a military airfield, set off there and laid ..., from satellites the use of air defense was not recorded ... request
      1. +1
        26 October 2017 14: 50
        Quote: NIKNN
        Only now I don’t understand what is the reason for the explosion?

        They want to carve themselves, as the non-commissioned widow did. But this is not Gogol and the consequences are not predictable.
        1. +2
          26 October 2017 14: 58
          Quote: Amurets
          and the consequences are not predictable.

          smile although, it seems that something can be predicted ..., only to sense, they will not listen ... request
      2. +5
        26 October 2017 23: 03
        Well, with the explosion, then everything is clear - if the wreckage were investigated in Poland, then for sure, well, they would have found evidence of 352% that it’s GDP personally, a super duper nano mega grande threw an awesome rocket with the hand into the plane. And since the Russians have the best air defense in the world, they have SUCH missiles that the Russians, of course, will not tell anyone from progressive humanity, but the Poles know !!! - from them there are no fragments, no traces, no smells. Only the sound of the explosion is exactly 4,5 seconds. And AGRICULTURAL destruction with cover in the form of birch bark.
        There they also saw a business card with the inscription PRESEDENT Rosii. One of the passengers managed to call Matserevich about this personally and report back until he left for Kaczynski. But she, this business card, the Russians, poorly dressed soldiers took to the break - they froze, the newspapers ran out, and the makhra, the infection, does not burn without paper. And vaoobsh, these Russians, they are! The world doesn’t even know what they are capable of. They fly with the Siberian Cranes, and they bring down the plane to them with a birch rocket - in general, as the Pole can pronounce the letter shh.
  3. +7
    26 October 2017 06: 33
    I already wrote that the Poles pulled corpses from graves to check the version of that. that the supposedly special forces of Russia sat there in an ambush and finished off all the passengers who supposedly remained alive. There the versions were one cooler than the other, such as special forces in order not to leave traces, they finished off the unfortunate with clubs, broke their necks, and poured vodka into the mouths of the corpses. All of Poland shuddered while reading the horrors that the fictional Russian commandos were doing with unfortunate passengers. "Evidence" of the presence of special forces was as always pulled out of social networks and from the fact that someone tried to use the bank cards of those killed in local ATMs just a couple of hours after the tragedy, which supposedly confirms the version of the "ambush" type, just waiting for the plane could quickly arrive at the scene of the disaster, and then after the operation is completed, leave and go try to cash out the "killed" cards. True, the Poles, with a loud pomp, exhumed corpses, then they were quietly buried back .....
    1. +5
      26 October 2017 07: 00
      True, the Poles, with a loud pomp, exhumed corpses, then they were already quiet, buried back....

      ... here, "to dig back" dozens of current ones, such as macerevichs, you look and would sing differently ... bully
    2. +1
      28 October 2017 11: 19
      They forgot that they found bottles of moonshine with the sticker "Putinka", special birch stumps, five anti-aircraft slingshots and two bear-guards, who then took everything from the investigators and disappeared into the woods. Unlucky Polish justice.
  4. +2
    26 October 2017 07: 01
    ... the Poles are already jumping above their heads to please the owners ... angry
  5. +8
    26 October 2017 07: 21
    Lech Alexander Kaczynski - on the second attempt, suicide still succeeded ...
    1. +1
      26 October 2017 09: 58
      The stubborn type, oh well, from the second attempt he hid, he grabbed his accomplices there. I hope the devils met them with dignity.
      1. +1
        26 October 2017 14: 44
        Quote: AKuzenka
        I hope the devils met them with dignity.

        Do not take ... belay , it’s not for nothing that they dig them out, then they dig them in again ... maybe the next time they will bribe the devils, they will take pity on the Poles ... request
  6. +6
    26 October 2017 07: 27
    Only Poles are capable of such a whistle on the bones of their own elite, and of course, Ukrainians. "Matsarevichi" is a product obtained already at the genetic level, which is abruptly implicated in rabid Russophobia.
    1. +4
      26 October 2017 08: 18
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Only Poles are capable of such a whistle on the bones of their own elite

      However, they are not afraid of the idea that if this is really a diversion of the Russians, then all their special services and counterintelligence, security services - all turn into degenerates. And this, instead of just giving the chance to the deceased Kachinsky to be a man - a person is often mistaken, their president made a mistake deciding to sit in Smolensk, it’s very human, it’s normal, it’s not humiliating.
      1. 0
        26 October 2017 14: 57
        Quote: Alex_59
        However, they are not afraid of the idea that if this is really a diversion of the Russians, then all their special services and counterintelligence, security services - all turn into degenerates.

        The entire ruling elite of Poland is becoming degenerate. How can you trust such special services? And if the special services are adequate to what I believe more than the adequacy of politicians, then it’s scary to stand up for the people of this country.
  7. +1
    26 October 2017 08: 11
    God is not a louse - he sees a little bit.
  8. +1
    26 October 2017 08: 11
    A joke about disaster and misfortune can be remembered.
  9. +5
    26 October 2017 08: 15
    If our people knew how to do such operations in such a sensible way, then no attempt to investigate this incident again in Poland would be possible - all who would try to do this would suddenly choke on pizza or fall under a random truck. So the very fact of the Poles trying to inflate the buch suggests that their version is nonsense.
    1. +3
      26 October 2017 09: 38
      Uh-uh ... Can you imagine in what direction and how seriously clinically the head of the Poles "curled up" ... Do you think that since you didn’t roll with the corpses, then the Poles have abandoned the version of "Russian special forces in ambush"? No matter how! Now they kind of found “traces” of the explosives and the record of the explosion and went to work in the direction that the Russian special services in a compartment with the bribed employees of the Polish “Bezpeka” had all sprinkled it and arranged it. Or again the special forces fired a rocket and then removed its wreckage, supposedly therefore, the Russians do not allow the Poles to investigate all the wreckage and the place of the disaster ... No ... there (the Poles) everything is clinically very serious, they finally moved to Russophobia ...
      1. +4
        26 October 2017 09: 44
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        there (among the Poles) everything is clinically very serious, they finally shifted to Russophobia ...

        To one degree or another, the disease has struck a lot of states and vast segments of the world's population. I'm talking about X-phobia. Russophobia in the USA, among the Poles too. We have our own strain of the virus - USA phobia. In our country, too, the Americans are to blame. But perhaps only in Poland, and perhaps still in Ukraine, the disease passed into the terminal stage. The disease is, in principle, treatable - Bulgarians and Hungarians are improving, there are hopes for recovery among us and the Americans. It’s better to finish the Poles, I think.
      2. +4
        26 October 2017 10: 17
        To deviate from the conspiracy theory ... for the Poles, this means recognizing that they are the only ones in the whole world ... they could ditch their entire elite ...
  10. +1
    26 October 2017 10: 35
    But it’s enough to read the official conclusion of the commission, access to which is free to understand that there’s no way to juggle it. And the negotiations and testimonies of the recorders indicate the cause of the tragedy.
    If rigged, then changed all the data for the last 20 minutes.
    But reading a report is a bust, a document is large, difficult to read, and difficult for the psyche. Easier to read forums, jaundice and official government statements. Everything is simple and clear, the Kremlin’s hand is to blame (I saw it by a tree), and that’s it.
    The house is interesting, a link to the conclusion:
    http://mak-iac.org/upload/iblock/807/finalreport_
    rus.pdf
  11. +7
    26 October 2017 11: 33
    "Petruchuk, well aware of the hostilities in this country, sent a" chief to ignore "and led the plane to the Ganja airport in Azerbaijan" ... I think he was not told that he was fired and put a candle in the cathedral more than once.
  12. +4
    26 October 2017 11: 47
    it’s hard to be principled when the boss pokes a can of beer in the back
  13. 0
    26 October 2017 13: 46
    Matserevich at that moment could not be on board, he would have personally supervised the catastrophe.
  14. +1
    26 October 2017 13: 52
    In the list of the dead ... such persons as ....

    Applause to the Poles! What career opportunities open up for active and toothy ... so to speak: a social elevator in action! In one fell swoop to free so many commanding chairs ... This is something!
    In the direct sense, you understand, the infusion of new blood into the Polish political elite ...
    Hey Poles! The premiere was a success. The public requires an encore to repeat the performance!
    Please! Please!
  15. +7
    26 October 2017 14: 23
    The ill-fated birch in uniform of the KGB was awarded the Order of Merit to the Fatherland in secret. At the moment, the Guard Senior Sergeant "branchy birch" is on a mission in Togliatti.
  16. +1
    26 October 2017 14: 58
    Jump to the new section and they will sing another strip of non-anguished
    1. +1
      26 October 2017 15: 05
      Quote: Ferdinant
      Jump to the new section and they will sing another strip of non-anguished

      I think that they will dance their favorite polonaise "Farewell to the motherland" by Mikhail Oginsky.
  17. +2
    26 October 2017 18: 40
    [quote = sibiralt] It is necessary to find the one who planted this unfortunate birch, for which the Polish plane caught its wing
    So everyone already knows that it was Stalin and Beria who put her on a community work day! wink
  18. 0
    27 October 2017 11: 36
    How disgusting is this digging in the graves and for the sake of what? To once again demonstrate the madness of notorious Russophobia in Poland? Can't admit that because of their arrogance and ambition, they ruined their own president? They don’t even want to repent, is Matsarevich trying to make political capital on coffins? And these are Catholics, shame on them.
  19. +2
    28 October 2017 02: 23
    Anonymous article and complete nonsense.
  20. 0
    28 October 2017 03: 57
    yes there the whole trick is that Stalin ... planted a Christmas tree (foresaw a despot))))
  21. 0
    28 October 2017 11: 05
    The next "find" of the Poles will be like this - an aircraft with a Pole top was shot down by an anti-aircraft missile of Russian air defense bully
  22. 0
    28 October 2017 11: 13
    They understood nothing and did not learn anything.
  23. +1
    29 October 2017 12: 57
    It would seem that. Everything is clear as twice two. The pilot grossly violated the approach procedure and paid. And no RP will save if the cab decided to fall below the threshold of the strip before the passage of the BPRM.
    They searched for the land and found it.
    But there is one more circumstance. With this flight, they put an end to the American version of the Pentagon attack.
  24. 0
    29 October 2017 15: 27
    Quote: shuravi
    It would seem that. Everything is clear as twice two. The pilot grossly violated the approach procedure and paid. And no RP will save if the cab decided to fall below the threshold of the strip before the passage of the BPRM.
    They searched for the land and found it.
    But there is one more circumstance. With this flight, they put an end to the American version of the Pentagon attack.

    honestly, I didn’t understand with the connection with the attack on the Pentagon and the fall of the presidential board?
    1. +2
      29 October 2017 21: 22
      You don’t see how on the frames of the ov’s reconstruction the plane, at a speed of more than 500 miles per hour near the ground (!!!!) with planes, like pins knocks down metal poles?
      When in reality a simple birch cuts a plane at a much lower speed?
  25. 0
    29 October 2017 21: 07
    duck plane flew from Poland. He served his Poles. Even if they blew it up, the Poles themselves did it. Nevertheless, this is not an ordinary scheduled flight. The characters are probably serving him specially and far from the street, characters ...

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