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Polish media about the Tu-154: Yes, it was a blast ... But the record was cut out ...

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Polish "partners" continue to publish their own versions of what happened to the presidential Tu-154 in 2010, near Smolensk. After the country's Minister of Defense, Antoni Macerevich, who regularly confused glass with a triangular one, declared a blast aboard a Polish airliner, the local media undertook to “suck up” this topic from all sides.


The Gazeta Polska edition comes out with material that the previous Polish commission allegedly, at the request of Russia, "cut out a fragment of the record with a sharp rise in temperature on board before the crash." This is a 4,5-second fragment that supposedly originally existed on the record.

It turns out that now in Poland they are doing everything to adapt the decision to their own version of the answer. Earlier Matserevich said about this:

The moment of the explosion was identified - we found it in the recording of one of the recorders. We are currently engaged in its analysis and exclusion of all other interpretations of this electronic record.


Polish media about the Tu-154: Yes, it was a blast ... But the record was cut out ...


That is, interpretations are possible, but the Polish commission is doing everything to interpret it exclusively as an “explosion sound”.

At the same time, no evidence was provided that something was cut out of the flight recorder film.

Experts say that the sudden release of heat, if at all, may be due to the fact that the pilots, at the last moment noticing an obstacle, gave an excessive load on the engines so that they could lift the plane higher. Or in Poland they still want to say that President Kaczynski was liquidated by his own brother, who did not fly with this board to Smolensk.
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 25 October 2017 12: 35
    21
    Not even Russia is to blame, but the USSR! smile
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 25 October 2017 12: 40
      +1
      Yes, it was an explosion ... an explosion of Matserevich’s brain! wassat
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 25 October 2017 12: 59
        24
        Minister of Defense Antoni Matserevich, regularly confusing glass with triangular,

        So fall aggravation. fellow
      2. Slovak
        Slovak 25 October 2017 19: 27
        +1
        Can't explode that which is not and was not
      3. vik669
        vik669 26 October 2017 15: 55
        0
        How can something that never happened explode! Solid bone.
    2. bagr69
      bagr69 25 October 2017 12: 41
      +3
      - See the gopher?
      - No...
      - And I do not see, but he is!
    3. Partyzan
      Partyzan 25 October 2017 12: 41
      11
      Quote: Thrall
      Not even Russia is to blame, but the USSR! smile

      did Stalin know what he was doing good
    4. Finches
      Finches 25 October 2017 12: 45
      17
      Nevertheless, they understand that they got drunk there like pigs and began to tax the pilots - the commander of the Polish Air Force wanted to show off to the president that he was a cool asscc and that was just showing off ... And in Poland, smart people understand this very well, but to admit the truth, it’s the image-bearing losses of the already miserable state, and here also the eternal enemies, the Russians, can be spoiled ... If these clowns were smashed somewhere in Virginia, the Poles would now pay reparations with the whole herd for breaking the tree ... laughing
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 25 October 2017 14: 03
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Everyone understands that they got drunk there

        On this occasion, there is evidence of the examination. It was reported about them that they don’t like to talk badly about the dead. But in extreme cases, you can publish these data.
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 26 October 2017 04: 30
        +6
        Quote: Finches
        ... And in Poland, smart people understand this very well. laughing

        And you know a colleague, I already doubt it - the brainwashing machine works perfectly. A year ago in Gdansk, I talked with the Poles and there really was an understanding: you can’t fly below the minimum without the visibility of the earth, this is harmful. And a couple of weeks ago I crossed paths with a Polish young pilot, and he began to tell me with a clear eye how the whole world is fooling Russia. The main argument is that they manipulated the records and did not give them more. He asked what he knew about the investigation: the Russian Federation suspended Poland, fed processed information and other nonsense. So I doubt very much the ability, and most importantly the desire, of the Poles to resist Amer’s propaganda
      3. magosvel
        magosvel 26 October 2017 16: 07
        +1
        Apples were being eaten. )))
      4. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 26 October 2017 21: 43
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        And in Poland, smart people understand this very well.

        what what where are they, show them ??? !!! After all, today's debiloid leadership of Poland came to power with the filing of the Polish people !!! fool fool wassat wassat tongue tongue good good laughing laughing laughing
    5. LSA57
      LSA57 25 October 2017 13: 01
      +9
      Quote: Thrall
      Not even Russia is to blame, but the USSR!

      and I don’t exclude that the children of Susanin planted this birch
    6. ser-pov
      ser-pov 25 October 2017 16: 28
      +2
      C'mon, and so it is clear that TU was hit by a flying saucer with red stars on the sides and then dumped in the direction of Aldebaran .... laughing
      1. Slovak
        Slovak 25 October 2017 19: 28
        +2
        But Putin personally controlled the plate ...
  2. novel66
    novel66 25 October 2017 12: 37
    +6
    stubbornness with stupidity - a terrible force! laughing
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 25 October 2017 12: 43
      +2
      Quote: novel xnumx
      with the fact that the pilots, at the last moment noticing an obstacle, gave an excessive load on the engines,

      Well, here the author is stupid enough, or whoever has his opinion stolen there ...
      maybe due to the fact that the pilots, at the last moment noticing an obstacle, gave an excessive load on the engines,
      This fact on the means of objective control would be visible clearly and without any "maybe" and other interpretations, here it’s not worthwhile to stupid and this fact cannot be cut out from all JUICE ... request
      1. novel66
        novel66 25 October 2017 12: 46
        +5
        uh ... here you already need to know! and even if the pilots pulled the ores at the "last moment" so it led to an increase in temperature on the ground
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 25 October 2017 12: 48
          +2
          The temperature rises at the same time as the speed, but in the physical principle it’s slightly faster than the speed because the speed rises after the fuel burns ... request
          1. novel66
            novel66 25 October 2017 12: 49
            +5
            I'm afraid the birch is ahead of the reaction time ....
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN 25 October 2017 12: 52
              +2
              I already forgot this hour, I analyzed the film tactically, in my opinion they pulled the turns almost at the moment of the collision, and so they went in the mode, if it were not for belittling the area in front of the neighbor (and they controlled the radio altimeter), it might have cost ... request
              1. novel66
                novel66 25 October 2017 12: 55
                +3
                and entered the height, I don’t remember the name, depends on the pressure? there may also not be enough height
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN 25 October 2017 13: 03
                  +2
                  They entered the airdrome pressure, as it should, entered the Pravak on the altimeter, the left (aircraft commander) from memory seemed to be standard 760mm. , but they were decreasing by the radio altimeter, and that relief measures and before the near drive there was a decrease of seven tens of meters, here they are at the middle drive at a height of 0 and flew out ...
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 25 October 2017 13: 05
                    +3
                    well, then no one is to blame request
                    1. NIKNN
                      NIKNN 25 October 2017 13: 11
                      +3
                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      well, then no one is to blame request

                      From the IAC investigation
                      b. The first TAWS warning of the PULL UP type was 18 seconds before a collision with an obstacle leading to the beginning of the destruction of the aircraft structure. Prior to this, messages of the TERRAIN AHEAD type (FORWARD EARTH) were formed twice.
                      c. The first collision of an airplane with an obstacle occurred at a distance of about 1100 meters from the runway, to the left of the approach course about 40 meters. Given the terrain (ravine) and the height of the tree, the flight altitude of the aircraft was below the level of the end of the strip 15 meters.
                      d. The third collision by the left wing, which led to the beginning of the destruction of the aircraft structure, with a birch with a trunk diameter of 30-40 cm occurred at a distance of 260 meters from the point of first contact, to the left of the extended axis of the strip 80 meters.
                      e. The time elapsed from the beginning of the destruction of the aircraft structure to the complete destruction of the aircraft fuselage structure due to a collision with the ground in an inverted position was about 5-6 seconds. The final destruction of the aircraft structure occurred at 10 hours 41 minutes 06 seconds.
                      http://mak-iac.org/rassledovaniya/tu-154m-n101-10
                      -04-2010
                  2. WUA 518
                    WUA 518 25 October 2017 13: 17
                    +2
                    Quote: NIKNN
                    here they are on the middle drive at a height of 0 and flew out ...

              2. WUA 518
                WUA 518 25 October 2017 13: 13
                +2
                Quote: NIKNN
                almost at the time of the collision,

                Greetings pulled the ores 5 seconds before the collision.
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN 25 October 2017 13: 24
                  +2
                  Quote: WUA 518
                  Greetings pulled the ores 5 seconds before the collision.

                  Hi! hi Yes, I read the IAC report this hour ..http: //mak-iac.org/upload/iblock/807/finalre
                  port_rus.pdf
            2. urman
              urman 25 October 2017 12: 57
              +2
              And so they and Nata gathered to fight against us! Yes, we even have fighting birches laughing By the way, that week I planted three pieces on the facade.
              1. novel66
                novel66 25 October 2017 12: 59
                +5
                until they grow up ... what if tomorrow is war?
                1. urman
                  urman 25 October 2017 13: 13
                  +3
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  and if tomorrow is war?

                  I agree a bit late, well, I will fertilize them with water, and there you look, they will help grandchildren.
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 25 October 2017 13: 16
                    +3
                    I would like my grandchildren to live in some other world without fear ... but still - prudently! hi
                2. Vlad.by
                  Vlad.by 25 October 2017 13: 26
                  +1
                  These calculations are good of course, but the Polish insanity is talking about a sharp increase in temperature in the cabin. As I understand it, this is possible only with a sharp, involuntary emission of gases while realizing the inevitability ... This, incidentally, is quite similar to an explosion in the cabin.
                  In vain the Poles insist so - then it will be very inconvenient to chatter this truth.
                  GDP is right as always - do you even understand what you’ve done ??? !!!
  3. urman
    urman 25 October 2017 12: 40
    +1
    I do not understand? Psheks what they want to say that we shot down their eroplan?
    If the explosion was inside, let them look in their viper. After all, they flew here from there and not vice versa.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 25 October 2017 12: 44
      +3
      No, they still can’t decide what they want in the end.
  4. AID.S
    AID.S 25 October 2017 12: 44
    0
    the previous Polish commission, allegedly at the request of Russia, "cut out a fragment of the record with a sharp increase in temperature on board before the crash." This is a 4,5-second fragment that supposedly originally existed on the record.

    There was a song "Oh god, what a man!" performed by passengers.
  5. Strashila
    Strashila 25 October 2017 12: 51
    +3
    One can make an assumption ... that someone farted ... it was taken as a record of the explosion.
  6. HAM
    HAM 25 October 2017 12: 57
    +1
    It appears that it was a showdown in the Kachinsky’s house; the recorder confirmed this.
  7. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 25 October 2017 13: 06
    +1
    Who in the world is interested in what the next "commission" of psheks says? We need facts ... But they are not, and the value of the conclusions of these "commissions" is equal to the value of the conversations of the grandmothers on the benches.
  8. Egorovich
    Egorovich 25 October 2017 13: 06
    +6
    The idiocy of psheks goes through the roof in full.
  9. Ren
    Ren 25 October 2017 13: 16
    +2
    Our mass media (the yellow press) need to start promoting the topic that Yaroslav Kaczynski, who ordered the liquidation of his brother and the entire ruling elite at that time, with the goal of usurping power, was involved in this. fellow
    He realized his criminal act by laying an explosive device in an airplane.
    The Investigative Committee needs to clarify that for committing a terrorist attack on the territory of the Russian Federation he and his accomplices will be sought through Interpol. wassat
  10. Severomor
    Severomor 25 October 2017 13: 26
    +1
    Autumn has come. Belarusians dig potatoes, bank raguli, and Poles Kaczynski
  11. Des10
    Des10 25 October 2017 13: 35
    +1
    An article from the editorial board of VO (if it exists, of course smile ), as always anonymous.
    Well, it’s like in the studio - according to Raikin --- there are no complaints about buttons!
    Another question - and cut out (or?) A piece of the record --- why !?
    There is no answer in the article --- well, you don’t need the type of analyst, eat what is served.
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 25 October 2017 14: 19
      +1
      Quote: Des10
      There is no answer in the article --- well, you don’t need the type of analyst, eat what is served.

      The Polish side in September 2016 made a "sensational" statement that the last seconds allegedly disappeared from the recordings on the parametric flight recorders (there were two on the Tu-154 - regular and operational Polish).

      Decoding of the second recorder took place in Poland. “It was found that recording on it stopped 2,5 seconds earlier than on standard recorders (the Polish ATM-QAR recorder was not emergency, that is, protected, therefore, after significant damage, the inaccuracy or lack of information on it is quite explainable)
  12. Sly
    Sly 25 October 2017 13: 36
    +1
    Quote: Fedya2017
    Who in the world is interested in what the next "commission" of psheks says? .

    So it is said for the psheks themselves that Russophobia does not fade away, and not for the whole world.
  13. gromoboj
    gromoboj 25 October 2017 14: 51
    0
    Quote: Finches
    eternal enemies, Russian, can be spoiled ...

    What does it change ? The plane flew here if something exploded there, but let them understand.
  14. assa67
    assa67 25 October 2017 16: 14
    +3
    "interpret solely as the sound of an explosion"
    instead of cotton champagne bottles? followed by exhaust fumes, hence the temperature rise
    it’s not hospitable for the Psheks to confirm that the commander of the Air Force who had eaten up killed the prezik of his own
  15. Disorder
    Disorder 25 October 2017 20: 00
    0
    laughing A drunk general mixed up a grenade with a bottle of champagne.
  16. Малый
    Малый 25 October 2017 20: 54
    0
    The meat (infantry) motivated grow up .... against us ... (gay) ....
  17. APASUS
    APASUS 25 October 2017 21: 59
    +1
    They cut out not the explosion itself, but the pilot’s words! He just says that the contraption is smoking and ticking .............. lol
  18. earloop
    earloop 26 October 2017 00: 50
    0
    "Partners" is the word for the name of decent people. And if the "partners" behave like Poles, then for their paniness, the word "goons" is more suitable.
  19. nikolaev
    nikolaev 26 October 2017 03: 23
    0
    It was the Big Bang. The Universe began with it.
  20. olhon
    olhon 26 October 2017 03: 36
    0
    And who planted the bomb? And when?
  21. akm8226
    akm8226 26 October 2017 22: 45
    0
    Such a simple question - the Poles say that it was a bomb. Okay. But where did she come from? After all, the board belongs to the presidential special squad and there you will not even carry an extra pencil, and not just a kilogram of tol. That is, the Poles want to say that they have their own pest in the squadron?