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The submarine "Krasnodar", struck by terrorists, alarmed NATO

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The Russian submarine Krasnodar, which this year unnoticed by NATO military ships passed through the waters of the Mediterranean and struck at the Islamists in Palmyra, alarmed by NATO, leads InoTV article published in the Daily Star.




The Russian “ghost submarine” gave rise to concerns about the possible start of the “second cold war,” the newspaper writes.

The article also notes that President Putin warned NATO of the passage of the submarine, which was sent to participate in military maneuvers.

“And the North Atlantic alliance deployed anti-submarine ships in the region, including the aircraft carrier George Bush, to monitor the Russian ship. Being in the Mediterranean, “Krasnodar” went through Libya, and some time later struck at jihadists in the Syrian Palmyra, ”reminds the publication.

At the same time, the boat was able to avoid detection by tracking devices, which caused concern to NATO. The leadership of the alliance considered that Putin could use this against Europe.

In addition, the author notes, “fears are growing that Moscow may sell such ships to the Iranian dictatorship” and that Vlad (Vladimir Putin) “will develop the atomic version” of this diesel submarine.

“All this would lead to the fact that the activity of submarines would return to levels characteristic of the times of the Cold War,” concludes the newspaper.
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  1. reservist
    reservist 25 October 2017 15: 56 New
    21
    She, too, can silently cross the Atlantic Ocean and suddenly strike at the United States.
    Does that bother them?
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 25 October 2017 16: 03 New
      33
      All this would lead to the fact that the activity of submarines would return to levels characteristic of the times of the Cold War. "

      And I bury you in a blanket not to wrap? fellow These hollowers are satisfied only that our boats would rot at the piers without going to sea. repeat do not wait.
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 25 October 2017 16: 05 New
        10
        "The leadership of the alliance has decided that Putin can use it against Europe." At NATO facilities in Geyrop. This is for clarification. A little fell into NATO. And they did it right.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 25 October 2017 17: 56 New
          +8
          the alliance has deployed in the region anti-submarine ships, including aircraft carrier "George Bush"

          When did the aircraft carrier become an anti-submarine ship? request
          1. zivXP
            zivXP 25 October 2017 18: 47 New
            +9
            There is based aircraft for this business
          2. Burbon
            Burbon 25 October 2017 19: 27 New
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir16
            When did the aircraft carrier become an anti-submarine ship?

            effectively, only aviation can fight a submarine ..... especially anti-submarine .... or do you think this aircraft carrier is just an attack weapon for missiles?
        2. Antianglosax
          Antianglosax 26 October 2017 10: 03 New
          +4
          It hurts fatly to send such boats to the geyropu, and to the geyropu we will roll it into dust, if that. But on omerzikos - the very thing!
      2. Svarog51
        Svarog51 25 October 2017 18: 55 New
        10
        Vlad (Vladimir Putin) will “develop the atomic version” of this diesel submarine.

        good Volodya, well, what will be the striped answer?
    2. Burbon
      Burbon 25 October 2017 16: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: reservist
      She, too, can silently cross the Atlantic Ocean and suddenly strike at the United States.

      fool fool ...... well, yes, well, yes ..... thinking this is not necessary! ..... glanced U-raa !! fool
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 25 October 2017 19: 00 New
        +9
        Dmitriy hi Here I look at the avatar, well, "piranha", and I read koment, well .... add it yourself. Why such paisimism?
        1. Burbon
          Burbon 25 October 2017 19: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: Svarog51
          Why such paisimism?

          erroneous conclusion, I really do not like those who write nonsense for the rating ...... and knowing the materiel is not necessary for them .....
          Quote: Svarog51
          Here I look at the avatar, well, "piranha",

          Well, I’m probably far from piranha, but I’ve been diving and catching with the experience of hoo ... now skiing has become my strong passion ...
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 25 October 2017 20: 13 New
            +9
            Well, I’m probably far from piranhas, but I'm a diving and catch with the experience of hoo
            Well, I don’t pretend to laurels, since I write nonsense for the rating, so why? I know piranha on the site, but the views on reality are completely opposite. How can this be?
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 25 October 2017 21: 10 New
              +2
              Hello, Sergey! If during the Second World War and the Caribbean crisis, diesel-electric missiles reached the American continent across the Atlantic, then I think Varshavyanka is capable of it now. And if you put at least one floating supply point on the route, then 100% will get. And from the Far East, it’s not at all a problem for Varshavyanka.
              It is time to appear domestic, air-independent forces. installation. That will be the case. Six more for each fleet, and let the Pentagon break their brains where to look for them. hi
              And in vain the States launched this topic. Now it’s kind of looking at the Swedish.
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 25 October 2017 21: 27 New
                10
                Dauren, good to see you, welcome hi Of course you're right, times have changed and opportunities too. Totally agree with you. Well, if half a century ago, our submariners could complete the task, now with the proper preparation of the operation they will cope even more. I understand little in the technology of non-volatile power plants, but if they do, it will be of help to our submarine forces. It seems that the Germans have made good progress in this direction, but I immediately repent, I am an ignoramus in this matter. Let experts say better. That's what they are on the site, I am absolutely sure. We will listen. good drinks
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 25 October 2017 23: 41 New
                  +2
                  The Swedes, Sergei, are already mass-produced. In exercises at the beginning of the century, they drove all NATO by the nose. Then everyone understood how dangerous such submarines are. They can walk for three weeks underwater without surfacing ... Stirling engine. The Japanese went this way.
                  Germany and the Russian Federation took a different path, but the results are not entirely clear. The project "Kalina". Electrochemical generator.
                  The French went the third way. Closed loop using liquid oxygen and ethanol. French like to do engines on alcohol! laughing Apparently they cannot fight without this. laughing
                  The states seemed to want to rent submarines from the Swedes - apparently to study methods of dealing with them. But how things went further, I don’t know. drinks
                  Until next time!
                  1. Izotovp
                    Izotovp 26 October 2017 08: 38 New
                    +1
                    About a year ago, the Japanese announced that they would build a completely rechargeable, without any engines, boat.
              2. freddyk
                freddyk 26 October 2017 00: 17 New
                +2
                So you have to not just get there, but get secretly, otherwise what’s the point. For such transitions, nuclear-powered ships are needed, although there is worse noise there.
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 26 October 2017 00: 41 New
                  +2
                  So the Germans also developed and tested everything (after all, they saw the lights of Manhattan at the periscopes, with Caliber to come so close I see no reason). Surfacing at night (on diesels and recharging batteries), and during the day under water. You can cross the “platform” at night (it can be any bulk carrier). And in order to strike with Caliber, one does not need to approach the coast itself, especially with a special warhead.
                  By the way, North Korea has just such a tactic. They have only diesel-electric submarines in service.
                  Therefore, I do not see problems with the use of Varshavyanka on this theater. Four is enough to carry out such an attack in order to inflict irreparable damage to the enemy. After, you can get up and finish off with torpedoes with a special unit. hi
                  1. freddyk
                    freddyk 26 October 2017 17: 13 New
                    0
                    With all due respect. The Germans in the 40s of the last century. And now, in the 21st ascent of the boat, it is almost tantamount to detecting it, at least during maintenance of the database. In peacetime, of course, you can slip through. But we do not consider a preemptive strike. And in general, IMHO, we have so few of them that I think Americans are tracking each of our boats, so no, ascent is not an option, even at night, even in winter))
                    1. Kasym
                      Kasym 26 October 2017 21: 27 New
                      +1
                      Dear colleague, in the article for Krasnodar they write clearly that they were waiting, but they could not find it. They deployed a whole AUG, but where are the results? ... In the last years of the USSR, our Navy conducted exercises when several nuclear submarines (not diesel-electric submarines) simply disappeared for the enemy - I don’t think that NATO had more opportunities ... Or when a submarine surfaced in the middle of an enemy ship warrant during exercises and asked for help with the hospitalization of the patient ...
                      When it’s on diesels, how is DEPL different from ordinary ships? And if you climb under a cargo ship or go near at night? hi
                      1. freddyk
                        freddyk 27 October 2017 20: 25 New
                        0
                        You are saying everything correctly, but we are still talking about the underwater situation. There, yes, a lot of tricks. In the surface position, with modern tracking systems, the boat is almost doomed. For the seas, the underwater reserve is enough for our diesels. For the oceans, no. By the way, during the Caribbean crisis, Dad said, they were on diesel engines all the way and they were constantly driven by NATO.
                        PS I do not pretend to the truth, just my opinion. All the best.
    3. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 25 October 2017 16: 06 New
      +7
      let’s hope that the Americans express their concern as well. Our Foreign Ministry is not always concerned.
    4. Partyzan
      Partyzan 25 October 2017 16: 07 New
      +7
      they themselves can’t find, here they were looking for ours laughing
      the British submarine Ambush, which participated in the exercises, could not disperse with a civilian merchant ship, colliding with it. Last year, another British nuclear submarine suffered severe external damage. And this became known when the HMS Talent submarine returned to the port in March with a large dent in the upper part of the wheelhouse and went out of service for several months. Its repair cost about 750 thousand dollars.
      1. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 25 October 2017 17: 38 New
        +8
        Guys! Salute to everyone !!!!
        Vlad (Vladimir Putin) “will develop the atomic version”

        You look, GDP was compared with Dracula - "Vlad" !!!! Diarrhea in the striped ........ wassat
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 25 October 2017 18: 31 New
          14
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          "Vlad" !!!! Diarrhea in striped .......

          pepper is so clear - if he mocks them
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 25 October 2017 19: 05 New
            +8
            Colleagues, I greet you friends hi Well, not every Vlad is like in the picture. There are also very good ones. wink And I think there are more good ones, at least I hope so. good drinks
    5. Herculesic
      Herculesic 25 October 2017 16: 10 New
      +7
      Reservist hi USA consider that it is impossible to cross the ocean without their permission, therefore they sleep peacefully, because it was decided not to give permission to our boats! lol
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 25 October 2017 16: 22 New
        +6
        Quote: Herkulesich
        USA consider that it is impossible to cross the ocean without their permission, therefore they sleep peacefully, because it was decided not to give permission to our boats!

        History does not teach anything. No one gave German visas to Soviet tankers!
    6. vkl.47
      vkl.47 25 October 2017 16: 50 New
      11
      Are they fuckers? Vlad and Vladimir are different names. Just like John and Jonathan
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 25 October 2017 17: 37 New
        +6
        Yes, they are debility, but that does not stop them from continuing to remain debility. laughing
      2. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 25 October 2017 17: 40 New
        +5
        Not .... here subtly ... an analogy with Dracula was made ....
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 25 October 2017 19: 10 New
          10
          Kostya, welcome hi It was they who thickly threw off their responsibility on the shoulders of others. They have such an installation. wink And we will think about it. good
    7. Orionvit
      Orionvit 25 October 2017 17: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: reservist
      She, too, can silently cross the Atlantic Ocean and suddenly strike at the United States.

      Can cross, but has no right. lol It bothers them.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 25 October 2017 18: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir16
        the alliance has deployed in the region anti-submarine ships, including aircraft carrier "George Bush"

        When did the aircraft carrier become an anti-submarine ship? request

        as part of the carrier group, on the aircraft carrier, there are anti-submarine helicopters ... news for you?
      2. Svarog51
        Svarog51 25 October 2017 19: 17 New
        +9
        Why is it not right? Has, and in the tail and mane lol And here I agree with you
        It bothers them.
        Let the turnips are scratched as DEPL crosses the ocean and threatens them. Well, they’re not in the first, Bassoons they already had a fun life. good I’m ready to receive punishment from naval officers.
    8. Slovak
      Slovak 25 October 2017 18: 35 New
      +1
      not thought of. They are worried that Russia does not scare Europe, because it is necessary to drive and drive your equipment and weapons into the EU - enslavement should be at least somehow justified at the initial stage.
    9. Primoos
      Primoos 26 October 2017 16: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: reservist
      She, too, can silently cross the Atlantic Ocean and suddenly strike at the United States.
      Does that bother them?

      In the United States there is something to enter without these submarines. Their main task is to drown everything that stomps on the waves. To piss on a shaky deck to set foot, is not that go out to sea.
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 25 October 2017 15: 57 New
    +8
    "With this boat, it was possible to avoid detection by tracking devices, which caused alarm among NATO. The leadership of the alliance decided that Putin could use it against Europe."
    Yes, they use themselves.
    Russian submarines are regularly discovered.
    Here the Swedes even recently discovered a submarine Som.
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 25 October 2017 15: 59 New
    +6
    Slap along, and again we are to blame.
  4. Gray brother
    Gray brother 25 October 2017 16: 03 New
    16
    Vlad (Vladimir Putin) will “develop the atomic version” of this diesel submarine.

    I’ll go dig the reactor in the garden until the KGB records it. The main thing is not to forget to pour vodka to the bear - so that it is silent.
    1. AVA77
      AVA77 25 October 2017 16: 22 New
      +6
      And deuterium, by chance you don’t need? There are three three-liter cans, I can sell laughing
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 25 October 2017 17: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: AVA77
        And deuterium, by chance you don’t need? There are three three-liter cans, I can sell

        No, not yet - no season already. With it, cucumbers roll up well.
      2. jjj
        jjj 25 October 2017 17: 04 New
        +1
        Deuterium is already there. Suggest tritium
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 25 October 2017 17: 41 New
      +6
      And I have a bear, except moonshine, drinks nothing, I still have to share the last hedgehogs with him ... not to starve him.
      1. Vasya Vassin
        Vasya Vassin 25 October 2017 18: 17 New
        +1
        I feel sorry for you, the worst is even worse.
    3. Grits
      Grits 25 October 2017 17: 55 New
      +3
      I’ll go dig the reactor in the garden until the KGB records it. The main thing is not to forget to pour vodka to the bear - so that it is silent.
      And do not forget to kick off the balalaika when washing the acquired barge. Which will have to be dragged by a trailer behind a submarine with a reactor installed, which you dug in the garden. Since only Europeans in their inflamed brain can stick this reactor into Varshavyanka
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 25 October 2017 18: 25 New
        +2
        As for the barge with the reactor ... The barge is not a barge, but there was a similar project. The famous eggs of Dollezhal. A compact nuclear reactor without PPU, which the boat was supposed to tow for itself at a distance of several hundred meters.
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 25 October 2017 16: 06 New
    +6
    Fear, fear the heart. The more you fear, the better for us.
  6. vlad007
    vlad007 25 October 2017 16: 07 New
    +6
    They have the F-35 invisibility, and we have the Krasnodar invisibility. Parity is obtained. Fine!
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 25 October 2017 17: 16 New
      +1
      Only they have an invisibility in words, but in Russia in practice. lol
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 25 October 2017 16: 08 New
    +2
    It is necessary then more often to send our submarines there - let Europe have the nightmares more often torment!
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 25 October 2017 17: 43 New
      +1
      And let them dpi shy away from the thought ...: ".. and suddenly, at that very moment, the Russians are coming under the Channel in the English Channel?" .. and after these words everyone has terrible diarrhea ....
  8. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 25 October 2017 16: 08 New
    +2
    Iran will not sell any submarines to Iran, for sanctions on the export of offensive weapons have not yet been lifted
    1. aleks26
      aleks26 25 October 2017 16: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      Iran will not sell any submarines to Iran, for sanctions on the export of offensive weapons have not yet been lifted

      And we will sell defensive submarines laughing
  9. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 25 October 2017 16: 10 New
    +8
    Our new submarines live up to their name "Black Hole" .... for fear of the Americans, for pride in us:
    Krasnodar - a diesel-electric submarine of project 636.3 Varshavyanka. Designed to combat enemy submarines and ships, for the defense of naval bases, coastal and sea communications, reconnaissance and patrol activities on enemy communications. "
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya 25 October 2017 16: 11 New
    10
    Know our ...
  11. Zubr
    Zubr 25 October 2017 16: 13 New
    15
    Just think about it, a whole group of anti-submarine ships, already led by a nuclear aircraft carrier, "tried" to track! This is in fact the work of the AUG was focused on finding just one of our submarines! This means that a conditional adversary is conditionally insignificant. Plus, the real combat mission posed to the crew was completed. This is the title of the hero of Russia to the boat commander and crew awards, with a bonus !!! good soldier
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 25 October 2017 16: 19 New
      +2
      They met the boat and led to Tartus ... so that it is very far from the conditional destruction of the AUG. laughing
      1. Zubr
        Zubr 25 October 2017 16: 26 New
        +6
        Well, it's still nice, such forces and with such attention, it was just flattered ... smile
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 25 October 2017 16: 42 New
          +1
          There was an interview with the wing commander from an aircraft carrier .... they worked out new equipment for detecting submarines, they used our submarines as training .... I realized from the interview that our submarine tried to shake off the fleas, but they were constantly on the tail. ..only entering Tartus - the pursuers are behind
          1. Zubr
            Zubr 25 October 2017 17: 05 New
            +5
            Well, the incident with “Donald Cook," obviously does not go into comparison. There is ours alone, and here a gang of anglers against our one boat, but what if there were three? Can you imagine one distracting, scouring noises, and two in a quiet backwater, watching how they scouring there? I think so, it was. It’s not for nothing that it is JUZZLE .... smile
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 25 October 2017 21: 01 New
              +1
              There are still three of our nuclear submarines, and there were a dozen special-purpose swimmers! laughing
          2. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 25 October 2017 18: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Nasr
            I understood from an interview for myself

            Nude - Nude ...
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 25 October 2017 17: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: Nasr
        They met the boat and led to Tartus ... so that it is very far from the conditional destruction of the AUG. laughing

        Your comment does not match the article text.
        At the same time, the boat managed to avoid detection by tracking devices, which caused alarm among NATO.
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 25 October 2017 19: 44 New
          +9
          Glory, welcome hi
          Your comment does not match the article text.

          Well, not everyone has RAM. request
        2. Nasrat
          Nasrat 25 October 2017 20: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: sabakina
          Quote: Nasr
          They met the boat and led to Tartus ... so that it is very far from the conditional destruction of the AUG. laughing

          Your comment does not match the article text.
          At the same time, the boat managed to avoid detection by tracking devices, which caused alarm among NATO.

          then keep throwing bonnets ..... wassat
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 25 October 2017 21: 41 New
            +9
            I understand that the name in the profile does not correspond to the truth, well, yes I’m not talking about that. I read the life path there in the profile and as if I looked in the mirror, only take three years from the date. Now to the point
            then keep throwing bonnets ....
            this is certainly not an option. Share, if not difficult,
            they sat constantly on the tail ... only going into Tartus - the pursuers were behind
            Based on what infa? I ask without any catch, out of sheer interest. hi
  12. salad
    salad 25 October 2017 16: 34 New
    +5
    Putin warned NATO about the passage of the submarine
    The funny thing is that they were warned and changed the route, and these boobies looked for her and naturally did not find))))))))))
    they can be trolled in this way not childishly laughing
    Just my opinion laughing
    1. aleks26
      aleks26 25 October 2017 16: 52 New
      +7
      Quote: salat
      The funny thing is that they were warned and changed the route, and these boobies looked for her and naturally did not find))))))))))

      You can just warn about the passage p / l. And then, after a week, shrug and say something like that, she lingered / broke / changed her mind / went for a walk on her birthday, but you never know what. Let’s look, train. laughing
    2. XXXIII
      XXXIII 25 October 2017 17: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: salat
      they can be trolled in this way not childishly
      lol
      The invisible fleet of the Russian Federation exceeds all possible NATO calculations ...... laughing
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 25 October 2017 21: 44 New
        10
        Vladimir, welcome hi Well, they can contain stealth aircraft, the asymmetric response from Russia is stealth submarine. Let them think. laughing
  13. Eurodav
    Eurodav 25 October 2017 16: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: reservist
    She, too, can silently cross the Atlantic Ocean and suddenly strike at the United States.
    Does that bother them?

    They urinate from this, and they scare Europe so that everything happens there, away from them ...
  14. Eurodav
    Eurodav 25 October 2017 16: 41 New
    +4
    Quote: Nasr
    They met the boat and led to Tartus ... so that it is very far from the conditional destruction of the AUG. laughing

    "... With this boat, it was possible to avoid detection by tracking devices, which caused alarm among NATO ..."
    Where did they lead that? What are you talking about? The conditional destruction of the AUG is ... It’s even after the warning, so slap it ...
    1. jjj
      jjj 25 October 2017 17: 08 New
      +1
      Conventional ammunition boats Ave. 636 will not be able to inflict damage to the ACG. The torpedo will be immediately detected and destroyed. Missile ammunition is also not enough to break through air defense. But if the ammunition will be with SBN, then yes
  15. Eurodav
    Eurodav 25 October 2017 16: 44 New
    +6
    Damn, they were warned, they rushed to meet and drove by ... passed by ... And in this they saw a threat to Europe !!! Europe should see this as the inability of mattresses to solve a combat task!
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 25 October 2017 21: 46 New
      +8
      they rushed to meet and passed ... hali past ..
      Masterpiece good
  16. Eurodav
    Eurodav 25 October 2017 16: 46 New
    +2
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    Iran will not sell any submarines to Iran, for sanctions on the export of offensive weapons have not yet been lifted

    And it would be necessary!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 25 October 2017 18: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Evrodav
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      Iran will not sell any submarines to Iran, for sanctions on the export of offensive weapons have not yet been lifted

      And it would be necessary!

      Yes. It would be necessary. So that later, at the next change of power (as in 1979), American specialists would be brought to them.
  17. kuznec
    kuznec 25 October 2017 16: 48 New
    +6
    Vlad (Vladimir Putin) will “develop the atomic version” of this diesel submarine.

    Insanity grew stronger, the trees bent ... The atomic version of a diesel submarine ... Paragraph.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 25 October 2017 17: 47 New
      +1
      So this is a special sensation for knocking out additional dough for the fight against Russia.
  18. kuznec
    kuznec 25 October 2017 16: 49 New
    +4
    Vlad (Vladimir Putin) will “develop the atomic version” of this diesel submarine.

    Insanity grew stronger, the trees bent ... The atomic version of a diesel submarine ... Paragraph.
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 25 October 2017 21: 50 New
      +8
      Michael hi Shhh! Do not focus on the question, let them think that this is possible. wink Star Wars, we will not forgive them. lol drinks
  19. Pavel Luchenok
    Pavel Luchenok 25 October 2017 17: 15 New
    +2
    Oh, and they like to delight in empty bragging: yes, we are all stronger, but everyone is afraid of us ...
    1. Ustin Umarov
      Ustin Umarov 25 October 2017 18: 26 New
      +1
      from which boiler, padlik?
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 25 October 2017 18: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Pavel Luchenok
      Oh, and they like to delight in empty bragging: yes, we are all stronger, but everyone is afraid of us ...

      It’s self-critical, of course, but no one has long had any illusions about you - the yellow-black racket. request
    3. kuznec
      kuznec 25 October 2017 18: 56 New
      +3
      Pasha, everyone is afraid of you ... You’ve protected the Europa ...)) And our brothers and laughter, and sin ...))
  20. Dezinto
    Dezinto 25 October 2017 17: 17 New
    +1
    What just does not bother NATO. A seagull flying in the sky is possible from Russia. Does it bother you too? you should see a doctor.
    1. Vovanfalcon
      Vovanfalcon 25 October 2017 17: 28 New
      +1
      Ha ... seagull. Sparrows are more worried, so arrogant)))))) lol
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  21. Starper-m
    Starper-m 25 October 2017 17: 18 New
    +2
    In addition, the author notes, “there is growing concern that Moscow may sell such ships to the Iranian dictatorship”

    And for one DPRK ...! One at a time to test the reaction ..
  22. gromoboj
    gromoboj 25 October 2017 17: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: salat
    Putin warned NATO about the passage of the submarine
    The funny thing is that they were warned and changed the route, and these boobies looked for her and naturally did not find))))))))))
    they can be trolled in this way not childishly laughing
    Just my opinion laughing

    It is possible differently. Say that 2 substrates will go and let one =)
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 25 October 2017 19: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: gromoboj
      Quote: salat
      Putin warned NATO about the passage of the submarine
      The funny thing is that they were warned and changed the route, and these boobies looked for her and naturally did not find))))))))))
      they can be trolled in this way not childishly laughing
      Just my opinion laughing

      It is possible differently. Say that 2 substrates will go and let one =)

      Yes, by analogy with this lol
  23. gromoboj
    gromoboj 25 October 2017 17: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: kuznec
    Vlad (Vladimir Putin) will “develop the atomic version” of this diesel submarine.

    Insanity grew stronger, the trees bent ... The atomic version of a diesel submarine ... Paragraph.

    The idiots like it. They believe about the DEPL trip across the ocean.
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 25 October 2017 19: 55 New
      +8
      And what submarines worked during the Caribbean crisis? Read Before You Speak http://www.sever-journal.ru/vyshedshie-nomera/new
      -issueyear / 05-06 / neizvestnoe-ob-izvestnom / karibsk
      ij-krizis-i-severnyj-flot /
      1. Veteran
        Veteran 26 October 2017 19: 17 New
        +4
        I welcome you, Sergey! I was late with comments, I was busy, but the topic is "underwater", so I would like to speak out, especially since you showed interest. The content of the article, of course, shows the complete profanity and incompetence of the author.
        No aircraft carrier (the state one circulates in the SM) will chase a single submarine, on the contrary, it seeks to avoid such a possible rapprochement. Of the anti-submarine assets on its board are only half-liter Sea Haw helicopters, up to 10 units, with the goal of near (up to 100 miles) its PLO. The main burden on the AUG PLO is carried by EM Burki, and all have one task - defense. The main "primary search engines" of all submarines are semi-aircraft - Poseidons, Orions, but they are all coast-based. If they feel contact with a submarine, then in parallel with the continuation of tracking it, they call and induce a search and strike group of NK, which, with the help of their half-liter helicopters and GL vehicles, seek to establish contact with their own means. After that, any carrier can hit a submarine (in wartime), and in peacetime they will “drive” a submarine, a diesel one - until it emerges due to AB landing. This is exactly what happened with our 3 DEPLs in 1962 (the Americans failed to lift only one B-4 submarine). But against these boats worked the huge potential of the ships, approx. 500 units.
        Whether the task was assigned to “Krasnodar” to pass across the Mediterranean secretly, we do not know. If so, then a diesel-electric submarine from Gibraltar to the eastern Mediterranean needs to go about 1400 miles, it will take at least 2 weeks, because under water it will "creep" at 3-x nodes, and can only sometimes move to the NP at night , approximately on 10 nodes. When the “partners” were warned, and where the submarine was at that time, we also do not know. Physically, such a secretive transition is quite possible, but much here depends on the activity and capacities of the applied PLCs, the so-called. "Partners" and experience of the commander of diesel-electric submarines.
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 27 October 2017 05: 53 New
          10
          Yuri Alekseevich hi Thank you so much for such a detailed answer. I think that not only I will be interested in the first-hand opinion of a submarine veteran. Thanks again. hi
  24. assa67
    assa67 25 October 2017 17: 44 New
    +3
    along the way, "Krasnodar" was in place much earlier than the warning of GDP .... and when a crowd of idiots rushed to catch the "Varshavyanochka", someone, somewhere even more imperceptibly followed lol
    Quote: reservist
    can cross the Atlantic Ocean silently

    and why not? strategy, however ....
  25. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 25 October 2017 17: 48 New
    0
    "All this would lead to the fact that the activity of submarines would return to levels characteristic of the times of the Cold War"

    Are you afraid that Russia will reach the level of the USSR? So do not scare us with their NATO bases and European vassals, written from fear. am
  26. rudolff
    rudolff 25 October 2017 17: 54 New
    +7
    Not long ago, there was already an article about how an aircraft carrier ran after Krasnodar. Why this nonsense to print twice? I repeat the comment:
    About the "hail" of rockets.
    May. “From the water area in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea, the Admiral Essen frigate and the Krasnodar submarine of the Russian Navy launched four Caliber cruise missiles at ISIS terrorist group targets in the Palmyra region. This was reported to the Russian Defense Ministry.” Four rockets paired with Essen.
    June. "The ships Admiral Essen, Admiral Grigorovich and the Krasnodar submarine of the Russian Navy launched six Caliber cruise missiles at the Islamic State facilities in Syria. RIA Novosti reports with reference to the Russian Defense Ministry." We figured out six missiles for three.
    About the hide and seek. "The command of the United States, Turkey and Israel were informed in a timely manner about the launch of cruise missiles through existing channels of interaction." In addition, the boat surfaced in the surface before and after launches. There was no hide and seek. Even recharging the battery performed in the surface. And the aircraft carrier did not run after her. Not a single admiral in his right mind would lead the AUG into the zone of the possible finding of a non-friendly submarine. Even in peacetime. At most, one or two ships could be detached from the group to organize the long-range boundary of the PLO.
    In short, bullshit is everything.
    1. Popovich
      Popovich 25 October 2017 22: 08 New
      0
      the question is not what was warned and she surfaced there, but how did she get there?
      As at the time, "Kursk" came from Severomorsk to Yugoslavia ...
      How to go unnoticed at the right time, in the right place!
  27. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 25 October 2017 18: 01 New
    0
    The only thing I did not understand was to warn about anything in FIG Amers?
  28. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 25 October 2017 18: 18 New
    +5
    Russian submarine Krasnodar alarmed NATO
    smile
  29. gromoboj
    gromoboj 25 October 2017 18: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Starper-M
    In addition, the author notes, “there is growing concern that Moscow may sell such ships to the Iranian dictatorship”

    And for one DPRK ...! One at a time to test the reaction ..

    North Korea has 74 of them. Iran has 14.
  30. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 25 October 2017 18: 42 New
    +1
    Abalde! Honored honor. The NATO team spoiled, although they tried to track. Conclusion: "Aggressive Russia is preparing an attack on Europe." So, no matter how we “bend”, we will remain guilty anyway. Well, how to communicate and work with such a contingent, I can’t imagine!
  31. APASUS
    APASUS 25 October 2017 19: 59 New
    +3
    I’ll probably say another banality, but it seems we are on the right track? Too sugary statements of the West came to us sideways ............
  32. notingem
    notingem 25 October 2017 20: 18 New
    +2
    You see a submarine. No. Me neither. And she is
  33. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 25 October 2017 21: 15 New
    +1
    Maybe Putin was joking ?! ))) The boat actually has long been in the waters near Syria, and Putin, as it were, warned - like going, don’t worry this is ours. Well, these NATO devils rushed to search for a sea of ​​diesel fuel and naturally didn’t find anything))) ... As they say it’s hard to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially when it’s not there ...
    Ah yes Putin))) The joke draws to the 80th level of humor))) ...
  34. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 25 October 2017 22: 34 New
    +6
    President Putin warned NATO

    personalized explosives did not warn anyone. He has nothing more to do. They informed me about the channels of the Moscow Region and there’s nothing to crucify here .. they warned them.
    Just notified.
    But how did the NATO nervous system react further - these are not our problems. Although it’s funny that they react so nervously to every movement of the Russian Federation ... Poor things ... These insidious Russians completely pulled them laughing
  35. earloop
    earloop 26 October 2017 00: 06 New
    +2
    Go, boat, go! "What" you find, swamp!
  36. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 26 October 2017 01: 38 New
    0
    Well, well, western bastards. This is not Iraq and defenseless Libya
  37. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 26 October 2017 05: 13 New
    +1
    I have an uncle, a deceased, who served as a Romanian, told how they went under the tankers to the partner shores ..
  38. Observer2014
    Observer2014 26 October 2017 08: 39 New
    +4
    “All this would lead to the fact that the activity of submarines would return to levels characteristic of the times of the Cold War,” concludes the newspaper.
    Absurd nonsense and their newspaper and their expert opinion. Cretinism is complete.
  39. Mr.fix
    Mr.fix 27 October 2017 22: 01 New
    0
    And rightly alarmed, "Domestic trains are the most train trains in the world" and quoting another classic
    - And let the channel .... :) :) :)
  40. myobius59
    myobius59 28 October 2017 23: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Popovich
    the question is not what was warned and she surfaced there, but how did she get there?
    As at the time, "Kursk" came from Severomorsk to Yugoslavia ...
    How to go unnoticed at the right time, in the right place!

    And what, did it help Yugoslavia?
    That's just how it will “help” and all this secrecy (and most likely a lot of what is desired, here is given out as reality) and modern submarines. THIS IS NOT the 70s and not the 80s !!!. With our current rulers, we are most likely to receive the cumpole in full, without any chance of an answer from us. The only thing they will do is "show concern, in relation to their PARTNERS, and FRIENDS."
    Most of the local comments are ridiculous, as if the boys from grade 5 were writing.
  41. w555
    w555 30 October 2017 11: 12 New
    0
    Now it’s clear why people from all over Russia are rushing to Krasnodar, they think that if there is a submarine “Krasnodar” then the truth is they say that there is a sea in Krasnodar!
  42. Carol
    Carol 31 October 2017 23: 36 New
    +1
    But what about the sea, and its name is Krasnodar