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Ukraine tried to "steal" the Indian contract for T-90

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Long before the break with Russia, Ukraine waged with our country a real information war in the sphere of trade. weaponssometimes even using provocations and forbidden tricks, the article says Messenger of Mordovia.


Ukraine tried to "steal" the Indian contract for T-90


“It is possible to list examples of Ukrainian“ black PR ”against our defense products for a long time, but we will mention only what happened relatively recently, a couple of years before Maidan,” writes the author of the article Lev Romanov.

In 2011, there were reports from Ukrainian sources that one instance was allegedly delivered to Kharkov tank T-90S in a desert color. The state where the tank came from was not called, but hints were made that it was India.

Russian experts began to suspect that this was a banal provocation aimed at embroiling Indians and Russians, creating an atmosphere of suspicion between them. This idea was reinforced by the Ukrainian proposals for the modernization of Indian T-2012 “Bishma”, as well as T-90, promulgated at the beginning of 72 at the military exhibition in Delhi.

The Indian army was offered "a kind of cross between the Nizhny Tagil" ninety "and Kharkov" stronghold. " So, dynamic protection "Contact-5" should have been replaced by DZ "Duplet". " The commander of the tank received a panoramic sight PNK-6 and a remote-controlled machine gun caliber 12,7 mm.

“The Russian B-92C2 engine was replaced with 6ТD-3 with the power of 1400 hp Planned installation of active protection systems and radio suppression of improvised explosive devices. The gun, the undercarriage would remain unchanged, "- says the material.

These encroachments caused a violent reaction in the Russian Federation. “The statements that“ Ukraine steals Russian tanks ”were the softest of those voices then. Military experts argued that Kharkov was simply unable to actually do something, for example 6TD-3 existed only in the form of a non-working layout. I remembered how the Ukrainian defenders tried to modernize the Algerian T-72, even held demonstrations in this country. But the local military preferred to deal with Nizhny Tagil. And they did not lose, ”the author writes.

Confidence in the inability of Kharkiv to produce competitive tanks was confirmed during the implementation of the contract with Thailand. “The political instability that had begun to fever the country paralyzed Ukrainian desires to“ take away ”the Indian armored market from Russia. Talk about the availability of T-90 in Kharkov quickly faded away. Now nobody remembers this provocation in Ukraine, ”concludes the publication.
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  1. Lavrenti Pavlovich
    Lavrenti Pavlovich 25 October 2017 13: 49 New
    +8
    What is the article about? For whom and why is it written?
    1. Sharky
      Sharky 25 October 2017 13: 53 New
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      As sworn partners would say:
      -This is a business, nothing personal.
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 25 October 2017 13: 58 New
        +5
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        What is the article about? For whom and why is it written?
        - And that’s why it’s written that we have had a fight with the Ukrainians not from the 14th year, but from the 91st. And they spoiled Russia excitedly, and now they are crying - Crimea was taken away for nothing! Abominations Bandera!
      2. volodya
        volodya 25 October 2017 14: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Sharky
        As sworn partners would say:
        -This is a business, nothing personal.

    2. Starper-m
      Starper-m 25 October 2017 17: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
      What is the article about? For whom and why is it written?

      And what’s incomprehensible, they steal gas, the industry of the military-industrial complex destroyed everything, they are engaged in fraud. Article warning that it is better not to get in touch with Ukraine .. they will KINUT and will not even turn red. And our suppliers need to be on the alert!
    3. Pereira
      Pereira 25 October 2017 19: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
      What is the article about? For whom and why is it written?


      No need to ask such questions. I asked and now I have three warnings.
  2. zivXP
    zivXP 25 October 2017 13: 51 New
    0
    Russian hoists

    This is who are you?
    1. Sharky
      Sharky 25 October 2017 13: 54 New
      +1

      Russian hoists are the coolest hoists around the world, nanotechnology, Skolkovo, a breakthrough! laughing
    2. PalBor
      PalBor 25 October 2017 15: 51 New
      +3
      Chess players laughing
  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto 25 October 2017 13: 55 New
    +4
    Soap, chalk, shit and nails. Nifiga did not understand.
  4. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 25 October 2017 14: 44 New
    +1
    Ukrainians let themselves provide something worthwhile ..... and let them forget about foreign contracts.
  5. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 25 October 2017 14: 50 New
    +2
    T-90 with an opponent is ideal for India - with this engine the crew and mechanics will always sing and dance around the tank. smile
  6. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 25 October 2017 14: 55 New
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    What would someone steal and not drink? Unreal! In the course of the bottle disappeared. But the T-90 remained.
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Soap, chalk, shit and nails. Nifiga did not understand.
  7. Egorovich
    Egorovich 25 October 2017 15: 18 New
    +6
    The face of Khokhloshtat personally. With the release of 5-10 pcs. tanks a year trying to kill the Russian contract. "Miracle Workers".
  8. venik
    venik 25 October 2017 15: 21 New
    +1
    I do not know WHO wrote this article, but "scribbler", Explicitly "off topic" !!! Bullshit - TOTAL!
    It just so happened that in “those times”, working in one of the “state structures” I had the opportunity to touch this “topic” .....
    EVERYTHING was just "with accuracy, yes, the BACK! !!! NO conflict with Russia" was "there", rather - the BACK.
    In short - Article - The complete delirium of the amateur and the pronounced desire to "catch" the roasted duck "" !!!
  9. strannik1985
    strannik1985 25 October 2017 15: 31 New
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    Quote: Alexey RA
    T-90 with an opponent is ideal for India - with this engine the crew and mechanics will always sing and dance around the tank. smile

    They will master the obscene dialect of the Russian (Ukrainian) language.
  10. Catherine II
    Catherine II 25 October 2017 16: 43 New
    0
    Contracts with India really wanted to, but it’s hardly likely tanks, for there is Pakistan, and the one who understands this a little cannot supply the same to India and Pakistan at the same time (from military tanks exactly)
    Herald of Mordovia, of course, took the original
    Long before the break with Russia, Ukraine waged a real information war with our country in the arms trade, sometimes even using provocations and prohibited methods, the article says

    Poor Russia, what kind of Ukraine there was “war” ... it is strange that they don’t write that there were mutual wars (and there is a clear advantage in Russia) in all spheres, because competitors? Ay yayay what Ukrainians are bad ..
    Before 2014, I did not read much Ukrainian, but reports about the Ukrainian technology, which I had seen constantly from the Russian Federation.
    I repeat-competitive wars of manufacturers of a similar-standard phenomenon for capitalism. To make someone bad from this, and someone in white is not worth it.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 25 October 2017 19: 09 New
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      Quote: Catherine II
      I repeat-competitive wars of manufacturers of a similar-standard phenomenon for capitalism. To make someone bad from this, and someone in white is not worth it.

      In an ideal world, it’s possible. But we live in the real world. where there is always our valiant scouts and their insidious spies.. smile
    2. andrewkor
      andrewkor 25 October 2017 19: 14 New
      0
      Ukrainian international dumping metallurgy products was for sure, and this is war.
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 25 October 2017 21: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Catherine II
      Contracts with India really wanted, but hardly tanks, because there is Pakistan,

      I do not understand, you do not know?
      On Ukrainian tanks sent to Pakistan, there were guns from Russia. After they arrived and directly recognized the absence of gun barrels in Ukraine, as much as a whole delegation
      1. Catherine II
        Catherine II 25 October 2017 22: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: APASUS
        On Ukrainian tanks sent to Pakistan, there were guns from Russia

        As far as I remember, the RF refused to supply the rivals with weapons.
        even Russian bloggers insist on Soviet trunks in packs, but not Russian ones.
        I do not intend to plant a tanker ax, one compatriot has already suffered for it.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 25 October 2017 22: 09 New
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          Quote: Catherine II
          I do not intend to plant a tanker ax, one compatriot has already suffered for it.

          Just name the modern type of guns for the tank, made by Ukraine and all
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 26 October 2017 15: 18 New
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            Quote: APASUS
            Just name the modern type of guns for the tank, made by Ukraine and all

            There is one subtle point: the lack of production of tank guns in Ukraine does not mean at all that Russia supplies the guns for the new Ukrainian tanks. So far, Ukraine has enough reserves inherited from the USSR.
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 26 October 2017 16: 57 New
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              Quote: Alexey RA
              There is one subtle point: the lack of production of tank guns in Ukraine does not mean at all that Russia supplies the guns for the new Ukrainian tanks. So far, Ukraine has enough reserves inherited from the USSR.

              Yes, we are aware of this idea of ​​producing sweets from manure, a long tradition! For this reason, the tools of Ukrainian tanks, including the latest BM Oplot, still have a "Soviet" 125 mm caliber. They are engaged in remaking old stuff. Own production of key mechanical parts for guns - barrels - in Ukraine does not exist.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 26 October 2017 17: 01 New
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                Quote: APASUS
                Own production of a key mechanical part for guns - barrels - does not exist in Ukraine.

                Production exists, and it has been repeatedly organized. That's just the result trunks and a half BK. smile
                The result is nothing, the process is everything!

                In Ukraine, 30 mm guns were copied. The result was another scandal with Iraqi armored personnel carriers, when it turned out that the working Soviet gun was on the demonstration model, and the crafts of the Ukrainian "Precision Mechanics Plant", which are best characterized by a quote from Ilf and Petrov, were mounted on a production vehicle delivered to Iraq:
                ... in the next binge period, he arranged a stationary engine, which was very similar to the real one, but did not work.
  11. Normal ok
    Normal ok 25 October 2017 23: 28 New
    +1
    Another hohlosrach.